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David Goyer Freaks Out Beaks with THE UNBORN!

testing 1 2 3 by xega	Jul 28th, 2008 02:05:37 AM
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just to rob people of the satisfaction... by blckmgk13	Jul 28th, 2008 02:05:54 AM
...now to read the article
a green type of tube by Rupee88	Jul 28th, 2008 02:29:35 AM
maybe 10% of mofos will get that..or maybe 5%.
yeah the next Batman movie will be very anticlimactic by Rupee88	Jul 28th, 2008 02:35:22 AM
This one had Batman's best arch enemy and also Heath Ledger. What are they going to do next? The Penguin? The Riddler? No matter what they do or how cool it is, it will still pale by comparison. Maybe that's a good problem to have. Anyway, DK is way overrated but still a pretty good movie so I give them props for that.
Goyer still hasn't won me over. by iamnicksaicnsn	Jul 28th, 2008 02:38:13 AM
The less he had to do with the writing of any Batman was clearly for the better. Have we forgotten Blade 3? I heard The Invisible was awful. And Threshold was such a waste of Brent Spiner.
this movie sounds pretty crazy by Neil_the_Sheep	Jul 28th, 2008 02:49:16 AM
...and you can tell he's excited about it...that's good...I like that. I think a 3rd batman movie would be great if they could use the joker...and if you thought reinventing the Joker into this movie was incredible...it would take a freaking miracle to buy someone else doing a Heath Ledger doing the Joker impression...I agree with Rupee...it's hard to imagine the next batman flick topping this last one
Ha rupee 88 by messi	Jul 28th, 2008 02:53:11 AM
aren't you one of the guys who wanted a perma white joker and a cloth suited batman. stick to the cartoons cunt.
iamnicksaicnsn by messi	Jul 28th, 2008 02:53:44 AM
"I heard The Invisible was awful." Get a mind of your own dumbfuck.
3rd Batman movie should feature a gay villain. by Boomers_Lips	Jul 28th, 2008 02:54:24 AM
that turns straight people into evil gays and it's up to Batman to stop him! B-3 will be produced by Focus on the Family.
Didn't Goyer.. by VegasRon	Jul 28th, 2008 03:07:16 AM
...write and direct Blade 3? Seriously, how can you fuck up Ryan Reynolds and Jessica Biel as vampire hunters? Even Parker Posey was wasted...
Exorcism movies sucked since... by m_reporter	Jul 28th, 2008 03:16:46 AM
... The Exorcist, which started it all. It's the only really good movie that's dealing with this subject that I can think of. With that said, Goyer never struck me as a good filmmaker. Didn't like a single movie he was attached to until Batman Begins. And even with that, I feel that the best parts of BB and TDK are coming from the Nolans.
Goyer script for Batnab Begins was terrible by IndustryKiller!	Jul 28th, 2008 03:17:18 AM
And the fact that the Dark knight is fucking incredible and improves upon Begins in every facet just magnifies that. I mean talk about making an implicit theme VERY explicit. You could play a drinking game watching begins wherein you drink every time someone says the word fear and you would be dead of alcohol poisoning in half an hour. I fucking get it Goyer, he's using fear, enough already. Not only that but the origin was badly mishandled. Bruce Wayne spending what looked like a month in three different weak ass sparring sessions followed by a silly game to top it off does not a Batman make. He's supposed to trains for YEARS under different styles and different mental techniques sharpening his mind and body into what eventually becomes the greatest human mind and body on Earth. Goyers version was pathetically underdeveloped and unbelieveable. not to mention he completely writes off both the Scarecrow and Ras Al ghul, two incredible villains, into yet another underdeveloped (notice a pattern?) "plot of the week" serial.
Batnab or Batman, whatever by IndustryKiller!	Jul 28th, 2008 03:18:29 AM
Goyer can probably type a lot better than I can, I'll certainly give him that.
Just remembered Dark City by m_reporter	Jul 28th, 2008 03:21:16 AM
That was a good little film.
Damn messi, you're an incredible fucktard. by iamnicksaicnsn	Jul 28th, 2008 04:15:52 AM
If I hear from enough people that I respect that a movie is shitty then I'm not going to watch it. Are you seriously defending the shit he's put out? Wait... are you David Goyer?
Ohhh by Mezzanine	Jul 28th, 2008 04:17:42 AM
Mentions of MOTHMAN PROPHECIES, SESSION 9, and EXORCISM OF EMILY ROSE as the tone you're going for? I am fucking in. Beaks, I hope that the footage that you saw is as good as you have made it sound because this movie just went from being not on my radar at all to the "must see" list. And PS, I am listening to the Silent Hill soundtracks right now, so I am in a goood and creepy mood.
Rupee by YeahSureWhatever	Jul 28th, 2008 06:20:07 AM
Proper Modulation
Weird premise... by Darkman	Jul 28th, 2008 07:51:54 AM
...but it just might work. And THE INVISIBLE was perfectly bearable until it flew off the rails with that horribly ill-advised 'see you next Tuesday and the guy she beat half to death falling in love' angle. That bullshit MUST'VE been studio-imposed.
I don't owe Goyer anything! by Knuckleface	Jul 28th, 2008 09:00:22 AM
The man gets a "story by" credit on one good movie for basically having a one night conversation about comic books with Christopher Nolan, and now I "owe" him my attention. No. Sorry Beaks. A hack who keeps good company is still a hack.
Have to agree, Goyer hasn't really shown me anything by Drunken Rage	Jul 28th, 2008 09:06:19 AM

Indris Cold... by b15fliptop	Jul 28th, 2008 09:07:42 AM
was the creepy phone call guy in Mothman Prophecies. Not sure why I remember that, other than I was a bit creeped out by that part as well. That could have been a good movie. Ah well...
Pondscum by Drunken Rage	Jul 28th, 2008 09:07:42 AM
Terrific "Ace the Bat-Dog" reference. Maybe the next one will have Bat-Mite, too.
$500 million possible? it's a guarantee by BadMrWonka	Jul 28th, 2008 09:42:48 AM
the question is whether it can beat Titanic...crossing fingers! wouldn't we all love to have Dark Knight in the record books for highest box office gross of all time rather than Titanic?
Beating TITANIC? Nope..though I hope by Sequitur	Jul 28th, 2008 10:02:46 AM
I wish it could, but it doesnt have the Romance/Teenage Girl or Little Kid factor to insure repeat viewings
Shia "The Beef" by fishpillow	Jul 28th, 2008 10:32:45 AM
just got a DUI!!! Bwa-HA HA HA HA
beating Titanic isnt that far fetched by Bouncy X	Jul 28th, 2008 10:37:53 AM
its already made in 9 days what it took Iron Man and Indy months to reach...so if its at 314 million now, imagine a month from now. not saying it will but it definately has a shot.
necgray by CreasyBear	Jul 28th, 2008 11:16:09 AM
I see your point, but relative to Iron Man or Spider-Man, the themes in The Dark Knight are more serious, profound and, for lack of a better word, dark. I don't think he was comparing it to anything other than the typical superhero movies. (Even so, maybe "brutal" is a little too strong.)
Joker better be back in the third movie by Judge Briggs	Jul 28th, 2008 11:34:36 AM
Not Batman without him!
David Goyer is a hack, making invisible man over Magneto by ganymede3010	Jul 28th, 2008 12:06:12 PM
Marvel should remove this franchise from him immediately. He keeps delaying the project because he wants to make bullshit horror movies and the invisible man. Magneto should be a priority, you have a golden egg in your hand and you're to moronic to see it. Judging by your Blade films you will do the character no justice, give to someone who'll actually prioritize this project.
All this talk about a third Batman...... by connor187	Jul 28th, 2008 12:13:41 PM
The thing is people talk about TDK not having a set up for a third movie like Begins did, but I think The end of the TDK more than sets up a third. Look! no way can Nolan leave Gotham in the state it is, at the end of TDK. Its a fucking mess. Batmans running from the police again and alot of people are dead. So were do we go from here I hear you ask? Well for starters give Nolan as much money as he wants to do a third (even though I know it isnt money that motivates him) Second, use The Joker again. I know for a fact Nolan and co will have scraped certain scenes he shot of The Joker for TDK. Use these if you can and if not manipulate them so you can, if not hire another actor to do the voice in the shadows of a cell in Arkham Asylum. Which villan would I use for the third? easy, The Riddler. I would have the Riddler almost send Batman insane in the movie, insane to the point that he has to visit the Joker in Arkham to ask for help to bring him down, a kind of Silence of the Lambs plot if you will.........Oh and by the way if they use this, I want fucking paying, in full I might add.
There's no world outside America, huh... by half vader	Jul 28th, 2008 12:20:33 PM
Bouncy, it hasn't got a hope in hell. Titanic made over 600 in the U.S., and 1.25 FUCKING BILLION in the rest of the world. So about 1.8 billion all up. And that's for a 3 and a half hour movie on less screens. And how much did tickets cost 11 years ago compared to now? And how much did it make from Imax tickets costing nearly double? That's right. I love how the vast majority of posts think the U.S. is the world. Even for your average flick it's an even split, ranging to a bit more for O.S. than U.S. Superhero movies usually do worse O.S. than American domestic if you're looking for patterns, but I don't think that will happen here. I don't think any of us expected a hard-core (in terms of being fairly yes, brutal compared to your average hero film and definitely non-popcorn) superhero movie would do this. Hey, I loved DK much more than Titanic, but just being realistic. But if this does 1.8 billion I'll let you watch while I eat my hat.
Actually I think it was over 3 hours by half vader	Jul 28th, 2008 12:23:15 PM
but under 3&1/2. Point still stands.
Necgray by half vader	Jul 28th, 2008 12:24:13 PM
The only reason I think they got away with pg13 was because they COULDN'T give it a higher rating, rulewise. No swearing, pretty much bloodless, no necksnapping sound effects etc. Nolan was pretty canny.
PG13 by König Lear	Jul 28th, 2008 03:40:04 PM
"Brutality" is defined in the Oxford American Dictionary as "savagely violent." Does that adjective necessarily denote disembowelment? No, although certainly the term "savage" has had its own elastic use over the centuries. The Dark Knight is more suggestive in its brutality, in that we do not, for instance, get to see a pencil entering an eyeball, the man rolling around on the floor in agony, etc.. But is that really necessary? PG13 was sufficient for the brutality in this film. The brutality in a period film based on legends of ancient European warfare, however, would probably require something closer to an R (unless you're Robert Zemeckis), because "savage" in that context would have a different meaning.
Titanic had 6 months to cash in... by Knuckleface	Jul 28th, 2008 05:05:48 PM
There's one reason Titanic won't be bested, at least by TDK. -Titanic had no competition-. It came out at Christmas and with all the oscar buzz, it stayed vital through April. January through early May is clearing house season for Hollywood's worst movies, so there was nothing else in the theaters to see or to get excited about. Titanic also benefited from history because it was released just one year before the internet went mainstream. These days, information travels so quickly that a 3 week theater run seems like a lifetime. I mean, doesn't it feel like WALL*E came out months ago???
Dammit, The Invisible was a GOOD movie! by Nasty In The Pasty	Jul 28th, 2008 10:15:19 PM
My review: http://www.dvdinmypants.com/re views/H-N/invisible.php
Sounds like Rusty and Jonas Venture Jr. by Curtis Spicoli	Jul 29th, 2008 12:43:49 AM
Only not as funny. All kidding aside, this sounds cool.
Goyer still got the skills. And YES to ODETTE. by halberd	Jul 29th, 2008 01:06:07 AM
I believe in him, just not behind the camera as much. Didn't see The Invisible but that will change soon enough, and I always believed in second/third chances for hopefuls... Goyer is better at the framing and pacing of stories as he obviously works better as a screenwriter. But to address the actress... it's about time because I've been waiting for an update on The Unborn, partially for my craving of more Odette Yustman-onscreen time. I mean she's like the sister Mandy Moore never had and that's always good on the eyes.
Cassandra Nova by oisin5199	Jul 29th, 2008 01:57:33 PM
Did Goyer read Grant Morrison's whole Cassandra Nova plotline in his X-Men run (brought back by Joss in Astonishing)? She's Xavier's evil twin, who fought Xavier in utero and lost, but comes back with a vengeance. Sounds a lot like this.

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