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As usual.....the writers know as much as we do...
by Aloy
Aug 9th, 2008
02:33:22 AM
about the storylines.
I'm so depressed too....
by theycallmemrglass
Aug 9th, 2008
02:49:48 AM
Fucking NBC literally ROBBED us and fucked up our heads by pulling a great soul searching sci fi show with so much promise. Journeyman pisses on Heroes 2nd seasons and even the first season. Fuck am I depressed.
This was a good show and will be missed
by Aloy
Aug 9th, 2008
02:53:25 AM
I hated it at first but the stories toughened up and showed promise. I guess it's too much to expect these shows to be solidly story boarded given their low life expectancy. Like Heroes and Lost you get the sense that there's a mix and match style of writing and you have to hope like hell that the writers are on their game every week and not just adding new characters to pad out the series.
Thanks for the Info
by Xiphos_2
Aug 9th, 2008
03:00:25 AM
Journeyman was a great show to bad NBC didn't have the sack to stick with it, fuckers. I hope you keep wallowing in fourth place NBC.

Moon Bloodgod was quite the piece of ass, that goes without saying, but I wanted to say it anyways.

Herc, thanks for getting the info for us Journeyman fans. It was much appreciated.

great show and cast
by ls420
Aug 9th, 2008
03:20:02 AM
I will miss it
The lack of answers in this article...
by Pops Freshemeyer
Aug 9th, 2008
03:34:50 AM
...make baby Jesus cry. I miss Moon.
Journeyman was fantastic
by TaraLivesOn
Aug 9th, 2008
03:34:54 AM
A crime it was not renewed! I looked forward to it each week, far more than a show like "Heroes". NBC pulled a FOX with this one :-(
ultimately, it would have been a big hit
by prbt
Aug 9th, 2008
03:41:19 AM
Family and friends who don't normally watch the same programmes as me, they loved it too. Stupid NBC.
I miss the Journeyman talkbacks
by IAmMrMonkey!
Aug 9th, 2008
04:45:39 AM
..almost as much as i miss the show itself. :(
Hey monkey
by Xiphos_2
Aug 9th, 2008
05:01:59 AM
Whats happening hoss? Its been a while. Those JM TB were fun I agree with you on that point.
"when we went out we were doing some of the best TV out there."
by Executor
Aug 9th, 2008
05:17:10 AM
Yes. Whole-heartedly agree. Problem is, when you started, you weren't. A pretty damn good pilot, but then the show treaded water for 4 or 5 episodes until they kicked off the overarching storylines with the FBI guy, etc.

It never really gained much momentum in the crucial early months, so when it got good (and it got very very good) no one was around to care. I feel bad it was cancelled, but I understand why.

I miss the Journeyman talkbacks too...
by Executor
Aug 9th, 2008
05:21:21 AM
...because I miss all the funny people who cry and moan and say they were ROBBED and curse NBC and say they should have stuck with it and waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhh! !!!!

Really?? Good show, but good enough to get THAT worked up over. It ain't The Wire or BSG here, folks. And (as I say in my post above) the show kinda had it coming and did itself in.

to answer bacci's question
by Bloo
Aug 9th, 2008
07:13:31 AM
I watched Heros almost every Monday night and would turn the channel after Heros, why because well frankly I was so pissed at Hero's season 2 that I wouldn't want to watch more. Good tv holds an audience, again citing my own experience after watching Chuck I'd watch Heros, after watching Heros (an hoping each week that it would get better) I'd turn it off and not watch Journayman. I blame Journayman's lack of an audience on Heros, that and the way it was marketed made it look like a Quantam Leap rip off, by the time I believed enough people that Journayman was good I was too far removed to get into it (that would have been around episode 8 or 9)
Would Dan have gone back in time and
by snowpuff
Aug 9th, 2008
07:32:34 AM
made sure Jeff Zucker never got that job as an Olympics intern at NBC?
Would liked to have asked Falls...
by snowpuff
Aug 9th, 2008
07:34:39 AM
...why didn't SciFi pick this show up? Was there ever any discussion?
Bernie Mac just passes away
by optimus122
Aug 9th, 2008
08:23:10 AM
RIP
Why have people write scirnce-fiction...
by Smerdyakov
Aug 9th, 2008
08:42:10 AM
That know nothing about science fiction. Everything ends up as soap soap soap. And this guy had bugger-all of a plan. No wonder I dropped this after two episodes.
Curious question...
by smackfu
Aug 9th, 2008
09:22:11 AM
to the people who are always pissed off when they find out that a show's creators (lost, heroes, BSG, Journeyman) haven't pre-scripted the entire thing right to finale. Do you believe that everything on earth, from volcanos erupting and killing people right down to you losing the big game, all happens according to God's plan and has a specific mysterious reason for happening that you're just too small to see yet?
Bloo, that is the craziest and most pathetic thing I've
by smackfu
Aug 9th, 2008
09:32:24 AM
ever heard. You determine whether or not to watch the show that comes on after the show your currently watching based on how good the show is your currently watching? wtf. That is absolutely the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Call me crazy, but you know how I determine whether to watch the show that's on next? If I LIKE the show that's on next. Did I just blow your fucking mind or what? Try it out sometime, watching shows because you like them works out pretty well.
bacci40
by MrD
Aug 9th, 2008
09:38:07 AM
So you judge brilliance based on ratings?
It WAS a rip off of Quantum Leap...
by Logo Lou
Aug 9th, 2008
09:50:49 AM
Not that that's a bad thing. I didn't dig Journeyman, but feel sorry for the fans. It should have had another shot. Hell, I still miss John Doe & Brimstone.
This still pisses me off...
by br1947
Aug 9th, 2008
10:14:20 AM
Journeyman is the new Firefly. Fuck NBC and FOX
Smart Show
by Turd Furgeson
Aug 9th, 2008
10:38:48 AM
This gets cancelled after 13 episodes but Desperate Housewives is still on the air. This show was smart, treated the viewers with respect, challenged convention, and dealt with interesting subject matter. This show being cancelled is more proof that TV is getting too dumb. ABC, FOX or a cable network should really try to revive this show...
It WASN'T a rip off of Quantum Leap...
by Ayii
Aug 9th, 2008
10:42:30 AM
You think Quantum Leap invented the "time traveller has to fix something" formula? They didn't. There was a show called "Voyagers!" that aired 7 years prior to Quantum Leap and I'm sure there's probably older TV shows and literature that did the same thing. I thought Journeyman did a great take on a common sci-fi staple, time travel. I was really hoping it was coming back, too bad.
smackfu
by Bloo
Aug 9th, 2008
10:51:19 AM
if you read the entire post, I said at the end that by the time I started hearing this show wasn't bad was around episode 8, 9, out of 13, which others have said it about the part it really got good

However each show does hold the responsibilty of trying to keep an audience, why do you think NBC put a lot of weak shows around Sienfeild/Friends in hopes that that auidence for those shows would enjoy, stick around for Suddenly Susan or Caroline in the City or something

Why do you think they continually saddeled Newsradio with weak shows, in hopes that the NR audience would bring an audience to the other shows, but those shows ultimatly killed Newsradio. Chuck kept me for Heros, Hero's lost me as I'd be flipping through channels and find something else I'd be interested in and forget frankly that Journeyman was on

I'm still beyond Pissed Off
by skydemon
Aug 9th, 2008
10:52:22 AM
The way NBC pissed away this show. Short Sighted IDIOTS!! Any other networks smart enough out there to pick this up??
EvilWizardGlick
by ChildOfMen
Aug 9th, 2008
11:19:39 AM
I don't think so; in the Time Tunnel they didn't do any sort of "time repair"; more specifically they were lost in time, and usually thrust into the middle of some historical disaster (the Titanic, etc.). They were never able to repair time (put right what once went wrong, etc.). Sapphire & Steel was sort of about "protecting the integrity of time" but still not quite of the same "time repair" genre as something like Quantum Leap or Journeyman.
thanks for posting this
by coachaaron
Aug 9th, 2008
11:52:38 AM
i'd wondered about how this show would play out for so long now, it will be missed. it was my favorite new show last year, and NBC blew it. heroes was garbage last year, season 3 looks much better but to think that they canned journeyman because they felt they had too much sci-fi on the network was ridiculous.
New series concept: Wrap it up
by br1947
Aug 9th, 2008
12:09:48 PM
That would be something interesting, something completely episodic like Twilight Zone, invite cancelled series to 'wrap it up' in one episode. Legal would be a nightmare, but it'd mean alot to fans
Follow the money
by agentf1
Aug 9th, 2008
12:14:56 PM
I think NBC knew this was a good show that had A LOT of potential, that became clear by the 5th or 6th episode.
The problem was that NBC/Universal didn't own the show. It was owned by 20th Century Fox.
I'd be willing to bet that had NBC/Universal owned the show they would have almost certainly renewed it to either continue on NBC or move the production to Vancouver and air it on SciFi as a way to keep "serious quality scifi" part of the network with BG ending.
last episode
by ericj224
Aug 9th, 2008
12:20:50 PM
I actually really liked the way the last episode played out. We got enough information to be somewhat satisfied, and that was enough for me. Personally, I like it when some of the mysteries are left just that- mysteries. And yes, Moon was smoking!
this show should have had Heroes' timeslot
by oisin5199
Aug 9th, 2008
12:59:06 PM
Since Heroes blew so horribly last season and this show was freakin' excellent. I loved these characters and was completely rooting for their marriage. From the first episode with the scene of burying the ring and the 'I'll always come back to you,' I was hooked. I also don't understand the critics' dismissal. Even Matt Roush from TVGuide, who usually's right on, was really harsh and I never understood why. It was NOT a Quantum Leap ripoff. The main point was not the people he helped but how those adventures immediately affected his home situation. In Quantum Leap, Sam went from person to person and didn't have a home base, plus he became other people, while Dan was always Dan, which made things more interesting. Besides the time travel fixing thing, there was NO similarity. The final shot of the series when Dan's wife finally got to see him go and the camera goes into her eye: beautiful, brilliant. They should have done a graphic novel. Everything NBC has for next year just looks so lame in comparison. Christian Slater? Really? Knight frickin Rider? Robinson Crusoe? Come on. Journeyman needs a dvd set with full commentaries. Get on that, somebody!
So, why was he traveling through time?
by Sappers Forward
Aug 9th, 2008
01:00:34 PM
I thought we were going to get some answers here. All we got was speculation and sub plots. How the hell do you create a show and not even know what's at the core of it yourself? For once I'd like to see a shows creators come up with something from beginning to end and have faith in their creative abilities. Not rely on popular demand from the viewers and critics to shape the outcome of things. But then that's T.V. for you and nobody wants to loose their spot on the schedule because people don't agree with your creative expression. No backbone.
So, why was he traveling through time?
by Sappers Forward
Aug 9th, 2008
01:00:36 PM
I thought we were going to get some answers here. All we got was speculation and sub plots. How the hell do you create a show and not even know what's at the core of it yourself? For once I'd like to see a shows creators come up with something from beginning to end and have faith in their creative abilities. Not rely on popular demand from the viewers and critics to shape the outcome of things. But then that's T.V. for you and nobody wants to loose their spot on the schedule because people don't agree with your creative expression. No backbone.
Stop picking at the scab!
by Steve_Dooku
Aug 9th, 2008
01:28:29 PM
Thanks for posting this Herc, but man the thing was just starting to scar over.

Broken record, but this WAS an excellent show and not a QL rip. Best written characters I've seen in a long time. Thanks Mr. Falls.
Pathetic end?
by ciroslive
Aug 9th, 2008
01:30:28 PM
Okay, who should have been sending Sam Beckett through time? The Quantum Leap accelerator? He was going to the exact right time and place to fix things that went wrong. The goddamn DEVIL was in a previous episode saying Sam was screwing with things that THE DEVIL was putting wrong. If you watched the series its a not huge jump that God is the one doing it...
AAAARRRRRRRGGGHHHHHHH!!!!!!
by L.H.Puttgrass
Aug 9th, 2008
01:34:38 PM
You know I had finally convinced myself that it was all just a bad, bad dream. A forgotten nightmare. Now somebody had to write an article about it and bring it screaming back into my fevered brain.

Thank you so very much.

I'll be at the liquor store if anybodys looking for me.

Bloo
by smackfu
Aug 9th, 2008
01:59:04 PM
I know that's why networks program their blocks that way. The thing is, they do it that way for the same reason ad companies spend millions on ads...on the assumption that most people are dumb and easily manipulated. Personally, when a show I'm watching is nearing an end and I want to decide what to watch next...I turn on my tv guide, take a look at what's on next, and pick what I want to watch most. The show I'm currently watching has absolutely no bearing on what I'm going to watch next, unless it's the sequel to what I'm currently watching. This is how people with free will decide things. Based on what they want, not what a corporation put infront of them to watch next.
Bacci40
by CeejayNightwing
Aug 9th, 2008
02:08:55 PM
The fact that so many people who don't have short attention spans and can see potential stuck with the show to the point it started presenting stories far superior to its initial set, means this show had the makings of a classic Sci Fi drama and you simply remained clueless just like the others who short-sighteded wrote it off as some variation on Quantum Leap. QL did not start nor did it hold all the rights to TV Time Travel stories. Back when I was a kid Irwin Allens Time Tunnel show was doing Quantum Leap and so was Doctor Who, then there was Fantastic Journey in 1997 which also predates Quantum Leap, and then Voyagers in 1982, and even after Quantum Leap we've had TimeTrax, SLiders and Life on Mars. So if people like you who grow up watching one themed show can't accept another show on the same theme, then its not the problem of the show, its simply your problem! Journey man was a great show, it was easily the best new show out of everything this year and just for the record, it did have humor, just not forced or delivered in a can! Kevin Falls should consider continuing the story in a set of novels or a Graphic novel. This has worked for Firefly V and Alien Nation in the past. Moon Bloodgood was one sexy beast BTW
I think
by optimus122
Aug 9th, 2008
02:11:10 PM
Somehow the showrunner still thinks there is a glimmer of hope that he will have a 2nd crack at it. Thats why no definitive answer...eh nah, probably never was a reason created as of yet.
There was an answer in there - of sorts.
by jgsugden
Aug 9th, 2008
02:41:29 PM
What pushed him through time? Not science, not government - it was too precise for those types of explanations. If you can read between the lines, you'll read that as nature/God/destiny/Oreos being behind his 'leap' (don't pretend you don't worship the BWB goodness of Oreos). The show wasn't 100% original, but NOTHING is. It was fun to watch - and I wanted to see more. That is all that matters to me.
plotting the endgame
by oisin5199
Aug 9th, 2008
02:45:55 PM
I'm not sure that people who complain about this get how tv writing works. In most cases you're more concerned about the journey than the destination. When I watch shows like this I usually don't care what the huge guiding force behind everything is, because it's never going to be as interesting as the stories being told about the journey. Look at classic western literature. Heaven or hell are boring in and of themselves. But the road to either one, that's interesting. After all, it was called Journeyman not Destinationman.
Fuck.
by CatVutt
Aug 9th, 2008
03:17:54 PM
Well, that was depressing.
Spymunk 13
by ChildOfMen
Aug 9th, 2008
03:34:48 PM
To be fair, Quantum Leap's finale did sort of seem to leave it a little bit of an open question about whether it was God or something else (personally I got the feeling that the bartender there was more strongly hinting that Sam was in fact controlling his own leaps, and even seemed to more explicitly say so by telling him he could control them... and Sam of course used that at the end to help Al). Although of course it leaves open the question of how those leaps did end up sending him to the right places and times to fix what went wrong. And clearly there was a theological bent to the whole thing (especially with the whole "Evil Leaper" thing). Given the context of the show, sci-fi trappings aside, it does seem like there was a bit of a clear theological bent to the whole moral issue....... in particular the idea that Sam did have to "fix" what went wrong before he could leap again. I think this is what made it very different from something like Time Tunnel, where they explicitly couldn't "fix" what went wrong.... although the Time Tunnel's philosophy was clearly that you can't "fix" what went wrong because it already happened. Although the interesting wrinkle perhaps was that sometimes their actions did contribute to making things happen the way they were supposed to.
Don't forget 7 Days.
by Steve_Dooku
Aug 9th, 2008
03:41:38 PM
Add it to the "time travelers fixing stuff in the past" list
this show was fucking brilliant
by Mr_X
Aug 9th, 2008
03:57:32 PM
the first epsiode was boring, but the ending, the ending just got me hooked, i watched and kept watching and then epsiode 7, it just totally blew up, every epeiode after that was superb, fantastically layered storylines comign together and you could see the awesome storylines they were developing . this was intelligent sci-fi, and this series was better then heroes. download the torrents dammit watch and see what the fuck you missed. FUCK NBC really. fuck them.
Bacci40
by Mr_X
Aug 9th, 2008
04:01:33 PM
do yourself a favour mate, watch the 13 epsiodes all of them. really. if you cant see what those that watched saw in them, then fine. but if you do watch with an open mind you'll be gutted like the rest of us that a fine show was shot down before it's time
ARrrrrrggghh TOO SOON!
by Mr_X
Aug 9th, 2008
04:03:56 PM
the wounds are still fresh. dammit, i would love to rewatch this series, but i cant, because i know it ends and there's no more episodes. one day i will again. one day. FUCK YOU NBC!
Hmmm. kinda disappointing that
by FrodoFraggins
Aug 9th, 2008
05:17:33 PM
the writers had no clue about key parts of the show. I agree with others that it's absurd for key plot threads of the show to be completely unknown by the writers. It makes you assume that all they do is plan/write one episode at a time and put in what they think sounds cool and figure it out later when they have to.
This show was 100 times the show that QL was
by jmyoung666
Aug 9th, 2008
05:46:22 PM
I am so disappointed it was canceled.

I find it surprising that this guy was a science fiction novice, as the show was one of the better ones out there.

The Fugitive - I mean Incredible Hulk - I mean Touched by an Angel - I mean Quantum Leap never really rose above its basic ancient premise. In just 13 episodes, this series managed to include more ideas.

I'm kind of glad it got cancelled
by samsquanch
Aug 9th, 2008
06:51:22 PM
"Let’s just say it was too specific and grand to be science or government."

Kind of says it all, doesn't it? This was going to go the 'Touched by an Angel" route, and you all fucking know it. Good Riddance.

a spec he wrote during the Writers Strike??
by the power of GREYSKULL
Aug 9th, 2008
07:02:47 PM
he gonna burn in hell for that one
This Just Reminded Me...
by CHEWBLACCA
Aug 9th, 2008
07:37:53 PM
...how much I loved (and miss) this show. - I wonder if it could have survived if they had just cut the music budget. Probably not. :(
I agree captboulder
by ThrowMeTheIdol
Aug 9th, 2008
07:40:27 PM
Journeyman would have been perfect for USA or Sci Fi - both of which are owned by NBC, if I'm not mistaken.
Kevin Falls, really disappointed me
by comedian_x
Aug 9th, 2008
09:12:28 PM
with his answers there. One, he wasn't even interested in Sci-Fi and had no respect for genre. Two, he didn't even know what his show was about. This explains why is was so disjointed and all over the place. The concept is great -- the creator ruined his own show though.
Hey fellow JM lovers
by VegasRon
Aug 9th, 2008
09:31:36 PM
miss the TB!

Fuck anyone who didn't like this show or repeats the idiots' duel mantras of "if it was so good, how come it didnt get great ratings" and "it's a ripoff of QL". Fucking retarded horsefucking mouthbreathers.

Anyway, much love to the JM TB regs.

Oh and NBC's replacement for JM is...
by VegasRon
Aug 9th, 2008
09:34:23 PM
Christian Slater.

Kevin McKidd would fuck slater up from SF to Alexandria and back again.

Mckidd was awesome..
by Billyeveryteen
Aug 9th, 2008
09:36:03 PM
He's great in Rome too.

Moon Bloodgood is so unbelievably hot, I changed my name to Jupiter Thunderpenis.

Oh yeah, Bacci
by VegasRon
Aug 9th, 2008
09:42:26 PM
the first 4 or 5 eps of JM are pretty pedestrian. It's either ep 5 or 6 that things really take off.

When you're bored one weekend, watch the whole thing. The final episode, "Perfidia" is one of my all time favorite hours of television.

i really loved this show..but..
by soup74
Aug 10th, 2008
01:11:59 AM
this article made it sound like the end of the show was going to make it seem like a higher power was making dan time travel..without ever saying it was 'god.' (leaving that up to the viewer)

that would have been a really lame ending..but then, this show was good enough, they probably would have found a decent ending.
Stupid NBC...
by mrplowking
Aug 10th, 2008
02:32:34 AM
Journeyman was a fuckin' great show and I've burned them all to disc. I was holding out hope that another network - or even cable - might have picked it up. But alas that hope is gone now. It's criminal that Journeyman was cut short, but crap like Charlie Sheen's alleged "comedy" shit-show is still chugging along. I hope the networks all burn in hell.
You call those answers?!
by Akira Cowabunga
Aug 10th, 2008
02:41:18 AM
Fuck you. Waste my time some more you motherfuckers, I've got nothing better to do. Except to skull fuck you idiots who waste my time by promising answers and giving me shit instead.
So who was doing it? Still don't know.
by V'Shael
Aug 10th, 2008
03:25:53 AM
Not that that's necessarily a bad thing. Sometimes, these post-cancellation interviews simply reveal that the writers were fucktards who simply dodged a bullet by having their show cancelled.

I remember trying to find out what John Doe was all about, because I really liked that show. When I found out what the writers had planned, I was glad they didn't have the chance to fuck up the show with their insanely stupid revelations.

V'Shael
by Xiphos_2
Aug 10th, 2008
03:58:14 AM
What did the writers have planned for John Doe?
bacci40
by Mr_X
Aug 10th, 2008
06:15:20 AM

yeah i understand the accent issue. Personally it didn't effect me. I actually couldn't watch babylon 5, because of Londo's hairstyle. It's true. it reminded me of a turkey, and after watching the first season, i couldn't hack it any more.

Do yourself a favour bro, try and make it through the other 8 episodes, and in sequence, it just opens up man. dans brother jack is such an ass, and yet by episode 8/9 you'll end up loving the guy. the stories just get better and better, and you'll hopefully realise like the majority of the talkbackers on this thread, why they miss the show so damm much. Seriously. give it a shot, whilst there absolutely fuck all worth watching right now on tv. When folks on this site, express a love for a show / movie that i havent really gotten or go for, i give it a try / second shot. just to see if they were right. and for the most part they normally are.
Xiphos_2
by V'Shael
Aug 10th, 2008
06:16:58 AM
After the show was cancelled, one of its producers revealed the secret of the main character's true identity in an interview with TV Guide: the Phoenix Organization, he said, was a group conducting research into near-death experiences. They believed that the sum total of knowledge in the universe would be conferred upon them at the moment of death, so they killed John and brought him back to life in order to gain access to that knowledge.

Another explanation of Doe's identity was eventually put forward by the show's producers in the pages of Entertainment Weekly. The article read, in part:

What Would Have Happened: The villain unmasked in the finale was actually just a Phoenix member with some fancy facial reconstruction. Turns out, the Phoenix believed Doe was the Messiah and its members were actually protecting Doe from a second group, which wanted him dead. The truth: Doe was injured in a boating accident. That mark on his chest? A scar left by a piece of shrapnel from the explosion. His Überbrain? A by-product of transcending his body during a near-death experience, traveling to a spiritual plane where all the universe's questions are answered. So Who is John Doe?! "You'd think we actually would have come up with his name," the show's producer revealed. "We have no idea," he finally admitted, before adding "Fred."

On the popular weekly podcast Diggnation, Alex Albrecht said he was given a reason for the black and white vision, as well as all of the knowledge John Doe had. It was said that when you reach the gates of heaven, you are given the answer to every question you'll ever ask or that will ever be asked. And the reason for the black-and-white vision was an effect of being returned to earth.

Offtopic: The Heroes season 2 alternate (original) ending..
by Pennsy
Aug 10th, 2008
09:48:22 AM
before the writers strike nuked it - now on youtube: http://tinyurl.com/6f43cu.
THIRTEEN!!!!!!!!!!!
by medicinaluser
Aug 10th, 2008
10:57:25 AM
Should have got Pullo and made it a time travelling duo out to save the world from...stuff...like.
The problem with this concept is ...
by The StarWolf
Aug 10th, 2008
11:31:41 AM
I've long had a problem with this sort of show. Not because I'm adverse to time travel - I'm a science fiction nut - but because of the way it's handled. We've got either an omniscient, God-like being, or some major organization in the background, powerful enough to have TIME TRAVEL ... yet they keep having to find some poor, clueless shmuck to do their work for them?! Hunh? It's as if the CIA kidnapped someone at random in Kabukistan, drugged them into unconsciousness, flew them to Bolivia, dropped them off in a back alley, and hoped they could be subtly nudged to rescue some geneticists in a university in another city before the secret police got to them. Think about this: it makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.
Dan's Dad
by agentf1
Aug 10th, 2008
12:09:02 PM
I thought that the mention of having Dan's son travel through time was a heavy hint that his dad was also a traveller. The story arc of his dad meeting Elliot in the past was just too much of a coincidence. I think Dan's father may have been the ultimate show story arc and perhaps his dad would have had the answers in the end

Regardless of what was not revealed about the show in this interview, you have to admit had they finished the first season as described it would have been awesome.

Falls, give us a comic book!!!!!!!!!
by snowpuff
Aug 10th, 2008
12:24:29 PM
Offtopic : The Heroes season 2 alternate ending
by V'Shael
Aug 10th, 2008
12:25:33 PM
was pretty good. Better than the actual ending they went with.

I still think the show has pissed off too many fans to recover in Season 3 though. I know I dropped it from my viewing list, as did most of the people I know.

cool
by palooka_boy
Aug 10th, 2008
01:11:13 PM
but I still wish he would tell us EXACTLY who/what was causing Dan's journeys. its not like hed be spoiling anything at this point.
Better left unsaid
by agentf1
Aug 10th, 2008
01:39:23 PM
I say it's better left unsaid. I liked knowing how season 1 may have worked out as described but feel that at least two full seasons may have been necessary before we were _ready_ to know the truth :)

Besides, maybe Kevin Falls doesn't want to reveal too much, who knows, maybe the show could be rebooted or at least tweaked to follow a different traveller and maybe they meet up with Dan Vasser at some point.

Heroes
by optimus122
Aug 10th, 2008
02:33:55 PM
I got to give it one more chance..season 1 was awesome , 2 was mediocre at best. Maybe 3 will return to form.
God I miss this show.
by SkidMarkedUndies
Aug 10th, 2008
03:01:36 PM
What a horrible way to treat such a talented piece of art. Sad. Oh well, at least Knight Rider is coming!!! FU NBC. You're going to screw up Thursday Night too. You just wait and see.
V'Shael Thanks for the John Doe Information
by Xiphos_2
Aug 10th, 2008
03:04:58 PM
Thank you for taking the time to answer my question about John Doe. I appreciate it.
Hell!
by skydemon
Aug 10th, 2008
04:34:39 PM
Bionic Woman is out on DVD, so where are the Journeyman DVD's At LEAST give us that!
Sucked more than a Dyson vacuum cleaner
by theoristABC
Aug 10th, 2008
04:52:54 PM
This show was so fucking terrible. It was obviously made for idiot pre-teens. It basically sucked more than a Dyson vacuum cleaner! arg.
theoristABC's mom sucks better than a Dyson vacuum cleaner
by Mr_X
Aug 10th, 2008
04:58:32 PM
yarrr, she's bag free! that alternative heroes ending was worse than the already forgetten real ending. eroes is one of the reasons journeyman fell through cuuase heroes was so fucking awful, everyone turned off theit tv's fuck heroes! fuck nbc!
switch makes me a LESBIAN
by shogunshin
Aug 10th, 2008
05:11:43 PM
i never grasped this concept, that if a guy ALL OF A SUDDEN changed into a chick, he would dig on MEN? are you KIDDING ME??? so if this character all of a sudden starts dating men, its a craptastic idea. you are born liking WOMEN or MEN. it does not matter what sex you are. you like one or the other. (save for the bisexuals, of course!) so i hope this guy realizes that, and makes the main character a lesbian. because he has to ask HIMSELF this question. if you were changed into a chick, would you suck dick? of course not!
shogunshin exactamundo
by Mr_X
Aug 10th, 2008
05:19:09 PM
my thoughts exactly. the character wouldnt change, he's just go after hot lesbians. everyones happy!
GOTILK!! Where's gotilk?!?
by L.H.Puttgrass
Aug 10th, 2008
06:06:09 PM
You can't have a Journeyman TB without gotilk!

It.

Just.

Doesn't.

Happen!

Someboby send up a Bat-signal or somthing.

I know! Send up a Moon-signal!!

Fuck I could go for a ketchup sammich...
by nalapou
Aug 10th, 2008
08:53:08 PM
Fuck I could go for a ketchup sammich...
by nalapou
Aug 10th, 2008
08:54:18 PM
damn shame. Easily the best new network show last year... I'll watch Lalola just to support you Kevin Falls, even thoguh it sounds retarded compared to the great Journeyman.
shogunshin
by Akira Cowabunga
Aug 10th, 2008
11:53:03 PM
So if you were turned into a woman, you say you wouldn't want to suck dick. Would you also not allow a man to penetrate you with his dick? Not even once, to see what it felt like? The women I've known have sure seemed to like it, so it must feel pretty good...
Time Tunnel as a primary source?
by lynxpro
Aug 11th, 2008
02:34:27 AM
Get the fuck out. Anyone who chooses to reference *Time Tunnel* as a definitive source on time travel tv series makes Kevin Federline look like a Nobel Prize winning scientist. *Doctor Who* owns *Time Tunnel*, biotches.
Thanks Herc!!
by gotilk
Aug 11th, 2008
02:34:45 AM
Thanks for the followup, it means a lot. It would have been great to see him take the show in a few of those directions. But no DVD? Wow.
L.H.!!
by gotilk
Aug 11th, 2008
02:36:04 AM
Dude. The memories.
Woot, Got!
by VegasRon
Aug 11th, 2008
04:29:47 AM
sup yo
FUCK YOU NBC!
by HoboCode
Aug 11th, 2008
09:49:25 AM
FUCK YOU UP YOUR STUPID ASSES! HARD! NO LUBE! FUCK. YOU. DRY. AT LEAST GIVE US DVD'S YOU FUCKING WHORES!!!

P.S. FUCK YOU.

sigh...such a good show
by just pillow talk
Aug 11th, 2008
09:59:46 AM
# of shows I watch now: 0

And Heroes will probably suck again this year.

Bacci40, part of the reason Journeyman failed to hold
by Big Jim
Aug 11th, 2008
01:32:48 PM
Heroes' audience: 10pm is their bedtime. The kids watch Heroes, then go to bed and mom & dad switch over to CSI Miami because it is what everyone else is watching.
That's 8 months of therapy fucked then....
by dj_bollocks
Aug 11th, 2008
01:38:11 PM
Bastards !
Ahh, gotilk still lives.
by L.H.Puttgrass
Aug 11th, 2008
05:31:06 PM
How's it hanging?
The truth at last!
by afraidoffans
Aug 12th, 2008
09:47:08 AM
Although I loved Journeyman and was gutted the show was cancelled this interview proves the writers only think of one season at a time. I suppose the vicious nature of the studio axe stops writers putting too much effort in the overall story but c'mon, at least have an idea! A truly great story is one where the author starts at the end and works backwards. It's blatantly obvious with some TV shows and movies they have a brilliant idea for a beginning and then just kind of limp along to the end. Journeyman seemed better than me but lets face it, based on this interview if it had not have been cancelled, by the time we got to season 3 at the most it would have become obvious they had no idea where the story was going.
"Journeyman and Studio60 cancelled without a chance to mature!"
by minderbinder
Aug 13th, 2008
11:45:37 AM
In the case of S60, Sorkin is a seasoned TV pro and should have had his shit together better. That show was also ungodly expensive to produce - in that kind of situation Sorkin needed to have it solid from the get go, not flounder around for the entire first season in search of direction.
Terminator Sara Connor
by Holycarp
Aug 19th, 2008
02:02:16 PM
It is so sad that JM is gone! At least I have the Sara Connor Chronicles to look forwar to. I don't see this show getting the kind of attention it deserves either. The writing is phenominal! I have convinced a couple friends of mine to finally watch it. They were afraid it wouldn't live up to the movies. Now they see they were wrong.
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