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First?
by Rebeck2
Jul 16th, 2008
01:05:39 AM
Who, me?
The remake was good until the last 5-10 minutes.
by The Guy Who Slept Through Everything.
Jul 16th, 2008
01:09:09 AM
Then it completely ruined the film for me, fucked it up something great.
great film
by ddog
Jul 16th, 2008
01:20:36 AM
iv always loved this fillm and cant see how anyone cant. props to quint 4 actually keeping up with the movie a day column. question: how many films do you have to finish? or will you keep purchasing new films you have not seen? its impressive
Are you ready for the summer?
by aint_it_cruel?
Jul 16th, 2008
01:33:31 AM
Are you ready for the Sunshine?
not available
by aint_it_cruel?
Jul 16th, 2008
01:46:40 AM
thru netflix. (and happy 44th aniv. Q!)
The remake was good until the second half
by PacmanFever
Jul 16th, 2008
01:48:26 AM
Law couldn't pull off anything required of him after the key event in the film, and to be fair he did also have to grapple with some terrible dialogue
Michael Caine is the English Samuel L. Jackson
by heavenlykid
Jul 16th, 2008
01:50:01 AM
And for what it's worth, Joan Allen is the female Samuel L. Jackson (I'm basing this on the fact that I saw 'the Bourne Supremacy' this week).
Remake
by tom_joad
Jul 16th, 2008
01:54:30 AM
I thought the remake was horrific, the direction by Brannagh is so bad, he made a very poor choice in using surveillance cameras. It was annoying and totally unnecessary. The second half or the changes to the script by Pinter was also very disappointing, a sudden change in character which was also very odd. So don't watch it Quint, it will just break your heart.
Superb movie
by The_Skook
Jul 16th, 2008
02:08:40 AM
The Caine/Olivier 'Sleuth' is fantastic. Two great actors just brilliant on screen together. 'Frenzy' today eh Quint? That is one dark movie!
A JUMPED UP PANTRY-BOY
by BenBraddock
Jul 16th, 2008
02:56:31 AM
WHO NEVER KNEW HIS PLACE!!!
Frenzy actually shocked me
by BenBraddock
Jul 16th, 2008
03:03:25 AM
It aint yer Hollywood-Technicolor- glamorama-Hitchcock, there is one scene in particular in there unlike anything in any previous Hitch movie. VERY black comedy, great late addition to a list of Hitch classics.
Fantastic movie, the worst sound ever. & Quint...
by half vader
Jul 16th, 2008
03:24:59 AM
My DVD copy is a few years old but I think that's the only one available, and while I was overjoyed to finally have it, the sound is the worst fucking quality I've ever heard. Like they recorded EVERYTHING on that recorder, not just Larry's bit.

Quint, hope you like the KoH director's cut. It's so infinitely superior to the emasculated theatrical release. People were a bit unfair to Legless er, Legolas in the original. Of course it was a one-note performance - the motivation and revealing parts had been cut out and that's what informs his demeanor and reactions throughout the film! His history, all reason for his military skill, his relationship with his arsehole brother, all chopped. Same with Eva Green's character. Fuck those suits and their 'honouring the contract' by releasing this cut at only 1 cinema for 1 week. It serves them right that their abomination didn't make money. Watch it on HD if you can. Fucking gorgeous.

Ah, those were the days ...
by No Respectable Gentleman
Jul 16th, 2008
03:45:14 AM
A screenplay that's simultaneously shrewd, witty, literate,and deviously plotted. Who could possibly write such a thing these days?
You didn't mention Alec Cawthorne as Inspector Doppler......
by Riley Martin
Jul 16th, 2008
04:17:19 AM
Stellar performance in Act II
to be fair, Michael Caine
by Napoleon Park
Jul 16th, 2008
04:43:29 AM
has made some awesomely bad movies in his career. But I never saw a Michael Caine movie in which I didn't like Michael Caine. Hell, I'll even include "Goldmember" in that statement, if only for the clever use of old footage for the flashback scene.
MEATBALLS
by caruso_stalker217
Jul 16th, 2008
04:57:52 AM
The film that proved to me that there are Canadians that actually pronounce it "aboot." I'd figured that was just an exaggeration.
Also...
by caruso_stalker217
Jul 16th, 2008
04:58:39 AM
MEATBALLS is pretty good.
"Joan Allen is the female Samuel L. Jackson "
by Grammaton Cleric Binks
Jul 16th, 2008
06:38:23 AM
Never noticed that before, but you're right. I mean she's the warden in the upcoming Death Race. She doesn't play gentle ladies. I saw Upside of Anger. The movie sucked, but again it was a good role for Allen.
Law is like a young Terrance Stamp in the remake
by Drath
Jul 16th, 2008
07:09:59 AM
He's doesn't try at all to be the same Milo that Caine played. He's a little too steely for that anyway. If anything the movie made me want to see him play opposite Stamp sometime. Caine plays the Olivier role differently as well in the remake. He's colder, more menacing, a bit like a cockney gangster really. He'd have scared the shit out of Olivier's character probably. In fact he's kind of the scary guy that Milo turns into at the end of the original, only now he's used to getting his own way. The remake lacks the charm and camp of the original though. The set was a neat character in the original, but in the remake it's very minmal. It's still a character, but not nearly as much fun to be in. Also the remake goes for a homosexual theme, (big surprise, it's all the rage now), and it's kind of in love with funny camera angles. I think it loses the simply joy of the game that the original had.
Whoops, I mean Terrence Stamp
by Drath
Jul 16th, 2008
07:11:03 AM
Dangit.
Caine also re-made Get Carter with Stallone
by Grammaton Cleric Binks
Jul 16th, 2008
08:16:19 AM
Stallone played the Caine role, which surprises me that Caine agreed to be in it. That again this is the same guy who did Jaws IV. However, as Caine put it (paraphasing)"I hear it's a terrible movie, I've never seen it, but I've seen the house it bought, and it's quite lovely." I respect that. How many of us have done jobs, not because it was out dream job, but to provide for our family. Michael Madsen said the same thing in an inteview a few years ago. They can't all be Free Willy and Reservoir Dogs.
What happened to Jude Law, anyway?
by Knuckleduster
Jul 16th, 2008
08:47:32 AM
There was a time when he was great. Gattaca, Road to Perdition, The Talented Mister Ripley. I also liked him in Cold Mountain and Breaking and Entering. Where is he now? Off banging the nanny again?
No mention and no Oscar nomination
by skimn
Jul 16th, 2008
08:59:49 AM
for the legendary production designer Ken Adam who worked on this film. BTW, skip the remake at all costs. It muddies the plot with a homosexual angle, and makes the final scene ridiculous.
Has anyone updated about The Perfect Game?
by ArcadianDS
Jul 16th, 2008
09:11:08 AM
just stumbled upon a trailer site for what might a very excellent baseball movie. Bad News Bears meets The Natural: http://www.theperfectgamemovie .com/

Im sure its old news now, but i just found it. looks very good.

I heart this movie
by the beef
Jul 16th, 2008
09:14:00 AM
It hearts me back. I think Mankiewicz gets overlooked as a great director, and writer. The man's got a solid body of work with some undeniably great films, like ALL ABOUT EVE and this film. I'm curious to see what Quint thinks about FRENZY. When I first saw it it wasn't what I'd expected from Hitchcock, in a good way.
I'm sure Quint will love Frenzy
by skimn
Jul 16th, 2008
10:10:44 AM
I didn't care for Hitchcock's late sixties films, but this was a great return for him. Love the "ka-thump ka-thump ka-thump" at the end.
SoylentMean
by the beef
Jul 16th, 2008
10:11:19 AM
It probably shares more in common with something like The Prestige. It's a battle of wits type of film and not really a whodunit.
And Clue isn't fit to wipe
by skimn
Jul 16th, 2008
10:15:47 AM
Sleuth's ass. Some find it funny, but I found it shrill and a waste of a talented cast.
Fuck you skimm, CLUE is great
by Tacom
Jul 16th, 2008
10:45:55 AM
And it made great use of it's cast, especially Tim Curry.
Netflix
by BobParr
Jul 16th, 2008
11:07:25 AM
This version is not available on Netflix.
Ironically this just played yesterday afternoon
by skimn
Jul 16th, 2008
11:15:07 AM
on TCM, and is scheduled again on August first, so fire up those DVR's.
Deathtrap is actually the perfect double feature flick
by Liberty Valance
Jul 16th, 2008
12:40:11 PM
Caine in another twisty mindbender from Sidney Lumet, no less. It's no Sleuth, but it's a fun flick.
I was waiting for someone to mention Reeve
by Grammaton Cleric Binks
Jul 16th, 2008
12:58:43 PM
and Caine. Don't spoil it for those not in the know.
Liberty....
by Gunslinger1919
Jul 16th, 2008
01:02:07 PM
Yup...I was just going to say the same thing. Deathtrap and Sleuth go together perfectly. So very many games being played by the characters in both. And the way each plays and manipulates the audience (in a good way) is wonderful. Though, I do suggest seeing both on the stage. They're best there. And if you ever get a chance, read some of Ira Levin's earlier thrillers that led up to Deathtrap....totally creepy... --G
Kingdom Of Heaven...
by Hooded Justice
Jul 16th, 2008
01:19:15 PM
Can't wait to hear what you think of the Director's cut. Will be waiting in the wings.
skimm
by vaterite
Jul 16th, 2008
03:30:06 PM
Yeah, I've watched it at least twice on TCM this past year, it keeps showing up and I keep getting sucked in.
Deathtrap was da Bomb
by kevinwillis.net
Jul 16th, 2008
04:11:59 PM
I really enjoyed that movie. In all fairness, I've only seen snippets of Slueth, so if it's the superior Caine-Cat-and-Mouse-Whodunnit, I might be disappointed by Deathtrap, now.
Law as Caine
by Bass Ackwards
Jul 16th, 2008
04:45:59 PM
Never saw theSleuth remake, but, I'm one if the few who loved the Alfie remake. Slickly directed with a fun score by Jagger and a verycharismatic Law breezing through the whole thing. The original was so light that it was probably an easier remake, and I think some of the subtle changes the remake made provide for some sly commentary. Anyways, too bad to hear the Sleuth remake doesn't fair as well, I'd looked forward to renting it, Branaugh has shown some strong directorial skills in the past, and Pinter, Caine, and Law just sounded great. Oh well.
Caine a favorite since
by zacUpquark
Jul 16th, 2008
05:42:58 PM
I was 11 when this came out, so stuff went over my head (and I was TOTALLY fooled) but I remember those two just holding me spellbound with their spectacular dialogue. Saw it on stage at the Old Globe in San Diego, and although almost word-for-word the same, it was NOT the same, because it was NOT Larry and Mike.
This was on the other night . . .
by SkidMarkedUndies
Jul 16th, 2008
07:07:54 PM
I think it was AMC. What a great film. Very well done Quint. Good pick-up.
Yes, Deathtrap is not to be missed
by Drath
Jul 16th, 2008
08:09:53 PM
Christopher Reeve must have been dismissed as campy for playing a gay character, but frankly I thought he displayed a lot of range and at times his presence was down right scary. He was totally unlike what I expected from him after Superman. Kind of amazing to me that he wasn't a bigger star, but I guess there's a lot that goes into that kind of thing and it's not all just talent. Anyway, yeah, I'd totally watch that with Sleuth before the remake. Why is Clue even being mentioned? It's a comedy! And given the caliber of most whodunit comedies from the 80s (Haunted Honeymoon, The Private Eyes, Charlie Chan and the Curse of the Dragon Queen), it was a damn good one.
Watch when Olivier sweeps stuff off a table...
by darthliquidator
Jul 16th, 2008
10:20:16 PM
....while deliberately trashing the house (as part of his many schemes)Olivier sweeps his hand across a table full of bric-a-brack...he actually seriously cuts his hand...and keeps right on going with the scene.
TMC
by Larry of Arabia
Jul 16th, 2008
10:23:18 PM
I caught it on TMC a little while ago. The great thing about it is once you know the ending you can go back and just enjoy the way the characters interact and mess with eachother, then smile knowing what's to come. It's timeless.
at least the Sleuth remake
by half vader
Jul 16th, 2008
11:04:20 PM
tried a twist on the original and tried to offer something more than a straight copy. Even if it did suck.

You guys complain remakes are redundant on every TB when they ape the original. I agree, if the original was so good they're re-doing it then just re-release the damn thing. However, when a remake tries a different spin TBers complain that it's 'not the same' and 'they changed what was so good'. Well, which IS it then? You can't have it both ways.

The other thing is that even if they tried to add a different angle and failed, there's always the original, and a remake or crappy sequel does NOT somehow 'ruin' the original. Star Wars excepted, the original is still the same and as good as it ever was. I just don't get that argument. If you can't get the remake or sequel out of your head while watching the original it's not the FILM'S problem, it's yours.

Sorry for the caps BTW. It was just supposed to sound mildly annoyed, not like a bloody lecture. They're supposed to be italics, but this IS the most prehistoric TB of all time. I just hate how not one of the AICN team will even acknowledge it, or the edit function.

P.S. I was looking for my copy of Sleuth, and now I can't find it! Faark - I hope I didn't lend it to someone...

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