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NEW UPDATE 1:40 PM CST USA!! So, SUPERMAN Has Now Been Offered To A Director Who Isn't Bryan Singer??

Fred by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar	Jul 10th, 2008 09:03:32 AM

who cares by Uridium	Jul 10th, 2008 09:04:47 AM
I saw the last superman, totally killed the franchise.
Superman Needs new Director by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar	Jul 10th, 2008 09:05:55 AM
Singer Jumped the kyptonite canyon on last movie
FUCK THIS SHIT! by HoboCode	Jul 10th, 2008 09:06:04 AM
Why can't you stupid cunts see how great Superman Returns and Ang Lee's Hulk are? Shit begets shit.
So is he now the go-to guy to salvage franchises? by tonagan	Jul 10th, 2008 09:06:22 AM
Next up, Howard the Duck.
It is difficult to by Diagnostic	Jul 10th, 2008 09:08:12 AM
not like Louis.
So are you saying NO Brian Singer?!?!?! by Cotton McKnight	Jul 10th, 2008 09:09:18 AM
Thank the maker!!!! You know, that stupid movie has been playing on Cinemax constantly and it's even worse than I remembered. Get rid of Brandon Routh while you're at it. Seriously. Has that guy been in anything else since? Is he even an actor?
The first half hour of the new Superman movie by ingloriousjedi	Jul 10th, 2008 09:14:02 AM
Should take place on Krypton, with Kal-el on some mission there, that would be cool.
When the World is Ready by BeyondStatic	Jul 10th, 2008 09:14:34 AM
When the world is ready for Superman, he will reappear (he is biblical afterall). The time was right for "Superman: The Movie". The time was NOT right for "Superman Returns". The time is not right now. We are not ready.
New Director by MrDuke118	Jul 10th, 2008 09:14:38 AM
Fuck it. Just give it to Nolan. Then let Bale be Batman in it. That would be awesome. I know it aint gonna happen but a man can dream
Good Hopefully Singer Directs another Marvel Film by ganymede3010	Jul 10th, 2008 09:15:09 AM
Come on Brian, come back home, Marvel > DC.
I remember when Superman Returns came out by ingloriousjedi	Jul 10th, 2008 09:15:33 AM
They had trailers with hard rock music, trying to sell the movie as not being gay..
Woe Be... by frongbak	Jul 10th, 2008 09:16:38 AM
The director who is too earnest for his own good, RIP to Singer's Superman. Let the French dude who makes everything "blow up in a fun way" direct it. Whatever...
Incredible Hulk May Not Spawn a Sequel by california_mtz	Jul 10th, 2008 09:17:05 AM
The Incredible Hulk is a GREAT film! If you haven't seen it, SEE it! If you have, SEE it again! Unfortunately, Universal COMPLETELY dropped the ball on marketing for this film after it was released. It placed second its first weekend and was getting great reviews. Were there ANY commercials regarding "The #1 Action Movie in America" (first place went to a comedy)? No! Were there ANY commercials showing people coming out of the theater showing the audiences reactions and talking about how great the movie was and how much fun they had watching it? No! These things were needed after Ang Lee's version left such a bad taste in people's mouths. Anyone should have known that such a marketing campaign was necessary to overcome the prior negative association people had with Mr. Lee's version. I knew this and I'm not in marketing! How the heck could anyone who works in marketing at Universal or Marvel not have known this?
Force Nolan by gun point to do it. by Diagnostic	Jul 10th, 2008 09:17:06 AM
Film the whole thing in IMAX 3d.
Bring back... by TraumReiter	Jul 10th, 2008 09:17:07 AM
...Singer! I love Superman Returns and we all know Singer can make sequels that are better than the original.
Superman Returns... by Sailor Rip	Jul 10th, 2008 09:17:37 AM
...did have it's problems(the largest being a bloated 3rd act) but I still enjoyed and giving Singer's promise to go all "Wraith of Khan" with the sequel I wouldn't mind seeing him return. But, I wouldn't mind seeing a nother quality director given a shot it's just that Singer has already broken his Man of Steel cherry so I believe him when he says he would make the Superman sequel that fans would like to see. Either way, the world needs more Superman movies.
New Director by Henry_Krinkle_from_FairLawn	Jul 10th, 2008 09:18:46 AM
Just bring back Burton and let him do Superman Lives, might as well. This franchise is dead. Not even Nolan could bring it back to any kind of relevance or interest. Singer ruined 2 franchises by screwing Fox to go to Warners.
Too Bad Singer didn't stick with X3 by california_mtz	Jul 10th, 2008 09:19:10 AM
Cuz X3 sucked with Ratner and Superman Returns sucked with Singer. Has anyone else besides the Watcher contemplated has wrong the universe veered with the one single decision of Singer moving away from X3 to SR?
"Give it to Nolan"???????? by Sailor Rip	Jul 10th, 2008 09:19:38 AM
A dark angsty Superman with no action. Is that what you want?
BlackCrippler by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar	Jul 10th, 2008 09:21:04 AM
Fred not think Hulk terrible, but it was pedestrian. It did have great fight between Hulk and Abomination. Fred not think Letterier be good choice, unless they decide on just a slugfest between Superman and Doomsday, or someone like that, but he better than Singer. Singer has become too pretentious.
Ugh ugh ugh! by BackStJoe	Jul 10th, 2008 09:22:03 AM
Superman Returns is a cinematic MASTERPEICE. To give the sequel to anyone but Singer is a disgrace.
If Nolan directed Superman... by ingloriousjedi	Jul 10th, 2008 09:22:14 AM
He would make sure a script was developed where the character of Kal-El decides that the original blue and red Superman suit was giving the criminals of Metropolis that he wasn't hard edge enough. So Kal-El redesigns the suit as being all black with a silver/grey 'S'. And I would be all for that.
maybe 'clash of the titans' by zom-bot.com	Jul 10th, 2008 09:22:42 AM
is just code for a batman/superman crossover, or a superman/doomsday flick?
Give Superman to Michael Bay! by ganymede3010	Jul 10th, 2008 09:23:57 AM
Hell, I'll bet that movie won't lack the heart pounding action..
Fav by INWOsuxRED	Jul 10th, 2008 09:24:37 AM
"Marvel Studios and "Iron Man" director Jon Favreau have apparently reached a deal for him to helm the sequel due out in 2010 reports Deadline Hollywood Daily."
FMB by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar	Jul 10th, 2008 09:25:10 AM
Fred thanks you for advice.
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Myeh. Makes sense. by Aznbuddy	Jul 10th, 2008 09:26:21 AM
At least he will make a Superman that will hit things. And not just catch, melt, carry, fly and stalk things.
Superman movies need action by SUPERJIM	Jul 10th, 2008 09:27:00 AM
Not love stories. Sure you need to connect to a character, but how many people are going to connect to Superman anyway, regardless of how human his love life is?
So the guy who couldn't even beat Ang Lee's... by Kid Z	Jul 10th, 2008 09:27:21 AM
...Hulk box office is the perfect guy to take over the Superman franchise??? Typical Hollywood coke-think.
McGooCain by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar	Jul 10th, 2008 09:28:49 AM
See Freds name.
Should hire the guys that did those fan movies. by Uncapie	Jul 10th, 2008 09:29:50 AM
They did an fantasic job and know the characters. You know the ones that I'm talking about; the Superman/Batman and Greyson trailers that everyone's seen. But, no, stupidity prevails as they have to hire who's "hawt" or "kwell" at the moment instead of passionate people who understand the material. Favereau understood Ironman and knew what the audience wanted. He delivered the goods. To have him not direct the sequel would be like killing the golden goose. Raimi understood the first two Spiderman's(Lost trak in the third.). You need directors like this at the helm and Superman/Batman, Greyson guys would be perfect.
Mark Millar is a nororious publicity whore... by Sledge Hammer	Jul 10th, 2008 09:30:12 AM
...who has never been above blatantly lying in order to try and drum up publicity and make things happen in his favour, so until I hear something from someone a little more trustworthy I'll keep filing this one under "probable bullshit".
Just watched the Q&A - he did say that BUT by SpencerTrilby	Jul 10th, 2008 09:30:12 AM
his "maybe I've been offered it" sounds like he doesn't even know exactly about it, in a "my agent had a phone call, can't be sure" way. I wouldn't bet the Kent farm on it, from the tone of his voice it sounds like self-promotional name-dropping more than a real commitment.
Fair enough - Singer dug his own grave by Mullah Omar	Jul 10th, 2008 09:31:02 AM
SUPERMAN RETURNS was okay at best. For my tastes it was very slow and the plot was pretty lame. If this happens, Singer has himself to blame for getting the boot. The guy has done other good work, but I don't see why he should get a second chance at SUPERMAN after bungling his first try. This isn't film school.
I like it - he did a great job with HULK by Lenny8	Jul 10th, 2008 09:31:14 AM
Latest HULK was action packed, a little mindless, but not insipid. Fans loved it. SUPERMAN could benefit from a less cerebral take, and with a truly kick ass villain -- which we haven't seen since Zod.
Damn You Michael Bay by MCMLXXVI	Jul 10th, 2008 09:31:37 AM
Damn You Michael Bay
A skinny bald headed dude and real estate swindle by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar	Jul 10th, 2008 09:31:43 AM
That make for exciting Superman movie. In Bizarro universe.
"How the heck could anyone who works in marketing... by Kid Z	Jul 10th, 2008 09:32:21 AM
...at Universal or Marvel not have known this?" I used to work in Marketing and the answer is... uh...cocaine!
california_mtz. by MONKEY BUTT	Jul 10th, 2008 09:32:39 AM
Totally agree. Singer managed to assfuck 2 franchises with the one thrust. Superman Returns was such a dull, disappointing misfire. Everything about it was wrong. it even LOOKED wrong. They shot it digitally with a Canon camera and it looked like shit. It was too dark, de-saturated and the skin tones had a weird orange/yellow hue to them. Superman should be bright and colorful, not look like an indie art film. And Kate Bosworth? Quite possibly the worst casting choice in cinema history. I actually thought Routh did what he could. Singer's to blame here. His head was so far up Richard Donner's ass, he had no unique vision. It's ultimately just a poor rehash of Superman : The Movie. What a waste of time.
Michael Bay + Superman!!!! FUCK YEAH!!! by Seth Brundle	Jul 10th, 2008 09:34:10 AM
Superman needs more fuckin explosions, violence and destruction, fuck...even the Hulk had the abomination to smash into tomorrow, poor supes has no one to withstand one of his punches , im fuckin serious, give this one to Michael Bay so we finally see Superman destroying shit!!!
Fred by McGooCain	Jul 10th, 2008 09:35:31 AM
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Give it to Uwe Boll! by nam0krut	Jul 10th, 2008 09:39:06 AM
Even he could do a better job than the Turd Sandwich that was Superman Returns!
Anyone but Singer by fiester	Jul 10th, 2008 09:42:23 AM
Superman Returns was pure shit sandwich. Just dreadful.
I don't mind... by jasper Stillwell	Jul 10th, 2008 09:44:54 AM
Singer being taken off the project but giving it to Louis Letterier? Jeesus the guy's an elevated TV movie director. This should be Nolan, Cameron, Scott-sized - someone with a vision. Hulk was OK but not what you'd call a quality film, it's saving grace was that it just wasn't quite as bad as everyone thought it would be. When you're getting average performances from the likes of Roth, Norton and Hurt then you know you're dealing with a mediocre talent.
Rachel McAdams for Lois Lane by Mr. Profit	Jul 10th, 2008 09:45:07 AM
Also The Wachowski's for the "Captain America" movie.
Superman Vs Doomsday by HANSOLOS_CARBONITEFROZENPENIS	Jul 10th, 2008 09:47:12 AM
The best Superman comic i ever read was when they killed him off Just fucking do it already, kill superman at the end, and then set up the sequel with the 4 people claiming to be superman (fucking get shaq back as steel i don't care) Doomsday and Supes fighting, bring in other super heros to help i don't give a shit. make it a massive battle with a big path of destruction all the way to metropolis, and a final show down. AND KILL HIM
Warners don't want Singer by Darth Fart	Jul 10th, 2008 09:48:04 AM
Warners were not happy with SR.
Hulk vs Incredible Hulk by Mr. Profit	Jul 10th, 2008 09:49:41 AM
The original Hulk grossed 245 Worldwide and was considered a creative failure. The new Hulk grossed 221 worldwide (so far). It's still making money. And it might end up making just as much as the original. No easy feat considering it was a sequel no one wanted to see and no one expected to do well. So Leterrier is getting jobs is not "Hollywood Coke" thinking.
How was Singer allowed to make Returns?? by performingmonkey	Jul 10th, 2008 09:50:04 AM
As soon as the studio realised he was just gonna make a sucky version of the Donner movie they should have stopped him. Hell, maybe Abrams's crazy Luthor-is-Kryptonian vision would have been better!
california_mtz by Mr. Profit	Jul 10th, 2008 09:54:44 AM
The Incredible Hulk was number 1 at the box office. And Universal did a good job of marketing it. Even though they revealed the Tony Stark cameo in the trailer they did their thing and it paid off.
performingmonkey by Mr. Profit	Jul 10th, 2008 09:57:52 AM
I agree. Abrams script wasn't as bad as what eventually became of "Superman Returns". With some editing to make it truer to the source material, it could have been the movie we wanted to see. I for one (as much as I love 1 and 2) did not want to see a 2 hour Richard Donner love fest. If they just removed the stupid FBI angle and the Lex as alien crap. Everything else was actually quite decent.
if Singer does Superman again - its liek Lee doing Hulk again by Jugdish	Jul 10th, 2008 10:02:16 AM
Bad idea- just get rid of Singer...why give him a second shot- He fucked it all up the first time. Why would you have Lee do the hulk again? It makes no sense
They should give Singer another shot. by The Guy Who Slept Through Everything.	Jul 10th, 2008 10:02:31 AM
X2 anyone?
Abrams' Script by Mosquito March	Jul 10th, 2008 10:04:13 AM
I think Abrams' script was just a first draft. I have a feeling the FBI/alien Lex thing would have been cut out after one or two more drafts anyway.
Singer almost single handedly invented the modern comic book mov by smudgewhat	Jul 10th, 2008 10:05:28 AM
X-Men 1 was the model for how you make cartoony costumed freaks in spandex into actual human beings. so let's give the guy his due. i thought Superman Returns was an intriguing take on the character - it explored what it would really be like for a god to walk among men. i think he should get a shot at a more action-packed #2.
Incredible Hulk & Universal by california_mtz	Jul 10th, 2008 10:06:36 AM
Universal & Marvel did a great job marketing The Incredible Hulk -- up until its release. Then, everything stopped. Even all comic & movie websites, including AICN, completely dropped the movie from coverage! There were very little follow-up articles or promo pieces once the movie opened save for a few articles on some site about the Captain America cameo. There should have been a well-planned campaign to overcome the lingering negative public perception of this franchise as caused by Ang Lee's Hulk and that did not happen. This was unfortunate and it's too bad that someone who's job it is to think about these things didn't think about it. The Incredible Hulk is well-deserving of a future franchise.
Yeah but the first X Men was just underwhelming. by Cotton McKnight	Jul 10th, 2008 10:09:28 AM
It was "okay". Not an abomination like Superman Returns. The problem with letting Bryan Singer do the sequel is that he would bring back all the garbage that made the first one so awful: Superman leaving for 5 years (wtf??), Lois Lane having his kid, winning a pullitzer for an article on why nobody needs Superman, Superman being a stalker.. you know, "all that stuff". I absolutely hate that movie and I would NEVER see a Superman movie with his name attached again. Surely I can't be the only one out there.
I agree about the Incredible Hulk. by Cotton McKnight	Jul 10th, 2008 10:13:23 AM
I usually think that kind of marketing is corny but it would have actually worked with this movie. They needed to have one of those commercials where people are leaving the theater and talking about how great it was. Little kids saying it was "awesome" or whatever little kids say these days. Having 2-30 something year old guys saying they have never seen a Hulk like this, Edward Norton is cool, whatever. And it would have really done well to have the "number one action movie in america" commercial. It's a shame, because it really does deserve to be a franchise. My favorite movie of the year so far.
california_mtz by Mr. Profit	Jul 10th, 2008 10:17:40 AM
I still contend that Universal did their jobs, especially since they just handled the distribution of the movie. The opening weekend gross alone was a shock based on the negative impression the original left behind. Don't worry about a sequel NOT happening, because it will. Universal was happy with the reboot. I'm sure the DVD sales will be strong and capture anyone who stayed home when it was in theatrical release. Also the promotional tie in's this time were realistic (Hulk shilling for GNC health products throughout the month of June and July). I think they did what needed to be done to make the movie a success.
Not Excited About A Superman Sequel by kevinwillis.net	Jul 10th, 2008 10:18:10 AM
And I can sum it up in two words: "Kate Bosworth" . . . Kate Beckinsale, on the other hand . . . now there's a credible Lois Lane.
Cool! No Singer = Possibility For GOOD Superman Movie by LaserPants	Jul 10th, 2008 10:18:56 AM
Singer needs to get off the coke, malaysian adolescent boy prostitutes, and his own raging emo martyr complex before he is allowed within 500 feet of anything related to film-making. Superman Returns was an unmitigated disaster of near Daredevil, Ghost Rider, and/or Catwoman proportions.
The new Hulk film... by I AM ROCKO	Jul 10th, 2008 10:19:05 AM
...was quite good, entertaining in parts however I thought was as flawed as Ang Lee's film. With regards to Superman they need a director with a real vision, Singer made a beautiful looking film with some excellent bits, but was really just channeling Donner and all of the bits that worked were inspired from him- same with the soundtrack. New film, keep Routh, Spacey and Bosworth can fuck off, and ensure the character looks to the future rather than the past.
A Leterrier Hulk Sequel Has Strong Potential by kevinwillis.net	Jul 10th, 2008 10:19:54 AM
To outperform The Incredible Hulk at the box office. Give The Incredible Hulk time to pick up fans on DVD, HBO, and perhaps network TV and a sequel will perform strongly, assuming it's not recast because Norton was unhappy with the final cut.
Alright, fuck all those other projects. by Sailor Rip	Jul 10th, 2008 10:20:22 AM
ALIEN 5 NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hire Geoff Johns To Write The Script by LaserPants	Jul 10th, 2008 10:20:47 AM
You want your critical acclaim, fan love, and box office blockbuster explosion of cashola? Hire Geoff Johns to write the script, get a competant director to shoot it, sit back and watch the money roll in.
Superman Returns got more right than wrong by TheLastCleric	Jul 10th, 2008 10:21:22 AM
The kid was a shit idea and Lex’s plot was ridiculous (Though no worse than his plot in Donner’s Original) but overall I really loved the whole messiah theme in SR. I thought Routh did a fantastic job and some of the action scenes, like the plane rescue and Supes walking right into a mini-gun, were brilliant. I think Singer has been given far too much shit for his mistakes and denied praise for what he got right. I think SR is as good as the original, if not nearly as seminal.
AS LONG AS THEY KEEP THE JOHN WILLIAMS SCORE I DONT CARE! by Mike_D	Jul 10th, 2008 10:21:25 AM
KEEP THE SCORE!!
Superman Vs. Batman by kevinwillis.net	Jul 10th, 2008 10:21:31 AM
Directed by Chris Nolan. Let's stop beating around the bush.
Sigourney said she would only do Alien 5 for Ridley Scott by ShiftyEyedDog2	Jul 10th, 2008 10:26:17 AM
...and ONLY Ridley Scott. otherwise she said there's no way she would do a fifth one
WHO NEEDS SUPERMAN WHEN YOU HAVE THIS... by Docbrowneye	Jul 10th, 2008 10:26:52 AM
http://tinyurl.com/5o5o6z
What they really need is a new Lois by CherryValance	Jul 10th, 2008 10:29:38 AM
I was thinking Robin Tunney would be good. But yeah, maybe they should get a new director. I like Bryan Singer but Returns was all wrong, except for Routh. As long as they keep Routh, it's cool.
What to do with Superman by Uninformed	Jul 10th, 2008 10:29:47 AM
Seldom post but Supes is one of my favorite topics. Why can't DC get its act together with any property other than Batman? Is it because only the "human model" archetype works? Is it because the other heroes only emulate humanity and really cannot embrace it? Not sure. Superman has always been one of my favorite characters, and usually done poorly. Sad that SIII and IV were made. Even sadder that Returns was made. The sense of discovery, exploration and wonder in the Donner Superman movie may never be created again. I don't know if it is possible. Honestly I think they should take a long break off this character as DC/Warner has no clue what to do with it either to make it popular or a successful movie.
Superman Wouldn't Work In The Nolanverse by LaserPants	Jul 10th, 2008 10:30:22 AM
Yes, thats right, he owns a universe now. But seriously, it wouldn't. If they do a Batman and Superman movie, it would have to be a completely different cast and set of rules; something more cartoon-y, less realistic.
HARRY VS. MILLAR by Series7	Jul 10th, 2008 10:30:43 AM
Can anyone explain the bet or something those two had about the first Superman film? I can't seem to find anything about it except one sentence on Comic book database.
Superman Returns by MrDuke118	Jul 10th, 2008 10:31:47 AM
The main prob I had with it was the fact that they spent so much time giving a reach around to the Donner films. I personally feel they should have started from scratch. You know what fuck that. Superman vs Batman would be fucking great. The image of Superman taking out two bad guys then spotting Batman in the shadows....that gives me the horn
There Are Only Two Alien Movies -- Alien and Aliens by LaserPants	Jul 10th, 2008 10:32:45 AM
I've heard rumors of other films, but they are unfounded. Nobody could be stupid enough to fuck up that franchise could they? Like by, say, making the 3rd installment a raging bummer, and the 4th one a steaming pile of goofy ass shit, or pairing up the Alien with another dying space monster franchise and turning it into a generic teen slasher thing would they? Would anyone be that stupid?
French? All you need to know is Omelet du Fromage! by Squashua	Jul 10th, 2008 10:33:24 AM
Thanks, Steve Martin!
Superman vs Batman vs Aliens vs Predator vs Robocop vs Terminato by LaserPants	Jul 10th, 2008 10:33:29 AM
Theres all kinds of possibilities for really shitty movies.
Superman Returns by Adelai Niska	Jul 10th, 2008 10:36:15 AM
Was bloated and took its time, but I don't get the outright hate for that movie. The airplane catch was awesome and Routh was pretty great. (Bosworth sucked and they shouldn't have stuck with DOnner's Luthor, for sure) Lets not forget that Donner's Superman didn't punch anyone either (until the second movie). Anyway, here's hoping the new movie has Lexcorp, a busty Lois, and a villain Supes can punch. Hows about calling it "The Man of Steel" and have the baddie be metallo?
So Leterrier delivers a passable Hulk movie... by Chishu_Ryu	Jul 10th, 2008 10:37:02 AM
...so now let's give the Frenchman every major movie franchise on the planet. In fact, hive him the next Star Wars trilogy...
TheLastCleric by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar	Jul 10th, 2008 10:37:33 AM
Donner's plot in original was boring too. It was epic in scale, but that not overcome lack of true villain that could imperil superman. Superman II, got off to slow start, but picked up during battle.
Yeah, Cause The Donner Movies Sucked Too by LaserPants	Jul 10th, 2008 10:41:41 AM
Great score by John Williams. Great art design for Krypton. Spooky Phantom Zone. Everything else? Meh. At best.
They should ask Merrick's son! by IndyCollector	Jul 10th, 2008 10:41:43 AM
He obviously understands pacing.
Alien 5.. by Autodidact	Jul 10th, 2008 10:42:39 AM
.. MUST NOT HAVE RIPLEY IN IT. That is all.
He Made Time, On Earth, Go Backwards by LaserPants	Jul 10th, 2008 10:43:11 AM
So, what happened to the rest of the universe? It just stood and watched? And why wasn't the Earth torn asunder killing everyone instead of re-writing the rules of quantum physics and space time itself? D-U-M-B.
"no if it's with Shia" by Aeghast	Jul 10th, 2008 10:43:58 AM
Oh I'm a big Leterrier fan now :)))
ALIEN 36: EVEN WORSE THAN THE PREVIOUS 34 EPISODES by LaserPants	Jul 10th, 2008 10:44:10 AM
I hear thats the working title for part 36.
Reboot Alien, Hire Uwe Boll and Bryan Singer, PG Rating by LaserPants	Jul 10th, 2008 10:44:53 AM
Yay! (Sarcasm.)
meh by Brett_FlashJ	Jul 10th, 2008 10:44:59 AM
I really wish we could see a Singer Superman movie without the slavish devotion to Donner's movie. This choice doesn't really work for me. But maybe he can pull it off if it happens. Here's hoping.
Time did not go backwards by Autodidact	Jul 10th, 2008 10:47:02 AM
Superman did not make time go backwards. He flew faster than light and travelled back in time. We see the Earth rotate backwards because we're seeing him move backwards in time. It's still a stupid ending but it drives me crazy that people look at it that way.
Half of Superman Returns by Series7	Jul 10th, 2008 10:47:06 AM
Was Routh and Boseworth starring at each other.
Bosworth Has A Cute Face, Though by LaserPants	Jul 10th, 2008 10:57:27 AM
can't act, has the body of a starving 10 year old boy, but, come on, she has a really pretty face. If she ate some food some day she might start looking all hot and stuff.
Superman needs to be shaken up by TVguy4566	Jul 10th, 2008 10:58:11 AM
No Singer and his homage to Donner's original. No Routh playing Christopher Reeves playing Superman. No miscast Kate Bosworth as Lois Lane. No kid with superpowers. No Kevin Spacey. No Kumar. No whacky evil sidekicks in general. The Superman character is too whitebread in general for today's audiences. No one wants the boy scout superhero anymore. They want them either dark (Batman) or flawed (Iron Man). Cloning Donner's original (which was great) was the wrong move for Singer. They don't need a complete reboot for Superman, but they do need to change the direction and tone. If you are going to keep the boyscout Superman, you gotta amp up the action. Or at least go in the direction that the comics have gone in the past where Superman's boy scout attitude gets in the way of him doing good because he blindly follows the wrong leaders. I can't see this news being anything but good for the franchise.
i can't believe it by Norm3	Jul 10th, 2008 11:02:31 AM
They are going to reboot this again. SR was a good movie. Routh was great. All they needed was a Supervillain. I guess they are regretting the Kid. Well those studio asses should have nixed that part. The plot could have been better but otherwise I liked it.
give Singer a second chance, it worked with X-Men by newc0253	Jul 10th, 2008 11:04:43 AM
The original X-Men was only okay, whereas X2 was great. Singer's a good enough director to know where he messed up & how to fix it. Leterrier's Hulk was good but he sounds a little giddy. I might be more circumspect in his position, you don't want to sound like an ass.
What do you call it by Darth Busey	Jul 10th, 2008 11:05:12 AM
When the reboot needs an immediate reboot?
Boyscout Superman Could Work Today by LaserPants	Jul 10th, 2008 11:07:15 AM
But he's got to face a god-level, apocalyptic threat that makes you wish there was a Superman. Like the villain has to be so powerful and so evil, that people will thrill to the idea of a boy scout god hero to come and save us. Otherwise, fucking forget it. In other words, real estate scams are not a god-level threat. Unless, of course, it has something to do with sub-prime mortgage lending on kryptonite land masses resulting in a deepening recession already at the critical level due to an obscenely expensive Endless War fought on false pretenses. Btw, off topic, but why haven't Bush and Cheney been impeached and thrown in prison yet? Sounds like a job for Superman!
I don't get how people trash by TVguy4566	Jul 10th, 2008 11:10:09 AM
Singer for basically copying Donner and praise Routh for basically playing Christopher Reeves and not Superman/Clark Kent. Routh brought nothing original to his performance and just copied Reeves' speech patterns and mannerisms. Even when Ewan MacGregor copied Alec Guniess' mannerisms and speach patters in the Star Wars prequels, he actually brought some originality to the Obi Wan role. Routh should star in the Christopher Reeves bio pic, but I don't know if he should star in another Superman movie. His impressions of Reeves were even distracting at times in that movie.
Yeah, But XMen Was Good, SR Was Awful by LaserPants	Jul 10th, 2008 11:10:39 AM
XMen gave us a good taste, and left us wanting more. SR was just bad. I didn't walk out of the theatre wondering what could happen next, but hoping they reboot the whole thing and start from scratch. SR was a disaster.
Couldn't read all the Blah Blah Blah by EightiesBaby	Jul 10th, 2008 11:15:52 AM
BUT I am glad that hack Singer got the boot. He is a horrible director. In fact he needs to direct Beverly Hills 90210 because that's what X Men and Supes felt like, bad soap operas.
As long as Brandon Routh plays Supes I dont care where it goes. by Redfive!	Jul 10th, 2008 11:17:24 AM
If they change actors i wont go see it.
LaserPants by santi01	Jul 10th, 2008 11:18:18 AM
Clap Clap Clap Clap Impeach those traitors to America!
he hates shia, therefore, he is a god by bacci40	Jul 10th, 2008 11:23:50 AM
nuff said
Oh Sweet Lord Christ... by JustThisGuy	Jul 10th, 2008 11:23:54 AM
Incredible Hulk was passable at best, a movie that left me cold and bored in the theater. Much of that was due to the directing. I swear, if I have to see a Superman movie where the payoff is an obviously CGI Supes vs an obviously CGI villain in an obviously CGI Metropolis, and all of it poorly framed to boot, I will make sure I can spread enough bad word of mouth to ensure I sizeable hit in box office. I've heard that Millar wants to make make Superman "fresh" and "edgy". Superman isn't meant to be either of those things. That's the fucking point. What are we going to get? Superman with a drinking problem? Superman who is tempted with his power and joins the bad guys? Superman abusing Lois? How about action? Superman using "superkryptonian" guns that have bullets that can curve through, not only space, but time as well? Pass.
Doesn't That Make Us All Gods, Then? by LaserPants	Jul 10th, 2008 11:25:56 AM
If hating Shia is a pre-requisite for god-hood, you gotta lotta gods all up in his bitch. Actually, I don't hate the kid, so that must make me a demon! Like.. THE BATMAN ON FEAR TOXIN!!! AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!
Problem with Shia by santi01	Jul 10th, 2008 11:28:14 AM
I also dont hate Shitty The Beef all that much. My problem with his acting is hes pretty much pulling a Will Smith in all his movies. He doesn't act, in all his movies he's always Shia just with a different character name
Ron Jeremy IS the Man of Steel!!! by BNITT	Jul 10th, 2008 11:28:38 AM

SUPERMAN RETURNS 'NUKED THE FRIDGE' by vanman009	Jul 10th, 2008 11:28:53 AM
Thats All!!
Superman Returns wasn't flawed. by I Hope You Die	Jul 10th, 2008 11:31:51 AM
It was just straight awful. I submit that it would take a great act of creative genius to reboot this franchise.
Superman Stalks Lois by santi01	Jul 10th, 2008 11:32:50 AM
On top of all of that Lois was a whore. Sorry Cyclops, but my old fuck friend is back, see ya!
Superman Returns didn't connect with people by darthvedder81	Jul 10th, 2008 11:34:49 AM
I loved it and found it the best entertainment of 2006. That said I can see why it didn't connect with people. It was not the usual whizz-bang action superhero spectacle 21st audiences expect to see released every other summer weekend. It was a more character driven, slower paced story with the mythic elements of the hero emphasized--which is exactly why I liked it. It also had distinctly period elements to it (the production design looked right out of the 40's cartoon). Period movies like that mostly don't work for the multiplex masses anymore as anything older than 2000 is considered mostly lame.
TVguy4566 by CherryValance	Jul 10th, 2008 11:35:36 AM
I really don't think most people have a problem with the things in Superman Returns that were close to the Donner films. I think it was the other crap like Kryptonite Island and the kid that caused most of the problems. But the fact is they could have done anything they wanted and they chose to half remake it and then add wacky shit for no apparent reason. Also when you think about it Superman Returns had very little Superman in it. That's not Routh's fault, so I don't see what he could have added to it. Singer's mistake, imo, was trying to straddle the past and the future. He should have just chosen one.
Sigourney Weaver... by emeraldboy	Jul 10th, 2008 11:35:59 AM
said last year that the alien franchise was dead. as far as she was concerned and if it wasnt dead she wouldnt be in it. She said that she wouldnt be involved in the ghostbusters game.
why? by godhelpus	Jul 10th, 2008 11:36:24 AM
is being offered Superman? The Hulk sucked.
"Wrath of Khan" it!!! by JohnnyGato	Jul 10th, 2008 11:41:33 AM
Damn! Singer did say he would "Wrath of Khan" the next Supes film. I for one would like to see what he has in mind before I give it to anyone else.
Character Driven? by LaserPants	Jul 10th, 2008 11:41:45 AM
Yup. Turns out Superman is actually a creepy stalker metro-sexual, Lois is kind of a whore with the body of a starving 10 year old boy, and Lex Luthor can't help but pull another real-estate scam to defeat a god hero. So, sure its character driven, poorly, into the ground. Batman Begins, Spiderman 1&2, XMen 1&2 were also all strongly character driven films in addition to being action-tastic. You don't have to boring, contrived, and maudlin to be character driven.
A Singer Sequel would HAVE to deal with the kid by EriamJH	Jul 10th, 2008 11:44:45 AM
...and that just begs more soap opera B.S. that would HAVE to tie into the first Singer superman movie... which would bring back the boredom.
They need to reboot Supes by m_reporter	Jul 10th, 2008 11:45:34 AM
Seriously, not sure if they need a origin story, but rebooting might be the way to go. I don't know if a origin story would be a great idea, because the Donner film did so many things right, but they could give it a shot, maybe with setting up braniac for the sequel. Superman is a hero made for the big screen, I have no idea how Singer could screw it up so much in Superman Returns. I mean, you got a hero that can do incredible things and what do you do? Make him carry a huge rock. Fucking awesome...
Warner Brothers hates gays by scudd	Jul 10th, 2008 11:46:21 AM
That's the real reason they're giving it to someone else.
what about Buckaroo Banzai!!!! by irrelevntelefant	Jul 10th, 2008 11:46:25 AM
been waiting on that sequel for over 20 years!
Why Superman Fails by HANSOLOS_CARBONITEFROZENPENIS	Jul 10th, 2008 11:46:28 AM
1. No one can match him. 2. No one can fight him, without the assistance of kryptonite (which is lame now a-days). 3. Lex Luthor is always the bad guy. 4. Fuck the original movies they had there time period no reason to resurrect them now. 5. being stalker-ish and breaking an entering into Lois's house at the end of returns isn't cool. 6. No one really gives a shit if he has a son, now we have 2 people who can't be touched by anything.
Good! Get rid of Singer... by Kid Z	Jul 10th, 2008 11:47:10 AM
...and his "Hollywood Gay Men's Choir" casting choices. Let's see an action-packed Supes movie with Zod or (if only) Darkseid as the villain. And for chrissakes and actress with personality as Lois Lane instead of an emaciated little twat who was probably Singer's ideal woman archetype... the girl he wished he could be (guy's obviously a "catcher").
darthvedder81's comments... by TTMan	Jul 10th, 2008 11:47:19 AM
...are the most intelligent and logical yet posted on this board.' All you haters out there are NEVER satisfied. If you fat, socially inept nerds were placed in the middle of a Jessica Alba/Scarlett Johannson/Natalie Portman/Katie Holmes orgy, you would complain that Katie Holmes ruined BATMAN BEGINS for you.
And I wish.... by santi01	Jul 10th, 2008 11:47:22 AM
Bryan Singer wasn't gay, then maybe Superman wouldn't of been gay too (not that theres anything wrong with it)
Incredible Hulk & Universal continued by oblivious1972	Jul 10th, 2008 11:47:44 AM
I have to agree, The Incredible Hulk was being advertising reasonably well until it opened when Universal suddenly seemed to give up on it. Hell, I’ve seen ten times more advertisements for Iron Man in the last few weeks, a film that came out over a month earlier and is reaching the end of its theatrical run. The Hulk performed as expected in its opening weekend but riding on the back of the Lee Hulk movie there really needed to be a conscientious push to get people to see this was a different type of film. Even now I’ve heard of people who won’t go and watch it because they felt so burned by Lee’s version. Still I am still hopeful of a sequel, it will defiantly take more that Lee’s version in the next few days plus it hasn’t opened in Germany and Japan yet; two of the biggest markets outside of the US.
Superman Returns was FANTASTIC! by Racer Z	Jul 10th, 2008 11:47:48 AM
And I'd hardly call The Incredible Hulk a success. This isn't exactly good news to me. I really want to see what Bryan Singer would do with another Superman film. But it looks like most of you bottle suckers are going to get your wish.
Get Donner back to direct... by IAmJack'sUserID	Jul 10th, 2008 11:48:20 AM
Hire a top notch comic book writer with little movie experience (so he has no ego or bad habits), and get Michael Giacchino to score. Keep Routh and Spacey, lose Bosworth and hire Rose Byrne. Have Superman destroy a large asteroid at the beginning of the movie for that Raiders of the Lost Ark-esque exciting opening hook. Yes, Superman can punch the asteroid. Insta-win!
Warner's does not "hate gays"... by Kid Z	Jul 10th, 2008 11:48:23 AM
...they just hate whiny, faggy little emo bitches who ruin their franchises before they even get a start.
Superman: Birthright by fat bears	Jul 10th, 2008 11:49:48 AM
That's the template for your reboot, right there. That story updates everything, and everyone, that's important about Superman. Lex is a respectable villain, Lois is tough, the Kents are alive and Martha is watching the skies for more alien visitors... If the franchise gets a kick in the butt that'd be the place to start.
Maybe Michael Bay can reboot! by santi01	Jul 10th, 2008 11:51:25 AM
Just fuckin with ya's!
Letterier is likely full of shit. by Dragon Man	Jul 10th, 2008 11:52:31 AM
He likes to stir things up and says things that may or may not be true. Case in point: He said in an interview with G4 that Captain America would be seen in the Hulk movie but as we all know was not the case. Then he says it got cut out but he assures will be included on the DVD. Cut to Gale Ann Hurd the producer who says she doesn't know what he's talking about, that there was no Cap in Hulk. The guy talks out of his ass on a regular basis to get heat.
From Louis by Louis Leterrier	Jul 10th, 2008 11:52:35 AM
Hey Merrick, What I meant was that I had been told about a possible reinvention of Superman. Not that I was offered the job. I'm doing CLASH and loving it. Thanks. Louis.
From EMPIRE magazine by TTMan	Jul 10th, 2008 11:52:38 AM
With the inspired appropriation of John Williams’ majestic 1978 theme music raising acres of gooseflesh, Superman flies again, bringing mankind what Marlon Brando’s Jor-El called "the light to show the way". Like the flag-waving hero of Richard Donner’s Superman movies, the boy from Krypton comes bathed in nostalgia, reverence and oodles of religious symbolism. The result is that most beatific of superhero’s most magnificent screen incarnation yet. Bryan Singer is a besotted man, with a determination that Superman belongs to the movies. Amongst the visual razzmatazz, those dreamy effects and gilded edges, he references Casablanca, Close Encounters, Citizen Kane and Titanic, films in the widest possible sense. If Steven Spielberg were to have made a Superman movie, it would surely have this sense of wonder, exaltation and romance. The story loosely follows on from Superman II, with Lois Lane’s memory of his true identity wiped by a kiss. Singer stays fully in touch with the heartache that murmurs beneath that iconic blue suit — the idea that our hero’s divine nature acts as a barrier to love. Clark’s unrequited love for Lois and her crush on Superman are the soul of the story, far more central, say, than the mind-blowing action sequences clamouring for your attention. This may confound those just looking for a regular can of fizzy action juice, but will taste like fine wine to the growing legion of Singer fans who admire his dedication to adding emotional weight to summer thrills. The news that Lois is the mother of a five year-old boy and engaged to newcomer Richard White (James Marsden) sends the Man Of Steel into meltdown, the unfolding emotional conflict steering the movie. While such sentimental concerns could become cloying, Singer, as with his X-Mens, finds the perfect middle way to explore the conflict within his characters. Kate Bosworth brings an eager intensity to the star reporter; even though she lacks the world-weary wryness of Margot Kidder, she fully evokes Lane’s conflict and tough exterior. But the greatest victory is Brandon Routh. The resemblance between Routh and Christopher Reeve is uncanny (when he first turns around as Clark Kent, you’d swear it was 1978) and, while proving every bit as wholesomely heroic, Routh even adds his own melancholic touch. Singer has built a larger, worldwide arena here: Superman traverses the globe, not just the US, in his fight for "truth and justice…" (references to the "American way" are conspicuously absent), and consequently Spacey’s eloquent Lex Luthor is a further-thinking and far crueller customer than Gene Hackman’s. His diabolic and rather complicated masterplan is inevitably fuelled by shards of that dreaded green kryptonite, while Parker Posey’s moll makes delightfully dimwitted fun of his megalomania. And such dastardly deeds do, naturally, furnish the movie with a series of breathtaking action sequences. While symbolically carrying the world on his shoulders, he literally carries continents across his broad back. More than that, though, Singer realises it isn’t enough to believe a man can fly; these are flights of emotional expression, exhilarating in their sense of freedom set against rapturous skylines. Indeed, the film floats in a preposterous, magical America forever bathed in golden light. Singer has reinvigorated an American icon, with a film that sits happily in the upper tiers of Superman’s grand pantheon. Verdict It’s all about heart — not that the spectacle falters; this is the finest popular entertainment since the Rings trilogy closed. Superman doesn’t fly — he soars. Reviewer: Ian Nathan
From eCritic by TTMan	Jul 10th, 2008 11:53:12 AM
After reading both glowingly positive and scathingly negative reviews for SUPERMAN RETURNS, I decided to do something I rarely do with a major summer blockbuster – I went into the theater with zero expectations either way. What I left with was one of the most magical cinematic experiences I’ve had in a long time (and after nearly forty years and hundreds of movie reviews, very little strikes me as magical these days). Much in the way that Christopher Nolan (BATMAN BEGINS) decided to “reboot” the BATMAN franchise and start over by giving us a film we could take seriously after the overly-campy Tim Burton films and the just-plain-stupid Joel Schumacher entries, Bryan Singer (X-MEN) chooses to eschew the regrettable and forgettable third and fourth installments of the most recent SUPERMAN franchise (something that I wish would also be done with ALIEN 3 and ALIEN RESURRECTION . . . but I digress). But rather than start from scratch (and really what would be more dull and pointless than another “origin of Superman” film?), he simply made SUPERMAN RETURNS the spiritual successor of Richard Donner’s first two films (inarguably the best of the series, if not all time). Set five years after the events of SUPERMAN 2, we see the Man O’ Steel (Brandon Routh) returning from his five year round-trip to the dead planet of Krypton. Having found no signs of life, he returns home, crash-landing a crystal-shaped spaceship in Ma Kent’s back Forty and emerging to declare that he is the last one left of his kind. (And it is at this point where many have already chosen to begin their nitpicks about the nature and origin of the ship he arrives in – to which I can only respond “Who gives a flying fuck?” I would assume the ship was built by the same kind of mysterious crystal technology that built everything else in Superman’s arctic hideaway. End of subject and on to more important things). But while Superman has been off searching for his roots, a couple of very significant things have happened in the world he left behind. Lois Lane (Kate Bosworth) has moved on, having written a Pulitzer Prize-winning article entitled “Why The World Doesn’t Need Superman” in his absence (Hell hath no fury . . .) and started a family with fiancée’ Richard White (James Marsden). Meanwhile, Lex Luthor has been released from prison on parole due to a legal technicality and, having swindled a rich old widow out of her fortune, now has the financial wherewithal to pursue his latest scheme – a scheme involving pilfered Kryptonian crystal technology from Superman’s Fortress of Solitude. Using the stolen crystals, he plans to “build” a new continent – one that will eventually absorb and inundate the United States, but that the rest of the world will presumably line up to buy an expensive piece of land on. That the plan is dangerously dumb and half-baked is another point of contention among the nitpickers – but hey, is it any more ludicrous than his plan to use stolen nukes detonated on fault lines to sink California into the sea? (his half-baked plan from the first SUPERMAN film). Besides, this is Lex Luthor we’re talking about – not the most mentally stable of arch-nemeses. The only thing more out-of -control than his greedy ambition is the hate-on he has for his old rival, the boy in Red and Blue. When Superman finally springs back into action for the first time in five years, it takes place a good 30 to 40 minutes into the film – much like the original SUPERMAN took its time to get to that first close-up of a shirt being ripped opened to reveal the Super-symbol underneath. And just as it was in that movie, this first action sequence is well worth the wait. When a plane that Lois is on plummets toward the earth, Superman blazes to the rescue in the first of several brilliantly staged action sequences. And this is the third point of contention that many have had with the film – “There’s not enough action!” I would contend the opposite – there is just the right amount of action. Since there are no super-villains in this film (but oh, I can’t wait for the next one), many might be let down by the lack of big super-battles or a huge climactic super-showdown. But Singer wisely chose to avoid such trappings for now, taking the time in this film to build characters that we actually care for out of Archetypes that have been recycled many times over the last 50 years. Subsequently, most of the action involves him rescuing humans from one calamity or another, and stopping a bank robbery in one particularly fun segment that is as cool as anything seen in all three of the MATRIX films combined. But the focus is not on the action, nor is it meant to be – and to be honest, any attempt to shoehorn more action into a script already dense with character arcs and intriguing subplots would have led to action overload and quickly become a case of “Oh look, Superman caught another guy falling from a building – yawn.” Suffice it to say that what action there is in Superman is exciting, well done, and serves its purpose of punctuating, rather than dominating, the story. And the story is where the heart of SUPERMAN RETURNS lies, because from the moment that Lois and Superman lock eyes after that dazzling airplane rescue, we know that she never stopped carrying a Super-sized torch for the big guy. Like every other aspect of this film, the relationship angle between them is handled beautifully. Never overdone, never over-dramatic, it shows us a very deep love between two people who know that they cannot be together like a “normal” couple for a variety of very valid reasons. The portrayal of Richard White as a sympathetic fiancée’, generally nice guy, and a heroic individual in his own right just makes their situation that much more untenable. This is the true battle in SUPERMAN RETURNS – his struggle with his feelings for Lois that must go unrequited (for now, anyway), and with his own dual nature as a man, and a god among men. If half of the film’s strength is derived from a thoughtful script and Singer’s impeccable direction, then the other half is easily attributed to the performances that breathe life into its characters. Most pleasantly surprising of the bunch is relative newcomer Brandon Routh. Not only does he look the part in spades, but the dude can actually act! Routh takes the basic elements of the character from Donner’s films and incorporates them into his performance, but he never goes over the top. In moments, he is almost channeling Christopher Reeve as Clark Kent, but takes a more subdued approach. Here, Clark is still socially awkward and soft-spoken, but without the excess of fumbling and stumbling. Likewise, his rendition of Superman is more refined, giving us deeper and more introspective Man of Steel than the overgrown platitude-spouting Boy Scout with super powers that Reeves’ Superman often came off as. Likewise, Bosworth’s portrayal of Lois infuses just the right amount of brashness and bitchiness without taking it too far and rendering her character unsympathetic (Did Margot Kidder get on anyone else’s last fucking nerve sometimes in the original films? Please tell me I’m not the only one). Best of all, however, is Spacey, who chews on the crystalline scenery with wry wit and refined menace – even if he is still guilty of not hiring the brightest of henchmen. Frank Langella also has a small but nice part as Perry White, and once again, captures the essence of the character without overdoing it. While I would not be quite so daring as to say that the main players here are “better” than their 1980’s counterparts, lest I be drawn and quartered by a throng of rabid Donner-era superfans (and who I would consider myself one of), I will say that it’s nice to see each of these actors making the character their own by exercising a bit more subtlety, rather than simply trying to mimic or out-do their predecessors. Enough already. I could almost get into a thesis-length paper about this film, it’s performances, and it’s subtext – but that would require too much spoilerfication and far more time and space than a simple film review should require. All I have left to say is that by the time those end credits rolled, I had laughed, cried, and cheered far more than I have for any other film in a very long time – much less a film based on a comic book character. And isn’t that feeling of being both emotionally drained and exhilarated what we go to the movies for?
To Louis Letterier who may or may not be a big faker... by Dragon Man	Jul 10th, 2008 11:57:21 AM
If it is you, why don't you tell us if Cap was in the Hulk movie or not, once and for all.
TTMan by kwisatzhaderach	Jul 10th, 2008 11:57:33 AM
Superman Returns was a disaster. And Louis Letterier will make an Indiana Jones or Alien movie only when hell freezes over.
"I had laughed, cried, and cheered far more than I have for any by santi01	Jul 10th, 2008 11:58:15 AM
WTF was he smoking? Pass it here
CherryValance by TVguy4566	Jul 10th, 2008 11:59:08 AM
A lot of people complain that he he paid homage to Donner's original. There are a half dozen to a dozen posts in this thread to support that. As for Routh, he was in it enough to make the role his own, but chose to play Christopher Reeves. Granted that was probably Singer's decision (which makes me want him off the project even more), but Routh could have tributed Reeves' performance without just mimicing it.
Louis by santi01	Jul 10th, 2008 11:59:51 AM
If that is you, I though Hulk was really good. Thank god you didnt give him a son.
Do the Kevin Smith script!!! by m_reporter	Jul 10th, 2008 12:00:53 PM
Joke. But yeah, Incredible Hulk is way overrated here. Its all flash no soul. The complete opposite of Superman Returns, which had a good concept but it lacked the spectacle and an formidable adversary for Supes. Lex is great and all, but hes been done already. A Supes movie needs to take notes from Spiderman 2, great action, with great drama, in great balance. In my opinion Spiderman 2 is the best superhero film so far.
superman returns was shit, the new hulk was fanstastic by Mr_X	Jul 10th, 2008 12:01:41 PM
ang lee fucked things up completely. singer also fucked things up. superman needs a kick arse villain. no more fucking luthor. and get rid of the actors who played jimmy olsen and lois lane, they were crap! enough already, brainic or metallo!
Clash of the titans better have tits and ass by General Crom	Jul 10th, 2008 12:01:58 PM
like the original or you'll never be able to outdo it-FYI
"Kate Bosworth brings an eager intensity to the star reporter" by TVguy4566	Jul 10th, 2008 12:02:39 PM
Really?!? Maybe she was impatient for the movie to end already as many people in the audience were.
BB > Spiderman2 by santi01	Jul 10th, 2008 12:03:57 PM
Not by much, but Kirsten Dunst kills every movie shes in for me. Whiny drunk ass C.U. Next Tuesday. Wish I could of tackled her when she was running in that fuckin wedding dress.
How did we go... by kwisatzhaderach	Jul 10th, 2008 12:04:28 PM
from Richard Donner, George Lucas, Steven Spielberg, Ridley Scott, Joe Dante, James Cameron, John McTiernan and Paul Verhoeven to McG, Bryan Singer, Len Wiseman, Louis Letterier, Gore Verbinski, Brett Ratner, Tim Story and Michael Bay? Sad days my friends. Thank god for David Fincher and Christopher Nolan.
What about Nolan? by santi01	Jul 10th, 2008 12:06:22 PM
I'm starting to think everything the guy touches is gold. I bet he would do Superman right. As opposed to Singer just doing Superman aka Brandon Routh.
Is it because of "play or pay" contract between by DarthBakpao	Jul 10th, 2008 12:07:43 PM
Singer and WB that keeps him on board for the sequels? If not, Singer would had been fired a long time ago.
eggsalad by santi01	Jul 10th, 2008 12:08:45 PM
who is santio1? becuase your mom can vouch im no fruit
Im not understanding eggsalad? by santi01	Jul 10th, 2008 12:13:06 PM
Arent you supposed to be a kiddie porn site right now? Too bad I'm polish asshole
Superman works fine... by spectrebeeyatch	Jul 10th, 2008 12:13:52 PM
He just needs an uber villain to face off against. A bald dude with quirky side kicks is not a menace. A giant monster or whatever causing havoc would. That is all it needs.
Wait a minute! by santi01	Jul 10th, 2008 12:14:18 PM
Are the same eggsalad thats going around telling people Jesus told you to cut off your dick? AhA!
M. Bay really makes sense by runfoodrun	Jul 10th, 2008 12:14:58 PM
who else?
Nah, SM2>BB by m_reporter	Jul 10th, 2008 12:15:49 PM
And heres why. SM2 has great action scenes, BB is lacking in that department. BB does have better characters, but the plot is a bit dopey. It's all great and good till the microwave thing starts. And it could pass if they made the 1st half of the film less serious, but the 2nd half is full of cheesy one-liners and the quality of the story takes a nosedive. I said this earlier on these boards somewhere, but you can't base a movie so much in reality, and make a movie that takes itself so seriously, only to go to a completely unrealistic scenario and silly one-liners in the 2nd half. Where SM2 is silly and doesn't take itself one bit serious from the 1st frame. Also the villains in BB cant compare to Doc. Ock in SM2. I still love BB, it's the best superhero origin story, and I am really, REALLY looking forward to TDK.
Singers track record by BackStJoe	Jul 10th, 2008 12:18:49 PM
The Usual Suspects 10/10 Apt Pupil 8/10 X-Men 9/10 X2 8/10 Superman Returns 9/10 To jettison Singer is to give up on the franchise for another 15 years.
No really....... by santi01	Jul 10th, 2008 12:19:10 PM
I'm polish. Ask your mom, she makes me DP her, polish sausages up her twat and back door. Same time no lie! Freaky Bitch, but whatever she does swallow!
BackStJoe by kwisatzhaderach	Jul 10th, 2008 12:22:04 PM
Superman Returns 0/10
Superman II: The Donner Cut by Samuel Fulmer	Jul 10th, 2008 12:22:56 PM
I just watched this last night. I thought it was better than Lester's film, but it should've kept Lester's ending (turning back time twice, even if that was going to be the original ending before it was used for pt. 1 is even more lame than a superkiss).
Singer's track record : another opinion by Samuel Fulmer	Jul 10th, 2008 12:24:26 PM
Public Acces: Never Saw....Usual Suspects-10/10, Apt Pupil-6/10, X-Men 7/10, X2-8/10, Superman Returns 5/10.
Samuel Fulmer (SII) by BackStJoe	Jul 10th, 2008 12:25:32 PM
I thought the Donner cut of SII was a disaster. Thank God they took control from him and gave it to Richard Lester.
I vomit on the idea of a Non-Spielberg Indiana by The Chosen	Jul 10th, 2008 12:25:36 PM

Superman Returns Flaws by Samuel Fulmer	Jul 10th, 2008 12:27:03 PM
Too many Donner riffs, poor casting choices, bad script, no entertainment value.
Incredible Hulk isn't much better than Ang's Hulk by Damien Chowder	Jul 10th, 2008 12:27:55 PM
Yes and anybody who thinks so are biased towards hating on Ang Lee's version. Both films are almost identical save for the Tim Roth character. The new Hulk was like a Calvin Klein model and Betty Ross was emotionally dead. All in all both films wouldn't amount to 15 minutes of Hulk on screen. The rest is whiney human.
No, just....no. by oisin5199	Jul 10th, 2008 12:28:38 PM
I don't know if this 'interview' is evidence that Leterrier's getting way too big a head or whether he was just joking. There's no way they'd go from Singer to the director of Transporter 2. Incredible Hulk was entertaining, but Hulk is no Superman. That's a whole other level that Leterrier is so not able to handle. I wish everybody (including Mark Millar) would just shut the fuck up and let Singer do his sequel. Does no one remember X2? Singer can bring it for a sequel, and now that he's got his Donner fetish out of the way, he can go forward with a new vitality, and bring on some Brainiac and Metallo. And I don't really want a Mark Millar Superman - let him stick to Kick Ass, and all his cynical revisionist superhero stuff - there's a place for that. Hell, if anything have him write the Avengers movie, since Ultimates was the best Marvel stuff he did. But keep him away from Superman. I agree with whoever said we don't need a 'hard-edged' Superman. Superman is not about being 'hard-edged' - it's about hope, nostalgia, and wonder, which Singer's first film had plenty of. So just lay off and let Singer do his thing.
Give Singer a break on the first X-film... by CeejayNightwing	Jul 10th, 2008 12:29:46 PM
he had a low budget of $70 million and they cut his production time in half while he was making the film. This is why with a better budget and more time he managed to make such a great sequel with X2. he deserves at least one more shot at doing a better Superman film before they start panicking. Kate Bosworth was fine as Lois, she actually did some investigative reporting which is more than Margot Kidder's Lois ever did. Besides, they're completely different periods of the same character, the new Lois is a mother so not exactly the feisty selfish reporter that Margot Kidder portrayed. The best thing they can do with a next Superman film is an adaptation of the Death of Superman Story. Ang Lee's Hulk was utter misguided bollocks, the new Hulk was fantastic entertainment and everything the first filmshould have been, it's actually making more money than Ang Lee's on a day-for-day basis and merely 5 weeks in release compared to the total Ang lee's made after 17 weeks. It should comfortably make more money than Ang Lee's version by the end of it's run both internationally and domestically.
Singer should be back by rogueleader66	Jul 10th, 2008 12:30:01 PM
SR had its problems, but was a solid entertaining film. The first X Men movie was good, not great. X2 was great. I think Singer could improve upon the strengths of SR and make a really great follow up. I loved Spacey as LL, but there needs to be another villian for him to team up with, because it's obvious he cannot beat Superman alone. I think Singer should do the next film, I am confident he could top SR.
How can Letterier do a better job than Singer? by Damien Chowder	Jul 10th, 2008 12:32:15 PM
When he couldn't much better Ang Lee's Hulk? Idiotic.
Martin Scorsese's Superman by Samuel Fulmer	Jul 10th, 2008 12:34:26 PM
Will Supes be Leo or De Niro?? Maybe Pesci?
here's a thought by Bloo	Jul 10th, 2008 12:34:27 PM
I've been saying Joe Johnston for any Narnia or Potter film, but I think he might be a great director for Superman
Well, he's better than Brett Ratner by Shepard Wong	Jul 10th, 2008 12:36:36 PM
Is that all it takes to become the "it" director being linked to every major franchise in Hollywood? Hulk was nothing special. The public demanded a mindless Hulk film with a lot of action and that's what we got. I liked it but not enough to elevate this guy to anything other than "Well at least he didn't fuck it up" status.
Who did Superman Returns Appeal too by Samuel Fulmer	Jul 10th, 2008 12:36:37 PM
I'm someone who knows some things about the Superman comics/character, but I've never really been a fan. Don't hate it, just never got into it. Are Superman Returns fans Superman fans or Brian Singer fans, or something else?
I'M ALL FOR BAY DIRECTING THIS. by ingloriousjedi	Jul 10th, 2008 12:37:27 PM
FUCK SUPERMAN, AT LEAST ID SEE SHIT BLOWING UP. WASTE THIS ONE TO A BAY/SUPERMAN EXPERIMENT, OF SUPERCOOL SHITNESS.. THAT'S WHAT BAY IS, SUPER COOL SHITNESS.
James Cameron by Samuel Fulmer	Jul 10th, 2008 12:38:53 PM
Probably the only living director whose name attached to a Superman movie would make me care.
And 20 minutes later......... by santi01	Jul 10th, 2008 12:40:19 PM
eggsalad comes up with this gem of a comeback "wacking your little enchilada to some stank unibrowed, beans breath cunt". C'mon man that took 20 minutes? Retarded handle for a fuckin retard!
FUCK YOU EGGSALAD by ingloriousjedi	Jul 10th, 2008 12:41:31 PM

Samuel Fulmer: by Zerath	Jul 10th, 2008 12:45:17 PM
It depends the type of Superman fan, I guess. The Superman comics are quite enjoyable to me and been following it for years - with saying that, I loved Superman Returns. One of the better comic movies, imo.
I just like how he's a Christ figure by Alkeoholic77	Jul 10th, 2008 12:45:20 PM
even though he was created by two jews.
I was at a Hollywood party, Brian Singer was drunk by ScriptGirl00	Jul 10th, 2008 12:47:09 PM
And told me I had the best cunt in the room... Someone had told Brian I was into 'swinging', which I am ;) Which made him think he had the right to talk to me that way. I said 'you just think I'm a piece of ass don't you'. He looked at me with a snobbish look, took a sip of his champagne and walked off, gave a high five to some Hollywood suit.
ScriptGirl? by Zerath	Jul 10th, 2008 12:50:15 PM
Is that the proper ScriptGirl or a fake one? If it's the proper - why isn't she in black? We need to fix that, Harry.
um, Jesus wasn't the first Christ figure, you know by oisin5199	Jul 10th, 2008 12:51:47 PM
let's see, Osiris, Dionysus, Orpheus, Mithras, Odin, Prometheus, Dummuzi, the list goes on. Anyway, Siegel and Shuster created Superman as a middle class rural immigrant passing as an urban American, defending the 'little guy' and promoting the causes of Liberalism and the New Deal. The Christ stuff came later by other writers. And I think it's really more of a solar deity thing (which Christ is an example of).
Why I didn't like Superman Returns by Samuel Fulmer	Jul 10th, 2008 12:53:51 PM
I felt it was extremely boring, and this is coming from someone whose favorite Kubrick film is Barry Lyndon. To me that's what it boilded down to. Like I said I feel no big connection to the comics, so the stuff that was changed didn't matter to me.
Not sure about Singer Stories by Samuel Fulmer	Jul 10th, 2008 12:58:20 PM
but there's plenty of Ratner ones floating around the industry.
Eggsalad by santi01	Jul 10th, 2008 12:58:22 PM
I'm sitting in a great big office with NO boss shitting on me all day, so I'm able to sit here and waste my day talking to children like you. While you cower and and tab screens to not get caught. Sounds like you dont have much in the way of a career my lil gay friend.
We do agree on one thing tho...... by santi01	Jul 10th, 2008 12:59:37 PM
Scriptgirl is definitly a WHORE! Sure you dont go home with with big time Hollywood directors, gay or not. Bust out another rail there cokehead!
Yah, Millar's got a really good track record on Superman predict by rev_skarekroe	Jul 10th, 2008 01:00:52 PM
So, yeah.
Samuel Fulmer: by Zerath	Jul 10th, 2008 01:00:55 PM
The reason I enjoyed it so much was it really got the character down - with conflicting realities. Yes, he can tear through a persons chest but he won't. He has all these amazing abilities but he refuses to use them in fear of what could happen to the people around him. The movie people want to see (along with me) would be Death of Superman. A cinematic adventure where Doomsday and Supes pound the living shit out of each other until both are dead. Main issue with this being the amount of blood that would go in to the final fight production and rating issue from there out. - Closing scene - Supes funeral, camera pans out and turns around to see Metropolis. On a park path you'd see a man in a gigantic steel suit stopping a robbery. Hammer in hand. It'd be that little nudge for geeks while letting us know there is more to that universe even if Kal-el is gone for the briefest of moments.
Only need 124 and 3/4 more pages Zerath by ScriptGirl00	Jul 10th, 2008 01:04:17 PM
$$$ Waits at the end of the rainbow...;)
Leterrier is a fucking HACK by judge dredds fresh undies	Jul 10th, 2008 01:04:25 PM
I wouldn't want him anywhere near a fucking Alien movie although saying that hes fucking Scorsese compared to Paul wank stain Anderson.
Zerath-Death Of Superman by Samuel Fulmer	Jul 10th, 2008 01:05:48 PM
That's probably the best ready made story they could go with.
EGGSALAD IS THE NEXT COLUMBINE by ingloriousjedi	Jul 10th, 2008 01:07:16 PM
PLEASE DON'T SHOOT YOUR BOSS EGGSALAD, THINK ABOUT HIS FAMILY.
Fuck the Frog by Geekgasm	Jul 10th, 2008 01:11:25 PM
Singer's Superman was better than Leterrier's Hulk.
I've never seen Superman Returns by hank henshaw	Jul 10th, 2008 01:14:44 PM
and never will. I always had my reserves after Bryan Singer was announced as the director for the new Superman movie, and even more so after rumors started to pop that there was going to be a super-son and it was going to be a semi-sequel to the Donner movies (which were ok, but damn it, are from 30 years ago!). Then, after I saw the first full trailer, and saw there was absolutely nothing indicating that it was going to be an action scene in the whole movie I said "Fuck it!". Superman first started in a magazine called ACTION Comics, not "Chick-Flick Comics". The fact that Bryan Singer went on record to say that he intended Superman Returns to be the chick-flick of superhero movies is enough evidence that he has no clue about Superman, and never even read a Supeman comic in his life. Which is cool and all, but please don't do a Superman movie if you don't give a shit about the character.
A Scot & a Frenchman doing Superman? by Circean6	Jul 10th, 2008 01:14:59 PM
So Mark Millar wasn't happy destroying everything about Captian America in Civil War so he's also got to get his anti-american/ant-superhero claws into this as well? Oh Brudda...
Please no Death of Superman storyline by Rickey Henderson	Jul 10th, 2008 01:15:04 PM
The cartoon version failed miserably at doing it justice. If they were going to do it properly, they'd include the complete story arc: a long time of no Supes and all four imposter supermen. If they're going to give Rickey yet another watered down and condensed Death of Superman story, Rickey is not on board. Besides, aren't there a bazillion other villans in the Superman universe they can use instead of Doomsday? Imagine Nolan having Bane as the main bad guy in TDK. That wouldn't make much sense, would it?
ScriptGirl: by Zerath	Jul 10th, 2008 01:15:19 PM
That's the issue - not really a dialog writer. Description all day long? Simple. And - I know of no one that reads scripts, etc, etc. Maybe I'll try out a Death of Superman script... mmhmmm
Superman is... by SpawnofAchilles	Jul 10th, 2008 01:15:39 PM
fucking boring, there shouldnt be a sequel because the character is BULLSHIT Batman/Spiderman/Ironman is all you need friends
Super-Man is lame by Pum-Spak	Jul 10th, 2008 01:17:40 PM
Super-man is lame, and so will be any movie he is in. Hulk would pwn him in the comics just as Hulk has recently smashed him in the box office.
Three words (well two words and a suffix): by UltimaRex	Jul 10th, 2008 01:17:43 PM
Pre. Production. Poker. That's all it is. WB is trying to force MOS forward.
On second thought... by JustThisGuy	Jul 10th, 2008 01:18:25 PM
The more and more I think about this the less and less plausible it sounds. Think about it. Why would a studio on the verge of potentially redefining what a comic book movie can be, with The Dark Knight, even consider giving the reins of its other flagship property to the director of Transporter and The Incredible Made-For-TV Hulk?
superman returns sequel writes itself by Aquanaut	Jul 10th, 2008 01:19:52 PM
take a cue from the cartoon and bring in brainiac as a kryptonian a.i. then, have superman defeat him about halfway through the movie only to discover that brainiac has used nanotech viruses to infect superman's son, jason which..taking a cue from the comics have matured him to adulthood. superman is then forced to fight his brainiac-possessed son, testing how far he will go to protect humanity in a fight that is both visually stunning and emotionally stirring.
ingloriousjedi by santi01	Jul 10th, 2008 01:19:54 PM
An enemy of my enemy is my friend. I see you also find eggsalad to be a worthless smelly, dirty, sweaty vagina!
Clancy Brown should be Lex Luthor. by Pops Freshemeyer	Jul 10th, 2008 01:21:37 PM
And Lex Luthor shouldn't be a fucking idiot like we got in the Donner/Singer movies. That is all.
MUTT WILLIAMS and his ADVENTURES in FELLATIO by shogunshin	Jul 10th, 2008 01:25:15 PM

Superman by Nolan... by hank henshaw	Jul 10th, 2008 01:28:05 PM
Superman wouldn't fly, cause it's not realistic at all. Maybe he would make him very strong, kinda like those guys in ESPN that compete for the title of the World's Strongest Man or something like that, but not much stronger than that, just not believable. Bright colored suit, and a cape? WTF? No, can't have that. Alien, from another planet? maybe alien from another country, say... Canada, to pay homage to Siegel and Shuster. Heat vision? Freezing breath? Super-hearing? Nah, give him a gun and a spy kit. I don't know if Nolan would be a good fit for Superman, unless he took a radically different approach from what he did with Batman.
Spacey/Routh weren't the problem in SR by Rickey Henderson	Jul 10th, 2008 01:32:55 PM
Both were well cast and they turned in perfectly fine performances for their characters. The problem was the lack of heroic action: all Singer's Superman does is lift things or catch things. Whoop-dee-fcuking-doo. As X-Men demonstrated, Singer direct action scenes for shit.
Surprised no one has mentioned Del Toro... by Darth Macchio	Jul 10th, 2008 01:35:51 PM
...I know he's gonna be busy for a while but maybe the time in the Hobbit production will give the rest of the world time to forget SR and Singer's slavish need to give some sort of send off to Donner (who, admittedly, did an almost perfect job capturing Supes as a character but I still hate a bumbling, comical Lex Luthor who surrounds himself with incompetent morons..how is that a foil to a 'walking, talking God' character like Supes?). The best Luthor example has been ongoing for years now...Rosenbaum's Luthor portrayal on Smallville; arguably the only brilliantly good thing in that series. And for the love of Christmas, big boobs, and edible panties, no more god damn bullshit Real Estate plots...please?
So long as there's no more homosexual subtext. by alucardvsdracula	Jul 10th, 2008 01:36:46 PM
Sure Brian we get the fact that you're Gay, we get the fact that all your heroes are stuggling with their inner demons (read Gay), and we get that it was really you Brandon Routh was portraying in his skimpy, tight, off-red, tight, off-blue, tight, suit with a small "s" (read small dick). So now that's out of your system - and someone else can pick up the pieces of the homosexual trainwreck that was "Superman Retards" - you can go on to more challenging and thought provoking movies like possibly a remake of "Fright Night" which has absolutely NO HOMOSEXUAL SUBTEXT WHATSOEVER. I look forward to your next venture, you sexy, sweet thing.
i dont really care to see another superman by BMacSmith	Jul 10th, 2008 01:37:08 PM
unless maybe its a mega budget movie with a planet destroying super threat. Even then i'm not sure if that would interest me. It would probably be just another Superman Lifts Things.
new update... by JustThisGuy	Jul 10th, 2008 01:37:15 PM
I'm looking at the banner and it says New Update 1:14 MP CST, and yet I don't see anything that I didn't see an hour ago when I first opened this page. Something wrong with my browser?
Gay Perspective Ruining Superman Returns by preacherhunter	Jul 10th, 2008 01:40:28 PM
I've read several posters above and have to agree....Singer's gay perspective, while appropriate for outcasts like the X-Men, has no place in the world of Superman. Interesting that he did a great job casting boyfriend, male stripper-like Brandon Routh as Clark/Kal-el, but completle missed the boat with Lois Lane. Most gay guys wouldn't know where to begin in casting a hottie like Lois Lane and Singer failed misrealy. I say give the franchise to a real man like Guy Ritchie and see what happens.
Do ALien 5 by FILMFUNK	Jul 10th, 2008 01:41:58 PM
Have Sigourney as an ancestor of Ripley, she goes on a space cruise in her old age like a sea cruise but you know in space when suddenly a worm hole opens up and they are transported to LVsomething5 where the aliens are all shagging and she has to kick ass with a walking stick and then what do you know the original ship from ALien begins it's landing to check out the beacon signal distress thing and squashes Old Ripley under it's landing gear THE END
DAMN! by dingus khan	Jul 10th, 2008 01:47:31 PM
i still haven't seen "Shriek 1-4"...
They should cast Barack Obama as Clark Kent/ Superman by trombone	Jul 10th, 2008 01:49:23 PM
You know it to be true.
"Not if it's with Shia." by fiester	Jul 10th, 2008 01:50:04 PM
I love this guy. Give him Superman for a total reboot now. Let Singer go do some indie movie about gay cowboys eating pudding or something.
EGGSALAD by ingloriousjedi	Jul 10th, 2008 01:51:03 PM
You have to work in your shitty job everyday, day in and day out. Will you ever quit? No. Will you ever move up in the world? No. Will you get more angry at your situation and inability to display any sense of accomplishment? Yes.
You know... by Rickey Henderson	Jul 10th, 2008 01:52:10 PM
...it sure would be dandy if just one Superman Returns TB didn't devolve into fanboy bitching about Singer's sexuality.
Give Supes to the Wachowskis by Wed Vid Guy	Jul 10th, 2008 01:53:11 PM
Say what you will about the Matrix sequels, but the Brothers Wachowski fucking GET the superhero thing. And Speed Racer showed that they can do popcorn movies with the best of them. Too bad nobody showed up for the best movie of the summer to see that for themselves. Seriously, I can't think of a better directing team. They'd knock it out of the park.
fuck it: John Waters to direct next Superman movie! by Rickey Henderson	Jul 10th, 2008 01:53:53 PM
Starring Barney Frank as the man of steel! Would that make you fuckwits happy?
AGREES WITH DEVILCAT by ingloriousjedi	Jul 10th, 2008 02:02:23 PM
THATS ALL THIS MOVIE DESERVES TO BE. SUPERMAN, DIRECTED BY MICHAEL BAY - SUPERMAN BATTLES A FLEET OF ANDROID ROBOTS ATTACKING EARTH IN ODER TO HARVE

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