Besides Harry and those who are working on the film under strict NDA's I might add, who has seen this? Unless AtoZ (way to keep it topical btw) is part of the production. Possibly visual effects?

's all it is. No way is this going to satisfy the blue-blooded "Star Trek" fans.

Whoo-hoo, "Star Trek" gets to have a whole new generation (pardon the pun) of fans who'll be able to tell the ancien regime, "no, no, you got it wrong, THAT ain't" Starfleet this, a-Kirk-a-that. WORSE Abrams version'll have the casual moviegoer irk the ancien regimer with his/her, "oh, I didn't know that about . . ." Yeah, Abrams version'll help us non-Trekkies (OOOPS! "Trekkers") wakarimasu totemo desu yo.

This'll be Star Wars as Pepsi, Star Trek as "oh, let's make a new coca cola and call it "new."

All hands, indeed.

Although, reading the description Atoz does note that another Connie or rather whats left of it, can be seen and looks like the movie era ship.

How do you get billowing black smoke in the vacuum of outer space?

Probably some bullshit technobabbble.

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Describe the Enterprise -- yeah. THAT mothaf*&ka' probably needs oil, too; mega TONS of the $#!&. Dilithium f*&kin' crystals, warp drive or not, that m&^thaf(*ka' would STILL need a full tank. Nice to see we've managed to find some gasolines in the future.

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Kudos on racing to the bottom of the dialogue barrel, though. You're cool, and people respect you.

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Well BF, I'm just going by what I've heard. J.J. wants his trek to be realistic. If that were the case he, you would think, would adhere to the most important aspect of life in space, there is no fucking air!

Is that too taxing for you BF? Can you wrap your already sorry excuse for an intellect around the idea that while Star Trek may have fantastic futuristic elements in it, it was always meant to be taken seriously. In fact if you use your masterful typing skills and look around once and a while you may find that we are coming closer and closer to ST tech and that your cell phone was, at one time, considered fantastic until a designer, who no doubt was a fan of Trek made the personal communication device possible.

I'm sorry Balcony Fool did I hurt you feelings? There, there, welcome to the horrid world of anonymous internet assholery.

You've really got yourself worked into a lather over there, haven't you? At any rate, you're talking yourself in circles. Feel free to take the *themes* of Star Trek as seriously as you like, but the science of Trek has always been very, very silly. You can pick and choose the things that annoy you, of course, but don't act like those particular elements are somehow more ridiculous than, say, time travel. You'll embarrass yourself.

Thanks for complimenting my typing skills, though.

Either that, or the Andorians are going to travel back in time, kill Abe Lincoln, and the nuclear war between the Confederates and the Nazis will exterminate humanity. Bleak future, man.

I find it interesting that TheGhostWhoLurks brings up one nit and I make a little joke then all these arm chair physicists come out of the wood work. It’s a damn good thing you fuck heads aren’t technical advisers in Hollywood; we’d be hip deep in fiery explosions in space and sound in space and….Oh, right. So Fyzz how’s Hollywood treating ya?

I will give you this; there could be a dark mist from particulates. But It wouldn’t billow it would spray or project out. adambalm, what is the oxidizer what is feeding it to make it burn? It’s not apparent therefore, it’s a valid nit. The triangle of burning, Heat, Oxygen and fuel. If any one is missing then it cannot burn. Space is absolute zero cold, the only way you can have a fire on the space station is if it’s inside within the contained oxygenated area. And as far as the shuttle, those are provided inside the burning chamber of the rocket. But to arbitrarily have something burning in open space is absurd, because there is no oxygen source and there is no heat. As a matter of fact absolute zero, no heat. Good luck burning. Without the air and air pressure around it it cannot billow. And saying It’s just a movie therefore we should shut our brains off is a fucking cop out. The whole point of Science fiction as a medium is to create discussion about science fact. And thus, the discussion were having now.

Balcony Fool, I am in a lather and it's quite sunderific! So what if I nitpicked Dickhead? Why do you give a shit? Does riding Abrams joy stick make you feel entitled to defend his honor? It’s not like there’s a whole hell of a lot to discuss but some vague rambling from Mr. AtoZ. That may or may not be true. You want to dismiss Trek as a silly fantasy I won't dissuade you. But, you may want to tell that to the countless scientists and physicists who were inspired by trek and who, in some cases, have made it their life’s work to recreate treks silly technology. But then again you’re too busy being a smug tool on AICN to converse with a real fucking physicist. I guess you’ll just have to make due with adambalm and Fyzz.

Oh, Balcony Fool, Abrams also says he loves me more and you forgot your condoms and lube in his bedroom. I must say I’m impressed by your practice of safe sex. Good for you!

Add to Friends, the smoke is from air leaking out.