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AAAAaaargh!!! Re: Non-John Carpenter Remake of CREATURE FROM THE BLACK LAGOON!!!

Knee Jerk? Well, You're Half Right... by Anton_Sirius	Jun 7th, 1999 05:30:07 AM
First off, Harry, the chances of a studio green-lighting a John Carpenter project- great as the man is, we all know what his commercial track record is- over a Sommers version of the same story is, oh, about nil, so you might as well give up that little fantasy right now. Second, everything you just asked for in a monster THE MUMMY HAD! Whatever problems the Mummy may have had, a lightweight villain sure as hell wasn't one of them. The main hero characters weren't very well fleshed out (and weren't very smart anyway- let's see, Imhotep is after Rachel Weisz, and he's afraid of cats, so why not just lock her in a ROOM FULL OF CATS! Jesus, guys, it's Cairo- you can't walk ten feet without tripping over a cat. Use your frickin' heads), the comic relief did threaten to derail the movie at times, but Imhotep was the best thing about the film- and I'm not talking effects. He was romantic, charismatic, smart (well, compared to his adversaries), vicious, had a nasty sense of humor, etc. etc. What makes you think Sommers can't do the same for the Creature?
Creature Trilogy by Zcarstheme	Jun 7th, 1999 05:30:10 AM
Ak.. What a horrible thought.. Presumably in a few years time we'll get The Creature Walks Among Us remake with the Farrelly Brothers at the helm and Jim Carrey as GillMan..
Hollywood, get some f%&(#@$^ ORIGINAL ideas!!! by aryia	Jun 7th, 1999 06:00:45 AM
When the hell will Hollywood get some original ideas and stop re-making everything!?!?!? These classic movies are classics for a reason and, generally, shouldn't be redone. Their beauty can't be re-created for this modern-day society we live in. Not with studios, directors, and the such draining away good money on bad celluloid and audiences who won't go see a movie without it containing lots of blatent sex, violence, and/or multi-million dollar effects. We the viewing public need to let the a$$&*#@s thinking of these re-makes to either get something new or go home!!
Everything is NOT a Theme Park Ride by ardeth	Jun 7th, 1999 06:13:30 AM
F' Bronfman and his entire damn company! They desecrated one classic, why not just move right down the line and rape them all. I hope there goddamn theme parks bleed red for the entire summer. I'm too pissed to write anything else....
IS THAT YOU RODDY PIPER IS THIS ME? by carbone1138	Jun 7th, 1999 06:40:45 AM
it would be absolutely ridiculas to go with anyone other than carpenter on this one.i mean he has achieved his goal to be our generations howard hawks.every film he has made has been perfect.well aside from village,vampires,they live,mouth of,the fog.......ah screw it give it to stephen.
Where has Carpenter gone these days? by celt	Jun 7th, 1999 06:45:29 AM
I can't say anything against this Sommers guy because I don't actually know who the hell he is. But Carpenter, for Christ's sake: one of my all time favourite directors. What's going on in the movie business anyway? I haven't seen or heard of a Carpenter flick since Body Bags (which was pretty cool but very under parr for John). CFTBL would be the kind of film he could to perfectly. As some one said above, just look at his take of The Thing (from Another World). The idea makes me dribble with excitement. PLEASE let John do it! Who am I asking? Who ever will listen.
SWEET JESUS, FOR THE LOVE OF GOD AND ALL THAT IS REMOTELY HOLY, by CaptainBerryman	Jun 7th, 1999 07:27:08 AM
ARGH!! What the Hell is up with all this remake crap?? When will people realize that the main reason someone makes a film...in the 20s or on through today...is so that NO ONE ELSE AFTER THEM HAS TO MAKE IT. Is Universal that strapped for freaking cash??? Hell I'll send 'em some money. Did they blow all that crazy E.T. money already?? Hey there's an idea fuckheads!! Re-release ET with edited footage, digitally remastered...maybe with a happier ending with ET and Elliot moving into a double wide. Sweet GOD in Heaven! I think I'll just go out and re-make RAN and KAGEMUSHA with my Hi-8 and some Samurai sock puppets. We don't need remakes! Have we already forgotten the Out of Towners? We have? And why is that...OH I KNOW, BECAUSE IT WAS OUT IN THEATERS ALL OF TWO SECONDS. There doesn't need to be any damn remake of the Creature from the Black Lagoon! It's FINE as it is. Period. John Carpenter may have done a swell job with it if he could have made it...but he didn't need to BECAUSE IT HAD ALREADY BEEN FREAKING MADE! I have to go work on my F-TROOP script now. End Transmission.
I was about to chime in with the "No Remakes" crowd, but. . . by DarkHawke	Jun 7th, 1999 07:54:43 AM
. . . then I thought, well, I've enjoyed a couple of the Dracula and Frankenstein re-makes and they've hardly done unto the original Universal productions. And I saw and loved "The Mummy" so I'm not entirely down on the dude who made that movie. Still, the Creature from the Black Lagoon is a classic B movie (and if you haven't seen it in 3-D format, you've missed a treat!). IF it must be remade, it should be because someone's figured out a great new take on the subject AND can design a great new Creature. I know the movie producers (read "greedy motherfucking rat-bastards") only want to appeal to the kiddies and thus could care less about how things are done, just so long as it makes money. Still, from a fairly young guy who DEEPLY appreciates classic genre films, this has GOT to be done right the first time or it'll end up like the Bo Derek version of Tarzan (another character classic enough to withstand a bad re-make or two). Based on Carpenter's redux of "The Thing", he might be the best choice. But even with all of the above, why not just do something new? With all the horror and SF books out there, why not go to something new and different? Yeah, right. Might as well ask a movie exec to fly under his own power! >B-)
You people are waaaay too concerned about this shit. by Zeylan	Jun 7th, 1999 08:41:03 AM
Look, why do you guys get your panties in such a bunch over this stuff? So they keep cranking out crappy remakes. Know why they do it? BECAUSE PEOPLE KEEP SHELLING OUT MONEY TO GO SEE THIS DREK. If you want them to stop making drivel like this, then stop plunking down your $8 to go see it just so you can complain about it. Don't watch it. It's that simple. If enough people opt not to suffer through shitty movies, the movie industry will stop making shitty movies. The problem is that the public is stupid and will pay to watch damn near anything, no matter how bad it is. That's why movies like the Batman franchise make millions of dollars when they should only make $50 bucks. Jeezus.
Would you trust this man with your precious movie? by Fred4sure	Jun 7th, 1999 08:45:30 AM
Wake up and smell The Fog, Harry. John Carpenter is more of a notion these days than an actual talent. Sure, he was a rocket in the 70s and early 80s, but these days he's a soggy dud. Stop beating this dead horse and focus on a director who still has 'it' for your remake.
Development Hell by DAS BOOB	Jun 7th, 1999 09:42:25 AM
I believe if memory serves me that John Landis and Joe Dante both tried to get remakes of TCFTBL made. Ironically,like Carpenter have not made a good film in 10 years. My guess is that this film will follow suit until rumors of Brendan Fraser casting begins to rear its ugly head...but don't quote me on this.
John Carpenter's CREATURE FROM THE BLACK LAGOON by Rebel Scum	Jun 7th, 1999 09:43:02 AM
Like any director, Carpenter has had a few duds, but that doesn't mean that he's 'lost' it. I really got a kick out of VAMPIRES, because it was mean-ass Carpenter fun all the way. Carpenter will always be one of my favorite horror directors, and I say that UNIVERSAL should let him do the CREATURE remake. Sommers is a campy director, and I like that. But the CREATURE movie has to be done just right, or it will never work. UNIVERSAL, if you're reading this, don't go this route, thereby destroying the images of the great UNIVERSAL monsters.
Panic if its shot-for-shot-remake. by mckracken	Jun 7th, 1999 09:52:19 AM
to fred4sure, YOU DARE CALL JOHN CARPENTER OLD & SOGGY? Ugh... freaking MORONS! Well hey with the exception of Village of the Damned , Memoirs of an Invisible man and Escape from LA (which wasnt a bad movie in itself, just a total clone of the original) He's done a fantastic job of directing his horror movies. My whole take on Hollywood remaking their classics well kiddos guess what? All the people who post here seem to think that Hollywood has run out of new ideas but is that Harry's opinion r is it yours? Personally, I've seen an awful lot of people bitch and whine about these remakes "Oh my god, they've gone and Screwed up MY CLASSIC [-insert title here-]!" while just as many people bitch and whine about movies that are completely original. YOU ARE NEVER HAPPY!!! Second, aside from buying the original "Creature from the Black Lagoon" at Suncoast or catching it on TNT Classics, you'd be hard pressed to find a video store that rents it anymore (personally I didnt look for "Creature" but this was the case with the Boris Karloff "Mummy" movies). Now I'm not saying that reason alone justifies a remake, but c`mon people please remain optimistic about it (until you hear the words "Shot-for-shot-remake" then you have my permission to panic). Mck
John Carpenter can shampoo my crotch. by HellThought	Jun 7th, 1999 10:15:09 AM
Yeah, that's right! The guy sucks copious amounts of HACK COCK and you all know it! I would go through the lists, but in the spirit of short and sweet and also not to appear as stupid as the most of you who obsess over betting on dead horses (ie: Carpenter, Romero, Craven, and that other guy....what was his name? Hmmmm...Freidken? Yeah he belongs here. But, I'm not really sure, but I have a strong feeling it's the guy Harry keeps drooling on, to multilate HELLBOY.) Carpenter may have rolled a few great pics in his time, but trust me, he's begging for for quarters now. "Vampire$" being the most obvious example. That film had everything a kick ass horror film needed except for A: A Script. B: A Good Director. C: A good score. D: A Good Editor. Carpenter fucks up most of his films right off the bat with his idea of music that is more akin to Ross from "Friends" synthshit. His writing, ("Give you wood, padre?") sucks cock. His directing can be improved upon by anyone who can move a camera and talk to actors. The guy is a fucking has-been. But, this is all besides the point. WHY ARE THEY REMAKING THESE CRUSTY, STUPID, DUMB ASS MONSTER CHEESE PICS ANYWAY?!?!? In case you don't all remember and Harry obviously doesn't, THEY ALL SUCKED!!! Bela Lugosi and Boris Karlof and whoever the hell else you wanna drag out could out act maybe....Adam West....BUT DOES THAT MEAN THEY NEED TO BE REVISITED A BILLION AND ONE TIMES?!?? Of course, because as long as there are stupid ass geeks like you guys and Harry out there to constantly flog the "Classic Monster" Log, well these pieces of B-Movie CRAP are going to continue getting all the undeserved attention they get! Ooooooo! A man in a rubber suit after a scantily clad chick with huge tits! HOW ORIGINAL! Yeah, film it during spring break and the monster becomes a metaphor for College Freshmen. There are scarier things to make films about. None of your 'Classic Monsters' Harry, are frightening anymore. They're just a little more pathetic. Kind of like Carpenter.
Again, I say............. by RobinP	Jun 7th, 1999 10:49:27 AM
.........why remake a perfect film ?
a classic? by The Thin Man	Jun 7th, 1999 11:00:12 AM
I'm not so sure that we should be so quick to readily proclaim COTBL a classic. What the hell- go ahead and remake it...send it straight to video and cast it with Jeff Fahey and Shannon Tweed for all I care. I don't think its possible to desecrate a silly little b movie like this one, let alone worry about doing it justice. Just because Universal made it and it was released somewhere between the dawn of man and 1970 does not mean it should be classified as one of Universal's CLASSIC Horror Films. You wanna' see the classics? You gotta' go back to the 30s...Nevermind what the video rereleases will lead you to believe. B&W does not automatically equal CLASSIC. The best thing about COTBL was some nice underwater photography...other than that, its your basic atomic age spook flick, not that there is anything wrong with that. I have fond memories of picking up my 3D glasses from 7-11 so I could watch it on local late night Shock Theater with Dr. Creep. Fun, but silly and campy and not to be taken too seriously. There's no need to pay it the same respect as say The Bride of Frankenstein. First Tron and now this.
Classics by RMax	Jun 7th, 1999 11:08:46 AM
Such disregard for the classic. And our brave new freind "Hellwhatever" and his bold, brash, daring view. Yes, Lugosi's acting was bad, very bad, but Karloff was an extremely gifted actor with quite a range, see him in TARGETS, BODY SNATCHERS, BLACK CAT, RAVEN etc and he can go from one side of the spectrum to the next. The Classics have to be viewed with some perspective, love and a regard for context, otherwise we would have ignorant bigots burning the Mona Lisa 'cause it doesn't "kick ass" like Rob Liefield's drawings. Classic works are the foundation of any art edifice, you cannot rip it 'cause it ain't as cool as the ceiling... As for Romero, Friedkin (that's his name) etc, let me tell you these... they have a hundred times more artistic vision, more storytelling power and more ground-breaking work to their name than your entire family tree put together -including the bananas you eat for nourishment. Your opinion is your opinion, just voice it once you turn 12...
I interviewed Carpenter--- by Rodzilla	Jun 7th, 1999 11:28:19 AM
As a freelance journalist, I got the opportunity to interview John Carpenter a few years back before "Escape From LA" hit theaters. I asked him about the "Creature From the Black Lagoon" project and here's the real story. Carpenter had a script he was extremely happy with, and he was already contracted to direct the film. The producers ( one of which was Ivan Reitman, I believe) called him in for a meeting regarding the project and proceeded to inform him that it was their intention to make "Creature From the BLACK Lagoon," a blaxploitation, all African American cast comedy about a gillman who lived in a creek in the ghetto!!! Carpenter asked to be removed from the project, and was paid off to be excused from directing chores. The project then fell appart. End of story. The success of the Xena/ Hercules-styled, nearly Abbott and Costello level "The Mummy" will no doubt create interest in reviving the "Creature" project for another goofball interpretation. Ugh. On a side note, I thought "John Carpenter's Vampires" was a terrific, hard-hitting comeback film in classic Carpenter style with James Woods as the ultimate Carpentarian anti-hero. "HellThought," as he calls himself, should really grow up a bit, or learn to speak intelligently enough about his subject matter for anyone to care what he says.
* * S I T H P O W E R * * by Darth Maui	Jun 7th, 1999 11:32:33 AM
John Carpenter redoing Gremlins 3... oops I mean Creature from the Black Lagoon would be cool I guess. Personally I've never had a problem with people remaking movies and then having them suck more than the original classics. Take PSycho for example. Gus Van Sant's Psycho was pretty bad IMHO, but that doesn't make the original any worse??? Am I the only one who feels this way?
WHERE'S KURT RUSSELL?! by Uncapie	Jun 7th, 1999 11:49:59 AM
Forget "Creature"! Make a GOOD Snake Plisskin movie, Carpenter! Not a remake! But then again, "L.A." was nothing but a remake of "N.Y."(Look at the plot line, listen to the dialogue.) which was "inspired" by "ASSAULT ON PRECINCT 13". Ahhhh, originality in Big Studio Hollywood? No such thing anymore!
Yeah... by Josh Acid	Jun 7th, 1999 12:00:13 PM
Just look what that attitude did for ANACONDA.
Oh, puh-leez...! by Impetus26	Jun 7th, 1999 12:12:13 PM
Listen, I don't want to hear another complaint about this project for being "campy." I HATE campy horror flicks. But the way you fan boys love to shower the slappy, no-talent Bruce Campbell with praises as a screen god and what-not... I'm sorry, but if you knew that he was in it, you'd be totally for it. So just stop. If we're gonna be film-geeks, let's try to steer clear of double standards.
Hipocritisizm by BV	Jun 7th, 1999 01:31:08 PM
C'mon Harry. For a guy who likes the Evil Dead Trilogy, you're sure hard on other camp films. I say GO FOR IT STEVIE!!!!!!!!
Sommers remake by Sakla	Jun 7th, 1999 01:31:58 PM
I don't know if CFBL can be considered a classic, but if you liked it and worried that someone might "desecrate" the original, why not have Sommers remake it? You can't say he hurt the original MUMMY because IT WAS NOTHING LIKE THE ORIGINAL! It's safer to have him do his own interpretation than risk someone else actually remaking it. Besides, no one will see this without it being special effects ladden (sad but true) and Carpenter doesn't have the pull anymore to get a big budget film.
Re: Jerry Goldsmith by BV	Jun 7th, 1999 01:32:58 PM
I gotta agree with KS. If Jerry's scoring, I'm there!
Can U Say ..."Ridley Scott" by DaniTo BuRRito	Jun 7th, 1999 01:59:03 PM
I see no point in making a remake of ANY film if you can't look at it from a slightly different perspective - at the very least - and do it right, or do it not at all. Don't waste money and time... there are other ideas out there just waiting for their chance. Now that i've got that off my chest, How about Ridley Scott do Th'Creature? The idea is sooo appealling to me. I'm thinkin'Alien influence as far as action sequences that are possible and that good a creature to look at. I would play it serious, for sure. TCFTBL is my fave of all the classic horror monsters. heh I really liked th'3d version. :P Maybe I'm just too sympathetic towards the "bad element". shrug I did feel for Imotep. Brendan didn't fulfill my checklist of Indiana Jones traits. Am I truely in a class by myself. ...All in all, what I'm saying is remaking the Creature movie(s) should be carefully considered b4 actually greenlighting. It can be, in several different ways, an excellent draw. Money, casting and storyline. Please, don't pass up this chance. I've loved all the major budget remakes, with the exception of (were)Wolf - and that wasn't so bad the first time thru.. 'cept for the ending ...twas kinda weak. Anyhoo! Ridley! RidLey!
Can someone display some common sense here? VILLAGE OF THE DAMNE by Hairy Reems	Jun 7th, 1999 02:17:40 PM
The man looks like crypt keeper and he directs like a lethargic old fossil - anyone and I repeat anyone who makes a montage out of an explosive action scene is fucking cuckoo.. (see VAMPIRES opening Motel bloodbath). I'm sorry, HALLOWEEN and THE THING are contemporary classics. I wish the man well with the rest of his life - but I'll take any bet that he never delivers again. NEVER. What the hell is with these established directors who have nothing to lose - who could scrape together a low budget feature on foreign sales alone (e.g John Carpenter presents etc) and make something edgy. As directors get older and they've got nothing to lose and they don't feel the need to conform - why the hell aren't they making films with balls. It's like Von Trier says... when he's 65 he'll be making snuff flicks. What the fuck have you got to lose when you're an old man... I can't think of anything sadder than someone I once respected like Carpenter making a stooopid remake of a minor B-flick - you know what his version would be like. IT WOULD FUCKING STINK. J. CARPENTER - RIP
Creature by quiscustodiet	Jun 7th, 1999 02:19:25 PM
Just wanted to say
It's time to accept God, cause if true this is a sign of the com by paragonian	Jun 7th, 1999 02:54:00 PM
How does such an obvious hack like Stephen Sommers even get the chance to make films. At least Carpenter's capable of brillance, The Thing and The Fog are REALLY scary. Sommers should go write non funny cheesy sitcoms with Kevin Williamson on the UPN network and stay the fuck away from the film medium.
Evolution speal by Sly	Jun 7th, 1999 03:31:06 PM
I read part of the Carpenter approved script for CFTBL. Over all it was pretty good. I believe Stan Winston's studio was lined up to do the effects. John even had a model of the new creature made to display on his desk. My biggest problem was that the hero was an evoluttion spouting scientist and the villian was not the Creature but dim-witted creationists. I have no problem with using a film to advance your beliefs, but this anti-Church slant was not evident in the original, though it did try to marry the Creation story to the modern evolution theory. All in all as a hard core CFTBL fan I would love to see it remade if nothing else to not let The Creature Walks Among Us be the last screen appearance of the best Universal monster of all time.
Calm down by W. Leach	Jun 7th, 1999 04:08:50 PM
I hate to say it, but the three CREATURE films ain't exactly cinematic gold. And no, they aren't really any fun either. The true era of the Universal horror film ended in 1948 with the release of ABBOTT & COSTELLO MEET FRANKENSTEIN. In the 1950s when the whole country was gung-ho about outer space and the atomic bomb, a new series of monsters were born: aliens from outer space, giant bugs, and mutant creatures. Most of these films have a running time of about ninety minutes, but getting through some of them are slower than a snail stuck in molassas. These eggheaded science fiction epics basically devote the first eighty or so minutes blah blah blahing about how its wrong to fool with mother nature, that sort of thing. Finally the paper mache or zipper-suited "monster" makes its appearance, carries off the female lead (who is there for that sole purpose), and allows the hero (usually a "manly man") to destroy it. MYSTERY SCIENCE THEATER 3000 was right to savagely destroy these films early in its eighth season. Week after week it was another Universal-International stinker: REVENGE OF THE CREATURE, THE MOLE PEOPLE, THE DEADLY MANTIS, THE LEECH WOMAN, etc. The best of the Universal monsters will always be the ones who pioneered the genre, such as Dracula (so what if Bela Lugosi was hammier than Babe's rump--he's still creepier than Gary Oldman's laughable Count), the Frankenstein monster, the Invisible Man, the Wolf Man, and of course, the Mummy Im-Ho-Tep.
CFTBL by Garbo	Jun 7th, 1999 04:50:52 PM
They have been developing this off and on for years. I read it a long time ago and it is nothing like the original. The latest script was not by anybody connected with Carpenter. Yes, it has a high camp value, about on par with Mummy. But come on, the original is so hokey and dated. I don't think its something to be all that reverent about. Don't flog the peasants at Universal just yet. They're just doing their job -- driving everyone to drink so that Seagram's stock rises.
The niggers are coming the niggers are coming by weedo	Jun 7th, 1999 04:56:08 PM
everyone run for your life the niggers are coming
I Nominate Roger Donaldson by mrbeaks	Jun 7th, 1999 04:59:43 PM
Just kidding. But, seriously..... I know that I often wax nostalgic over seeing THE CREATURE FROM THE BLACK LAGOON in 3-D at the ol' Cla-Zel Theater, but, even then, I was fully aware that it was hardly a classic. I'd much rather see Universal have another go at the Creature than greenlight a BRIDE OF FRANKENSTEIN remake. Oh, and Leach..... true, most of the Atom Age sci-fi/horror flicks are ponderous, but the nuclear hysteria did inspire THEM, THE INCREDIBLE SHRINKING MAN, and that mayhem lovin', Tokyo hatin' green lizard.
Impetus26!!! Yeah, I'm talking to YOU!!! by NaturalSelection	Jun 7th, 1999 05:20:10 PM
"Slappy"? "No talent"?? Evil Dead II featured one of the most perfrect pieces if acting. EVER. Please rewatch The Hudsucker Proxy and come back to us with a decent post. Thankyou.
Get a freaking grip by pulpculture	Jun 7th, 1999 06:35:38 PM
After "Vampires" why should we think Carpenter has a clue? The Carpenter who made "Halloween" is fading rapidly into the past. And besides, after the debacle that was "The Faculty," Harry's jugement on what does and doesn't make for a good horror movie is suspect in the extreme.
Harry, years ago I would have agreed with ya but... by THE TALL MAN	Jun 7th, 1999 06:59:57 PM
Unfortunately Carpenter is dead. Believe me, you would be hard pressed to find a fan who loves and happily defends his earlier work as much as me. HALLOWEEN, THE THING, ESCAPE FROM NY, man, what a ride he had. But the ride is over. He sold all of us fans out with that horrible E.F.L.A. - literally taking the money and running even before they began filming! How much did he, Hill and Russel pocket of the budget? Over half? He hasn't made a decent film since STARMAN and I'm not even a fan of that flick. He's not alone, ROMERO, HOOPER, CRAVEN, they are all at the end of their creative arcs - hell, I felt even Cronenberg disappointed with eXistenZ. On the other hand, should Sommers be the new big gun for horror? ABSOLUTELY NOT! Carpenter eventually sold out, SOMMERS WAS BORN A SELLOUT. The only "horror" director ever to pat himself on the back for winning a fight against the studio and make the fright flick (DEEP RISING) lighter in tone and funnier! The studio was DISNEY for Pete's sake! This guy fought DISNEY to make a film less scary. God help us. Though the Kings of the 70/80's are dead, hang in there my fellow fanboys, a new wave of golden boys has to surface eventually and knock all these false prophets (Williamson, Sommers, the Weinstein) off of their precarious perches. KEEP UP THE FIGHT! LONG LIVE THE NEW FLESH!
Harry, can you please do some policing and ban this a-hole weedo by The Black Adder	Jun 7th, 1999 07:15:49 PM

Go Stevie! by Corran Fox Horn	Jun 7th, 1999 09:31:08 PM
I think Carpenter and Sommers aren't all that different. They both do campy stuff, and don't fool yourself otherwise. Carpenter's is a little more meaner and thereby serious. Personally I thought The Mummy was really good, I don't find scary movies scary, so what do I need a creepier Mummy for? The original wasn't some great classic, just a pretty good B&W suspense movie. The difference between Sommers and Carpenter is the former has made a lot of really good movies in the 90s, and Carpenter hasn't.
IF THE MUMMY WAS A REMAKE OF MACKENNA'S GOLD THEN 'CREATURE' IS by Reel Angry	Jun 7th, 1999 09:41:21 PM
What film will Steven Sommers base is proposed CREATURE remake on? His MUMMY was largely an uncredited remake of MACKENNAS GOLD, could CREATURE be based on another western ? Anyway regarding CREATURE'S previous attempts to reach the screen John Landis almost produced a remake with original director Jack Arnold from a screenplay by Nigel Kneal.
Sommers before Carpenter any day, you bitch. by Clock	Jun 8th, 1999 12:14:21 AM
What the fuck's that matter with you Harry? Jesus Christ here. Get off the John Carpenter tip already. Face it, he's useless now. Vampires stunk. Escape From LA stunk. Village of the Damned stunk. Stephen Sommers is good. He's got a sense of fun, he doesn't drone on endlessly with boring scenes like Carpenter does. Okay, maybe screenwriting isn't his strong point, so we can get someone else to pen it (although not hacks like Koepp, Jacoby, Strick, etc.) Maybe Jeffrey Boam. Or even Robert Zemickis and Bob Gale, some shit like that. But I'm telling you muthafucker, don't dis on Sommers, Okay? Deep Rising was ten times better than that fuckin Phantom Menace, which you fuckin loved, you even loved that fuckin Jar Jar. How does that help your already flimsy image, goddamn you?! Eat me!!
Carpenter-bashing stops RIGHT NOW....You IDIOTS at Universal by WesReviews	Jun 8th, 1999 12:14:42 AM
I'll give you this, THE MUMMY was a decent Summer action movie. But that is all it is. It was made by Universal to fill their summer slot and to fulfill summer movie expectations. Every movie John Carpenter has made, he has poured his heart into. You see a little bit of him in every film. In VAMPIRES, you saw his admiration for westerns and badass heroes of long ago. There are no cinematic heroes like John Wayne anymore. The fact that John Carpenter wants there to be heroes like that in contemporary cinema really makes me feel good that at least someone has an idea. CREATURE FROM THE BLACK LAGOON is my favorite old sci-fi/horror film of the 50's, and there is no one better suited to direct this film than John Carpenter. He made a bonafide classic with his remake of THE THING, and he can do it again on this one if you idiots at Universal would give a man half a chance. I mean, my GOD...you people gave Gus Van Sant (the biggest hack director of all time) the chance to direct the remake of PSYCHO! What a COMPLETE JOKE! You people shouldn't be allowed to make movies anymore because of that laughable injustice to everything Hitchcock stood for! Hitchcock pretty much kept your studio in business for a number of years, and what do you do? YOU SLAP HIS GOOD NAME AND MEMORY ACROSS THE FACE WITH A COMPLETELY PATHETIC EXCUSE FOR A "TRIBUTE." Give John Carpenter the directorial duties of CFTBL. That's not a suggestion. That's an order. He will make this film great, and he will prove all of you complete morons who have no faith in his ability wrong. Carpenter, Craven, Romero...none of these guys are washed up. Ignorant studios like Universal won't listen to good ideas by people who know how to make movies work. Sommers didn't make THE MUMMY a success. The special effects were what people wanted to see. The film is completely devoid of any horror at all. WHICH IS THE POINT OF A HORROR FILM! Just because a director makes a film that makes a lot of money, doesn't mean that he is a good director. Look at Roland Emmerich! INDEPENDENCE DAY made a killing, but GODZILLA proved that he is the worst director of the 90's...next to Van Sant. And what's this about CFTBL to a comedy about a gillman in a ghetto? Hmmm...that must have been one of those things that sounded funnier in your head before you said it aloud. Well, Universal...we're not laughing. Get your damn act together and sign Carpenter instead of a hack like Sommers.
dawn of the fred by king's ex	Jun 8th, 1999 05:15:37 AM
Attention K-Mart shoppers: John Carpenter sucks! I wish it weren't so, but it is. I add no new evidence for this argument as it was most elloquetnly advanced by that Hellnews guy,or whatever his/her name was. I add only this...I am planning a horror movie that will establish itself as a new watermark, a new standard for the genre. It's all about some jack-ass named Weedo who takes a hand held camera into Harlem overnight, only to get the shit beaten out of him by the twelve year old daughter of a Korean grocery owner....
Agreeing with The Black Adder about 'weedo' by CaptainBerryman	Jun 8th, 1999 07:53:02 AM
Harry, please try kick idiots like this weedo character off the talkback forum somehow. There's no call for racial slurs in this forum. You wanna say someone can't act or direct or write...fine. But weedo's comments were A.) unrelated to the topic and B.) racist and childish. Sure we're going to have our kooks and freaks on here at times...but this is totally uncalled for and should be policed. End Transmission.
Harry . . . You Fuck! by Finnegin	Jun 8th, 1999 11:39:20 AM
Clock, I think you and Harry should have sex together. Of course Zemeckis and Gale would be a good choice for the script. What an asshole. In fact, it could be called USED CARS 2. You fucker. Harry, you too. What the fuck?!
gosh, this decision is tough by j. doe	Jun 8th, 1999 08:38:39 PM
Let's see, who should take on the remake...either a filmmaker whose last two films kicked my ass, or one who puts me to sleep with suspenseless stories and unexciting action, but whose last films was, arguably, the worst film ever, and made James Woods look bad, who is great is almost everything he does. I honestly don't know why Carpenter is so revered, because his films absoloutly suck. Sommers all the way.
Finnegin, not again with you, you fuckin homo. by Clock	Jun 8th, 1999 09:30:17 PM
The Tony award for biggest bitch goes to this Finnegin freak. Everytime I post something, this bastard comes and tries to get all freaky-deaky with me and my ass. He's a weird fucker, let me tell you. Anyone who can decipher that last post from him drop me a line and translate it for me, cuz I think this muthafucka's smokin some tripped out shit. Anyways... FUCK YOU HARRY YOU FUCKIN HARD ON!!
John Carpenter by map to the stars	Jun 9th, 1999 05:21:09 AM
Leave John alone, Memoirs of An Invisible Man though a flop, was a good solid movie with decent use of effects, it wasnt a remake either, it was based upon a satirical novel which drew from the invisible man story, it offered a (now rare) decent performamce from Chevy Chase in what is his straightest role since Foul Play. Village of the Dammed ill admitt was poor, but still had individual scenes which were good, that film was hampered by casting and budget mainly. Lay off Escape from L.A as well! It may be an inferior retread of N.Y but coming out the same year/summer as ID4 can anyone say it had a chance at the boxoffice, anyhow it looked good on the screen, and Kurt still rocked as Snake, shame a third is unlikely (hint to JC if you do a third please lets not have another retread of N.Y). Vampires ive seen only once but i can honestly say its his best movie of the decade. It seems a very economical movie, and is entertaining. Anyone who criticises JC for not making films like Halloween and The Thing, today is just plain stupid. After Hitchock finished Psycho in 1960, did he make as good a film again? No he didnt, but does that mean he automatically lost "it"? No - his latter film were still enjoyable and exibited the qualities we loved in his earlier classics, and the same can be said about JC, just because he wont make another The Thing, dosent mean we shouldnt give his future films a chance, and finally....screw Summers his films blow, Deep Rising wasnt even 1 hundreth as good as Alien Resurrection (alright that film wasnt a comedy horror, meerly a horror) which was meely ok itself. As for The Mummy, well what can i say the scariest thing about that (other than the fact there caould be a sequel because of the box office) was Brendon "please dont watch out for that tree" Frazer
Weedo? by celt	Jun 9th, 1999 08:33:48 AM
I'm sorry, but was Weedo's posting written in acceptable language? I noticed that The Black Adder seemed unimpressed. I feel the same. Weedo: stop detracting us from the important task of talking about movies. Crawl away slime and spout your filth where there is a willing audience.
Nice Language, Clock by Finnegin	Jun 9th, 1999 11:22:01 AM
First of all, Clock, you're the one who started picking on me with my post on the TREKKIES talkback. Secondly, you're the one that started in with all that MR PAYBACK/DEATH BECOMES HER shit. And yeah, I'd marry you too, if you started swearing a little less. Lick your mother's twat with that tongue, do you? Shit man, you're filthy. And Harry can just go jump off a cliff eidelman for all I care.
Vampires his best film of the decade? by j. doe	Jun 9th, 1999 04:53:22 PM
Vampires was also the worst film of the decade. It was the most suspenseless movie i've ever seen. Carpenter couldn't even coax a good performance out of James Woods, and the rest of the cast was compleatly lost. The action just plain sucked. My finger was planted firmly on the fast-forward button after the first ten minutes of the film. Carpenter has one good film: Big Trouble In Little China. Other than that, his films are in the same leauge as Plan 9, except less entertaining. To even compare him to Sommers, who totally kicked my ass with Deep Rising and The Mummy, two films that, while not masterpieces, managed to entertin me thoroughly, is total crap. I wish Carpenter would stop wasting our time and money that could be used to make films that aren't boring as shit.
He might take you up on that offer, HellThought. by Wolfpack	Jul 30th, 2006 02:09:34 PM

At least we have Halloween and EFNY by Orcus	Jul 31st, 2006 02:05:24 PM

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