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can't wait
by deanbarry
Jul 24th, 2008
02:07:49 AM
i got me a whole heap of jj love to spread on the world. just saw the xfiles movie today too. pretty cool!
I liked the leaked pilot
by xsi kal
Jul 24th, 2008
02:12:06 AM
...any idea what the differences between the two versions are?
Acknowledging its roots is a start...X-files
by Shub-Wankalot
Jul 24th, 2008
02:16:30 AM
Whether or not this show has the chutzpah to woo the next generation is the big question. X-files and shows resembling this brand may have run out of steam with the old crowd, but the attention span of the new crowd may require more than what this new incarnation promises.
Any changes from the internet version?
by V'Shael
Jul 24th, 2008
02:17:40 AM
Or is this the new and improved to-be-aired on the not-evil television version?
Ain't It OLD NEWS?
by darthuser
Jul 24th, 2008
02:20:11 AM
AICN becomes the last site to review a pilot the rest of the Internet saw two months ago
AICN already reviewed this
by mcgowanleg
Jul 24th, 2008
02:22:53 AM
Darthuser AICN had their first FRINGE review up a long time ago
Reality based up to the tank
by elab49
Jul 24th, 2008
02:37:45 AM
Then it all becomes more than a little absurd. The 'arc' and the 'conspiracy' are shoehorned in in a remarkably clumsy fashion that simply ruins the whole premise being built up. Which is a pity - because up until that bit it really wasn't that bad.
The pilot was crap!
by photoboy
Jul 24th, 2008
03:19:05 AM
Dull, plodding, boring, inexplicable character decisions, etc. The first 5 minutes on the plane are OK, the rest is rubbish. Abrams is way overrated these days, and Orci/Kurtzman are just talentless hacks.
I am entirely against illegal leaking of TV shows
by ReZourceman
Jul 24th, 2008
03:27:37 AM
And I entirely didnt download Fringe last month. And I entirely didnt enjoy the fuck out of it. And I entirely wont be illegally downloading it when it eventually airs.
Kurtzman and Orci suck harder then a Dyson Vac
by Xiphos_2
Jul 24th, 2008
03:28:03 AM
It will entertaining when Orci shows up later to defend his "work". Which is shit by the way.
The leaked pilot was a bit meh
by SUPERJIM
Jul 24th, 2008
04:07:38 AM
I watched from start to finish but was a little bored by it and had no interest in the characters they were trying to make us worry about. It all seemed a little forced. Lets hope it picks up, more decent sci-fi is what TV needs in my opinion.
"Doomwatch" did it first.
by Sans Souci
Jul 24th, 2008
06:06:59 AM
A crack team of investigators running around solving science crimes and strange abberations of the natural order? Yep, the Brits already did it back in the 1970s. ;-)

Geek snarkery aside...

Anyone expecting the lighting of the "Lost" pilot to strike twice will be sorely disappointed. With that said, the show starts off in decent manner. Excellent special effects and editing. The use of "title cards" is unique. The sense of dread and drear is in full effect.

But the writing and acting...

Blair Brown captures your attention more in her two brief scenes than the rest of the cast do in the entire episode. That's not so good an omen. Jackson could become insufferably muggy for the camera if they don't nail down what his character angle is supposed to be. Con man? Discounted genius? Maybe even wolf in the fold? Noble could just rehash Mental Denethor too easily if the scripts don't pull his character in the right direction. And Cute Blonde FBI Chick has about the same impact as Jaime Somers 2.0 did in last year's forgettable "Bionic Woman" series, which is not a good thing for your obstensible lead.

Again, the special effects are top notch, but forget about the plane sequence, which I admit is pretty overwhelming. Just wait till you see what happens in Blair Brown's first appearence. Oompah!

One final quibble...the ending could've been much cooler if it hadn't been alluded to earlier in an unrelated conversation. At the very least it would've been more mysterious and spooky. But one casual reference just robs the end of its potential impact.

Right now for me "Fringe" is somewhere between "Heroes" and "Alias." There's groundwork for a rich mythos with plenty to discover, but things could quickly go off the rails if no firm direction is charted. Hopefully Abrams is as hands-on as he's claiming to be. This could be a thrilling ride or a middling "The X-Files" rehash. Further eps will have to be seen to make the call.

So was this different from the leaked one?
by Desmondo
Jul 24th, 2008
06:11:48 AM
Had I seen that, I probably would have said that Pacey's character was pretty annoying. And probably would have found the pseudo-fringe-science far more jarring than most of the stuff on Lost. But obviously I haven't.
The premise is based on The Corporation?
by HoboCode
Jul 24th, 2008
08:54:10 AM
I'm on board. Fucking great documentary.
The pilot was great
by aversiontherapy2
Jul 24th, 2008
10:47:24 AM
Hope they don't mess with it.
What's the recipe for that homemade LSD, Capone?
by Squashua
Jul 24th, 2008
11:53:59 AM
Inquiring minds...
So its "Strange World"
by Raymar
Jul 24th, 2008
12:29:06 PM
and probably axed just as quickly...
Liked the pilot but....
by 7Cal
Jul 24th, 2008
01:57:32 PM
Felt the first third, or maybe half, was much stronger than the rest. It seemed to get a little too 'kooky' for me, and maybe this vibe I picked up was the same one when Capone referenced them having to tone down the wacky-professor character.

Also some of the logic leaps from dealing with the airplane-virus, to having to get some guy who's been locked up for 20 years in a nuthouse to solve everything, seemed to be stretching thin for me. That's not to say it can't work, but maybe a quick few more exposition scenes showing how they go from A to B would help.

Blair Brown
by skimn
Jul 24th, 2008
02:04:51 PM
Have had a crush on her since Altered States and that Molly Dodd series that shortly ran on NBC.
One big problem I had with the pilot...
by Executor
Jul 24th, 2008
02:26:49 PM
Crazy doc has been locked up for 20 years, but his lab at Harvard is unused, untouched, and full of his old equipment. Seriously? In 20 years no one at Harvard thought of getting some use out of that lab????
Does anyone at AICN.
by cookylamoo
Jul 24th, 2008
04:54:20 PM
Ever have a non-sexual reaction to seeing a movie?
Seen one J.J.A. show, seen them all...
by TheBLIGHT
Jul 24th, 2008
06:27:09 PM
Alias, Lost and now Fringe... creepy (and old) powerful/brilliant men, weird science, many innocent lost lives - with clinical/experimental violence, double agents, grey/blah lighting, female leads (sorta man-ish ~ hello Sydney and Kate) with high foreheads, and plodding attempts at opening our eyes to the 'real' world. Got tired of it on Alias season 4 on, try something new J.J...
Sure, sure, TheBLIGHT...all JJs shows are the same...
by Executor
Jul 24th, 2008
06:52:29 PM
...with all the creepy old men, weird science, double agents and experimental violence in What About Brian?, Felicity, and Six Degrees.

And what do you expect from sci-fi action shows? Of course they're going to have science and violence and brilliant scientists. Else they wouldn't be a sci-fi action show! Ugh, moron.

Ya know, maybe I'm wrong...
by Kid Z
Jul 25th, 2008
08:16:15 AM
... but from the sound of the premise, it seems like it's a rip-off of Global Frequency instead of X-Files. Warren Ellis... call your attorney!
This review by Capone
by Outrider304
Jul 25th, 2008
01:10:36 PM
I'm a little dissapointed in this review, and the overall state of reviews that I have been seeing here lately on AICN. I first read this piece earlier in the week and was a bit amped by Capone's excitement for it, but then as the week continued on and more articles came out about the viewing of this at comic con, other reviewers were making mention that the crowd wasn't bowled over. Now, certainly Capone didn't lie in his review, and his opinion is certainly his own, but he really pumps this thing, and makes no mention of the fact that the rest of crowd was sort of "meh" to it. I'm all for the personal opinion, but I think you do the readers a great disservice by not mentioning the tepid reaction of the rest of the audience. That's the magic of writing a review about something that you get to see with a larger group - you have the opportunity to write your own reaction, plus comment on everyone elses. The movie reviewers do that a lot when they see a movie that they like which everyone else in the theater liked as well, or a movie they hated that everyone else in the theater hated too. But for movies where they liked it and the rest of the crowd didn't, there is always a strange absence of crowd reaction there...Harry's done this a number of times, and now I see Capone doing it with this show. We TV and moviephiles come to this site in a lot of cases to help us decide what to watch, and if you don't include as much information as possible, then the site is no longer doing it's job. Which begs the question, is the site now catering to preferred individuals in the industry? Is this review an example of AICN bias toward Abrams?
Do not replace noble
by gotilk
Jul 25th, 2008
01:50:39 PM
Do not tone him down. He DOES have the best lines. "Let's make some LSD" Whole thing was brilliant! Love the titles, too.
M-O-O-N, that spells Executor...
by TheBLIGHT
Jul 25th, 2008
10:00:06 PM
Indeed, my first post after having read Harry's site from it's first weeks online back in the day, and still enjoying it today... and I have a young'un calling me a moron, right off... Well I am tickled and bemused. As a class act, all I can say Executor is, thank you. M-O-O-N, that spells fare thee well. Also, Tom Cullen, you rock it classic S-K style.
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