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Randman?
by JRcanReid
Jul 25th, 2008
07:44:45 PM
Is that you? First.
Ha!
by fiester
Jul 25th, 2008
07:44:54 PM
This is such bullshit. Being an astrolad does not excuse one from being a New Age loonie.

News flash: There are no aliens.

If those aliens met Heidi Montag and Spencer Pratt,
by Pennsy
Jul 25th, 2008
07:44:59 PM
they'd have every right to nuke the world to make way for a hyperspace bypass ($1 to Hitchhikers' Guide to the Galaxy).
Ain't It Cool Blog
by Loosejerk
Jul 25th, 2008
07:45:10 PM
Jeez
Grant Morrison was RIGHT!
by O_Goncho
Jul 25th, 2008
07:48:08 PM
They're here, and they're in our funny books.
Who conducted the interview?
by Cannabis Holocaust
Jul 25th, 2008
07:49:12 PM
its true!
by hey...jonboy
Jul 25th, 2008
07:50:50 PM
and then after the alien flew overhead, he waved to it.
If aliens with advanced technology....
by Premiere Warlord Bush
Jul 25th, 2008
07:52:18 PM
...Wanted to reveal themselves to humanity, I doubt there would be shit our dysfunctional government could do about it.
I'm gonna ask em
by The Brains
Jul 25th, 2008
07:53:32 PM
if I can borrow 100,000 pounds. I'll pay it back honest.
If they reveal themselves before December
by TheNorthlander
Jul 25th, 2008
07:53:48 PM
It will be great press for When the Earth Stood Still.
From the space between spaces
by The Brains
Jul 25th, 2008
07:54:42 PM
Too Jewish?
So, The Day The Earth Stood Still viral marketing has begun then
by MaxCalifornia.
Jul 25th, 2008
07:55:41 PM

by djtelesca
Jul 25th, 2008
07:56:10 PM
He apparently had a real interest in the paranormal, going back quite a ways: http://en.wikipedia.or g/wiki/Edgar_Mitche ll#Other_interests
What Would Carl Sagan Do?
by Philselway
Jul 25th, 2008
07:57:20 PM
I'd like to know the source of the interview before
by Cannabis Holocaust
Jul 25th, 2008
07:58:21 PM
I share this with everyone. Because without a source there's no way to be 100% sure this isn't a hoax put on by someone pretending to be Dr. Mitchell.
You know people who say there is "no debate" over global warming
by JackIsLost
Jul 25th, 2008
07:58:41 PM
that's what this sounds like to me. UFO Sightings = Global Warming = Rubbish.
Jackislost
by Philselway
Jul 25th, 2008
08:00:59 PM
Wow. UFO Belief and Belief in Global Warming are equal? I've got a bridge to sell you!
This better be false or we
by TheNorthlander
Jul 25th, 2008
08:02:14 PM
SWEEET!
by StrokerX
Jul 25th, 2008
08:02:24 PM
This is awesome...listening to it now....always hoped i was alive when we found out. WE ARE NOT ALONE! lol
when will he be on coast to coast am
by bacci40
Jul 25th, 2008
08:02:32 PM
cuz im getting tired of chupa cabra stories
I just realized something.
by TheNorthlander
Jul 25th, 2008
08:07:27 PM
Yeah if something like this turned out true it would really mess with all religions and they'd all have to update their backstories a bit, but let's forget that for a moment and focus on what's important in life.

Let's say, aliens land on earth and reveal themselves. That would completely fuck up sci-fi movies forever. Never again could we make movies like The Day The Earth Stood Still or ID4 or V or Battlefield Earth.

If something like that happened, as soon as we're gonna make a sci-fi movie it would have to include them as well. Same with Terminator movies. How would the alien race living on earth fit in with Skynet taking over earth?

It wouldn't make any sense at all!
Joe Elliott
by HEADGEEK
Jul 25th, 2008
08:08:50 PM
bull shit
that is mitchell and apparently he went insane years ago
by bacci40
Jul 25th, 2008
08:09:27 PM
there are tons of vids of him talking about et on youtube...of course, he provides no credible evidence for what he is saying, other then himself...and he is a nutjob...i hear mccain is picking him as vp
joe elliot
by bacci40
Jul 25th, 2008
08:11:36 PM
so harry should do this for free? want to pay a fee to come here and spew bs? he sells ad space...always has...big whoop...he still would kiss ass to the entertainment types even without the ad space, cuz he loves chocalate pussy juice
The government can't hide a blowjob, let alone aliens.
by Flim Springfield
Jul 25th, 2008
08:18:03 PM
Seriously Joe Elliot
by Stifler's Mom
Jul 25th, 2008
08:18:45 PM
COVERED by ads? no, not really. dont come round here if that's your attitude.
hahaha
by wontyouletmeknow.
Jul 25th, 2008
08:19:06 PM
nice harry. nice.
What would make them more advanced than us?
by terry1978
Jul 25th, 2008
08:19:13 PM
Because they're unknown, we always assume their technology is light years ahead, but what if they're just stuck in the same developmental rut we've been in for the past decade or so? No flying cars, no Jetsons shit whatsoever, sans the moving walkways.
RIP Randy Pausch (last lecturer)
by Bobo_Vision
Jul 25th, 2008
08:25:28 PM
I first heard about Randy in an article on AICN, the guy who had pancreatic cancer and gave his "last lecture" which became somewhat of a phenomenon. I watched it and was pretty inspired. Well, he just passed. I figured this would be a suitable article to mention his name.
So An Astronaut Says Aliens Are Real And That Gives The Argument
by georges garvaren
Jul 25th, 2008
08:25:36 PM
Form is False no matter the shape, size or planet it may be from. If a species with an intelligence greater than that of the humans race wanted to be know do you people really think the American fucking government could keep them from making their presence painfully obvious? Folks, you are dreaming. Wake up before you piss the bed.
Dr. Edgar Mitchell and his Weird Experiments
by Xoom
Jul 25th, 2008
08:27:37 PM
He's been doing ESP and other weird experiments since becoming an astronaut. He left NASA to research and develop theories about science and the supernatural co-existing. http://xoomthetruth.blogspot.c om/2008/07/dr-edgar-mitchell.h tml
terry1978
by cutest_of_borg
Jul 25th, 2008
08:28:39 PM
Ummm...I don't know...maybe because THEY'VE JOURNEYED UNTOLD LIGHT YEARS TO GET HERE! That feat alone makes them far more advanced.
Larry King Live UFO Debate
by rookie116
Jul 25th, 2008
08:32:10 PM
Really Really Awesome stuff. Quite possibly the best larry king live session i've ever watched. Bill Nye the science guy gets his ass handed to him in this vid too. http://youtube.com/watch?v=Rwi OHRRbNl0
The real life "The Thing"
by dirtsandwich
Jul 25th, 2008
08:33:18 PM
So how do we know who's human?
Interesting...
by Anti-fanboy
Jul 25th, 2008
08:33:24 PM
Mitchell's been pretty vocal for years. And the government hasn't successfully hidden shit, OBVIOUSLY, or no one would be talking about a cover-up. It's out in the open. There's just never been any official public disclosure, which your average Joe needs for it to suddenly be real.
wow, Bacci..others, you guys are suckups
by Flying Spaghetti Monster
Jul 25th, 2008
08:34:30 PM
Everyone hates suckups....besides I am the almighty Flying Spaghetti Monster and I didn't create aliens, so they dont exist.
Count Me A Skeptic
by TerryMalloy
Jul 25th, 2008
08:37:58 PM
Astronauts have a tendency to become insane, especially if approaching a black hole.
Say what you want
by RedHHades
Jul 25th, 2008
08:38:19 PM
but I saw an UFO once. The experience was scary... no close encounter though. I swear, I was sober. :/
Almost incomprehensible
by Emperor_was_a_jerk
Jul 25th, 2008
08:42:22 PM
I love this site. I love the learning about all the new movies, comics and TV shows. I wouldn't dream of going anywhere else for my daily geek fix but the writing "style" that Harry (as well as other contributors) use is really tough to read. All the dashes (-) in this article make it almost incomprehensible. I am not trying to be an ass. Really I am not. I would just love to see a more professional, polished and easy to follow writing style. That said, I don't buy ANY of this UFO crap.
cutest_of_borg, you kiss your mother with that mouth?
by terry1978
Jul 25th, 2008
08:45:18 PM
=P
They're Not Aliens...They're our Descendants
by GornPirate
Jul 25th, 2008
08:49:54 PM
Or so I've been told. I had a great uncle who was in Naval intelligence/CIA in WW2/The Cold war era. He told my aunt a few years before he died when one of the UFO specials came on TV he knew for a fact the government knew about UFOs and the "aliens" were not ETs. They were our evolutionary descendants from far in the future. They are here via some kind of time travel basically acting as archeologists studying their primitive ancestors. It might be the ramblings of a senile old man but he was a very serious no nonsense kind of person and had no reason to lie. He never seeked a dime with this story and neither will I.
I saw a UFO once, AND I was drunk and stoned...
by The Dum Guy
Jul 25th, 2008
08:50:31 PM
I really saw one. It was late at night and something flew over my head and I couldn't identify it. Flying + Unindentified + something (object)= UFO.
Odds
by Cobbio
Jul 25th, 2008
08:52:23 PM
I agree with others who've told joeelliott to back off. This site is about as covered with ads as it was ten years ago, which is to say, not terribly covered with them. Give Harry a break.

As for aliens, I think they're out there. The Milky Way contains 100 billion stars, and is only one of the estimated 125 billion (from Nasa.com) out there in the universe. Add in the fact that X-ray telescopes have recently graphed hundreds of water signatures in distant solar systems, indicating a much stronger possibility of life than most scientists were expecting, and I'm onboard the alien train. The odds just have it, though I'm skeptical of whether our government actually does.

Water
by Dave Bowman
Jul 25th, 2008
08:59:03 PM
It's always kind of amusing when someone discovers water somewhere and acts like it's a big surprise. Hydrogen is the most common element in the universe, and oxygen is the third most abundant. Water is a pretty stable compound. The amazing thing would be if water weren't almost everywhere. That would be tough to explain.
terry
by cutest_of_borg
Jul 25th, 2008
08:59:29 PM
I guess shouting is not cool. Sorry. Saw Bigfoot tracks once, btw.
stop ragging on The X-Files!!
by maxwell's hammer
Jul 25th, 2008
09:01:33 PM
Jeepers, Harry, you of all people know not to bad mouth a movie at least until you've seen and formed your own opinion! The movie was really good, and there is this sad and rather unfortunate negative momentum gathering around it, and you're not helping!!
Joe Elliot.
by JimCurry
Jul 25th, 2008
09:03:09 PM
you should be murdered. shut the hell up with your opinions.
What's funny about this coming out now...
by Kirbymanly
Jul 25th, 2008
09:03:56 PM
...is that there is a small clipping regarding this very same subject on Mulder's door in "I Want To Believe". I shit you not.
An Alien wouldn't have to physically be here to visit
by ganymede3010
Jul 25th, 2008
09:12:51 PM
An advanced Alien race would have the technological means to experience earths splendor from a safe distance afar.
Forward
by Cobbio
Jul 25th, 2008
09:13:00 PM
"The amazing thing would be if water weren't almost everywhere [in the universe]." This is true, Dave Bowman. Water is a stable compound and there's lots of hydrogen and oxygen in the universe. Theoretically, we've known this for years. But feedback from the orbiting Chandra X-ray Observatory, launched in 1999, has provided strong evidence of water to upstage all math-intensive guesses for the first time in human history. It's a huge step forward in our understanding of the neighborhood.

It'll be interesting to see where this leads.

I smell...
by codymr
Jul 25th, 2008
09:16:06 PM
a FOX TV special hosted by Jonathan Frakes on the horizon.
2012 is teh REVELATION date.
by halberd
Jul 25th, 2008
09:16:21 PM
I've been an avid believer in the historical arrows pointing to that single, important year. Honestly, I'm hoping nothing really comes of it... but if anything it'd be a treat to just have the aliens hop in on Dec. 21st 2012 and say "hey what's up humans?! - yea... that's what all this hype's been about. This really all started out as a bet between Intergalactic Premier Varr'son'inn Prrwel Vynntnn and I, because I didn't think he could hold off a full-on revelation for a couple thousand years since we left Egypt. He proved my ass wrong. Well, we're here! No more stealth technology and shady visitations. Seems like you all bought into those calendars we made some several thousand-odd years ago. Can't believe that stuff worked! Well, anyways... we're gonna be chill, really. Just don't show belligerence towards us; freedom of trade and information between aliens and humans from here on out. Sound cool? Alright, see ya later then." And that will be that. - GSantos
HD-DVD Harry?
by Mindworm22
Jul 25th, 2008
09:22:19 PM
Harry, before you call someone out for saying that you sold out, do you care to comment on your ill fated schpiels on how HD-DVD just "felt right"? I think thou dost protest too much.
TheNorthlander
by codymr
Jul 25th, 2008
09:23:20 PM
"Never again could we make movies like... ...Battlefield Earth." Let's hope the ETs land sooner rather than later ;-)
Time Traveling Ass Pirates!
by Jobacca
Jul 25th, 2008
09:25:21 PM
I've actually heard that theory before-that they're our great great descendants come back in time to prevent some calamity in the future. Apparently we fuck up the planet something fierce and we all turn into little grey ass burglars. At least we'll have time machines,which is nice. I have to admit it makes sense. If I had a time machine I'd totally go back and knock up some hot cave broads and fuck with their heads by making crop circles and shit. Wouldnt you?
To All Alien Naysayers-
by halberd
Jul 25th, 2008
09:27:13 PM
...ie Joe Elliott - Seriously, this isn't rocket-science - it's incredibly understandable astrophysics. Neil DeGrasse Tyson did a break down of the universe's make-up, and mapped out the percentage of elements and their presence in said universe relative to Earth. 'Coincidentally' enough, he found that the Earth had the exact proportions of elements as was displayed with the cosmos in general. To our understanding, things throughout our universe formed in similar fashion since the birth of our stars, so if you ask me - that right there is an EXCELLENT chance for extra-terrestrial life. At least extra-terrestrial to us. Some displays of evolution should have already propelled civilizations into intergalactic/stellar travel. It's only a matter of time before it's all on the table, and I can't wait.
Oh, God no....
by grungies
Jul 25th, 2008
09:27:39 PM
Harry, what caused you to take such a nasty fall on your way out of bed this morning?
Opie & Anthony talked Dr Edgar Mitchell
by Heckles
Jul 25th, 2008
09:33:45 PM
Pretty funny shit. Check their site if you get a chance.
is stammering a requirement for British journalism?
by smackfu
Jul 25th, 2008
09:34:34 PM
Dr Edgar Mitchell gets interviewed by Ken from Fish Called Wanda
by smackfu
Jul 25th, 2008
09:35:16 PM
If it wasn't...
by SunTzu77
Jul 25th, 2008
09:38:11 PM
someone so loony as Mitchell discussing this issue I would have found the article noteworthy. Mitchell is wayyyyyyyy out there. This is the same guy who supposedly conducted private ESP experiments while in space (read his book "The Way of the Explorer") and formed the Institute of Noetic Sciences (http://www.noetic.org/).
unionJACKass.webs.com
by halberd
Jul 25th, 2008
09:38:19 PM
I didn't buy into the previous hypes, honestly. But something about 2012... it coaxes me to the point of belief. Just lately, a truckload and a half of aircraft logs (something like 3000 and counting) were released declaring UFO sightings, all of them more or less dictating the same details of what they were seeing flying within range. Unless all those experienced pilots were in on fooling us, or hopped up on the same drug being passed around aeronautical circles across the world... or they all saw what they said they saw. It gets my brain itching, no question about that.
Astronauts are crazy
by lost.rules.
Jul 25th, 2008
09:43:28 PM
it is a job prerequisite. The longer they stay in space, the crazier they have to be.
Quagaars!
by CAPTAIN RIGHTWING
Jul 25th, 2008
09:45:39 PM
Obviously, it must be them! My god, you mean Rimmer was right all along?!
Yackbacker
by MR. MURDOCH
Jul 25th, 2008
09:49:49 PM
The female orgasm DOES exist -- I've seen it!! Aliens? Nahh... They're only us from the future... !!!!!! Yes, always has that notion myself as well...maybe it's because, deep down, we already know this??? :-)
uFOOLogy
by dirtsandwich
Jul 25th, 2008
09:59:01 PM
Ignorance is no longer bliss
by a rolling stone
Jul 25th, 2008
10:15:26 PM
Admitting we have a problem is the first step to getting better. The emperor wears no clothes and we are not alone.
Old Story
by G100
Jul 25th, 2008
10:19:07 PM
It's been in the Newsmedia for many days BTW.

And before we are inundated with tin-foil hatters bound for Mars it might be appropriate to point out that 12 men walked on the moon.

The current National Institute for Mental Health statists point to 1 in 4 having some mental health problems.

Besides even if he's completely rational it certainly doesn't rule out fabrication.

I'd prefer evidence over any one persons account before I tear up every History book and Science textbook we currently live by, thanks all the same.

No matter what the occupation or how outwardly plausable the individual is.

If nothing else...
by CAPTAIN RIGHTWING
Jul 25th, 2008
10:23:39 PM
this has sparked a debate, an iteresting one at that! My stance, like anyone gives a shit, is that there are always possibilites. I won't discount anything until I myself can prove one way or the other.

And I'm way too fucking lazy for that shit!

no
by Dijjot
Jul 25th, 2008
10:27:05 PM
citations, no indication as to the full context of the interview. colour me unimpressed.
I gotta go with Gorn
by thefutureoffilm
Jul 25th, 2008
10:31:36 PM
One of my best friend's has an uncle who is a 2 or 3 star general, and one time his sister asked him if he Aliens exist. He gave her the look he always gives when he means 'yes'.
I always liked that scene in CONTACT...
by Jobacca
Jul 25th, 2008
10:32:55 PM
When the aliens sent us back the footage of Hitler at the Olympics. You know what would make a great sci-fi story? Aliens way out in space that are just now getting footage of WWII. A bunch of them decide to team up with the Nazis and help them win the war by coming to earth. SPACE NAZIS FROM BEYOND URANUS!!!! COMING TO A DRIVE-IN NEAR YOU IN 3D AND GLORIOUS SMELLOVISION! YOU WONT BELIEVE YOUR NOSE!!!!!
World Record?
by mercuryx23
Jul 25th, 2008
10:42:34 PM
If you do something on the moon, does it count as a world record or a system record (or a satellite record)? I know it's a semantic argument, but sometimes semantics are all we have, especially in light of the now disclosed alien contact which, to our knowledge, has not had any visible impact on us (unless you think all this advanced tech we have had to come from somewhere besides the mind of mankind and that the reason the aliens can be defeated using the Mac platform is...well, you know).
Gareth!
by Gym
Jul 25th, 2008
10:43:58 PM
Interviewer sounds like gareth from How2. He once made ice cream using liquid nitrogen, which, for me at least, lends this interview credibility. So. The aliens are small and humanoid. Man, thats a let down. Next up: the pope confirms the existence of God.
Believing that we are alone in the universe is like
by rookie116
Jul 25th, 2008
10:53:42 PM
believing the earth is flat.
they're NOT "aliens"
by Ironhelix
Jul 25th, 2008
10:56:21 PM
why bother physically traveling the IMMENSE distances between stars to visit earth? it literally makes NO sense. i mean, do people really not get how infinitely vast the universe is? and let's not even get me started on how a life form from another galaxy would NEVER resemble anything like the organisms we have here on earth. life here looks the way it does, because it's evolved to fit in with the ecology of our planet. with the possible exception of a few things, like 2 eyes for binocular vision (a problem for which there may be only one solution), an alien life form would be utterly "alien", not just big headed versions of humans. if this phenomenon has ANY credibility at all, the so-called aliens have to be time travellers from our future. they look like miniature humans, because they are descended from present day humans. maybe technology has cause their bodies to atrophy, i don't know, but that shit is a whole lot easier for me to believe. i don't know... maybe i'm just drunk.
These Beings Are Real, But What They Are I Don'
by Media Messiah
Jul 25th, 2008
10:58:56 PM
spirit panel clips now up on youtube
by bacci40
Jul 25th, 2008
11:08:31 PM
if anyone cares...and we may not be alone, but i dont see anyone really wanting to visit this shithole
duh
by TheDudeintheShadows
Jul 25th, 2008
11:11:46 PM
flava flave is their king.
These Beings Are Real, But What They Are I Don't Know?
by Media Messiah
Jul 25th, 2008
11:12:08 PM
I have reason to believe that they are the beings in the Bible that we refer to as Demons and Angels. That said, what are they??? No doubt, they have a relation to us of some sort...or at least, that is what we have been led to believe. So far, they aren't elaborating, although the Bible appears to indicate that they are from another dimension, or dimensions, Heaven and Hell, whatever they are, and that we are indeed related to them.

I wonder if any of you recall Dan Rather doing a report in the Mid 80s on CBS Evening News saying that according to government authorities, that giant snake like creatures exist in our atmosphere??? After Rather made that very report, FYI, this is no joke, there was no further follow-up on the story and no one else in the media touched it...not even to attempt to belittle the report...nor did the tabloids touch the story...but I assure you that Dan Rather made that report, and as I said, and nothing followed, no retraction, no nothing...everything just went black!!!
NOT ONE FUCKING ALIEN
by WolfmanNards
Jul 25th, 2008
11:17:52 PM
I went to see the X-Files movie, and though it did have Mulder and Scully in it, that was about all the movie had to do with anything this side of X-Files. No Aliens. No conspiracies. No black trenchcoats, or flashing of FBI badges. Here's the supernatural this movie had to offer. A priest who used to bugger little boys has some visions of where a few body parts are. He has like 2-3 visions. We don't see the visions. He just says he sees something and we believe him. ( "I want to believe" ) And that's it. The end. The rest of the movie is people looking for some kidnapped chicks. This movie had the production quality of a lifetime made for TV movie. The kind you see on a rainy sunday afternoon and watch only because there was nothing else on and you want to find out who the killer is at the end, but once the movie's over, an itch on your back will make you forget everything you just saw. If this movie didn't have X-Files in the title, it would be a little less embarrassing, but still not that great of a story. No creatures. No cigarette smoking man. Nothing. They give us Mulder and Scully post FBI careers, and man do those fuckers look weird now. I may have been able to stomach David Duchovny's Kennedy-style oversized (and still growing) head with an ever-disappearing chin and floppity cheeks if it were crammed inside of an FBI suit with a gun and badge, but that wasn't the case here. Same goes for Scully with her long flat "I'm a 40-something progressive yuppie" hairdo. The X-files TV show is so awesome. Practically every week we were blessed with a great supernatural scary story grounded in enough reality to make you check your own room twice when the lights were out. This movie offered not the slightest pubic hair of an inkling of what the X-files show was all about. Why did they want me to see this? These fuckers knew fans like me were going to mosey into the theater. Is this a joke? If so, I want in. I want to be the one laughing at the sad and confused mugs leaving the movie theater in droves. Well, at least I can say this for myself - I will be the one laughing when the x-files theaters are empty because everybody told their friends about how much of a tampon scab this movie really is. NOT ONE FUCKING ALIEN
wow, like someone else said it before
by pcassou
Jul 25th, 2008
11:18:37 PM
What an interesting talkback. I think is one of the most balanced and fun talkbacks ever, everybody is having fun pitching ideas, remembering stories, and whatnot. I do believe in aliens, I've seen lights in the sky that can't be planes. No one has mention the crazy theory about reptile people, I think they are related to aliens.
and by the way, time travel into the past is impossible
by TheDudeintheShadows
Jul 25th, 2008
11:18:57 PM
go read a physics book you nutjobs. theoretically, we could go into the future if we could travel at the speed of light, but we cant. the past is exactly that, and theres no visiting it. no matter how much this crazy old astronaut thinks amy winehouse is one of em.
media messiah
by TheDudeintheShadows
Jul 25th, 2008
11:26:22 PM
you bible humping weirdo. the fact that you are using the bible as a reference to your nutto theory about angels and demons proves that although humans are intelligent, you are not
Ghet Yoar Azz to Mahrs!!!!!
by Jobacca
Jul 25th, 2008
11:30:27 PM
Remember...aliens make it!
yea, but jackie gleason already knew that
by JackieGleasonUFO
Jul 25th, 2008
11:36:19 PM
ofcourse it's real, people see shit everyday and theirs good footage out there.
He's Not a Loon
by blhotz
Jul 25th, 2008
11:38:48 PM
Because he particpated in a pschic experiment, he's a fruitcake? What? Look up remote viewing, dude, it's real stuff. He never claimed to "know everything" and he seemed very forthcoming w/ what he knew. He also knew what should be reasonably expected from a Nasa guy. Hopefully all will be revealed in our lifetime. What we should be concerned w/ is our (human) development.
Weinerpenis is right
by tritium
Jul 25th, 2008
11:44:48 PM
Ed Mitchell is completely off his rocker...and it started back in the Apollo program. Just because someone is an Astronaut, doesn't mean they can't be a loony. The very fact that supposed extra-terrestrial aliens are humanoid, is the biggest argument against there being any validity to this crap whatsoever. Forget all the Sci-Fi you've seen over the years. For the most part, aliens have been depicted as "humanoid" for simple expediency, budget constraints, and frankly, total lack of imagination. Any complex life-form, independantly evolving on a distant planet to intelligence, would have a bauplan and morphology completely and utterly different then us. The reason for this is the exquisite relation of contingency with Evolution. Dr. Stephen J. Gould had a prescient thought expirement: If you wound the "tape of life" backwards to the beginning, and replayed it, nothing resembling humans would ever have evolved. This doesn't mean some type of complex, intelligent life isn't possible...just that it resembling anything human is so fantastically improbable as to be impossible.
Hate to tell you...
by jdb1972
Jul 25th, 2008
11:47:19 PM
... but Mitchell's always been kinda nutty. This was the guy who conducted ESP "experiments" during his space flight. If you've never heard he might be insane, you haven't been listening very hard.
I believe
by boogy110
Jul 26th, 2008
12:00:02 AM
In extra terrestial life. To me it's not a theory, it's more of an un proven fact. The universe is infinite and to believe that we are the only life forms that exist..well to me that's just incredibly close minded and naive. However, with that said; I absolutely do not believe that we have been visited by them. We've never had ANY clear pictures or videos. I've NEVER seen any evidence of their existance on this plantet and finally, I beleive Earth is the Alabama of the universe. What intelligent life form would want to go to Alabama.
Aliens = People from the Future
by 'Cholera's Ghost
Jul 26th, 2008
12:01:55 AM
That's always been my personal theory. If the grays are real. But do you realize the amount of sophistication and carefulness that would be necessary to successfully manipulate the space time continuum in a fashion that doesn't utterly destroy the integrity of the fabric of reality? ... neither do I.
Because as that incident with the crazy diaper wearing astronaut
by m00kiedood
Jul 26th, 2008
12:10:43 AM
Astronauts are impeccable sources of reason.
Michael Crichton's "Next" to be made for TV?
by BadMrWonka
Jul 26th, 2008
12:10:55 AM
http://tinyurl.com/683sch

I envisioned it way differently, but it could be cool...

If Aliens existed...
by Mister C
Jul 26th, 2008
12:22:25 AM
not saying they do, but if they did have the ability to travel to our planet, they wouldn't reveal themselves tothe public like some people are using as an argument to why we haven't seen em, they would be respectful and approach the world leaders, if the world leaders wanted to keep it hidden the ETs would be respectful "ambassadors" or whatever and abide our rules, they would after all been intelligent if they've mastered space travel.
To non believers
by nickmarks666
Jul 26th, 2008
12:23:44 AM
I am amazed that more of you guys don't believe in UFO's. If you don't believe in UFO's and love movies...and if you do believe in UFO's and love movies...then do yourself a favor and watch this movie. http://video.google.com/videop lay?docid=-5980990221766439646 I am not saying I know what they are doing up there. I am guessing just studying us like we study other creatures on earth. But to deny they are they is harder and harder and one day will be almost impossible.
no fucking kidding their real
by flipster
Jul 26th, 2008
12:23:59 AM
no fucking doubt - the way they've covered it up is identical to the way Bush - son of the guy who ran the cover op for ufo's - ran the Iraq Bs and the Election Stealing - same m.o. boys and girls same m.o. nothing to see here, this is reality when the exact opposite was true, run disinfo campaigns in the media - identical.
The movie is called
by nickmarks666
Jul 26th, 2008
12:24:32 AM
Ufo.The.Greatest.Story.Ever.De nied
'Cholera's Ghost
by Sir Loin
Jul 26th, 2008
12:24:46 AM
Same here, man. I always thought that any "aliens" that visited this planet would be time-travlers who somehow got caught in the act. Actually, there was an old SCI-FI Channel movie called "Official Denial" that was along these lines.
But he himself has not seen any UFOs or aliens
by geraldbeans
Jul 26th, 2008
12:27:01 AM
This is all coming from other people he's talked to. I'm not saying that these other people lied to him. But this is far from someone who has seen these things with their own eyes.
P.S.
by Sir Loin
Jul 26th, 2008
12:28:03 AM
Any time-traveling "aliens" who were stupid enough to get caught in the present timeline should kill me outright. Do me a favor and end my DNA continuation, yet leave my alternate self a clue on how to change my current, pitiful timeline into something more productive for all mankind. lol.
RE: Him doing these psychic experiments
by geraldbeans
Jul 26th, 2008
12:39:41 AM
This actually makes sense if you think about it. The fact that Mitchell is a little out there, is what allowed him to believe this stuff. All these "no-nonsense, tough-guy practical" astronauts - it wouldn't matter if a space ship flew right in front of their faces. The pre-ordained belief that they don't exist would prevent them from believing it.
To serve man...
by Mister C
Jul 26th, 2008
12:42:09 AM
I got a feelin we can trust this guy. He was cured of cancer he may or may not have had by a psychic, he seems legit....
Aliens IS real!
by ebonic_plague
Jul 26th, 2008
12:42:43 AM
It was just on cable the other day...
Moon landing Hoaxer reveals ET?
by JimboTHC
Jul 26th, 2008
12:43:00 AM
The moon landing was a Hoax, so why should we believe him when he breaks the Dam?
Also, REAL aliens...
by ebonic_plague
Jul 26th, 2008
12:43:29 AM
...are intelligent and talk.
yea....
by Mister C
Jul 26th, 2008
12:49:05 AM
not like those fake aliens who use sign language
Grant Morrison (the hack) sucked my dick.
by Uncle Stan
Jul 26th, 2008
12:57:37 AM
He just sucks.
They Saved Hitler's Brain
by jackofhearts29
Jul 26th, 2008
01:01:31 AM
and Elvis too. The Aliens are all about collecting body parts. "Stop! Stop! We have reached the limit of what anal probing can teach us!" - Kodos
The spac/time conundrum
by Jobacca
Jul 26th, 2008
01:12:36 AM
What if the future is SO fucked up that anything the do doesnt really matter? Maybe they're so eager to prevent whatever horrible world they live in that anything they do could only be an improvement? But how bad can the future be...they've got fucking time machines??? Heres what they should do...1-abduct some hot women. 2-abduct a saucerful of booze and drugs(or whatever it is that gets their advanced metabolisim fucked up...maybe its hot sauce). 3-Travel back to the old west and get some huge gigantic saddles made.4-travel back even further and live out their days riding dinosaurs and getting wasted with hot chicks until the asteroid arrives.5-flee asteroid in time machine and repeat.
Do some research..
by CrazySlasher27
Jul 26th, 2008
01:14:36 AM
"Mitchell's interests include consciousness and paranormal phenomena. During the Apollo 14 flight he conducted private ESP experiments with his friends on Earth.[3] In early 1973, he founded the nonprofit Institute of Noetic Sciences (IONS) to conduct and sponsor research into areas that mainstream science has found unproductive, including consciousness research and psychic events. Mitchell says that a teenage remote healer who lives in Vancouver and uses the pseudonym Adam Dreamhealer, helped heal him of kidney cancer at a distance. Mitchell said that while he never had a biopsy (the definitive test for cancer), "I had a sonogram and MRI that was consistent with renal carcinoma." Adam worked (distantly) on Mitchell from December of 2003 until June of 2004, when the "irregularity was gone and we haven't seen it since."[4] Mitchell has publicly expressed his opinions that he is "90 per cent sure that many of the thousands of unidentified flying objects, or UFOs, recorded since the 1940s, belong to visitors from other planets"[5] and that UFOs have been the "subject of disinformation in order to deflect attention and to create confusion so the truth doesn't come out."[6] In 2004 he told the St. Petersburg Times that a "cabal of insiders" inside the US Government were studying recovered alien bodies, and that this group had stopped briefing US Presidents after John F. Kennedy.[7] He has said, that "We all know that UFOs are real, now the question is, where they come from."[8] On July 23, 2008 Edgar Mitchell was interviewed on Kerrang Radio. Mitchell claimed the Roswell crash was real and that Aliens have contacted humans several times but that governments have hidden the truth for 60 years stating, "'I happen to have been privileged enough to be in on the fact that we've been visited on this planet and the UFO phenomena is real." In reply, a spokesman for NASA stated, "NASA does not track UFOs. NASA is not involved in any sort of cover up about alien life on this planet or anywhere in the universe. Dr Mitchell is a great American, but we do not share his opinions on this issue."[9] [10] Edgar Mitchell is one of the astronauts featured in the documentary In the Shadow of the Moon. As well as academic papers,[11] Mitchell has written two books: Psychic Exploration: A Challenge for Science (ISBN 0-399-11342-8) and The Way of the Explorer (ISBN 1-57270-019-X). In The Way of the Explorer, Mitchell proposed a dyadic model of reality.[12] He is currently the Advisory Board Chairman of the Institute for Cooperation in Space, co-founded by Dr. Carol Rosin[13] and is a member of INREES." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E dgar_Mitchell The man is nut.
guy is into paranormal stupidness??
by Seth Brundle
Jul 26th, 2008
01:25:30 AM
that pretty much settles it, lol, for debunking of stupide ideas go check the James randi site www.randi.org
Loved it!
by Aeghast
Jul 26th, 2008
01:34:00 AM
Had I read this as a kid (!), I'd go mad
Finally, the Truth is out!
by YouAreAllMyBastardChildren
Jul 26th, 2008
02:03:55 AM
My little bastard children, it has been so hard to keep this secret from you for your entire lives. Family meeting tonight. We'll discuss our alien strategy.
The government is planning a fake Alien Invasion
by ingloriousjedi
Jul 26th, 2008
02:13:31 AM
To create mass fear. Aliens are of course real, but the future UFO invasion will be faked, using holograms, yes holograms. Were you aware of that Harry?

If you want to see an absolutely amazing interview with an alien contactee check out the clip. http://youtube.com/watch?v=VDX WboW8bVI The interview was done in 1994!

Then they better use the Squid!
by ebonic_plague
Jul 26th, 2008
02:17:04 AM
If it's just some holographic blue clouds, I swear, I will refuse to panic and/or take part in the ensuing world peace.
What?
by veritasses
Jul 26th, 2008
02:23:00 AM
No Xenu jokes yet?
The government is planning a fake Alien Invasion
by ingloriousjedi
Jul 26th, 2008
02:28:10 AM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=VDX WboW8bVI
The government is planning a fake Alien Invasion
by ingloriousjedi
Jul 26th, 2008
02:28:28 AM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=VDX WboW8bVI
The government is planning a fake Alien Invasion
by ingloriousjedi
Jul 26th, 2008
02:28:42 AM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=VDX WboW8bVI
The government is planning a fake Alien Invasion
by ingloriousjedi
Jul 26th, 2008
02:28:54 AM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=VDX WboW8bVI
The government is planning a fake Alien Invasion
by ingloriousjedi
Jul 26th, 2008
02:29:09 AM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=VDX WboW8bVI
The government is planning a fake Alien Invasion
by ingloriousjedi
Jul 26th, 2008
02:29:21 AM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=VDX WboW8bVI
The government is planning a fake Alien Invasion
by ingloriousjedi
Jul 26th, 2008
02:29:35 AM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=VDX WboW8bVI
looks like ingloriousjedi is planning a real invasion of AICN
by palimpsest
Jul 26th, 2008
02:34:13 AM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=VDXWb oW8bVI
by ingloriousjedi
Jul 26th, 2008
02:34:21 AM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=VDXWb oW8bVI
by ingloriousjedi
Jul 26th, 2008
02:35:00 AM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=VDXWb oW8bVI
by ingloriousjedi
Jul 26th, 2008
02:35:15 AM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=VDXWb oW8bVI
by ingloriousjedi
Jul 26th, 2008
02:35:26 AM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=VDXWb oW8bVI
by ingloriousjedi
Jul 26th, 2008
02:35:39 AM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=VDXWb oW8bVI
by ingloriousjedi
Jul 26th, 2008
02:35:51 AM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=VDXWb oW8bVI
by ingloriousjedi
Jul 26th, 2008
02:36:00 AM
More interesting than any X-Files episode.
by ingloriousjedi
Jul 26th, 2008
02:37:10 AM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=VDXWb oW8bVI
by ingloriousjedi
Jul 26th, 2008
02:37:48 AM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=VDXWb oW8bVI
by ingloriousjedi
Jul 26th, 2008
02:37:59 AM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=VDXWb oW8bVI
by ingloriousjedi
Jul 26th, 2008
02:38:10 AM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=VDXWb oW8bVI
by ingloriousjedi
Jul 26th, 2008
02:38:28 AM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=VDXWb oW8bVI
by ingloriousjedi
Jul 26th, 2008
02:40:14 AM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=VDXWb oW8bVI
by ingloriousjedi
Jul 26th, 2008
02:40:25 AM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=VDXWb oW8bVI
by ingloriousjedi
Jul 26th, 2008
02:40:37 AM
Watch the whole thing
by ingloriousjedi
Jul 26th, 2008
02:40:52 AM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=VDXWb oW8bVI
by ingloriousjedi
Jul 26th, 2008
02:41:06 AM
I knew it!!! Aliens are real!!!
by Orionsangels
Jul 26th, 2008
02:44:18 AM
OH NO LORD XENU IS COMING!!!
by LaserPants
Jul 26th, 2008
02:48:28 AM
HELP!!!
Aliens and HD-DVD rule the earth!
by The Biomind
Jul 26th, 2008
02:52:58 AM
Aliens and HD-DVD rule the earth!
I JUST GOT OFF THE PHONE WITH AN ALIEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by The Dum Guy
Jul 26th, 2008
03:04:44 AM
And Oscar told me they mean no harm.

In fact, the plan is to make enough money in Atlanta to get a strip joint started in San Miguel, a nice classy place.
so...
by Dijjot
Jul 26th, 2008
03:18:33 AM
the u.s. government is basically, allegoricaly...ozymandias from watchmen, inglorious jedi? i cant imagine them being that clever, or theatric.
Probably a lot smarter than Ozymandias
by ingloriousjedi
Jul 26th, 2008
03:34:21 AM
with a lot more money.

Why did Ozymandias want to do the whole invasion thing by the way?, haven't read Watchmen, on wikipedia it says to create a 'common enemy'...but why?

spoiler for watchmen i guess
by Dijjot
Jul 26th, 2008
03:50:16 AM
yep, you were pretty much right. he wanted to avert mutually assured destruction with an engineered monster. and that alex collier interview is pretty...idk. fanatical? he has some good ideas for life, but he needs to maybe get with tom cruise and decide on a cohesive whole. maybe some writers for dc to retcon the whole deal. its all pretty interesting.
old age fucks with your head
by Rupee88
Jul 26th, 2008
04:02:22 AM
maybe he just needs to create this reality to deal with life.
You don't get a moonbat vibe from youtube guy ingloriousjedi ?
by G100
Jul 26th, 2008
04:22:01 AM
Apart from spamming the thread and reminding us all of the "Genius" of the U.S. Government in action, perhaps you should step back a touch and look at the guy on this youtube link objectively ?

Does he seem sane to you ? Really ? I mean REALLY ?

Or does his every strange enunciation, verbal, facial and gestural tick speak of a man who isn't close to the edge but leaped off it quite some time ago ?

It all sounds suspiciously close to the usual David Icke style babbling lunacy TBH and I can think of a dozen better science fiction plots offhand myself.

The interviewer new age hippy is very amusing though. He sounds totally wasted.

if this is true, this is like, WOW.
by cifra
Jul 26th, 2008
04:34:34 AM
The implications of this are system-challenging, that's why something like this would have been kept secret. I love the part "it's pretty obvious they are not hostile... if they would we would be gone by now". Like wow. Expect some indifference from the US government and the NASA about this, anyways, or even a dismiss as "senility" of Dr. Mitchell. I've always been skeptichal in this issue, but when someone from the inside says it's true while admitting he only knows part of the story... I have to give him a lot of credibility...
Alright...
by jsm1978
Jul 26th, 2008
04:52:44 AM
Here's my two cents...

The Bible doesn't rule out aliens, but it makes it unlikely. So it wouldn't neccesarily destroy religion, but it would raise many questions. Particularly regarding sin and redemption.

To say that saying we're alone in the universe is the same as saying the earth is flat is a serious logical fallacy. Setting up straw men to try to make the opposing argument look foolish.

IF evolution is responsible for everything (which I've made my points about in the past), that still doesn't guarantee that there is any other life out there. The process neccesary for life to have evolved from nothing is so mathematically improbably that no matter how many planets they find, the chances of life being on any of them is astronomically slim. Plus, we have yet to find evidence of a planet that could support life as we know it. All are either too close or to far from their star, or are probably gas giants.

thedudeintheshadows
by jsm1978
Jul 26th, 2008
04:59:10 AM
Actually, the alien = demon/angel thing has been around for a little while (both in fiction and non-fiction). The general idea is that it's demons disguised as aliens to set up some sort of great spiritual deception.

Speaking as a Christian, it seems a little strange to me, though the amount of cults that have arisen based on UFO beliefs does seem to lend a certain amount of plausibility to the idea...

G100
by ingloriousjedi
Jul 26th, 2008
05:06:42 AM
Have you watched the FULL 12 videos?

You really need to to get the sense of the guy. Yes, he does seem totally sane. He's well spoken, a successfully businessman who has this burden of being 'contacted'. The level of detail he goes into is amazing.

And I do consider the ones behind this to be truly 'Genius', not the 'U.S Government', but the ones at the top of that triangle.

I'd love to see an 300 million dollar budget X Files film about an Alien invasion, and a cool turning point would be where Mulder realizes that it is in fact staged. And fuck off Scully, she should either die within the first ten minutes, or help Mulder shoot down a swarm of Greys.

hmm
by Dijjot
Jul 26th, 2008
05:08:52 AM
"the amount of cults that have arisen based on UFO beliefs does seem to lend a certain amount of plausibility" and you were detailing logical fallacy before? if space is infinite then alien life forms are a fact. have they made it to earth? well, until Bill Nye the science guy concurs with Mulder on the social heirarchy of Ister Gay, then who gives a shit?
Aliens
by m_reporter
Jul 26th, 2008
05:29:09 AM
Yeah, I believe they're out there. If you ask me it's kinda stupid to believe we're alone in the universe, considering how big it is and considering that WE exist.

Besides, I remember reading somewhere that they found bacteria fossils in the rocks from Mars. Those count as aliens too. But anyway, intelligent lifeforms do exist somewhere, but don't look for them on this planet.

Dr Mitchell needs to do a 2nd interview...
by pax256
Jul 26th, 2008
06:02:03 AM
Its not quite clear what convinced him to talk now or if he simply decided to believe recently based on some international moves to disclose old files such as in France and Britain or recent sightings and strong evidence that have been showcased in the media... The testimony of the former Arizona gov on the Phoenix lights for example...I think Larry King can make room for one more UFO show this summer.
I mean his saying he talked to fellow NASA employees...
by pax256
Jul 26th, 2008
06:03:43 AM
Isnt crystal clear... is he admitting to being part of a coverup all these years?
Aliens on Earth?
by vezner2007
Jul 26th, 2008
07:26:46 AM
I hope not! Those suckers have that tongue thing that can shoot through a person's skull! We're screwed!
we backwards engineered cell phones from them
by ironic_name
Jul 26th, 2008
08:39:59 AM
nokias.. they. are. nasty.

gotta respect the japanese.

Of course the aliens are future humans!!!
by King_Midas
Jul 26th, 2008
08:45:37 AM
It’s so obvious. You people are right on there. In the near future there will be a nuclear holocaust that destroys life on this planet as we know it for millennia to come. What’s left of the human race will evolve into a tiny, grey, bug-eyed, radiation-immune, asexual species that shuns clothing. Resources will be scarce (hence the need to go smaller), visibility will be poor with all the shit in the atmosphere (hence the large, bug-like eyes), that amount of radiation not to mention the lack of sunlight can’t be good for the skin (hence the shrunken grey visage), and really who wants to mate with a creature looking like that (hence no need for sexual differentiation which leads to no real need for clothes since there aren’t any fun parts to be prudishly ashamed of). And before you ask, the species is continually perpetuated via a common scientific means of reproduction that we’ve already discovered. Anyway, humans obviously aren’t happy with their new way of life, so they divert every resource for thousands of years to discovering a way to travel back in time to the moment it all when wrong (i.e. the mid 1940’s with the invention of the atomic bomb) and doing whatever is possible to avert nuclear disaster and avoid their inevitable and very misfortunate transformation. They’re not particularly good at time travel, so they miss their target at first by a few thousand years and instead end up giving engineering tips to the Egyptians since there are very few things in life that warrant decades of time and tens of thousands of slave laborers like the construction of one man’s tomb. They also accidentally end up in South America, but make up for that miscalculation by drawing pictures in the sand and successfully communicating the date of the future nuclear disaster (2012) to the Mayans who agree to include it in their calendar. They do eventually find the 1940’s, but the ability to land safely on their own past planet escapes them (perhaps they were blinded by the clear, starry skies) and they crash and die before being able to relay their warning. In a sad twist of fate, they do however inadvertently provide us with the technology to hasten our own demise via the miracle of reverse engineering. As 2012 nears with few apparent signs of success, they become increasingly frustrated with their inability to break through the renowned wall of secrecy that is the U.S. Government. (and let’s be honest, we probably don’t know about half the extra-marital affairs and BJs that have taken place in the oval office so what else aren’t they telling us?). They step up their efforts over a 50-year period, and excluding the occasional abduction and sexual probe (you always want what you can’t have and who wouldn’t yearn for a lost pair of giblets), they largely succeed in entering the public consciousness in a positive way. The original languages of earth have of course been lost, so they are forced to communicate with complex mathematical (the only true language of science, thank you Jodie Foster) symbols that are mysteriously imprinted into obscure crop fields where they will have maximum visibility (leaving messages in food is one of the few time-honored human traditions to survive the complete destruction of our society, along with in vitro fertilization obviously). While we do eventually come to accept their presence and decipher their warnings in just the nick of time, avoiding the no-longer inevitable 2012 nuclear catastrophe, a sad twist of fate reveals that it wasn’t nuclear technology at all that doomed our species, but rather the 2000 election of George W. Bush. It make perfect sense people. It’s a god damn Shakespearean tragedy. Of course, as superman proved, when you can time travel, no problem is too big to overcome, so there will of course be a sequel where a plucky band of unfortunate future human travelers embark on a series of adventures spanning several thousand years of human history where they ultimately endeavor to teach the citizens of Florida how to count.
bigfoot on the moon!
by ironic_name
Jul 26th, 2008
08:52:47 AM
my band.
midas
by Dijjot
Jul 26th, 2008
09:01:53 AM
might want to copyright that before emmerich comes up with a new movie idea.
Jobacca and SPACE NAZIS
by JackieGleasonUFO
Jul 26th, 2008
09:15:22 AM
amazingly someone is working on a space nazi movie and its far better looking than half the films reported on this and any other site ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =4KEueJnsu80 or just tinyurled http://tinyurl.com/5t2cq6 i hope it gets made.
That site also claims the Moon landing was fake...
by SpencerTrilby
Jul 26th, 2008
09:17:27 AM
negates one's cred as surely as a Godzilla '98 positive review.
anyone seen richie?
by ironic_name
Jul 26th, 2008
09:17:37 AM
Dijjot
by King_Midas
Jul 26th, 2008
09:22:50 AM
Yeah, that story is ripe for Hollywood translation. It’s got it all – aliens, time travel, period set pieces, fateful twists, popular political pandering, overly-simplified science, a willful ignorance of actual history, an implausible arc, and most importantly . . . built-in sequel potential. Harry, help me out, how do get this thing pitched? Some studio should be ready to pony up.
JackieGleasonUFO thanks for the year old footage
by ironic_name
Jul 26th, 2008
09:24:11 AM
that has been reported on before.
and Dr Mitchell was found dead, choked on a taco...
by br1947
Jul 26th, 2008
09:28:55 AM
ok, well maybe jobacca hasn't seen it yet
by JackieGleasonUFO
Jul 26th, 2008
09:30:54 AM
and other people
He said the same on ART BELL (12 yrs ago!)
by Preacher_klee
Jul 26th, 2008
09:39:31 AM
He's been saying the same ramble for more than a decade. 30 seconds of google told me that. EM on Art Bell (the bastion of rational analysis to some, hooey to others): "we don't have smoking gun evidence that Roswell or any other visitation is absolutely real. We haven't put all of that to bed yet. I think the probability, the statistics are getting very, very high, in my opinion, that, yes, these are real physical events and they have been dramatically covered up" http://www.enterprisemission.c om/dtran5.html The story is the same - we have absolutely no evidence, but we will pretty soon. Any minute now ... and ... wait for it ...
elemental 'life' exists everywhere
by ironic_name
Jul 26th, 2008
09:46:48 AM
if. IF. you can argue that the basic elements have something more primal than life, but still something that is alive - less than, say grass or even single cell life - i.e fire or water or even the earth's soil, then the sun, or ANY sun and any planet could be 'alive'

once, the concept of a tree being living or a virus was silly, if we can say that hydrogen is a form of elemental organic substance, then you will have to concede life is everywhere.

I like turtles!
by ironic_name
Jul 26th, 2008
10:00:01 AM
dijjot
by jsm1978
Jul 26th, 2008
10:13:46 AM
I just say that about the cults giving a little plausibility to the whole alien = demon thing, because so many of these people involved with the cults claim the aliens come with messages that try to refute one thing: the Bible. Either they outright deny it or they claim to be responsible for all the miralces.

True, these people who say these things could just be crazy or something, but if in fact aliens are showing up and the first thing they do is start saying the Bible is a lie, it does seem a little stange.

Once again, I did not say I agree with the theory.

thedudeintheshadows
by Bass Bastardson
Jul 26th, 2008
10:47:35 AM
You suggest that people read up on their physics? I suggest that you read up on yours. Backward time travel may be impossible if time is in fact linear, but if you delve into cutting edge quantum theory, string theory, brane theory, etc. you will see that there are many branches of theoretical physics where time is not linear - or better yet - does not exist at all.
ingloriousjedi
by Bass Bastardson
Jul 26th, 2008
11:01:16 AM
I watched that whole fucking video. If you believe a second of it you are as gullible and feeble minded as anyone I have ever met.
I live in Southern California...
by Embeedeuce
Jul 26th, 2008
11:04:06 AM
We have aliens everywhere. Many of them illegal.
what i don't understand....
by therightclique
Jul 26th, 2008
11:06:18 AM
...is that the host is CLEARLY acting. his laughter and reactions are completely forced and fake. now, does that mean that they screened the questions/answers before hand or does it mean the whole thing is staged? how can we be sure that the interviewee is even who he is supposed to be. I assume this is some sort of radio prank, where at least the host is in on it.
Anyone who doesn't believe in extraterrestrial life...
by slone13
Jul 26th, 2008
11:43:11 AM
...is both conceited and ignorant, whether you believe Mitchell or not.
I'd be more worried about
by Smoke Monster Loves Kate
Jul 26th, 2008
11:59:32 AM
how the case for the Bible's prophecies for the end times is growing much faster than the case for UFOs.
What I'm sure of...
by Raymar
Jul 26th, 2008
12:03:36 PM
our government knows exactly how little they know about UFOs (basically that they're real and that's it) and it scares the hell out of them. It's the one thing they can never admit to the citizens because its an admission that they aren't sovereign in their own territory. I'm less sure of a big Roswell-esque conspiracy.
in fact
by pcassou
Jul 26th, 2008
12:08:03 PM
You can become an alien if you want to. My aunt became one when she went to washington. DC after 911 to work retiring asbestos fromgovrement buildings. Shit the goverment even paid her to work in the postal office looking for anthrax, the conspiracy is real
Slone
by JimBobCooter
Jul 26th, 2008
12:19:20 PM
Extraterrestrial life could mean bacteria somewhere millions of light years away. I don't think anyone is really adamantly against that possibility, as it is so out of our immediate scope.

As per the topic... aliens on Earth. If we don't think we've been visited, are we conceited and ignorant?

As per the Bible, it is full of inaccuracies and errors. So, literalists have a hard time in my book (those who say the universe was definitely created in 6 days and humans were instantly formed because the Bible says so), simply because even the infallible gospels disagree on the exact date of the crucifixion. One of them has to be wrong. So it is either fallible and completely wrong, or its human writers made mistakes about details here and there.

The other argument is that God didn't tell us about aliens b/c he didn't feel like we needed to know.

Oh, and about alien demons...
by JimBobCooter
Jul 26th, 2008
12:24:33 PM
Someone said some support for the theory that aliens are demons is that aliens all refute the Bible and take credit for miracles. And here I thought they just probed anuses and went about their way. :-)
So Harry reads the Drudge Report too!
by killianx
Jul 26th, 2008
12:26:56 PM
Saw this story on there several days ago!
Proof of alien visitation would be proof that Christianity is a
by smackfu
Jul 26th, 2008
12:39:41 PM
sham
by smackfu
Jul 26th, 2008
12:39:53 PM
.
Dr. Edgar Mitchell...
by BiggusDickus
Jul 26th, 2008
12:58:50 PM
...from the country that brought you L. Ron Hubbard.
happy happy joy joy
by carneguisada
Jul 26th, 2008
01:08:20 PM
Fun. Thanks. LOVE the Inglorious Jedi comment. D I had a great uncle who was in some kind of an airforce-something-governmenty and was stationed in Roswell in the 40s and was instructed not to say anything. He always had quite a gleam in his eye, though if we asked. But he was dead serious about never saying a word.
BiggusDickus
by ironic_name
Jul 26th, 2008
01:12:05 PM
also the country that brought you smackfu
So a man who claims to have "walked on the moon" deserves credib
by ar42
Jul 26th, 2008
01:22:25 PM
Everyone knows the moon landings were a hoax to promote the release of Kubrick's 2001: A Space Odyssey. Next this "astronaut" joker will be telling us 9/11 was masterminded by Muslim extremists rather than the obvious true villain the face on Mars. For proof see http://youtube.com/watch?v=Yu_ moia-oVI
Opening this with comics is kinda tacky, frankly
by StarWarsRedux
Jul 26th, 2008
01:33:57 PM
I mean, this is almost real news. Grow up.
Aliens do exist. There is intelligellent lifeforms that exist ou
by Atomica
Jul 26th, 2008
02:08:03 PM
No i'm not crazy. Np i'm not a nut. It's a reality. Here's my proof. In a universe of scientifically proven millions of known galaxies, and within it billions of stars, planets and moons, it is 100% completely Scientifically impossible for there to be no other planets that support intelligent life....as usual Fuck the Naysayers.
Invade after Batman 3
by messi
Jul 26th, 2008
02:08:07 PM
after that I don't give a fuck.
ingloriousjedi
by messi
Jul 26th, 2008
02:09:33 PM
don't be a dumb cunt and just read the book.
I want to fuck me some alien slut cunt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by crackerfarmboy
Jul 26th, 2008
02:10:29 PM
I'm right here alien bitches. Come and sit on my face!
There 's obviously life on other planets
by Thunderbolt Ross
Jul 26th, 2008
02:14:46 PM
Check the stats; there's shitloads of planets. Hundreds of billions of stars in the Milky Way alone. And there are an estimated 150 billion galaxies. So ... yeah, there is pretty much NO WAY we're alone in the universe.

As to whether visiting critters would be more advanced than us, they'd have to be to get here. The closest star is 4+ light years away, a distance it would take 25,000 years or so to travel in any mode known to us.

oops, Cobbio
by Thunderbolt Ross
Jul 26th, 2008
02:17:20 PM
Guess you already covered it. Call me an eager beaver if you must.
Re: Roswell
by Thunderbolt Ross
Jul 26th, 2008
02:22:56 PM
I'm pretty sure the Roswell story is BS. My grandfather went to pick up the wreckage and has said consistently it was just some flimsy material. Description jibes with the eventual explanation offered by the Air Force.
Until we see outer space aliens OURSELVES...
by TheGhostWhoLurks
Jul 26th, 2008
02:50:33 PM
Most people won't believe a WORD this guy or anyone ELSE claims about secret alien contact. It's really that simple.
I love this type of shit
by ebonic_plague
Jul 26th, 2008
02:59:47 PM
But that one Tool song, "Faaip De Oaid," still unnerves the hell outta me when I hear it.
there are still retards claiming the moon landings is a hoax?
by Xiphos_2
Jul 26th, 2008
03:09:04 PM
HahHAhahHAhahahHAhAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAhahahahahahahahahah hHhhahahhahhahahhah!!!!! Cunts.
I find your lack of faith disturbing tin-foil hatters
by G100
Jul 26th, 2008
03:29:07 PM
ALiens of mindboggling intelligence would have better things to do than probe so many of your anus's and place (incompetent) shape shifting Lizard people into our Governments.

Incidently Xiphos there's no need for that language. Surely Ignorant ,Batshit insane, Cunts was what you were looking for ?

Jimbob
by jsm1978
Jul 26th, 2008
04:10:59 PM
I didn't say that's all they do. I just said that these ufo cults, a large number of them say that the aliens try to claim responsibility for things that happen in the Bible. For example, God descending on Sinai was a ufo landing, Samson was half-alien and that is why he was strong, etc.

I didn't say everyone that says they see aliens say this, and I also said these people could just be crazy.

Hey, HARRY!
by CurtKobain
Jul 26th, 2008
04:11:08 PM
It's cool that you are all over this alien story. Now, how about spending a few bucks and buying aicn.com? What an embarassment!
ANAL PROBE!!!!!!!!!
by victor82
Jul 26th, 2008
04:17:47 PM
Ok, so now you know what happened to Elvis.
anyone seen richie?
by ironic_name
Jul 26th, 2008
04:40:23 PM
I wanna know why richie shot bobby lupo!
by ironic_name
Jul 26th, 2008
04:41:52 PM
EVERYONE IS A SKRULL!!!
by LaserPants
Jul 26th, 2008
04:44:46 PM
EVEN LORD XENU!!! HAAAAAYYYYYLLLPP!!!!
I dated a Skrull once.
by mrfan
Jul 26th, 2008
04:47:20 PM
That bitch kept changing from one form to another during intimate moments. She moved fast. Swear I could have her a sheep once. Oh, well.
STOP PROBING MY ANUS!!!
by LaserPants
Jul 26th, 2008
04:48:55 PM
It works just fine the way it is, Xenu.
If A Skrull Shits In The Woods, Does The Pope Wear A Funny Hat?
by LaserPants
Jul 26th, 2008
04:50:01 PM
Nope, but he is a pedophile!!! HAIL LORD XENU!!!
Imagine A Skrull That Could Turn Into A Different Skrull!
by LaserPants
Jul 26th, 2008
04:51:15 PM
TERRIFYING!!!
It took a while...
by Etrigan_
Jul 26th, 2008
05:29:52 PM
...to get to the Xenu jokes. I'm annoyed because it wasn't me. Aliens Ate My Buick
XENU PWNS U ALL!!!
by LaserPants
Jul 26th, 2008
06:04:57 PM
HOLY CRAP HE BEEN SHOOTING ATOMIC BOMBS IN THE VOLCANOES!!! OH NOES!!!
Oh No! The E-Meter Said I'm Under A Lot Of Stress!
by LaserPants
Jul 26th, 2008
06:19:03 PM
Will I ever be clear?! Will my Thetan ever be free?! DAMN YOU LORD XENU!!!
monkeyboy give it a rest about XF2. It's not very good
by G100
Jul 26th, 2008
09:56:11 PM
Seriously why do you want more reviews of a film nobody is very excited about ?

I've no doubt we will get one or two more reviews on this site but they probably won't be the positive glowing ones you are looking for.

Good to see you have an excuse ready in case it gets panned "AICN isn't what it used to be.. blah blah blah." (Has the fact that the two films might be completely different quality not occured to you ?)

XF2 has also been reviewed by many, many people already. For example on Rotten Tomatoes and it's currently at 32%! so I can completely forgive other reviewers on this site not being in any rush to see it.

I'd wait before jumping on as many threads in AICN as you can demanding more reviews of XF2 because, as they say, be careful what you wish for.

You know...it's just too bad
by ArmySmithaz
Jul 26th, 2008
10:32:18 PM
that they don't just come out and tell the world what really happened in 1947 in New Mexico. If you do the research, so many people on their deathbeds said that this really happened and that they and their families were threatened to shut up or face dire circumstances. I just want the truth...and they think I can't handle it, well i can, and the world can. Harry...you killed Ebert and that other dude. They don't have a show anymore. I hope your happy. And by the way, according to imdb.com Dark Knight is better than Shawshank, that's a pile of crap.
Disclosure Project
by pumaman
Jul 26th, 2008
10:57:25 PM
If you don't think we've been visited by Extra Terrestrials in our lifetime then think again: This video is testimony from military and army personnel, and will blow you away : http://www.netro.ca/disclosure /npccmenu.htm
Once I Reach Clear And Become A True Thetan, I Will Be Free!
by LaserPants
Jul 26th, 2008
10:58:43 PM
FREE OF XENU'S WRATH!!! HOW DARE YOU THROW US INTO VOLCANOES AND BLOW THEM UP WITH HYDROGEN BOMBS DROPPED FROM SPACE DC-10s!!! HOW FUCKING DARE YOU!!!
2012
by ArmySmithaz
Jul 26th, 2008
11:24:24 PM
First off I love this conversation. I've probably learned more in the past two days about the what ifs than my entire life. This is a neat debate. That said. 2012 the world ends. Go fuck yourself. I ponder, this happens in dec after Obama is reelected. I don't believe for a second that if Obama is elected that the world is going to shit, but of course muslim extremists getting their hands on nuclear weapons isn't a good thing. In 2012... the mutants with superpowers are born. That's my story and goddammit i'm sticking too it. P.S. This astronaut guy is really nuts... you people remember that female astronaut that was going to kill that other chick for sleeping with her fuck buddy. These astronauts, i'm telling zero gravity messing up your head, that and being 70 years old. God, I hope that if I make that long I don't lose my marbles.
geek or not, crap is crap
by G100
Jul 26th, 2008
11:34:31 PM
Movies shouldn't get a free pass because someone thinks they are "Geek" or not.

And you don't think perhaps good as early X-Files was saying things like it "helped to make geek internet sites like this what they are today." is verging on the hysterical ?

Whatever, you keep right on believing and trashing a site you say isn't Geek enough to review XF2 (though it has you just didn't like the review) while whining about comicon coverage.

How dare those Mamma Mia loving Entertainment Weekly types cover Comicon!

The world ended in 2000 remember
by G100
Jul 26th, 2008
11:43:11 PM
Obviously it's just going to take us 12 more years to notice.

Oh mighty Aztecs ! You're calendars strange numerical system & limited timespan has prophesised our doom !!

Sadly, you're own bloody fate doesn't exactly score you many points on the Nostradamometer.

Hole-E Kuhrap
by YouAreAllMyBastardChildren
Jul 27th, 2008
12:55:46 AM
You F-in bastards have lost yo' damn minds! Wow. Just wow.
2012 = X-men
by messi
Jul 27th, 2008
01:49:21 AM
I said it 3 years ago when I read it was an evolutionary step. That's what will happen, everyone will become X-men.
That's Right, Its All A Conspiracy
by LaserPants
Jul 27th, 2008
09:51:46 AM
A country that can't manage to stop a terrorist attack it knows is coming somehow managed to keep 1,000s of people quiet about an ongoing UFO conspiracy and faked moon landing. And EVERY SINGLE ONE of those people, except this guy, hungry for media attention, was able to keep it quiet. Riiiiiight.

The sad truth is that there is no conspiracy. There are tons of little ones, but no overarching plan. Why? Because, in the real world, everything is completely out of control. As sinister as any conspiracy theory seems to be, ultimately, they serve to assuage your fears because they comfort you with the illusion that everything is a part of some grand plan when, in truth, everything is pretty much in complete chaos all the time. The only illusion is order.
Prossor...
by Mister C
Jul 27th, 2008
12:04:19 PM
...........as strange as it may seem, perhaps we didn't get every single bit of information about the moon in just one trip......after all we dont know EVERYTHING about Earth and we live on the damn thing.....i hope your post was just a joke because it seemed awfully we-tod-ded
Aliens chime in regularly, right here, at AintitCool.com.
by JDanielP
Jul 27th, 2008
12:23:41 PM
Not only do they post here, but they even work here, too!
Live Leaks awesome!
by kirttrik
Jul 27th, 2008
12:26:29 PM
Are there Predators?
I FIND IT ODD THAT ALL THIS UFO TALK COMES WITH XFILES2
by BurgerKing
Jul 27th, 2008
12:34:13 PM
Suddenly Larry King has guests on about UFOs and all this talk about governments hiding alien information. All when the X-Files movie is about to hit theatres. COINCIDENCE? I THINK NOT
I saw Bigfoot once .....
by molded
Jul 27th, 2008
12:51:43 PM
1951! It made a sound that I would not want to hear twice in my life.
The only illusion is order!
by 'Cholera's Ghost
Jul 27th, 2008
01:03:05 PM
Word, LaserP
wrong!! the terrorist attack are all part of the plane
by hauntedhoneymoon
Jul 27th, 2008
01:39:05 PM
for a new world order, so the conspiarcy is very large but most have no idea that theyre part of it. a huge conspiracy can be easily kept together just look at how an airport is ran, it seems so complicated but everyone does their little job and it runs smoothly enough a cople problems here and there, human errors, but same thing happens with keeping conspiracies in line, either way most of the fuck ups are forgotten after a while anyway and the powers keep in control. until we all get wiped out via chemtrails and haarp weather control etc. unless the 2012 galactic allignment gets us first.
Would aliens let us fire the LHC and end the universe?
by Pixelsmack
Jul 27th, 2008
02:46:35 PM
Or are they here to stop us?
the real question is
by seabiscuits
Jul 27th, 2008
03:07:42 PM
do you want the good package or the big gun?
Check out this attack on Mitchell
by shivester
Jul 27th, 2008
03:08:27 PM
http://blogs.news.com.au/jackm arxlive/index.php/news/comment s/space_cadet/ Lost in space Icon - Comments 72 Comments | 0 Trackbacks | Permalink Jack Marx Live Blog Icon Arrow Jack Marx Friday, July 25, 2008 at 03:13pm Dipsticks all over the world are pretty excited about the fact that astronaut Edgar Mitchell, who walked on the moon with Apollo 14, has “finally” claimed that extraterrestrials have visited Earth and the truth has been covered up by the authorities. These are startling claims, it would seem, coming from a such a credible source – as one of the 12 men in history to have walked on another world, Dr Ed Mitchell is surely no suburban redneck in search of his fifteen minutes, but a bona fide NASA ‘insider’ who is at last spilling the beans. Seems people’s memories might need a little jolt when it comes to Dr Edgar Mitchell… Dr Mitchell has been making these same claims about aliens and high-level cover ups for over a decade - his interview with Kerrang Radio this week contained revelations no different to those which “shocked” NBC’s Dateline back in 1996. “I have no firsthand experience,” Mitchell told Dateline, “but I have had the opportunity to meet with people from three countries who in the course of their official duties claim to have had personal firsthand encounter experiences...From what I now understand and have experienced and seen the evidence for, I think the evidence is very strong, and large portions of it are classified....there’s definitely been a cover-up.” He went a little further when addressing a crowd at the Heritage Holiday Inn in St. Petersburg, Florida, in 2004. “A few insiders know the truth,” he said, “and are studying the bodies that have been discovered.” Mitchell went on to reveal that a “cabal” of Government insiders had been keeping the truth from every president since Kennedy. That nobody today seems to recall these sorts of revelations being made by Mitchell is not surprising – despite his being Captain Rent-A-Quote for the UFO industry for years, few in the media have paid much attention to anything Mitchell has had to say since the 70s. During Apollo 14 (his first and last mission to space for NASA), Edgar used his down time in space to conduct a series of unofficial ESP experiments with his friends back home, one of which was Swedish psychic Olof Jonsson, who Australians may recall from his involvement in the Graeme Thorne case (he flew to Australia, diverted police resources to some place far from where Graeme’s body was ultimately discovered, then flew home again). On his way back to Earth from The Moon, Mitchell underwent an “epiphany” that was to change his life, a visitation from a “non-local feeling that there is something here I don’t understand”, a “real, abstract sensation” that urged him to “understand what kind of a brain is it that allows me to experience this”. (In 1994, I interviewed Apollo 14 commander Alan Shepard, and I believe it was Mitchell’s episode to which Shepherd was referring when he said: “I have to say that I did not undergo the same spiritual experience that so affected some of my colleagues"). Mitchell had no sooner splashed down when he was beating a path to the door of one he believed would have the answers; renowned TV spoon bender Uri Geller. As something of a test of Uri’s proposed powers of telekinesis, Mitchell asked Geller to go fetch the NASA camera absent-minded Edgar had left behind on the moon. “He didn’t get the camera back,” Mitchell told Cabinet Magazine in 2003, “but he did get two lost tiepins of mine back. A piece of one of them showed up in Geller’s mouth as he was eating ice cream, to the surprise of all of us.” In 1973, Mitchell founded the Institute of Noetic Sciences, dedicated to “advancing the science of consciousness and human experience to serve individual and collective transformation”. Quackwatch includes IONS on its list of questionable organisations, no doubt because of the institute’s promotion of ”distance healing” as a cure for illness. Mitchell himself claims to have been cured of cancer thanks to good efforts of one Adam Dreamhealer (though Edger never actually had a biopsy for cancer, he insists it was there and, now, thanks to Mr. Dreamhealer, isn’t). Mitchell also claims his mother was blind until a Tibetan healer waved his hands above her head. Today, Dr Edgar Mitchell lectures frequently on the paranormal, and he decries critics fond of the ”ad hominem attack”. This is interesting considering Mitchell’s response to Bart Sibrel, the man who insists we never went to The Moon, and that all the astronauts are in on the cover-up. I know I cheered when I saw the footage of Edgar kicking the conspiracy theorist in the arse.
Uh, Haunted Honeymoon
by LaserPants
Jul 27th, 2008
03:24:26 PM
Airports aren't shadowy operations with plans for world domination. Duh.

Again, of course there are criminal conspiracies, but there is no overarching plan. Theres not! Just by the numbers it would be impossible to keep it going. You would have to keep literally thousands, maybe hundreds of thousands of people quiet and compliant. Thats IMPOSSIBLE.

Again, you are seeking comfort in the idea of some kind of plan, for good or for ill, there is a comfort in that. The truth, that the world is mostly in chaos, is, ultimately, much more terrifying.
im using the airport thing as a analogy,
by hauntedhoneymoon
Jul 27th, 2008
03:49:49 PM
all the shit that goes on their from getting your tickets to security to boarding to fueling the planes, luggage, flying the planes and being served by the stewardesses, all of it is done in a constructed order, with each individual doing his share, knowing nothing much about the other perosons job or responsibliity in the whole scheme of the airport, but if you step back and think about it its a huge operation run everyday constantly. maybe it doesn't constitute that a conspiracy exists but it seems pretty complicated to me. i'm just saying a huge conspiracy could be possible if the ones on the very top of the pyramid know of it and wer gonna reap the benefits would never speak of it ofcourse, and any scientist working on huge projects to set it fourth such as haarp may not even know what exactly theyre doin in the scheme just getting paid and supporting their families, if they even know theyre part of an evil situation or just a scientific experiment, they just want to make a living. it' a pyramid and the more closer you get to the bottom the less you know about the top. i believe in conspiracies, maybe it does comfort me to think the world is more exciting than the airport i work at and maybe it makes life more fun to listen to coast to coast am every night but i still wouldn't count anything as impossible. say say duh and act so smart because you take the stance of more of the population than i do and they all got your back and i probly could work some insult in here towards you but i don't really know you so i'll just say that calling something impossible shows a limit of your inteligance.
inteligance
by shivester
Jul 27th, 2008
04:06:14 PM
wouldn't want to limit that now, would we, hauntedhoneymoon?
ok so youre so caught up in the
by hauntedhoneymoon
Jul 27th, 2008
05:02:36 PM
spelling of a word more than it's meaning asswhole
makes you seem so smart
by hauntedhoneymoon
Jul 27th, 2008
05:10:18 PM
that you can parrot the things you were taught
Laserpants is correct
by G100
Jul 27th, 2008
06:05:36 PM
There is no grand plan. There are no omnipotent overlords.

There are powerful people & organisations with interests that sometimes co-incide and sometimes conflict.

Some of those are elected some are not. Some work to an agenda or doctrine some do not. Some just see power as the end in itself while some even try to improve the lot of the common man and the planet.

All are subject to the whims of fate and chance and can all be brought low by accident as well as unforseen & unforseeable consequences and circumstance.

The World isn't a Hollywood Movie. it's a crap shoot.

There is no one convenient shadowy cabal or NWO to blame for all the World's problems and there is no underground group of "freedom fighters" or even Superheroes struggling against them. There are however an awful lot of deluded people in the world.

The deluded mighty get taken down again and again by hubris, chance and time while on the other side of the coin we have "truthers" of 1000 varieties who cower from the silent black helicopters and labyrinthine plotters under their tin-foil hats.

What we have is a hideously complex set of interlocking systems that serves no one man or one group and never can.

The manichean myth of "goodies and baddies" is fine for fairytales but not the real world.

Though I have to say Laserpants some things CAN be kept secret if they are a high enough priority. The Manhattan Project, The Enigma Code, advanced Nuclear fission/weaponisation, and Aurora to give some examples.

But they are the exception and only the very desperate would claim that because some things can be kept secret for a while and to a greater or less degree then any crackpot theory that gets ridiculed must also be secret too.

There are no omnipotent overlords?
by thebearovingian
Jul 27th, 2008
08:56:58 PM
Really. Then why the fuck am I here? And what the hell am I going to do for my career?
Superscientist or Archvillain is still a career bearovingian
by G100
Jul 27th, 2008
11:20:14 PM
You can see their promotional movies on the Venture Bros.

There are some fine choices to make in either direction with rewarding hours and bonus packages built in.

Sadly omnipotence is but a pipe dream even for Villains and Super-Scientists but you'll still have fun discovering those limits of science and man that were not meant to be broken !

I love the scientific reasoning here
by David Cloverfield
Jul 28th, 2008
03:16:11 AM
Dude, check out the math. There are like a shitload of planets out there. Shitload is a big number, so there must be some aliens on some of them. See? Bulletproof. Although I wouldn't be that surprised if turns out there's something behind all this.
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