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Amen by ?GR	Jun 13th, 1999 12:16:57 AM
Do it right or don't do it at all. I'm getting so sick of cheesy remakes that try to appeal to the broadest audience. If the studios would just realize that you don't have to pander to the least common denominator, and still make money, the world would be a better place. Oh yeah, before I forget: Godzilla 2000 is going to ROCK!!!
Who are all those morons voting for the Stephen Sommers remake i by paragonian	Jun 13th, 1999 12:21:19 AM
You can't honestly think Sommers is gonna do a good one, it'll end up like Anaconda (which could've been really scary if done right). The only thing scary about his films is the fact that they were made at all. Carpenter has genius down there in him somewhere, I know the man that made the greatest and scariest horror film of all time (The Thing) is in there trying to resist the Hollywood plague with which it's host has been infected with in the 90's. We need at least one truely scary film this decade, I guess it wouldn't be released until 2000 though, Damn. I didn't know that a soft drink company owns Universal (is it Coke?), no wonder all their films are watered down. Go rent Babe: Pig in the City, it's their only good one.
Universal ownership by tgdbar	Jun 13th, 1999 02:29:01 AM
Actually, I think Universal is now owned by Seagrams, the Canadian(?) liquour company. They bought out Matsushita a couple of years back as I remember. I know that I did NOT vote for the Summers version. I will watch most any Carpenter film, as I know that there will always be SOMETHING worthwhile to see in it.
I'M one of the "morons" who voted for Sommers by j. doe	Jun 13th, 1999 03:43:05 AM
Why did I vote for Sommers over Carpenter? For a simple reason, really: John Carpenter's movies suck. Most of his films are laughable, including the ones that are prased up and down. Halloween was cheezy, boring and not one bit scary. H20 scared me more than the original. Assualt of Pricint 13 had, possibly, the worst action sequences ever. The Fog...well, thats pretty self explanitory. They Live had Roddy "Rowdy" Piper in it ('nuff said). Village of the Damned...a remake that sucked (gosh, a remake that sucked...don't you think that means something, like perhaps his remake of CFTBL will also suck?) Escape from LA was boring and pointless. Vampires was the worst movie EVER made. And I don't really care what you say about Sommers', because Deep Rising entertained me enough that I saw it more than once AND finally did good by Kevin J. Anderson (Which I've known since Lord Of Illusions). The Mummy kicked my asshole all over the place, and I'll definitly come back for more of that. So screw Carpenter and his crappy films, I'll take Sommers any day of the week.
I thought that was a poll about Suzanne Sommers by spike lee	Jun 13th, 1999 07:39:52 AM
What show did you like better Three's Company or Step by Step? John Carpenter needs to do a horror film next, and basically he needs a hit. I do think John has a lot of talent left, rememeber he wrote and directed the greatest horror film ever, Halloween. So will it be John Carpenter's Creature From The Black Lagoon?
Sommers sucks..... by KULA	Jun 13th, 1999 08:40:28 AM
Look j.doe, John Carpenter has been making movies for over 20 years, so it is easy to pick out his failures (of which, admittedly, there are many). But let's not get ahead of ourselves here. Carpenter's triumphs (of which there are also many) are a higher quality than ANYTHING Sommers has done. When anyone tells me they did not think Halloween was a scary flick, it leads me to believe they are too young to have seen it in the theaters, before every other studio has ripped it off (see H20). When it came out, Halloween was an innovative film. I don't have to remind anyone who could drive or vote at the time how many slasher films were spewed out after Halloween's success. Also, why did you not mention in your condemnation of Carpenter's talent such stinkers as The Thing, Escape from New York, Prince of Darkness, or Big Trouble in Little China? Oh yeah, those movies kicked much ass (as did Halloween). I suppose someone is bound to post that Citizen Kane was a piece of shit because Welles just couldn't get the "color thing" down. Go rent yourseld some DVDs. L8.
j. doe - kevin j anderson??? by Moleman	Jun 13th, 1999 08:44:18 AM
try kevin j o'connor.
Put it this way... by Bob the Tomato	Jun 13th, 1999 09:19:55 AM
Both Carpenter and Sommers are very talented, honestly I prefer Carpenter based on the experience factor. I'd rather see Sommers switch to a project not based on a previously established property, The Mummy was a very cool and fun flick but because it is a remake it loses some of it's much due appreciation. Problem is, who knows if Carpenter would do it right...he doesn't seem right for the project. While on may be the better director all around doesn't mean they are fit for any film...Woo is the best director alive and I would never assign him to this film. Hopefully I cleared this up....
CFTBL DESERVES Sommers; live with it, Harry. by Ilvenshang	Jun 13th, 1999 10:53:47 AM
The Creature is a great monster design, but the movies stank. First one=stupid. Second=idiotic. Third=moronic. Oh, yeah and they're really boring too. So how is handing the Creature off to Sommers an abuse of the character? I can see where the snob purists are coming from when they whine about Sommers's take on the Mummy (the original WAS very highbrow, not good but highbrow). BUt w/ regard to the Creature they haven't a leg to stand on.
PLease God tell me this is a bad dream like Win98 by Phr33k0uT	Jun 13th, 1999 12:13:37 PM
Do we really need another damn remake? For christ sake! All this money being spent on remakes - which we all know always turn out like shit (name one good one) - can be spent on making a NEW film using a NEW idea. But unfortunately, we all know what will happen. Remake after remake will spew forth from the small minds of Executives who don't know, or care, about good films. This makes me wonder, how many GOOD scripts are thrown away everytime one lame ass one - like _The_Mummy_ - is approved, or considered?
Amphibian by Rollo	Jun 13th, 1999 01:03:22 PM
I've seen a Winston Studios sketch of the Amphibian and it would make one of the most awsome, kick-ass movie creatures of all time - like the original CFTBL only on mega-monster-steroids! Universal should absolutely talk to Stan before doing anything.
carpenter still sucks, kiddies by j. doe	Jun 13th, 1999 07:10:18 PM
I'll give Carpenter The Thing and Big Trouble, but i think Escape wasn't nearly as good as anyone says it is, and whole POD had it moments, its still second rate. now keep in mind that this is my opinon, and im in no way saying that these films cannot be enjoyed by others, i just feel Carpenter doesnt deseve the praise he gets. As for "DR X," O'conner (gosh, so sorry to get the guys name wrong) makes me laught, i dont think H20 is scary in the least, but its still a whole lot scarier than the original (meaning that i think neither is scary. get it?), and yes, i think carpenter's movies suck. i've been a fan of film all my life, i read all the trades, and im currently in film school, being taught by people who have made actual films, so i think that i'm more than qualified to comment on filmmakers. and who the hell are you to tell me what i should like, anyway, the film fascist?
j. doe: the future looks pretty black by Rodzilla	Jun 13th, 1999 08:53:52 PM
I'd like to stop for a moment and thank the couple of brave souls who questioned j. doe's worthless taste in films and those who make them. Sometimes opinions are irrelevant. j. doe is just plain wrong, but he's probably too young and too cocky to know it. Sadly, he states that he's in film school. Oooohhh. I think that is the scariest news I've heard all day. Hopefully the world will end at Y2K, just so we won't have to endure any of j. doe's "art." I am personally depressed now, knowing the immature and just plain idiotic opinions of those let into film school these days. Go for it big guy! The world needs more tasteless movie moguls just like you. And--if you're out drinking heavily one night at a big Hollywood party. Take Mullhulland Drive home. You'll love the curves!!!
Okay, Dr. X. I think we've verbally kicked the shit out of poor by Rodzilla	Jun 13th, 1999 09:19:51 PM
I must agree with you whole heartedly, Dr. X. I can hardly stand the no-brainer opinions of smart alec, self obsessed little would-be director types like j. doe either. I sat surrounded by a pack of the little bastards at a screening of "Austin Powers: The Spy Who Shagged Me" this afternoon. However, I think we've done enough damage and defended John Carpenter's good name today. I hope j. doe is thick skinned, because he's going to have to endure all the crappy reviews his films are going to get some day, when every armchair critic tears them appart on the Internet.
Film School?!!! HA! by Big Old Banh	Jun 13th, 1999 09:36:07 PM
j. doe, all right, it's bad enough your taste in films is mediocre at best, but your justification for hating them because you're in film school is just pathetic. Let me point you to an old maxim: THOSE WHO CANNOT DO: TEACH. Your "teachers" or "professors" are in no way more qualified than any other fanboy out there (including me.) Just because you're in film school doesn't make you a more credible voice in film criticism (another field of people who failed in the film industry.) So now you can slam specific camera angles. Whoopty fucking A, man! Wow, obviously you skipped the screenwriting classes, or you might have noticed that DEEP RISING is lacking the most basic semblance of a plot, and the Mummy is an effects film that can't decide if it wants to be horror or comedy. The Mummy is one of the WORST psuedo-remakes out there, and your defense of it knocks your would be credibility even further down the scale. So after you bomb in an already crowded field, sit down and WATCH movies, instead of trying to slam what you don't understand.
Carpenter of old by Crapshooter	Jun 13th, 1999 10:24:09 PM
I love John Carpenter, and I cannot wait to see him put some great celluloid together again which, in my opinion, he has not done in some time). I'm not sure that CFTBL is the film that will put JC back on the throne. I would rather not see that project reach fruition regardless of who is at the helm, and let's see Carpenter go back to making the kind of original pictures that fill my member with blood.
John Carpenter sorta sucks ass. by Emery	Jun 13th, 1999 10:59:01 PM
John Carpenter did pretty good with Big Trouble in little China. But.... The Fog bites, the Thing, was okay, but easy to fall asleep in, and frankly didn't do the old sci-fi tale "Halt Who Goes There?" justice anymore than Body Snatchers or Puppet Masters did Rob Heinlein justice. As to all this mediocre taste in movies crap....John Carpenter rarely manages to achieve a level of film making mediocrity. Vampires was an embarrassment. It was a mere nipple piercing in an age were people have moved on to full body tattooing. It will be a lukewarm cult movie at best, and well behind Lost Boys. It's more in the forgettable Salem's Lot class of Vampire footage. And the so called blues soundtrack was just a zip-lock freezer bag o suck too. It was Godzilla America with wooden stakes to me. ANyhoo I don't give a flip who directs a Creature film, but Deep Rising was kind of a cute film. It Didn't try to be more than a popcorn flick, and it's lack of complex plot didn't hurt it. It was aort of in the same vein as Arachnaphobis, but with stunts. You guys who knock the Mummy and say it couldn't decide if it was a horror flick or a comdy...The answer is, it was a light action comdey that used effects and a few horror shots to get the audience to come in, laugh, and enjoy themselves, which is more than they managed with Vampires. Mummy was good. Deal with it. Vampires was pants. Cheap, crappy pants and nothing more. It was phoned in, and wasn't anywhere near it's hype level. And don't give me this "they edited it down to an R" crap either. It was a poor film, I didn't care about the characters, it's nudity was gratuitious, it's violence un entertaining, and the whole thing was basicly a cheezy flick that should have fallen under the Howling direct to video banner. Finally folks who say that Halloween wasn't scary are mostly right. Yeah, I know it was widely imitated but so was Beverly Hills 90210. Does that make it good or effective? BTW I'm not in film school, but you tweprs aren't out in the real world, so I guess that makes us even. Or odd, or whatever. Night everybody.
I love that... by Josh Acid	Jun 13th, 1999 11:33:26 PM
"HALT! Who Goes There?". That was great. Then I skipped the rest of your comments, Emery. Sorry. P.S. There's no "Halt" in the title.
P.P.S. by Josh Acid	Jun 13th, 1999 11:37:05 PM
I'm in science fiction school, so I can make comments like that.
The Mummy wasn't really a remake. by gary2012	Jun 14th, 1999 12:37:43 AM
At least not in my mind. Just because it was labeled "The Mummy" and made by universal doesn't mean anything. It was just a new story that did not relate at all to the original film entitled "The Mummy", so I wouldn't really call it a remake. As for all of this film school nonsense, I just graduated from art school, but you don't hear me saying that. AWW SHIT! I just did! anyways, if there is one thing to know about art/film students its that if they try to use that status as a reason why they know more than you it usually means that they are just big fucking hacks, and that they don't know what they are talking about, but think that they do because they are in school. There are things about film and art that just can't be taught. The only things that the average film/art school student knows more about are either business or technical aspects. Anyone can have an eye for good camera angles, directing, acting, painting, drawing, ect. without going to school for it. You go to school to learn what you need to know to actualy be a director, not to learn how to be a "good" director. Being a "good" director is something, an eye, sense of judgement,ect., that could be in anyone, even if they never learned the technical aspects of directing.
One step back, everyone by Prof. Plum	Jun 14th, 1999 12:33:32 PM
Well! Mr. Film School certainly queued himself up for a sound spanking, didn't he? Now that we have that settled, let's take a moment and step back. Harry, I know you love this character, I like him to, in a funny, fond sort of way. But I have to say that the movies, as they are, are just not that good. I've tried to put myself in the mindset of having been there when they were first released, and I can't muster up too many shivers thinking about it. Dracula, Frankenstien, The Wolf Man, The Mummy, these are legendary characters. TCFTBL is a man in a rubber suit with an all-too-obvious zipper. To meddle with this character is, I feel, permissable. I think it's an interesting notion, and I'd like to see what kind of treatment it gets. If it's a serious hair-raiser, great! If it's a fun little poke without a lot of weight, then we're only doing what the creators originally accomplished years ago, but with better effects.
Good Remakes by Anton_Sirius	Jun 14th, 1999 12:33:47 PM
If Sommers' Mummy is a remake of the Karloff Mummy, then wouldn't that make Star Wars a remake of Kurosawa's Hidden Fortress?
Mummy not a remake? by Gothmog	Jun 14th, 1999 02:16:27 PM
Sorry folks, but just because you consider this year's Mummy movie to be hack-job, doesn't mean that it's not a remake. Anybody remember Dino De Laurentiis' remake of King Kong? Guess what? It sucked, but it was most definitely a remake. If you feel the remake doesn't come close to the original, you can't just bury your head in the sand and pretend that it never happened.
Film School by Sakla	Jun 14th, 1999 02:29:28 PM
I'm confused, how can you bash someone just for going to film school? Aren't 90% of our film makers films school graduates? I'm just throwing out that percentage, but I gotta think the majority of them DID go through film school...that's not to say J. Doe doesn't deserve the spanking he got...when most everyone acknowledges a film as gold (the way most people do Halloween) I wouldn't use a film school education as what gives you insight into what we all missed. I totally understand why Universal would give this to Sommers. When they make critical hits like BABE II, ONE TRUE THING and OUT OF SIGHT, everyone gets fired. When MUMMY gets made, careers are saved.
Film schools are for schmucks with too much money, use your mone by paragonian	Jun 14th, 1999 02:54:50 PM
You guys should see the El Mariachi and Desperado DVD's cause Rodriguez gives some great advice on low budget filmmaking. As I've said in earlier talkbacks, film schools are a leach on the American dream as are screenwriting classes, books and Syd Field. Now that J. Doe has received his forty lashes I hope he realizes what he's up against since once you make it you've gotta keep making it to stay in the game and probably at least half of the people who come to this site want to also be filmmakers, you got a lot of competition and better be damn sure you're good enough. College is good no matter what but don't think that a degree automaticallly gets you in. Cameron, Rodriguez, Kubrick, Tarantino, none of them went to film school. Be prepared for a career as either a critic, entertainment journalist or an angry, disgruntled, bitter talkbacker on AICN which a lot of these guys are.
Paragonian is right, and I'll admit it by Rodzilla	Jun 14th, 1999 03:04:29 PM

My, hasn't Carpenter been thrashed in this talkback... by marvelluis	Jun 14th, 1999 03:04:37 PM
It's easy to trash Carpy, because he hasn't made monumental films. But he hasn't been acknowledged for nothing. Even "The Thing" has had its effect on films. it was only a minor hit for Universal,but it kicked off the eighties craze for graphic text book gore. Halloween kicked off the whole slasher craze after the hysteria of "Psycho" had gone sour.And how many memorable anti-heroes were there before Plisskin? The fact of the matter is that although none of his films are bonafide classics, it doesn't mean he doesn't have good films on hisn C.V. Your forgetting that that S. Sommers got $70m to make deep rising and $80m for mummy, with a miserable adaptation of Huck Finn and The Jungle Book behind him. How much money has Carpy ever had thrown at him despite the success of Halloween and the relative popularity of the thing? On top of this, he loves his genre and will go with any small budget to get his films made. So he's gone a shit phase? So fucking what? How much crap did Spielberg make before Jurassic Park and Schindler's List. Mark my words: the hour of the Carpenter is coming soon...
i kind of agree with paragonian. but.... by j. doe	Jun 14th, 1999 03:21:26 PM
while i do think film school is a waste of time and money, its alse four years that i dont actually have to worry about going out into the "real world" and four years that i can use to develop my writing and directing skills. if i do like you said and made a movie with the money that was paying for film school, i'd come out with a mediocre film that looks like shit. buuuuuut, if i wait until i'm out of school and i've actually had hands-on trining, been tought by people who have made films and can give me advice on how to get me film made and whatnot, and know people that can help with my film, i just might make the next big thing. and i still think john carpenter sucks.
CREATURE REMAKE :WHY NOT 3-D!!! by Reel Angry	Jun 14th, 1999 03:27:40 PM
Regardless who remakes this film (if at all) why not shoot it in some current 3-D format? I'm not saying IMAX 3-D (I doubt Universal would ever spring for it) but this would certainely bolster the box-office. With some degree of print quality control and exhibition and a good scripit and direction one of the all-time great looking movie monsters would make a killing at the box-office. Before we all bestow directing honors on Carpenter who I'm sure would make a good film lets not overlook John Landis. Yes he's had a very mixed-bag but this just might be a carrer saver. Beside's he once planned on producing a remake and promised a slew of monster types from the Black Lagoon.
to my adoring fans.... by j. doe	Jun 14th, 1999 03:34:17 PM
"pussy" huh? ohh, thats original. your skills as a filmmaker are evident in your writing. im not going to bother with a long-winded response because i really have no desire to get into a name calling match. but i leave you with this: if little 'ol me can rile you up this much, i wonder how you're going to feel when critics trash your film (that is, if you ever get one made). just something to think about. have a nice day.
Paragonian is right, and I'll admit it!!! by Rodzilla	Jun 14th, 1999 03:38:46 PM
Paragonian got me really laughing. His statement is laser accurate. I am an ex-English major, film geek would-be film maker. I made all those no-budget 8MM films, bought all the screenwriting books and wrote several screenplays. I got an agent and entered numerous screenwriting contests. I did pretty well in most of them, but never won any kind of grand prize ( i.e. I never made a dime!) Guess what? Nobody gave a shit! So I became a local film critic and entertainment journalist!!! Now I'm a bitter talkback joker, and still nobody gives a shit! The truth is out there! About film school, also, Paragonian is correct. Most of the directors, writers and executives coming up today went to film school. This wasn't true 15 or 20 years ago, and most of our greatest film makers were self taught. Film school WILL NOT make you a better director. It is very expensive and not much in the way of grants is available, so mostly rich kids get to go (at least to the REAL film schools). This keeps the poor out of Hollywood and the rich in, just like its always been. Film school is very important, though, in the area that is really the most crucial element in Hollywood! Contacts. You can make contacts and build relationships that will help you get your foot in the door. Hollywood is the nepotism capital of the world, and knowing someone or being "tight" with someone speaks volumes more than a good script ( they've got too many of those anyway--which they're gonna rewrite anyway) or a sample film. As far as learning goes, I suggest getting as many laser discs and DVDs with director commentaries as possible. You can learn volumes by listening to the actual directors (not teachers you are PAYING) talk about their films. Listen to commentaries from directors and films you DON'T like!!! You can learn as much from that as listening to directors and films you love. Since we're talking about John Carpenter, seek out his commentary on the Criterion "Halloween" laserdisc. It's like film school in a box. One last thing: something you can learn from my experience. DON'T EVER, EVER pay anyone anything to review, edit or read your script or student film. There is an entire industry out there that only exists because there are so many film geek, would-be writers and directors out there. They are not there to help you. They earn a living off people like you. They may have no connection to the film business at all. They just take your money and the money of everyone like you while they pursue their own film making goals. This includes but is not limited to screenwriting books, film schools, screenwriting classes and seminars, agents and "independent" producers.
Peoples'Poet: Remake - Fucking get over it! by Phr33k0uT	Jun 14th, 1999 03:44:51 PM
_The_Mummy_ was a remake. Live with it. Cinescape said so. Entertainment tonihgt said so. Access Hollywood said so. E! News daily said so. Starlog said so. Shit, even Universal and it's slack assed EP's said it was a remake. The director said it was a remake. Get your head out of your ass and read.
Who goes there? by Emery	Jun 14th, 1999 08:36:29 PM
Yeah, I screwed up with the "halt" bit. But Carpenter still sorta sucks ass, and you "Halt! Josh" (hope I got that right) sorta ignored the point. Hey, I'll bet yer real proud that you quit reading and all because you found one error. I'll bet you go out and get yer self a nice t-shirt ta celebrate. :) Obviously I never read the novella oe any science fiction at all. I mean if I had the title would have been there deeply emblazoned in my brain a full seven and half years later ready for effortless and 100% accurate recall at 11:00 pm after a days sunday overtime. Yep. Unless John Carpenter's celluloid crapola did some damage to my grey matter. Clearly I'm still struggling with Star Trek novels, and the occasional Dragon Lance spin off when I feel like facing a heavy intellectual challenge. Or maybe you're a goober who'd rather kick feebly at a straw man than do anything that might validly defend the lame, stink-o-vision b-movie croodilings of Good old JC. And that's...okay. (Boy, that's a long sentence up there! ) No, I don't hate JC, I just think he sorta sucks ass.( As a film maker) It's not his fault. God put him here to sorta suck ass. It's his Dharma.(Look it up it's in "Halt! the Mahabarata" Someday a future incarnation of Joe Bob Briggs will probably make a fortune promoting such edgy masterpieces of terror as "Halt! The Fog" and "Halt! The Creature from the Black Lagoon: a cool as hell geek approved orgy of VHS triviality!(Read Godzilla II: pointless and undeserved idolatry does matter!)" So anyway sleep well, I love each and every one of you, except those of you in film school. See ya in science fiction school Josh. Maybe we can meet after for some Taco Bell and slurpies after "Not reading any further when you don't want to see a crappy yet mysteriously beloved director besmirched" class. This is all in fun of course, and more or less for my own ego. Or not. Halt! GLOSSARY: CROODILINGSoodlings...a new word provided for your enjoyment courtesy of http://www.newwords.com (Not to be confused with "croodilingus")
Emery: by Josh Acid	Jun 14th, 1999 09:20:28 PM
This time I stopped reading when you said you'd never read the story. I thought you had just made an error in remembering the title, so I made asses of both of us with my comment. If you've never read it, how do you know whether or not either version of THE THING lived up to it? I stop reading a comment the moment credibility flies out the window.
Hey Phr33kouT, kiss my headfilled ass! by gary2012	Jun 14th, 1999 09:21:21 PM
Oh man! Access Hollywood? E! News Daily? Entertainment Tonight? Well if THEY SAY SO! I wouldn't want my opinion to conflict with such credible sources! -end sarcasm- Read?! Fuck you ass hole. I probably spend more time reading than you spen breathing. I also probably spend more time on the crapper than you do thinking for yourself (hey, maybe those two are related.) I don't give a fuck if Universal says that it is a remake, that doesn't make it so. By your standards I could make a film about a new monkey rotating device and its' newspaper owning inventors attempt to pattent it and just call it Citizen Kane. As enjoyable as that story might be simply naming it Citizen Kane doesn't make it a remake, even if I own the rights to the original. I suggest that you start to think for yourself, and use your brain to INTERPRET the information, and disinformation that you gather, rather than just spewing out the bullshit that you have allowed them to forcefeed you. I also highly suggest that you get some better sources for your information than sensationalist second hand gossip mongers like Access Hollywood and E! News Daily. Me? I'll keep my head up my ass, but I'll do myself a favor, and shove a good book up there to read.
i got no problem with that at all, motherfucker by j. doe	Jun 15th, 1999 03:49:17 AM
yeah, i relized the error of saying that about ten seconds after i pushed "send." but hey, it was about 5 am, i was tired as fuck, and as far as im concerned...so what? As far as carpenter is concerned...i simply cannot find much to celebrate in his films, especially not Halloween. I didnt find it (or any other knife-kill films, for that matter) scary. does that mean im too young to appreciate it? hell no. i think Night of the Living Dead is the scariest movie ever made, and that came a good 12 years before Halloween. The age of the viewer or the film doesnt mean anything, only how well made the film was. And besides he also made Vampires, which i concider to be the WORSE film ever made. anyone who makes a movie that bad so far into his career...well, what more can i say when the movie makes his "talents" (or lack thereof) evidently clear. At least Sommers' The Jungle Book was decent. and i realize that Deep Rising and The Mummy aren't freaking Kurasowa, but they are higly entertaining. and that is exactly the reason i watch and make movies, to watch and entertain. if that means blowing shit up or fucking with someone's head, so be it, but the simple fact is, Sommers entertains me, and Carpenter doesnt.
Mummy is still a remake by Gothmog	Jun 15th, 1999 05:57:00 AM
Sorry, Peoples' Poet, but Mummy is still a remake. Universal set out to make a remake - forget what the fluff media says - just check the official Mummy webpage which calls it - "A full-scale re-imagining of Universal Pictures' seminal 1932 film." To me, "re-imagining" is code for "re-make" - granted, they've altered a number of elements, but if the story at its core is the same as the original, it's a remake. Both movies can be summarized by saying "Ancient Egyptian priest (Imhotep) is cursed and mummified. The Mummy is awakened in the 1920s by an expedition. Mummy stops at nothing to be reunited with his old love. Hilarity ensues." So if I discard anything I've seen in the media and think for myself, as you suggest, I see, at the core, a re-made movie. Yes, it's a fairly "loose" interpretation of the original, but I don't think it's so far off base to disqualify it as a remake.
Peoples'Poet: You're a funny little man. Have a cookie. by Phr33k0uT	Jun 16th, 1999 10:02:02 AM
Peoples'Poet: You really do have your head up your pathetic little ass, don't you? Otherwise you would have actually read the fucking postings instead of glancing at them. I didn't say I listen to them, moron, I said they called it a remake, hence it is a god damn remake. I saw the fucking film, and you know what? It looked like a shitty remake. Did you see it? Well, probably not, you have your head up your ass. How's the view? GothMog: Good, someone who knows what he's talking about.
But Anaconda had Jon Voight being quaffed by a snake! by Wolfpack	Aug 2nd, 2006 08:35:35 AM

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