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Would You Like Some Thulsa Doom While You're Waiting for Your Conan?

First by slowgraffiti	Jul 21st, 2008 04:25:01 AM
Wow, I am a loser now.
I want the new Conan to be Carrott Top. by Redfive!	Jul 21st, 2008 04:27:33 AM
That fool just needs a wig.
it's doomed by deanbarry	Jul 21st, 2008 04:30:44 AM
hmmm....should be an interesting take!
wow by cornponious	Jul 21st, 2008 04:35:45 AM
I thought you'd never get this uploaded to the site correctly. It kept appearing, disappearing, restricting me access to the story, etc. Now I've read it, and it seems kind of anti-climactic. Just give us a Conan flick with modern-day flabby Arnold.
jagga by deanbarry	Jul 21st, 2008 04:42:48 AM
moron
Jagga by JimBobCooter	Jul 21st, 2008 04:43:36 AM
Shut the fuck up.
and jagga has been removed from the post by deanbarry	Jul 21st, 2008 04:46:52 AM
Good! Racist fucknut!
Red Sonja? by SunTzu77	Jul 21st, 2008 04:58:30 AM
Rose McGowan as Red Sonja? This doesn't sound appealing to me.
Jagga... by deanbarry	Jul 21st, 2008 05:10:04 AM
On an anonymous forum like this, people can't tell when you are joking or not. Even if your statement is dripping in sarcasm and you aren't being serious, you can't tell from the written word. I disagree withyou by the way. Denzel Washington? Wesley Snipes, Sidney Poitier? They could open and carry films. Anyway, I hope this form doesn't become a topic on race, for god sake. Let's talk about a possible continuation of Conan. Bring it on I say :)
That scene of James Earl Jones turning into a giant snake. by The Guy Who Slept Through Everything.	Jul 21st, 2008 05:13:30 AM
man, that was so awful it's hilarious. If there's any movie that needs to be remade from the 80's it's MASTERS OF THE UNIVERSE. How's that coming along?
oh bitter heart by SOHOMEMADEITHURTS	Jul 21st, 2008 05:15:41 AM
do you think that rose in Red will still go ahead with McG and Rodrigiez being all broken up and shit? I wouldn't wanna be in my ex's movie, unless there was mucho $$$ involved, and she can't really ask for much.....
As long as he's not robbing DJ Squalls from the Kratos part in by SpencerTrilby	Jul 21st, 2008 05:21:11 AM
the God of War movie, I'm in.
might want to look at the left column by Quint	Jul 21st, 2008 05:32:31 AM
In an hour or two...
Anybody seen Richie? by Motoko Kusanagi	Jul 21st, 2008 05:34:14 AM
I keep coming back until someone REMEMBERS seeing Richie!
"Milius is the man for Conan" by kwisatzhaderach	Jul 21st, 2008 05:53:24 AM
Right on.
Conan Episode I by RaveX	Jul 21st, 2008 05:58:37 AM
The Thulsa Menace
It Takes A Really Great Storyteller... by TroutMaskReplicant	Jul 21st, 2008 05:59:29 AM
To make a film about a character becoming consumed by darkness and actually make it work. Francis Ford Coppala could do it at his peak (probably not now). I wonder if George Lucas at his peak could even have done it. He certainly couldn't do it when it counted. I suppose you could say that Nolan recently did it. But the point is Djimon Hounsou and his people have their work cut out for them. It's easier to tell the story of a character becoming a hero.
"might want to look at the left column In an hour or two... " by TroutMaskReplicant	Jul 21st, 2008 06:00:59 AM
Exciting news??? About Conan maybe?
MILUS by TiNSeLToWN TeRRoR	Jul 21st, 2008 06:23:05 AM
HELL YES
trout by Quint	Jul 21st, 2008 06:25:39 AM
Soon enough. Let's just say it's relating to this story
Um - by Samson_K	Jul 21st, 2008 06:28:22 AM
I hope that this doesn't go down the 'Scorpion King' route - a flawed hero destined to become evil etc etc but meanwhile here are some wacky escapades! I do wonder if the general public will give a flying fuck about this as Thulsa Doom is not a well known character outside of fans of REH's work and if it does well I hope we're not going to get a succesion of films about other supporting characters in the Conan universe!
Yag-kosha - by Samson_K	Jul 21st, 2008 06:31:06 AM
A REH version of the Elephant Man 'I am not an elephant! I am not an animal! I am an alien demi-god being!'
Quint by kwisatzhaderach	Jul 21st, 2008 06:33:38 AM
If Milius is making a new Conan my mind will implode. In a good way.
"flawed hero" who gradually turns nasty... by FlickaPoo	Jul 21st, 2008 06:36:30 AM
..."Conan. I AM your father....". "...Noooo!!, that's IMPOSSIBLE!!!...." etc...etc...etc...
Rose McGowan will NOT be Red Sonja by Lenny8	Jul 21st, 2008 06:39:07 AM
No way he will work with her now that they broke up. Rodriguez isn't the kind of guy who can work with angry exes.
Actually this sounds like fun. The more Robert... by FlickaPoo	Jul 21st, 2008 06:39:49 AM
...E. Howard the better. Although I was re-reading the original Conan stories recently and I was surprised that I liked the stories that were written or co-written by Carter and de Camp a lot better (than the Howard stories)...
kwisa by Quint	Jul 21st, 2008 06:40:42 AM
calm it down! The story's up... but it's just connected to THIS project... sheesh. I wouldn't be cruel enough to tease something as mind-blowingly awesome as Milius and Conan together again. I'd just drop it like an atom bomb...
Damn. Always read the talkback before attempting... by FlickaPoo	Jul 21st, 2008 06:48:50 AM
...a scrawny little Star Wars joke. Should have known half a dozen wankers would beat me to the punch...
Milius is indeed the man by Beowulf316	Jul 21st, 2008 06:58:19 AM
I've been waiting for a new Milius, Arnold, King Conan flick my whole life. I'm not so interested in a $100 million remake I want old Conan first!
Conan, king by his own hand...I've been waiting... by FlickaPoo	Jul 21st, 2008 07:02:17 AM
...for that flick since I was a teenager. Incidentally, I was "king by my own hand" quite often as a teenager myself. Not until I want blind though...just until I needed glasses....
Ah well...not back to Conan yet. by TroutMaskReplicant	Jul 21st, 2008 07:06:48 AM
I was just discussing John Milius with my brother in relation to his sense of manliness. I was never a big fan of the original Conan film (although it's got a really interesting tone, very European) but the world is a more amusing place with films like Conan in it.
Thulsa Doom was a movie only character, that had the name lifted by DeckardBladeRunner	Jul 21st, 2008 07:10:59 AM
Apparently there are no REH fans that work for AICN or posting on here. Thulsa Doom was a villain's name from the Kull the conquer series of less successful stories from Robert E.Howard. Thoth Amon was one of Conan's repeat enemies from stories such as "the god in the bowl", "hour of the dragon" and "phoenix on the sword. Anyway, to make a movie to flesh out this character makes no sense and would be of no interest to Conan fans who have become less accepting of what basically amounts to fan fiction that has the name "conan" slapped onto it.
Give this a read by DeckardBladeRunner	Jul 21st, 2008 07:12:22 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T hoth-Amon I forgot to add this to my prior comments as well as the fact that you could assume they (milius and co.) loosely based Movie Thulsa Doom on Thoth Amon, who was actually a conan character. This film has disaster written all over it.
Give this a read by DeckardBladeRunner	Jul 21st, 2008 07:12:22 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T hoth-Amon I forgot to add this to my prior comments as well as the fact that you could assume they (milius and co.) loosely based Movie Thulsa Doom on Thoth Amon, who was actually a conan character. This film has disaster written all over it.
Thulsa Doom by DeckardBladeRunner	Jul 21st, 2008 07:14:41 AM
On more thing- this is the history of the character "Thulsa Doom", as opposed to whatever nonsense of a movie this is supposed to be Thulsa Doom (Robert E. Howard) From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (Redirected from Thulsa Doom (character)) Jump to: navigation, search Thulsa Doom is a fictional character first appearing in the Kull short story Delcardes' Cat by Robert E. Howard. A powerful necromancer, Thulsa Doom is Kull's primary foe.(Marvel Universe) Monsters on the Prowl#16 (April, 1972).He was often a featured foe of the Marvel Kull comics ,in(Kull the Conqueror#3).Thulsa Doom returns in (Kull the Conqueror#7-By This Axe I Rule-based an original story by Robert E.Howard )Posing as the nobleman Ardyon,formms an alliance with four rebels within Valusia: the dwarfish Ducalon, the soldier Enaros, Baron Kanuub, and the minstrel Ridondo,who actually dethroned the hero ,and set him upon a quest to regain his lost kingdom,in the pages of his own comic,until it gets cancelled.Kull resumes his quest in the pages of Kull and the Barbarians-a large black and white Marvel magazine format ,like the The Savage Sword of Conan ,(Kull and the Barbarians#2)-Thulsa Doom sent members of the Black Legion to ambush Kull and Brule, though they won the fight. Thulsa observed the battle through a magic crystal. Kull and Brule's ship was later attacked by a sea serpent, with which Thulsa may or may not have had anything to do. Kull and the Barbarians last three issues until it was cancelled,and the return of Kull the Destroyer-(Kull the Destroyer#29(fb))-Thulsa Doom/Ardyon learned of the curse of Torranna (essentially, if a scarred man wore the crown and sat the throne, he'd be unable to ever leave the throne), which he determined to bestow upon Kull. To this end, he took on the aspect of the god of Torranna and advised its inhabitants how best to bring this about.(KtD#22-27-BTS)-Thulsa Doom manipulated Garn-Nak, Karr-Lo-Zann, and Norra of Torranna. They drew Kull into Torranna and had him undergo a series of trials to gain the crown of Torranna. Kull sought the crown because he believed he could use the army of Torranna to help him retake the crown of Valusia from Thulsa Doom. (KtD#28)-Kull successfully completed the last of the trials, but before he could don the crown, Norra warned him of the curse of Torranna. Thulsa Doom allowed Norra's age to catch up with her, turning her into a shriveled corpse, and then revealed himself to Kull, challenging him to one final battle. (KtD#29)-Thulsa Doom pulled Kull into a pocket dimension for their final battle. Kull managed to slash Thulsa Doom's face with his sword, but ultimately was overpowered by the necromancer. Thulsa Doom returned them both to Torranna, but Kull rallied long enough to push Thulsa Doom until the throne and place the crown on his head. His face scarred by Kull, Thulsa fulfilled the prophecy and fell victim to the curse himself. Thulsa's power drained by the curse, the city of Torranna collapsed, seemingly crushing him. Kull, of course, escaped, and then returned to Valusia to retake his own throne. Kull The Destroyer runs until it was cancelled again.Thulsa Doom returns as a Conan villain in the pages of his own comic and some issues of Conan black and white comic MAGAZINES. (Savage Sword of Conan#190-193) - Conan encountered Thulsa Doom. He later becomes an enemy of the Celtic hero Cormac mac Art, another Howard character further expanded by Andrew J. Offutt. He is apparently immortal and is visualized as a skull-headed sorcerer, or as an albino when taking on the illusory appearance of a living man. Base of Operations: currently unknown; (Pre-Cataclysmic era) Grondor; the Serpent Temple in the Forbidden Swamp, the City of Wonders (both within Valusia); Torranna (Hyborian era)-Arallu (The land of the evil dead). The similar concept of an evil, skull-headed sorcerer wearing a hood and operating in a serpent themed base was later used for He-Man's arch enemy Skeletor. [edit] Portrayal in Films James Earl Jones as Thulsa Doom in Conan the Barbarian.A character of the same name is the antagonist in the 1982 movie Conan the Barbarian. Played by James Earl Jones, the cinematic Thulsa Doom is considerably different from the literary one, who is described as having a skull-like face. This version of Thulsa Doom is essentially the classic "Conan" villain Thoth-Amon, servant of the serpent-god Set; as such, he appears to be an ordinary human in the film, and possesses the power to transform into an enormous snake. Though immortal (never aging throughout the course of the film), it is revealed in the film's climax that he is not invincible when Conan successfully beheads and kills him. This Thulsa Doom/Thoth-Amon hybrid appears to have been re-invisioned as a cult leader in the manner of the real life demagogues that had popped up in the decade previous to the film's release. In the movie he is shown to have an extraordinary command of his followers. For example, in one scene, after Thulsa Doom commands one of his female followers on a high ledge to come to him, she jumps off the ledge to her death. In this he resembled Hassan-i Sabbah, the Nizari leader, who according to Arab sources had one of his followers leap to his death to demonstrate his power to visiting dignitaries
And I Still Think The World Needs A New Schwarzenegger... by TroutMaskReplicant	Jul 21st, 2008 07:15:29 AM
All these up and coming action stars just never had that bizarre charisma Arnold had (and look where they are now). He couldn't act, he couldn't do accents, but he could eat up the screen and make millions. In fact is there anyone who could replace Bruce Willis or Sylvester Stallone?
The first movie was ok, for what it was. by jae683	Jul 21st, 2008 07:18:52 AM
But it didn't do justice to the Conan in Robert E. Howard's original stories.
R.E.H. fanatics by Beowulf316	Jul 21st, 2008 07:31:59 AM
I knew it wouldn’t take long for them to start showing up to shit all over this. If you like the books and comics better that fine, but Milius, and Arnold are who the movie going public think of when the names Conan and Thulsa Doom are mentioned. At least until the $100 million PG13 remake make Conan look like T3.
Beowulf, actually... by DeckardBladeRunner	Jul 21st, 2008 07:42:54 AM
This quote is what got me to posting. "Going by my not-very-extensive-reading of Robert E. Howard's pulp novels, Doom was always an evil motherfucker, so it'll be interesting to see how Hounsou and his as-yet-unnamed screenwriter(s) depict the character as a "flawed hero" who gradually turns nasty" This character is in NO conan stories, and the movie character is a hodge podge of several Conan villains. The movie character simply existed as an invention of the screen writers, which is fine, but dont play it up like it is exploring REH's world- it isnt. Thulsa Doom is from the Kull stories, and was a guy with a skull face, which Skeletor was probably mostly based on from the Mattel toy line. And frankly the movie going public will probably shit on this, James Earl Jones's movie character was a classic villain, and well done and stands up all these years later. As an REH fan, I like the JEJ Thulsa Doom character- AS A VILLAIN. Who wants to see "his fall from grace"? seriously? Will this sell tickets? And one more thing about REH fans, saying that this doesnt matter lifting character names and blurring them together with different stories and trying to say it's all the same would be like saying Darth Vader is the main Nemesis from Sherlock Holmes, but I havent keep up with Sir Arthur Conan Doyle.... Thulsa Doom Project= failure waiting to happen
Thulsa Doom appeared in the comics too though by Samson_K	Jul 21st, 2008 07:42:56 AM
I personally think think it's a shame that Arnold is the template for movie Conan because in my opinion apart from his build he was never right for the part. Conan was also a charismatic character and someone of a keen intelligence and due to Arnie's performance never came across as such.
Conan Star Wars Darth plot by EvilWizardGlick	Jul 21st, 2008 07:43:56 AM
Didn't see the Darth vader parallels coming.
Sounds Stupid by A-COD	Jul 21st, 2008 08:16:05 AM
Nobody cares about this character, seriously. Save your time and money.
The need for new action stars? by Knuckleface	Jul 21st, 2008 08:18:22 AM
Forget action stars, what we need are good -masculine- leads. I cannot believe Hollywood is trying to shove pip-squeak actors like Shia LaBeoaf down our throats as serious leading men.
Thulsa Doom was a Kull character by Conans Sword	Jul 21st, 2008 08:20:37 AM
if all this is leading up to a new conan film id prefer if they showed Thoth Amons origins like dark horse did with the book of thoth.
DeckardBladeRunner by Beowulf316	Jul 21st, 2008 08:29:34 AM
I apologize. You apparently have other reasons for disliking this idea. Writing 3 posts on how Milius stole Thulsa doom from different sources lead me to think that was your problem. If you have other reasons thats fine, But other have already posted anti Milius/Arnold stuff. In another Darth Vader reference, prequels about JEJ villains falling from grace have, historically, done very well.
The James Earl Jones baddass mutha? by Damien Chowder	Jul 21st, 2008 08:40:06 AM
What? And we are getting a "flawed hero"??!! Hero turns villain?!? NO!! He should be baddass from the beginning! No Hollywood reasoning shitey bollocks! Down with this sorta thing!
Chicks are the new action stars, men just wussies. by EvilWizardGlick	Jul 21st, 2008 09:22:59 AM
The demasculination of men has been happening for decades. Man it is al over tv. No family show has a strong competent male lead. The closest we see is Homer Simpson. Men are continually portrayed as less effective than their wives, as bumbling dolts. Personally I blame the Velvet Mafia.It only makes effeminate men more acceptable to the public.
Arnold to play an aged King Conan! by Sappers Forward	Jul 21st, 2008 09:32:09 AM
Arnold could easily pull off an aged King Conan. The last scene in Conan the Barbarian was of him sitting on his thrown obviously many years later. The perfect shot for the opening scene in the new movie...A movie about anything based on Conan the Barbarian without Conan just seems limp.
An idea for a great KING CONAN movie by ninpobugei	Jul 21st, 2008 10:19:33 AM
Tell the movie in flashback with the seriousness and tone of GLADIATOR. Use Arnold for the old version of himself looking back on his life and use the Austrian guy who did the biopic "See Arnold Run" (Roland Kickinger) as young Conan. Of course I would prefer to see Arnold get in shape and do the whole roll himself (a la Stallone doing Rocky and Rambo), but that's probably not realistic. I'd just like to see it taken seriously in the way that Batman has been taken seriously. There are strong themes there that could be displayed much as they did GLADIATOR...great story, great music, great movie overall. Imagine if the sword & sorcery genre could be revamped and modernized!
I wish John Wayne was alive to see this by necgray	Jul 21st, 2008 10:30:37 AM
And I wish Queer Eye would show up on his doorstep to metrosexual him up. Fuck John Wayne and fuck macho American ideals of masculinity. To quote from Big Lebowski: "What makes a man? Is it being prepared to do the right thing no matter the cost?" "Sure, that and a pair of testicles."
and if you want macho, poeticwarrior by necgray	Jul 21st, 2008 10:32:25 AM
I think you can't go too wrong with Djimon Honsou. Whether you like the idea of Thulsa Doom or not, you have to admit the guy's pretty f'n tough.
Feminization of America. by Damien Chowder	Jul 21st, 2008 10:38:09 AM
Don't forget here in the UK too. Exact situation. Men portrayed as bumbling fecking eejuts. Also sexist, useless, lazy and rapists. All the anti-child abuse adverts star men and have quotes that start like "charlies uncle..." or "did Heathers father.." Women are never portrayed as being assholes. I know statiscally they say it's more men than women but I ain't seen anything backing up this character assassination of men. Both are as bad or good as each other. DOWN WITH THIS SORT OF THING!
Men need to be men again! by ninpobugei	Jul 21st, 2008 10:46:12 AM
Men are portrayed as buffoons...all we do is play video games, watch sports, barely hold down a job, watch porn, ignore the kids, stuff our faces, and generally make stupid decisions that the all-knowing, all-powerful, all-good wife/girlfriend must solve. Even men's bodies are considered ugly...women can wear the tiniest bikini, but men are stuck wearing pants right out of the 1920's to go swimming in! WTF is up with all that?
Outside of the by grandadmiralsnackbar	Jul 21st, 2008 11:18:08 AM

Outside of the "Box" by grandadmiralsnackbar	Jul 21st, 2008 11:20:31 AM
My question, political reasons aside, is why is Milius box-office poison at this point? Yeah, NRA, yeah, overly Conservative, but look at the track record. DePalma gets chance after chance, and desevedly so. But Milius is cast into the dustbin of Hollywood because of...Red Dawn remake is going to make me throw up...
Milius' CONAN: Great film, terrible adaptation. by godoffireinhell	Jul 21st, 2008 11:23:12 AM
Goddamn I love Milus' CONAN but go ahead and read Howard's CONAN stories from the '30ies and you'll realize that it's a less than adequate adaptation.
Not to be confused with the great Oklahoma villain... by cookylamoo	Jul 21st, 2008 11:44:39 AM
Tulsa Doom.
where is my comment? by thebearovingian	Jul 21st, 2008 12:17:01 PM
have i been banned? SWEET!
aww shucks by thebearovingian	Jul 21st, 2008 12:18:36 PM
WTF, AICN?! How come so many comments are disappearing from or flat out not posting to the talkback? Get your house in order!
What a terrible idea. by DocPazuzu	Jul 21st, 2008 01:00:43 PM
I like Hounsou a lot. If they want to use him in a sword & sorcery epic, why not cast him as Imaro? The Imaro books are basically African Conan anyway, but with their very own style and flavor. If anyone here has read Imaro then I'm sure they'll agree that a big screen version would be bad-ass.
All I want to know is... by Deus X Meshuga	Jul 21st, 2008 01:02:54 PM
Will this have hot slave girls eating human hands out of a big soup pot?
relax-I have it on good authority that gerard butler by General Crom	Jul 21st, 2008 01:10:59 PM
will be playing conan in King Conan:Crown of Iron directed by milius.What caahn ya doo? Also butler will be playing Adam in masters of the universe.Peter Weller will be returning as robocop in aranofskis' sequel.Daniel Day Lewis has just signed to play captain nemo in the 20k leagues remake which might be a trilogy like pirates with all kinds of jules Verne gadgets like a nautilus that transforms into a walking robot and a bit of steamboy influence.Yes I'm a spy who knows everything before harry.Also elric of melnibone has been greenlit starring the guy from hellboy 2 and Heath ledger as yarkoon.In addition johnny depp will star as dream of the endless, the chick from casino royale as death- you see? All is right with the world of movies now that the actual world has gone to hell
Milius' Conan... by BrooseTheScharuk	Jul 21st, 2008 01:29:14 PM
...was a fun movie with great production values and beautiful cinematography. I even think Arnold was pretty well cast as Conan (though I don't want to see him anywhere near a Conan movie today), but the real problem with that movie -- for fans of the literary character -- was actually MILIUS. He sodomized the whole concept of Conan and made him a simpering ex-slave on a cliched revenge mission, and mixed in his own fixation with eastern philosophy and Nietzchean ideals. Those of you who have only seen the Arnold movie don't realize that a faithful take on Conan based on his literary adventures -- if done right and WITHOUT any of the square-peg-in-a-round-hole concepts slapped onto the mythology by Milius -- could be, to the Conan character, what Christopher Nolan's cinematic efforts have been so far to the Batman character. This is what Paradox/Nu Image/ whatever they call themselves have been promising to bring with a new Conan movie. I'm not interested in a 1982 nostalgia trip with a saggy old bodybuilder who never knew or cared anything about the character he was playing anyway (thanks largely to the guy who directed the movie). Gimme the wiley, brutal, and infinitely capable Cimmerian with the icy blue eyes, knife-cut hair and battle scar riddled face and body. They have stated that they are looking for an unknown, and I feel that's absolutely the way to go. Conan, as written in the stories, is way fucking cooler, scarier, more heroic and violent than anything cooked up in any movie I've seen to date. Not a lumbering muscle-head, but a lighning fast, born-to-kill warrior who moves like a wild animal and sees through the deceptive ways of "civilization". Again, those of you who are so deficient in imagination that you were blind-sided by a movie like The Dark Knight need to know that you are just not able to imagine how good a faithful Conan adaptation could be; you are unable to see past the Milius/Schwarzenegger-establis hed movie universe; blinded by your own nostalgia. Most people seem unable to imagine something beyond what's already been shown to them. If you think 300 was badass, you just have no idea what you could be in for with a "real" Conan movie.
Give General Crom his own website by Lenny8	Jul 21st, 2008 01:30:56 PM
That post was better than anything AICN put out in the last 50 years.
its gonna be a huge flop no matter what by the milf lover	Jul 21st, 2008 01:44:18 PM
As great an actor as Djimon Hounsou is, he's not a-list enough to bring an audience in because most of the idiot populace cant fucking say his name right. And nobody except the real fans know what the hell Thulsa Doom is, not even the ones who saw the Conan movies. All theyre gonna think when they see the trailers is that its a cheap knockoff of "that movie with the guy who played Hercules" (meaning that Krull movie with Kevin Sorbo nobody saw or liked). As for Conan, am I the only one who thinks Ralph Moeller did a great job in the role in that lame tv series from the 90s, or am I the only one who watched that show?
Have James Earl Jones Dub in the voice by Samuel Fulmer	Jul 21st, 2008 03:29:57 PM
That's the only way this could work. 70 percent of what made Thulsa Doom so cool in Milius' Conan was Jones' voice.
DeckardBladeRunner by El Borak	Jul 21st, 2008 04:26:52 PM
true. i was about to say the same but i figured that the good patrons of the talkback would remedy it.
Conan the Barbarian by FCR	Jul 21st, 2008 04:29:48 PM
This is the best hat and helmet movie of all time.
btw i love the conan films by El Borak	Jul 21st, 2008 04:36:23 PM
but the real conan kicks movie conan's ass.
btw i love the conan films by El Borak	Jul 21st, 2008 04:36:23 PM
but the real conan kicks movie conan's ass.
i agree with the fellow REHers by Prossor	Jul 21st, 2008 07:27:41 PM
the movie i love, my fav movie of 82 (yes even mro ethan blade runner) and one of my favorites of the 80s, THE best swords and sorcery movie, and yet the whole thing is a dry pussy fart compared to the shit written in the 30's tales.
Milius' CONAN was a great adaptation by Duke of Hurl	Jul 21st, 2008 10:32:07 PM
If you've actually read any Robert E. Howard.
Rose McGowan will NOT be Red Sonja by Lenny8 by Duke of Hurl	Jul 21st, 2008 10:35:12 PM
Where did you get this "news"? I don't know anything about such separation. Also, Rose McGowen found the project, so she's got dibs on it over Rodriguez.
Duke of Hurl... by BrooseTheScharuk	Jul 21st, 2008 11:07:30 PM
...you can only be one of those clowns who says shit just to start an argument. Ya big kidder.
Duke of Hurl by DocPazuzu	Jul 22nd, 2008 01:55:41 AM
Apparently, you haven't. Look, I love the Milius movie, but it's not Howard's Conan in any shape or form. Change all the names of people and places in Milius's film and nobody would se it as anything other than a great sword & sorcery movie. Nobody who's read Howard would say "Wait a minute -- that's fucking CONAN!" Milius himself said he used the Howard property for an excuse to make his "viking movie".
the milf lover by DocPazuzu	Jul 22nd, 2008 01:58:44 AM
No, you're not the only guy who saw the series, but you ARE the only guy who liked it. Seriously? The Conan TV series? WTF?
shout out to lenny-I'm fully autonomous: by General Crom	Jul 22nd, 2008 03:07:26 AM
I live in the bay and could interview folks up here and in LA. Harry give me a job- I'm here to fuck shit up!
Where the Hell is the RED NAILS film already?!?! by Monkey_King	Jul 22nd, 2008 03:31:38 AM
The site has been up for quite some time. When will we get to see or own this film?
I always enjoyed Conan by Ecto-1	Jul 22nd, 2008 04:47:40 AM
but then about a year or so ago, my wife bought me a book of the complete Conan stories. Upon reading them I quickly realised that the Conan movies had no resemblance to the stories. I think that if a new Conan movie was made that was faithful to the character and to the stories, we would have the darkest and most brutal fantasy movie ever. I think that a trilogy of Conan movies, beginning with a young Conan, showing his birth on a battlefield etc, then a second movie with him in his prime (Red Nails?), and the the third should be an adaptation of Hour of The Dragon, in which we have a much older Conan who is now King. A trilogy like this would wrap things up very nicely. But we won't get it. Instead we'll get some hack like Millius who simply wants to take the character and 'do their own thing with it' and not bother to look at the rich world that Robert E. Howard created. The only aspect of the Conan movies that I still like, is Basil Poledouris' incredible music. If a new movie gets made I'd love to see them keep the Conan theme, 'Anvil of Crom'.
I call bogus on this.... by vintagecrow	Jul 22nd, 2008 06:09:39 AM
To be honest I would be surprised if Conan did make it to the screen and having a movie about Thulsa Doom? Having read most of the Howard stories when I was in my teens concerning Conan and Kull I can say that there really hasn't been a Conan movie but a movie that was titled Conan. If they really did do a Howard version of Conan, it would blow the doors of the movie house. =)
Beowulf by DeckardBladeRunner	Jul 22nd, 2008 07:38:32 AM
Let me spell it out for you- you seem a bit slow I referenced Darth vader and Sherlock Holmes as well known literary characters that have nothing to do with eachother, and how silly it would be to mix them, I could have said Voldemort and the Wizard of Oz, it makes no difference, it's dumb. The JeJ/ vader thing was merely a co-incidence. Why I dont like this 1-Thulsa the movie character was a fun villain, leave him at that, nobody cares about his fall from grace 2- stop shitting on REH by saying things in this article (to the AICN author, and Houson (sp?) about wanting to explore REH, this is all pastiche fan fiction. 3- for christ sakes, explore the actual literary characters in the kick ass stories- Thoth Amon in "god in the bowl" In closing- this is another PC- re-con piece of shit that shits on the movie version, which I appreciate for what it is outside of REH, and shits on the Conan Books. It will fail, and be forgotten End of Line
PC REH is a fucking rotten idea by Lost Jarv	Jul 22nd, 2008 07:50:02 AM
as are all these fall from grace stories. It didn't work for Darth Vader. In fact, I can't think of an example of it actually working.
Milius NOT the man for CONAN by King Kull	Jul 22nd, 2008 09:14:22 AM
I've loved many of John Milius' projects, from RED DAWN to his TNT miniseries ROUGH RIDERS. That said, his Conan movie sucked. Turning the free born Cimmerian into a slave is like having Tarzan born in the South Bronx (It's the urban jungle, man). Milius turned Conan from an existential anti-hero to a doofus battling the California lifestyle. Plus Milius' Conan was a moron who took orders from a woman. Give us a real Conan, not the Governator.
You said it, King Kull. by DocPazuzu	Jul 22nd, 2008 09:26:29 AM
The one thing that divorces the Milius version from REH more than anything else is making Conan an imbecillic former slave. If he hadn't been turned loose by his master, he would have been happy drooling and slicing as a pit gladiator forever. The REH Conan is a force of nature, an untamed, unbowed, fiercely intelligent, lightning-quick savage who would rather die than be subjected to slavery. I love the Milius movie, but it isn't and will never be a true Conan movie. Sorry, that's just the way it is.
DeckardBladeRunner by Beowulf316	Jul 22nd, 2008 09:37:33 AM
If anyone is slow in understanding your posts, maybe, it is because you don’t always write coherent paragraphs. You just tried to give 3 reasons why you don’t like this project, but what you gave was one good reason then two ranting commands to stop shitting on REH and read the source material. Also you’re trying to argue two conflicting points at one time. You say you like the CTB as a stand alone movie, then in the next breath you rally against this project because it is not true to REH. Why can it not be another stand alone movie? You don’t want to see a stand alone movie about a villain’s fall from grace, ok I understand that’s your opinion and I accept it as such. I’ve never said this movie would be a success I’ve never even said it would be good. My post was a comment on how any time a Conan movie is mentioned, REH purist show up to rip it a part in moments since it conflicts with the original source. Some of them get very upset and bitch and moan to no end. Whether or not you belong in this group I am uncertain. You defend CTB then play the “not true to the source” card. At any rate, many more post here demonstrate my point. Also, my comments on the Darth Vader connection was an attempt at humor, I apologize if it was unclear.
Nikki Cox vs McGowen by jonsnow	Jul 22nd, 2008 12:34:19 PM
Nikki Cox would be my idea of what a redheaded warrior should look like. Rose will make red sonja look like a straight to dvd production. Sad that actresses like Cox are overlooked for a part that they were born for. The casting has nothing to do with talent and everything to do with the director's crush on the girl, sad story. -Jon
glad to see these posts by El Borak	Jul 22nd, 2008 01:24:15 PM
r.e.h. rules.
xuthal of the dusk by Prossor	Jul 23rd, 2008 03:04:24 AM
is probably my favorite story so far, i've only read 1/3 or so of howard's tales. i'venot read the longer ones like hour of the dragon, mostly the short stories but i could pick so many for my favorite but xuthal's setting appealed to me, the city in the middle of hte desert that turns out to be one gigantic temple with hundreds of rooms and the half-asleep wanderers and of course the evil entity xuthal roaming around the dark areas. good stuff. also frost giants daughter was trippy.

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