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by Duke of Hurl
Jul 16th, 2008
12:38:32 AM
if it ain't broke
by Duke of Hurl
Jul 16th, 2008
12:39:23 AM
don't fix it
Roman Numerals?
by The Guy Who Slept Through Everything.
Jul 16th, 2008
12:47:42 AM
Not diggin it.
Sorry, off topic, but Hellboy II was not very good
by Speed Fricassee
Jul 16th, 2008
12:48:49 AM
And Tropic Thunder rocks. Cool.
Justin Theroux
by Series7
Jul 16th, 2008
12:50:22 AM
Sure why not. Did anyone write the first one? I thought they just came up with set pieces and pointed the camera a RDJ? And then tossed tons of money to Stan Winston's Company. Maybe they should worry about who's going to score the next one, I didn't dig the whole No Country no music feel of the first one...oh wait there was music? Well maybe it'll be more memorable next time, fucking wasted use of the easiest theme song choice ever.
Hellboy II Was Great
by Duke of Hurl
Jul 16th, 2008
12:50:45 AM
Back on topic: Actors as Screenwriters FTW!
TDK will sleep with you and make you breakfast in the AM.
by The Guy Who Slept Through Everything.
Jul 16th, 2008
12:51:09 AM
Iron Man 3
by Etrigan_
Jul 16th, 2008
12:56:40 AM
...will be directed by Joel Shumacher. Nipples on Iron Man. You know it to be true...
Hellboy 2 owned and Iron Man too...
by spectrebeeyatch
Jul 16th, 2008
01:03:53 AM
Even though the fights and battles in Iron Man were meh. Hopefully they work on that for part 2.
Monica Bellucci as Madame Masque?
by Duke of Hurl
Jul 16th, 2008
01:17:00 AM
Any word on the villain? I say fuck the Fu Manchu stereotype, go Mandarin.
Chow Yun-Fat as the Mandarin
by Duke of Hurl
Jul 16th, 2008
01:20:48 AM
THIS IS THE GIRL
by Zeke25:17
Jul 16th, 2008
01:23:07 AM
You'll see me one more time, if you do good...and two more times, if you do bad. Good night.
Drew Carey is MODOK
by Duke of Hurl
Jul 16th, 2008
01:29:54 AM
THIS COULD BE REALLY GOOD...
by The Marquis de Side 3
Jul 16th, 2008
01:36:23 AM
we haven't seen "TROPIC THUNDER" yet, and the most important thing about the Iron Man stories is its fun and accessibility to audiences. Oh, and just because you wrote what promises to be a successful comedy doesn't mean you can't write a good action film.
Why punish the winners Bacci?
by blindambition238
Jul 16th, 2008
02:11:35 AM
Watchmen
by Duke of Hurl
Jul 16th, 2008
02:15:43 AM
Linkage?
I've always enjoyed Theroux as an actor
by IndustryKiller!
Jul 16th, 2008
02:48:40 AM
And felt he was really very underutilized. But then again he's talented and doesn't come off like an obnoxious twat, so it makes sense Hollywood wouldn't know what the fuck to do with him.
Series7
by kwisatzhaderach
Jul 16th, 2008
03:39:32 AM
Totally agree, the script for Iron Man was lame.
Can Theroux write?
by odo19
Jul 16th, 2008
03:44:49 AM
I like him as an actor. I thought he was the best thing about Mulholland Drive........well other than Laura Elena Harring's tits. I've never seen anything he's written though. Oh and Hellboy 2 did rock. Easily the most entertaining film of the year. Absolutely amazing.
If its not broke dont fix it.
by wowsah156
Jul 16th, 2008
03:50:00 AM
If its not broke dont fix it.
by wowsah156
Jul 16th, 2008
03:50:02 AM
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by wowsah156
Jul 16th, 2008
03:50:30 AM
Keep the same writer from the first movie.
Can Theroux bring Nick Fury as Mel Gibson....?
by Monkey_King
Jul 16th, 2008
03:57:58 AM
and digitally remove Sam Jackson from the first film?
It Might Be Heavily Rewritten...
by TroutMaskReplicant
Jul 16th, 2008
04:04:56 AM
Mentioning the first guy who gets a whack at the script is jumping the gun ever so slightly. Remember Andrew Kevin Walker's discarded X-Men script. And Michael Chabon wrote a treatment for X-Men and wrote a draft of Spiderman 2. If this thing is going to be ready for filming, at least half a dozen screenwriters will be crawling all over it.
Also What's Wrong With A Chinese Villain...?
by TroutMaskReplicant
Jul 16th, 2008
04:11:17 AM
China is so much a part of the Zeitgeist at the moment. The only problem with a Chinese bad guy is if he's a lame stereotype. I imagine they might downplay the whole aliens/supernatural angle to him though and might not directly call him The Mandarin. He'd probably be more like a Chinese Norman Osborn, a business rival to Stark that has some dark secrets and darker schemes.
HE MUST HAVE MET THE COWBOY
by HowieMandela
Jul 16th, 2008
04:55:11 AM
AND DID WHAT HE SAID. BECAUSE THEROUX'S CAREER'S IS REALLY TAKING OFF.
Were Talking about the same dude that was in Charlies Angels and
by MRJONZ72
Jul 16th, 2008
06:48:57 AM
I didnt even now he was writing stuff
Last subject heading got cut off
by MRJONZ72
Jul 16th, 2008
06:54:25 AM
I was trying to say Charlies Angles and American Pyscho..Funny thing I remember back in 03 when I reached the American Psycho for the 3rd time. I said to myself, you know Christian Bale could be a very good Batman/Bruce Wayne or Harvey Dent...I might able to see Justin T. as the Joker and possibly Josh Lucas as Harvey Dent - Just based on the various movies or in Justin T's mostly TV work I have seen.
Hellboy II is excellent.
by Imagikafan
Jul 16th, 2008
06:56:35 AM
On topic: I'll decide if this is good news after I see tropic Thunder.
TroutMaskReplicant
by MRJONZ72
Jul 16th, 2008
06:56:51 AM
I never realized that Andrew Kevin Walker wrote a draft for Spiderman, I would like to read that.. I will have to see if I can find it.
What's with the the Friskies commerical?!?!
by indyjonez100
Jul 16th, 2008
07:06:10 AM
I'm not a middle age single woman with 30 cats so why do they think any one on this site would be REMOTELY interested in cat food. They completely missed the mark on where that commercial should be aired. Perhaps the iVillage site but not aintitcoolnews. Come on.
Theroux is always fun to watch.
by Knuckleduster
Jul 16th, 2008
07:06:41 AM
Loved him in the Lynch movies. Hey, wasn't he in Sex and the City for a while?
Justin T
by 66613
Jul 16th, 2008
08:06:36 AM
That guy kicks ass. Hardly any cool new actors out there, but He's one of the best. Wish I could see more of him. You can keep Charlies Angels tho
MRJONZ72
by TroutMaskReplicant
Jul 16th, 2008
08:16:05 AM
It's freely available - http://tinyurl.com/6o57sc I never got very far in it though, it wasn't much fun to read.
if it's as good as Dedication
by alansmitheepodcast
Jul 16th, 2008
08:16:28 AM
it'll be a fantastic suckfest
No wait that one is fucked.
by TroutMaskReplicant
Jul 16th, 2008
08:17:13 AM
The formatting is all over the place. Let me see if I can find a better one.
Theroux Rules!
by Montag666
Jul 16th, 2008
08:19:04 AM
I didn't know he was a writer! He's great in everything I've seen him in. Six Feet Under, Mulholland Drive, and he was even great as John Hancock in the John Adams miniseries: "I am a businessman strangled by monopoly! Shame on you sir!"
Iron Man will be forgotten after DK
by Judge Briggs
Jul 16th, 2008
08:21:31 AM
It's true
MRJONZ72
by TroutMaskReplicant
Jul 16th, 2008
08:25:39 AM
Yeah, I dunno whether it appears wrong to you but it comes up shit when I look at it. I have a version saved in my archive anyway, which works. If you want to give me your email in a way that won't have you spammed senseless I'll send it on.
who?
by spidercoz
Jul 16th, 2008
08:27:17 AM
the guy doesn't look like he could write his fucking name. nice hat, dipshit.
Awesome
by DeadPanWalking
Jul 16th, 2008
08:29:46 AM
Justin Theroux has yet to disappoint as an actor or a screenwriter. He's one of the most underrated figures in Hollywood. This should be good.
Worst Idea Ever - Get Somone Good Instead
by StealthGeek01
Jul 16th, 2008
08:40:57 AM
How to ruin a franchise in one easy lesson: 1. Hire Justin Theroux
Justine Theroux?
by spud mcspud
Jul 16th, 2008
09:03:48 AM
Owner of the worst Irish accent EVER to grace the movies in CHARLIE'S ANGEL 2: DEMI'S HOT? Wasn't he the dude who completely trashed a hotel room suite in the music video for Muse's "Hysteria"? He's one intense guy, and I'd love to see him do a seriously dramatic role. Fuck it, fire Bale and make him the new Bruce Wayne.

But as a screenwriter? Fuck it, why not? He can't be any worse than some of the shitheels out there. I mean, fuck, Akiva Goldfinger is still employed!?!?!

Hellboy 2, not as good as i'd hoped.
by Gatsbys West Egg Omlet
Jul 16th, 2008
09:34:08 AM
damn shame. that karaoke/beer scene want on and on, way too many baby references, and the team's internal drama was just wasted.

evil Elric stole the show.

again i say, damn shame.

So, they're going deeper into "comedic" nonsense?
by SpencerTrilby
Jul 16th, 2008
09:51:21 AM
The lame tone of the first one was depressing enough, now they hire Theroux fresh from Tropic Thunder?

I dig him as an actor, but that news does nothing to allay my fears the sequel will be another shitfest of lazy cynicism and poor slapstick trying to hide the shallow character development and lack of meaningful plot. I'm eager to give him a chance because it's Justin Fuckin' Theroux, but the same indulgence applied to Favreau spawned a real moronic movie masquerading as a quality project, so... Been fooled before.

I really hated Iron Man and I'm not sure how I feel about Tropic
by fassbinder79
Jul 16th, 2008
10:01:53 AM
But Theroux is a nice guy (met him once at a screening for Inland Empire in NYC) and he is a very talented writer. I think he'll probably write an inventive script for Iron Man 2. But as good as the script might be...That won't make Favreu a better director.
SpencerTrilby
by fassbinder79
Jul 16th, 2008
10:04:36 AM
I agree with you. Iron Man was a major disappointment. It should have been darker in my opinion. Honestly I think I would have rather seen Danny DeVito or Brian DePalma direct it rather than JV. The effects were terrible and the story and tone was too campy to be taken seriously. As a huge fan of the comic book it was a MAJOR letdown.
Those are odd choices, fassbinder79^^
by SpencerTrilby
Jul 16th, 2008
10:35:27 AM
but yeah, I was left completely in awe as the end credits rolled... How such a silly, uninspired movie could be the flavor of the month and "a step in the right direction" as so many observers said when it comes to comics-to-film adaptations?? The plot was paperthin, the acting hammy as hell (with comedians "ad-libbing" all at the same time to hide the poor level of the dialogue, making the whole thing a true ear-raping "performance" a la Lethal Weapon 3) and the action scenes totally uninspired (the evasion) if not derivative (the final fight is RoboCop 2 without the badassness) or even insulting to the intelligence (the "no-fly zone" bullshit - as if a military contractor doubled with a fucking state of the art AI couldn't avoid the pseudo-dogfight...) but oh-so convenient to muscle up the trailers and lure in people with bogus set pieces.

What really upsets me is the bullshit posture of the promoters, who spent months and doughs trying to butter up the fans with their so-called "ambitions" (citing Verhoeven, Clancy and Cameron as major influences) when the end product is just another dickless, sub-par flick whose only redeeming value to the audience is Downey channeling Jack Sparrow. How lazy is that? I could spend a few more words stating how they got Stark completely off the mark (from the driven, big-mouthed idealist saying what others hardly dare to think to a cheap cynical prick people love to hate without even questionning his choices) with their I-can't-believe-they-wrote-THA T "change of heart" plot device - a worthy rival to the whole "bad guy's harmed by ICE" when it comes to the most childishly stupid writing in this film - but I digress. I truly hated the posturing of the filmmakers as well as the end product. I cannot believe so many people (among them some fellow talkbackers - a bunch of whom I thought were able do detect shit when they were served some) praise this trash as being "clever" or even "faithful". Puzzling.

TroutMaskReplicant
by MRJONZ72
Jul 16th, 2008
10:44:19 AM
Yeah I tried reading the script at the link you sent..but like you said...the format is all over the place..but yeah if you can mrjonz72@gmail.com. thanks.
SpencerTrilby
by fassbinder79
Jul 16th, 2008
10:46:23 AM
Once again I agree with your post. I mentioned Depalma and DeVito because in my opinion DD proved with Hoffa that he could tell a good story without it primarily being a dark comedy. And his films like Roses and Smoochy show that he could have handled Stark's twisted sense of humor. DePalma in my opinion is a virtuoso with the camera and when it comes to suspense. I think he needs a big studio film right now and this might be the project to bring him back. He made a comeback with Untouchables and yet another with Mission Impossible. I think he is more than capable of taking on a comic book franchise. My first choice for most Hollywood fare is almost always Paul Verhoeven who blew me away yet again with Black Book. I think he should have been directing Iron Man and G.I. Joe.
PS
by fassbinder79
Jul 16th, 2008
10:50:04 AM
I also think that Cuaron is a great go to director for many of these tentpole summer films.
What the hell? Iron Man bashing?!?
by Acappellaman
Jul 16th, 2008
10:54:41 AM
I sincerely hope those of you who are trashing Iron Man are just joking. Iron Man was one of the best Comic Book movies ever released. Granted, I've ready very little of the comic book, but I read enough to know the origin of Iron Man well enough. I though Favreau did a fantastic job directing Iron Man, and I'm glad to see he's back. SpencerTrilby and fassbinder, you're both high as kites.
Well, that's just like, my opinion (Acappella)man!
by SpencerTrilby
Jul 16th, 2008
11:04:00 AM
and to fassbinder79: I still think your choices are a bit too odd for my taste, albeit I agree that DePalma did a good mainstream job with Mission: Impossible. I'm not sure he'd be interested in high tech gear, though.

Good call on Verhoeven, I'd add James Cameron to the wish list but, I mean, who wouldn't?

Who cares?
by Geekhaterssuck
Jul 16th, 2008
11:16:29 AM
Yeah I'd love to see the first guy back on but Marvel Studios I think has proven it knows has to handle its properties, at least with the first two movies. Iron Man was brillant, Incredible Hulk did have some flaws but it was a hell of a lot better than that 2003 dreck Ang Lee released. Time will tell if that trend continues but I don't think this is anything to be to worried over.
Hellboy II Box Office: $38m Opening Weekend
by kevinwillis.net
Jul 16th, 2008
11:27:22 AM
Not bad. Original opening weekend was $23,172,440 . . . worldwide gross was $99m for the original. I think Hellboy II is going to best that. So we probably will get a Hellboy III.
AM I THE ONLY ONE THAT REALIZES TROPIC THUNDER...
by ironically
Jul 16th, 2008
11:47:09 AM
is a THREE AMIGOS ripoff, not judging, just saying.
NOW THERE ARE TWO OF US, IRONICALLY
by g-ride9000
Jul 16th, 2008
12:05:22 PM
But this will not have the amigo dance that ends with the thrust.
Diablo Cody also negotiating to write IM2
by fat lenny
Jul 16th, 2008
12:40:50 PM
Honest to... aw fuck it.
So, I'm guessing...
by Strange Interlude
Jul 16th, 2008
01:12:38 PM
...given that we've got the Tropic Thunder guy on this, that Downey will be replacing Terence Howard as Jim Rhodes?
wasn't he in American Psycho and Inland Empire?
by The Dum Guy
Jul 16th, 2008
02:05:49 PM
I think they should somehow incorporate those two movies (thematically) with the Iron Man sequel... Tony battles inner demons while trying to catch a psychotic evil doer, all the while hallucinating on shrooms.
SpencerTrilby
by Duke of Hurl
Jul 16th, 2008
03:03:48 PM
The "posturing of the filmmakers" you speak of comes off as pseudo film school snarkery. From what I observed, the filmmakers (Favreau, Libatique, Downey, Winston et al) were all out to make a fun movie. I had fun watching it. You confuse the filmmakers with the industry marketing machine that makes sure these movies are screened.
"The widely acclaimed"?
by Aeghast
Jul 16th, 2008
03:25:32 PM
Really? Where..? I'm curious (and sarcasm-free)
Duke of Hurl
by fassbinder79
Jul 16th, 2008
05:24:19 PM
I think Theroux will probably write a halfway decent script for Iron Man 2. But Favreau sucks as a director and I had about as much fun watching Iron Man as I did as a kid seeing Mac And Me. Not very much. It was a film study in how to impressively use product placement. Nothing more...Nothing less. Dark Knight will be what comic book films SHOULD be about.
You Didn't Like Mac And Me?
by Duke of Hurl
Jul 16th, 2008
07:25:54 PM
for Theroux, who previously made his mark....
by chiefpapa
Jul 16th, 2008
07:45:13 PM
....as an actor in projects like "Mulholland Dr" "Six Feet Under"....."Zoolander" and "Charlie's Angels 2". Don't ever forget the last two, they're classics!
Spencer Trilby
by Goldfingah
Jul 16th, 2008
09:43:33 PM
It was fair enough to say you didn't like Iron Man, even better for you to cite the reasons why and best of all for you to nail one of the best Jeff Bridges references in the history of his career in defense of your opinion. However, you still clearly suffer from the malaise of many talkbackers which is basically your inability to tolerate dissent. Should we, the people who enjoyed Iron Man, get down on our knees and apologize to you, o encyclopedia of everything that is Tony Stark, because we had a good time? Should we flagellate ourselves because thanks to our patronage, you looked like an complete asshole for predicting this movie would tank? Your resentment of this movie clearly comes from a deep respect/love (choose your word or come up with your own if there's a better term for it) of the character and being a comic-book fan I get that, but why don't you just stop at giving people your opinion which they have the option to take or leave, instead of telling us we're idiots for not agreeing with it? Just a thought.
p.s.
by Duke of Hurl
Jul 17th, 2008
02:24:41 AM
Downey Jr. was a great Tony Stark. If you actually read Iron Man, that is.
Goldfingah
by SpencerTrilby
Jul 17th, 2008
01:24:24 PM
Sorry if you misread my comments as a kneejerk reaction to those who liked it. It was never my intent, but maybe the unfathomable hypocrisy of some fanboys I had to deal with on here when the film was relesaed took its toll on me. Anyway, I'm not the kind to diss others' tastes. I just thought it was a trashy movie, to each his own.
Duke of Hurl
by SpencerTrilby
Jul 17th, 2008
01:42:20 PM
Downey was off for one reason: he played it clownish and cynical. And Stark is many things, but not a cynical clown. More like a driven guy who doesn't take shit from anyone (and certainly not a mechanical arm) - but to portray this, they should've dropped the kiddie tone and build a real spy story, some kind of ballsy and mature political thriller just like the best comics do. They chose to give up in favor of a cardboard characterization (the "change of heart" thing) of a jackass who mellows at the end to please the audience.

In this day and age, it would be much more ballsy (and that comes from a liberal) as well as faithful to the source to show Stark as in the comics: the ptriotic guy ready to take shit from the holier-than-thou because he believes that his weapons can make a change. Instead, he choose to drop the business altogether because being anti-war (no matter *which war* it is) is much more popular. I expected some balls from the filmmakers, like a non-cynical Lord Of War or RoboCop but they chose to take the easy path of the "hero you'll love to hate" whose actions are not to be questioned at the end of the day.

Besides, between his bogus MySpace page and his constant buttering up of the fans, citing RoboCop or Tom Clancy, Favreau ended up as a blowhard hack to my eyes since his end product bears no similarities to the holy examples he kept bragging about. No one can seriously compare Verhoeven's visionary tale to Favreau's childish action-comedy.

If you liked it, more power to you. I respect that and like my previous post said I'm not questionning others' tastes. Personal, ad hominem attacks never bring anything new to the table.

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