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Interview with the director by shineboxmp	Jul 25th, 2008 02:30:08 AM
I found one at Big Shiny Robot.... It's got pictures and more spilling of voice talent: http://www.bigshinyrobot.com/r eviews/archives/544
FIRST! by xon50	Jul 25th, 2008 02:42:16 AM

damn by xon50	Jul 25th, 2008 02:42:37 AM
thought i had it
Oh yeah, don't let the kids see Dark Knight! by Valar1	Jul 25th, 2008 03:45:37 AM
Everybody keeps talking about the movie like it'll turn kids' brains to mush. What, they can't handle questions about morality, questions about what it takes to be a hero- the sacrifices, the pain, the heartache it requires to do the right thing. God forbid a little kid has to endure finding that out until he's shaving. There is nothing, I repeat, nothing more violent or scary in that movie that hasn't been seen on shitty cartoony shows like Smallville. The only reason adults are surprised and crying foul is that the movie is a tragedy and ends on a less than upbeat note. Boo freakin hoo. I swear, a kid can probably handle the moral ambiguity of the film better than some of the adults reviewing the movie. Grow the hell up, get a pair of balls.
Diedrich Bader?!?!?! by korahn	Jul 25th, 2008 04:50:51 AM
I'm both kind of excited and disturbed by the fact that they got Bader as Batman. I love his work in Office Space, Drew Carey Show and Jay & Silent Bob Strike Back but I really can't see him as Batman. Scene: Batman and Green Arrow are having tea. Batman - "Oh what a lovely tea party"
"Warner Bros. Animation has, thankfully, decided to lighten up o by UMAGA	Jul 25th, 2008 05:05:30 AM
Yes, just WHAT WE NEED. Have you ever heard of Batman: The Animated Series. I took my six year old nephew to The Dark Knight and he loved it until he fell asleep.
I really really miss B:TAS by lord_zedd	Jul 25th, 2008 06:20:14 AM
Yes, even after the 1997 revamped character designs. The show had such a class to it that is still unparalleled in any other animated kids series. Will we ever get any more direct to DVD/Blu-ray movies in that continuity, or is Warner shunning it off still?
Valar1 - dumbshit by donnarumsfeld	Jul 25th, 2008 06:36:57 AM
There's a lot of research done by professionals that indicates that it's bad to expose children to imagery that involves cruelty and violence. I'm not saying that type of imagery is bad per se, but it is bad for kids.
Wee! Gotham City Is Fun! by LaserPants	Jul 25th, 2008 07:08:08 AM
I know a fun trick... want to watch me make this pencil disappear?
It has to be better than the last Batman cartoon, right? by rbatty024	Jul 25th, 2008 07:08:26 AM
The Batman was godawful. The lighter touch is nice because it avoids any comparisons to the Dini/Timm version, which was part of the problem with The Batman. It felt watered down.
Hey Commissioner! Check out channel nine! by Spyhunter	Jul 25th, 2008 07:23:07 AM
It's the breast exam! Check out this chick!
FUCKIN A by ciroslive	Jul 25th, 2008 07:27:21 AM
This could work as a kid-friendly alternative to our Dark Knight but not something we'll go out of our way to watch like the JLA series...
Diedrich Bader of Snickers advert fame? by kinanswer	Jul 25th, 2008 07:31:38 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =GPRscxQZs8E
The Dork Knight by Kentucky Colonel	Jul 25th, 2008 07:36:50 AM
Could be fun. Has to be better than "The Batman"...which was simply unwatchable.
And if you miss Batman TAS... by Kentucky Colonel	Jul 25th, 2008 07:40:42 AM
Go get it on DVD. All four seasons are on my Top Shelf, right beside "The Wire" and "Looney Tunes Golden Collection" I-V, LOTR & Star Trek I,II, III, IV, VI and First Contact. Pretty good company, n'est ce pas?
Valar1... by akiraclass	Jul 25th, 2008 07:44:07 AM
If I have to listen to one more 'adult' complain about people suggesting that kids not go see this, I'm going to puke. If you want to see it, great. It's the best movie I've seen this summer. Take your friends, if you have them. But don't force little 8-year old Valar2 to go see it JUST BECAUSE YOU WANT TO. My 7 year old wanted to go, but won't. You know why? Because I'm his parent, that's why. And I make the decisions on what he is exposed to, to the best of my ability. I'm his PARENT; I don't always have to be his friend. You're probably the type of person who lets their eight year old see 'Saw' and thinks it's OK just to tell him 'it's all fake', like that's all that matters. We're not telling you to not see it, we're just sick of the lazy, selfish parents who can't get a sitter but want to see a movie so they'll take the kids instead of making a sacrifice (and I use that term very loosely) and, um, I don't know...NOT SEEING THE FRICKIN MOVIE! It's the people who are afraid to say no to their kids that need to grow a pair, not the other way around.
Yeah... too bad... by Kid Z	Jul 25th, 2008 08:05:44 AM
... the design of this series looks like ass. I'm just sayin'... and you KNOW I'm right!
EPIC FAIL by Cannabis Holocaust	Jul 25th, 2008 08:06:21 AM

"Kids under sixteen or seventeen..." LMFAO by Cannabis Holocaust	Jul 25th, 2008 08:07:20 AM
This douche really is living in the 50's.
"The Batman" was a VERY kid friendly show by Cannabis Holocaust	Jul 25th, 2008 08:08:35 AM
Why the fuck do we need another?
No, Dietrich Bader of... by Kid Z	Jul 25th, 2008 08:10:00 AM
..."Rex Kwon Do" fame.
And if you thought "The Batman" sucked... by Cannabis Holocaust	Jul 25th, 2008 08:17:54 AM
just wait until you get a load of this shit. Even the art direction makes me want to puke.
Batman for kids by Geekhaterssuck	Jul 25th, 2008 08:22:42 AM
Eh I have no problem with that. Not everything should be for adults. I'm just worried about the quality of it all the animation does look very um "seventies" to me. We'll see.
Beyond, League and Legion Were All Kind of Lame by cowboyone	Jul 25th, 2008 08:24:09 AM
The writing and art on the Dini & Bruce Timm series were much better.
akiraclass- tell me what parts of DK show violence? by Valar1	Jul 25th, 2008 08:27:21 AM
Most of the film the violence is implied. Even the pencil trick is implied- the pencil is not actually shown to have gone in the guy's nostril, Joker cutting the black pimp is not shown, cops are shot offscreen, explosions occur where later we find out key figures are inside the event. If every time a cop is shot offscreen, or if a psychopath talks about how he got his facial scars it is too much for you, it'd be best if you let the grownups watch the movies. Stick to BTAS.
Conditioning kids to be vapid, utter pussies by Cannabis Holocaust	Jul 25th, 2008 08:28:22 AM
Anyone remember the 80's and parts of the 90's when children's entertainment had some actual value and didn't completely patronize it's audience? Shows like that are becoming harder and harder to find. Shit like this proves it.
There's absolutely no need for this show by Cannabis Holocaust	Jul 25th, 2008 08:36:34 AM
"The Batman" was about as kid friendly as Batman should get and that show had basically turned into a Brave and the Bold/Justice League show for kids anyway before they pulled the plug to make way for this crap.
And how exactly was Batman: TAS not kid friendly? by Cannabis Holocaust	Jul 25th, 2008 08:47:13 AM
It doesn't matter if you're 5 or 50, that was a great show that ANYONE can enjoy. The very definition of an excellent, classic series.
Just bring back Justice League Unlimited for now by Cannabis Holocaust	Jul 25th, 2008 09:14:02 AM
It should've went on for at least a few more seasons anyway, so many more characters to introduce and storylines to explore. It was a GOOD show that ANYBODY can watch and enjoy regardless of their age. I'm done.
"kids under sixteen or seventeen" by smackfu	Jul 25th, 2008 09:36:23 AM
Wow this guy is out of it. I was watching Friday the 13th and Nightmare on Elm Steet movies when I was 9. When I was a little kid my 2 favorite cartoons were Voltron and Robotech, because they had the balls to actually kill off main characters. As a kid I really appreciated that the cartoon was actually willing to lay down some heavy shit on me. I'm sure kids will love the Dark Knight for the same reason. As much as you as a parent think they love happy, bubbly shit, that's only because that's all we feed them.
Valar1... by akiraclass	Jul 25th, 2008 10:04:01 AM
It's not just violence-I don't know about you, but I thought it was definitely possible if not probable that Dent was going to kill someone in Gordon's family at the end. Why would I want to try to explain to my seven year old why 'the two-faced man was going to kill the nice man's little boy'? Also, I don't buy the "I did it when I was 'X', so I'll go out of my way to expose my child to it" argument. I will be the first to show my kid 'Raiders' and 'Temple of Doom' when the time is right, because I loved them and I'm sure he will too when he's old enough. The idea of having to watch a particular movie or tv show in order to 'grow some balls', 'be a man' or not have children become 'vapid, utter pussies' is totally ridiculous. If you're counting on tv and movies for those things, then there are much bigger problems at hand.
Schumacher said Batman needed to lighten up too... by DEX	Jul 25th, 2008 10:11:51 AM
... I'm just saying. This is how it starts. I hope the Brave and the Bold isn't crap.
BTAS is the gold standard of Batman television by BLWiseass	Jul 25th, 2008 10:40:25 AM
this shit won't even be aluminum.
by shineboxmp	Jul 25th, 2008 10:41:58 AM
My kid is 6 and loved Dark Knight. Yeah, I thought it would be a little intense, but he loves the Indiana Jones movies and the Lord of the Rings movies and my wife and I saw it made the decision he could see it. (Actually the thing that made us buckle was that we took him to see Hellboy II and the tooth fairies didn't even make him flinch.) It depends on the kid. I respect the decision not to take your kid to it, but there are kids who are okay with it.
Why was Justice League Unlimited cancelled? by The Nihilist	Jul 25th, 2008 10:49:05 AM
Seriously, I've never heard an explanation from anyone official...why? Why did it have to go away? It was note perfect, Saturday evening crack. I'd put "Epilogue" up there as one of the finest scripted half-hours of all time. The voice work was wonderful. The stories were intelligent enough for adults yet safe enough for kids. There has never been a better depiction of super heroes on any screen of any size, full stop. And yes, I'm saying that pound for pound, inch for inch, it was a better super hero vehicle than "The Dark Knight" (which is high praise, because the movie is awesome). Seriously, why did it get cancelled? And is there any hope in hell of it ever coming back?
If I had Kids, I wouldn't let them watch this. by Oski	Jul 25th, 2008 10:54:28 AM
They'll watch my DVDs of Batman The Animated Series.
Not as "for kids" as you're all whining about, either by shineboxmp	Jul 25th, 2008 11:04:29 AM
Also... I don't know how many of you read the interview with the director I linked to at the top, but seriously, this isn't just a kids show and he said they're getting away with way more violence than they could do on JLU.... So read that other interview with the director before you keep complaining.
Actually.... by shineboxmp	Jul 25th, 2008 11:27:48 AM
I just watched the trailer and it looks pretty "for kids..."
You people are all guilty of child abuse... by Jobacca	Jul 25th, 2008 11:34:46 AM
And by You People,I mean the ones who wont let their children go see Dark Knight. Can you imagine how much that sucks..especially if your kid is a Batman fan? Especially if all their friends have seen it? When I was a kid my parents were actually,you know,PARENTS, At a very early age they sat me down and taught me the difference between fantasy and reality. As a result,I got to watch James Bond movies and Jaws and Alien and Predator and all the other great movies of my childhood. You do your precious croth fruit no favors my sheltering them. Yours are the children that will wind up crying in the shower wearing their underwear after high school gym class...the future is going to be full of nothing but 40 year old virgins sitting around their parents basements in their P.J.'s singing I Wish I was an Oscar Meyer Weiner and thinking happy/happy joy/joy thoughts!
God Damn Typos!!!! by Jobacca	Jul 25th, 2008 11:36:59 AM
This is the oldest fucking board on the internet,and they wont make with a fucking edit feature so we can fix our typos? Jesus!
JLU was cancelled because... by Jobacca	Jul 25th, 2008 11:44:27 AM
Of the $,of course. Cartoon Network had to pay the WB a license fee to air the show. The WB also had all the merchandise rights,so the only profit Cartoon Network could make off the show was with advertising-which was not enough to even cover the licensing fees from the WB,so they let it go to focus on properties developed In House. So why didnt the WB pick up JLU for their saturday morning KidsWB animation block? I have no clue...go ask Bruce Timm or something.
How About BATBABIES? by LaserPants	Jul 25th, 2008 11:51:24 AM
Instead of Gotham City, its Gotham Kindergarten, and Batman is a toddler, and so are all the villains! That would be so cute! So, they could take the level of awesome that the Batman has reached in film, and totally destroy that! What a great fucking idea! Yay! Wheee!
I Forced My Kids To Watch THE DARK KNIGHT At Knifepoint by LaserPants	Jul 25th, 2008 11:53:25 AM
They were all like, "daddy, please, I'm scared," and I was all like, "shhhhUT THE FUCK UP!!! I'M THE FATHER HERE AND I MAKE THE RULES!!!" Then I cut one of them just a little bit. After that they shut the fuck up and enjoyed the movie. Fuckin' kids. They're SO FUCKING GAY!!!
akiraclass- well said, I still think there isn't that much viole by Valar1	Jul 25th, 2008 12:16:37 PM
I get your point about the scary scenarios in DK-but my point is they don't actually show anything that graphic- all the violence is up to the imagination of the viewer. And kids, with a decreased sphere of experience and thus imagination, can't fill in the blanks when Joker slashes a guy's face offscreen, adults can and will and then they come out of the theater pissing and moaning about how the movie is excessively violent- where the hell were these people when Obi Wan cut Darth Maul in half? where were they when Spidey let the glider impale Norman Osborne? It's great that all of you are looking out for your kids but since when did offscreen or impending violence [like the scene with Twoface and Gordon's son] become more traumatic to a kid than actual graphic filmed violence- like Darth Maul getting cut or Qui-Gon getting impaled. I think all of you are approaching the movie from a totally subjective visceral place because you were shocked that the movie sucked in your imagination and made you uncomfortable- if you would take a step back and look objectively you'd see the movie isn't that violent- it only seems so to adults who can fill in the blanks of the implications with their well developed imaginations. I doubt a kid could.
Coming Soon-Watchmen Babies in V for Vacation! by Jobacca	Jul 25th, 2008 12:22:42 PM
Nuff said!
Good points, Valar... by akiraclass	Jul 25th, 2008 12:40:32 PM
Wait a minute--did we just rationally discuss opposing ideas and see that each person's opinion could be valid? Apologies if I offended in my first post.
akiraclass... by Alex Childress	Jul 25th, 2008 12:43:42 PM
You're only half full of shit. You're right about a parent not needing to be their kids friend, and good for you for telling him he can't go instead of whining about how dark Dark Knight is. What you do miss is the parents who ARE capable of telling their children the difference between reality and fantasy. As a child, I was allowed to watch whatever I wanted. If I had a question about anything, I asked my parents. If I thought I could do those things, I got smacked in the head and brought back to reality. I'm not crazy, I'm not a killer, I don't suffer from mental disease or defect. So before you condemn a parent for taking their kid to see The Dark Knight, why don't you pull YOUR head out of your ass and realize that there's more than one way to raise a kid.
google ZEITGEIST video then! by shogunshin	Jul 25th, 2008 12:44:36 PM
batman is gonna rock, but they mentioned ZEITEIST. anyone else see that freaky movie? its a MUST see. a big ole' dose of the RED PILL. be warned, do you want the blue pill or RED PILL. take the red pill, and plunge into the world of the ZEITGEIST film
"Thankfully" Lighten up Batman? by OBSD	Jul 25th, 2008 12:54:37 PM
Oh sweet christ. Here we go again. Every time the Warner Brothers make this character (who watched his parent get shot in the face, by the way.) light and frothy, they are creating a generation of parents who think that if THIS version of Batman is okay, then every incarnation of Batman must be okay for their three year old to watch. And then we get parents upset that the Dark Knight is "too dark" for little Billy. When this douche says "old school" about Batman, he means Adam west and that cheesy 50's garbage, not the stuff from when the Batman comic started out and he had a gun and killed people.
Alex Childress... by akiraclass	Jul 25th, 2008 01:02:48 PM
First off, there's a difference between 6-7 year-olds and 10-11 year olds-would you agree? I'm only talking about LITTLE kids here. Second, to use my previous example, you're saying that if a child wants to go see SAW I should run down to Best Buy, grab him a copy and get the popcorn-a-poppin', then sit back and answer all his questions with 'it's OK, it's not real!' and, what-I'm father of the year? I'm sure my kid will think that when he's up all night with nightmares... Is that what you're saying? I never said anybody would become a serial killer, and I'm not for censorship. Did your parents let you watch porn? If not, why not? Because it was, dare I say, inappropriate? If they did, well then...
Holy leap in logic, batman! by OBSD	Jul 25th, 2008 01:31:26 PM
Sorry to jump in on this conersation, a kid may ask to see the Dark Knight, he may even ask to see Saw. No kid is ever, EVER, going to ask their parents to watch porn, so that straw man argument has to go out the window. That being said, everyone has to find a parenting style that is right for the kid. Your job as a parent is to make sure your kid doesn't spend a cent on therapy bvecause of you when he's an adult. Then again, I don't have kids and until I do I have know idea what I'm really talking about when it comes to the subject of parenting.
OBSD-right on... by akiraclass	Jul 25th, 2008 01:42:54 PM
I was addressing Alex's statement that he got to watch 'whatever he wanted'-I tell my kids all the time what's the difference between reality and fantasy in what they're watching, but I don't feel the need to show them things I think are inappropriate in order to do so.
I hear you, akiraclass by OBSD	Jul 25th, 2008 02:25:06 PM
Everyone has a different idea of inappropriate. I had two friend with children about the same age. One thought that violence was okay to show her daughter, but not nudity. The other didn't have a problem with having her son watch nudity, but didn't want to expose him to violence. Obviously, there were limits to both. There's no way that friend #1 was going to show her daughter Faces Of Death and there's no way that friend #2 was going to let her kid watch Deep Throat. When it comes to kids and entertainment, it's all about the specific kid, and knowing the material. Most of the very small children were taken to the Dark Knight because of the parents' ignorance of the material, and not because their parents watched the movie themselves (or read reviews) and made an informed judgement based on how well they know their kids. Their is a difference between having a cool parent who watches "r" rated movies with you sometimes, and one that lets you watch whatever they want because they couldn't care less.
I know Why JLU was cancelled by Phategod2	Jul 25th, 2008 04:48:55 PM
Because Cartoon Network is a bunch of cheap-o's What they do is green light a show for 3 years. and sydicate till the ratings drop. They treated JLU as a extension to JL, and cut it cause it was cost effective.
akiraclass- you have no reason to apologize... by Valar1	Jul 25th, 2008 07:39:22 PM
Anyone who comes to this site knows it gets hyperbolic and profane. Heck, that's why I come here and when I get ticked off that's how my first post is as well. The difference between the men and the boys is the men calm down and make their points rationally- you were the first to do that and I followed your example. Kudos. Now I must go off to rent porn and slasher flicks for my 7 yr old nephew...
Actually, I would defend "The Batman"... by Prof. Pop-Cult	Jul 26th, 2008 03:53:35 AM
It introduced three things that were pretty cool: 1) A teen-age Batgirl. 2) A teen-age Poison Ivy. And 3) establishing that the Cobblepots (The Penguin's family surname) had a long-time rivalry with the Waynes. Also, I think the show's take on Clayface (or the Clayfaces) was pretty good. In fact, I really think that the Bat-Nolan films should adapt elements of the three things I cited above, because they would most fit in that series' realistic take on the Bat mythos.
The trailer is hugely retro by MrJJonz	Jul 26th, 2008 07:43:29 AM
Both the look and the music. Wonder what the show will be like?
Hello by Orcus	Oct 30th, 2008 10:48:55 AM
Anyone there?

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