And Bell's been a fixture at ComicCon the past 3-4 years, whether to promote Veronica Mars or Fanboys (which looks like it's being released THIS September, and the original version).

At this point, I want her to have a "Claude out", as in the possibility of coming back down the road. But I fear Elle is going to be Sylar'd like so many others have before. And then I'll bid the show adieu and bide my time until BSG 4.5 in January.

Heroes is one of the biggest disappointments in television history; A show with amazing potential, but it Always. Misses. The. Mark.

I was a big supporter of this show before Season One's dismal failure of a climax. I was a hopeful supporter of the show during Season Two, but that soon turned to disgust as they missed many great opportunities, wedged in characters I really couldn't give a shit about, and squandered every ounce of coolness Hiro and Peter had earned on silly, trite plotlines that shoved them into the background, or just made them acting like fucking morons.

I think half of us in Talkback could have written a better season two, and we most certainly could have written a better ending to season one.

And I bet I know the biggest reason this show has turned to a dismal pile of suck: The budget. They purposely avoid confrontations between characters because they don't want to blow money on special effects.

It says a lot when the formerly cheap-ass BBC is spending a shit-ton on effects for the formerly cheap-looking Doctor Who (and thus resuscitating it into their top show), and NBfuckingC can't be bothered to pony up the cash to give us a decent super-power fight for the season finale of their then-biggest new hit show.

There's nothing wrong with doing the Star Trek/Hunt for Red October trick where the actors speak English but it's implied that it's been translated from the character's native language. Hell-- This is how comic books do it, too. They don't print Japanese and then put subtitles on each panel.

It's not about "dumbing down" the show. It's about not alienating the primary audience and taking their eyes off the actors' faces for the majority of the show. When you're featuring SO MANY different languages (English, Gaelic, Japanese, Spanish, so far) you have to expect that this will mean your audience will be looking at the bottom of the screen in any of those scenes.

Another consideration with television as opposed to movies: Local stations and networks have fucking watermarks, scrolls, messages, and other crap at the bottom of the screen, and it's pretty fucking inconsiderate to make us read a crucial scene's dialogue when the chances are high that we'll miss it because it's being covered by some advertisement, news flash, or Amber Alert.

TV is not conducive to subtitles.

It's less elegant than the TARDIS, but it fits Heroes' lameness.

My man, push away from the computer, grab some fresh air it will do you some good. Getting this bent over a mediocre TV show isn't worth it.

Oh by the way, I'm fluent in Spanish and found the fact they were speaking Spanish with subtitles annoying as shit. Its a show for a predominantly English speaking audiences just have them speak English. Like others have pointed out, make some bullshit up to cover the translation.

VegasRon long time no see.

I'll give this season a go but its on a very short leash for me. Any stench wafting off of it that reeks of season two, then I'm done.

Yes Pennsy this is Xiphos. Things are well and you?

These spoilers we're reading here -- they don't impress me much, not because I think they're bad. But each plot spoiler suggests to me that there will be a lot of narrative set-up involved that will be stretched out across several episodes, which will ultimately lead to climaxes/conflicts that will be underwhelming and disappointing.

A third problem is that the writers don't know how to write compelling stuff for the hot female characters. They don't really know what to do with them (Claire, Jessica/Nikki, Elle, Maya). Yes, they have done a lot of stuff with Jessica/Nikki, but when you look back at everything, not much adds up satisfyingly about her.

Yeah, that's all I need to hear.

Heroes already sucks enough without the Buffyverse writers totally turning it to runny dogshit.

Fuck. If you're going to give it to someone else, give it to Rob Zombie. He'll make it fucking interesting, at least. And maybe we'll get to see his wife half-naked again.

And please, get over the whining about Apple and iTunes. It's the dominant video/audio distribution system now. It has been for years. DEAL WITH IT. Complaining about iTunes based on not liking Apple is like complaining about watching "Sarah Connor Chronicles" on FOX, because they're related to FOX NEWS. If you're going to boycott something, then go after Viacom and their subsidiaries; Not Apple. Viacom is the company that's going to fuck up the Internet (and your privacy) but good if they get their way.

Then you could go outside, get some fresh air maybe some sunlight and perhaps a large dose of Midol or a fresh tampon. The one your using is full.

Good news, perhaps; I've heard from several folks in the TV Without Pity message boards that KB will be in the second episode. So that's something to look forward to. Sylar now pretty much being invincible stealing Claire's regeneration power...not so much.

Fucking fanboy.

I was there in the back road...there was a LOT of clapping and hurrahing.

Being a man of lesiure is AWESOME! I highly recommend you try it some day if you're able. The help brings me my food, I play a vigorous round of tennis, followed by some skeet shooting then a nap. After that I hit the Party circuit in the Hamptons.

My man I apologize for calling you a cunt that one was a tad too much. I stand by the rest though you do whine quite a bit.

A well done story is gonna get eyes on the screen.

As long as Batman comics LOOK badass, the fanboys will buy them and declare Batman the coolest motherfucker in the world.

Of course, I'm not giving a pass to Marvel here, either. I'm still fucking pissed off over the whole "Brand New Day" fuck-over. I can deal with them making Mary Jane and Peter "not married", but making his identity secret again, bring Harry back from death, and turning Pete into the juvenile, down-on-his-luck fuck-up he was in the fucking 1970s was not a welcomed change... But I know what was going through Marvel and Joe Q's heads: They wanted to get the comic in line with the Sony movie franchise to appease people who hadn't been reading the damn book for the past 30 years.

WTG fucknuts. You've alienated the core audience, and picked up a bunch of lookiloos that will stop reading the book after their initial curiosity wears off.

At least Secret Invasion doesn't suck as much as Final Crisis.

I know a LOT of Heroes fans couldn't get in because of the Lost fans. I don't blame the Lost fans for not being as enthusiastic.

But the Heroes fans that WERE there were enthusiastic about it. The haters were there to hate. Or watch Lost. Some were there for both.

And I maintain tht they were more enthusiastic when they left than when they went in.

About Riptide, I commend the writers of the show for including the old Sikorsky S-58T helo as the third character, the screaming mimi. How can you not like a pink painted helo with a fierce grimmace and fangs on its nose piece?

the first problem with the season is the opposite problem with last season. Whereas 2 moved too slow, this is moving way too fast. Any sort of development of characters and story went so quickly it just seemed stupid and cheesy.

Another problem, again I guess related to the speed of the pace, was the acting. If you rush everything, you give the actors shitty lines, and they WILL say those lines as good as they can get, which equals garbage. The only really good line was Sylar's eating brain's comment.

Another obvious mistake was bringing back Ali Larter, and even Nathan Patrelli. If no one dies, there is absolutely NO fear and no dread.

It was retarded of future-Peter to put present-Peter in a cell next to Claire's dad, but I guess that will lead to them breaking out. Besides, if Peter was so powerful, why couldn't he just use his powers to escape?

What else... Oh, the Hiro stuff in the office sucked balls. How lame do you have to get: "I don't want to just sit here and wait for my destiny!" *knock on door* Someone hands Hiro a package. "He says this package is a message from my father, and it is my destiny!"

I also was offended that the ENTIRE panel was one big commercial for Heroes as opposed to being an actual panel where we get to actually talk to them, but I guess the elevator can be blamed for that...

Oh, and when Hiro meets the Flash-Girl, the fact that AGAIN he just gets punched in the face and meanders off, when we just spent an entire season with him in the past learning to become a samurai, you'd think he'd learn a thing or two about fighting. At least when someone says "you're going to be on the floor" You'd think he'd realize that he's about to get his dumb-ass knocked out. Which is exactly what happened. I mean, fucking hell.

Actually watching the video that NBC has up, I can tell why you thought why you thought you did. From the back there was a lot more cheering going on, but maybee I was surrounded by Hero fanatics. It wasn't like it was an overwhelming "OMFG" like Watchmen. But it wasn't the "rejection" of the materials as is being painted. I think the best thing to say that people are "cautiously optimistic"

Hiro's stuff was prime Hiro stuff, what can I say... He's a bit more humorous than other characters.

But for me, personally, I saw it on par with some of the weaker episodes of season one and some of the better episodes of season 2. What I liked about it was the fact that they hit the ground running.

As iamnicksaicnsn mentioned, it has potential...which is something that the season two opener seems to have lacked.

Out of curiosity-did eveyone hate ALL of season two? I personally thought-once Matt faced his father, the series picked up great amount of steam.