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by Drunken Rage
Jul 16th, 2008
05:54:20 AM
yeah, I hate the "first" posters, too
by Drunken Rage
Jul 16th, 2008
05:54:59 AM
I just couldn't help myself.
Why Even Bother Reviewing Stuff
by LeckoManiac
Jul 16th, 2008
06:15:29 AM
That has already been released? I mean, most people get their comics on Wednesday so if you aren't going to review books BEFORE they come out or at the very least THE DAY they come out...why even bother? I NEVER come here for Comic Book stuff. No reason too when every other site has beaten you too it. Hell, The Zone, AICN's own message board has better comic book coverage.
Jim Shooter goes off on Secret Invasion
by Irving_Forbush
Jul 16th, 2008
06:19:28 AM
Over at Fake Stan Lee's blog, Shooter crits #4, and naturally, he says that Secret Wars was much better... http://tinyurl.com/5d6fqh
Booster GOOOOLLLLLDDDD!!!!!!!!
by DuncanHines
Jul 16th, 2008
06:20:08 AM
I love that book. I need to get the 52 trades for easy access reading, and the Booster HCs. Who'd have known Geoff Johns could polish that turd to such a beautiful shine?
CS Lewis?
by hypno27
Jul 16th, 2008
06:22:38 AM
CS Lewis was Narnia and all that Lion as Jebus metaphor. Not Alice, that was the well known slightly dodgy reverand Dodgson (Lewis Carrol)
Uhmmm Lecko
by optimous_douche
Jul 16th, 2008
06:33:01 AM
If you don't come here for reviews, then how did you come here to post that you don't like our reviews????

I'm confused.

Whoops...fixed.
by Ambush Bug
Jul 16th, 2008
06:33:23 AM
Thanks for the heads up, hypno.
There's always one guy...
by Ambush Bug
Jul 16th, 2008
06:47:57 AM
...complaining about why we don't buy books and run out immediately to review them for us to tell them what to think so that they don't have to. If that's what you want, Leko, you're in the wrong place, m'man.

Here at AICN Comics, we're regular schmoes just like everyone in the talkbacks. We get very little by way of comps and still have that rush every Wednesday when we go out and buy our books. Then we go home and read them avidly, just like you. Then we take some time to think about them and write out reviews that you really can't find anywhere else because we've taken a bit of time to mull them over and try to present them in an inteligent and well thought out way. It's been like that for over seven years, and you know what? It's worked out pretty well for us and aside from the occasional guy like you who pop up about once every six weeks, the talkbacks seem to be ok with it.

Personally, I'd rather wait for a well thought out review from someone I know wasn't influenced by receiving free shwag than take any investment in the thoughts of someone who's main goal is to churn out some thoughts prematurely in order to meet a deadline. Simply put, we're worth the wait.

Then again, you may be the McDonalds hamburger type.

I like steak. Good steak. Takes a bit more time to cook. But it's a hell of a lot more satisfying during and long after consumption.

But like OD says, you no likee, no one is forcing you to be here.
Secret Invasion deserves some serious criticism
by Chewtoy
Jul 16th, 2008
07:15:55 AM
Not some namby-pamby "Don't get me wrong" apologetic suggestions that it maybe, possibly could be better. The Marvel Universe has been swallowed up by it for most of this decade, if you believe that the origins of it have been seeded throughout everything Bendis has touched (which is everything at this point.) If you're going this soft on things, then it's time to change your name from @ssholes.
BottleImp...
by Noisybast
Jul 16th, 2008
07:22:16 AM
The Oreos/Chocos thing has been common knowledge for some time. DC had J'onn switch brands some time ago. More info here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M artian_Manhunter#Justice_Leagu e
I tend to agree, chewtoy
by Ambush Bug
Jul 16th, 2008
07:34:33 AM
Not about changing our name, but about the whole claim that Bendis had this planned out from the beginning. It just doesn't jibe with the way Marvel has been run for the last decade. I mean, they can't even get a miniseries out on time without delays and we're supposed to believe that they had the ability to plan this five years ago. Of course, there's no way of proving it and Bendis and Co will swear up and down that this is something that has been in the works for ages, but SECRECT INVASION seems something much more akin to a retrofit than anything else. I'm not saying it isn't entertaining. I'm not saying I'm not enjoying the miniseries, but I just can't believe that Bendis has what it takes to do this. What I saw at WIZARDWORLD CHICAGO this year, was a pretty polished Bendis (not talking about his bald head). He's learned what to say and do in order to get "cred" with the fans. If he quotes an issue number and a specific story or obscure character, the zombies baa like sheep. The guy didn't even know who Alpha Flight was. He gave Daredevil the super strength to lift a car in his first DD storyarc. Now I'm supposed to believe that he's such a Marvel Zombie? No dice. What Bendis did looks to be more like what Lucas did with Boba Fett. He threw around some ambiguous stories with some plot holes (either intentionally or unintentionally added), then got together with the Marvel Illuminati Brain Trust (Bendis, Quesada, Millar (who co-wrote SKRULL KILL KREW with Morrison, BTW) and whoever else is in that sewing circle) and thought up a pretty decent idea of how to fill in the gaps, fix the mistakes, and make everyone involved seem smarter and more hip with the fans. Again, there's no way of proving this and it doesn't take away from the quality of the product (the series has been surprisingly fun although the last issue was a bit breezy the way it's popping around and introducing new and uninspired characters), but if you believe Bendis had this planned from NEW AVENGERS #1, I have a bridge to sell you.
WATCHMEN TRAILER DESCRIPTION!!!!
by ChiefRoberts
Jul 16th, 2008
07:40:52 AM
Read it here! http://chud.com/articles/artic les/15591/1/DEVIN-WATCHES-THE- WATCHMEN-TRAILER/Page1.html
i love this column
by Lt. Kaffee
Jul 16th, 2008
07:50:38 AM
and i don't even read comics anymore. i abandoned the stuff over 10 years ago. back then i was such a rabid, continuity obsessed fan that even these snippets/reviews/editorials on the current state of comics satisfies my inner geek. i read this column on a regular basis to get my taste of the current state of comics and ponder an eventual return to my own weekly comic buying. maybe one day... but until then, keep up the good work!
so no review of Squadron Supreme 1, eh?
by omarthesnake
Jul 16th, 2008
07:56:44 AM
or did i miss it before? Man, that sucked.
I will review my feelings when I saw SQUADRON SUPREME on the she
by Ambush Bug
Jul 16th, 2008
08:04:33 AM
I walked into the comic shop, saw Howard Chaykin's name on the cover, remembered how the series petered out, and saw the crappy "re-imaginings" of Marvel characters on the cover, and said, "NOIN'T!!!"
I need buying help!
by speed
Jul 16th, 2008
08:14:56 AM
I spend a lot of time on trains and got a whole lot of time coming up at the beach. I need reading material! What I am reading now...scalped, 100 bullets, invincible, fables, Y, exterminators, noble causes, powers, garth ennis punisher, the boys, wormwood, hawaiian dick, criminal, walking dead, grimjack. They are the basics. And yeah, I've read most of the new classics. grew up with them. anybody want my signed martha washington hardback???

Thanks.

Yeah, Watchmen looked pretty good.
by rev_skarekroe
Jul 16th, 2008
08:15:21 AM
Saw the trailer last night. But the genius running the Imax projector started it halfway through, so I missed the beginning part.
I need buying help!
by speed
Jul 16th, 2008
08:15:41 AM
I spend a lot of time on trains and got a whole lot of time coming up at the beach. I need reading material! What I am reading now...scalped, 100 bullets, invincible, fables, Y, exterminators, noble causes, powers, garth ennis punisher, the boys, wormwood, hawaiian dick, criminal, walking dead, grimjack. They are the basics. And yeah, I've read most of the new classics. grew up with them. anybody want my signed martha washington hardback???

Thanks.

it won't allow my comments to be posted???
by speed
Jul 16th, 2008
08:16:08 AM
OOPS...sorry. I haven't poster here for a long time
by speed
Jul 16th, 2008
08:17:04 AM
heh...
by blackthought
Jul 16th, 2008
08:19:27 AM
nice.
Speed
by optimous_douche
Jul 16th, 2008
08:30:39 AM
Have you tried Ellis' Stormwatch, Authority or Planetary. Those are a few of my modern favorites.
What I'm enjoying / canceling...
by BangoSkank
Jul 16th, 2008
08:32:46 AM
Yeah.... SI doesn't feel like something that's been planned out for years, but I'm still enjoying it. I'm receiving SI, New Avengers, and Mighty each month... but still feel like I'm missing out on a lot of the action, but the three core books are providing enough to make me happy.... I may go out and fill in some of the holes if the trades look good, and reread the whole damn thing....

I really enjoyed the second Dark Tower mini, and look forward to more.... Though, I am a Tower junkie, so take it for what that's worth. Enjoyed the backup tales by Robin Firth too.... And, I might add, am also looking forward to the The Stand adaptation.

On the other hand, I was a little disappointed with Astonishing X-men, but I'll give it some time.... I liked the fact that the book was separate from the others, so if the X-books were stinking it up, I always had AX... Not so much anymore. Also, I've never been a huge Storm fan, and worry that I'm going to like her even less as a Queen, but I guess I'll try to reserve too harsh a judgment. Also thought the "street clothes" were a little silly...

Books I canceled this week include:

Cable.... Which is a great example of Marvel stretching what could be covered in two issues, out to an unsatisfying five issue arch. Fuck him, fuck that. I enjoyed the crossover from which it sprung, but not enough to keep reading that shit.

Ultimates.... I know it didn't come out last week, but the first couple of issues had seen a serious decline in entertainment value, and who the fuck knows when it'll get another issue on the stands...Also, it was the last Ultimate book I was reading, so now I've wiped my hands of it completely. Feels pretty good to do so.... Admittedly, I may take a look at the crossover in trade-form. But maybe not.

And finally, Squadron Supreme... Talk about a fuckin' nose-dive. It went from being a great read, to a good read, when it switched over from being a "Big-Boy" comic to an all ages mag.... Than they got me to shell-out for the two miniseries, which were unnecessary garbage, so that I didn't even subscribe to the SS/Ultimate crossover.... And now? Another reboot, creating another Fantastic Four, Spider(wo)man, etc... and with only five issues to bring it all together. No fucking thank you.

Wow.
by BangoSkank
Jul 16th, 2008
08:33:52 AM
I didn't mean to go on like that.... too much coffee.
S'alright Bangoskank.
by rev_skarekroe
Jul 16th, 2008
08:42:20 AM
I understand. I gave up on the Ultimate Universe, too. The last one I read was Ultimate Human, and that was entirely because Ellis wrote it. I thumbed through Ultimate Origins. Looks like the stories I made up in my head are better than the ones Bendis is writing for this. Ultimates 3 is phenomenally stupid. Ultimate FF got silly somewhere in there. Ultimate Spidey is, like most Bendis stuff, hit or miss. And I gave up on Ultimate X-Men years ago.

Of course, I'll return for Ultimate Hulk vs. Wolverine #3 if they ever decide to print that.

Optimus douche
by speed
Jul 16th, 2008
08:56:14 AM
Yep. Love transmet but couldn't get into the planetary. Havent tried authority or stormwatch. I always assumed there were too superheroish for me. not that theres anything wrong with that!
Justice Society needs to do things the way they did...
by The Nihilist
Jul 16th, 2008
08:58:17 AM
..in classic "Superboy and the Legion of Superheroes." Make the team EVEN BIGGER (Ryan Choi is available now that "The Atom" has been cancelled, might as well bring S.T.R.I.P.E. on board to annoy Courtney as well) and then have a "roll call" of just five or six of them for each issue or story arc. That way they aren't constantly tripping over each other, as Hawkman rightly points out in issue #17. And the reviewer is right, this Gog thing is slow. My guess is they're just marking time until Something Really Big happens in "Final Crisis" that will have an effect on this title, but yeah. Slow. Numbingly slow.
Who reviewed Voltron?
by Squashua
Jul 16th, 2008
09:09:22 AM
Bug, the reviewer name is missing.
Whoa-- that Shooter column
by Laserhead
Jul 16th, 2008
09:10:55 AM
is pretty brutal, and makes at least one excellent point-- "It’s decompressed storytelling at it’s finest, and by decompressed storytelling I mean listless, lazy-ass storytelling that feigns realism with maudlin character moments as a substitute for actual plot development." Good one, Jim. You fucking asshole.
Jim Shooter, you silly man.
by rev_skarekroe
Jul 16th, 2008
09:12:59 AM
At least Bendis know that not every sentence needs to end in an exclamation point.
JSA
by Bluejack
Jul 16th, 2008
09:13:23 AM
I gave up on this book a long time ago for the reasons mentioned by the reviewer. Too many characters and not enough plot movement. Somewhere along the line the Ultimate line jumped the shark. Maybe Spider-Man 100.
I like the reviews
by Animation
Jul 16th, 2008
09:16:19 AM
I just wanted to say that I appreciate the reviews. I come HERE for my reviews. As you said in your response to the complaint, you guys are just regular comic book fans who take some time, mull things over, and post your thoughts. Thats exactly what I want. Also, I dont buy every title, so reviews on stuff I'm not currently reading are always useful, regardless of the timing. So, many thanks to all of you. Additionally let me say that I view the Skrull secret war stuff as a back-fill "whoops" on writing a bunch of divisive and sloppy crap. Now they are trying to make it like all the awkward choices, failed character behaviors, and mis-handled plots were on purpose. No thanks. :) Just an opinion. :)
I can't take continuity Marvel anymore
by spidercoz
Jul 16th, 2008
09:19:17 AM
All the big titles involved in huge mega-crossover events every fucking year has worn me out. It's all so convoluted and contrived it makes me want to jab my thumbs into my eyes. The fringe Marvel titles are the way to go. Nova - brilliant. Eternals, I'm digging it. Thor, what's not to like? Keep the "biggest, most earth-shattering events ever" away from me. "The Marvel Universe Will Never Be The Same!!!" - blech. How many times in a year can you really get away with that? The only thing I really want is Spidey back, damnit. Bring on the Brand Old Day, get him out of the other books, and make him Spidey again. My only fix anymore is Ultimate, which is damn good. And yeah, what the hell did happen to Ultimate Hulk vs Wolvie? Fuck, even Kevin Smith got shit out timelier than this.
Ultimate X-Men
by spidercoz
Jul 16th, 2008
09:28:06 AM
Dude, if you missed the Apocalypse arc a few months ago, find it. That shit was outstanding. Blew the fuck out of the Ultimate Thanos arc in FF, that was garbage. Two of the best villains ever, at least one was well represented.
Action, Superman Renaissance
by mattb127
Jul 16th, 2008
10:20:56 AM
Action Comics and All Star Superman are (surprisingly) two of the best reads in the last year. I hated Infinite Crisis, but I have to say, Johns is kicking ass and taking names on Action and on Green Lantern. Superman is totally cool for the first time in like 20 years, also thanks to Morrison--All Star Superman actually warms my shriveled heart. I feel like there's a real return to the Silver Age, to the science fiction aspect of Superman, and that rules. He SHOULD be saving planets and fighting galactic menaces like Braniac, a character who is handled here with awesome creepiness. He should be really, really scary. Same thing with Luthor, who was also handled well in the Last Son Arc, (even though that took for freakin' ever.) Bringing back the Legion, and the Silver Age aspects of Superman has worked, for Johns and for Morrison--not sure it's as successful with Morrison's current Batman run, which, come on, is kind of a disaster.
ENOUGH 911
by Lukecash
Jul 16th, 2008
10:22:34 AM
It didn't change a damn thing. Seriously. For a few days we were all brought together. For a bit we were patriotic. For a while we were paranoid. Now we are firmly back at politics as usual and a jaded America.

Storytellers are telling stories-pure and simple. Just because a disaster appears in fiction and there is a survivor, doesn't mean it's tied into 911-okay?

Return to the silver age?
by Lukecash
Jul 16th, 2008
10:30:12 AM
God no...please. Fuck that shit. I don't mind getting back to basis. And I love All Star Supes...but as a love letter to a bygone era. I sure in the hell wouldn't pick it up as a continuing series or part of continuity.

Still-no complaints on what Johns is doing on action-which is the combination of silver and contemporary.

Fury's team is the best thing about SECRET INVASION
by Tacom
Jul 16th, 2008
10:49:38 AM
I like seeing him lead a new group of commandos to battle the Skrulls.
NOVA Is Marvel's Best Book
by LaserPants
Jul 16th, 2008
10:49:52 AM
Hands down.
Secret Invasion is more boring than baffling
by krushjudgement
Jul 16th, 2008
10:53:05 AM
The first issue was great. Now I just want the damn thing to end.
Secret Invasion, Silver Age, reviews
by Homer Sexual
Jul 16th, 2008
10:58:38 AM
First off, thanks to last week's reviews, I went and bought the Thor:Reign of Blood, and really enjoyed it. I remember when I was a kid, I didn't like the Asgardians because they were all such a$$holes, and as an adult, am glad to see their reprehensible godlike behavior again. So thanks.

However, Booster Gold sounds so boring, despite the good review. Booster on his own=well, no. Put him back in a group, where he belongs.

Secret Invasion 4 was the first SI let down for me. The cover was misleading and not much happened. And at this point, it seems to me only minor characters are skrulls now. Like Bendis, I adore Jessica Drew. But I can't help thinking that he decided if he couldn't get her an ongoing book, he'd make her the big bad of this event. Who else is a skrull? Jarvis, electra, Yellowjacket..there's a biggie. I am hoping that at the end, we will see some "big guns" turn out to be skrulls, and that seriously confusing behavior such as Jessica the Skrull Queen outing the whole invasion in the first place will be explained. But I now expect to be disappointed. Sigh. And it started off so well. I still hold out a ray of hope, though.

On the same topic, I am not here to really defend Shooter, but he did do some good things way back when, and Secret Wars was one of them. It was totally better than any recent Marvel events. Why? Because lots of sh!t happened and actually affected the MU for some time. It was fast moving, entertaining and altogether satisfying. Can't take that away from him. Notice, though, that he doesn't mention Secret Wars II...wonder why not...and his new Legion seems to confirm that he is a relic now.

Speaking of relics, and speaking as a relic (over 40 and reading comics for about 30 years)..and repeating myself like the crotchety old guy I am...this pending return to the Silver Age fills me with worry. I just can't believe anyone, even geezers like me, wanted Barry Allen to return. Who asked for that? Who could possibly think he's more interesting than Wally West or anyone? I don't get it.

I saw a quote for this colum on a 2000ad prog a while back
by O_Goncho
Jul 16th, 2008
11:04:30 AM
Do you guys only review the trade paperbacks, or do you sometimes do the weekly progs too? Just curious.
Chewtoy
by Jinxo
Jul 16th, 2008
11:17:39 AM
I wasn't meaning to be apologetic about Secret Invasion. If I was wishy washy on it at all it would be because pieces of it have been entertaining but in terms of all the parts building to a cohesvive big picture, again I go to the puzzle analogy, too many pieces in too many places coming together so slow that big picture stays very hard to see.

But more than that, in my write-up I actually tried to not go too deeply into Secret Invasion since my intenet was really to write up Ultimate Origins. With Bendis having another "epic" going on though it was hard not to makes some comparisons. In the end I did compare the two titles enough that the suggestion was made to run the review as a comparison review. Made sense so I said okay. But if going in I had known it would run as a full on Secret Invasion Vs Ultimate Origins piece I would have had much more so say.

To be brief, Secret Invasion, again, is too too big so that we the readers aren't given a good point of view to truly see the big picture. The main book does not carry enough of the weight of the event. Back in the old days if you had an event book the main title could be read on its own, carrying the lionshare of the event's plot with the tie in books merely adding extra info about how that event impacted that book's heroes. Here, the main book seems to be all about showing us some of the bigger flashier moments with few big picture details. If it does give us details it is usually in narrations saying, "Oh, did we not mention this before? Sorry." The tie-in books end up carrying too much of the story's heft. Okay, maybe some would see that better that the tie-ins being extraneous side plots the buyer is being "suckered" into buying but they should also not carry so much weight you have to buy them to fill in details the main series is NOT providing. I mean that Secret Invasion one shot a few weeks back that added tons of plot details? Folks liked it. Based on content I liked it. But I also thought it was a sign of some shitty writing/organization of this event. All these plot points had to be relegated to a side book? How about writing the thing correctly so these stories get, oh, I dunno, integrated into the main title?

By contrast Ultimate Origin is doing what Invasion is not. Big concept story involving an entire universe, two time frames and tons of characters. All of it is in one book. It's focused. There are no wasted moments. It feels like we are getting the meat of the story AND the splashy big moments without it feeling like we're missing anything. It's not too big and spread out like Invasion.

If on the other hand instead of being an @$$hole you prefer to call me a pu$$y, your choice. I'll do my best to live up to the @$$hole moniker and to help you live up to your name. Chewtoy was it?
Secret Invasion Is Better Than Final Crisis, Though
by LaserPants
Jul 16th, 2008
11:26:52 AM
At least so far. This, of course, could change.

As it stands, Final Crisis makes almost no sense; it representing the aftermath of a cosmic war between good and evil that occurred... when? Where? Why? What happened? Was is cool and scary and awesome? We don't know. Will we ever know? Will issue 3 demonstrate what this cosmic war between good and evil was like? It should. I mean, seriously, I had to read the first two issues twice to figure out what the fuck is going on. And its not because the key events are too difficult to understand, but because the key events don't even happen in the book! "Good lost!" Oh really? Fancy letting us know, or even better, showing us how good lost? (Visual cues being very important in a graphic storytelling medium.) It might help.

Of course, issue 3 might answer these nagging questions which should have already been demonstrated in the book, but if it doesn't, if the series doesn't start picking up and making some kind of sense, I think its going to be an Epic Fail. Of course, its too early to judge, but, as things are going, I'm way underwhelmed.

Secret Invasion is mostly flash, sure (although the side stories are great), but at least it delivers the goods -- there's an invasion, a war, and we're seeing it happen. Imagine if Secret Invasion was being told as if the invasion already happened and "good lost" but we never got to see it? So far, that seems to be whats going on with Final Crisis -- a story told about the aftermath of something we never saw.
where the fuck is my walking dead review
by JBouganim1
Jul 16th, 2008
11:28:42 AM
The Silver Age
by mattb127
Jul 16th, 2008
11:29:35 AM
I'm not saying we go back to 1955. But clearly, characters like Green Lantern and Superman, who are basically omnipotent, don't really work without the silver age, science-fiction elements of their characters. In Superman's case, what does that mean? Well, it means a phantom zone, it means space adventures, it means Supergirl and Kandor and other dimensions and time travel and all that. It means Science Fiction, because even in the late eighties/early nineties, the best Superman stuff was the science fiction stuff--for example, when he went to Warworld and became a gladiator, and fought Mongul, or when he went to Apokolips and fought Darkseid. The successful Alan Moore stories (Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow?, For the Man who Has Everything, and even the Swamp Thing story--all very heavy on the science fiction. Morrison's All-Star and Johns's Action proves it. Come on, who the hell cared about Action Comics until ZOD?!? The character can't work without playing up his alienness, and giving him real, cosmic threats to fight. When he has that, all that human stuff falls into place, because in his quest to be human, he becomes human. When you think of the last twenty years of Superman stories, what was close to as good as this stuff? The Intergang stuff, the "human drama soap opera/Lois & Clark" Superman isn't really that interesting. Same thing with Green Lantern. Take away the Green Lantern Corps and make him a whiny, grey-templed recovering drunk driver? He should be like Shatner's Kirk, bedding down hot Alien Chicks and fighting weird intergalactic menaces, like the Sinestro Corps, and then rebelling against his alien overlords with his hot human temper. Otherwise, he's just a boring god with a ring. And whether you like it or not, DC is definitely taking us back to the Silver Age. Consider: the return of the multiverse? Check. The Return of weird, science fiction heroes like Animal Man, Adam Strange, etc.? Check. The return of Barry Allen, who some say launched the silver age, check. Morrison's taking us back to Robin Dies at Dawn storyline, bringing back Batmite and the League of batmen. Holy Silver Age, Batman! I'm not quite sure it works with Batman though--the silver age almost killed that character. In Green Lantern's case,
911 didn't change anything Lukecash?
by Dingleberry Jones
Jul 16th, 2008
11:48:16 AM
I've got news for you, it changed damn near every aspect of life in America. 911 is the reason guys are riding around in a beat-to-shit Humvee in Afghanistan/Iraq. The government has pretty much eliminated any aspect of privacy and America is no longer admired in the world but pretty much fucking loathed. So yeah, your assessment that everything is the same as 9/10 is spot-on. And as far as the comics go, outside of Green Lantern, which is badass on multiple levels, everything else DC is rolling out is about as interesting as a three day-old cat turd. However, based on the review of the new Action book, I might pick it up.
911 Changed How The US Carries Out Torture
by LaserPants
Jul 16th, 2008
11:54:43 AM
Back in the old days we used to send CIA operatives to our various proxy dictatorships (like Iraq under Saddamn when he was our "ally") to teach them how to torture. No we just moved the prison off-shore and do it ourselves! Wow!
Also with the 9/11 Analogy Luke
by optimous_douche
Jul 16th, 2008
12:17:58 PM
I think I explained pretty well what I was going for.

Not to toot my own horn, but I think my theory on Cloverfield never being created without the 9/11 footage inspiration was sorta insightful.

I know I'm a wordy fucker, but at least get through the second paragraph before you post.

Dan Didio is an idiot.
by riskebiz
Jul 16th, 2008
12:27:14 PM
The only reason Final Crisis exists is so he can kill off characters that only HE doesn't get. Dick Grayson's days are numbered because Dan Didio is playing to an audience of one: Himself. Fire Didio already. Hire Palmiotti. Hire ANYONE and it would be better than continuing the publicity stunts Didio only knows how to do.
Squash & O Goncho
by Ambush Bug
Jul 16th, 2008
12:46:02 PM
Squash, I did the Indie Jones review of VOltron. I stopped tagging every one of my little indie reviews because it was starting to look a bit redundant with my name after every paragraph. Sorry for the confusion.

About 2000ad. Being from the states, I only get to look at 2000AD titles in trade form. I plan on reviewing the latest SLAINE trade by Mills and Bisley very soon. The art looks fantastic. With I could review more of the 2000AD books but those trades are girthy effers and it takes me a while to get through them. But we try to cover 2000AD's awesome sci fi books whenever we can in our indie jones section.
"Most of us get out comics on Wednesday..."
by DennisMM
Jul 16th, 2008
01:34:54 PM
Maybe if you live in an urban/suburban area and can make the trip to the shop more than every few weeks. Maybe if you have a job that lets you out before the shop closes. (While many stay open later on Wednesdays, many do not.) Maybe if you do go to a shop, rather than get your comics via subscription service (though you're extra-screwed on review delays there). Maybe if you make a passable amount of money and have that steady flow of dollars every week or two, allowing you to drop the dough every Wednesday or Friday or Saturday (instead of having to wait 'til month's end to see what's left in the bank account). Cripes, grow some perspective man.

Oh, and jinxo? No offense, but the word is "pissah." Pissah. ;-)
grrr ...
by DennisMM
Jul 16th, 2008
01:35:26 PM
fucking lack of edit function. OUR comics, not out.
Riskebiz
by mattb127
Jul 16th, 2008
01:38:19 PM
Totally agreed about DiDio, and shocked that I didn't know this about Nightwing, although I guess it doesn't surprise me. I'm creeped out by some of the shit DC has pulled since they brought Didio on board. Voyeuristic, marketing trash. Using rape and murder as a marketing gimmick is sleazy and unfortunate. And it won't last. But I have to say, Action, Green Lantern, and All Star Superman are excellent books. And, despite everything, Final Crisis is a good read. Provided they don't chicken-out like Marvel. But they will. In the end, they will.
Nova is the best Marvel title out there
by FatRat
Jul 16th, 2008
01:51:35 PM
Having read Nova from the beginning in the 70's and his rebirth with the New Warriors, and his own title in the 90's I'm glad to see that he is finally a rising star in the Marvel line. This iteration, starting with Annihilation has been great! I hope they can keep it up and not screw it up, though with it being Marvel, it's only a matter of time.
Stop hogging all the reviews, Bug!
by Squashua
Jul 16th, 2008
02:22:06 PM
Dammit, stop letting the rest of us have lives!
Here's your Walking Dead #50 Review
by Squashua
Jul 16th, 2008
02:25:15 PM
This issue follows the son of the main character, after all the shit that went down last issue. It's a good "slice of life" story, or rather "slice of unlife". Hah. Touching, and obviously the start of a completely new arc, but you can pass if you want. Then-again, it's already sold out. Speculators best be snatchin'.
J'onn's cookies
by DennisMM
Jul 16th, 2008
03:30:18 PM
Nabisco did, indeed, ask DC to stop using the Oreo name. Why? Because they've got the world's biggest flaming lance up their asses, I suppose. I never saw anything in the books that suggested a negative view of the Oreo cookie. Perhaps Nabisco just doesn't like being associated with green aliens. Fuck, it did wonders for Reese's Pieces.
P.S. to comics on Wednesday
by DennisMM
Jul 16th, 2008
03:31:19 PM
Leck, ya know I love ya, but I had to call ya on this one.
AICN
by Series7
Jul 16th, 2008
04:40:07 PM
Is all over the Nova printings.
Ambush Bug
by hst666
Jul 16th, 2008
06:09:35 PM
What do you mean by planned? If you mean every last detail and character story, then no. Obviously, Millar and Pak had their own stories to tell and Bendis worked around those. However, I am generally skeptical and I believe that Secret Invasion was generally outlined and planned when Bendis wrote New Avengers 1. Everything fits too well for it not to have been.

Which does not necessarily make it a great read.

Also, where did you hear that quote about Alpha Flight? I do not know whether that makes me more or less pissed about what BB did to them in New Avengers.

Yeah those $3.99 price tags are a major bitch...
by qweruiop
Jul 16th, 2008
06:18:10 PM
...I was at a blockbuster recently, hadn't bought a direct issue comic in years (I always buy older discounted comics through Mile High online), saw that there was some cool looking Civil war issue in a small comic book aisle. It looked like a recap comic, which interested me since I stayed out of the entire Civil war storyline...freaking comic was $4.99. I thought to myself damn, why does it cost 5 bucks for something that's roughly the same amount of pages as any other comic? And then I noticed that "regular" comics are now priced $2.99 to $3.50. Count me out of it. Too much money for too little stuff. And Marvel and DC wonder why orders are down.
Not exactly sure where I heard it...
by Ambush Bug
Jul 16th, 2008
06:18:39 PM
But I do remember Bendis' reaction to the outrage from fans about the one panel death of the entire team was that he didn't even really know who they were. Anyone else remember this or able to provide a link?
Pissah
by Jinxo
Jul 16th, 2008
08:17:30 PM
You are correct! Damn.
Jinxo
by Chewtoy
Jul 16th, 2008
08:53:08 PM
First, my comments were aimed at the entirety of the @ssholes, although your review obviously was what set me off, so it likely seems a little more pointed in your direction than I intended. I wouldn't call you a pussy. Oddly enough, not only do I not approve of personal attacks on faceless people over the internet, but I'm not even a guy who loves throwing around gynecological references for emphasis, no matter what kind of chocolate coating the latest movie reviewed here might have. But I don't have a problem giving an opinion, and I stand by my comments in regards to the whole of Secret Invasion. You guys call yourselves @ssholes... the connotation is that you're not ones to unduly treat what you review with kid gloves. Well, Secret Invasion is anything but a struggling little independent title that deserves a break... It's a monster sucking in an insane number of monthly books (and thereby fans' hard earned cash) from the biggest publisher in the business. If you guys have read the books and like them, that's fine... get out there pat 'em on the back in your reviews. But if you see problems in them, then my advice is to remember that you've called yourselves @ssholes and tear into 'em with no mercy. I don't visit comic sites, so this is my main source for comics news... I want to hear the unapologetic opinions you guys have of the series, and not have to wade through the talkbacks to find them. I can turn to Zero Punctuation Reviews for video games and know I'm not going to be spared any gory details about what may be off in a title, no matter how popular it may be. If I can't expect the same from a self-described @sshole, then the world is more bleak than I thought. P.S. I named myself Chewtoy because I'm perfectly fine with people tearing into me if they don't like my opinions.
Okay
by Jinxo
Jul 16th, 2008
09:28:22 PM
Well, see now, I did have to take offense for the very reasons you state. My review WAS the focus of your comment and that comment was looking at that review we shouldn't be able to call ourselves @$$holes. Intentional or not, I'm taking the brunt of that one. And if you come at me shouting, "Sir, YOU are not an @$$hole!" Well... I have no choice but to prove I am. I am not EVEN the guy who would ever mindlessly flame someone. But come up and smack me (even if that wasn't your actual intent)... I'm going for it. Like I said too, I was trying to stay brief on my Secret Invasion comments. I was trying to be brief while stating my true opinion: SI is hit and miss, more hit with the small bits, miss with the big picture. Less wishy washy and more... Conflicted? Ambivalent?
I'll take the bullet for the SECRET INVASION review...
by Ambush Bug
Jul 16th, 2008
09:39:26 PM
After I read Jinxo's ULTIMATE ORIGINS review, and knowing that no one was covering SECRET INVASION this week, and knowing that Jinxo covered SI almost as much as he covered UO in his review, I emailed him at the last minute and asked if it was ok to label the review as for both SI & UO. So when he was writing the review, Jinxo really intended to cover UO and merely reference SI. I think it was a fine review of both books, but if it seemed to lay into SI less, it was only because the review was intended to only focus on ULTIMATE ORIGINS.
There is only one way to end this
by Jinxo
Jul 16th, 2008
11:43:39 PM
You, sir, are DRUNK! And you! AND you! And so am I! And so... all is right with the world.
Fair enough... You're both proven, proud @ssholes
by Chewtoy
Jul 17th, 2008
12:08:20 AM
Er... in the most complimentary way, of course.
wtf....
by Bootskin
Jul 17th, 2008
02:57:50 AM
...is a prog? Offspring of Kermit and Miss Piggy?
Here's an idea
by Joenathan
Jul 17th, 2008
12:19:49 PM
If you guys are sooooooooo incapable of submitting timely reviews on Wednesday, perhaps you should put your reviews up on Friday, then instead of being an entire week late, you'd only be slightly irrelevant.
Alpha Flight
by Joenathan
Jul 17th, 2008
12:22:42 PM
Maybe what Bendis meant was: I didn't even know who they were because they suck ass and no one gives two shits about them and only complain about the one panel death because Bendis did it and the only reason they would have complained more would have been if Millar had done it. The comic book world is a better place with Alpha Flight dead.
Joenathan
by The Octagoner
Jul 17th, 2008
01:09:54 PM
Maybe you're participating in the wrong web-site? Nothing wrong with Alpha Flight at all. One of the most singular super-hero groups of the eighties. A writer killing off characters that have a rich history should probably at the least avail himself a bit of knowledge about them, since, you know, he's ending their existence.

Also, since the @$$holes have been reviewing comics like this, in this manner, for about seven years, do you really think you're the first slab of bitterness to "suggest" they could review earlier, or threaten them with the label of "irrelevance"? You know who's irrelevant? The lonely, pock-marked fatboy you see every time you look in the mirror.

Octagoner, Chuck Norris licks my ballsack
by Joenathan
Jul 17th, 2008
03:00:33 PM
Actually, I DO think I'm the first, so there. Also, how can I be lonely when surrounded by other very obviously bitter and pock-marked fanboys, such as you? Doctor, heal thyself. ANYWAY, It seems to me that every single week people complain about how these irrelevant reviews (yes, irrelevant, because I put to you that the number of people who are both searching out comic reviews and that are regular buyers have all already purchased last week's comics LAST WEEK and that therefore, any of these reviews’ ability to maybe deter or encourage purchases have largely lost their impact, so... irrelevant.) come out TOO late, so I’m suggesting a way to adjust and compromise. Why not put up your reviews on Friday? Why not? And finally, I defy you to come up with ANYTHING important, lasting, or even slightly interesting that happened in Alpha Flight that WASN”T involving the X-men in some way. ANYTHING. You can’t do it, because it hasn’t happened, except maybe Northstar coming out (more notable as a gimmick more than anything, though. Why? Because no one read Alpha Flight at the time and they were desperate for press.) At the time, though, I couldn’t help but wonder: When Northstar announced he was gay, did he mean Gay/homosexual or Gay/lame? If it was the latter, I was like, duh, he’s in Alpha Flight…
Also
by Joenathan
Jul 17th, 2008
03:04:15 PM
Ending their existance? Are you new to comics? Since when has any character EVER stayed dead? Come on, dude.
Joenathan: don
by The Octagoner
Jul 17th, 2008
10:30:23 PM
Joenathan: don't be ridiculous
by The Octagoner
Jul 17th, 2008
10:39:52 PM
I could beat you to death with my balls.

I live in the octagon.

You are the pock-marked fatboy, my bitch, not I. And you know it. All I have to do is roll over and squeeze my hot-ass wife's ass while she sleeps and I type this, and the reality of the world seems pretty fucking clear.

To your rebuttals: how about this, dicksuck-- I PUT TO YOU that anybody looking for 'comic reviews' will get them here, and pretty intelligently. Anybody looking for BRAND NEW comic reviews will quickly learn to go to CBR or Newsarama. It's just not a cogent explanation for why you're dirtying up the airwaves with your whah-whahing. It's like me walking in Baskin-Robbins and complaining because they don't have oatmeal.

What IS a cogent explanation? Glad you asked: you, limp dick virgin that you are, needing to make people (somebody, ANYbody) acknowledge your existence-- while also struggling to reinforce the ego which gets torn down every time you encounter other people your own age --mouthing off about shit about which you remain ignorant. Am I close? I know I am.

BMBendis will not remember you for defending him. BMBendis just wants your money, and he's willing to recycle as many '90s TV shows as it takes till he gets it.

Joenathan-- Bendis isn't your father
by The Octagoner
Jul 17th, 2008
10:45:21 PM
He's not going to love you and tell you you're 'a man.' Nobody is going to do that. Blame your mother for not knowing which member of the gang-bang spawned you. Don't blame comic fans.

That surrogate father you're looking for? It's not Bendis.

Alpha Flight
by Bluejack
Jul 18th, 2008
08:55:11 AM
Byrne produced some sweet comics during his Alpha Flight run. The "white" cover with a mostly Snowbird issue (she looks great in the recent Herc issues). Guardian getting waxed in issue 12. Puck was cool for a while. I really enjoyed that book.
Alpha Flight, good times..then less so
by Homer Sexual
Jul 18th, 2008
11:25:09 AM
I am so very old that I read the original issues of Alpha Flight and they were, indeed, the bomb. John Byrne was at his peak. #12 was just an outstanding comic I can remember so clearly all these years later.

Unfortunately (inevitably?) it went into decline. The whole "Northstar is gay" thing went on forever, it was definitely not a gimmick, it was actually groundbreaking (except that not so many people were reading at that point). Then, in one of the most F'ed up moves ever in a comic, Northstar was finally outed as....an elf! No, not a homo! Can't have one of them in a comic...elves, however...yes! God, that was gay in a lame way, rather than in a homosexual way (which would have been good)

Octagoner - According to my Mother, Bendis IS my father
by Joenathan
Jul 18th, 2008
11:57:13 AM
Also, I find your claims of virility somewhat suspect and your regular mentioning of male genitalia only makes it more... strange... peculiar... Your B&R metaphor is weak and has no correlation to what I was saying. Spend some time figuring out why. As for Alpha Flight, I see that no one, NO ONE, can come up with anything except vague references to some retard character MAYBE having been cool at some point. This is because Alpha Flight has never been important or interesting and Wolverine was the best thing that ever happened to their lame asses. Now, I agree Northstar's outing WAS groundbreaking, but only tangentially because it was intended at a gimmick.
Alpha Flight Redux
by Bluejack
Jul 20th, 2008
08:46:06 PM
Joenathan. Were you alive when Alpha Flight came out? Shaman, Snowbird, Guardian, Puck, Sasquatch, eventually Talisman were mainstream Marvel characters. It was a top selling team book with great art and solid story telling. Byrne was at the top of his game and the art and layouts were cutting edge back then. Comics have come a long way since then. It's a solid teir 2-3 team that had a fantastic run and then crapped out like many team books do.
And another thing...
by Bluejack
Jul 20th, 2008
08:48:04 PM
Northstar was still gay after he was ouyted as an elf. Then he was just another gay elf. Sadly, I will never get those few minutes of life back I just spent defending the honor of Alpha Flight. Next I'll have to defend Suicide Squad.
Next Bracket
by Bluejack
Jul 20th, 2008
08:50:32 PM
How about a team versus team bracket to follow up ultimate kick-assery tournament? Avengers v. JLA v. JSA (with a limit, those fuckers are like bunnies)v. Defenders etc. etc. Then Joenathan could write Alpha Flight getting their asses kicked by the Runaways.
Bluejack
by Homer Sexual
Jul 21st, 2008
12:08:51 PM
Hey, hey...I was also here defending Alpha Flight. But I clearly remember a loong development of homo Northstar, culminating with his outing as an elf. He may have been retro-gayed, but at the time Marvel definitely wussed out.

I can't believe you mentioned Suicide Squad as well, because Ostrander's run on Suicide Squad remains, to this day,my all time favorite ongoing series. Kudos to Ostrander for making characters like Lashina, Punch and Jewelee and more very very interesting.

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Jul 22nd, 2008
12:56:57 AM
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Jul 22nd, 2008
12:57:22 AM
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Jul 22nd, 2008
12:57:47 AM
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Jul 22nd, 2008
12:58:17 AM
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Jul 22nd, 2008
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Jul 22nd, 2008
12:59:33 AM
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Suicide Squad
by Bluejack
Jul 22nd, 2008
07:16:54 PM
I loved when the Squad went to Apokalips. The arcs involving Middle Eastern super-humans...the whole damn series was way ahead of it's time. Thunderbolts before they were Thunderbolts.
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