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Capone Attempts to Steal Bella Away from Edward!! TWILIGHT's Kristen Stewart and Director Catherine Hardwicke!!

RIP Randy Pausch by ArcadianDS	Jul 25th, 2008 11:16:48 AM
The "last lecture" guy passed away today. RIP
i doubt i'll get an answer by SpawnofAchilles	Jul 25th, 2008 11:26:34 AM
but how did the author change the rules of vampirism?
Vampires + Werewolf = Surefire Hit by Iowa Snot Client	Jul 25th, 2008 11:28:27 AM
Word.
"surreal" by dingus khan	Jul 25th, 2008 11:32:52 AM
can we get a new adjective? i'm sick of things being described as surreal. i'd even settle for "this whole experience has been dream-like."
Who gives a shit about this movie? by JBouganim1	Jul 25th, 2008 11:32:55 AM
Each book sold a couple million copies..thats about $30-$40 million at box office total. Or a day of Dark Knight
new vamp rules by paradisefound	Jul 25th, 2008 11:35:40 AM
Essentially, she's sort of re-interpreted classic vampire myth, so they don't die in the sun, but their skin is rock-hard, like a million tiny diamonds... hence they don't go in the sun because they'd sparkle and give themselves away. They can't be killed with a stake because they're rock-hard, aren't afraid of garlic or crosses, etc. They can't hypnotize or turn into bats, but they are ridiculously beautiful and lure in prey that way. They're super fast and super strong. I think there's something in there about some of them living off animals a la Angel from Buffy. the werewolf stuff is a different mythology, too.
@JBouganim1 by paradisefound	Jul 25th, 2008 11:38:44 AM
I don't think you understand... the fans are bound and determined to make this movie a big hit so there will be sequels... think the avril fans who got her video watched 92 million fucking times. From what I've read. some of them are already planning to see it ten times apiece. It's like a bizarro Titantic.
i hope this movie fails! by Stainboy136	Jul 25th, 2008 11:44:20 AM
Vampires are so sexy!
changing vampire rules? by Bouncy X	Jul 25th, 2008 11:47:11 AM
there arent any set in stone rules that you HAVE to follow. sure there's a little list of rules that have become part of pop culture or whatever that everybody knows but there arent any actual rules that everyone who makes vampire books/movies has to follow. many movies change or create their own so i dont understand why some made a big deal about this story. but the book is 500 pages? wow...thats a lot of tween reading, thank god for movies.
oops i forgot to add by Bouncy X	Jul 25th, 2008 11:47:48 AM
kristen stewart is fucking yum...and now she's legal so i dont have to pretend to feel bad anymore..woohoo.
I saw my little sister start reading this book by Quin the Eskimo	Jul 25th, 2008 11:49:37 AM
last Saturday. She finished it Sunday afternoon. This is gonna make a billion dollars.
unfortunately, i know all about this project. by occula	Jul 25th, 2008 11:50:24 AM
it is unbelievably retarded. the books were written by a mormon so there is no real violence or sex in them AT ALL. there is no real re-interpretation of the vampire myth either because the author has stated repeatedly she never read any vampire books (including dracula!) or seeing any movies before writing hers - it's just her own made-up romance story. the source material is really weak and childish, so, therefore, despite hardwick's skill with the gritty stories she's tackled before, this one not only looks like an episode of 'smallville', but it'll play like one. there's just nothing there.
i would also say by occula	Jul 25th, 2008 11:52:02 AM
i don't understand why this has turned into such a big deal, but whoever wrote above about fans watching avril lavigne's dumb video 92 million times nailed it. NEVER underestimate the power of teenage girls when they decide to mobilize.
Ledger in Dogtown better than Brokeback Mountain? by messi	Jul 25th, 2008 11:59:04 AM
unless you also mean wild but brokeback and dark knight are his best, hell some of the best work any actor has done.
So vampires walk around during the day? by spectrebeeyatch	Jul 25th, 2008 12:00:51 PM
How do you kill them? Or is the book more about fucking vampires than killing them?
occula by messi	Jul 25th, 2008 12:01:43 PM
does this movie have Clark Kent fighting Bizarro and then dispersing a water damn with heat vision? Please don't insult smallville. There's more action in 10 mins than the entirity of Superman Returns.
This could go either way... by critch	Jul 25th, 2008 12:16:22 PM
Not in quality, cause the trailer looks like hot buttered shit. But as far as box office, this could get the teenage girls, although this probably still wouldn't reach 100 mil, just based on nobody else will touch a romantic teenager vampire movie with a 20 foot pole. It's like Underworld, and those only made 50 mil.
Vampires sparkle in the sunlight? by Raptor37	Jul 25th, 2008 12:24:39 PM
I know that they aren't following conventional vamp rules or anything, but seriously? That is just stupid.
I tried to read these books... by OBSD	Jul 25th, 2008 12:32:20 PM
But then I realized that I am not part of this series' demographic. I am not 13 years old. Or a Girl. Or mentally retarded.
not that bad by kaiser117	Jul 25th, 2008 12:41:51 PM
Honestly, the books aren't that bad if you can muscule your way through the mushy love story stuff. they ARE pretty violent, because the only way to kill a vampire in the books is to rip them to pieces and light them on fire. and they do, especially in the third one. oh, and OCCULA? no mormon-bashing. respect other people's religion, please.
My girlfriend totally loves this stuff by dogstardude	Jul 25th, 2008 12:45:13 PM
She's a pretty damned smart chick, doing a double degree and already has had her honours thesis published at Oxford, yet she's nutso for this Twilight stuff. I don't know. It doesn't really grab me personally, but the author must have hit the jackpot of female wish-fulfillment. Apparently her characters are really well developed for a tween novel and the sex thing is conveniently sidelined by the whole if Edward (the vampire dude) "loses control" he'll kill the girl whilst fucking her. Judging by totally subjective anecdotal standards, this movie will make a bajillion dollars.
yes please respect other religions by ArcadianDS	Jul 25th, 2008 12:47:28 PM
and release the 5 guys being charged with Statutory Rape as a result of that polygamist ranch round-up. cuz thats a religion and all. Just because they impregnate 14 year old girls is no reason to hate.
The books are actually not bad... by Stormshadow4life	Jul 25th, 2008 01:01:53 PM
From the 2 trailers I've seen, the movie looks like AIDS
Good literature... by T-RACE	Jul 25th, 2008 01:02:13 PM
doesn't have an age limit. Of course everyone has their own idea of good literature, but I myself loved these books. Occula, it actually does get pretty violent towards the end, and if you've read the third one there's even more with the addition of the issues of sex. Oh, and probably the biggest change in the whole vampire rules thing is that these vamps don't have fangs, but their teeth are super sharp and the vamps carry a venom that can spread through the blood stream thus creating another. It's supposed to take about three days I believe, and it hurts like a bitch. Lots of screaming involved.
oh yeah... by Stormshadow4life	Jul 25th, 2008 01:04:33 PM
Kristen is gorgeous! So is the girl playing Alice
i'm not watching this until... by frankenfickle	Jul 25th, 2008 01:11:43 PM
...they make a movie of "gone". "gone" RULES.
So they aren't really vampires. by Raptor37	Jul 25th, 2008 01:33:21 PM
Just really good looking (how exactly does becoming a vampire make you attractive?), diamond skinned, cannibals. No stakes No sunlight No fangs No garlic No crosses I understand changing the rules. But these things sound like completely different creatures that author just called vampires.
OMG!OMG!OMG!OMG!OMG!OMG!OMG!OMG! by Quin the Eskimo	Jul 25th, 2008 01:36:13 PM
OMG!OMG!OMG!OMG!OMG!OMG!OMG!OM G!OMG!OMG!OMG!OMG!
This is going to be another Sex and the City by zikade zarathos	Jul 25th, 2008 01:41:47 PM
that opens "big" (50-60 mil) and then drops like a stone.
BORING by Rick Flemming	Jul 25th, 2008 01:53:38 PM
This sounds about as entertaining as a commerical for the Ronco Electric Food Dehydrator. Come to think of it, those spots are pretty snappy. flemmingonfilms.blogspot.com
Raptor37 by T-RACE	Jul 25th, 2008 01:56:22 PM
Their attractiveness is explained as another way for them to lure their prey. They also apparently smell really good too... unless you're a werewolf. As far as the whole rules thing, the biggest vamp rule is drinking blood. Other than that a lot of authors take liberties with the concept.
I don't get the Robert Pattinson appeal by Dwide Shrewd	Jul 25th, 2008 02:20:10 PM
He wasn't good-looking enough as Cedric Diggory, and (according to my wife who has read the books, I haven't) he's nowhere near good-looking enough to play Edward. I tend to agree, based solely on his appearance on the cover of EW a few weeks ago as Edward. LOL! He looks like a fucking douche! These books are emotional porn, and nothing more. The film will be the sisterhood of the travelling pants. It'll make $40 mill opening weekend, and then never be heard from again.
The trailers are SO crappy! by RedHHades	Jul 25th, 2008 02:26:08 PM
It is unbelievable how the fans of the book are buying the tottal crapstatics of the movie in a so blind way! BTW, WHY AICN id giving so much spotlight to this idiotic looking movie, full of idiotic teen fans?
Lots of monsters/demons are known for drinking blood. by Raptor37	Jul 25th, 2008 02:26:18 PM
One could make a case for the "vampires" actually being really smart zombies. I mean, they are dead people, they eat their victims, and they can spread their "infection". These "vampires" have the same number of shared characteristics with Zombies as they do with "classic" vampires.
These things are overrated by RedHHades	Jul 25th, 2008 02:30:42 PM
because the fan base, full of teens enchanted with the teen porn of the stories are so vocal about it. But by no means that reflects at the box office.
"...best director working today who understands how hormonally c by REMcycle	Jul 25th, 2008 03:28:49 PM
Um, no. CH is a complete Larry Clark wannabe hack at a subterranean level the likes of which Rob Zombie and Uwe Boll will never drop. Please stop trying to be a starfucker with these interviews!
Kristen Stewart.... SPOOOGE!!!!! by Damien Chowder	Jul 25th, 2008 03:30:33 PM
How long I have waited for her to be of legal spoogeing age. Ahhhh... there you go.
Teens?? Haven't any of you heard of the Twilight Moms??? by Jugs	Jul 25th, 2008 03:53:04 PM
They are the scariest thing about Twilight..the millions of older fans. You guys have no idea how big this thing is.
$90 million opening weekend by Magic Rat	Jul 25th, 2008 04:03:14 PM
at least. I wouldn't be shocked if it did $110 million opening weekend.
No... 180 million OW by RedHHades	Jul 25th, 2008 04:06:36 PM
It will beat Batman. We are already seeing it... sure.fine.whatever. This things smells "Sisterhood of Travelling Pants" or "Eragon" all over again. Maybe a bit more, as the tweens will likely watch it twice.
Not just Teens by Potch	Jul 25th, 2008 04:56:54 PM
I just have to reiterate that the fanbase for this goes far beyond teen girls. Adults, men, women, all types are gearing up for Twilight. It's fantastic. Get used to it because it's not going away anytime soon.
FUCK TWILIGHT, FUCK IT UP ITS STUPID ASS by DOGSOUP	Jul 25th, 2008 06:23:20 PM
My 17 year old niece worships the books and was furious at the casting choices. She bitched so hard she would have done you guys proud.
Hey Potch by RedHHades	Jul 25th, 2008 08:25:42 PM
You "twilighters" have no idea about how big is the world. people overseas never heard about it. It looks like a poor episode of Smallville crossed with Underworld (not in a good way). I feel sad thinking grow up women could like those type of poor written vampire tales. You don't know what is a good vampire story. The fanbase if based in tweens who worship Lindsay Lohan and Hannah Montana. Enough for me to avoit it at all costs!
RedHHades by T-RACE	Jul 25th, 2008 08:40:30 PM
Since there are fansites spanning from South America to Czech Republic, I'd say it's a bit more popular than you think. Besides, if you haven't read it then how do you know if it's good or not? What constitutes as a good vampire story to you?
I AM from South America by RedHHades	Jul 25th, 2008 09:46:55 PM
and no one knows about it the way you are saying.No. No. Or no one is interested. Cheesy stories about American tweens - vampires or not -aren't liked outside America. That's the truth. When I was a teen I was an X-Phile. At the time it was the coolest show on TV. Lot's of fansites, shippers, non-shippers, fan-fictions and all. people were all the time on the web discussing M&S potential "romance". It seemed the movie would be the best thing on Earth, plus, make blockbusterish money. It didn't. I know what is to be a fan of something and get blind about the appeal of it. In the last years, aside Harry Potter, no book mania became a movie mania. It takes MUCH more than a story that works on a book to become a good movie and for what I saw about Twilight until now, it seems the tweens are buying the crappyness too easy (as always). The Historian is a good vampire book. Dracula is a good book. Some fron Anne Rice. Tween angst full of soft porn doesn't make good vampire tales.
Why couldn't..., by Barrock	Jul 25th, 2008 09:56:23 PM
They turn Necroscope into a movie, instead of this crap?
excuse me. by occula	Jul 25th, 2008 10:55:44 PM

allow me to retaliate. by occula	Jul 25th, 2008 11:04:44 PM
one, i did not insult mormons. i pointed out that the author is a mormon and therefore there is no sex or violence in the books. when asked by a rabid fan what the main vampire character does when his mortal girlfriend has her period, the author's response was 'gross. i don't know.' she will not read books or see films involving sex or violence BECAUSE she is a mormon. i have read all the books because i am working on my own YA project and wanted to know what the fuss was all about, and i am one hundred percent confident in my judgment that her writing is poor; but her management team is stellar. i also stand by my comparison to 'smallville.' i would also compare the TV-quality of the film to any number of TV shows that are on network with limited budgets. i'm sure 'smallville' has some great writing, because it's quite successful, but i specifically meant the TV-ness of what we've seen versus the more aggressive filmic qualities we would expect from a well-made fantasy film.
and one more soapbox thing... by occula	Jul 25th, 2008 11:12:01 PM
if anybody has read the books, then they should be aware of the morality at play which dictates the main character get married directly out of high school so she can sleep with her boyfriend. her grasp of what constitutes a strong female character is so pathetically backwards overall that it appalls me that so many young women worship the character and everything she stands for; spinelessness, letting your man control you and take care of everything, and spending every waking second obsessing over when your boyfriend may or may not control you. blegh.
occula by Magic Rat	Jul 26th, 2008 12:05:48 AM
I think one thing you're overlooking in your point about the morality play of the book is that Bella is obsessed with Edward because he's made out to be the PERFECT man in almost every way imaginable. Plus, the guy is from the 1800's, IIRC, and has kind-of old fashioned morals. He's not a super sexed-up teenager. Plus, in the books they do break up and she dates someone else and falls for him too, though, obviously not as much as she had for Edward.
She was hot in Into The Wild by theredtoad	Jul 26th, 2008 12:54:31 PM
Gawd I love that movie.
I Heard They Have CGI Frog Brothers... by Buzz Maverik	Jul 26th, 2008 08:27:12 PM
...using images of a teenaged Feldhaim and that other kid, who stake the bloodsuckers.
In NEAR DARK, How Come... by Buzz Maverik	Jul 26th, 2008 08:29:59 PM
..they could save the Dixie Chick future husband with a transfusion but they couldn't save the other vampires? Of course, Bill Paxton, Lance Henrickson, Vasquez, that kid vampire and Jenny Wright were too cool to need saving.
Redhades by Potch	Jul 28th, 2008 10:18:23 AM
Actually, it is in fact quite popular overseas. I've met people from the UK, Brazil, Australia, India, South Africa, and China that are all fans. Also, it does not only appeal to "Tweens". There are websites and message boards dedicated to older Twilight fans. I for one am 30 years old and happen to extremely enjoy the books.
Bacci by Potch	Jul 28th, 2008 10:23:05 AM
Actually, that description of the Host isn't really accurate. The story is not about Melanie. The story is actually from the point of view of the soul living inside of Melanie. While you do get get some insight to Melanie, the story is about Wanderer's journey and her struggle. She is conflicted between her loyalty to her own race and her new found emotions for her new human friends. Throughout the trials that she goes through, she discovers what it truly means to be human.

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