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by syn_flood
Jul 7th, 2008
05:34:27 PM
I like it...
Sweet! Going to B amazing. All 3!
by Prague23
Jul 7th, 2008
05:34:34 PM
Bring on the drama, darkness, great storytelling. Love it!
Fucking Yates...
by Judge Briggs
Jul 7th, 2008
05:36:08 PM
Such a hack. Order of the Phoenix was soooo hollywoodfied... why not shoot a shit load of footage from the largest book and then release it ala Lord of the Rings style...director's cut and all? We fans would it up... so I am really nervous about Yates fucking this one up too.
POTTER!!!!
by xcornealiousx
Jul 7th, 2008
05:37:12 PM
4 months? REALLY? How time flies. This better be marvelous!
I hope it's better than the last one.
by odysseus
Jul 7th, 2008
05:37:19 PM
I liked GOBLET OF FIRE the best so far, followed by PRISONER OF AZKABAN. PHOENIX was too choppy, and lacked visual panache.
All Potter movies are the same
by vini77
Jul 7th, 2008
05:37:51 PM
FFS
Harry Potter and the end of trees
by depalma25
Jul 7th, 2008
05:38:37 PM
Newell fucked it up, not Yates
by oisin5199
Jul 7th, 2008
05:39:05 PM
Order of the Phoenix was always going to be a tough one with its odd story, but Yates did quite well with it, I thought. Now that the learning curve is over, I'm hoping he does even better with the last 2 (3?) Potter films.
Who the shit is Newell?
by Judge Briggs
Jul 7th, 2008
05:40:21 PM
Hahaha
by kungfuhustler84
Jul 7th, 2008
05:42:24 PM
I think I stopped reading before this one even came out. There are much better books that could use an adaptation. The Dark Tower? It's possible. Maybe. Zack Snyder? Little known actor resembling Clint Eastwood? shot on location on all the deserts on earth? maybe
If they ever do The Office UK:The Early Years
by skimn
Jul 7th, 2008
05:42:26 PM
Rupert Grint is a shoe in for a young Gareth.
The new Harry Potter films need bush.
by Damien Chowder
Jul 7th, 2008
05:43:52 PM
Olde News
by Foucault
Jul 7th, 2008
05:44:12 PM
...
BTW
by skimn
Jul 7th, 2008
05:45:26 PM
No mention of the new Quantam Of Solace trailer? Sure, it looks influenced by Bourne and it looks like "rogue" Bond again....but damn, it also looks damned good.
The only way Dark Tower could work
by snitchseeker
Jul 7th, 2008
05:48:52 PM
Is as a cartoon, a really long, Band of Brothers length awesome cartoon. Harry Potter is awesome. I still think yates is the weakest (besides columbus)...they should have brought Cuaron back for the last film. Prison of Askaban was amazing.
Order is the WORST of the series!!
by performingmonkey
Jul 7th, 2008
05:52:07 PM
Yes, that's right, worse than Chris Columbus's first two flicks. I was disappointed that they gave David Yates Half-Blood Prince after the lacklustre Order of the Phoenix. They made the longest and most complex book into the shortest movie! My theory is that they got in a debut director like Yates so the studio could tell him what to do, i.e. make a short movie in order to make more money and appeal to the ADD generation. Prisoner of Azkaban is the one movie that does Harry Potter justice, and it did it whilst cutting out a lot of the book too. It's not about trying to cram in the whole book, it's making the book cinematic. Cuaron knew exactly what he was doing. Unfortunately Prisoner made less money so they had to go all ADD.
Ron looks like a dick
by SUPERJIM
Jul 7th, 2008
05:55:00 PM
What's with all of the gear, Ron? Also, did everyone buy Quidditch robes just to try out for the team when only 7 players get on and they already have about 4 of them? Seems unlikely and it's shit like that which takes me out of a film. No need to make stuff up for the sake of it, there's enough in the books to pick and choose what you want in your film. If they are gunna make stuff up, why make something as pointless as this?
They could never do the Dark Tower justice...
by loafroaster
Jul 7th, 2008
05:55:33 PM
...although JJ Abrahms is supposed to be taking it to the small screen as a series. I won't hold me breath.
Superjim
by snitchseeker
Jul 7th, 2008
05:58:44 PM
In a world where clothing, food, shit, can be conjured...I don't think there's going to be a shortage of quidditch robes for people trying out. House elf probably left it on their pillow the night before.
Dark Tower is pretty much impossible
by br1947
Jul 7th, 2008
05:58:46 PM
unless you cut a hell of alot of the first 3 books out of it. Snitchseeker has the right idea, even then it'd be pretty damned hard to do with justice to the character development. The only one that could really do a stand alone movie might be Wizard & Glass.
Kungfuhustler
by Crackles
Jul 7th, 2008
05:59:31 PM
The Dark Tower would be an excellent series to see on film, but that's no reason to not finish the Potter books! Did you even get to The Prisoner of Azkaban?! Cause thats when shit starts to really get dark and interesting! And you can totally tell Harry Potter had a major influence on Stephen King to finish his DT series. The title chapter page in Wolves of the Calla is in the same font as the Harry Potter chapter title pages! Totally an homage to Potter! Wolves of the Calla totally has Potter influence and if you're a Stephen King fan then that's reason enough to finish the HP series!
The HP films have been so meh...
by loafroaster
Jul 7th, 2008
06:00:00 PM
...not bad, bordering on good, but never amazing. They've been disappointing, each and every one, especially since the books were packed full of iconic imagery. Honestly, can you think of even ONE scene in any of the films that will be remembered in 50 years' time? Even the Voldemort 'birth' scene was lacklustre, and that could have been up there with the best baddie intros if it t'were handled properly.
If DK ever hit the small screen...
by Judge Briggs
Jul 7th, 2008
06:01:11 PM
Please put it on HBO.... can't water that stuff down... would be really, really lame.
well, to be fair Crackles...
by br1947
Jul 7th, 2008
06:02:24 PM
Wolves references Harry Potter directly via the "sneetches" thrown by the Wolves. Then again, they also look like Dr Doom....
What? No shots of Hermiones VS encased thatch?
by conspiracy
Jul 7th, 2008
06:03:37 PM
Magic panties those Victoria Secret Thatch exposers. To the magic Waxery with thee Hermione!
It's totally possible.....
by Crackles
Jul 7th, 2008
06:04:01 PM
to adapt the Dark Tower and I hope to god they do it. It would be best as a 25 hour HBO mini series but I don't think that will happen any time soon. I'd be down with seven movies though...they'll be tons of shit cut out but that's gonna happen with an adaptation!
Steve Kloves
by Prior Walter
Jul 7th, 2008
06:05:13 PM
He's back on this one, which I think is a good thing. And Bruno Delbonnel is the cinematographer, which has me very excited.
Great book, but the movie will suck
by Stollentroll
Jul 7th, 2008
06:07:34 PM
"Prisoner of Azkaban" remains the only worthy attempt at a Harry Potter movie that doesn't suck.
Wow. Harry Potter is gayer than a Liberace-Paul Lynde Sandwich!
by fiester
Jul 7th, 2008
06:07:50 PM
Search your feelings...you know this to be true.
25 hour miniseries could be interesting (minor Dark Tower spoile
by snitchseeker
Jul 7th, 2008
06:09:51 PM
There's all the time issues with Jake though, which is why I think it would be hard to do. He's like 12 in the book, or something, maybe 13? But it would take so long to do 7 books they have Walt (LOST) like issues. That's why I was saying cartoon.
Despite what everyone's been saying here
by Monkey Butler
Jul 7th, 2008
06:15:36 PM
Order of the Phoenix was the only half-way watchable Potter movie. Azkaban was ridiculously well made, and has set the tone for the rest of the series, but the script was appalling. Phoenix was the first Potter movie that actually worked as a film first, Potter adaptation second; all the other films were too slavish to the books, and failed both as entertaining films and as adaptations. Mostly I blame Kloves for this, so it's certainly not a good thing that he's back.
SPOILERS
by Roybertito
Jul 7th, 2008
06:15:52 PM
BELLATRIX KILLS SPIKE.
only way for DT movie would be to put W&G first
by br1947
Jul 7th, 2008
06:24:39 PM
Do it Star Wars style, start with the middle. Get the general population interested first. W&G is pretty much a stand alone story on its own and has enough hook at the end w/ Roland seeing the vision of the tower to justify 'sequels' (the main story). I'd love to see it done, but I just don't think it's possible. Then again, I was proven wrong about LOTR, I didn't think that was possible either. Hope to be proven wrong!
Steve Kloves is the one thing that DOESN'T bring hope...
by flickchick85
Jul 7th, 2008
06:29:47 PM
IMO, he has ALWAYS been the weakest link in the series, and I found it refreshing when OotP got some new blood writing the script. And yes, I think OotP was a stronger script than the others. So needless to say, I'm not thrilled about Kloves's return.

That said, there's plenty to get excited about with this one. I like Yates, so I'm happy he's continuing the series. Also, this book seemed to be the most cinematically-structured when I read it, so I doubt Steve Kloves could screw up the adaptation too badly.

But the number one reason I'm looking forward to it, as has been mentioned already, is Bruno Delbonnel. Even if the script does suck horribly, this should still be the most beautiful-looking HP film at any rate.

wow
by Jackie Boy
Jul 7th, 2008
06:32:35 PM
Malfoy sure looks like a cunt. And IMO opinion it seems like everyone's just going through the motions; the series is tired as hell and they just want to get it over with.
David Yates
by InspectorDoppler
Jul 7th, 2008
06:35:01 PM
Is the Richard Marquand of this series.
I think it's sick
by buffywrestling
Jul 7th, 2008
06:35:46 PM
that I'm marvelling over Malfoy's *huge* feet.
Funny how we've all basically been watching them grow up
by terry1978
Jul 7th, 2008
06:41:40 PM
And none of them are any less awkward now than they were when they started.
Loony (a.k.a Luna) Lovegood
by Sebilrazen
Jul 7th, 2008
06:44:56 PM
Those spectrespecs are goofy looking and I'm not sure I like the 'ooh look at the eyes' effect.
Damn You Michael Bay
by MCMLXXVI
Jul 7th, 2008
06:45:27 PM
Damn You Michael Bay
ORDER OF THE PHOENIX WAS THE WORST OF THE SERIES
by BringingSexyBack
Jul 7th, 2008
06:54:12 PM
and I have low hopes for this one. Mike Newell did a pretty good job with Goblet. OOTP was just a badly edited mess.
BRING BACK CHRIS COLUMBUS!!!!
by BringingSexyBack
Jul 7th, 2008
06:58:35 PM
The first two were truly magical. And that's what HP has lost - a real sense of wonder in magic.
Knowing The Dark Tower Series back to front...
by Fleet
Jul 7th, 2008
07:02:46 PM
...The one way they COULD do it is by ignoring Wizard and Glass altogether... the entire back-story of Rolands past isn't neccessary to continue along the path of the beam... 1, 2 and 3 are brilliant - Skip the majority of 4 - And then move on through the remaining books... It would be AAAAWWWWWEEEEESSSSOOOOOMMMMEEE EEE
If they do a Dark Tower series
by chrth
Jul 7th, 2008
07:13:08 PM
Use the epilogue as a way to write the story however you want. Just start Roland off with the Horn of Gilead, and bang-o, it's whatever you want it to be.

That said, we know Roland needs to substitute Browning for King when he earns the title 'Childe', so that means not as much time is consumed. When is the most time lost? After he parlays with Walter (and yes, we're going to ignore the whole Walter = Flagg = Marten = Freakin' Everybody). Why does he catch up with Walter? Because he drops Jake. Therefore, to "win" the Tower, Roland needs to not drop Jake. Whether the Horn is the instrument (ha ha) that allows him to choose this path is up to the authors of the series.

Anyone who likes Chris Columbus...
by Kasch
Jul 7th, 2008
07:13:15 PM
...never even understood this stuff to begin with. Internet geeks can bitch and moan with their bad taste all they want, but Yates and Cuaron were the best things to happen with these movies.
Wisard & Glass......
by Crackles
Jul 7th, 2008
07:13:52 PM
was my favorite before I read Wolves of the Calla and there's NO WAY you could ignore that book! Unless you just don't give a shit about Roland and his back story and why he is the way he is!!!!! Witch would make you stupid because Roland is the main fraking character and how you could ignore Wizard & Glass is totally beyond me!!! There is so much cool shit in that book!! Reaha and her creepy snake that she stitches together, getting to know Cuthbert and Alain!
Yeah, Wizards and Glass needs to stay
by chrth
Jul 7th, 2008
07:20:17 PM
If you're going to cut out anything, it's got to be the stuff with SK. Leave the past as a part of it.
Fleet, I have to disagree
by br1947
Jul 7th, 2008
07:20:57 PM
There is too much setup in 1-3 to maintain the general viewing audience, which is what you'd need to finance such a monster of a series. How many non-Tower readers are going to sit thru 3 films of character development and minor plot points before the main story really begins? You'd have to start with Wizard & Glass, it's a self contained story and sets the tone for who Roland is (line of Eld, etc) and WHY Roland is seeking to Tower.
Definitely One of the Best of the Books
by Stormshadow4life
Jul 7th, 2008
07:27:27 PM
This and the final book were pretty much amazing! Can't Wait! OoTP was by far the best Potter movie...I expect great things!
OOTP film kinda blew
by disfigurehead
Jul 7th, 2008
07:29:40 PM
Luna was the only saving grace. I hated Grawp in the books and they made him even more lame in the film.
br1947
by snitchseeker
Jul 7th, 2008
07:33:05 PM
No one cared why Darth Vader was Darth Vader...in fact, they still don't. Start mid action, book 1.
Luna
by ThrowMeTheIdol
Jul 7th, 2008
07:33:57 PM
Is the best character in the series. And should have been paired with Harry instead of Ginny.

They should do a spinoff movie about her. Who cares if Rowling didn't write a book to base it on. That kind of detail never stopped Hollywood before.

Actually, people DID care about who Vader was
by br1947
Jul 7th, 2008
07:40:38 PM
But were very unhappy with the craptastic prequels and became very apathetic after too much Jar-Jar action killed Vader's backstory.
That blonde haired kid from Slytherin house...
by Cotton McKnight
Jul 7th, 2008
07:45:41 PM
looks more like the lead singer of Wang Chung every movie.
Trailer
by azerphire
Jul 7th, 2008
07:48:47 PM
So when is the trailer going to be released? 4 months to go and not a single piece of footage yet...
Aww HELL NO!
by Cotton McKnight
Jul 7th, 2008
07:50:14 PM
Whoever was talking crap about Darth Vader needs to be pigfucked. Do NOT compare this worthless, trivial series of books to Star Wars. Episode 1, 2, and 3 are better than any one of the Harry Potter movies. And if you don't agree, fuck you!

Okay not really, I just had a flashback to Idiocracy (If you don't smoke Tarryltons, fuck you).

Malfoy looks like a pedo
by There Are Twelve Models
Jul 7th, 2008
07:54:14 PM

By which I mean a priest. Black suit, high collar, skeezy haircut and it's not even subtext. We all know Rowling's an atheist. No one in the Potterverse goes to church or ever mentions religious faith, and the only holiday is Christmas which serves solely as a device for delivering presents. I'm not criticizing -- it's nearly the only aspect of the series I like.

None of the previous movies were worth watching, nor delivered a single transcendent movie moment despite the millions spent on SFX and hours of viewing time. The only good elements of the series are better experienced by reading the books. The Potter filmmakers haven't earned the benefit of the doubt. OotP was the last Potter flick I saw and will remain that way.

Also I agree about Luna Lovegood. She was the most enjoyable aspect of the last movie and far more interesting than that simpering sop Ginny. Isn't it sad how authors can straitjacket themselves by planning too far in advance?

Dammit, people.
by jimmay
Jul 7th, 2008
08:08:11 PM
Order of the Phoenix was, by far, the best of the series. The one and only entry yet to actually make me feel like any of it mattered. For once, everyone stopped wandering around with wondrous 'isn't-it-all-ever-so-magical' looks on their faces and we finally, five goddamn movies in, saw the dark side of the HP world. Order was made for adolescents, if not adults, and was the first time I really, really got involved in the story unfolding. You want a bad Potter movie, look no further than Goblet of Fire. Aside from Voldemort's last-act cameo the whole thing was magi-porn with painful tween melodrama thrown in for bad measure. I really have a hard time sitting through it.
br1947
by snitchseeker
Jul 7th, 2008
08:09:58 PM
K, Let me rephrase, they cared, but the absence of the knowledge helped drive the story... the same would be true with Dark Tower, start book 1, no need to tell Cuthbert Alain Susan story first
There are twelve models...
by snitchseeker
Jul 7th, 2008
08:12:15 PM
Rowling is NOT and Atheist!!!! She's expressed her faith over and over in interviews, she's a protestant. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see the spiritual metaphors in the stories.
I really liked Order.
by Imagikafan
Jul 7th, 2008
08:13:07 PM
It's right up there with POA, for me. It's definitely the darkest film of the series, so far.
Don't know why we are talking about Dark Tower but....
by FlickaPoo
Jul 7th, 2008
08:15:41 PM
...I have always wanted to see them animate the whole damn thing. A long running animated series from beginning to end by the team that made COWBOY BEBOP. That's how I saw it in my head...tell me you wouldn't watch that. COWBOY BEBOP DARK TOWER.
I agree that Yates is no Cuaron...
by flickchick85
Jul 7th, 2008
08:20:38 PM
but if we can't have Cuaron doing the rest of the series, I think Yates is the next best thing. OotP got the tone/mood spot on. Yeah, there's less of a sense of wonder now, but hello, that's kinda the point. The books were about growing up. Their tone grew up WITH the characters, which is part of what makes them special, imo.

I can't believe ANYONE is claiming Columbus and Newell are the ones that got it right. If the books were actually like that, they would be the blandest novels in existence.

IMO, Cuaron and Yates are the only two directors who ever really got the spirit/tone of these books...even if they left more events out. Now if only they would get different screenwriters.

What I'm hoping....
by dvdhound79
Jul 7th, 2008
08:27:12 PM
...is that they keep the sequence where Harry uses a spell fron the book that causes Malfoy to bleed uncontrollably. It was a point in the book that was a dark, dark moment for Harry.
Dark Tower 4
by spire_walk
Jul 7th, 2008
08:27:57 PM
What is the purpose behind DT4? It's 700 pages of flashback and like thirty of actual plot progression. There was NO POINT behind DT4. Roland fell in love, his girlfriend died. He killed his mom. How did this advance anything in the series?!
first potter film I am truly excited about
by slappy jones
Jul 7th, 2008
08:36:37 PM
its the best book of the series so I can't wait!
Getting about time for a trailer for this, isn't it?
by Bulvai
Jul 7th, 2008
08:46:55 PM
They usually push one out well before now.
Order of the Phoenix: Best Potter Film
by zacdilone
Jul 7th, 2008
08:49:14 PM
Unless you have the attention span of a goldfish, which most people here do.
snitchseeker, I see what you are getting at
by br1947
Jul 7th, 2008
08:49:41 PM
So let me try & clarify what I'm saying. I agree in a perfect world, do it book 1-7 as was written. But think about it from a realistic production standpoint. What happens actually happens in 'The Gunslinger'? Roland is introduced, kills everyone in a town, wanders in the desert, finds Jake, wanders some more, goes in a tunnel, drops Jake, catches & talks with Walter, the end. As read, it's interesting, but translated to film it would just be a weird ass film that only Dark Tower fans would get. Most likely that would be the end of the film series due to box office returns. Now if you ran W&G first, you draw a general audience in, introduce the character with a self contained easily accessable story (w/ young target demo characters) that leads into the larger story and hooks the viewer. The whole point of Wizard & Glass was to build Roland as a main character, to show how hell-bent he is on finding The Tower. The fact that he willfully chooses to leave behind the love of his life to chase The Tower is the hook that would be able to lead the general audience thru the setup of the ka-tet and tell them where the overall story is going. The whole question of 'what would make him give her up' becomes the driving force to get the general audience back to the theater for the next film.

At least that's my thoughts, for what they are worth. I'd like to see it done in any form, I'm just not sure if it is possible.
1/2 Blood Prince is gonna be choppy!
by Violator90
Jul 7th, 2008
08:51:00 PM
Yes the Order of the Phoenix was going to be the hardest of the books-thus far-to adapt to a movie. Yes, they were going to cut massive amounts of scenes off the movie. But DAMNIT! Didn't the fucking suits learn any thing?!?! LORD OF THE RINGS was over 3 hrs and it made insane money! Pete Jackson did want the fans wanted and added more scenes making EACH 4+ hrs! And that was only 3 fucking book! The Extended versions are for the fans and they ate that shit up! HP suits should have learn from that and made extended versions just for the fans. That would have please every fucking HP fan! But Nnoooooo! These fuckers decide to shorted the longest book and just shove scenes in there but not flesh them out! BULLSHIT! Regardless of which one is one's favorite, we all can agree that the movies have to be longer and made for the fans just as much as for the general audience. Take a hint from Petey, MAKE EXTENDED VERSIONS! There are only 2 movies left (Deathly Hallows pt 1 and 2) SO DON'T FUCK THEM UP SHIT STAINS!
Harry Potter and the Elton John Goggles of Doom
by KongMonkey
Jul 7th, 2008
08:52:55 PM
just re-watched Order of the Phoenix
by zooch
Jul 7th, 2008
08:54:53 PM
Yates shows promise, he just needs to work on the ACTION. Alot of flash, alot of smoke, but not much real action. Near the end, when the death eaters showed up, they were nothing but black clouds of smoke! and when the Order showed up to save the day they were nothing but white smoke. I couldn't even tell what was going on! I never really felt like the kids were any kind of serious danger. The action felt rushed, as was Sirius Black's death, it didn't have emotional impact of the book. I hope they work on that the next film, especially with the amazing climax of Half Blood Prince and Dumbledore's death.
I said, I want Dark Tower done by the....
by FlickaPoo
Jul 7th, 2008
08:55:28 PM
Cowboy Bebop guys!...I won't be ignored!...agree with me or bitchslap me!...I....oh forget it, I don't have the energy. Never mind.
Azkaban
by Die_Hardest
Jul 7th, 2008
09:07:37 PM
Azkaban has been by far the best of this film series so far. The other ones I can honestly take or leave.
Voldemort Chafed My Ass
by Sidepocket
Jul 7th, 2008
09:11:19 PM
To clarify the religion bit, she is a Catholic but is not Dogmatic. Best kind of religious person IMO. Wish there was more of them like that. Anyhow, I could excuse everything about the film except for ONE....MAJOR....THING! And I am sure I am alone in this one but... They screwed Voldemort's Characterization up! Ok there, I said it! It is just not right. Nothing disappointed me more than seeing GOF and the rest of these movies with Voldemort acting like Darth Sidious on weight watchers. That is not who he is. Voldemort is a total psychopath who has no real sense of identity, with violent mood swings and savage thoughts. He is literally a person who is stitched together by fragments since his soul is ripped into parts. He is not evil because he acts evil. He is evil because he is unpredictable and scary. He is a Jack Torrance kind of evil, not a Darth Sidious evil. Its very funny, because every time I see Heath as the Joker, all twitchy with that high squeaky voice lurching around all creepy...THAT is how Voldemort SHOULD have been done. It frustrates me more because Ralph Fiennes is such a good actor, so I know he could pull something like that off. I blame bad direction. Hay here is an idea. Christopher Nolan is British right? I want to see him on this stuff. I know he likes the realistic stuff, but still! Oh, and where THE FUCK is Dobby!?!
Rowling
by snitchseeker
Jul 7th, 2008
09:36:26 PM
Is Protestant, not Catholic, but yeah, not dogmatic. Man, it's good to hear so much POA love on here. I've heard a lot of stupid people say that POA sucked and I never got it.
The older the casts become, the less impressed I am
by Shub-Wankalot
Jul 7th, 2008
09:56:48 PM
I miss the wonder and awe of the first few films in the series, as the kids come to terms with their roles in the fantastical world of magic, and taking us along for the ride. But as they've matured and aged...the magic seems to have petered off...looking quite mundane after all...
damn the suits for not signing up cuaron to finish the series
by Dr. Wordsmith
Jul 7th, 2008
10:05:32 PM
that is all and agree on all counts that luna was the only bright light on OoTP.
BRING BACK JOHN WILLIAMS!
by Nasty In The Pasty
Jul 7th, 2008
10:16:21 PM
Or at least get a similar orchestral technician like the shamefully underemployed Bruce Broughton. I can't remember a LICK of the last movie's score. At least bring back Patrick Doyle, who did a fine job on the fourth movie.
Dark Tower Needs 4 book, provides answers, fleshes character, gr
by Stormwatcher
Jul 7th, 2008
10:19:22 PM
But please: Add the Horn, do a better job at action post book 4, bigger ending, use a dog for OY instead of Oy, why? Because a CGI Oy will suck! Seriously, use my Jack Russell Terrier, he has the eyes and acting chops, really he does, besides unless you can train a platypus to fuck a racoon you'll never get it. Audiences connect with dogs. Seriously, mines awesome.
POA: Best of the movies,
by chrth
Jul 7th, 2008
10:28:23 PM
Worst of the books. Honestly, I'd say some parts of the movie were an improvement over the book (for example, Hermione and Harry getting Hermione and Harry's attention in Hagrid's house). That said, if you haven't read the book, there's a lot of detail lost that probably makes it less enjoyable for you.
She's as Protestant as Richard Dawkins
by There Are Twelve Models
Jul 7th, 2008
10:33:35 PM
The Potter books are the most slickly marketed literary sensation this side of Oz. You honestly think Rowling is going to jeopardize a multi-billion dollar franchise by telling some reporter she doesn't believe in God? This is a woman whose books have been repeatedly targeted by Christian fundies. There's no way she would stir up more controversy by admitting her own lack of religion or the complete non-existence of religion in her books. If Rowling is a Protestant it's the same way 60% of the British public are... in name only. You don't write 7 novels without one mention of Christianity unless you intended it that way. Again, I actually find this to be somewhat admirable, and I don't begrudge people who discern "spirituality" in her books (a keyword which frequently means "non-religious but not cranky about it"), but you have to call a spade a spade.
There Are Twelve Models
by chrth
Jul 7th, 2008
10:38:52 PM
http://www.mtv.com/news/articl es/1572107/20071017/index.jhtm l (remove spaces)
Or if you have an issue removing spaces
by chrth
Jul 7th, 2008
10:40:12 PM
http://tinyurl.com/2rtghm
chrth
by snitchseeker
Jul 7th, 2008
10:50:06 PM
Nice article man, pretty much somes her and the stories up...awesome stuff. She's a pretty amazing woman. I read this article about how this little girl was dying and Rowling called her a whole bunch and read her sections of the then unpublished OOTP over the phone. Every interview I've read, she's awesome.
HARRY POTTER AND THE CHAMBER OF SECRETIONS
by BringingSexyBack
Jul 7th, 2008
11:12:07 PM
Gross!
WHO HIRED A DIRECTOR WHO NEVER READ THE BOOKS?
by BringingSexyBack
Jul 7th, 2008
11:45:39 PM
Dumbasses!
HARRY POTHEAD AND THE SORCERER'S STONED
by BringingSexyBack
Jul 7th, 2008
11:52:23 PM
The magic is in the weed!
There Are Twelve Models
by Sidepocket
Jul 7th, 2008
11:55:24 PM
Yes she is in name only. She goes to church once and awhile for major events and such. She is also going to be buried as one. However she has said in numerous issues that while she thinks the core spirituality works and is wonderful, the other stuff is obviously the work of man and dogmatic. Kind of like Magic. Magic is wonderful pure as itself, but give it to the Death Eaters who are dogmatic and corrupted (KKK, Al-Quada, Westbourrow Baptist Church, ect), you have something rotten. And this is coming from me, an Atheist. She has already said all this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =t0H6g4lCF0I
I'm glad Harry was paired with Ginny, it pissed so many people o
by Jugs
Jul 7th, 2008
11:55:34 PM
...hee, hee, hee!
Stupid talkbackers and their misinformation
by Kasch
Jul 7th, 2008
11:58:34 PM
Yates had a 3-hour cut of the film. It wasn't his decision to keep it short. I don't hear anyone complaining about Cuaron who told Newell to condense "Goblet" into one movie and that book had way more material. BTW, Rowling has stated that she thinks "Order" is the best of the films and most accurately captured the characters. So suck it, net geeks.
Stop trying to make Harry/Luna happen. It's NOT going to happen.
by wendybird
Jul 8th, 2008
12:18:47 AM
And thank god for that! Luna is a bearable character in the books but has become UNBEARABLY over-hyped since the release of the last movie. PASS. Ginny, on the other hand, is a character that has been completely shafted in the movies, especially the fifth one. The movie character barely resembles the book character at all. BookGinny kicks ass and we HAD BETTER get a better representation of her in the 6th movie.
DID ROWLING REALLY SAY OOTP IS THE BEST OF THE SERIES?
by BringingSexyBack
Jul 8th, 2008
12:20:53 AM
What a freaking moron she is!
I CAN'T STAND LUNA
by BringingSexyBack
Jul 8th, 2008
12:24:25 AM
What a useless character. You can hear birds chirp when she appears onscreen.
Books are great, movies are okay-to-good
by fastcars
Jul 8th, 2008
12:55:03 AM
I love Luna Lovegood. And I'd like to see Earthsea, Lemony Snicket and Dune get the royal film treatment next. Yeah, I know, they made versions of them before, but they weren't that great. Also that Del Toro Lovecraft Mountains of Madness movie needs to be made ASAP. Especially before any wheel-spinning "In Between Hobbit and Fellowship movie." In conclusion, Harry Potter = good and Harry Potter haters = lame.
HEY KIDS, THE NEW MOVIE ON WITCHFCRAFT IS OUT!!
by sns
Jul 8th, 2008
02:09:56 AM
Probably not wise.
deliciouscowbell (HBP spoilers ahead)
by imascooby1985
Jul 8th, 2008
02:10:44 AM
I agree with almost everything you said there, especially Gambons "strict headmaster" approach to Dumbledore. But the Dursleys best appearance is definitely in Half Blood Prince when Dumbledore arrives to pick Harry up and tries to be polite and ends up hovering drinks above their heads as they stare dumbstruck. The scene in the book made me laugh out loud and I hope to God is in included in the film. Along with the sectumsempra and Dumbledores funeral scenes.
An then they made him gay......
by sns
Jul 8th, 2008
02:12:27 AM
what a very PC move
There are twelve models
by ThrowMeTheIdol
Jul 8th, 2008
02:20:30 AM
The characters celebrate Christmas in the books. Doesn't that count as a mention of Christianity? Harry got his invisibility cloak for Christmas.

The whole series is drenched in Christian symbolism from the phoenix to the snake.

Flickapoo
by Bricktops hammer
Jul 8th, 2008
02:29:24 AM
I agree, Cowboy Bebop Dark Tower would be fun to watch. Cowboy Bebop was/is a great show. They def know how to do cool gunplay. Hope you feel better now.
Sometimes when people say "Religious" what they mean is
by samsquanch
Jul 8th, 2008
02:59:03 AM
"Christian".

Happens all the time. When people complain that there's no "religion" in the book, what they mean is that there's a glaring omission of the dominant religion in western culture- namely Christianity.

There's religion in the books, or, rather, some of the fundamental archetypes and stories that inspired people to create religion; for example: resurrection, spirits, incantation, ceremony and ritual for the purpose of contacting or controlling spiritual forces, good and evil, sacrifice, worship, etc... when you think about it, the threads that the books have in common with Christianity are basically what they have with most religions, and most fiction. Ironic, since Christianity is the one religion that has criticized the books for promoting 'witchcraft', which, based on some of these archetypes, isn't really that different in it's components from Christianity itself.

I don't think it's any accident that these elements show up in Rowling's books, they are in most fiction, especially stories for children. They are universally human, which is why the people writing their own stories, that eventually became religions, share them in common.

Don't look for some secret Christian agenda, that's putting the spiritual cart before the dogmatic horse.

I finished Deathly Hallows..
by emeraldboy
Jul 8th, 2008
03:41:31 AM
Last night. I wasnt impressed. I thought it was messy. I know that she didnt give many interviews in the past and seemed a bit rigid, severe, frosty. But when she said that she knew how it ended, one lives and one dies and was so definite and final for years. I understood, because she couldnt go writing HP forever which is understandable. so when deathly Hallows came out, her decision to change the end of the book was weird. and add to that recent rumours that she will write another one in ten years, lead me to wonder was she got at or was a huge amount of pressure put on her by someone or somebody. I know people mellow and change over time. and that is possibly what happend but I found her decision to change the end of deathly hallows. odd. considering that she spent years saying that book seven was that last. WB obviously thought differently. they are not going to give up thier cash cow to easily. JK rowling should have just kept her mouth shut and wrote her new book and got on with that. She doesnt need to write anymore.
deliciouscowbell
by SUPERJIM
Jul 8th, 2008
03:44:06 AM
I fully agree with what you say about Gambon's Dumbledore, right down to the actual lines that annoy you the most. This is not who Dumbledore is and as far as I can remember he didn't once lose his temper in the books. He was ALWAYS a few steps ahead of everyone and knew almost exactly how events would play out ahead of time. This is absolutely pivotal to HBP and DH so I hope they handle him better in the next 2 movies. Richard Harris was almost perfect for the role, he just lacked a touch of the supposed power that you were always aware that Dumbledore had.
As for all you Cauron lovers, are you fans of the books? Sure the film was by far the best looking of the series but the guy took far too many creative liberties and left out far to much of the story. Leaving out the whole marauders storyline was a big mistake. I also hate the scene in shrieking shack, it seems so forced and alien compared to the same scene in the book, Gary Oldman was much better as Sirius in OOTP.
emeraldboy
by SUPERJIM
Jul 8th, 2008
03:46:58 AM
She changed the end of Deathly Hallows? How? All of the interviews I read said that she had it planned exactly that way from the very start.
Sorry for the multiple posts
by SUPERJIM
Jul 8th, 2008
03:58:40 AM
That first pic though, the is after Dumbledore is dead....Harry is holding his the Elder Wand in his office. Guess the films aint going to be as dark as the books, it should have been burried with him so....well you know what.
She added an epilog...
by emeraldboy
Jul 8th, 2008
04:04:28 AM
called nineteen years later.
Oh right
by SUPERJIM
Jul 8th, 2008
04:07:40 AM
I thought that was supposed to be in all along. She said the last word of the book was supposed to be scar, but she just rearranged the word. It's still in the final sentence of the book....I thought that was the change she made.
Yeah, needs more Watson bush
by photoboy
Jul 8th, 2008
05:54:24 AM
I'm glad other people here thought OotP was crap. All the reviews spooged over it, saying it was fantastic and Yates had got the best performances out of the actors yet, etc, etc.

But when I saw it, it was a very dull film and to be honest by the end, fuck all had happened. It didn't really move the story on or change anything I thought. I hope Yates doesn't fuck the next 3 up.
There are people on here who may not have read
by emeraldboy
Jul 8th, 2008
06:23:10 AM
Deathly hallows. So, I dont want to give anything away. It wasnt so much a grammatical change. it was more about the next generation of the potter clan.
Bricktops hammer...you know?...I think I do feel better.
by FlickaPoo
Jul 8th, 2008
07:14:04 AM
Superjim
by holidill
Jul 8th, 2008
07:14:09 AM
The epilogue 19 years later was written by Rowling after she wrote the first book. It was always meant to be an epilogue in the last book if she ever got that far. She just made some cosmetic changes to it as the books progressed. The crux of it remained the same. Harry/Ginny and Ron/Hermione were always supposed to be.
Every potter book/movie is the SAME
by knowthyself
Jul 8th, 2008
07:20:47 AM
GODDAMN THING. Ugh. Cannot wait for series to finish up already.
OoTP was the worst movie by far.
by Nozoki
Jul 8th, 2008
07:38:38 AM
Harry didn't get a really good look at what a bunch of asshats his dad's gang was to Snape. Umbridge (sp?) was a completely loathesome character in the books. I mean you really wanted her to get ass raped by Grawp. In the movie she was just kind of a bitch. I don't blame the actress either. Kreacher might as well not have even been in the movie. Same with Sirius. And we didn't get to see Neville's folks all fucked up in the hospital. I think that scene would have really illustrated just what an evil bitch Bellatrix is, and would set up Neville as the hero he turns out to be. Yates sucks.
holidill
by SUPERJIM
Jul 8th, 2008
07:57:26 AM
I didn't say the epilogue wasn't always meant to be. I was questioning someone else who did, I thought it was meant to be there all along and the only changes that were made were to the structure and wording etc.
Poor Malfoy.
by rev_skarekroe
Jul 8th, 2008
08:31:04 AM
Looks like no one wants to sit with him at lunch. In the next scene, he pulls out his notebook and starts writing angsty poetry.
This is just so cool, I only finished Rolands journey sunday
by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks
Jul 8th, 2008
08:33:15 AM
Holy fuck. That ending, although slightly optimistic, scared the fuckin shit outta me. All things serve the Beam.
I read them all over the last 2 months
by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks
Jul 8th, 2008
08:36:30 AM
As an avid King nut since I was 14(now 31), the amount of connections to his works left me giddy. It was quite simply one of the greatest reading experiences of my life. Say Thankee.
19, 99, 1999
by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks
Jul 8th, 2008
08:38:29 AM
dad-a-chum dad-a-chee......
Thankee Sai King for Flaggs death
by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks
Jul 8th, 2008
08:45:20 AM
twas all he deserved.
Dobby
by Bramton1
Jul 8th, 2008
09:37:12 AM
Anyone notice that in the GoF book, Dobby gets Harry the gillyweed, but in the movie Neville does. And in the OotP book, Dobby finds the Room of Requirement for Harry, but in the movie, Neville does. So I guess in HBP, Neville will spy on Malfoy for Harry, and in DH, Neville will rescue Harry, Ron and Hermione?
JK rowling said that book seven was going to be the final book.
by emeraldboy
Jul 8th, 2008
09:40:12 AM
She seems to have changed her tune. It was her daughters(who is 14) friends who kept asking her to do another one. and she relented. JK has said that she will do an eight book. But that it will take a decade. her words not mine.
I didn't read the books
by Abominable Snowcone
Jul 8th, 2008
09:40:22 AM
or see the other flicks. All I want to know is, has Harry masturbated yet? Will he slip Hermoine the beef-bone in this one?
splitting Deathly Hallows into two movies..
by emeraldboy
Jul 8th, 2008
09:43:01 AM
Doesnt make sense. NO really that is what they are going to do.
J.K. Rowling
by Abominable Snowcone
Jul 8th, 2008
09:47:57 AM
nude supine akimbo
Needs to be scrapped and remade
by ZeroCorpse
Jul 8th, 2008
10:16:38 AM
The WHOLE SERIES needs to be scrapped. They need to start over as a cable television series. Each season could be one book (some books might fill out two seasons, actually). Recast almost everyone, shoot hour-long episodes, and include as much of the books as possible.

And this time, don't fuck up the ending by removing important characters, changing details, and modifying motivations.

I'd even think making each CHAPTER of the books into an episode of a television series would be a great idea.

Why doesn't the BBC get their arse in gear? We have no damn Doctor Who for 18 months. Use the gap to start the Harry Potter process. A British-made version would be better, anyway, considering the actors they'll need to get into an 8+ season commitment.

The movies have gone awry. Characters are trimmed to their barest characteristics, some are missing entirely, and events are all rearranged.

Example: In OOTP, the DA were using "Levicorpus", but Harry learns THAT spell from The Half-Blood Prince. It's not a standard spell, and Hermione was dead-set against using it. Now, in HBP, what spell is it going to be instead of Levicorpus? Or will they just skip it entirely and gloss over the back-story flashbacks that are so important to the series?

They've fucked it all up, and I would much prefer they just start over with all the books now having been published, and focus on a weekly television serial instead of a handful of two-hour films.

Ron
by Series7
Jul 8th, 2008
10:32:36 AM
Is the worst kid actor ever. Terrible, terrible. Almost as bad as Freddie Highmore in Spiderwick chronicles (but I don't blame him, I blame stupid casting director giving a british kid two american roles). And the sad fact is, that that little shit Ron was probably richer then I'll ever be, before he turned 18. If I ever hear that kid complaing about not being able to get work after Harry Poter ends, or how he wants to be taken seriously as an actor I will hunt him down and beat the crap out of him. The only good thing that can happen, is that Ron puts all of his money up his nose and we get to see him in Celeberty rehab when I'm 60 and have had a good life and his was ruined. I say good day sir.
Is it just me . . .
by Nico Toscani
Jul 8th, 2008
10:37:39 AM
or do all of these movies looks exactly the same? The only thing that ever seems to change is the age of the actors.
Fireproof- You *are* in the minority.
by ZeroCorpse
Jul 8th, 2008
10:40:34 AM
Stephen King has said that he considers Rowling's work to be the stuff of classic literature. He's pretty much the writer's writer, and he thinks she's a great author and storyteller.

Of course, you're coming at it from the point of view of a jaded adult (I assume) who can't enjoy a book of wondrous things for what it is.

Ginny was fairly well-developed, starting in the first book and going all the way through to the end, we're introduced to her, we learn she has a crush on Harry, we learn more about her in the second book (she's a central character, to some degree), and then we get regular chapters and mentions of her throughout the rest of the series. She IS a periphery character, but then the woman you end up usually isn't part of the "main gang" you hung around with. She had her own friends.

As for Hermione and Ron, that pairing has been built up since the moment they met on the train. Ever hear the phrase "opposites attract"? It's true. My wife and I have a lot in common, but there are many things that make us completely different from one another. It would be rather boring to end up with someone who is identical in hobbies, interests, intellect, talents, and motivations. It would be like dating yourself.

No, people go for someone who compliments them, not for someone who mirrors them-- Unless they're an egotistical asshole, that is.

That Ron and Hermione end up together makes perfect sense. It's how it works in the real world. Just look around. Are your friends all dating clones of themselves, or are they dating people who have traits they, themselves lack?

No, Harry Potter isn't high literature, but as fantasy goes it's good stuff, and most of the top authors in the world agree.

I wish they stuck with one director for all 7
by spectrebeeyatch
Jul 8th, 2008
11:53:36 AM
That would have been interesting to see the change. Not only in the actors but the tone the director would have to change for each piece of the story. I don't know I think that would have been cool. But probably would have meant Columbus would have done them all. But I look back at the first two compared to four and five and I go "Maybe it wouldn't have been so bad".
spoiler
by smackfu
Jul 8th, 2008
11:54:50 AM
the new teacher is not all he or she appears to be.
I think they're pretty decent adaptations
by Tacom
Jul 8th, 2008
12:20:06 PM
There's no way to really do justice to any of the books in a two hour movie. Goblet of Fire being the best example. The book was WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY better than the movie but I still enjoyed Newell's movie.
You actually didn't like [HP book/movie]...?
by Darth Macchio
Jul 8th, 2008
12:27:48 PM
...and it matters why? Anymore than me or anyone else liking this or that HP book/movie matters? I've heard it said that music you don't like all sounds the same to you (which is why I don't get country music) so maybe you've got a case of wrong genre? Perhaps you should watch and enjoy more gritty and realistic stories? Keep your fantasy to the more "reality" based fantasy stuff like Batman Begins, etc? I'm not remotely being facetious here. There's plenty of stuff out there without you coming in and being what? Too kewl fer skewl with your 'Harry Potter sucks blah blah' rants? The thing is, if you don't like the books or the movies, that's great! Seriously, it is; conformity in general sucks and opinion consensus wouldn't give us any variety so this is the best of things! In fact, I won't even call you ass-o-lot or anything similar for daring to have a different opinion than me or anyone else. See how easy that was? I hate country music and it all sounds exactly the same to me; thus, I don't go on CMT forums and say such and such totally suck and aren't real music because they didn't do what I think they should to get where they are (not real music = not real literature, etc). If you don't get it, maybe you're not supposed to, or simply can't or won't. That's fine, it's not a slight on you or me...it's simply a difference of opinion and nothing more.

I agree that PoA was my favorite film and Curon my favorite director. I had my fingers crossed that either he, or Del Toro, would get the last few movies. Del Toro would truly be a genius choice and I think it's a wonderful thing that he's going to do The Hobbit but I do believe that it's a missed opportunity to do something wonderful in the HP universe. Though I have my preferences, I'm just happy to see these excellent books coming to the screen in any format and I'm very happy to see kids reading without immediately given the Scooby snack treat reward (like movie passes or game rentals for every single chapter read, pavlovian style). To read for the sheer enjoyment of reading is a good thing, no?

Why didn't they just make the Potter movies 2 at a time?
by Leafar the Lost
Jul 8th, 2008
12:56:33 PM
In my opinion, the seven (eight really) Harry Potter movies could have been made two at a time. 1-2, 3-4, 5-6, and finally the 7th movie, which is a two parter. They could have given the cast a longer breaks inbetween filming, and it would have saved money. By the way, it would be very easy to make a Dark Tower movie or mini-series. Either way, the odds are it is going to suck. "The Green Mile" is probably the best King book(s) made into a movie. Remember, the whole Green Mile book series was about 78 pages.
Fireproof: The pairings...
by mbeemer
Jul 8th, 2008
01:16:29 PM
...were driven by Rowling's desire to 'formalize' the relationship of the three main characters. They'd become "family" to each other and marrying everone into the Weasley family made that official.

I dunno why being life-long friends wasn't good enough, but there you go...

2nd best in the series
by Dr. Samuel Loomis
Jul 8th, 2008
01:47:01 PM
When I first saw Order, I thought it was crap, just long drawn boring crap, but then when I went back to think about it, the book was the same, now going over it again, I think the director kind of pulled that off nicely, even making a good dritty, dark undertone to the film, granted it wasn't the best, I still think it was better then 3 and 4. Now judging how good the director was at created a dreary sort of panicky mood, I think it was a good idea to stick with him for the last two films, we'll just have to see how he pulls off these two.
Dark Tower. Rule one. Keep that Mick Garris guy away
by Knobules
Jul 8th, 2008
01:57:20 PM
Geez his King adaptions suck. His Network stuff is just something to watch imbetween commercials.
Luna Lovegood is still perfect
by DOGSOUP
Jul 8th, 2008
02:21:44 PM
But Tonks is teh sex
Harry potter films are very important for
by emeraldboy
Jul 8th, 2008
02:40:15 PM
the british film industry.
another reason to sit through OOTP
by disfigurehead
Jul 8th, 2008
05:21:00 PM
Gary freakin Oldman!
My prediction....
by AllThumbs
Jul 8th, 2008
06:05:36 PM
...Rupert Grint will be the 13th Doctor Who. Well, maybe the 15th.
We can all agree, FUCK YATES
by Judge Briggs
Jul 8th, 2008
08:00:27 PM
I mean seriously, he didn't read the books? WHO THE FUCK HASN'T READ THE BOOKS? ESP PPL WHO ARE IN THIS MUTHA FUCKING BUSINESS! Some of the best books of all time and ass muncher hasn't even read them and he gets hired to direct some of the best of the books... that's Hollywood! Retards.
D. Vader...
by Kasch
Jul 8th, 2008
10:15:50 PM
http://www.hpana.com/news.1964 4.html "Some news about Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix has appeared in the latest edition of Empireopens in new window magazine. In the article, director David Yates states that he has filmed "a movie that's probably over three hours, so I'll have to lose 45 minutes in the edit." And anyone who says "Phoenix" was worse than the Chris Columbus movies has their taste so far up their ass, they'll never get it back.
Phoenix was bad! So well 1/2 Blood Prince!
by Violator90
Jul 8th, 2008
10:26:41 PM
Yes the fucking books are big but DAMN! You can still make a hell of a movie if you just follow the fucking books! I went back to see the first 2 HP movies. I say they come close to the books becoz the first 2 books are not that jam packed and the shortest of them all. But Azkaban, Goblet and Phoenix ALL missed the mark and BARELY followed the books, though Goblet was, to me, one of the best to be close to the book. But DAMN! Phoenix looked like it was rushed and too many scenes force in there. Those movies should be 3+ hrs each! There is just simply way too much stuff to cut out or just ram into the limited time frame that these fucking execs think is "good" just to make fucking money. Take a hint from Pete Jackson, let them do it for the fans and fuck the time. Fuck it! Let Pete Jackson or Del Toro! Hell, for that matter bring back Chris Colombus back to direct the last movies and I guarantee those movies will be what us fans are craving for! FUCK YOU HOLLYWOOD!
Gay Kissing
by muddyfunster
Jul 9th, 2008
06:41:13 AM
Will they include the kiss between Harry and Dobby from the book? That's the question we should all be asking.
Leafar the Lost re:Remember, the whole Green Mile book..
by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks
Jul 10th, 2008
04:44:51 AM
..series was about 78 pages. Umm no, did you only read one part. There were six parts released, each with about 80-100 pages.
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