Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news.

Capone Interviews Ozymandias! Matthew Goode Talks BRIDESHEAD REVISTED and WATCHMEN!

First by DrafthouseSF	Jul 21st, 2008 12:35:38 PM
First?
Slow news day by Hawaiian Organ Donor	Jul 21st, 2008 12:35:46 PM
We need something to keep me awake.
third by pendergast	Jul 21st, 2008 12:40:59 PM

Wow... by Phimseto	Jul 21st, 2008 12:49:00 PM
The guy handles himself pretty well. I'm still iffy on how he'll do with Ozymandias but the man seems like he'd be a great part of any production.
Great interview. by Nordling	Jul 21st, 2008 12:50:03 PM
He certainly likes his f-bombs and c-bombs, doesn't he? But seriously, good work, Capone.
I want to have Matthew Goode's babies by Queen Liffey	Jul 21st, 2008 12:53:14 PM
Seriously, the man is talented (best part of Match Point, brilliant in The Lookout, made Imagine Me and You tolerable), smoking hot and, above all, not an idiot. I've read a few interviews with him and he always comes off as witty, intelligent, funny and genuine. Yeah, I want him.
Capone interviews Peter from HEROES by Squashua	Jul 21st, 2008 12:55:57 PM
Dude looks just like him.
He looks a bit slight to play Ozy... by Vic Twenty	Jul 21st, 2008 12:56:55 PM
Where was Brad Pitt when we needed him? Still, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. The trailer looked great. Most of the people at the Dark Knight IMAX screening I went to had no idea what it was supposed to be.
HE LOOKS NOTHING LIKE HIM! by Lashlarue	Jul 21st, 2008 12:58:39 PM
But, that major gripe aside, I really hope he pulls it off. Don't disappoint me Zack!
So will he get a story credit? by Mostholy	Jul 21st, 2008 01:19:33 PM
Honestly, I hope all that backstory he's created doesn't make it to the screen. Apparently, Snyder's already having trouble whittling down the film to the studio suits' liking. No need to keep Goode's extraneous additions.
is this not a huge spoiler? by bobbo32	Jul 21st, 2008 01:19:45 PM
um, Capone, do you realize that calling Ozymondias "one of those classic comic book villains," is kind of a massive spoiler? not everyone who reads this interview has read the graphic novel, so do you not think you should keep the FUCKING ENDING OF THE BOOK out of your questions??
Did anyone else just skip the Brideshead talk? by DeCypher44	Jul 21st, 2008 01:20:00 PM
I saw the trailer for that movie in front of TDK. That was a really strange placement. I have no desire to see it and even less desire to read an interview about it. But that's just me.
Good actor, but I still think he's too young for Ozymandias by Freakemovie	Jul 21st, 2008 01:23:06 PM
Then again, while I thoroughly enjoyed reading Watchmen, I don't exactly consider it "the best popular fiction ever created" (as Damon Lindelof says on the back of my edition) anyway. Considering all that's set up, the climax doesn't add up to as much as it should. Who knows until March, though -- maybe by then we'll all be screaming about how awesome a guy Goode is.
Plant by frongbak	Jul 21st, 2008 01:24:05 PM
No but seriously take an actor's word seriously. Even Tobey Maguire was "excited" by Spider-man 3
Bobbo32 by bobbo32	Jul 21st, 2008 01:27:59 PM
ok fair enough, but hypothetically, if I had not read the graphic novel, and had the ending of both that and the film spoiled for me in this interview, I would be pretty pissed. that being said: YYYYYEEEEAAAAAGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH! !!!! thats my body snatchers noise.
drturing by Shigeru	Jul 21st, 2008 01:32:13 PM
If a Watchmen movie should only be made with Moore's blessing then a Watchmen movie would never be made, because Moore fucking hates movies, and the very idea of adapting his work into film disgusts him.
Moore also hates by Shigeru	Jul 21st, 2008 01:34:14 PM
run-on sentences
I want in on Butt-Numb-A-Thon... by scrivener	Jul 21st, 2008 01:37:40 PM
If there's even the tiniest CHANCE of Watchmen being there, I will fly out from California invited or not. You can let me in, or I can break in. You're choice. ;) P.S. I'm as serious as the disappearing pencil trick.
So, nobody is trying to keep secret who the villian is? by Wonderboys	Jul 21st, 2008 01:40:31 PM
Everybody is spoiling who the bad guy in Watchmen is... sure, I read it 20 years ago and I dont mind, but there's a lot of people that may want to go to the cinema and be actually surprised.
Quality of Watchmen by frongbak	Jul 21st, 2008 01:45:34 PM
Moore strikes me as a full-on sociopath, probably a mix of Rorschach, Veidt, and the tortured sailor from the inset comic. Neither his opinion or Matt Goode's take on Veidt's Arayan heritage makes me any less ethusiastic about this fil. I am there opening weekend, psyched.
Wonderboys by andtheflesh	Jul 21st, 2008 01:48:05 PM
Hopefully, the ending gets spoiled for everyone by the time the movie is released. That way I can be there opening day in a nice quiet theater, devoid of douchebag frat boys yelling out, "Damn yo! Didja just see THAT!!" I'm wishing that the movie fucking tanks. Just give me that 3 hour arthouse pic Snyder mentioned, toss in a little animated Black Freighter, and let the studio weep. I mean, afterall, it's not like we should care if this does well at the box office. We won't be getting a sequel and thank christ for that.
Alan Moore & Salinger by andtheflesh	Jul 21st, 2008 01:51:10 PM
I love both of these guys work but have a hard time liking either of them outside of it. Salinger, especially. That fucker just needs to die already so all the shit he's been writing for the past 20 years get a posthumous publication.
Bad_Wolf by EddieBlake	Jul 21st, 2008 01:56:40 PM
So I'm second to Rorschach, huh? figures. I'll have to get some rubber bullets and come visit your Dr. Who loving ass :)
Drturing... by Kid Z	Jul 21st, 2008 01:59:02 PM
...yeah but the studio probably forced this idiotic subplot, "He's the bad guy... gotta make the asses in the seats know he's EEEE-VILLLL!" Typical, one-dimensional, Hollywood coke-think... but what can ya do, right?
Who cares about Alan Moore as a person? by palimpsest	Jul 21st, 2008 02:02:11 PM
It's all about the work, baby. Brett Ratner's supposed to be a fun guy, but he makes meh movies. Moore's a functioning lunatic in real life, but that's not our concern - the pages he produces, however, is.
*GIVE THIS A SPOILER TAG* by Mullah Omar	Jul 21st, 2008 02:04:27 PM
Come on Capone, not everybody has read WATCHMEN yet, not even all the geeks that hang around here.
There is a statute of limitations on by comedian_x	Jul 21st, 2008 02:13:26 PM
ruining endings. Fact is, the book is 20 years old and everyone should have read it by now.
Snyder is seriously troubled if he thinks this is arthouse by BurgerKing	Jul 21st, 2008 02:17:20 PM
"I'm making a 3 hour art house film". Ohhhh ok Zack, sure you are. Sureeeee
Moore also hates by BurgerKing	Jul 21st, 2008 02:22:23 PM
shaving
Moore is deliberately eccentric by DennisMM	Jul 21st, 2008 02:23:35 PM
He admits that when he said, on his 40th birthday, that he would become a sorcerer, he was having a bit of fun. He decided, though, that it was an idea worth exploring. before he turned 40 he wasn't considered a lunatic, just a very wary individual whose appearance happened to be somewhat threatening.
Spoilers ... by DennisMM	Jul 21st, 2008 02:25:07 PM
as much as I dislike having Veidt's arc spoiled, I would be even more upset if Rorschach's arc is spoiled. Even Moore has said he was surprised when he realized who Rorschach was. Don't let the public be spoiled on this!
300 retarded.... by dr sauch	Jul 21st, 2008 02:40:18 PM
Yes. Yes it was. It's not a genius piece of eye-opening philosophy. It's a kick-ass movie with a lot of yelling. It's like going to the gym on speed. I think thats all anyone wanted to take away from it. I don't know why people hate it so much. It was visually arresting and fun.
This all hinges on the script by dr sauch	Jul 21st, 2008 02:46:33 PM
If Snyder is just a hired gun to make Moore's story come to life, then this can't fail. The story is there, I mean the fucking comic book is practically a script.
ALAN MOORE by johnnyrandom	Jul 21st, 2008 02:51:10 PM
Need evidence that the man's a loon? One look at his pic on the back of your copy of Watchmen should tell you all you need to know. Fucker howls at the moon, and no mistake.
Veidt with a GERMAN ACCENT by KurtLockwood	Jul 21st, 2008 02:56:17 PM

con'td by KurtLockwood	Jul 21st, 2008 02:58:34 PM
First apparently they've fucked with the (spoiler) Alien Squid ending and now VEIDT (this actor is too small and young to play Veidt btw) with a fucking GERMAN ACCENT? This paints unnecessary Aryan/Nazi overtones to VEIDT which were NOT part of WATCHMEN. Great, VEIDT has been turned into the fucking RED SKULL. Fuck you, ZACK.
Bubastis in Goood, Nazi accent Baaaddd by DannyOcean01	Jul 21st, 2008 03:13:36 PM
Oh well. And not like the comments about the ending means the squid is out.
Ozymandias is a Nazi? by fiester	Jul 21st, 2008 03:16:44 PM
Whaaaaaaa?
jesus fucking christ by ianrewel	Jul 21st, 2008 03:24:14 PM
put a fucking spoiler tag on the title. I`ve read it a bunch of times, but still to all those uninitiated you just fucked up the ending for them
Fancy Pants Recorder by misterk360	Jul 21st, 2008 03:25:51 PM
Jesus, the whole trailer has nothing but CGI in it--Most of it very crappy. Also, Mathew Goode looks like a Gay Porn star.
Back To Reality by itstherudy	Jul 21st, 2008 03:31:03 PM
I'm happy to see passionate film makers just trying to concentrate on more props, actual sets, and real actors than blowing up the screen with non-stop, mind numbing CGI. I too hate CGI.
American good, German Bad by ianrewel	Jul 21st, 2008 03:31:42 PM
As much as I`m trying to keep an open mind about it, the character of Ozymandias is giving me some doubts. This whole German thing seems really contrived and black and white. Could be interesting but I usually prefer it when the villain doesn`t get a huge back story. That`S why I loved The Joker in TDK, there were only some hints about why he`S mad, and that's what ruined the book Hannibal for me; the explaining. I know in the comic book Adrian has a back story but none of this German BS; I guess I'm just complaining for the sake of complaining, I'll stop now and hope for the best
Goode is a good actor but I think... by Redfive!	Jul 21st, 2008 03:45:21 PM
Hes still wrong for Ozymandias.Plus a german Nazi backstory..fuck that.The suit alone make it cringe worthy more or less a nazi backstory..100% WRONG.
capone is one lucky bastard 'cause i read the graphic novel last by ev1ldead	Jul 21st, 2008 03:49:50 PM
otherwise i would be on a plane this minute. On my mission to kill him for this huge motherfucker of a spoiler!
Don't worry by ranma627	Jul 21st, 2008 03:50:43 PM
Don't worry about the fucking back-story. Try reading the whole interview before you jump to conclusions people. It's just something does for himself as an actor and it has nothing to do with the actual film we will see. I totally think Snyder gets the Watchmen and to say he's not capable of adapting this project is baseless. The two films he has made didn't call for anything more than what he gave. 300 was great besides the part where it was pretentious. Spartans weren't people who changed the world. Dawn was a decent remake, too. The loser in the end won't be the fans but Warner Bros. I see no way this film will be a success at the box office but I don't give a shit. I'm a fan of the novel and the film was made for us not for the masses. Unfortunately for Warner Bros., they're going to learn this lesson the hard way but fans get a 3 hour epic and once you add the Black freighter animated film, it's easily a four hour epic when all is said and done. Not only that but we get a hour long Under the Hood documentary, as well. We're in for one hell of a treat. I believe Snyder will have to cut many things that were in the novel but I'm sure he won't add unnecessary shit and I'm positive the ending will be intact.
Capone by ranma627	Jul 21st, 2008 03:53:37 PM
Trying using spoiler warnings, you idiot. But still if you didn't read the novel you have no reason to watch this film. It's not for you.
Veidt always had german descent by Wonderboys	Jul 21st, 2008 03:57:58 PM
It can be seen in Moore's description of the character in the annotations of the Absolute edition, so nothing new here. Stop embarrasing yourselves by demonstrating your thin knowledge of Watchmen and, at the same time, trying to appear like die-hard fans.
Bubastis ! by G100	Jul 21st, 2008 04:10:40 PM
Hooray.
He kicked ass in The Lookout by PumpyMcAss	Jul 21st, 2008 04:12:06 PM
Easily one of my favorite villains in recent years. Too bad he's in Brideshead. Who goes to those suckfests? Seriously? And there's already a miniseries about that is apparently word for word the book. Merchant Ivory style bullshit. The dryest of the dry. I'm tired of those movies clogging up the Landmark Theatres screens.
Moore is an Anarchist. by Lashlarue	Jul 21st, 2008 04:12:37 PM
Wonder what he thinks of The Joker in TDK?
I hear the script ends with... by Jackson Healy	Jul 21st, 2008 04:20:13 PM
...the Bear Jew beating Veidt to death with his baseball bat.
He took the role.... by kungfuhustler84	Jul 21st, 2008 04:26:06 PM
without even having read the graphic novel? What the fuck?!!
Creating backstories by kungfuhustler84	Jul 21st, 2008 04:35:59 PM
may work for some roels, but in watchmen it just seems so frivolous. He gave up the money because he wanted to prove he could make it on his own. Not because he's German or some bull shit. You jackass.
This is the one bit of Watchmen casting I worry about by Steve Rogers	Jul 21st, 2008 04:36:04 PM
This skinny dude with the obvious dye job doesn't really say 'Ozymandias' to me.
Hey Brunomac by kungfuhustler84	Jul 21st, 2008 04:39:07 PM
how did you get the trailer on your ipod? They don't have it available at the itunes store, but I have been dying to have it on my computer to watch whenever I want.
oh and I meant *roles by kungfuhustler84	Jul 21st, 2008 04:39:55 PM
why is it so hard for them to put an edit button on here? Then again, how hard should it be for me to type a fucking sentence without typos? Oh well.
Capone - How come you didn't pimp your filmspotting appearence? by Quin the Eskimo	Jul 21st, 2008 04:53:30 PM
It was a good suprise, but I need to know these things. Lauren Bacall, really?
It's on itunes by ranma627	Jul 21st, 2008 04:53:50 PM
Go to the itunes store. Click on movies then scroll down and click on theatrical trailers and then click on the watchmen poster and htey have all versions. One for your ipod, small, med large, and even th eones in hd. only the ipod one can be imported to your ipod obviously.
Yeah I love filmspoting too by ranma627	Jul 21st, 2008 04:54:44 PM
Glad to hear you on it, Capone.
Keep trying by ranma627	Jul 21st, 2008 04:59:18 PM
I keep trying to get people to watch these funny videos. Please watch and be sure to at least leave a rating. I'd love some honest comments. http://www.youtube.com/user/ra nma627
thanks ranma and Bruno by kungfuhustler84	Jul 21st, 2008 05:03:13 PM
so why the hell didn't it pop up when I typed "watchmen trailer" in the search box? hmmm
I'll be your pimp by Quin the Eskimo	Jul 21st, 2008 05:24:53 PM
http://www.filmspotting.net/
Lot of people saying a lot of things about Alan Moore on here by ian216a	Jul 21st, 2008 06:19:15 PM
All I'll say about him is that I was working the bar in the back room of one of his regular haunts a few years ago on a New Year's Eve and he pretty much bought me a drink everytime he got a round in. So he's a fucking hero as far as I'm concerned. Night got messy though, but I'll always remember the band seeing in midnight with a 20 minutes funk jam while Lynsey Spense (A king of Northampton) screamed "AULD LANGS SYNE MOTHERFUCKERS" repeatedly into a microphone. Good Times - Good Times.
Potty Mouth... by TheGhostWhoLurks	Jul 21st, 2008 06:35:53 PM
I'll bet HE'S the guy who killed The Comedian! >:O
I hate Brad Pitt but... by P2Rock	Jul 21st, 2008 07:14:20 PM
He may have been perfect for this role.... except that he's too well known. i dunno. the dude is a bit skinny and young. remeber veidt had retired by the time the events in the comic unfold so he's mid to late 30's at least
Moore worships a snake, so fucking what? by ianrewel	Jul 21st, 2008 07:26:03 PM
A huge part of the population worships a zombie, a voyeuristic puppeteer and a fucking white dove; bottom line Alan Moore is a true talent and should not be judged by his beliefs but regarded for his talent
Alan Moore was/is a genius by Rupee88	Jul 21st, 2008 10:24:08 PM
Who cares about his beliefs...that is like saying Einstein liked cartoons or Shakespeare's favorite color was blue or Socrates fucked little boys...WGAS...they are geniuses who contributed greatly to our world and culture and civilizations. To be as brilliant as Alan Moore, you have to be a little crazy, if not a lot. And for those who love Watchmen, read Miracleman/Marvelman or Promethea or even Supreme...all great stuff.
Nice little interview by Aeghast	Jul 21st, 2008 10:49:56 PM
Nice read, too. Thanks
Please God by Mockingbuddha	Jul 21st, 2008 11:04:33 PM
Giant Cunting Fuck Shake on a Stick Squid! Blah Blah blah, important themes, blah most celebrated, blah I want to be true to the spirit of the... blah blah blah... earlier drafts had Manhattan changing the past and... blah blah fucking BLAH!!! Nothing but the giant squid will awaken the fucking 12 year old that was joyfully reading above his level with Watchmen behind his parents back, confused but enthralled into nightmare by the pirates, confused and aroused by Dreiberg's failed attempt at sex with Juspeckzyx, blown the fuck away by Rorschach and Ozmandias. And Holy Shit! The Comedian killing the mother of his unborn child! But the how many times can I say it, "GIANT FUCKING SQUID!!!!!" or you have no ball Zack Snyder!!! Also anyone who hasn't read Watchmen by now and is "Waiting for the movie" you have my undying pity and scorn bitches.
Sorry by Mockingbuddha	Jul 21st, 2008 11:05:58 PM
For grammar errors, not opinions, I drink beer tonite.
Well, I just read the Alex Tse script by Tarantinoholic	Jul 21st, 2008 11:34:51 PM
...and the ending is, indeed changed. And definitely for the worse. SPOILERS In the end of the script, instead of unleashing the GIANT FUCKING SQUID(!) on Manhattan, Veidt instead impersonates Dr. Manhattan and huge blue stormclouds appear above eight cities across the earth. From the storm clouds comes Manhattan's voice saying he went to Mars because he was sick of the fighting and war and that he's going to destroy these eight cities or whatever as a 'warning'. Anyway, he does and everyone makes up. Then, Dan actually watches Manhattan kill Rorschach and since he's not around any more to get revenge on Veidt, Dan does instead, fighting him and eventually killing him by having the Owl Ship burst through the roof of Ozy's place and crush him. I'm not feeling so confident about this thing anymore.
Also.. by Tarantinoholic	Jul 21st, 2008 11:37:38 PM
Tom Cruise shoulda played Ozymandias. Reading the graphic novel again and the excerpt from the booklet for "The Veidt Method," all I could think about was Tom Cruise in "Magnolia" mode doing the perfect Veidt. I'm sure Goode will do a fine job, but they really shoulda gotten someone older. Also, Tom Cruise would fit with the whole eccentric superstar thing.
Wonderboys is a f'n tool! Veidt German cont'd by KurtLockwood	Jul 21st, 2008 11:39:36 PM
Dude, shut the fuck up. Trying to be all "I'm a bigger WATCHMEN fan than you, nyah nyah nyah." Just because Moore said in Ultimate that Veidt had German descent doesn't mean he speaks with a fucking accent you twit. If Moore had wanted Veidt to have an accent he would've given him one. There is a Scottish character in V for Vendetta, MacReady, and Moore makes it almost a cryptic puzzle to figure out the Scottish brogue phoenetically spelled out. So Moore obviously has not qualms about accents. I've said it a million times I'll say it again, what the fuck makes Snyder (who changes one of the greatest Deus Ex Machina endings of all time) and now this Boy-band reject Ozymandias think that they are better writers than the great, great ALAN MOORE. These are works that have become very popular and have stood the test of time. Hey, Zack, OzyBOYdias, go eat a bag of dicks.
Mwhahaha-Perfect Ozmindais (spoilers) by Mr.LordBronco	Jul 22nd, 2008 12:48:44 AM
OMFG- That was the utterly perfect talkback from a British Ponce. Which sums up the Watchmen villian in a nutshell! I splooged not a little amount seeing the trailer before TDK. The utter aloof disdain for as evidenced by the hired actor sums up exactly why the villian is so evil. However, he needs to pack on some pounds and work out a little bit to realize the original vision. Yes, He does look like a fruit loop in body armor, but I'm nitpicking. I think maybe that's the genius of the casting. I must retire--said too much, Mr.LB
OMG! He was in Woody Allen's_______ by thebearovingian	Jul 22nd, 2008 12:55:06 AM
Woody Allen's_________is a great movie! Woody Allen's___________ is his best work since Woody Allen's_________.
Tarantinoholic by flickchick85	Jul 22nd, 2008 01:02:16 AM
If that's true, then yeah, it just reawakened all my concerns about this movie. I still think it could be an interesting movie, but I REALLY don't like that ending. Don't suppose you'd be willing to share that script by any chance?
Also this whole Nazi pop psychology thing... by flickchick85	Jul 22nd, 2008 01:07:34 AM
is the PERFECT demonstration of Zach Snyder's idea of "depth" versus Alan Moore's, and the reason Snyder can't possibly do this novel justice (well part of the reason - the other being, he has to fit it into 3 hours or less). Sure, Moore's crazy, but he would never create such a trite backstory.
Flickchick, e-mail me at.. by Tarantinoholic	Jul 22nd, 2008 01:41:23 AM
Tarantinoholic@gmail.com and I'll send you a copy of the script. And drturing, Rorschach still gets his revenge, if you're referring to the newspaper guy and Rorschach's journal at the end.
To all of you complaining about the lack of a spoiler warning... by 3D-Man	Jul 22nd, 2008 02:13:35 AM
The title is contained in a RED BOX, with the word SPOILER running down the side!! What more do you want?? Sheesh!!!
If they fuck up the ending by ranma627	Jul 22nd, 2008 02:47:11 AM
I will walk right out of the fucking theatre, as soon as Doc Manhattan starts talking form the clouds.
Spolier: one change you can see is when Nite Owl by Dogmatic	Jul 22nd, 2008 03:03:08 AM
is screaming NO! in the trailer. from the circular doorway he is standing in and the snow falling this is obviously his reaction to Rorschach getting vaporized by Dr. Manhattan. In the comic he was "doing it" with Silk Spectre when this happened so I dunno where it will go from there...Nite Owl actually tryin' to take the Doc on or just scolding him. Just noticed that is all...
KurtLockwood by Wonderboys	Jul 22nd, 2008 03:42:36 AM
I didnt say anything about the accent, its for me as absurd as for you, I was only talking about the people who complained about Veidt having a german backstory. For me Snyder isnt a good choice for this, either, I'd rather go with Greengrass or Nolan, someone with some dept on their own to add. Snyder has the same depth as a piss puddle.
I don't get it by ianrewel	Jul 22nd, 2008 03:55:47 AM
If the final solution is a fake Doctor Manhattan, then where the artists and scientists being abducted at all and taken to the island? if not then why the fuck is the comedian so fucked up? what is the final joke?
When I read a comic book actor interview by David Cloverfield	Jul 22nd, 2008 06:11:28 AM
I always remember the scene from Entourage where Vincent gives an interview to the Harry parody about Aquaman, and what a great fan he is. Yeah. Aquaman is important. When an actor praises Watchmen like this, I always feel uncomfortable. He couldn't care less me thinks. Also: that backstory thing won't be in the movie morons. He just made it up for himself.
"Bullocks?" BOLLOCKS! by raw_bean	Jul 22nd, 2008 06:37:47 AM
I can see how one not familiar with British slang might miss that one, but he will have said it was a load of bollOcks, a slang term for testicles and meaning a load of nonsense in that context. :D
This guy's an idiot by kiddae	Jul 22nd, 2008 08:58:52 AM
"I don't have a huge amount to compare it to, but the depth of the story, the way it's written, the peculiarities in the structure of it. It's the most thought-out, deeply intelligent of the lot of them." So, "I haven't read any other graphic novels, but this one is the best". You're a fucking idiot. And he's going to devolve into some cartoon Nazi characterization the more evil he gets? That's bowel-meltingly moronic. Oh god I was nearly excited about this movie for a second there.
Fake Manhattan? What now?! by kiddae	Jul 22nd, 2008 09:18:13 AM
Holy shit, someone spoil this new ending for me. What, Veidt incriminates Doc Manhattan and the world unites against HIM? That doesn't work for two reasons: a) You'd have to kill the real Manhattan, who can't die. Else he'd have to go along with it, which is completely cunting imbecilic because b) HE'S BEEN IN THE EMPLOY OF THE U.S. GOVERNMENT FOR YEARS. The whole point of faking the alien attack is that it's completely apolitical, whereas even if Manhattan was seen to turn on his "own", the rest of the world would just condemn America for their hubris. OH CHRIST SO DUMB
YOU NEARLY HAD ME, SNYDER! by kiddae	Jul 22nd, 2008 09:22:46 AM
I nearly fell for it you crafty son of a bitch!
SPOILER: Here's one bit of reassuring news... by Le Vicious Fishus	Jul 22nd, 2008 09:40:13 AM
From EW (see last sentence particularly): "Over many months, and many meetings, Snyder persuaded Warner Bros. to abandon the Greengrass/Hayter script and hew as faithfully as possible to the comic. The key battles: retaining the '80s milieu, keeping Richard Nixon (Moore did consider using an era-appropriate Ronald Reagan, but worried it would alienate American readers), AND PRESERVING THE VILLAIN-DOESN'T-PAY-FOR-HIS-CR IMES CLIMAX." One would think this last bit eliminates one concern (Nite Owl killing Veidt). Still: SAVE THE SQUID!
SPOILER: EVIDENCE THAT "THE SQUID IS IN" by Le Vicious Fishus	Jul 22nd, 2008 09:53:30 AM
From http://tinyurl.com/6ye3f3 ...in a November 2007 Starlog Magazine interview, Zack Snyder uttered the now infamous quote, “I’m absolutely keeping the graphic novel’s ending.” Squid’s in, right? How could Zack be any clearer? Hold on. Just a week later, on this site’s exclusive Zack Snyder fan Q&A, Snyder mentioned in one of his answers that in the film he would show that Dr. Manhattan was working on creating “world universal energy” technology. Something that was not in the original book, but in an early script draft where the squid was taken out and replaced with a completely different ending. So, squid’s out, right? Well, hold onto your smiley badges. We got another piece of news that seemed to confirm our tentacled friend made the cut in February of 2008 when it was reported that Neville Page, the lead creature designer for the film Cloverfield, was hired to work on the Watchmen film. That's what this guy does — design big scary monsters for movies, just like our squid pal! Why sign him up if the squid wasn’t in? I mean, it’s the only creature in Watchmen! Cross-eyed yet? No? Well, in the spring of 2008, two individuals who worked as extras on the film shared secondhand information, from individuals they said were reliable sources, that definitively confirmed to them that, “the squid is in.” Then, just the other day in another Matthew Goode interview, the actor stated, “fans of the story will be very pleased with this adaptation.” Whoa. A far cry from the October 2007 interview where he more or less said, as the ending stood then, fans would not be happy at all. So, you tell me? Will we see the ink-shooting leviathan on the big screen next March, or will we just get something close — like maybe an ill-tempered octopus? Who knows, maybe the ending will consist of Dr. Manhattan shooting blue sparks out of his ass while somewhere in Northampton a gray-bearded gentleman wearing too many rings exclaims, “what the fuck!” What do I think? Well, I think Patrick Wilson put it best when he said: "Ha! I have to say, if you know how much Zack believes in it, you wouldn’t believe he would go that far from the graphic novel. I don’t know how those rumors start, but that’d be a stretch!"
Squid better be in by kiddae	Jul 22nd, 2008 09:58:06 AM
I'm made as hell and ready to spit! Snort. Snarl.
"Mad", even. by kiddae	Jul 22nd, 2008 09:59:12 AM
It's affecting my typing.
Neville Page isn't THAT promising... by kiddae	Jul 22nd, 2008 10:04:40 AM
...given that he could've designed the now-confirmed Bubastis. (I'm pretty bored at work, I guess.)
The squid better be there... by Phimseto	Jul 22nd, 2008 10:45:34 AM
I get that Snyder is using Watchmen the film as a way to make commentary on superhero movies in the same way the miniseries commented on the comic culture, but...you can still do that without fundamentally altering major scenes. The final scene with Rorschach and the squid have been seared into my brain for twenty or so years. I want to see those things in glorious, hideous IMAX.
SAVE THE SQUID! by Le Vicious Fishus	Jul 22nd, 2008 11:33:08 AM
to the tune of John Denver's "Plant a Tree"... Save the Squid for the Watchmen Only Squid can clear the air Save the Squid, Squid for America Save the Squid, Snyder, for all the world to scare Your headache, it's Squid inside you Make a promise to the fans Save the Squid, now is the time to Recognize the Squid for all that it is worth Save the Squid for the Watchmen Only Squid can clear the air Save the Squid, Squid for America Save the Squid, Snyder, for all the world to scare Lovecraftian Squid will pop in NYC with psychic screams Plant a horror for the future For the death of millions will save everything Save the Squid for the Watchmen Only Squid can clear the air Save the Squid, Squid for America Save the Squid, Snyder, for all the world to scare
He was great in 'The Lookout' by CherryValance	Jul 22nd, 2008 02:02:00 PM
unrecognizable if you'd known him from 'Match Point'.
Seems like a nice enough fella... by BiggusDickus	Jul 22nd, 2008 02:18:16 PM
Totally fucking wrong for the part of Adrian Veidt, but a nice fella nonetheless...
Patrick Wilson Interview by Le Vicious Fishus	Jul 22nd, 2008 03:15:06 PM
Doesn't bug me so much. It's a stretch to claim that Wilson's words equal "the squid is out." At any rate, the vast majority of the evidence points to the squid being in... But just in case... SAVE THE SQUID!
THE WATCHMEN SQUID ONLINE NOW!!! (SPOILER) by KurtLockwood	Jul 22nd, 2008 03:42:48 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =7tbXhu09m5s Btw, Moore has admitted the WATCHMEN ending unintentionally rips off an old episode of "THE OUTER LIMITS."
"Seems like a nice enough fella..." by Aeghast	Jul 22nd, 2008 05:21:58 PM
And he curses a lot, which is always a good thing...............in an actor
Veidt WASN'T Doctor Strangelove JEEEEBUS!! by G100	Jul 22nd, 2008 09:06:22 PM
I've been resigned to a fair number of the rumoured changes so far but if a hokey German accent starts appearing towards the end of the film then Snyder needs a good slap. It COMPLETELY misses the entire point of Veidt and turns him into a pathetic Nazi bad guy charicature. Seriously get Matthew Goode back in the studio to redo the pick up dialogue and remove any traces of a preposterous German accent before it's too late. It's a bad idiotic idea on SO many levels. I mean we can just about get over the fact that Goode looks NOTHING like the Watchmen Ozy and has the wrong costume (Nite Owls still stuck to the spirit of the costume) but slapping a German accent on top of it makes Ozy a farcical cartoon bad guy. I hope squiddy is in but completely recasting and redefining the SPOILER architect of the entire plot is just stupidity. BTW Goode Ozy has backstory aplenty try using that instead of dreaming up irrelevant "challenges" for your acting.
G100 by Le Vicious Fishus	Jul 22nd, 2008 09:34:22 PM
You couldn't be more correct. I apparently repressed Goode's Veidt "backstory" and ludicrous Colonel Klink accent as soon as I read about it. I just... choose to disbelieve. That's fucked. The guy already looks to be the weak link in the cast, and if he actually tries (and is allowed to) pull off an ever growing German accent like some dime story vaudevillain, I will be PISSED. What an idiot. That stated: SAVE THE FUCKING SQUID! BLOOD AND SOULS FOR MY LORD SQUID!
Allergic to Squid? by The Reef	Jul 23rd, 2008 03:49:13 AM
If the squid ain't the ending then ZS should be eternally shunned by all comicbook creators (and everyone else for that matter) and sent to the place where all he can do is make low budget CGI Care Bear movies for saturday afternoon TV and STILL have a moronic exec take it from his sweaty hands and re-edit it to better accomodate adverts for Ex-Lax. This hell is waiting if there is no iconic ending to this extraordinary tale. Be warned.
AICN Request: Squid Talkback by Le Vicious Fishus	Jul 23rd, 2008 07:51:03 AM
OK, roving AICN reporters: how about a squid TB. There's a lot of evidence (see one of my posts above) that the Squid IS in, but there are a lot of rumors to the contrary. At any rate, we Squidders deserve a place to ourselves to rant, threaten and dream. Too bad no one at AICN will ever read this... SAVE THE SQUID!
Matthew Goode sounds like a fun guy... by THT3000	Jul 23rd, 2008 09:47:42 AM

More like a Fungi by Le Vicious Fishus	Jul 23rd, 2008 10:03:41 AM
Yuk Yuk Yuk...
SAVE THE SQUID by Le Vicious Fishus	Jul 23rd, 2008 03:34:59 PM
to the tune of John Denver's "Plant a Tree"... Save the Squid for the Watchmen Only Squid can clear the air Save the Squid, Squid for America Save the Squid, Snyder, for all the world to scare Your headache, it's Squid inside you Make a promise to the fans Save the Squid, now is the time to Recognize the Squid for all that it is worth Save the Squid for the Watchmen Only Squid can clear the air Save the Squid, Squid for America Save the Squid, Snyder, for all the world to scare Lovecraftian Squid will pop in NYC with psychic screams Plant a horror for the future For the death of millions will save everything Save the Squid for the Watchmen Only Squid can clear the air Save the Squid, Squid for America Save the Squid, Snyder, for all the world to scare
Watchmen vs. Bloody Roar? by kiddae	Jul 24th, 2008 03:36:41 AM
That kind of fighting game?

Talkbacks

Capone Interviews Ozymandias! Matthew Goode Talks BRIDESHEAD REVISTED and WATCHMEN!

User login

Quick Talkback

Talkbacks