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Wholly shit!
by MaxTheSilent
Jul 7th, 2008
03:51:31 AM
That sounds splendidly retarded.
This sounds like it could be the most retarded movie ever
by Xiphos_2
Jul 7th, 2008
03:53:55 AM
Now I'm somewhat interested. The sheer stupidy that Beeks wrote of makes this movie a must see while loaded.
President "Goldie" Wilson? Like the sound of that....
by SubliminalJones
Jul 7th, 2008
03:57:50 AM
And to think his political ambitions sprang from a simple slip of the tounge by Marty McFly back in that malt shop in 1955. First mayor of Hill Valley, now President. Well done, sir.
I can't wait!
by syn_flood
Jul 7th, 2008
04:00:09 AM
Emmerich rules! This sounds awesome!
wicked...
by blckmgk13
Jul 7th, 2008
04:01:51 AM
...or is it?
What the bloody anal fuck?
by Ladonite
Jul 7th, 2008
04:12:46 AM
Is it alright if I don't care about this? It sounds quite boring. It sounds beyond boring... I honestly don't care for it. If someone tells me something exciting about an 'end of the world' movie, I'll gladly give them a moment of my time. But I'm really pretty tired of them.

Unless everyone keeps saying "What's happening?" Now that's entertainment...
Hilarious article, Beaks.
by DocPazuzu
Jul 7th, 2008
04:17:26 AM
Well played, sir.
I dont give a shit about the film but..
by Fortunesfool
Jul 7th, 2008
04:22:28 AM
was the 'goldie' wilson joke yours or their's Harry. Nice to see Amanda Peet slumming it again after Studio 60's inexplicable demise.
Curious that the wrenching spectacle of 9/11 ...
by No Respectable Gentleman
Jul 7th, 2008
04:22:57 AM
... didn't make Hollywood think twice about BLOWING THINGS UP for entertainment.
Class
by OverDog
Jul 7th, 2008
04:29:25 AM
Thank you Mr Beaks for allowing us to watch the directors cut of 2012 at the end of the article. Although at 2:16 it was far too long!
EARTHQUAKES?!!! awww man, that sucks donkey balls!!!!
by Mike_D
Jul 7th, 2008
04:31:08 AM
I was hoping for a polar shift change at least. thats fucking LAME.
and...
by SnakesOnABicycle
Jul 7th, 2008
04:44:43 AM
Lloyd Dobbler, his newly re-singled ex wife, and their brood of annoying child actors, all hop aboard the S.S. Ark, fly into space, discover a warm hole, go back in time, and land smack dab onto some prehistoric mud house, in the middle of a Mayan village. They teach the natives about pyrmaids, and building things, advancing our technology to the point where after thousands and thousands of years we have destroyed the planet all over again, and people have to escape the earthquakes, and the volcanos, and the tsunamis, by flying away in large spaceships (maybe one's even called the S.S. Ark) that have warp drives, and discover worm holes, and then go back in time, and land smack dab in the middle of...
fuck
by applescruff
Jul 7th, 2008
04:50:43 AM
........this shit.
Marcel Proust
by Wired Earp
Jul 7th, 2008
04:51:41 AM
you know what i´m sayin?
"Puffy-faced Lloyd Dobler"
by HostileOrganismX
Jul 7th, 2008
04:56:18 AM
It's funny 'cause it's sad.
Great, great article!
by NoodlesHahn
Jul 7th, 2008
05:07:47 AM
So right after Klaatu tells us to take better care of the Earth, the Earth up and destroys us anyway. Ain't that the way.
What the fuck is the backdrop?
by Holeman
Jul 7th, 2008
05:23:41 AM
Seriously.
THIS IS THE STUPIDEST FILM OF ALL TIME...
by Ray Gamma
Jul 7th, 2008
05:26:54 AM
REVIEWED HERE BY THE MOST ARTICULATE WRITER ON AICN, APPARENTLY.

p.s. fuck off Emmerich and stick your patronising, moronic, juvenile steaming piles of shit back up your arse.

Black movie-presidents are sooo 1999...
by joe90025
Jul 7th, 2008
05:28:04 AM
It's time for an Eskimo president in the Hollywood White House -- President Lou Diamond Phillips
God bless Emmerich
by Jaws Wayne
Jul 7th, 2008
05:32:31 AM
For giving us these old-style Allen style throwbacks, I love 'em. Yep, story-wise they're nothing to write home about (just A.I.C.N.) but when it comes to heavy duty cinematic visual spectacle, the fella always delivers my needs. Keep pumping 'em out, I'll keep spending my cash to see em on the big screen.
Bodet speaks the truth.
by DocPazuzu
Jul 7th, 2008
05:36:48 AM
Never has there been a more shameless collection of slumming actors in one gigantic, fiery explosion of a movie than Con Air. It's so awful and unwatchable that it's utterly compelling. I own the unrated version and watch it frequently.
Welcome to earf, fucking kids and dogs.
by Motoko Kusanagi
Jul 7th, 2008
05:38:59 AM
I HATE kids and dogs, especially when combined in a PG-13 crapfest directed by such a moron like Emmerich.

Great article, btw! I laughed my ass off!

Holeman
by Stollentroll
Jul 7th, 2008
05:41:22 AM
apparantly a still from independence day. see here: http://tinyurl.com/63hnnq
Roland Emmerick making a bad film?..NO!!!
by Redfive!
Jul 7th, 2008
05:52:59 AM
All his films are shit.10,000 BC is the 2nd worst movie next to Pluto Nash ive ever seen...EVER!!
President Danny Glover.
by TheBloop
Jul 7th, 2008
05:56:42 AM
Wonder if he will try to pass a bill that would convert the United States into a communist gulag. Viva la moron! Now fuck off!
No Respectable Gentleman
by Kevin Holsinger
Jul 7th, 2008
05:59:27 AM
I remember, in the weeks after the 9/11/01 attacks, people saying that reality TV shows were dead because watching the Twin Towers fall was the REAL reality TV. Then by November, The Osbournes premiered on MTV, and became immensely popular for a while.

So the return of disaster flicks a few years later isn't really all that surprising.
I KNEW IT
by feebster69
Jul 7th, 2008
06:02:32 AM
I posted a message 6 months ago saying it was going to be tectonic plates / mayan calendar. Sigh. Hollywood's running out of disaster options.
President "Goldie" Wilson...!
by Prof. Pop-Cult
Jul 7th, 2008
06:10:11 AM
Holy crap, is that for real? Is Glover's character supposed to, unofficially, be the same as Mayor "Goldie" Wilson from Back to the Future? (And, furthermore, actor Thomas F. Wilson played Biff in Back to the Future!)
A little background on the script
by Alientoast
Jul 7th, 2008
06:13:03 AM
1) Yellowstone is a big super volcano. If it ever went off...well...we'd be fucked 2) Global Crust Displacement was a hypothesis kicked around to explain the sudden end of the ice age...basically the great imbalanced caused by the trillions of tons of ice caused the lithosphere to slip over the soft aesthenosphere, essentially causing the crust to "slip" like an orange peel slipping on top of an orange. This is a favorite theory of people who believe the "Atlantis is in Antarctica" idea, since it conveniently explains why a civilization could be possible there...it wasn't always that far south. On a side note, the Space Arks kinda remind me of that old 50s B-movie that got roasted on MST3k...remember the Earth was gonna collide with a rogue planet, but there was a 2nd planet that could support life and they made big rockets to bring them there?
Well I'll be PIGFUCKED!!!!
by redfist
Jul 7th, 2008
06:31:38 AM
President "Goldie" Wilson.
by raw_bean
Jul 7th, 2008
06:43:56 AM
You watch, he WILL be President, and when he is, he's going to CLEAN UP this planet!
so, when will Emmerich...
by cifra
Jul 7th, 2008
06:45:48 AM
... start shamelessly marketing his movies as comedies? I must confess that the only Emmerich I really like is Godzilla, and that's why it was clearly thought as comedy with comedians (Broderick, Reno, Shearer, Azaria) in most of the big roles.
Well...
by DocPazuzu
Jul 7th, 2008
06:46:06 AM
...it seems Xyzzy80's pretentiousness has caught up with him. Not only did he not understand the article, he also apparently doesn't understand the word auteur.

Look for more of his horseshit in the next Neill Cumpston talkback.

well, it looks like a new forum for b-movie conversation..
by Jonah Echo
Jul 7th, 2008
06:50:10 AM
if anyone else were doing this, I might be excited that they would deliver a trashy good time. After Godzilla, Day, The Patriot and 10,000 B.C. I've given up any hope of Emmerich making something work. At this point, I think Michael Bay has a better track record: I had fun with The Island and Transformers, while taking neither seriously.

To re-ignite the b-movie conversations, Solar Crisis anyone?

Great Pootie reference
by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks
Jul 7th, 2008
06:50:33 AM
You gotta sine your pitty on da runny kine.
The President is A black?
by GregoryHarbin
Jul 7th, 2008
06:59:37 AM
That is OFFENSIVE!
Emmerich's best film
by kwisatzhaderach
Jul 7th, 2008
07:03:21 AM
may well be Universal Soldier.
Yellowstone
by Shan
Jul 7th, 2008
07:24:56 AM
It's not 'if' it blows up again so much as 'when'
Damn right, Emmerich is an auteur
by Franklin T Marmoset
Jul 7th, 2008
07:33:11 AM
Who else delivers such consistently entertaining nonsense? Renny Harlin, maybe, but I can't think of anyone else. I am very much looking forward to the imminent DVD release of 10,000 bc. That one has to be good. My only criticism of Roland Emmerich: Not nearly enough roles for LL Cool J.

Also, I agree that black presidents are a little old hat. We've seen plenty of female presidents at this point, too. That being the case, I reckon it's about time we saw either a gay president or a little person president (played by Warwick Davis, obviously).

So, ya got ya blacks runnin' things...
by KazamaSmokers
Jul 7th, 2008
07:59:02 AM
a) You will edit that and swear it was a typo. We know better. b) It's "Bless the Beasts And Children". There's no second "the". Sorry to ruin your Dennis Millerism. c) Peter Dinklage for Little Person President!
Emmerich slammin'
by Jaws Wayne
Jul 7th, 2008
08:06:13 AM
C'mon, any of you who own just one(1)or more of those McFarlane action comic/movie toys are not to be takin' seriously when it comes to trashin Emmerich's hugely enjoyable in your face cinematic B-movie popcorn works not countin' The Patriot, which I actually think kicks major ass on all fronts. Where's Gibson anyway ? I miss the guy.
Franklin T Marmoset
by Series7
Jul 7th, 2008
08:06:22 AM
Renny Harlin is making movies for the WWE now.
Bless the Beasts and Children
by Jonah Echo
Jul 7th, 2008
08:07:15 AM
remember nothing of that movie save for the scene where the kids have nightmares they are grazing in a pen like buffalo, and their parents are shooting them down. Still have that image of the fat kid ambling nervously along, and then taking off in a fearful gallop as his mother caps him in the head and he goes down like a sack of potatoes. good times.
ark-like spaceships...!??!!?
by Gungan Slayer
Jul 7th, 2008
08:07:56 AM
Holy shit, this movie is going to be hilarious. I can't wait.
Fact
by Series7
Jul 7th, 2008
08:09:38 AM
Did you know that Uwe Boll is Emmerich's retarded half brother.
Making Contact ?
by Jonah Echo
Jul 7th, 2008
08:10:56 AM
I think this was Roland's first movie, and pretty freaky for me as a kid in the 80s. I'm still not sure I actually know what it was about(creepy mannequin mainly) but there is no clearer evidence that he wanted Spielberg's career than that movie. And the closest he ever came, popularity wise of course, was Independence Day. Somewhere in there he also did Moon 44, a completely silly and rather boring sci-fi flick.
Craptastic.
by Uncle Stan
Jul 7th, 2008
08:13:40 AM
Thanks for the info, Series7
by Franklin T Marmoset
Jul 7th, 2008
08:21:35 AM
I checked into it (ie: looked at that IMDB) and it turns out Renny Harlin is making something starring John Cena and a bunch of folks I never heard of. I don't know this John Cena too well, though. Is he funny? I hope so. All in all, I have to say it is better when wrestlers don't act. Except for They Live, obviously, even if Kurt Russell would have been better in that role.
Knew This Was Going To Be Bad
by Unlabled
Jul 7th, 2008
08:23:44 AM
When they announced he was rushing to secure a deal prior to the release of 10,000 BC. He knew it was shit and wanted to get the best deal before his next bomb. This is going to be horrible.
Mr. Beaks = Awesome.
by HoboCode
Jul 7th, 2008
08:30:07 AM
Seriously that was one of the best written script reviews I have ever read. Great stuff man!
The Noah's Ark Principle
by Jonah Echo
Jul 7th, 2008
08:40:25 AM
Roland's first movie, and one unseen by me. It was apparently a student film, but it sounds like there is less NAP involved in that one than this, with it's inclusion of star-arks. Another movie I wasn't aware belonged to Emmerich was Ghost Chase in the 80s. Another kid with creepy muppet movie. In my mind the pinnacle of his career is still Stargate, which was dumb and deriviative but fun and somewhat cohesive as a story. Same for ID4, until the Mac computer virus.
Excellent, another B-movie forum
by Lost Jarv
Jul 7th, 2008
08:45:54 AM
I hereby bar Memories. Fuck off you little twat.

Points of note that I cannot be debated on:

1) Solar Crisis is great

2)Universal Soldier is THE SHIT. Just for Dolph

3)Emmerich is a cunt.

4)I watched Mother of Tears on saturday. It is potentially great, but massively stupid. Even by Argento's standards.

5)Memories is a cunt of Emmerichian proportions.

6)Warwick Davis would be a great president.

The problem with Emmerich,
by Lost Jarv
Jul 7th, 2008
08:46:55 AM
is that his movies while collosal pieces of stupidity are actually suprisingly dull. This is not something you can accuse Bay of.

And Con Air is also the shit.

I missed one,.
by Lost Jarv
Jul 7th, 2008
08:48:16 AM
8)Dolph needs more work. You know this to be true- I recently watched some horrible thing where he was running some Witness Protection outfit- while running a restaurant. I shit you not. It was rubbish. But Dolph was good. I can't remember what it was called though.
"Mr. Beaks Looks Forward to Roland Emmerich's..."
by Trazadone
Jul 7th, 2008
08:50:44 AM
Those words don't make any sense. No human being looks forward to an Emmerich film because he has yet to make a good one.
Sir Beaks
by Mr. Nice Gaius
Jul 7th, 2008
08:52:05 AM
I don't know what AICN did to get you to come back but thank you for raising the quality of this site up by at least two notches. Maybe three.

Stuff like this: "...then I envisioned Cusack glumly slumming his way through this nonsense next July 10th and wept uncontrollably for hours." = Comedy Gold.

Cheers.

Franklin T Marmoset - John Cena
by Series7
Jul 7th, 2008
08:54:09 AM
I don't follow WWE at all, but John comes on Conan all the time and he is a pretty funny guy, he doesn't take himself to seriously on late night shows. As for his acting, I never saw the Marine, but it looked like he was aiming for serious in it, even though it looked like a ridiculos movie. As for other WWE movies, never saw the scary movie either, BUT I did see The Condemned and it was pretty good. Minus the Jason Boure style editing, especially since it stared actors that really could fight (unlike Matt Damon) which was really annoying. But seeing that Rambo proved that you can shoot action with not having to quick cut everything to show action. SO I am hopeing that WWE keeps moving in the right direction towards better and better movies, and hopefully Renny Harlin isn't just picking up another paycheck. He hasn't done anythinig worth while since Deep Blue Sea, a personal favorite.
Agreed: Con Air is the shit
by Franklin T Marmoset
Jul 7th, 2008
08:56:49 AM
I do enjoy that one. It's like if a Michael Bay film woke up one day and realised how utterly ludicrous it was.
Con Air is madness..
by Jonah Echo
Jul 7th, 2008
09:01:02 AM
I could never call it good, but it was a hilarious ride while it was going, and one of the few times where Malkovich was taking JOY in slumming it. Now when you see him in some crap, it's like he thinks he is still on the stage or playing the version of himself from the Spike Jonze movie. In Con Air he was gnashing his teeth and taking Jaws size bites out of the scenery. Add in M.C. Gainey, Danny Trejo and Buscemi and your nutjob/sleazoid/terrifying factor has been met, leaving Malkovich all the room to wax psychotic.
Dolph Lundgren with a necklace of ears..
by Jonah Echo
Jul 7th, 2008
09:08:34 AM
perfect. The rest of the movie sadly was pretty lame. Sorry Jarv. Ever see the Lundgren movie with the Sayles script? I think it was called Men of War, or something like that? It was watchable, and Dolph was good in it. Wasn't there one where Dolph fought the devil, or a henchman of the devil or something, called Minion? Never saw it, but am aware of it. It would be interesting to see how many tough guys have attempted to take on the devil/or emmisary of the devil. Arnie of course, and lets not forget Chuck Norris in that flick Hellbound. I recall little about that one, save for Norris's character's name which was priceless: Bob(or some other typical name) Shatter.
Fred say Nic Cage should stop dyeing hair jet black
by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar
Jul 7th, 2008
09:11:07 AM
And get a haircut. Nic still trying to look young for Superman role - Fred say it not work.

Nic started going to Keanu skool of acting in Con Air. It shows!

The Swarm book took place where I lived and the hotel I managed!
by Stormwatcher
Jul 7th, 2008
09:12:18 AM
Boom! This is the German book right? About sea creatures rising up? Cuz that's the one I am talking about. Tons of Germans kept staying with us retracing the book. Tofino ho!
Senor Spielberg
by Jaws Wayne
Jul 7th, 2008
09:14:26 AM
Yeah, the comparison with Emmerich wanting to be Spielberg sounds alright, but it seems Spielberg watched the director's cut of The Patriot before making his incredibly lame remake of The War of the Worlds. Or was that scene where the girl-kid was watching all those dead bodies drift by in the river from the original HG Wells book ? I could be wrong, but I can't recall seeing that in the '53 movie. In any case, Emmerich's scene which can be found in the extras section of The Patriot DVD or implemented in the Director's cut of the film is a fabulous scene and much much better better as the one Spielberg did.
Storm, no...
by Jonah Echo
Jul 7th, 2008
09:14:26 AM
the swarm is a Bee movie in the true sense of the word. A ton of them, a swarm even, of killer bees!

I'm not familiar (or don't think I am) with the one you are talking about, but now that you mention it, I have my useless quest for the day. Sea creatures rising up? Do tell?

Speaking of Con Air
by Series7
Jul 7th, 2008
09:15:22 AM
What ever happened to Dave Chapelle? And why did America let Carlos Mencia ride his wave of success?

Also I tried watching Con Air like a year ago, and the dialog and acting was SOOOO bad I had to turn it off, namely Nic Cage. Put the bunny in the box.

The Swarm book....wow..
by Jonah Echo
Jul 7th, 2008
09:18:16 AM
Attention Roland Emmerich..forget 2012...you want a gonzo disaster movie(written by a german no less)do this one. I haven't read it, but after Storm's mention of it I looked it up and the synopsis alone screams "FILM ME...BADLY"

http://www.amazon.com/Swarm-No vel-Frank-Schatzing/dp/0060813 261

Fred say Nic Cage is a cell phone using zombie
by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar
Jul 7th, 2008
09:18:45 AM
When even Zombies phone it, in must really be bad.
I'd rather eat Spaghetti out of a colostomy bag...
by beefywhore
Jul 7th, 2008
09:28:19 AM
than pay to see a fucking Roland Emmerich movie. I actually snuck into The Day After Tomorrow, and I STILL felt ripped off.
Please DIE
by Knugen
Jul 7th, 2008
09:29:35 AM
Emmerich and Kloser need to stop making movies and/or living.
"the president is a black" What the fuck, Beaks?
by Bobo_Vision
Jul 7th, 2008
09:30:02 AM
"As a) this is a Hollywood movie, and b) the President is a black (revealed in a total "Holy shit, it's Henry Fonda!" moment), we quickly conclude that c) the planet is fucked beyond belief."

Um, first, using black as a noun rather than descriptive term is unusual. Its like people who use gay as a noun. And since he's black it means "the planet is fucked beyond belief"?

You've got to be kidding me right.

"...discovery of piping hot neutrinos microwaving the Earth's co
by Mr. Nice Gaius
Jul 7th, 2008
09:33:37 AM
Of course! Like we haven't heard that one before, Roland!

How about an unstoppable army of Alaskan King Crab rise up from the sea and start taking over the world one pinch at a time? Now, that's a movie I'll watch, Roland. THAT'S...entertainment.

Franklin T Marmoset re: Little Person President
by SutureSelf
Jul 7th, 2008
09:34:44 AM
It was already done thirty years ago. See Billy Barty in Robert Downey's Putney Swope.
Emmerichs career The Ultimate Disaster Movie
by Conans Sword
Jul 7th, 2008
09:35:47 AM
FUCK Emmerich. He's worse than Uwe Boll because he's managed to convince people hes a serious film maker.Anyone looking forward to this should be shot in the teeth. you heard me the fucking teeth!!!
10000 bc was splendidly stupid, and it sucked
by BMacSmith
Jul 7th, 2008
09:37:10 AM
boring ass movie. i left during the climax. I'm all for blowing up shit real good, but he just sucks
How stupid will this films title be
by Wheel99
Jul 7th, 2008
09:43:00 AM
when it is 2013 and the Mayan calander "doomsday" turns out to bullshit like all of the other past end of the world dates.
I'd watch MNG's movie
by Lost Jarv
Jul 7th, 2008
09:43:18 AM
That sounds great.

And don't be dissing Dolph. Dolph's a hero.

Fuck it, I'm watching Dark Angel again tonight.

bobo.
by HoboCode
Jul 7th, 2008
09:44:06 AM
Beaks was making fun of the fact that the president is frequently black in disaster movies. He's bringing light to the perhaps latent unintentional racism of portraying the commander in chief as black in a world on the brink of destruction. As far him saying "a black" it could be a sign of un-PC ignorance, or it could have ebeen a typo. Based o nthis rather intelligent review and the eloquence of his writing OI'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt and say the latter.
"I wore a pink ribbon to the Oscars! I have been to several Elto
by KazamaSmokers
Jul 7th, 2008
09:44:31 AM
"What's that supposed to mean?" "Elton John.... is a gay."
all this negative feedback on 10,000 BC
by just pillow talk
Jul 7th, 2008
09:45:38 AM
is making me quite sad. I had really hoped for gloriously stupidness. I will still watch, but am preparing myself for the impending sadness.

This though, this could be absolutely money.

ricarleite...
by MCVamp
Jul 7th, 2008
09:45:59 AM
We all know Roland Emmerich could never think of anything as stupendously awesome as NY invaded by hordes of furious gorillas punching people to death. Why, that's almost Shakespearian. Where's George Lazenby when you need him?
"Can Emmerich successfully lean on Glover..."
by Bobo_Vision
Jul 7th, 2008
09:46:26 AM
"...to get Harry Belafonte cast as the character of "Harry", aka the elderly musician father of Ejiofor's aide?"

Why would Emmerich need to lean on Glover to get Harry Belafonte cast, Beaks? Are they really close buddies and I'm just not aware of it...or is it because they're both black? This is really fucking weird.

Guys 10,000 BC is "blissfully retarded"
by HoboCode
Jul 7th, 2008
09:46:51 AM
Get it straight.
10000 bc
by Series7
Jul 7th, 2008
09:48:08 AM
The poster with the sabartooth on the cliff, was more exciting then the entire movie. Especially since that scene wasn't in it.
Conans Sword
by Jaws Wayne
Jul 7th, 2008
09:48:22 AM
Hey bud with the tough name, I bet you're midget sized and wear that Manowar shirt even when you go to bed. Get fuckin'lost, nothing wrong with enjoying dumb and stupid but well made popcorn B disaster flicks alright ?
so beaks hated Wanted but loved 2012
by BMacSmith
Jul 7th, 2008
09:48:42 AM
Fuck all y'all I liked ID4
by I Dunno
Jul 7th, 2008
09:48:53 AM
In the exact same way that I like the flying saucer movies of the 1950s.

And Stargate was a good idea that just didn't quite work.

The Day After Tomorrow was just too stupid to bear, however. I can forgive hacking an alien computer with a Mac because the rest of the movie was fun but TDAT just sucked all around.

And 10,000 BC committed the worst crime a film can commit. It was boring.

pigphart5000
by Series7
Jul 7th, 2008
09:50:10 AM
What are you? I've seen you popping up every where?
pigphart5000
by Conans Sword
Jul 7th, 2008
09:50:26 AM
why the fuck do you keep saying that!!!!!!!
Spending years making a movie like 10000 BC
by TheManBehindTheMask
Jul 7th, 2008
09:52:33 AM
I still can't believe someone did that... life is too short (hell, even to see it on theater)
President is "a black" in these movies because...
by MCVamp
Jul 7th, 2008
09:52:40 AM
These hacks are mindful of avoiding the cliche of "black guy dies first" which is silly because 1) That cliche hasn't been used frequently in years and 2) They're unashamed of doing every other cliche to death (will a dog make a narrow escape in this too?) Adding "a black" as President eases your standard hack's "whitey guilt" by giving non-white faces a major role without actually giving them a STARRING role. It's also a lazy way to bring respectability to a shitty movie when in reality, it's the actors reputation that takes a dive, not the other way around.
sorry
by TheManBehindTheMask
Jul 7th, 2008
09:53:23 AM
Bad english in my post above... I'm doing my best.
Jaws Wayne
by Conans Sword
Jul 7th, 2008
09:54:43 AM
wow a cowboy and a shark you must be extra tough. i dont know what the fuck a Manowar shirt is, im guessing its some american thing, but im really very very sorry i hurt your feelings please dont tell harry on me. (jesus what a little bitch)
Is pigphart5000 friends with Equinas?
by Mr. Nice Gaius
Jul 7th, 2008
09:54:44 AM
They seem to share similar tastes...
Okay, I answered my own question with google...
by Bobo_Vision
Jul 7th, 2008
09:55:27 AM
...and found a picture of Danny Glover kissing Harry Belafonte on the lips, so maybe they are close and thats what Beaks was referring to. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt too that the "a" before black was a typo, and the doomed reference was because of Hollywood's portrayal too. But still, bizarro.
Coming 2012, We'll All Be PigFucked
by DarthBakpao
Jul 7th, 2008
10:01:16 AM
That makes a nice tagline for the movie poster
Fred Say HoboCode is right about Beaks
by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar
Jul 7th, 2008
10:02:50 AM
Anytime you see Black man be President in movie, it always end up in disaster for Earthers - that is hollywood. It not ok to use descriptive term 'A Black' to describe Black people though. It is demeaning in a historical context not to mention antiquated.
pigphart=sky_gotham
by HoboCode
Jul 7th, 2008
10:06:03 AM
MCVamp
by HoboCode
Jul 7th, 2008
10:07:11 AM
the cliche of the black guy dying first hasn't been used in years? Apparently you didn't see the shitty remake of The Fog. Don't.
Read it too, Mr. Beaks...it stinks!
by Uncapie
Jul 7th, 2008
10:08:44 AM
The charcters weren't likeable and we've seen landmarks and cities destroyed in other films before. Who cares! How the hell do the guys get the money to finance this junk?!
Camilla Belle was in 10,000 B.C.?
by Mosquito March
Jul 7th, 2008
10:13:36 AM
I thought that was Mary Steenburgen!
President Goldie Wilson?
by Embeedeuce
Jul 7th, 2008
10:14:02 AM
Then who's Vice-President? Jerry Lewis? I suppose Jane Wyman is the First Lady. And Jack Benny is Secretary of the Treasury. I've had enough practical jokes for one evening. Good night, Future Boy!
If 10,000BC
by Series7
Jul 7th, 2008
10:18:56 AM
Had Ra at the end, it would've made for a much better movie.
Least believable part of the whole script:
by mullymt
Jul 7th, 2008
10:21:54 AM
John Cusack as a 33-year-old.
Anyone remember Dave Chapelle
by Series7
Jul 7th, 2008
10:22:53 AM
take on the president of Deep Impact? Cure for aides.
Perhaps the shittiness of this movie is what Nostrodamus meant
by Darth Sticky
Jul 7th, 2008
10:23:31 AM
...y'know...instead of "end of the world" prophecy, he actually meant "don't see this fucking movie."
"two of each animal species"...
by Lujho
Jul 7th, 2008
10:24:46 AM
... yeah, because it's TOTALLY possible to repopulate an entire species with just 2 specimens and not encounter problems with inbreeding at all.
so 'black' is ok, but "A black' is not. a little ridiculous
by BMacSmith
Jul 7th, 2008
10:27:00 AM
but whatever. i dont pay much attention to this PC crap. I thought 'black' was a racist term now too.
Forgot how awesome Kentucky Fried Movie is.
by CreasyBear
Jul 7th, 2008
10:33:11 AM
Time for a repeat viewing.
Conair
by HoboCode
Jul 7th, 2008
10:35:35 AM
I would be ten times more bareable without Cage's horribly inauthentic and thoroughly grating Southern drawl.
Oh come on, with Emmy, you know what you're getting
by DrAstroZoom
Jul 7th, 2008
10:35:42 AM
... so quit yer bitchin' and pass the popcorn!
What the fuck is the backdrop?
by mr.brownstone
Jul 7th, 2008
10:36:04 AM
I second that. What the fuck is it?
Ok whats the deal with Cusack
by Series7
Jul 7th, 2008
10:37:05 AM
playing the divorced dad in every movie he's in now?
brownstone
by Jonah Echo
Jul 7th, 2008
10:38:29 AM
it's the starship in ID4 blowing up the whitehouse. That big expanse of white in the middle is the WH being consumed in flames.
This Isn't The Whitley Strieber 2012 Movie Is It?
by www.valiens.com
Jul 7th, 2008
10:40:14 AM
2012: The War For Souls, written by Strieber...Michael Bay is involved...this isn't that, is it?
Lujho: "two of each animal species"
by mbeemer
Jul 7th, 2008
10:41:59 AM
Hey, it worked for Noah!
So after finally reading that
by Series7
Jul 7th, 2008
10:46:41 AM
I guess this isn't the sequel to Apoclypto?
Poo
by TroutMaskReplicant
Jul 7th, 2008
10:55:27 AM
Perhaps it's time to eat shit and die...
So.. can we expect an X-Files movie about 2012..?
by Aeghast
Jul 7th, 2008
10:59:01 AM
Hurrrmmm..?
anyone recall the alleged sequel pitch for ID4?
by Jonah Echo
Jul 7th, 2008
11:00:29 AM
I seem to recall it being seriously talked about for a while that the plot would involve the president being infected and potentially dying from his mind meld with the alien in the first film, and then Smith, Goldblum and company actually shrking down Fantastic Voyage/Inner Space style and doing battle with some alien virus or what not. Does anyone recall hearing this? It would have been quite a while ago-97 or 98?
Space Arks
by Autodidact
Jul 7th, 2008
11:05:11 AM
I'm there for any movie with space arks.
Sounds like the worst film of all time
by MontyPigeon
Jul 7th, 2008
11:07:51 AM
It's going to be so unbelievably bad that Emmerich will personally pay you to download it, a week after it's released in theatres.
This is being made by the SciFi channel, right?
by V'Shael
Jul 7th, 2008
11:13:34 AM
I mean, it sounds like one of theirs....
Fred Thinks Laser Blast worst film all time
by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar
Jul 7th, 2008
11:19:51 AM
Fred's Mom saw it before Fred born, that why Fred is man Fred is today.
Don't write RZA off yet, Danny
by MontyPigeon
Jul 7th, 2008
11:22:37 AM
He has a love for Kung Fu films and it could pay off. Especially under Tarantinos' wing.

Admittedly Emmerich has a fascination of destroying the human race in nearly all of his movies but I have yet to see one which is actually good.

I pray for the day when RZA starts making movies about killing Roland Emmerich, now that's the right direction to go in.

Laserblast..
by Jonah Echo
Jul 7th, 2008
11:23:15 AM
that's just the tip of the bad movie iceberg. It has been mentioned many times, but Troll 2 may honestly hold that title. Also, there was Shrunken Heads...now that...wow.
Worst Film All-Time
by Bricktops hammer
Jul 7th, 2008
11:23:46 AM
The Mangler, only film I walked out of the theatre
Troll 2 is GREAT
by Lost Jarv
Jul 7th, 2008
11:25:56 AM
Nilbog, Nilbog, Nilbog

In fact, if I get banned again, that's going to be my new ID. NILBOG Jarv

Worst Film of all Time
by Lost Jarv
Jul 7th, 2008
11:26:47 AM
Forrest Gump.

You heard me. Nothing ever made will be as bad as that putrid piece of festering misogynistic propaganda. And I'm usually up for some misogyny in films.

Battlefield Earth. Still the worst for me. Then Plan 9.
by V'Shael
Jul 7th, 2008
11:27:27 AM
But Battlefield Earth is kind of awesome in its badness. By that I mean, I'm in AWE of how bad it managed to be.
In all seriousness
by Lost Jarv
Jul 7th, 2008
11:28:24 AM
It's impossible to hit "worst of all time". To do it, you have to pass through so-bad-it's awesomeland, slay the dragon of cheesy fun and then throw yourself on the sword of boredom.

I would seriously consider Brown Bunny for the title.

as far as big loud ridiculously vacuous movies go..
by Jonah Echo
Jul 7th, 2008
11:28:43 AM
it is going to be pretty hard to top Armageddon. That movie was so loud, overblown and aggressive that annoyed me not just the one time I saw it, but all summer 98 long, when you could continuously hear it trying to blow the wall out of the theater, even when you were in another theater already watching a movie. Nothing like watching Saving Private Ryan during that quiet scene in the farmhouse and realizing that the yelling and thunder you hear is Bruce and company wacking out on a big styrofoam rock over in theater 4.
Troll 2 is on my
by Series7
Jul 7th, 2008
11:29:30 AM
Netflicks queue, it better be fucking great!

My vote for worst movie ever would be Da Vinci Code, god what a terrible terrible movie.

or Father's Day
by Lost Jarv
Jul 7th, 2008
11:29:31 AM
Robin Williams and Billy Crystal. Williams raps in German. Apparently this is hysterical. It isn't.
Fred think Nightfall was also diaper stink
by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar
Jul 7th, 2008
11:30:25 AM
Once gain Fred mom's saw that before Fred born. Fred see pattern.
Another terrific article, Beaks
by Drunken Rage
Jul 7th, 2008
11:30:45 AM
Anything that contains references to both "Pootie Tang" and "Bless the Beasts and the Children" gets a big thumbs up.
Not to piss anyone off
by Bricktops hammer
Jul 7th, 2008
11:33:14 AM
OOPS
by Bricktops hammer
Jul 7th, 2008
11:34:02 AM
Not to piss anyone off but Indy4 might be in my top 5 worst of all time
Both Da VInci code and Battlefield Earth are good shouts
by Lost Jarv
Jul 7th, 2008
11:35:25 AM
But I nominate teh British Made Demi Moore Stinker: Half Light. DO NOT WATCH. EVER.
Yes, obviously Gigli, Batman and Robin
by Lost Jarv
Jul 7th, 2008
11:36:13 AM
at least one Star Wars Prequel, The Lost World and Indy 4 are all worth a mention.
Nightfall...also junk
by Jonah Echo
Jul 7th, 2008
11:37:07 AM
again really just a terrible tread through boring-land. Though it doesn't hold a candle to another flick brought up the other day: Solar Babies!

Jarv is right though. If you are truly on a hunt for the worst, then you do have to go beyond so good it's bad or even so much potential wasted(which is where Troll 2 and even Armageddon live) and venture into the nocturnal, cold world of "direct to video and pretentious art-house wierdness. That, I believe, is where the true monsters live.

Consider such awful, meandering fare as Sourdough- a movie about an old crochety dude who wants to go live on some fabled mountain, only to find a bunch of slaughtered animals when he gets there, after an hour and half of watching the old coot talk about going there, while he walks about in circles.

Behold, Tale of a Vampire with Julian Sands and home video style production about vampires that ...wait for it..work in the library and do little else.

And then there is To Catch A Yeti, with Meatloaf in it, and a child who keeps screaming to his parents.."Get me that yeti, or I'll make your lives hell."

Blood Gnome...
by DocPazuzu
Jul 7th, 2008
11:37:36 AM
...is pretty awful, but I'd have to say Omega Doom is one of THE absolute worst. In a bad way.
Worst movie? Screamers.
by HoboCode
Jul 7th, 2008
11:39:17 AM
Fucking awful.
I second Half Light.
by DocPazuzu
Jul 7th, 2008
11:39:49 AM
Horrible.
How bout entire series that went crap?
by Jonah Echo
Jul 7th, 2008
11:40:35 AM
For instance is there a more terrible trilogy than Curse, Curse 2 and Curse 3? One was about meteor poisoning turning people into crazy slop, 2 was about a man turning into a were-snake, 3 was about some tribal curse and I think Chris Lee poked his head in for a moment.
Fred just spoke to Freds Mom about bad movies
by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar
Jul 7th, 2008
11:41:24 AM
Fred's mom said Attack of Killer Tomatoes was worst movie she ever saw. Fred never saw that one, but Fred still detect pattern in Freds mom's movie watching and Fred's later behavior in life.

Fred think Fred's mom have questionable taste in movies.

Megiddo: Omega Code 2...
by DocPazuzu
Jul 7th, 2008
11:41:27 AM
...is one of the greatest bad movies I've ever seen. It's superb on so many levels of crap.
The Dark...
by DocPazuzu
Jul 7th, 2008
11:42:46 AM
...with Sean Bean is also bad on the Half Light level, i e simply dreadful with no redeeming qualities.
All Mr Bean movies
by Bricktops hammer
Jul 7th, 2008
11:43:09 AM
Doc, that is right-on
by Jonah Echo
Jul 7th, 2008
11:43:34 AM
Best moment in Megiddo was when Michael Bien loads his gun, and says "The Lord giveth.." locks and loads,"and the Lord taketh away." And all of this from a supposedly serious attempt at a christian film.
How about The Dark from 94, I think..
by Jonah Echo
Jul 7th, 2008
11:44:23 AM
with Neve Campbell and a giant subterannean rodent being hunted by Brion James?
Jonah Echo
by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar
Jul 7th, 2008
11:45:00 AM
Fred not see any of those DTV moveies, but Fred thinks just from way you describe them, that they be even worse than Mothers Day
Great bad movie:
by DocPazuzu
Jul 7th, 2008
11:45:13 AM
Howling 2. Holy shit that movie's incredible. Reb Brown, bad special effects, Sybil Danning's hooters (same scene shown 20 times over end credits), Christopher Lee in pseudo-punky new wave outfit and incomprehensible plot. GOLD!
I know what you did last summer
by Bricktops hammer
Jul 7th, 2008
11:45:59 AM
bad, Also a terrible title
Jonah Echo
by DocPazuzu
Jul 7th, 2008
11:46:04 AM
Anything, ANYTHING, with Brion James is automatically watchable.
Also, anything after the original with the word
by Jonah Echo
Jul 7th, 2008
11:46:16 AM
Howling in the title. Howling: New Moon Rising is definitely one of the worst movies ever being basically a country line dancing tutorial mixed with clips from the previous movies to save on fx.
Worst movie of all time talk
by classyfredblassy
Jul 7th, 2008
11:47:13 AM
What, no "shark attack 3: megladon" or "Mansquito"? come on people. Now fuck off.
Brion James..
by Jonah Echo
Jul 7th, 2008
11:48:16 AM
yes, Doc, and actually The Dark was quite watchable. I guess I switched gears from "worst" to fun-bad again. One scene hada guy screaming at James "Your'e worse than the creature" and James just doing that drunken hyena laugh he had. Brion James was B-movie fun. It's a shame he passed away.
Undisputed Worst Film of All Time (tie)
by MCVamp
Jul 7th, 2008
11:48:40 AM
"Tyler Perry's (Insert Any Tyler Perry Film Title Here)"
I think Hancock might rank up there with the worst ever
by BMacSmith
Jul 7th, 2008
11:48:50 AM
i left after he went to the hospital. didnt really care to finish it. pretty boring. was the ending any good? i dont really even care.
What about "Bats"??
by classyfredblassy
Jul 7th, 2008
11:48:51 AM
Starring La Bomba and the hot ass red head from Starship Troopers?
Sorry guys, I know its a cliche but I gotta go with
by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks
Jul 7th, 2008
11:49:27 AM
House of the Dead. Truly the worst film I ever watched.
Fred Nominate Phantom of the Paradise
by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar
Jul 7th, 2008
11:50:21 AM
As second worse movie of all time.

Fred qualifies bad movies as being made by directors who try to make a good movie, not directors who intentionally set out to make dreck.

The English Patient
by Bricktops hammer
Jul 7th, 2008
11:50:24 AM
Stephen King has a few bad adaptations to his name.
by Jonah Echo
Jul 7th, 2008
11:51:11 AM
The Mangler as mentioned.. but for bottom-barrel work, consider: Maximum Overdrive Trucks Thinner Graveyard Shift and dear Lord help you if you have seen or heard of this one..

The Devil's Gift(loosely based on his short story The Monkey)

Hey Beaks*
by monsieur verdoux
Jul 7th, 2008
11:51:20 AM
Keep that asterisk shit back at CHUD. It's annoying as hell* *See, I told you.
Burial Ground, or...
by DocPazuzu
Jul 7th, 2008
11:51:21 AM
...The Nights of Terror as it's also called. Funniest bad Italian zombie movie EVER. "Mother, this cloth smells of DEATH!"
Yeah Bats was terrible
by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks
Jul 7th, 2008
11:51:31 AM
but when people in HOTD died, and the camera spun around as it turned to red...... It took some of my soul.
Jonah
by Bricktops hammer
Jul 7th, 2008
11:53:39 AM
Thinner is so bad. Good call. Never saw the Devil's Gift but read the story
Bats was awful.
by DocPazuzu
Jul 7th, 2008
11:54:44 AM
However, as long as we're talking Lou Diamond Philips here, Route 666 was much worse.
1408
by Series7
Jul 7th, 2008
11:55:05 AM
For worst Steven King movie. Gah what a boring useless movie.
The House Behind the Cemetary is fuckin woefull
by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks
Jul 7th, 2008
11:55:55 AM
I swear there is a moment when the killer is stalking, the music stops, he walks offscreen and it starts up again. As if his job wasn't hard enough, tha poor cunt has to swap vinyl sides to keep the atmosphere crankin.
Series7
by Bricktops hammer
Jul 7th, 2008
11:56:05 AM
Yeah they should have left that great short story alone.
Series7
by DocPazuzu
Jul 7th, 2008
11:56:55 AM
I'm with you there. 1408 was a piece of turgid, soulless shit.
Fred say Hancock not really bad - just need more time
by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar
Jul 7th, 2008
11:57:12 AM
They should not have wrapped up movie so quickly, could have used added 20/30 minutes. Still it not bad movie, and it had one scene that Fred thought was funniest description of what had just happened (in prison) that Fred has ever seen in - Fred not joking. It involved prison fight and Jason Batemen asking Will Smith if he did what Bateman just heard he did. Fred still laughing.
Thinner is disqualified...
by MCVamp
Jul 7th, 2008
11:58:17 AM
Because as recently as this year, I have heard at least five people reference the single memorable moment of that movie: "I curse you...THEEEN-AIRRR!" That kind of contribution has to take Thinner at least out of the bottom 20.
Nightshift
by Bricktops hammer
Jul 7th, 2008
11:59:45 AM
Another Stephen King debacle of a film
Whattabout Ghost in the Machine
by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks
Jul 7th, 2008
11:59:58 AM
the first film I ever walked out of.
Gymkata is the greatest bad movie of all time
by krullboyisback
Jul 7th, 2008
11:59:59 AM
Come on Kurt Thomas? Parmistan? Ninja cannibals? CIA? Fuck me that movie was so bad it was good, and TNT showed it all the time in the mid 1990s
Or was it Graveyard Shift?
by Bricktops hammer
Jul 7th, 2008
12:00:19 PM
The Patriot and Stargate
by MattmanReturns
Jul 7th, 2008
12:00:22 PM
Are the only Emmerich films that withstand the test of time. Anyone else agree? I watched the Patriot over the weekend and was impressed with the visuals, most of the characters, John Williams' score, and the unabashed killing of unkillable characters.
Loved Gymkata when I was a kid
by Bricktops hammer
Jul 7th, 2008
12:01:55 PM
Wonder what it would be like now. Probably unwatchable
MCVAMP..ok, you are right..
by Jonah Echo
Jul 7th, 2008
12:02:50 PM
doesn't make it any less bad, and the scene with the gypsy guy laughing like a loon driving a semi=priceless. Mantegna was so out of place in that.

A few more bad titles: Rumplestiltskin(the horror movie, with Rumple looking like a large version of that little troll from Cat's Eye)

Grim-a giant troll in a maze

Jack Frost: the killer snowman flick or the Michael Keaton dead snowman dad flick, take your pick.

Skeeter...nuff said.

Jack Frost
by DocPazuzu
Jul 7th, 2008
12:05:04 PM
Good God, they're both horrible, but at least the horror one could have been so bad it was good. Don't know how, but they managed to fuck up a scene of snowman shower rape.
Day After Tomorrow Sucked...Hard
by grungies
Jul 7th, 2008
12:07:12 PM
I'll admit the apocalypse itself was thrillingly bombastic, but once the actual plot got started I couldn't have been more bored. This coming from a guy who enjoyed the gloriously stupid Independence Day.
"Family" Jack Frost was scarier than "Horror" Jack Frost...
by MCVamp
Jul 7th, 2008
12:07:23 PM
So both movies deserve dishonorable mention.
Yor: Hunter from the Future
by Jonah Echo
Jul 7th, 2008
12:08:07 PM
how bout that?
Great Bad movie
by Bricktops hammer
Jul 7th, 2008
12:08:20 PM
Red Sonja
Uh, don't forget BLOODRAYNE.
by Mr. Nice Gaius
Jul 7th, 2008
12:10:26 PM
How about Ghoulies. . . Mariska Hargitay's
by krullboyisback
Jul 7th, 2008
12:10:30 PM
first role. . .
Scariest movie recently was Hairspray
by Bricktops hammer
Jul 7th, 2008
12:10:54 PM
Did you see John Travolta???
so he's president in 2012, and mayor in 2019?
by ironic_name
Jul 7th, 2008
12:11:46 PM
I guess the survivors forgive him for not evacuating sooner.
SPACE TRUCKERS
by Mr. Nice Gaius
Jul 7th, 2008
12:12:07 PM
Now, there's a bad movie that cracks me up.

Anti-gravity beer!

hes not he's
by ironic_name
Jul 7th, 2008
12:12:13 PM
The Ringer and Dukes of hazard
by Bricktops hammer
Jul 7th, 2008
12:12:23 PM
Two Knoxville shitters
Red Sonja
by Jonah Echo
Jul 7th, 2008
12:12:59 PM
It's pretty bad, but it's definitely more entertaining bad. Best part is where Sonja is doing backflips and it's so clear its a man wearing a red wig. Also, no Nelisen jokes. She still had semblances of femininity back then.

Defcon 4 is pretty much straight crap. As is Squirm.

Superman IV: The Quest for Peace
by MCVamp
Jul 7th, 2008
12:13:39 PM
For so many reasons.
J.C., age 33 and a boy named noah
by ironic_name
Jul 7th, 2008
12:13:56 PM
I wonder if john cusack as jack curtis will sacrifice himself, and if his son noah will get on an ark?
Ghoulies was crappy
by Jonah Echo
Jul 7th, 2008
12:14:23 PM
but part 4 took the cake there. They couldnt even afford ghoulie puppets. They were just two midgets wearing paper mache masks.
Jonah
by Bricktops hammer
Jul 7th, 2008
12:14:41 PM
Did you hear they are remaking Red Sonja...why???
Jack Frost was AWESEOME!
by Series7
Jul 7th, 2008
12:15:16 PM
Did anyone see the sequel? I never did.
Jack Frost was AWESEOME!
by Series7
Jul 7th, 2008
12:15:25 PM
Did anyone see the sequel? I never did.
leonard part 6 and the avengers are the worst.
by ironic_name
Jul 7th, 2008
12:15:29 PM
About Bloodrayne, I saw a hilarious documentary
by krullboyisback
Jul 7th, 2008
12:15:48 PM
about vampires in film; they talked about the greats (Blade, Interview with the Vampire, The Hunger, etc) and also talked about Bloodrayne. I can't tell you how hilarious it was to hear Uwe Boll and Kristana Lokken talk serious about the emotional depth of the film. HA HA HA!!!
mentioned this last week..
by Jonah Echo
Jul 7th, 2008
12:16:14 PM
but Eyes of Fire is up there as well. Anyone see this garbage from the 80s?
Defcon 4
by Series7
Jul 7th, 2008
12:16:47 PM
Isn't Emmerichs muse Dean Devlein in that?
Space Truckers
by Jonah Echo
Jul 7th, 2008
12:17:05 PM
square pigs!
he's, you were right the first time
by Bricktops hammer
Jul 7th, 2008
12:17:24 PM
If we are lucky....
by TVguy4566
Jul 7th, 2008
12:17:35 PM
The world will end before this movie comes out. I can't see the world's destruction based on a calender created by a dead civilization being anymore painful than watching this movie. Emmerich should really quite making movies.
Silent Deadly Night 5
by Jonah Echo
Jul 7th, 2008
12:18:13 PM
which featured killer toys, Mickey Rooney as Joe Petto and his son was a murderous marionette robot.
I saw that Krullboy
by Bricktops hammer
Jul 7th, 2008
12:18:59 PM
Fucking hilarious. Kristana especially was very serious about the depth of the character...ha ha ha
"Emmerich should really quite making movies"
by ironic_name
Jul 7th, 2008
12:19:10 PM
hehe
Worst movie ever?
by Hawaiian Organ Donor
Jul 7th, 2008
12:19:26 PM
Didn't we have this conversation on another thread recently?

I agree with The Glove. Given the pedigree, Indy 4 may be at or close to the top. But then I think of Ghost Rider, Silver Surfer, Failure to Launch, The Family Stone, Elizabethtown, The Avengers, Friends With Money, Gosford Park, AvP 1&2, Chronicles of Riddick, Signs, Van Helsing, Battlefield Earth and Mission to Mars and suddenly all of those are at the top of my list.

Emmerich might have given us 10,000 B.C., The Day After Tomorrow and Godzilla, but I'll stand behind The Patriot, ID4 and Universal Soldier anyday. Unfortunately Stargate was only good on the first viewing but I'll give it a pass since I think it helped to jumpstart Hollywood's renewed interest in sci-fi after almost a decade of duds.

Will Smith
by pumaman
Jul 7th, 2008
12:19:50 PM
clearly missed the point with Bad Boys 2. That was fucking terrible and unfunny as all hell.
As for Con Air and Armeggedon
by TVguy4566
Jul 7th, 2008
12:20:09 PM
At least the actors knew those movies were crap and gave enjoyable, but over-the-top performances that at least made those movies guilty pleasures. Other than for Independence Day, most of the actors play it straight in Emmerich movies which gives you nothing to fall back on when Emmerich delivers barely registing plots or narrative.
Chud II: Bud the Chud is another classic film
by krullboyisback
Jul 7th, 2008
12:21:32 PM
Fuck Emerich!
by Crackles
Jul 7th, 2008
12:22:55 PM
I completely gave up on Emerich after watching Jake Gyllenhaal RUNNING FROM COLD WEATHER....Are you fucking kidding me Emerich!! Day After Tomorrow should be in the comedy genre....I was laughing my ass off! I tried to watch 10000 BC but it was the biggest fucking snooze fest of the year!! 2012 isn't getting my $8.50!
And don't forget "They Call me Bruce"
by krullboyisback
Jul 7th, 2008
12:23:00 PM
Or They Still Call Me Bruce
by Bricktops hammer
Jul 7th, 2008
12:23:31 PM
THINNER
by classyfredblassy
Jul 7th, 2008
12:25:19 PM
Sorry but I got thing for hot chicks dressed up like Gypsies. Woodie Alert: http://www.djfl.de/entertainme nt/djfl/1095/bilder/109898b2.j p g
Pondsum
by Crackles
Jul 7th, 2008
12:25:23 PM
It's nice to see an AVP-R hater!! Fuck those assholes for making that cool Red Band Trailer and making me spend my money on that piece of shit movie!!!!
Liquid Sky
by KazamaSmokers
Jul 7th, 2008
12:25:26 PM
Zohan was pretty fucking bad
by Bricktops hammer
Jul 7th, 2008
12:26:06 PM
Sandler sounded French half the movie
Bricktops Hammer I never saw the sequel
by krullboyisback
Jul 7th, 2008
12:26:39 PM
was it any good?
Jack Frost gets a pass too...
by classyfredblassy
Jul 7th, 2008
12:27:24 PM
Because it starred UBER MILF Kelly Preston.
Good call on The English Patient
by Hawaiian Organ Donor
Jul 7th, 2008
12:28:15 PM
I still think we're living in bizarro world where everything is reversed as that was the worst movie of the year and yet was named best movie of the year.

Same thing happened again with Crash and Million Dollar Baby.

Oh, hey, NOTHING BUT TROUBLE.
by MCVamp
Jul 7th, 2008
12:28:27 PM
Goddamn that was bad.
A couple of Nic Cages films: Next, Ghost Rider, Sonny,
by GQtaste
Jul 7th, 2008
12:28:28 PM
The Wicker Man,Windtalkers, Captain Corelli's Mandolin just to name a few. And those are pretty fucking bad!
Bud the Chud! good call!
by Jonah Echo
Jul 7th, 2008
12:29:42 PM
And yes, we had this conv elsewhere, but there it was more "name the bad or B movie" than compiling a list. Always up for playing the ID game though.

I mentioned this earlier, but has anyone seen Making Contact? I tihnk it was called Joey elsewhere. It was an early Roland Emmerich film, but it might have been better than his more recent fare. I can't recall much of it, save for a kid with powers, a mannequin, a giant "cheeseburger" and an end scene where they toys in a kid's room were floating.

Krullboy
by Bricktops hammer
Jul 7th, 2008
12:30:35 PM
As terribly good as the original my friend. "With my right foot I will kick your face, with my left, I will kick your nose, look at my face, I'm an oriental"
And to be honest I really fucking hated his side
by GQtaste
Jul 7th, 2008
12:31:24 PM
kick from the National Tresure films. The dude that played the retard in Gigli? He got on my very last nerve!
Bricktops Hammer, my grandparents had Bruce on Beta
by krullboyisback
Jul 7th, 2008
12:32:57 PM
and I think my sister and I watched it about a million times. . .of course when you are 5 the sex and race jokes go a little over your head, to say nothing of the Hare Krishna DEA agents. I fucking love that part
Hawaiian
by Bricktops hammer
Jul 7th, 2008
12:33:18 PM
Thanks, I never understood that award either. fucking awful boring movie. Crash was shite too. Million Dollar Baby (while I didn't love it) at least kept me interested
A SAMUEL L. BRONKOWITZ PRODUCTION
by g-ride9000
Jul 7th, 2008
12:34:52 PM
Critters was laughably bad in a good way too
by krullboyisback
Jul 7th, 2008
12:35:46 PM
must kill Krites
Clerks 2
by Hawaiian Organ Donor
Jul 7th, 2008
12:35:48 PM
Talk about garbage. Belongs up there with Transporter 2 as the only movie in recent years I rented and turned off in the first 15 minutes.
Krullboy
by Bricktops hammer
Jul 7th, 2008
12:36:47 PM
I forgot about the Hare Krishna agents. Now I wanna go back and watch that crapfest again. I just found out my sister's a closet Sci-Fi junky. How cool is that?
Carlito's Way 2
by Bricktops hammer
Jul 7th, 2008
12:38:19 PM
Not even sure why it was made. Garbage
Matrix Reloaded will always be the worst movie ever
by BMacSmith
Jul 7th, 2008
12:39:15 PM
case closed!
Cool Bricktops Hammer. Also, just found out that
by krullboyisback
Jul 7th, 2008
12:39:37 PM
someone has put the entire "They Call Me Bruce" movie in segments on Youtube. . . I just watched the first few minutes and was crying my eyes out laughing at the overtly racist theme song played during the title credits, "Oriental Boy"!!! Priceless!
President Goldie Wilson...
by Kid Z
Jul 7th, 2008
12:39:50 PM
...Geez! The evil presidential aide should be Biff Tannen!
Loved Critters too, so terribly good
by Bricktops hammer
Jul 7th, 2008
12:40:08 PM
The English Patient
by HoboCode
Jul 7th, 2008
12:41:14 PM
I hate that movie with the white hot passion of a thousand suns. TERRIBLE!
I gotta check that out
by Bricktops hammer
Jul 7th, 2008
12:41:34 PM
They should make a Bruce 3: They will always call me Bruce
BMacSmith
by Bricktops hammer
Jul 7th, 2008
12:42:41 PM
Revolutions is way worse than Reloaded in my opinion
Bricktops hammer
by Hawaiian Organ Donor
Jul 7th, 2008
12:43:36 PM
Million Dollar Baby was nearly as heavy-handed, ham-fisted as Crash. The over the top German boxer at the end? Jeeeeeezus.

They had so many stereotypes in that movie I don't know why they stopped short of the Mexican tomato picker, the Italian pizzeria owner with the curly moustache, the cute kid dying of leukemia, the a-hole boss banging his secretary and the tour bus full of Japanese snapping pictures.

at least Revolutions had a mech thing. even if it sucked
by BMacSmith
Jul 7th, 2008
12:45:33 PM
and no rave scene. that automatically makes it better than Reloaded.
Bruce 3 would be awesome!!
by krullboyisback
Jul 7th, 2008
12:45:57 PM
But in this one, Bruce has to enter a tournament and fight Jean Claude Van Dam
10,000 BC...
by Kid Z
Jul 7th, 2008
12:45:58 PM
...If you're gonna make a stupid-ass caveman movie and you're gonna have the obligatory "sexy cavegirl" character, and if you're gonna cast Camilla Belle... then DAMMIT(!) at least costume her in a barely-held-together fur bikini for chrissakes! It's just simple, b-move, common sense. I wasted two hours of my life watching this thing in hi-def on OnDemand and never saw a glimpse of Camilla-skin... I mean was that tribe some kinda cave-Taliban or something? Camilla in a fur-burka just don't cut it!
Hawaiian
by Bricktops hammer
Jul 7th, 2008
12:46:40 PM
I concede. Only saw MDB once which, for me means I didn't care for it. I rewatch almost everything i enjoy. Unemployment rocks!!
How bout all those BMX movies from the 80s..
by Jonah Echo
Jul 7th, 2008
12:46:59 PM
like Rad?

Nothing screams suspension of disbelief like watching a snot nosed kid ride his bmx up onto a dumpster and then leap over a speeding station wagon. Booyah!

And how bout bad that tries hard to be so good it's bad, but is just bad? Saturday the 14th and Saturday the 14th Strikes Back.

And Martin Caiden's "Exit Earth" sits neglected.
by Fred
Jul 7th, 2008
12:48:25 PM
Great cheesey Space Ark end o' the earth masterpiece sans earthquakes.
Yeah mean
by Series7
Jul 7th, 2008
12:48:30 PM
Supercross? From like 3 years ago?
The Rave Scene
by Bricktops hammer
Jul 7th, 2008
12:50:03 PM
easily the worst thing in the trilogy but Revolutions made me wanna go up on the stage and rip the movie screen down. The whole movie!
The Matrix Reloaded wouldn't even be the worst movie
by Hawaiian Organ Donor
Jul 7th, 2008
12:50:09 PM
Ever made if it was the ONLY movie ever made. Not even if I was hypotized to think it was the worst movie ever made would I call it the worst movie ever made.
Now you know why Hollywood only does remakes and sequels
by TVguy4566
Jul 7th, 2008
12:58:19 PM
If this is the best original blockbuster they can come up with, I say keep on making remakes, sequels and comic book movies. At least they seem to have perfected the comic book movie thing (Iron Man, Incredible Hulk, Wanted, looks like The Dark Knight if early reviews are on the mark).
American Werewolf in Paris
by Jonah Echo
Jul 7th, 2008
12:58:24 PM
and Mortal Kombat: Annihilation shoot for worst sequels ever. Fly 2, Food of the Gods 2. But then you have House 2, which was awesomely craptastic. John Ratzenberger in that flick cracks me up every time.
Real Men
by Hawaiian Organ Donor
Jul 7th, 2008
12:58:39 PM
I hadn't thought about that in years. Wasn't there a cheesy encounter with an alien at the end for an exchange of a glass of water for either the good package or The Big Gun?

I spent an entire summer watching that on HBO.

Hawaiian
by Bricktops hammer
Jul 7th, 2008
12:59:46 PM
You confused me. Neither is the worst movie ever made by a longshot. Just very disappointing after the fabulous "The Matrix". Bring back Joey Pants!
How bout Parents?
by Jonah Echo
Jul 7th, 2008
01:00:10 PM
I kept thinking it should be good, but, at least in my eyes, it never made it. Bob Balaban directed, and Randy Quaid was the papa cannibal. Boring.
people who like Reloaded just like Keanu man ass!
by BMacSmith
Jul 7th, 2008
01:00:22 PM
terrible special effects: check

worst dialogue since Star Wars Ep I: check

inane plot that goes nowhere: check

completely lacking in anything resembling depth (yet still manages to convince people its deep): check

completely pointless fight scenes: check

completely ignoring the first movie: double check

man nudity: check

Belucci nudity: no check!

rave scene: check

white Milli Vanilli: check

Trinity kick overused to the point of parody: check

bad acting: check

anything else i forgot? need i go on?

It's not the worst if it doesn't star Pauly Shore
by MontyPigeon
Jul 7th, 2008
01:02:10 PM
No matter how bad you think the film that you regard as the worst is, it doesn't come close.
Bio-Dome
by Bricktops hammer
Jul 7th, 2008
01:04:24 PM
Good call Monty...."there's a ground Monty"
I'd put Inland Empire
by Series7
Jul 7th, 2008
01:12:55 PM
on a list of worst movies. I know its forbided to nay say the Lynch and to be deemed as a "you just don't get it" type of person, but that movie was terrible. There was no reason to sit through it, if I wanted to watch and hour and a half of black screen with random scenes you could see, I'd watch my old ass TV at night. How that movie made 3 million dollars is beyond me.
idioticy???
by Bricktops hammer
Jul 7th, 2008
01:14:14 PM
are you really calling US stupid. Also "they don't audiences as a pack of idiots". C'mon man
Having watched Alien vs. Predator over the weekend
by Xiphos_2
Jul 7th, 2008
01:15:02 PM
I nominate that cinematic after birth as the single worse festering sack of shit I have ever seen. It had zero bad movie redeeming quality. Zip, zero, zilch, nil, nada, none, nien, and nyet.
I agree Series7
by Bricktops hammer
Jul 7th, 2008
01:16:35 PM
Lynch is so weird I usually lose interest halfway through. Maybe I "don't get it" but I like to be entertained, my bad
Matrix sequels.
by HoboCode
Jul 7th, 2008
01:19:40 PM
Man I hate when people shit on these movies. They were pretty awesome. I'll give you that the rave scene was a little overdone, the multiple Neo fight CGI was a joke (towards the end), the Architect was needlessly pedantic, Kid's storyline annoying, and the "war's over" ending was weak, but the movies still kick ass. The same breathtaking action from the first film (which is overrated to begin with) is in the two sequels. I lvoed the highway chace scene in Reloaded, and the final fight between Smith and Neo is one of the sweetest battles ever put on screen.
My two cents....
by Crackles
Jul 7th, 2008
01:19:53 PM
Critters is fucking Classic! And the Matrix Trilogy rocks!!! Fuck you fools!Oh and Long Live Speed Racer!!! Sorry Speed that people are so closed minded...I guess they're afraid bright colors and originality. It's a movie based on a cartoon for cryin out loud!
Bricktops hammer
by Series7
Jul 7th, 2008
01:21:08 PM
Yeah, read any review of that movie though. Its like they can't not love it, its so good. Lynch gets his dick sucked way too much by critics and fans.
Don't Know Which Is Worse...
by mrbeaks
Jul 7th, 2008
01:26:29 PM
... NOTHING BUT TROUBLE or HAUNTED HONEYMOON. Both are depressing wastes of talent.
Xiphos_2
by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar
Jul 7th, 2008
01:27:54 PM
Fred thinks you forgot to mention Nee! As in Knights who say
Xi!
by just pillow talk
Jul 7th, 2008
01:28:39 PM
I think the NY Mess and D-backs have the same record now, or one game difference. Yikes!
Come on
by Series7
Jul 7th, 2008
01:28:46 PM
Nothing But Trouble had that sweet Digital Underground song Same Song.
Haunted Honeymoon
by Jonah Echo
Jul 7th, 2008
01:29:14 PM
A travesty to be sure. As was The Radioland Murders, which happened to have a certain Mr. Lucas name on it somewhere.
D-War...also a trainwreck...
by Jonah Echo
Jul 7th, 2008
01:29:51 PM
i will never believe Reloaded was anything less than...
by BMacSmith
Jul 7th, 2008
01:31:15 PM
the worst piece of shit movie ever put on screen. I will fight to the death for my right to preach about the suckitude of that 'film'. I actively hate it. HATE!

maybe Revolutions was worse, but my expectations were so low by then i couldnt tell.

Fred Nominate Dr. Detroit as Third worst movie
by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar
Jul 7th, 2008
01:32:36 PM
Dan Ackroyd on roll
Fred Nominate D.C. Cab as Fourth worst movie all time
by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar
Jul 7th, 2008
01:34:25 PM
Honorable mention to Mr. T
And while we are mentioning Ackroyd comedies..
by Jonah Echo
Jul 7th, 2008
01:36:01 PM
let's not leave Mikey Bay's Pearl Harbor out of the conversation.
Fred Nominate Over The Top as Fifth worst movie
by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar
Jul 7th, 2008
01:37:05 PM
Fred think this tied with Rhinestone, but Fred liked Dolly's hoo-has, so Fred give nod to OTT
Xiphos
by Hawaiian Organ Donor
Jul 7th, 2008
01:38:28 PM
AvP:R was beyond garbage. One of those rare movies with not one single redeemable second. And what's worse is that they put the whole project in the hands of these bums known as the Brothers Strause who weren't even old enough to see either Aliens or Predator in the theater.
Favorite Emmerich flick
by Mattyboy122
Jul 7th, 2008
01:42:16 PM
Is probably The Patriot, which is kind of like picking the winner of a beauty contest between the bearded lady and the elephant man. What's funny about The Patriot is that Emmerich is clearly trying to restrain his action movie sensibilities in favor of telling more of a sincere, somber epic, and I think the film, ironically, works better when it's trying to be the epic than when it goes into Revolutionary War-era action movie insanity. But the fact that such a conflict in tone exists in the flick really gives it a schizophrenic bent, but that's better, I think, than the out and out shittiness that dominates the rest of his work.
I'm going to get flamed hard for this
by Hawaiian Organ Donor
Jul 7th, 2008
01:43:55 PM
But as bad as Pearl Harbor was, at least it had the attack scene so at least a miniscule amount of redemption. You need to see the director's cut and afterwards you'll give Bay credit for pulling off something on such a huge scale that seemlessly blends practical and GC effects. There are a few shots where there is so much going on and yet it all looks perfect, it makes you wonder why they weren't interested in actually building a good movie around it.
Hawaiian
by just pillow talk
Jul 7th, 2008
01:49:03 PM
You make the large assumption that someone could watch that movie and make it to that point in the first place.
Hawaiian Organ Donor
by Mr. Nice Gaius
Jul 7th, 2008
01:49:40 PM
Nah. But you should be flamed hard for dissing GOSFORD PARK!
The glorious conundrum of the ID4 ending
by I am_NOTREAL
Jul 7th, 2008
01:50:57 PM
Is that it simultaneously isn't nearly as bad as it typically is made out to be, and yet it still completely blows.
HOD I meant AVP:R
by Xiphos_2
Jul 7th, 2008
01:53:04 PM
I was in a rush and fucked that one up. Fuck me running, Requium sucked diseased ridden cock, and not the cool diseases. No, AVP:R sucked the smelly drippy kinds of cock.

I actually hate AVP:R so much and by extension everybody involved in it and wish them all painful deaths, maybe something like getting eaten alive by a pack of wild dogs.

Freds _Balls I did meant to put nee in my post but see above where I was in a rush.

JPT, the D Backs are rancid. I was listening to the game over the internet last night and it drove me fucking nuts. The Mets will end up bettter then the DBacks, there I said it.

The Patriot
by Series7
Jul 7th, 2008
01:55:34 PM
Was Ron Dawgs only movie with an already bonafied Star in it. Except for maybe Universal Solider which came out at the height of JCVD's career. All of his other stuff stars up and comers, or been around forever (Mr. Jessica Parker, Bill and Dennis), but Mel Gibson is the only real huge star Emmerichs worked with. William Smith was not yet a mega star during his ID4 days. Maybe thats why The Patriot is as good as it is.
I am_NOTREAL: so true
by BMacSmith
Jul 7th, 2008
01:58:05 PM
Xiphos!
by Mr. Nice Gaius
Jul 7th, 2008
01:58:31 PM
How are you doing, sir?
Fred would like to change topic to Hidden gems
by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar
Jul 7th, 2008
01:59:59 PM
Very presumptous of Fred, Fred knows. But thinking of bad movies, made Fred think about the good ones that get overlooked. Fred really, really,loved: Into The Night. Ithad Michelle -Fred can't spell her name, and Jeff Goldblum. Elvis impersonators, Iranian terrorists - who were actually Greek, John Landis and David Bowie.
Pillow
by Hawaiian Organ Donor
Jul 7th, 2008
02:01:34 PM
I rented disc one of the Pearl Harbor Director's Cut and skipped to the Jap Attack (TM). The rest of the movie is unwatchable trash but a true movie geek does need to give that one scene kudos for what it managed to pull off.

Gosford Park was just like the English Patient in that it featured a group of reprehensible scumbags I could care nothing about. I wanted a German V2 rocket that had been circle around for years running off the fuel of good intentions to drop down on that estate.

RE: THE PATRIOT
by Mr. Nice Gaius
Jul 7th, 2008
02:06:08 PM
Can you imagine how many times Gibson must have bit his tongue while they were filming that flick? I can see him on the phone with his agent now:

"Yeah...yeah, I know. I know I'm only supposed to act in this thing. Look, don't you tell me this Emmerich guy knows what he's doing. I directed BRAVEHEART for Christ's sake!!!"

Regarding AVP:R
by HoboCode
Jul 7th, 2008
02:08:04 PM
You deserved what you got if you watched it even after seeing the first abominating film.
Fred say AVP:R better than Cloverfield
by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar
Jul 7th, 2008
02:11:39 PM
Both required the illicit Fruit of the poppy to be endured though.
Xiphos
by DocPazuzu
Jul 7th, 2008
02:13:51 PM
I was about to say "well wait until you see AvP:R!" but it seems that was the case. I would argue that AvP:R is so bad it actually makes the first movie look good. The last time I was as furious and insulted as I was when watching AvP:R was when I saw Highlander 2 for the first time.
Xi: welcome to the world of the NY Mess
by just pillow talk
Jul 7th, 2008
02:17:44 PM
Hawaiian, I have no problem doing that: kudos Bay, for the attack scene.

The Patriot is entertaining, no matter how silly it is. The final scene of them building his house...priceless...gets me every time...I'm starting to get choked up now...

And I've never seen AVP:R, but Cloverfield is better than that. I've got the first one to go by.

Damn. What was so bad about it anyway?
by HoboCode
Jul 7th, 2008
02:17:55 PM
My curiosity has peaked.
HOD
by DocPazuzu
Jul 7th, 2008
02:20:19 PM
Man, I'm with you on just about everything, but I can't get behind the Transporter 2 hate. The utter retardation of both Transporter flicks excuses them of all crimes.
I have not yet subjected myself to AVP:R.
by Mr. Nice Gaius
Jul 7th, 2008
02:21:33 PM
Funny - CHUD has a story that makes it sound like Sigourney Weaver has given some thought to another ALIEN film. She seems open to the possibility as long as the story AND director are solid. Now, enter Sir Ridley Scott who has just recently said that he wants to do another sci-fi film really soon.

I doubt it will even happen but...could it be?

Node
by Xiphos_2
Jul 7th, 2008
02:23:42 PM
we're a group of people with limited access to entertainmment. We have to watch what's available, I was hoping for something bad but entertaining, unfortunatly it was just bad with no redeeming qualities.

The only thing good about Ben Affleck fights WW2 and wins it by himself, aka Pearl Harbor, was the five minute sequence of the Zeros, Bettys and Kates making their attack run on Pearl Harbor. Other then that the PH movie was offensive on every level.

The sad thing is that there are fantastic Pearl Harbor movies out there like Tora, Tora, Tora and somebody thinks a classic like that can't hold a candle to shit stain like Pearl Harbor.

Fred say at least AVP:R had monsters you could see
by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar
Jul 7th, 2008
02:24:10 PM
Clovefield, just one big ninja tentacle.
M-O-M
by DocPazuzu
Jul 7th, 2008
02:28:40 PM
"You couldn't bar a Mars chocolate bar, much less anybody."

You complain about movies that treat people like idiots, yet you have no compunctions about treating all of us like idiots with your raping of the English language.

Furthermore, you wouldn't know how to enjoy a bad film if your life depended on it.

Pearl Harbor and Patriot were so bad they offended me
by BMacSmith
Jul 7th, 2008
02:29:23 PM
both were really insults to their respective events.
Ecks vs. Sever w/ the Latin lover and Lucy Liu
by GQtaste
Jul 7th, 2008
02:30:10 PM
has to be in the discussion. That was a major piece of shit! Or more recently, Blueberry Pie or whatever Jude Law and Nora Jones film.
The Fucking Patriot
by Xiphos_2
Jul 7th, 2008
02:32:08 PM
Will somebody please explain to me what the hell the following piece of dialouge means "aim small, miss small."

Now, I've had the opportunity to spend my adult life around firearms as part of my job. I have even taught basic riflery to Marine Corps boots and I can't for the life of me figure out what the hell that sentence means.

Maybe one of you big brains with your fancy educations could do me a soild and clue me in about that one.

Bay and Emmerich should make a 9/11 movie
by BMacSmith
Jul 7th, 2008
02:32:22 PM
where they explode the shit out of innocent new yorkers like Bay exploded sailors in Pearl Harbor. did he forget that people who were at the real Pearl Harbor are still alive? Nothing says honoring the soldiers who died like reducing them to Cg extras blown into the air for popcorn fun!
"at least AVP:R had monsters you could see"
by DocPazuzu
Jul 7th, 2008
02:32:25 PM
Really? Where?
Xiphos
by HoboCode
Jul 7th, 2008
02:35:43 PM
My only guess is that if you narrow your aim you'll have a better chance of hitting the overall target and thus miss less often? But that is strange.
AVPR
by Jonah Echo
Jul 7th, 2008
02:38:00 PM
was just loathsome really. It's hard to put it any other way. Alot of the stuff we mentioned here, there is a perverse joy in watching, but there was zero joy in that. It did make the first movie look good by comparison.

Highlander 2 was so much fun even as it destroyed the original. The other sequels were dull and lifeless. And it has been said already, but Critters was a good movie. In it's way, it was as good a commentary on 50s monster flicks as it's obvious inspiration Gremlins. Now Critters 2, 3 and definitely 4 which made brad dourif boring, were worthless. But not the original. If you must pick on a little critter movie and already mentioned Ghoulies, then Munchies is your target. Munchies.

DocPazuzu
by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar
Jul 7th, 2008
02:38:29 PM
Cloverfield Ninja tentacle - could only be seen two maybe 2.3 times in whole movie. Alien and Predator monsters were all over the place in sewers, swimming pool, and at drug rehab center hanging out with Linsday.
"aim small, miss small."
by BMacSmith
Jul 7th, 2008
02:38:39 PM
my guess: with those old muskets, if you aim at something small (like a head), you will miss that small thing. instead aim at the body.
"Aim small, miss small"
by Mr. Nice Gaius
Jul 7th, 2008
02:41:14 PM
Maybe they were trying to say, "Aim high, Air Force".

I'm only kidding, my stalwart Marine buddy! I keeed!

As far as gems go..
by Jonah Echo
Jul 7th, 2008
02:41:35 PM
in the arena of little creatures, there are two that are underrated: one is Small Soldiers, which I completely love as another "Dante blows up an 80s neighborhood" even though it came out in 98. The other was the short TNT film "Battleground" with Will Hurt fighting those little soldiers, and based on the steve king short story.
Freds_Balls
by DocPazuzu
Jul 7th, 2008
02:43:03 PM
I only saw amorphous, wet, black, hissy stuff filling the screen.
re Highlander
by DocPazuzu
Jul 7th, 2008
02:45:11 PM
You haven't lived until you have seen the original version of Highlander: The Source. It's astoundingly awful. You'll want to kill yourself when the villain starts singing "Who Wants to Live Forever" -- and that's one of the least horrendous bits of that movie.
Highlander 3 was pretty much a bland remake..
by Jonah Echo
Jul 7th, 2008
02:45:22 PM
if you watched it sober Danny. Best part was the wierd inclusion of a Loreena McKennit tune while Connor pounded on his sword. Loreena is by far the best of the celtic-style musicians and yet she missed the chance to do songs for LOTR and has had music in both Highlander 3 and Soldier. She must be very proud. DelToro, if you are reading this, give her a call and get her on board for The Hobbit.
Aim small miss small
by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar
Jul 7th, 2008
02:45:37 PM
Fred think: It means that some people intentionally set their sights low, so that if and when they miss, they will not be hurt as bad. Or, it means aim at center mass.
aim small, miss small...
by just pillow talk
Jul 7th, 2008
02:47:07 PM
Squint your eyes really hard and you can see the virgin Mary. It helps with the aiming.

CoC members need to silly creed to go by when conducting pencil jihad...just faith baby, just faith.

Doc, are you serious bout The Source?
by Jonah Echo
Jul 7th, 2008
02:48:03 PM
the villain sings that song? is it supposed to be serious? What happened to this franchise?

Anyone here see Hell Comes to Frogtown with Roddy Piper as Sam Hell vs. giant humanoid frogs?

Or Immortal Combat, which squandered a potentially awesome pairing of Roddy Piper and Sonny Chiba?

DocPazuzu
by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar
Jul 7th, 2008
02:49:51 PM
Fred think you may be watching Green Slime
Danny it is, but the problem..
by Jonah Echo
Jul 7th, 2008
02:54:31 PM
is it takes an insane movie and just reigns it in to a half-hearted sequel. It takes blazing stupidity and neuters it to mild retardation. In trying to fix it, they basically render it irrelevant. Give me the planet Zeist and all that other schlock over a pathetic re-vamp.
That's my point about that stupid line
by Xiphos_2
Jul 7th, 2008
02:54:43 PM
It makes absolutely no sense what so ever, and while I appreciate the effort of folks trying to explain it, it's just impossible. The contortions you have to go through in order to make it minimally less then retarded make it a stupid line.

The thing is, you don't aim for the head. Its the only part of your body that moves independently from the rest of the body in all three axis.

That's why since the advent of rifles as the primary weapon of the Infantry, the Infantrymen has been taught taught to shoot center mass. You can usually hit that on a regular basis.

Agreed Danny..
by Jonah Echo
Jul 7th, 2008
02:59:04 PM
Highlander 1-3 had the camp factor(yes, even the first which some people try to remember as some great thoughtful thing)but the following ones were dreadful, especially the series.

Did you ever get your hands on Invaders from Mars, Danny?

Xiphos
by HoboCode
Jul 7th, 2008
03:00:39 PM
Well I think that supports my theory the most. I'm proud. Suck it losers! ;-)
MNG
by Xiphos_2
Jul 7th, 2008
03:00:46 PM
I am well thanks for asking and except for a couple of Lance Coolies getting carried off by giant insects, the deployment is going OK.
Mentions of Patriot, Highlander, etc.
by Jonah Echo
Jul 7th, 2008
03:04:43 PM
make me think back to summer 2000, which might be arguably the worst movie summer in recent memory. The same summer gave us Mission Impossible 2, Dinosaur, Road Trip, Patriot, Perfect Storm, Shaft, Highlander 4, Bless the Child, The Cell, The Crew, What Lies Beneath.
Bored shitless by the Sony Pictures more like
by football
Jul 7th, 2008
03:05:01 PM
No natural disaster will prepare us for Roland Emmerich's man-made 2-hour shitfest. I prophesize that 2012 will suck so bad it'll be impossible to get rid of the foul rancid taste other than ripping out your tongue. Roland Emmerich is certainly no Irwin Allen. He hasn't made one movie with one-eighth of the character depth of an Inferno or Poseidon Adventure. And at least Allen had the good grace to return to TV after the dreadful When Time Ran Out... Will Emmerich emulate his hero and do us all a favour by fucking off to TV? Let's hope so!!
What's a Lance Coolie?
by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar
Jul 7th, 2008
03:05:12 PM
Related to Lance Hendricksen?
and ...
by Jonah Echo
Jul 7th, 2008
03:06:28 PM
Rocky and Bullwinkle, Coyote Ugly and Gone in Sixty Seconds.
Gladiator, Chicken Run..
by Jonah Echo
Jul 7th, 2008
03:07:51 PM
X-Men, Titan A.E. and to some much lesser extent Shanghai Noon were the few good things that summer gave us.
Scary Movie 2......
by Crackles
Jul 7th, 2008
03:08:59 PM
Was frakin hilarious!!!
DGDB
by Xiphos_2
Jul 7th, 2008
03:09:48 PM
I find the Patriot a rather boring movie that egregiously fucked up the history of the Revolutionary war in the South. It made a hero out of Mel Gibsons character, when in fact, the real life person was a nut job serial killer of slaves and Indians.

Also, I threw out the aim small thing as a joke and I didn't think anyone would pick it up and run with it. It did somewhat ruin the scene, for me, of Mel fucking up some Red Coats shit with a tomahawk.

Danial Day Lewis was better with a Tommy in Last of the Mohicans then Mel was in The Patriot. Fact

OK, so I guess I stand alone in my love for The Patriot
by Hawaiian Organ Donor
Jul 7th, 2008
03:10:03 PM
If we can gloss over everything else in life historically, I dunno why we can't give Emmerich a pass for butchering the American Revolution by making it so gosh darn entertaining. The ambush scene with Gibson and his two young sons is reason enough why it's a good movie.

And Bay's Pearl Harbor is an insult and an abortion but I challenger one person here to watch the attack scene of the director's cut and not admit it's amazing in it's grandeur.

Yea, 2001 was weak too..
by Jonah Echo
Jul 7th, 2008
03:12:15 PM
probably worse, because there were so many disappointments.Only stuff that worked for me then was Shrek, Moulin Rouge, A.I. and The Others.

In the negative you did have Mummy Returns, A Knight's Tale, Evolution, Osmosis Jones, Pluto Nash, Fast and the Furious, Tomb Raider, Cats and Dogs, Bubble Boy, Planet of the Apes, Final Fantasy, Jeepers Creepers.

Lance Coolie
by HoboCode
Jul 7th, 2008
03:13:04 PM
I suspect it's a Lance Corporal in the Marine Corp. but being carried off by insects I don't get.
Oh, Fred get it now: Starship Troopers! Great Movie!
by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar
Jul 7th, 2008
03:15:29 PM
Have Bugs in it.
A Lance Coolie
by Xiphos_2
Jul 7th, 2008
03:16:14 PM
Is a way to refer to a Lance Corporal in the United States Marine Corps. The reason, Privates and Lance Corporals are just that, they're coolies, and are used as cheap labor.
It's all good Hawaiian..
by Jonah Echo
Jul 7th, 2008
03:16:42 PM
It's ok to like The Patriot.I actually quite liked Indy 4, but usually keep it under my fedora. I didnt like the Patriot, but it did have it's moments. My biggest problem was actually the depiction of the villain who eventually became "IEEEEMMM SOOOOOEEEWWW EEEEEEVEEEEEEELLL!! to the point he is burning down a church stuffed with people and then finally has all the properties of a slasher villain and can hop back up with his eyes flashing open while the characters in the background approach him thinking him dead...
Jonah, you're breaking my heart
by Hawaiian Organ Donor
Jul 7th, 2008
03:17:06 PM
I loved the summer of 2000. Falme away boys, but I enjoyed The Perfect Storm, Gladiator, X-Men, Frequency, Chicken Run, The Patriot, U-571 and Titan AE. That summer stands for me as one of the best runs at the theater personally without a turkey in years.

And yes, I realize that it was also the summer of butchered history as Gladiator, Patriot and U-571 took huge liberties.

Well, Hawaiian..
by Jonah Echo
Jul 7th, 2008
03:20:30 PM
as Danny reminded me, 2001 was worse. I also really dug Frequency and U571 but remembered them being spring flicks and not summer flicks. Of those other movies you mentioned I liked them all except Patriot and Perfect Storm and they were both more like frustrating movie with good stuff and bad stuff, as opposed to "why did I pay for that?" I respect the fact many enjoyed them, and Perfect Storm was an "almost" to me. It just didnt come together quite.
The Patriot sucks donkey balls gentleman.
by HoboCode
Jul 7th, 2008
03:21:27 PM
Give me a break. Only a weak minded fool would be taken in by such obviously pandering and contrived nonsense such as that film. Seriously.
Fred's Lance Coolies are in a jar
by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar
Jul 7th, 2008
03:21:44 PM
Fred Think Famke was hotter in X-2
The burning question...
by mooli_mooli
Jul 7th, 2008
03:22:13 PM
Will they board the "space arks" only to find them filled with telephone sanitisers?
and so does The Perfect Storm.
by HoboCode
Jul 7th, 2008
03:23:44 PM
A defintie candidate for worst film ever.
its NOT ok to like the Patriot!
by BMacSmith
Jul 7th, 2008
03:24:05 PM
and if it werent so goddamn patriotic i'd call you a communist for liking it. that last moronic scene where he picks up the flag and single handedly turns the battle around was so bad i almost threw up.
If Fred get banned - Fred coming back as Freds Lance Coolies
by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar
Jul 7th, 2008
03:24:53 PM
Fred like that, but Fred afraid that if Fred get banned, Fred gonna have to cut off something else to put in mason jar.
i remember walking into the Perfect Storm...
by BMacSmith
Jul 7th, 2008
03:26:01 PM
and wondering why the hell i was about to watch people in a boat during a storm for two hours. Why did i think i would enjoy that?
Perfect Storm just like Cast Away
by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar
Jul 7th, 2008
03:27:42 PM
Fred scratch head about what made Fred go see those movies. Must have been marketing or nothing else better to see.
OK, I'll quit while I'm behind
by Hawaiian Organ Donor
Jul 7th, 2008
03:29:13 PM
I'm getting slammed on all fronts today. Danny, you gotta fight the good fight for me because I'm worried that I'll bring up more movies I love only to find out I should be hung for treason for liking them. Toss me in the ground next to Saddam I guess.
Perfect Storm
by HoboCode
Jul 7th, 2008
03:30:08 PM
My father, sister and I couldn't stop laughing at how stupid that entir shitfest was. We almost got kicked out of the theater. Probbaly should have. All we did was ruin the mouthbreathers' enjoyment of it.
2002 and 2005 were good...
by Jonah Echo
Jul 7th, 2008
03:30:23 PM
and I think this summer has been the best of the 2000s, but my tastes are a bit different I suspect..so far this is I wat I thought:

Iron Man-fantastic.

Speed Racer- quite fun, and actually had a decent story. A return for the Wachowskis.

Prince Caspian-loved it. A huge improvement over the original, and felt like more in keeping with the better Disney live-actions of the past.

Indy 4- It had flaws, but Ford was back and I actually enjoyed the story and it's approach. It was behind Crusade and Raiders but I never felt cheated, though occasionally baffled, and all in all I walked out satisfied. I understand that isn't the experience of anyone here, but there it is.

Son of Rambow- a classic.

Children of Huang Shi-didnt work for me. It was watchable, but too melodramatic and actors like Chow and Michelle were relegated to background mostly. Ended up being Hallmark arthouse.Not very good.

Hulk- It was a fun, good superhero flick but it was best for a Hulk fan who felt personally catered to by the film. Still, I wish we had the longer version. Good stuff though.

The Happening- not a so good it's bad, but a terrible terrible piece of crap that is far worse than almost any major release we have mentioned on here. Vapid, inept, useless and kind of hateful and stupid, stupid, stupid.

Mongol- a good epic film, though a bit cliche that gets tons of mileage off Asano's performance.

The Fall- masterpiece. Just stop reading this and go see it.

Wall-E- also a masterpiece. See this before the Fall. One of my new fave movies I think. Just pure awesome.

WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA
by Series7
Jul 7th, 2008
03:30:31 PM
How dare you speak negatively about the Highlander TV Series. That show fucking rocked! It had Roger Daltrey as a reoccuring bad ass Highlander, the lead singer of Fine Young Cannibals was on it as well. That show was awesome. But I will put Highlander Endgame on a list of worst movies ever made, fucking boring ass movie.
Jonah Echo
by Series7
Jul 7th, 2008
03:33:26 PM
Oh yeah man, saw the Fall on Saturday. Was an amazing movie, but I fucking had a bad allergy attack an hour into it and couldn't really enjoy the second hour. May go see it again because of it.
Jonah Echo
by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar
Jul 7th, 2008
03:36:21 PM
Wall-e was cute, but Fred not think it a masterpiece. It dragged, and bored some of the kiddies - and some adults too. It was a cute movie, but it not deserve all accolades it got. Hancock, not bad. Just need to be longer. Felt rushed ending. It have funniest moment though that Fred has seen in many many years.
Danny
by Hawaiian Organ Donor
Jul 7th, 2008
03:40:00 PM
I said carry the flag for me, not continue to take a steaming dump on movies I like. Help a brother out, yo. You defend one of my crapfests, I'll defend one of yours.
DGDB
by Xiphos_2
Jul 7th, 2008
03:43:42 PM
You're a strange dude, which major metrpolitan center do you live in, New York or LA?
I guess the Perfect Storm holds a special spot for me
by Hawaiian Organ Donor
Jul 7th, 2008
03:46:39 PM
Because it's the first movie I saw with my dad after he had a quadruple bypass and I had just gotten my first gig in the corporate world after school so he was proud of me and I felt like an adult for the first time that summer.
NOTHING BUT TROUBLE, is a masterpiece...
by TopHat
Jul 7th, 2008
03:53:49 PM
God damn it Beaks, why do you have to be such a snob!
Al Al Al
by Series7
Jul 7th, 2008
03:59:55 PM
All around the world its same song.
ID4 was more entertaining than frustrating..
by Rupee88
Jul 7th, 2008
04:02:50 PM
I am still a bit ashamed to have enjoyed it as much as I did in the past, but it was a cool movie for its time...largely thanks to Will Smith but also some great "money shots" as Beaks puts it. But Godzilla and Day After Tomorrow are just insufferable and I didn't even try to sit through 10K BC. Anyway, very well written review, Mr. B.
DANNYGLOVERS
by Mr. Nice Gaius
Jul 7th, 2008
04:06:42 PM
Whoa, hold on a minute. I don't think that the Discovery Channel's show, DEADLIEST CATCH, paints those fishermen as "heroes". If anything, it only portrays them as hard working men who put their lives at risk in some of the most insane conditions. Personally, I find that show to be quite compelling and one of the best things on TV.

The PERFECT STORM was just a handfisted attempt at bringing the book (of the same name) to life on the big screen. While the story of the Andrea Gail is sad and tragic, I dare anyone to not laugh when Clooney declares, "I always find the fish. Always!". It can't be done.

Now, that being said, I would like to nominate Captains Phil, Sig, and the Brothers Hillstrand for enrollment in the CoC.

"hamfisted" not "handfisted"
by Mr. Nice Gaius
Jul 7th, 2008
04:07:43 PM
Bloody typos!
2012, is that like the day after the day after tomorrow?
by SenatorNado
Jul 7th, 2008
04:07:59 PM
So what does this site know? http://www.theendisnear.co.uk
Fred liked Godzilla
by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar
Jul 7th, 2008
04:09:24 PM
There. Fred said it, and not take it back.
Matrix Revolutions fight between Neo and Agent Smith
by Rupee88
Jul 7th, 2008
04:12:42 PM
is still the best superhero fight ever put onscreen. That's not saying much, but it's the truth. Reloaded and Revolutions are abominations overall, but if you just watch the few great action scenes (with the sound/dialogue turned down), they are kinda cool.
Hulk vs Abomination fight was just as good if not better
by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar
Jul 7th, 2008
04:16:08 PM
Hulk Smash!
The Patriot was OK...
by _Maltheus_
Jul 7th, 2008
04:26:44 PM
...if a bit cheesy. It was nice to see a revolutionary war flick to counterbalance the non-stop WWII flicks, but HBOs John Adams series put it to shame. The Patriot is to John Adams as Saving Private Ryan is to Band of Brothers. After Band of Brothers, I couldn't even bear to watch Private Ryan again.
all i can say about the Revolutions Neo/Smith fight
by BMacSmith
Jul 7th, 2008
04:29:12 PM
is that the Reloaded Neo/Smith fight sucked a lot more. Good ole rubber CG Neo vs and army of Smithlike manequins! woohoo! good times. and dont forget that it was fought FOR NO GODDAMN REASON AT ALL!
octagonproplex
by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar
Jul 7th, 2008
04:31:35 PM
Fred liked RE's Godzilla, but Fred think you confuse production values with good movie when you say his worst is better than Japans best Godzilla. Fred say there are several Godzilla movies better than RE's worst movie - whatever that may be. Including Fred's all time favorite Godzilla flick - Destroy All Monsters
Matrix Revolutions...
by _Maltheus_
Jul 7th, 2008
04:32:05 PM

...was god awful and no, the end fight was one of the worst fights put to screen. It was so overboard and stupid that I don't know how anyone could compare it to the great fights of the first movie or even Reloaded.

Reloaded may have seemed real bad compared to the first movie, but it was ok on its own. Revolutions has absolutely no redeeming value, in any scene, what-so-ever. It was worse than anything I've ever seen from Emmerich.

sounds boring
by seabiscuits
Jul 7th, 2008
04:33:57 PM
rather watch a william henry docmantary or michael tsarion. they should bease it on one of those guys. serphant ropes, aliens, wormhole stargates. cool shit.
This is so not what's really going to happen in 2012, duh.
by bswise
Jul 7th, 2008
04:37:20 PM
Neutrinos microwaving the Earth's core = Escaped wolves from the Central Park Zoo.
Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar
by Series7
Jul 7th, 2008
04:37:56 PM
Its ok I like Godzilla as well.
BMacSmith
by MattmanReturns
Jul 7th, 2008
04:40:38 PM
I love it, and I make no apologies. I don't care for redneck, "America can do no wrong" patriotism, but Mel Gibson taking out a horse with the American flag is the coolest thing ever. If your heart doesn't beat a little faster after than scene, then you bore me. For all the Patriot hate on this board, no one's actually brought up a valid reason for disliking it. All I've heard so far is "I don't like when he says 'Aim small, miss small'", or "it fucks with history." With 'aim small, miss small' he's telling his kid a catchy phrase that will motivate him to hit the target. It's like something a coach would say in basketball to put his players in the right mindset. Big fucking deal. And a LOT of good movies fuck with history. Braveheart, anyone? Sparticus?
It's funny.....
by Crackles
Jul 7th, 2008
04:41:02 PM
That a Roland Emmerich story is posted and we're all talking about movies that suck sweaty balls! Fuck Emmerich! The only good thing he did was Stargate and that's only good because Jonathan Glassner and Brad Wright turned it into one of the best and longest running scifi shows of all time! Battlestar Galactica is the BEST scifi show though! Farscape comes in close second! But I fucking love SG-1!
*that scene
by MattmanReturns
Jul 7th, 2008
04:41:17 PM
Ugh. Edit button please.
What's up with all the neutrino hate lately?
by ElPaw
Jul 7th, 2008
04:52:39 PM
First Doctor Who, now this? I'm a neutrino physicist and I hope I won't be getting lynched soon by some tabloid-reading hippies
Last of the Mohicans
by MattmanReturns
Jul 7th, 2008
04:53:41 PM
Just a bunch of scenes in slow motion. Slow motion has some strange psychological effect on the brain that makes you think what you're seeing has weight and importance.
Plus the chick that threw herself off the cliff
by MattmanReturns
Jul 7th, 2008
04:56:10 PM
was way hotter than the main chick. So that pissed me off.
Gojira
by HoboCode
Jul 7th, 2008
05:01:17 PM
Octagon, do you seriously think Emerich's shitfest is better than the original Japanese classic? For "Chrits" sake! I think you need to have a bit more perspective.
Mohicans is one of my favorites
by BMacSmith
Jul 7th, 2008
05:05:01 PM
much better than fucking Patriot.
DGDB
by Xiphos_2
Jul 7th, 2008
05:17:55 PM
Nothing wrong with being strange I meant it as a complement, it means you walk your own road. I may not agree with some takes you have but at least they're somewhat orginal.

Also, if you could drop off the _2 part from my handle that would be like I got it back. Thanks

BRING IT ON!
by Hawaiian Organ Donor
Jul 7th, 2008
05:23:08 PM
OK, I just spent the afternoon arguing with one of my asshole friends who defended parents who shovel nothing but salty, sugary, fatty crap down their kids pieholes so I'm ready to go.

The Last of the Mohicans is a classic. Nothing more to say. And the soundtrack is one of the greatest movie score ever.

Crapping on Private Ryan and The Patriot because they don't measure up to miniseries that had infinitely more time to tell a story is like complaining that the blow job you got from Jessica Alba while she was preggers wasn't as good as the one she gave you a couple years ago. It's simply a ridiculous statement.

If you can't recall a good movie from *ahem* Japland since Kurosawa died, then you haven't watched The Machine Girl.

I'll give Emmerich and Peterson a pass any day of the week. 10,000 B.C. sucked. Guess what? That's what the stop button on your remote is for. Press it and go frolic with your wife instead. If you paid to see it in the theater, congratulations, you're a chump.

I didn't hate Troy as much as some people here and *gasp* I even found Poseidon entertaining. Peterson took a steaming turd and compressed it into 90 minutes of mindless fun. Besides, any movie with Kurt Russell gets a free pass.

The Donor has spoken and will now commence dinner and beer.

I don't know, this could be stupid good or
by Grammaton Cleric Binks
Jul 7th, 2008
05:35:25 PM
stupid stupid. Not all disaster movies are created equal, so we'll have to wait and see.
TomBodet is.......
by Xiphos_2
Jul 7th, 2008
05:36:42 PM
Wait for it, wait for it waaaaiiittt.... Not yet, Ok Now, HE'S A LION AND HUGH!
Private Ryan and the Patriot
by _Maltheus_
Jul 7th, 2008
05:40:57 PM
It's more than the time they had to tell their story. Comparing either movie to just the first two hours of Band or Adams was enough to proclaim the winners. Hell, in both cases, I came to that conclusion after the first hour of each miniseries. And I'm not slamming the Patriot either, I'm just saying that it was more of a popcorn revolution film. I actually thought it was universally reviled and that I was the only one who liked it. It's nice to see it get some love here. It was a toss up for me to watch that or a John Adams marathon last Friday, but I had to give it to Adams for my Independence day celebration.
Independance Day did have the best trailer ever!
by BMacSmith
Jul 7th, 2008
05:55:40 PM
i watched Mission Impossible twice just to see the trailer. it was stunning. never seen anything so huge before. the movie was ok. A good example of a dumb summer blockbuster that was entertaining. Unlike all his other movies, except neverending story.
oops got my bad directors mixed up i think.
by BMacSmith
Jul 7th, 2008
05:57:36 PM
but really, is there much difference here?
Last of the Mohicans
by kungfuhustler84
Jul 7th, 2008
06:06:15 PM
I still really liked the last scene where Chingachcook and Hawkeye follow Magua up the mountain. The score works really well. I remember as a kid thinking that movie was the shit, and runnning around with this big bent stick pretending to be chingachcook hacking at those damn Mohawks. I was alone a lot as a kid. Still, upon rewatching the movie I gotta say i agree. Apart from the final scene, it reallly does not hold up that well. I still can't believe Michael Mann directed this. I love that guy.
Patriot
by kungfuhustler84
Jul 7th, 2008
06:08:17 PM
again, i loved it when I was younger (that dude getting his head knocked off by a cannonball? Don't even try to tell me you didn't think that was cool) but it's really not as good any more. the ambush scene is neat, but the story and characters are too one dimensional. i highly doubt every single British soldier was an indifferent, totally eeeeeeevil bastard.
HOD
by kungfuhustler84
Jul 7th, 2008
06:10:35 PM
iff you liked try, check out the Director's Cut. It is even better and really brings the film into its own.
woah sorry Hawaiian Organ Donor
by kungfuhustler84
Jul 7th, 2008
06:11:22 PM
*if you liked Troy* damn, I am ashamed now
"The world as we know it will soon come as an end."
by BadMrWonka
Jul 7th, 2008
06:13:41 PM
god I hope that is not Beaks' typo, but rather a typo in the script. and I hope that Danny Glover (I'm sorry, I know I'm going to hell, but wasn't he dyslexic?) misses it, and the script supervisor misses it, and the editor has farmed off this scene to an intern while he pieces together the ark montage, and so they miss it...

and gloriously, I will go into the theater, and hear Danny Glover say "come as an end"...and I will stand up and cheer, and no one will know why but me and my English degree.

please god, I don't ask for much. make this happen.

Now *That* Was a Typo
by mrbeaks
Jul 7th, 2008
06:21:16 PM
But maybe they'll like my version better and change it for you, BMW.
The wheelchair scene in 2012...
by Mace Tofu
Jul 7th, 2008
06:27:31 PM
will kick ass. When John Cusack wheels Harry Belafonte down the ramp telling him there is no place for 'old dudes" on the SPACE ARK there will not be a dry eye in the theater. BOX OFFICE GOLD BABY! Another big money shot will be the dog jumping across the lava flow using the few large rocks floating by... just in the nick of time. Cue music: "It's the end of the world as we..."
Dark City and it's trailer..
by Jonah Echo
Jul 7th, 2008
06:36:37 PM
yes, the trailer was awesome. I recall seeing it on some dvd, and thinking where did this awesome looking summer movie come from, only to realize it was being released in two months in February. I saw it twice in a week, and then it was gone.

Bad Mr. Wonka, I suggest that as the release date grows closer for this you make posters that show an overhead view of the city and ala ID4, the shaodw of a giant ass looms over it with the words "The entire world will soon come as an end."

Aim small
by Mattyboy122
Jul 7th, 2008
06:43:19 PM
I remember hearing about this from someone involved in the film (on a making of doc or something), that aim small miss small basically means if you aim for, say, the button on a guy's shirt, if you just barely miss, you'll still hit the guy in the body, but if you aim lazily, and just at the general body that you could miss entirely. I donno if that makes sense, but I remember they put it in the script because it was the advice that the trainer gave the actors when they prepared for their roles (and I guess they liked it so much they ran with it).
and regarding other summers..
by Jonah Echo
Jul 7th, 2008
06:48:42 PM
Earlier someone was asking about comparing summers..

starting with summer 2003-Im sure Im missing a few..

2003- X2(good), Matrix Reloaded(o.k., didnt become a true failure til revolutions), Bruce Almighty(eh), Finding Nemo(great), Wrong Turn(uggh), A Mighty Wind (hilarious-best since Spinal Tap), The Hulk(I liked it), Terminator 3(better than I expected, but still..), Legally Blonde 2(never saw it), Pirates of the Caribbean(the non-animated high point of the summer says I), League of Extraordinary Gentlemen(NOOOOOOO!!), Seabiscuit(good, but overrated), Tom Raider 2(eh), North Fork(haunting and poetic, and in a good way),Whale Rider (liked it), Spy Kids 3(never saw it), The Order (ouch, ouch, ouch,) Open Range(very good movie), Freddy vs. Jason(wha??finally? who cares?)

I THOUGHT 10,000 BC WAS PRETTY GOOD
by BringingSexyBack
Jul 7th, 2008
06:50:53 PM
I actually liked the Apocalypto / 300 hybrid ending. And I shed a tear for Camilla when she got offed. Damn she is hot ...
YO XIPHOS
by BringingSexyBack
Jul 7th, 2008
06:51:57 PM
What's with the _2 ???
2004
by Jonah Echo
Jul 7th, 2008
06:55:34 PM
Van Helsing(wanted to like it, but nope), Troy(same as Van Helsing but I found Troy at least watchable), Shrek 2(funny but not up to the first), Day After Tomorrow(ha,ha,ha,ha,ha!)Chron icles of Riddick(ulous), Daddy Day Care(never saw it), Harry Potter and POA(the best of the bunch to date)Dodgeball( a few laughs)Spiderman 2(awesome, saved the summer) Supersize Me(eh), Farehnheit 911(no one cares now, but I didnt care then), Anchorman (funny stuff), I Robot(I liked it quite a bit, sue me), Garden State (good but overrated), The Village (great score, good cinematography, it's grown on me and I legitimately like it now, but yes, this was the beginning of the end), AVP (why? WHY?), Exorcist 4(WHHHHYYY??)
"Aim small, miss small"
by LewisWetzel
Jul 7th, 2008
07:02:01 PM
was actually the advice given to Mel Gibson and cast by the movie's firearms instructor, Mark A. Baker (who also taught Daniel Day Lewis et al on the Last of the Mohicans shoot.) It means aiming at a part of your target rather than the whole target will increase your accuracy. Basically a pithier version of the hunters' maxim, "aim at the deer, you'll miss the deer. Aim at the deer's chest, you'll hit the deer. Aim at the deer's heart, you'll hit the chest. Aim at the deer's right ventricle, you'll hit the heart." Gibson liked the phrase, so he had it incorporated into the dialogue. I'll admit the line confused me before I read an interview with Baker in Muzzleloader Magazine (yes, I'm more than one kind of geek). BTW Francis Marion, whom the Gibson character was mostly based on, was not a genocidal killer of Indians and slaves. That was a baseless dig made by a British pop historian who was (understandably) annoyed by the movie's many distortions and fabrications. There's no evidence Marion was any more or less culpable than other slaveowner of his time and place, and his only conflict with Indians came when he served in the militia in a British-led expedition against the Cherokee in the 1760's. In a letter he wrote to his family at this time, he expressed sympathy for the Indians whose homes he was ordered to burn. That said, the movie is a guilty pleasure at best for me. I liked the tomahawk mayhem, derivative as it is of LotM. And it's the only movie I remember where they show grazing fire, where a cannonball bounces along the ground and knocks off body parts.
2005
by Jonah Echo
Jul 7th, 2008
07:02:40 PM
Hitchhiker's Guide..(good stuff), Kingdom of Heaven(well done but unsatisfying..directors cut is awesome though), Unleashed(Jet was good, rest was silly, overall fine), Sith(loved it,great Star Wars movie), Longest Yard(why bother), Mr and Mrs. Smith(yawn), Howl's Moving Castle (classic), Batman Begins(last movie I saw as a single man, with my fiance at the time, and it was a great one), War of the Worlds(eh, it was o.k.) Charlie and Chocolate Factory(decent), The Island (doofy but I liked it), Land of the Dead (ugghggh..brains??....anyone?) , Deep Blue-very cool, Red Eye(nope), Four Brothers(the duke was better than Marky Mark), Skeleton Key(enjoyable), Sky High (good stuff), Madagascar(see, I almost forgot it), Brother's Grimm(I liked it, but it was limited), March of the Penguins(good, but overrated).
BSB's back!!!
by HoboCode
Jul 7th, 2008
07:05:34 PM
Damn I missed you bro. Node here. Have you been gone that long? Xiphos got banned. So did I. Separate incidents.
jesus, take away spidey 2 and 2004 was a trainwreck.
by BMacSmith
Jul 7th, 2008
07:05:50 PM
Lewis..
by Jonah Echo
Jul 7th, 2008
07:06:04 PM
nice elaboration on that point that has been floating around all day...
octagonproplex
by Hawaiian Organ Donor
Jul 7th, 2008
07:11:15 PM
Asian horror? Really? Dude, stay far, far away. Asian action is where it's at. And take it from anyone on this site, no one can recommend Asian action like I can.

ID4 trailer was about the grandest trailer we'd seen up to that point. Regardless if you hated the movie, the trailer made you think you were witnessing the second coming of Star Wars.

I actually bought the director's cut of Troy (Best Buy had it for $5.00) and thought it was pretty good. If people haven't figured it out by now, I'm terribly forgiving when it comes to movies. They have to be Fantastic Four 2 bad before I turn them off.

Mohicans isn't as good as the first time I saw it in the theater but I think it still holds up well. And it was shot about an hour from where I live.

AICN TBers are the strangest creatures on the planet. When Private Ryan came out I remember universal acclaim. Now it seems that half the guys here think it's shit. I'm looking at the movie poster hanging up on my wall right now and I'm tempted to watch it. I think Tom Sizemore is a god in that movie. All hail Sarge.

BSB, good to have you back. Not sure if we watched the same movie though. I kept turning 10,000 B.C. off. The last bit I had on as mostly background noise while I looked out the window and counted blades of grass on my lawn.

Malkovich chews the scenery in Line of Fire so fiercely I swore I saw him shaking salt and pepper every time he spoke.

Muzzleloader Magazine
by Hawaiian Organ Donor
Jul 7th, 2008
07:14:37 PM
Wasn't Script Girl Miss June?
doubling back for 2002...
by Jonah Echo
Jul 7th, 2008
07:20:08 PM
it was a pretty decent year actually..

Spiderman(aside from Blade II a month earlier, it had been a while since superheroes had been good, and this one was good), Attack of the Clones(didnt like Phantom Menace but didnt hate it, old star wars was never raped for me, liked this, felt like a big budget flash gordon or buck rodgers, great score, good visuals, perfect matinee fodder even with the bad dialogue), sum of all fears(barely remember it), spirit-stallion of the cimmaron(saw it in college with a girl who was moving away, colorful, bryan adams songs, it's a pass for me), Undercover Brother(I laughed and was ashamed), Insomnia(Mr. Nolan's second try, and I thought it was great), Bourne Identity(honestly, when this came out it was predicted here and elsewhere to be a bomb-a very nice surprise), Windtalkers(a bomb), Unfaithful(no thanks), About a Boy(good movie), Lilo and Stitch(awesome),Minority Report(loved it, think it's one of Spielberg's better movies) Men In Black II(eh) Reign of Fire (B goodness) Eight Legged Freaks(B mediocrity) Spy Kids 2 (eh) Signs(love it, great movie) K19(Wake up, Harrison, waaaake uup!) Stuart Little 2(cute), Big Fat Greek Wedding(I liked it), XXX(three strikes), One Hour Photo(pretty decent)

Kurzinski Valentine
by Hawaiian Organ Donor
Jul 7th, 2008
07:21:32 PM
Yes. Yes you are. Now you have something for your Wiki entry.
This is just going to be like Y2K...
by Anna Valerious
Jul 7th, 2008
07:25:03 PM
People think something is going to happen, and it DOESN'T. Sorry, but no matter what the Mayans predicted, I don't think it'll happen.
Beaks
by BadMrWonka
Jul 7th, 2008
07:33:25 PM
dangit! oh well...

by the way, I love your reviews, and it just occurred to be that the only time I've shown up in your talkback has been as a petulant grammar/typo nazi.

and really, that's only like 65% of my character.

keep up the good work. this pile of shit deserves to be called out for the shit it is, but also appreciated for the shit it is.

I'm 100 times more pissed at Shyamalan (for The Village, not Lady like everyone else. I jumped ship earlier) than I am at Emmerich.

lewiswentzel a rebutal
by Xiphos_2
Jul 7th, 2008
07:36:01 PM
Not to The swamp fox things because at the moment I'm overseas and far away(Yes that's a Led Zepplin reference) and not near my info but to the firearm issues raised.

Aim small, miss small make absolutely no sense, none at all. In fact it's a random words strung together to try and sound insightful. Just how exactly do you aim small with a .56 caliber musket that has an open iron sight?

You aim center mass and hope that the powder ignites because before the advent of modern smokeless black powder, these firearms had a tendency to not work due to the powder "flashing" out and not igniting, wet powder or undecharging.

If you're basing your argument on modern black powder rifles and powder then you my man are simply wrong. Modern powder and caps will ignite almost everytime. Powder in the mid 1700's not so much.

Also, that long ass quote about hunting you put up? I've never heard it or anything even remotely like and that counts numerous deer camps, competion shooting, the Army and the Marine Corps. Plus countless books and articals on shooting and hunting. Who said something like that?

I've heard things like trigger and breathing control, target visualization, shot placement and having enough gun. I've been told and told others where to shoot inorder to quarter the heart of a deer, elk, bear, Javilina and wild pig everytime, but the gooblygook you posted? nope never heard it, no sir. But I'm willing to entertain the notion that could be just semantics of how it was presented.

be prepared for a crapbload of 2012 news specials
by drewlicious
Jul 7th, 2008
07:36:06 PM
Remember all the stories about cloning when Jurassic Park came out? Or the global warming craziness (it was just the beginning) with Day After Tomorrow. It was meteor madness in 1998.
BSB
by Xiphos_2
Jul 7th, 2008
07:43:21 PM
I got banned.
Xiphos
by LewisWetzel
Jul 7th, 2008
08:32:29 PM
As I admitted, the line "Aim small, miss small" confused me, flapping as it did all unexplained in the context of the movie. But as Baker's instruction to the actors, it just meant that focusing on some part of the target - whether "center of mass" or some visible marker like the center bull of a bullseye, you're going to do better than if you just blaze away at the target as a whole. If you aim at center or mass, or the center bull, or the crease where the deer's foreleg joint its body, and miss a little, you will still hit something important. That's all it means. As for the longer quote on hunting, I believe it was mentioned in passing in an issue of American Rifleman or some other outdoor magazine, but don't quote me on that. I may well have been wrong calling it a saying, since for all I remember, the writer could have made it up then and there. By the way, I shoot muzzleloaders in competition every month. Percussion caps are irrelevant to a discussion of the movie, the Revolution, or to what I shoot, since I use a flintlock. In my case I use Brandon flints, made the same way from the same nodules from the same English deposits since the 1790's. It's true the black powder (not "smokeless black powder," there's no such thing) made by Goex and other modern manufacturers is closer to good-quality mid-19th Century powder than to the cruddier 18th Century article, since the saltpeter is purer. However, that doesn't make the 18th Century stuff more prone to misfires, it just means that they had to use more of it. A flintlock can suffer a "flash-in-the-pan" misfire if the touchole is clogged, or if the firearm is so fouled the face of the breech is caked up, but keep your gun clean and your flint sharp and properly adjusted, and it will go off. The technique for firing a flintlock rifle is pretty much the same for shooting a modern one - you just have to be extra careful to follow through, in case there's a hangfire. Shooting a flintlock teaches you GOOD technique. BTW you can get quite good accuracy with a muzzleloader, keeping in mind that a round ball loses velocity quickly and the range is necessarily limited. Rifleman Tim Murphy got a confirmed 300 yard kill on a British officer at Saratoga, and a Brit rifleman armed with a Baker rifle killed a couple Frenchies at an even longer range during the Napoleonic Wars. of course, the average grunt during the flintlock era was armed with the short-range, smoothbore musket, but that's another story...
NODE, HAWAIIAN, XIPHOS
by BringingSexyBack
Jul 7th, 2008
08:41:43 PM
Hey guys thanks a lot, it's good to be back! And what the hell a lot has changed around here. First of all I have no clue who Mr Beaks is but he's a pretty good writer it appears. Also how the hell you guys get banned? Did I miss an epic flame war? Did it involve Branerobot? Does MorbidObesity the eternal ignoranmus still think the economy is just fine and dandy?
Terrible Project from a SUCKY director
by Proman1984
Jul 7th, 2008
08:48:51 PM
He is no Spielberg. Don't make me laugh.
BSB
by Hawaiian Organ Donor
Jul 7th, 2008
08:53:35 PM
Xiphos got banned during an obituary. Called somebody a cunt or a twat one too many times I guess. And Node got banned with his colossal over use of alternate Incredible Hulk titles.

So same old, same old.

And in case you hadn't heard, our economy is rockin! Oil is down a couple dollars a barrel and Starbucks is only closing 600 stores instead of going completely tits up.

One more thing about the Yellowstone supervolcano...
by DarthCorleone
Jul 7th, 2008
09:48:53 PM
It's not just that it's a matter of "when" instead of "if." Yes, it's going to pop, and there's nothing we can do about it. it will destroy North American civilization and cripple the world's agriculture and economy.

The key detail is that this supervolcano has illustrated a very regular eruption periodicity of approximately 600,000 years. Guess about how long it has been since the last time it blew its top? Certainly with that lengthy of a refractory period, it could just as easily destroy us in 3008, 4008, or 10008 as it could in 2008, but the point is that it realistically could happen ANYDAY. And that is not Mayan folklore.
HAWAIIAN
by BringingSexyBack
Jul 7th, 2008
10:08:47 PM
Then it looks like it was a good time for a hiatus, as it seems the ban hammer was working overtime. Is Mr. Beaks Mirajeff's replacement killer?

As for this economy ... the latest daily crisis to hit - inevitably - is the mall crisis. Put your money into Costco, Walmart and Target. They are the future ...

I wonder if he took out insurance on this
by mr dark
Jul 7th, 2008
10:11:06 PM
Like Stanley Kubrick did with 2001. Kubrick took out insurance against alien life being discoverd before the film was released..I wonder if Emmerich drew up a policy against the world ending before his picture premired..That would be about par for the course for him..
Sorry if it's already been posted, but..
by Tarantinoholic
Jul 7th, 2008
10:16:12 PM
Someone snuck into The Dark Knight and snapped a few pictures with their camera phone, including a couple of Two-Face! Check 'em out here, but beware, spoilers lie within. http://tinyurl.com/6egdqn
LewisWetzel
by Xiphos_2
Jul 7th, 2008
10:51:15 PM
Of course they're are smokless black powder they were developed in 19th century and are nitrocellulose based. Also manufactured powders like Pyrodex are smokeless, but I'll stop here becuse this will turn into a boring conversation for everybody but us.

Last point, I've hunted quite a bit and participated in black powder competions and I have to say, I prefer a high powered center fire cartrides for superior accuracy but to each there own.

BSB
by Xiphos_2
Jul 7th, 2008
10:56:16 PM
Beeks used to be a contributor to AICN but then went to work for CHUD and has since come back home.
YO XI
by BringingSexyBack
Jul 7th, 2008
11:06:24 PM
How you doin'? Are you in the desert? Who was the cunty twat who got you banned?
I PREFER FLYING GUILLOUTINES TO GUNS
by BringingSexyBack
Jul 7th, 2008
11:08:23 PM
Schwing!!
Clarence Beaks... Clarence Beaks... CLARENCE BEAKS!!
by Maniaq
Jul 7th, 2008
11:17:52 PM
I got two words for ya:

STARGATE

Actually, from what you've described, seems only America is fucked in this movie - and the rest of the world... is maybe a little better off?

If you really want to appreciate modern firearms,
by LewisWetzel
Jul 7th, 2008
11:24:06 PM
Shoot a percussion revolver. Between the five minute load time, the tendency for the spent caps to jam the mechanism, and the fact that to hit a silhouette target in the chest at 10 yards you have to aim at the knees, you will be even more thankful for metallic cartridges and nitro powder. Back on the subject of bad movies: I've just finished watching one that, if it's not the worst ever made, is sure in the running. The High Crusade, produced by Roland Emmerich. It's a would-be Monty Pythonesque medieval slash sci-fi comedy, and Lord, is it excruciating. Stay away, for God's sake, stay away.
THE MAYAN MYSTERY----SOLVED
by thelordofhell
Jul 7th, 2008
11:24:32 PM
The reason the Mayan calendar ends in 2012 is so we won't have to see this shitball of a film come out. Please dear god in heaven, make this film 3-D just to add more to the pile.
THE PRESIDENT IS A BLACK?
by BringingSexyBack
Jul 7th, 2008
11:37:44 PM
Awesome!
2 x 1 x 2 = 4
by BringingSexyBack
Jul 7th, 2008
11:55:50 PM
4 is the symbol of death in Eastern cultures. You've been warned!
USS Kennedy vs. The White House...
by BurnHollywood
Jul 8th, 2008
12:07:06 AM
They got my eleven bucks...fuck it, I'm there. What's the point of CGI if you can't do stupid shit in a major way?
BSB
by Xiphos_2
Jul 8th, 2008
12:20:44 AM
Yes I'm over seas and far away and check in once in a while when I can. Today happened to be a day I was doing admin crap and I was by the computer for most of the day, hence the multipal posts.
Just saw Revolver the other day unfortunately
by Bricktops hammer
Jul 8th, 2008
01:36:16 AM
What happened to Guy Ritchie? I blamed Swept Away on Madoona but there's no excuse now. Not even sure I wanna see RocknRolla now. Also someone mentioned the fight between Neo and Smith in Revs as the BEST superheroe fight in history....Whaaaaaaa? Did you not see Supes 2 (dated but still great). Revs is an abomination all around. The only movie to actually make the movie before it worse just by it's very existence.
Memories
by Lost Jarv
Jul 8th, 2008
02:40:28 AM
What the fuck does this even mean: "You couldn't bar a Mars chocolate bar, much less anybody"
and just in case I forget
by Lost Jarv
Jul 8th, 2008
04:17:53 AM
You have no business contributing to a bad movie TB. Nothing you have ever posted gives even the slightest hint that you understand what we are talking about.

You are a nasty, whiny, hypocritical, pretentious prick that holds his own bullshit standard of "talent" up as sacrosanct and is utterly incapable of demonstrating that you "get" the so bad experience.

And stop lying about AvP- You were stoked to see that. The evidence is there from countless talkbacks, and who can forget your amazingly hypocritical "This christmas I'm booking myself a ticket to see Mr. Alien, Mr. Predator and lots and lots of Mr. and Mrs. Dead people."

Give it up fuckface.

and for proof
by Lost Jarv
Jul 8th, 2008
04:19:25 AM
Look at the post you've just put up- H-O-D said that Pear Harbour was generally shit, but he enjoyed the battle from a purely entertaining pov. You are unable to look past Bay and see his point. Pearl Harbour was shit, sure, and I didn't particularly like that sequence, but it wasn't dull.
Is it me or do German Film Makers suck?
by ganymede3010
Jul 8th, 2008
06:24:31 AM
Name one good German Filmaker?
ganymede
by Jonah Echo
Jul 8th, 2008
06:33:29 AM
Werner Herzog
Fred, you spelled Caidin wrong but I'll let it
by Grammaton Cleric Binks
Jul 8th, 2008
06:41:22 AM
slide as you honor the writer who brought us The Six Million Dollar Man. I was about ten when I actually bought "Cyborg" with my allowance and read the whole thing cover to cover.
Jonah-
by Lost Jarv
Jul 8th, 2008
07:13:34 AM
as the most knowledgeable B-movie expert can you help me out. I've recently blundered across an absolute stinker (by the trailer) called Humanoids of The Deep. Obviously this went straight to the top of the Netflix queue. Is it any good?
who made Downfall
by Lost Jarv
Jul 8th, 2008
07:14:09 AM
And are you dissing the Bad Dr Uwe Boll?
Wim Wenders
by Franklin T Marmoset
Jul 8th, 2008
07:17:47 AM
He's good. Used to be, anyway. Also, I like what I've seen so far of Tom Tykwer (Run Lola Run and Perfume).

On a related note, did anyone ever see that film Nekromantik? That was by a German guy, I think. Horrible film. Not bad necessarily, but just horrible to watch. Horrible like Henry: Portrait Of A Serial Killer is horrible.

99% of the general public don't know who Werner Herzog is.
by ganymede3010
Jul 8th, 2008
07:19:21 AM
I can't even pull up any statistics on him on boxofficemojo. I haven't seen any of his movies, and I doubt not many have. Please tell me you have some other examples?
Last time I'll bring it up
by Hawaiian Organ Donor
Jul 8th, 2008
07:19:48 AM
Thanks for having my back, Jarv.

Pearl Harbor is an insulting piece of nonsense. If I was a veteran I would feel like Bay slapped me repeatedly. But, there are several frames during the attack set piece where you see that they are using mostly practical effects with actual actors and there are dozens of things going on at once. Compare that to a scene in Attack of the Clones where you also have dozens of things going on in a single frame but it's 100% CGI. So all I was saying was that I have to give Bay credit where credit is due, no matter how much that pains me.

Herzog and Wenders are worthy
by Hawaiian Organ Donor
Jul 8th, 2008
07:24:25 AM
The guy who directed Downfall (excellent movie) also directed The Invasion so he loses points for that one.
Speaking of low-rent horror
by Franklin T Marmoset
Jul 8th, 2008
07:28:09 AM
Has anyone here seen Triloquist (released here in England as Dummy)? It's by the guy who wrote and directed the original Leprechaun and then went on to do Rumplestiltskin. This new one is his third entry into a loose trilogy of cheapo horrors about small things that want to kill you with knives and/or pogo sticks, so obviously I'd like to see it.

Any good words from the Ain't It Cool types?

Jarv
by DocPazuzu
Jul 8th, 2008
07:44:55 AM
Humanoids of the Deep is classic and awesome cheese. Beware of the 90s remake however, as it has neither tits nor gore. The original is about sea monsters that come ashore and sexually molest human women and stars Doug motherfuckin' McClure. Solid gold all around.

If you can, seek out the Japanese laserdisc rip as it is completely uncut *cough*cinemageddon*cough*

Franklin and HOD
by Lost Jarv
Jul 8th, 2008
07:49:06 AM
Frank- I HAVE to see that. It sounds great. And fuck anyone that can't see the glory in Rumplestiltskin.

HOD- de nada, any time that cock spouts off I'll slap him.

Mark Jones: Patron saint of tiny psychos
by Franklin T Marmoset
Jul 8th, 2008
07:57:39 AM
Rumplestiltskin was pretty good, but a step down, I think, from the magnificence that is Leprechaun. I reckon it was because Rumplestiltskin was more of an asshole than Lep. Baby stealing is not cool.

Anyway, I feel as though I have to see this new film about a small killer just for the sake of completism. I saw it sitting there quietly at Blockbuster the other day (the day of the Rambo/Juno double bill), but I was scared to rent it. Can it possibly live up to my expectations? Can Mark Jones do it for a third time? Will it have anything quite as demented as Warwick Davis getting pulled over by the police while driving a child's toy car and being clearly, you know, a very small monster with bad intentions?

Someone here at the AICN must know.

My fellow crapologist, Doc, is correct..
by Jonah Echo
Jul 8th, 2008
08:17:24 AM
Humanoids, the original is pure silliness, and it has the master in it: Doug McClure, and incidentally Vic Morrow as well, I think in his last role before the tragic Twilight Zone issue(Humanoids is 1990).

But to build your enthusiasm in carnival barker style:

See the dreaded fish-people who come to grope you and give the gift of fish babies.

See the annual Salmon Queen(a real girl, like a beauty queen sort of, cept with salmon) face off against the Uber-Humanoid in a battle to the...well, you get the point. Good choice. But don't show it to the yunguns.

Franklin...
by Jonah Echo
Jul 8th, 2008
08:20:24 AM
I mentioned Rumpelstiltskin above, and I must admit that any screenwriter who will allow an ancient fairy troll into modern times and instantly let it know how to drive a tractor trailer is someone to keep your eye on...ahem.

Never saw Dummy or Triliquist or whatever. Perhaps because my video store employee days are some 10 years behind me now, and I'm married and have to be more choosy with my schlock and my time.

however, if it's small killers you enjoy..
by Jonah Echo
Jul 8th, 2008
08:22:21 AM
Franklin, have you seen Cat's Eye?

or Trilogy of Terror?

in regards to Humanoids
by Jonah Echo
Jul 8th, 2008
08:23:07 AM
that should have said it is 1980, not 90.
Rumpelstiltskin
by Franklin T Marmoset
Jul 8th, 2008
08:28:22 AM
I seem to remember much of Rumpelstiltskin's plan was lifted from Terminators 1 and 2, which is pretty impressive knowledge for a guy who's been trapped in a statue for hundreds of years. Those Netflix people will obviously deliver anywhere...
Franklin..
by Jonah Echo
Jul 8th, 2008
08:29:37 AM
Excerpts from a Triliquist review, for you:

So here we go, how does one explain the plot of this movie without sounding crazy. Basically the film starts off with a women in a hotel room shooting up while here daughter and son sleep. Next to her is a wooden puppet that simply goes by the name "Dummy". The mother overdoes and dies and the kids are left homeless and orphans. Yeas later the kids along with the dummy with a mind of its own are off on the streets. Angelica ( Paydin LoPachin) is pretty much trying to follow in her mother footsteps, she drinks a lot and is really sexually active. Her brother Norbert (Rocky Marquette) on the other hand is quiet and does not speak, however many believe he speaks though the puppet, but throughout the film it's really not revealed if he is or not as it looks like the puppet has a mind of it's own. Anyway someone gets killed and Angelica blames her brother Norbert for the killing. But she plans of breaking him out of the insane asylum he's in because she and the dummy are the ones planning the killings. They soon break Norbert out of the asylum and continue there terror across state lines on their way to Las Vegas. Mean while on there way Angelica gets the idea to kidnap a girl for Norbert. She wants to keep the bloodline going, and want Norbert to have sex with a girl so they can have a baby. But things don't always go as planned and as the story moves on Dummy starts killing more people and the story spins out of control into a wild rollercoaster ride of a movie.

Overall, TRILOQUIST is a movie that you really cannot take seriously as a masterful film. It's poorly made, but it's also a blast to watch. It's a fun movie to watch if you can look beyond the many problems the movie has with it's production value. The acting is pretty good and the dummy in the film has some great one liners that are sure to make you laugh. It's one of those films that's so bad it's good. It is however a blast to watch and have a good time with.

Franklin, those are not my words, but the words of someone named Horror Bob. I would imagine anyone whose parents had the insight to give him that name would have a finger on the pulse of schlock. But be advised, it's not my reccomendation.

I will say this..
by Jonah Echo
Jul 8th, 2008
08:30:55 AM
any movie about a puppet that actually has a star named Rocky Marquette is on the right track.
I've added Humanoids to the queue
by just pillow talk
Jul 8th, 2008
08:34:55 AM
Alas it is not available to netflix as of yet.
Small killers are surprisingly popular
by Franklin T Marmoset
Jul 8th, 2008
08:35:29 AM
There's the ones I've mentioned, Jonah's suggestions above, plus there's Dolls, Demonic Toys, Puppett Master, Gingerdead Man - and those are just the ones I can remember. I'm sure there's a bunch more. Oh, Child's Play, that's another one.

Gingerdead Man, by the way, is shit. I had such high expectations for that one, but all the potential is wasted. That was a very, very boring film, even with nutbag supreme Gary Busey in it. I do recommend Evil Bong, though, which has a Gingerdead Man cameo in it. That was funny one.

Small killers are surprisingly popular
by Franklin T Marmoset
Jul 8th, 2008
08:35:29 AM
There's the ones I've mentioned, Jonah's suggestions above, plus there's Dolls, Demonic Toys, Puppett Master, Gingerdead Man - and those are just the ones I can remember. I'm sure there's a bunch more. Oh, Child's Play, that's another one.

Gingerdead Man, by the way, is shit. I had such high expectations for that one, but all the potential is wasted. That was a very, very boring film, even with nutbag supreme Gary Busey in it. I do recommend Evil Bong, though, which has a Gingerdead Man cameo in it. That was a funny one.

and for the ultimate in small thing warfare..
by Jonah Echo
Jul 8th, 2008
08:36:24 AM
there was Dollman vs. the Demonic Toys. Perhaps the most dissapointing movie that could have been made from that title. Hollywood, land of the remake, hear my cry: Here's the title you need to remake with a 150 million dollar budget. Dollman vs. the Demonic Toys. I bet you could get the rights for it from Charles Band for the cheap price of a Yoohoo and some twinkies.
Shit, haven't double posted in ages
by Franklin T Marmoset
Jul 8th, 2008
08:36:45 AM
How can I ignore Horror Bob?
by Franklin T Marmoset
Jul 8th, 2008
08:39:00 AM
That is clearly a Bob who knows his horror. He has therefore convinced me to check out Dummy/Triloquist tonight. What the fuck else is there to do on a Tuesday night?
and Franklin...don't forget
by Jonah Echo
Jul 8th, 2008
08:40:30 AM
Ghoulies, as was much maligned above.

And Dollie Dearest, chronicling the terror that ensues when you decide to build a children's doll factory on an Aztec burial ground.

And the early treasures of the genre:

Don't Be Afraid of the Dark

That episode of the Twilight Zone called The Invaders with Agnes Moorhead.

And Im gonna pimp it once more in ths talkback, Nightmares and Dreamscapes: Battleground, the latest and greatest in tiny creature stuff. Will Hurt as a hitman fighting a footlocker of little green army men and their tanks, helis and missles.

It's the 90's one
by Lost Jarv
Jul 8th, 2008
08:43:14 AM
And the trailer looked craptastically awesome. It was on the Warrior and The Sorceress DVD Which was shit, and not in a good way. Despite the awesomeness of a 4 breasted woman shooting poison darts out of her lowest nipple. It was jut a rubbish rehash of Red Harvest. And Carradine is the WORST barbarian hero I've ever seen. It made Deathstalker look like Conan.

By the way, the bird that played the Sorceress was also in Deathstalker 2.

I'll get both original humanoids and remake.

Is the god amongst men known as McClure the king of low rent horror or am I imagining things.

Nightmares and Dreamscapes was CRAP
by Lost Jarv
Jul 8th, 2008
08:44:34 AM
With a K. RUBBISH. I had such high hopes for it as well. I'm not sure if it was better than Kingdom Hospital though.
Ghoulies and it's sequels were good
by Lost Jarv
Jul 8th, 2008
08:55:06 AM
Critters 1 & 2 were good. 3 was crap, but 4 was good.

Chucky films have been on a bit of a high recently, what with seed of chucky.

But nothing will ever beat the sheer glory of MITTENSCHPIDER. You haven't lived until you've seen Warwick Davis explode from a space marine's cock dressed in full Lep regalia.

Deep. Fried. Gold.

Jarv..
by Jonah Echo
Jul 8th, 2008
08:56:56 AM
I agree with your ultimate assessment, but you really didn't like Battleground? I thought that was far and away the best of the bunch. The only others that were even interesting were Umney's Last Case and The End of the Whole Mess and they were way too mopey for a short vignette format. The less said about ALL the rest, the better. But Battleground..give it it's props.
Can't agree on the ghoulies..
by Jonah Echo
Jul 8th, 2008
09:00:50 AM
but I'll give you Ghoulies 2 which featured genre signposts Royal Dano and Phil Fondacarro. It did have the phlegm ghoulie whose sole hell power was that of being able to hock large amounts of phlegm that more or less had the properties of rubber cement.

part 1 was like the evocation of every parent's fears for their 80s rock loving, d and d playing child-that they would worship Satan and bring alot of really disgusting, not desirable little miscreants home.

It should also NEVER be forgotten
by Jonah Echo
Jul 8th, 2008
09:03:13 AM
that Leonardo DiCaprio was in Critters 3. George Clooney has his tomatoes. Jennifer Anniston has her leprechaun. Courtney Cox has Masters of the Universe. And Dicaprio has critters. It is as it should be.
To be fair. I didn't see Battleground
by Lost Jarv
Jul 8th, 2008
09:04:42 AM
I may have to. I only saw them intermittently. And they kept pissing me off through their lameness.
Holly Hunter was in The Burning
by Lost Jarv
Jul 8th, 2008
09:06:10 AM
A brilliant combination/ Rip off of Friday 13th, halloween and TCM.

And Kevin Costner was in Troma's Sizzle Beach USA.

Surprisingly, it ranks as one of his best films.

Ghoulies 3: Ghoulies go to college is hysterical
by Lost Jarv
Jul 8th, 2008
09:09:44 AM
I've only just discovered the existance of Gholies 4 as well.
Critters 3 broke the golden rule of crap horror
by Lost Jarv
Jul 8th, 2008
09:11:22 AM
If you want to make a good one, NEVER, EVER SEND YOUR MOSTERS TO NEW YORK.

But it did get back on track for Critters 4, which followed the rule that if you want a good late installment to a previously earth bound series then set it in space. Fuck you all that don't think Jason X is funny. It's hysterical, and has Cronenburg in it.

Hmm, I'm on a 1 man posting spree
by Lost Jarv
Jul 8th, 2008
09:12:25 AM
I will not let B-movie TB's die.

It's utterly against changian credos.

Jarv..
by Jonah Echo
Jul 8th, 2008
09:14:57 AM
You should def try and check it out..Maybe its on youtube or something. It's on dvd, but the episode they paired it with when it aired, the Lovecraft inspired Crouch End, is rather mediocre.

But check it out. A small cameo by Bruce Spence. Written by Rich Matheson's son and directed by Jim Henson's son. Will Hurt in a completely wordless performance and lots of good, tense fx work as the little soldiers attempt to really kill Hurt.

Jarv
by Jonah Echo
Jul 8th, 2008
09:17:40 AM
A-V-O-I-D Ghoulies 4. It has no muppets in it. It's a stupid cop drama with the character from the first facing off against the gal from the first, with two little goblins(just midgits with really, really bad makeup helping him, and that's basically it for monster content. While at least the first 3 ghoulies had the same style of creature,this one attempts to build off the thematic story of the first but just ends up making a lame, lame procedural flick with two dopey imp-like sidekicks.
also..
by Jonah Echo
Jul 8th, 2008
09:19:41 AM
John Goodman has a really small cameo at the end of Chud. He is also looking rather slender at the time, but it was the early 80s.
I know real Crouch End really well
by Lost Jarv
Jul 8th, 2008
09:21:01 AM
and I read King's introduction to the story. Frankly, I have to say that he must have been completely off his fucking tits when he went there. It's a dull place. No potential for uncapped evil at all. Just lots of accountants.

That Dreamscapes episode was horrid as well. I seem to remember it having the worst Cockernee accents since Dick van Dyke, chim-er-knee sweep to the stars hung up his long brush.

Jonah
by Lost Jarv
Jul 8th, 2008
09:24:26 AM
The first one had a theme? Fuck me, I completely missed that.

The good Mrs Jarv has spread Lifeforce around her workplace. She did good work with the Lep films- the cunts kept trying to borrow me pot of gore, and Deathstalker, but this was unexpected. It's a bit of a waste actually, because their recommendations are always unmitigated shit. And I always have to watch them. So far we've had Brown Bunny, Edge of Reason, Sliding Doors, The English Patient and soom bollocks called Black Oleanders (I think). Oh, and Tie me up, Tie me down- which I watched twice and still didn't understand. Almovadar is overrated, frankly.

seeing as we are on this,
by Lost Jarv
Jul 8th, 2008
09:26:30 AM
I want to see some love from everyone for THE STUFF. A devastating satire on 80's consumerism disguised as low rent shlock about Alien Yoghurt. If you haven't seen it make sure you do.
Yeah
by Cobbio
Jul 8th, 2008
09:31:27 AM
I'm glad Roland Emmerich makes his movies so I can know the things I'd rather not see in theaters. Such as: spectacle over character, slumming actors, poorly researched science, and utterly forgettable milktoast disaster stories.

But I'm still glad he's out there. He along with Uwe Boll, Michael Bay, and Brett Ratner. They all provide material to compare good stuff to.

re: Jack Frost
by Lost Jarv
Jul 8th, 2008
09:45:59 AM
Only good thing about it- Holographic DVD Cover that morphed between friendly snowman and evil one.

It made children cry in the local Blockbusters.

The film itself: rubbish. As the Doc says, they even fucked up a snowman-in-shower rape scene.

How do you fuck up comedy gold like that?

Jonah Echo
by Series7
Jul 8th, 2008
09:56:45 AM
Believe it or not John Goodman started off as a model.
Jack Frost was AWESEOME!
by Series7
Jul 8th, 2008
10:05:19 AM
If you've ever heard Patton Oswalts rant about writing a screenplay, I think this movie falls into that category.

Hmmmm, just looking into Jack Frost and I noticed that the director wrote the script for Identity which was a pretty good flick and this upcoming movie Shelter, which is getting press attention? This movie Shelter though is directed by the guys who directed this Sweedish movie called Storm. It was all over the banner ads here like a month ago. And I saw it and it was probably one of the worst movies I've seen recently. It didn't make ANY sense. It started out kind of like Wanted where this guy is brought into like a comic book come to life, then turns into this overcoming his pass mistakes in life and its just stupid. Don't be fooled like I did, even though I say I'm above banner ads, that mother fucker got me.

Also
by Series7
Jul 8th, 2008
10:10:18 AM
If anyone is here, has anyone seen or heard of a Bruce Campbell post apocolyptic future where humans live under the earth? Its a cheesy b-movie with a lot of 80's style gore...or so I remember. I can't find it anywhere and none of the movies on Bruce's IMDB page seem to match up with what I saw. Anyone still reading this a big Bruce fan?
Series 7
by DocPazuzu
Jul 8th, 2008
10:28:28 AM
That would be Mindwarp, with the awesome Angus Scrimm in it as well.
Mindwarp!
by Lost Jarv
Jul 8th, 2008
10:36:35 AM
awesome.
Van Helsing Hatred
by alanmoore
Jul 8th, 2008
10:51:13 AM
Y'know, I've never gotten all the hate for Van Helsing. Occasionally, when my friends and I are bored, we pop that one into the DVD player and just sit back and dig the silliness. I sincerely think that Stephen Sommers knew exactly what he was making; that is, an overblown, cheesy, ridiculously over-the-top "living cartoon," aimed as a cockeyed tribute to the monsters of the past. If I wanted to make a total and utter jackass out of myself, I'd claim that Sommers was -- whether intentionally or unintentionally -- attempting to use a silly, overblown comedy adventure as a mechanism for deconstructing horror-film archetypes. However, the film is stupid, and because I'm intelligent, I can kick back and enjoy it in all its goofy-ass glory. So in conclusion, I don't get the hatred. I may consider myself an intellectual in many respects, but when I saw the opening windmill scene, I was laughing my ass off. Not derisively, just laughing, having a good time, and digging the ludicrousness of it. And I'm pretty sure that's exactly what Sommers intended: Care-free, purely self-indulgent entertainment. So for me, the film works and is a success. And no, I don't believe in just switching my brain off when I watch films. I keep my brain on. But I refuse to shut off my heart and Van Helsing had plenty of heart, if nothing else.
Mindwarp was good stuff..
by Jonah Echo
Jul 8th, 2008
10:55:50 AM
Campbell has alot of B-movies Im not sure many know about. Sundown: The Vampire in Retreat. Maniac Cop 2. And the sci-fi craptacular Moon Trap wherein Walter Koening and a bearded Bruce go to the moon to battle robots, who much like the nemesis in Virus, show up as small units and use the debris and material around them to construct themselves into giant towering monoliths of destruction. Complete with Walter Koening sex scene in the moon temple with a girl he met five minutes previous.
The Stuff..
by Jonah Echo
Jul 8th, 2008
10:59:33 AM
Larry Cohen is awesome, and I quite like the Stuff. However, Im definitely going to say that Q was better as b-movie goodness goes. God Told Me To was also intriguing. It's Alive always felt a bit silly, when it was going for serious.

Don't see too much out of Cohen these days, though I know he did a Masters of Horror a little while ago. Pick Me-Up I believe, which also featured Fairuza Balk.

But hail the 80s when Cohen was working with his muse, Michael Moriarty on almost everything.

alan..
by Jonah Echo
Jul 8th, 2008
11:05:38 AM
You may have a point. I saw the movie once in the theater and started laughing(not derisively) at the windmill sequence, and all through the movie. When the carriage leaps the cliff with horses in tow and lands safely, I burst into laughter as did my friend next to me, but the douche who accompanied us(a friend of a friend, marginal aquaintance) actually punched me in the arm and started screaming shut the hell up over and over, to the point that an usher asked him to stop. This guy was so pissed, that it eventually rubbed off on me, and I just sat there attempting to take it as a serious action movie and getting angrier and angrier at both this waste of my time, and the waste of skin next to me. After the fact, he explained that he didnt understand how we could laugh through such a serious action movie. I kid you not. He did not understand that it was tongue in cheek at all. Which made me question it. Was it tongue or cheek, or was it intended as serious, and therefore horribly inept? But, I think I was right originally, and you are right now.

Sommers went over the top and beyond. It might not always be pretty, but I think he knew where he was going unlike say, LXG, which just ended up that way. Maybe I owe that flick another watch.

Sundown!
by DocPazuzu
Jul 8th, 2008
11:05:55 AM
Wooden bullets! Awesome!
You the man, Jonah
by DocPazuzu
Jul 8th, 2008
11:07:52 AM
I fucking LOVE Moontrap! Walter Koenig and Bruce Campbell vs ancient killer robots on the Moon! It's cheap as hell but there's so much love poured into that film. The frozen Moon chick's hooters don't hurt either.
It also didnt help Van Helsing..
by Jonah Echo
Jul 8th, 2008
11:08:51 AM
that Roxburough's Count looked like K.D.Lang meets Bono with dimestore fangs.
Jonah
by DocPazuzu
Jul 8th, 2008
11:09:06 AM
You should have have stabbed that shitheel in the mouth with a pencil.
Roxburgh's Dracula
by DocPazuzu
Jul 8th, 2008
11:09:57 AM
=worst Dracula ever.
Actually...
by DocPazuzu
Jul 8th, 2008
11:11:14 AM
...it was probably talkbacker Anna Valerious you were sitting next to. She's a "sommersverse" freak/apologist and somewhat... mannish.
Van Helsing was bad
by Hawaiian Organ Donor
Jul 8th, 2008
11:12:14 AM
I can't even remember the movie anymore, not one single scene. I knew Hugh Jackman was in it and that's it. I just remember sitting there with friends wondering how such an incoherent mess became a studio's summer tentpole film. We barely got through it.
Moontrap was fun..
by Jonah Echo
Jul 8th, 2008
11:12:25 AM
so much so that it inspired me to go through several moon related movies that were not so hot. It is interesting though, when you are versed in trash, the similarities you start to see in other work.

For instance, Moontrap clearly seems like Virus(but much better) and the other moon movie, Dark Side of the Moon was very much like Event Horizon. Dark Side was ridiculous though, postulating that the Bermuda Triangle opened out on the dark side of the moon, and was the home of the devil, who decided to catch himself a space craft ride, and would occasionally leap out of someones chest(offscreen) through a triangle shaped hole(Im not kidding) that he ripped in their stomach.

"sommersverse"? Is that something you made up, or
by Jonah Echo
Jul 8th, 2008
11:14:18 AM
do you mean that like there are a group of people somewhere who dress up or adore Stephen Sommers stuff? I assume it's a joke term, but I do confess the concept visualized in my mind was pretty funny.
Van Helsing
by Lost Jarv
Jul 8th, 2008
11:14:45 AM
Fucking HORRIBLE. Awful, swful shite. A complete waste of good B-movie material.

Where to begin, aside from Draculs...

Well, Frankenstein's monster was horrible, the whole idea of the only way to kill Crapula with a werewolf bite was also horrible. Wolverine was as wooden as a table, but seemed to think he was being funny. The Q character made me want to kick the TV out of the window. And worst sin of all: I actually fell asleep in the fucking thing.

You should have stabbed that shitheel with a pencil. As 2true has spoken, so shalt we do.

See Hawaiian,
by Jonah Echo
Jul 8th, 2008
11:16:43 AM
when I look back that's my experience, though I was trying to have fun with it. Seems like I might have hated it regardless of whom I was with.
It also says something...
by Jonah Echo
Jul 8th, 2008
11:18:43 AM
that in all the time since I never felt compelled to watch it, even when it was on tv,etc.

It could have been a great summer movie too. Oh well, we will always have Monster Squad and that IS a fine piece of monster work.

Re: Sommersverse.
by Lost Jarv
Jul 8th, 2008
11:18:46 AM
No joke. TB-er Anna Valerious (who looks in the flesh less like a woman than Mr. T), coined this irritating phrase to describe the creatively bankrupt world of Sommers movies.

She was unwise enough to publish Kosplay pictures of herself (here!!!! for fuck's sake) dressed as, I can only presume, Van Helsing. I would find them for you but they are so retina scarring that you would want to maim me.

Since Van Helsing 2 was announced as DTV, she started a campaign with a group of like-minded cretins to get it promoted to theatrical release. Thankfully this failed, and I've got a feeling that it was never made.

Funnily enough, the only SOmmers movie she doesn't like is the magnificently stupid Deep Rising. Which hits a lot of the so bad it's good buttons.

So, a new side topic for b-conversation.
by Jonah Echo
Jul 8th, 2008
11:21:56 AM
anthology films..the good..the bad..the ugly...?

Lets throw some obscure ones out first:

Into the Badlands

Deadtime Stories

The Willies

The Offspring

Grim Prairie Tales

Deep Rising is a ton of fun..
by Jonah Echo
Jul 8th, 2008
11:23:37 AM
I like Sommers original Mummy best of his stuff, and Jungle Book was good, but DR is good stuff too. LOVED the ending. But Sommers good output currently ends there.
the sommersverse actually scares me a little..
by Jonah Echo
Jul 8th, 2008
11:25:09 AM
and in my mind I pictured something Cosplay related but never imagined you were serious. I'm gonna lay of Anna V, because I suspect sympathy is more the order of the day there.
shee-it
by Lost Jarv
Jul 8th, 2008
11:26:53 AM
SOmmers made Jungle Book?

Wow.

Sommersverse Kosplay
by Lost Jarv
Jul 8th, 2008
11:28:51 AM
Imagine a Dump-truck dressed in badly fitting home made clobber.

That's it. Now imagine that it's staring at the camera with it's best "come hither" look.

Still with me?

Now if you can, imagine that the badly made stuff is actually showing some cleavage.

There you have it. Truly, truly horrible.

Grim Prarie Tales
by Lost Jarv
Jul 8th, 2008
11:34:05 AM
Seen it. Hmmm, Not the best.

I like the crazy old Hammer anthologies meself.

Talking about British films of that period- The Beast Must Die: when they stop the clock at the end, we play a drinking game where everyone gets an option and whoever draws the beast must drink as fast as they can from the time the beast is drawn to the reveal. It's deadly.

GPT
by Jonah Echo
Jul 8th, 2008
11:38:02 AM
It always seemed wierd that Dourif and Jones were in that. One of the few times the frame story is better than the tales. The stories had potential, but none were finished. Only one truly haunting moment involved the guy and the pregnant girl. What was up with that?

Beast Must Die. I remember seeing that as a kid. I used to peruse the tv guide looking for monster movies. I saw this title, and convinced me family to sit down and watch it with me. And it wasn't at all what I expected. Nary a sign of anything til the end. Loved it though, and even after that one viewing way back in the early years I can still recall the ending and many of the sequences.

Dark Side of the Moon
by DocPazuzu
Jul 8th, 2008
11:42:00 AM
That's the one with Joe Turkel and the computer shaped like a hot woman in leather, right?
Deep Rising was great
by Hawaiian Organ Donor
Jul 8th, 2008
11:42:09 AM
Treat Williams stole the show.

I need to watch that one again. I didn't realize Sommers had directed it.

You guys watch way more B-movies than I do. My B-movie knowledge is mostly 1950s stuff like Them! and Tarantula.

Grim Prairie Tales
by DocPazuzu
Jul 8th, 2008
11:43:20 AM
Actually, the bit with the "pregnant" woman is pretty good.
Haven't seen Dark Side of The Moon
by Lost Jarv
Jul 8th, 2008
11:44:28 AM
I don't stand a prayer at getting that one past Mrs. Jarv's Lovefilm radar.

I've got Amadeus and The Crow this week, because of her sabotage, which isn't too bad. Although it is a bit of a strange combo.

Deep Rising is indeed great.
by DocPazuzu
Jul 8th, 2008
11:45:44 AM
So gloriously dumb.
Why the hell...
by DocPazuzu
Jul 8th, 2008
11:46:43 AM
...isn't Moontrap on DVD? The mind boggles.
HOD
by Jonah Echo
Jul 8th, 2008
11:47:03 AM
It's probably mostly better that way for you. Most of the truly good B-stuff either happened in the 50s or the 70s and 80s. Not much these days that really garners a look see. I don't go out for it like I used to, but carry around a ridiculous catalog of it in my head.

FMB: I did, but it didn't help me too much. Good site though. Since I saw some Explorers fans on the Wall-E board, AICN is probably a good place to bring this back up.

Help people. How does one go about getting an inexpensive copy of Dante's Matinee on dvd. And barring that, how do we get it re-released?

For those who don't recall, Matinee is the flick with John Goodman as a William Castle type who brings his new movie Mant to town at the same time as the Cuban Missle Crisis. It's a classic.

What was the old hammer one with the train
by Lost Jarv
Jul 8th, 2008
11:47:48 AM
where the storyteller was revealed (in one of Hammer's shittest ever reveals- which is saying something) TO BE DEATH

MWAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA

It also had very unconvinving killer plants. It's very hard to make convincing killer plants, but these ones were especially bad.

There was a reasonably funny British spoof programme called Dr Terrible's House of Horrible (not unlike Garth Merenghi's Darkplace) that spoofed them all.

Jonah
by DocPazuzu
Jul 8th, 2008
11:49:43 AM
If you're region-free, which there isn't any excuse not to be, you can get a cheap copy from amazonUK for a couple of pounds. It may be 4:3, though.
I'm trying to get fucking lionsgate
by Lost Jarv
Jul 8th, 2008
11:49:46 AM
to release fierce people in the UK. I loved the book, and Diane Lane makes me happy in the pants. But they won't.
Dr. Terror's House of Horrors
by Jonah Echo
Jul 8th, 2008
11:50:13 AM
Jarv
by DocPazuzu
Jul 8th, 2008
11:51:45 AM
That's the one with Peter Cushing telling stories, right?
Doc..
by Jonah Echo
Jul 8th, 2008
11:51:49 AM
that isn't a bad solution. I am region free so I might try it.
Yes. Think so.
by Lost Jarv
Jul 8th, 2008
11:52:36 AM
Yea,Doc
by Jonah Echo
Jul 8th, 2008
11:52:46 AM
and it was called Dr. Terrors House of Horrors despite having Cushing named Dr. Shrek and it taking place on a ...train.
For more info
by Lost Jarv
Jul 8th, 2008
11:53:16 AM
on Dr Terrible:

http://tinyurl.com/62wk33

I know it's wikipedia, but it was reasonably funny.

For a truly mind-boggling...
by DocPazuzu
Jul 8th, 2008
11:54:29 AM
...experience, check out Night Train to Terror. They took three incomplete, shit horror movies and spliced them together with atrocious God vs Satan book-ends and an AWFUL 80s band performing on the train where the confrontation is taking place. Hilarious and disturbing. It stars Richard Moll and John Philip Law, which is a good thing.
the bit that killed me in that one
by Lost Jarv
Jul 8th, 2008
11:54:53 AM
is the fact that within 2 minutes it's fucking obvious that Death is dealing the Tarot cards. Yet like toolboxes they all sit and listen to their progressively more silly stories.

And they were dead all the fucking time. Which takes the sting out of it a bit.

But really, unless they're triffids, Killer plants are a bad idea.

best story..
by Jonah Echo
Jul 8th, 2008
11:54:56 AM
was the one with Chris Lee and Michael Gough. The Hand.
By the way...
by DocPazuzu
Jul 8th, 2008
11:56:57 AM
...how great is this talkback?
That's magical- that one Doc.
by Lost Jarv
Jul 8th, 2008
11:57:28 AM
*sigh* bad rock, incomprehensible bookendings. Marvellous.

A few months ago, there was Witchfinder General on British TV- they were doing a history of British horror and somehow failed to mention the Descent- and they made a big deal of it. For some reason I hadn't seen it.

It's suprisingly intense, Vincent Price is awesome, and the ending is beyond disturbing.

A top film. Pity the director offed himself.

Richard Moll
by Jonah Echo
Jul 8th, 2008
11:57:29 AM
did not fare well in the 80s. Anyone here see Dungeon Master? Maybe the worst fantasy movie ever made? Moll played the devil, or a wizard, or something...
This TB is THE shit.
by Lost Jarv
Jul 8th, 2008
11:58:28 AM
Dungeon master was just shit. Sorry, I just can't like it.

I'm working late, so will be on here for a bit,

We've jinxed the TB now, Doc
by Lost Jarv
Jul 8th, 2008
12:00:19 PM
Memories will now turn up and post trollish polemics about how all the B-movie badness that we love is actually cinematic talent/ debasement of the human race. In broken but strangely patronising English.

He'll call me something indecipherable and I'll lose it again.

Danny-
by Lost Jarv
Jul 8th, 2008
12:00:49 PM
No love for Peter Cushing?
I expect to see...
by DocPazuzu
Jul 8th, 2008
12:00:56 PM
...all you fine folks front and center for each and every Tales of the Ancient Empire talkback between now and its future release.
How bout Screams on a Winter's Night
by Jonah Echo
Jul 8th, 2008
12:01:01 PM
with Will Ragsdale, pre-Fright Night? That was a good one.

And yes Dungeonmaster was just bad. Not good bad.

Worst fantasy movie ever made:
by Lost Jarv
Jul 8th, 2008
12:01:42 PM
Dungeons and Dragons. Completely missed the point of what makes these things great. There was no nudity, bugger all violence, and a fucking Wayans brother.
Warriors of the Lost Kingdom..
by Jonah Echo
Jul 8th, 2008
12:02:24 PM
pretty bad as well..
I wonder if Quint has
by Lost Jarv
Jul 8th, 2008
12:03:28 PM
Matthew Hopkins Witchfinder General on his list. He should really.
Question
by Lost Jarv
Jul 8th, 2008
12:04:56 PM
Am I the only person in the civilised world that could not give a fuck about Wall-E?

It feels that way round here at the moment.

International crap
by DocPazuzu
Jul 8th, 2008
12:05:45 PM
Have any of you seen the Pakistani film, International Guerillas? The "plot" revolves around Israeli agent (!) Salman Rushdie and how a team of heroes dressed as Batman (!) do battle with him? The finale has, I shit you not, Rushdie being destroyed by flying, laser-shooting Korans -- a bit like the end of Raiders, except hilarious and rubbish.

I couldn't have made that shit up if I wanted to.

Dungeons and Dragons
by DocPazuzu
Jul 8th, 2008
12:07:46 PM
Yep, hated that one. You know a movie is bad when Thora Birch in scale mail and a bald Bruce Payne in blue lipstick doesn't make it compelling.
Wall-E
by Jonah Echo
Jul 8th, 2008
12:11:59 PM
Actually, it is a great movie.There is cuteness, but there is much more going on there, and it's the only Pixar I can think of where there is a significant amount going on that doesn't equal=kid's flick. Im not talking about subtext or the message-all Pixar's have that. I mean there is a significant sci-fi story being told that completely bypasses the cute robots. The beauty is the way the robots navigate this larger story almost completely aware only of one another, and not the bigger picture. In that, you have the set-up that reminds everyone of Chaplin. It's a terrific movie and I don't think it has been overrated here. And that's saying something.
Doc
by Lost Jarv
Jul 8th, 2008
12:13:58 PM
I remember that being released. It was about the time of the Fatwa and caused riots in places like Bradford. I saw it, and hated it. I think I was too young (being only 13) to understand the subtlety of the screenplay, or the nuanced central performances.

It was a half baked retaliation to the Satanic Verses, as I remember, and is well worth a look.

Not sure which was worse
by Hawaiian Organ Donor
Jul 8th, 2008
12:14:14 PM
Dungeons and Dragons or Aragon. How do you screw up a movie with Malkovich AND Irons? D&D was another of those projects were Hollywood suits decided to spit all over the source material and churn out a turd. A Wayans brother? Really?
Should I be banned from AICN
by Hawaiian Organ Donor
Jul 8th, 2008
12:15:59 PM
As I've never seen an episode of Dr. Who, new or old?
Hawaiian
by just pillow talk
Jul 8th, 2008
12:16:00 PM
I just caught Them! a couple of nights ago. I just love it when they shoot the antennas off the first ant they encounter.

Antenna doesn't get blown off, mind you, just gets sort of bent and floppy.

*shudder* I saw some of Eragon
by just pillow talk
Jul 8th, 2008
12:17:14 PM
They can't make shitty fantasy movies like they used to. Thankfully I haven't seen D&D.
How about...
by DocPazuzu
Jul 8th, 2008
12:18:50 PM
...If Looks Could Kill? Am I the only one who wants that on DVD? I know it stars that asshat, Richard Grieco, but it also has Linda Hunt whipping Roger Daltry to death in the opening scene. It also has the amazing yellow bikini woman from Piranha 2. Plus the hero is called Richard Corben and the villain is called Steranko.
Danny
by Lost Jarv
Jul 8th, 2008
12:19:15 PM
Glad to hear it's not just me.

Regarding Dr. Who: it's part of our cultural psyche. Much of it is complete tosh, and the special effects have always been bad (although this time it's light years away from how it was).

It does, and always has, however, had some of the most frightening stuff you can see in a family programme. Obviously the likes of Daleks blow, but if you have a kid- show it Blink. There's no effects and it is genuinly creepy.

Nowadays I'm not such a fan as I was when I was a kid (and my Dr was Sylvester McCoy FFS), as I think that frankly it may as well stick a feather up it's ass, grab a rainbow flag, move to San Francisco, and join a gay pride parade. And there is no reason, ever, to think Wales is important. These are 2 things bought in by Russel T Davis, who is (and this may astound you), gay and Welsh.

It is, when on form, fucking good television. And it is about 1 million times better than the bastard spin-off Torchwood. Which is like deliberately slamming your head in a car door.

Basically, for us- Dr. Who= culturally important, can be great, mostly shit.

Doc.
by Lost Jarv
Jul 8th, 2008
12:20:22 PM
I've seen that. It's great.

Roger Daltry really picks some terrible roles.

As a kid the local station had 50s b-movies on every
by Hawaiian Organ Donor
Jul 8th, 2008
12:20:39 PM
Friday at midnight and the Blob, Them!, Tarantula and Black Lagoon were cycled almost continuously. Those movies are the fondest part of my childhood.
Hawaiin
by Lost Jarv
Jul 8th, 2008
12:21:35 PM
Nope, don't worry about it. Who is only the longest running sci-fi series ever and this is a geek site ;)
If Michael Bay Wrote Dark Knight
by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar
Jul 8th, 2008
12:21:54 PM
Fred post this in intesrest of causing heart attacks and screaming hissy fits in fanboys all over. IMDB has link to 'script' by MBay - read and laugh or weep incoloably about kiddiehood being raped by werebaywolves.

http://my.spill.com/profile s/blog/show?id=947994%3ABlogPo st%3A355506

Fucking love Tarantula
by Lost Jarv
Jul 8th, 2008
12:22:11 PM
sigh, great times, great times.
I have the combo Them!/Beast from 20,000 Fathoms
by just pillow talk
Jul 8th, 2008
12:22:20 PM
I need to get my hands on more oldie but goodie sci-fi silliness.
Fred can't type. Meant inconsolably
by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar
Jul 8th, 2008
12:24:42 PM
MBay writing Dark Knight. Anyway You get point.

http://tinyurl.com/56dgxq

JPT
by Jonah Echo
Jul 8th, 2008
12:25:56 PM
I have that combo as well..it's a beautiful thing.

There is a collector's set, Ill have to look it up, that you can get for a decent price that has several oldies but goodies in it. Monolith Monsters was among them. A horror film about rocks that grow.Harry featured it in a dvd collumn a month or so back.

And since we are talking schlock, its time for the token mention of "The Giant Claw". And "Night of the Lepus".

Richard Greico
by Hawaiian Organ Donor
Jul 8th, 2008
12:26:19 PM
Saw If Looks Could Kill once, thought it was entertaining but that was back when I found just about everything entertaining.

Which probably explains why I liked the other Greico early 90s movies, Mobsters, which I only saw once as well.

Fred- can I ask you something personal?
by Lost Jarv
Jul 8th, 2008
12:26:33 PM
why a mason jar? Is there something special about a mason jar that I'm not getting?

I'm usually good at obscure references, but this one is going right over my head.

as for Doug McClure...
by DocPazuzu
Jul 8th, 2008
12:26:54 PM
...he was in those wonderfully awful rubber dinosaur movies from the early 1970s based on Edgar Rice Burroughs books. Can't go wrong with cleavage, cavemen and rubber reptiles.
I loved the old Tom Baker Who..
by Jonah Echo
Jul 8th, 2008
12:29:34 PM
I like the new as well, but when I was a child, I was actually spooked by the dimly lit, taped cardboard and foam costumes.

Also, for old b-movie fans, there is a 20 dollar box set of 3 Honda flicks totally worth it. There is Varan the Unbelievable, which is just so-so(clearly the filler) but Mysterians is cheesy GOLD and Matango: Attack of the Mushroom People is actually a good movie-haunting and thoughtful. In fact, even if you dont get the box set-put Matango on your netflix queue if you are any kind of sci-fi or horror fan. Seriously.

There is a horrible Rutget Hauer film called
by Lost Jarv
Jul 8th, 2008
12:29:45 PM
Bleeders that is the wrong side of awesome. It's just minging. And I didn't get how incest was a cure for Haemophilia.
Fred loves oldie sci fi fantasy b movies
by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar
Jul 8th, 2008
12:30:23 PM
Fred just watched Star Wars last night. That true oldie.
Lost Jarv
by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar
Jul 8th, 2008
12:31:24 PM
Pickle jar was taken.
There is a cracking Hammer anthology as well
by Lost Jarv
Jul 8th, 2008
12:31:43 PM
But Mrs. Jarv is being most unreasonable about it. She still blames me for Silent Hill. Even though she bought it. She thought it would be a nice surprise, as I loved the games, but now knows to ask me first.
Bleeders
by DocPazuzu
Jul 8th, 2008
12:31:56 PM
Un-fucking-watchable.
Just plain nasty
by Lost Jarv
Jul 8th, 2008
12:33:34 PM
when he eats the foetus that's been in the formalin (probably next to poor freds abused gonads), I nearly threw up.

A candidate for worst film ever.

Righto, fuck this, I'm off home. Keep fighting the good fight people.

Danny- both
by Lost Jarv
Jul 8th, 2008
12:34:22 PM
You know that it is sort of shit, but the kid in you still loves it.

When on form, it can be magnificent.

inspired by this thread...
by just pillow talk
Jul 8th, 2008
12:34:47 PM
I've just ordered the original Thing, the double feature of The Monster that Challenged the World/It! The Terror from Beyond Space, and C.H.U.D.

I'm so happy now.

Rutger REALLY needed the money doing Bleeders
by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar
Jul 8th, 2008
12:36:54 PM
That why Fred not become movie star. Fred knows Fred would wind up doing Moonbeam Zombies on the beach part 4 and hawking Tongue cleaners on TV when Fred;s career died an unnatural death, but Fred still had three ex-wives and twelve childern (none of them Fred's cause Freds balls are in a jar) and four dogs and a goat to support.
JPT
by Jonah Echo
Jul 8th, 2008
12:39:06 PM
That is an all around good time you just ordered up my friend. Want a side of Killer Shrews with that? Or some Crawling Eye for dessert?
Fred recommend: Monolith Monsters
by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar
Jul 8th, 2008
12:41:07 PM
Giant rocks terrorizing people. Fred not joking.
Jonah
by just pillow talk
Jul 8th, 2008
12:44:01 PM
I have to pace myself. It makes me so happy to find two movies together for like $10, such quality B sci-fi movie goodness wrapped together in a cheese sandwich.
well when the time comes, JPT..
by Jonah Echo
Jul 8th, 2008
12:46:32 PM
remember...M-A-T-A-N-G-O.
Monolith Monsters...
by just pillow talk
Jul 8th, 2008
12:51:59 PM
Didn't MST3k do a show on that one? I swear that's how I've seen it.
Vampirella anyone?
by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar
Jul 8th, 2008
12:53:28 PM
Fred Like Vampy - the comic book, not the movie.
Will Fred be banned for never having watched MST3K?
by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar
Jul 8th, 2008
12:55:14 PM
Fred love oldie sci fi. Fred inherit from Mom bad taste in b movies.
Anyone up for more "guess the schlock"
by Jonah Echo
Jul 8th, 2008
12:56:48 PM
Last talkback everyone kept mentioning mystery films they couldnt recall the names of. Was quite a bit of fun. Any takers?
Mindwarp
by Series7
Jul 8th, 2008
12:57:16 PM
So are you all in agreement that that is it? Yeah after reading the IMDB plot outline, thats gotta be it. I wonder why I didn't think that was it before?
Series
by Jonah Echo
Jul 8th, 2008
12:59:00 PM
It is def Mindwarp. No doubt. It was early 90s though, I think.
MST3K
by Series7
Jul 8th, 2008
12:59:47 PM
I think I am with Harry about this one, because I've never seen that much of MST3K, its certainly lead people to believe that they are a lot funnier then they are, and that there stupid comments are funny.
I think it depends on what one takes from MST3K
by Jonah Echo
Jul 8th, 2008
01:02:37 PM
I think MST3K did for some, what many of us already knew by the time it showed up...there is value in badness. I recall the first time my dad and I saw it-they were skewering Ator: The Fighting Eagle, which my dad and I had rented and watched together many years prior, and laughed back then. If you learned to have an interest in schlock based on it, then good. If you learned how to mock every movie you see incessantly regardless of whose around, then you got the wrong message.
agreed Jonah
by just pillow talk
Jul 8th, 2008
01:12:00 PM
I found it highly amusing to see them make fun of some movies that I had already seen. Ator is a great example. And believe me, their shit was pretty funny after recovering from a hangover.
And in comes M-O-M...
by DocPazuzu
Jul 8th, 2008
01:13:34 PM
...as clueless as usual.
I'm pretty sure they did Santa vs. Mars
by just pillow talk
Jul 8th, 2008
01:16:37 PM
or something like that.
JPT
by DocPazuzu
Jul 8th, 2008
01:17:58 PM
Don't know if you've seen The Thing from Another World before, but it truly is a great, great B-movie. I can watch that film over and over again. Kenneth Tobey was the shit. Thank God the DVD release is the reconstructed version they released on laserdisc during the 1990s.

"Close the door!"

Santa Claus Conquers the Martians...
by DocPazuzu
Jul 8th, 2008
01:18:47 PM
...with Pia Zadora!
Doc
by just pillow talk
Jul 8th, 2008
01:20:13 PM
I've seen it a bunch of times, but when I saw the price on amazon, I had to have it.
ah, that's the name of that movie!
by just pillow talk
Jul 8th, 2008
01:21:30 PM
And I remember them doing a ton of Gamera movies.
holy shit...I never realized Danny....
by just pillow talk
Jul 8th, 2008
01:28:47 PM
It was on Spike TV too. Here's the pic of an angry Santa!

http://tinyurl.com/65vmld

Santa's Slay is brilliant..
by Jonah Echo
Jul 8th, 2008
01:32:27 PM
When Santa explains the problem with the timezones at the North Pole, priceless..And taking the time to actually disinfect the stripper pole before he weilds it as a club. Brilliant.
opening scene...
by just pillow talk
Jul 8th, 2008
01:33:51 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =FKrsAFWPnl4

Love how he used the Christmas star.

Also..
by Jonah Echo
Jul 8th, 2008
01:34:00 PM
that opening where Santa wastes Fran Drescher, Chris Kataan, Rebecca Gayheart and James Caan...drowning the Nanny the in a punchbowl, after lighting her head on fire via wine and a candle.
and lets not forget..
by Jonah Echo
Jul 8th, 2008
01:36:14 PM
as we continue to recognize the placement of future stars..Emily De Raven from Lost is here.

And it was messed up of Santa to kill Saul Bellows with the menora.

Love him getting impatient with old lady driver while steering his battle bison on to destruction.

A talkback dealing with...
by DocPazuzu
Jul 8th, 2008
01:39:32 PM
...bad fantasy movies to a certain extent wouldn't be complete without mentioning Hawk the Slayer, a personal favorite and timeless craptacular. Honestly, is there a bad movie as consistently entertaining as HTS? It also has one of the greatest lines ever in a movie:

"I'm no messenger, but I'll give you a message -- A MESSAGE OF DEATH!"

That's right up there with Steven Seagal's "I'm going to take him to the bank -- the blood bank!"

nope, never saw it Danny
by just pillow talk
Jul 8th, 2008
01:39:43 PM
But that opening scene is rather amusing, though I would have preferred to see Kataan play it more straight there.

The initial punting of the dog, followed by Caan's look of "that's fine by me" was great.

Danny, I hate to admit it
by Hawaiian Organ Donor
Jul 8th, 2008
01:40:36 PM
But that sounds hilarious. That's a must see.

I can't believe I have to defend my position on Pearl Harbor again. I admire the scene for it's technical merits. They built hulls of the ships, they had hundreds of actual actors running around, the scenes of Zeroes straffing the airfield with perfectly timed explosions........it's all very impressive. So, last time I'll say it. The movie was TERRIBLE. But from a technical perspective, Bay & Co. get kudos from me for what they pulled off with practical elements, something Lucas and Spielberg failed to do on Indy 4. When I watched that scene a couple years ago I wasn't thinking how thrilling it was but paused it multiple times and wondered, "How did they pull this off?"

Yes, Santa's Slay...
by DocPazuzu
Jul 8th, 2008
01:42:03 PM
...is unusually good in this day and age of really bad horror movies.
DocP
by Hawaiian Organ Donor
Jul 8th, 2008
01:44:50 PM
OK, you have me in tears. What Seagal movie is that from?
Fuck Mindwarp is not out on the DVD's only VHS
by Series7
Jul 8th, 2008
01:48:28 PM
Fucking balls. Speaking of Pearl Harbor, I hate to admit it. But Micheal Bay not winning special effects for Transformers to a 20 year coke commercial was totally asinine. Bay is on the Oscar voting committee, he probably made sure he didn't win so Fan Boys couldn't nay say him. But he was all about getting that MTV Movie award for best movie.

Has anyone seen The Gingerdead Man? Or that Stan Winston movie A Gnome Named Gnorm?

sadly, I've never seen Hawk the Slayer
by just pillow talk
Jul 8th, 2008
01:49:42 PM
But I am completely and utterly sold after watching the trailer....

http://www.youtu be.com/watch?v=l8Ra6TsdEts&fea ture=related

Hard to Kill
by just pillow talk
Jul 8th, 2008
01:50:18 PM
Fred want to see Santa Slay
by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar
Jul 8th, 2008
01:54:41 PM
May have to go to Best Buy tonight and see if they have it
Wow, you're talking pre-DTV Seagal
by Hawaiian Organ Donor
Jul 8th, 2008
01:55:33 PM
I should know that.

If I was half the man I claim to be I'd go home and watch Seagal toss Screwface down the elevator shaft.

JPT
by DocPazuzu
Jul 8th, 2008
02:00:13 PM
The trailer is nothing -- NOTHING -- compared to the genius of the actual movie. Jarv will back me up on this.
I definitely cannot dispute you on that Doc
by just pillow talk
Jul 8th, 2008
02:04:35 PM
But I think the trailer does show the promise of something "good" in that movie. I just love the graphics of the hawk flying.

It makes me smile.

Gnome Named Norm
by Jonah Echo
Jul 8th, 2008
02:07:25 PM
with Anthony Michael Hall. It always was odd to me how wierd the gnome looked. Not cute at all, more like some almost actual animal. Now that I know Stan was involved it make sense. Movie was dumb, but points for a scene where AMH commandeers a vehicle for a police chase, only to just realize he has taken a hearse, along with a whole funeral procession. And he just didnt notice. Right. And then of course the whole procession takes place in a high speed chase.
So here's another topic for a whole other TB
by Hawaiian Organ Donor
Jul 8th, 2008
02:07:28 PM
Scenes that are recycled from other movies. Such as the installation explosion in Under Siege 2 being the exact same footage of the refinery blowing up from On Deadly Ground.

I think Star Trek also did this with a Bird of Prey exploding.

Hawk the Slayer is a gem..
by Jonah Echo
Jul 8th, 2008
02:09:44 PM
and should always be viewed with Yor:Hunter from the Future. Yor even had a song that wanted to be like the "Flash" song by Queen, but instead kept yelling "YOOOR" throughout the tune. Not quite the same.
Gamera from the 80s
by Jonah Echo
Jul 8th, 2008
02:11:09 PM
was just a few scenes of new stuff created around clips from the old movies. And yet it was pawned off not as a collection, but it's own movie. Hows that one?
DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar
Jul 8th, 2008
02:15:43 PM
Fred wishes Fred could comply with request to remove Fred's balls from jar, but alas some things are beyond even the power of Buckaroo Banzai to reverse. However, Fred will get Santa Slay at very first opportunity.
Those two-face pictures are really fucked up
by The Octagoner
Jul 8th, 2008
02:17:45 PM
That's some serious gore for a supposed big-money-machine. Way more fucked-up than he ever looked in the comics.

...just ...fucked ...up

Are any Brits left on this TB?
by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar
Jul 8th, 2008
02:26:25 PM
Fred hope 'Brits' not offensive, seeing as how Fred said Brits twice, oops, three times. Fred has question.
Pillow thinks Fred will have to wait until tomorrow morning
by just pillow talk
Jul 8th, 2008
02:29:40 PM
Speaking of Two Face
by Hawaiian Organ Donor
Jul 8th, 2008
02:30:12 PM
Watched Meet Bill with Aaron Eckhart last night. He pulled the old Deniro tactic of putting weight on and then taking it off for the role. Unfortunately, the movie was sort of awful.

And I have no interest in looking at the pictures. I want to be surprised when I see the movie. In the fall.

yup, TDK is right around the corner
by just pillow talk
Jul 8th, 2008
02:31:24 PM
No need to spoil anything else related to that movie.
think I'll watch This is England tonight
by just pillow talk
Jul 8th, 2008
02:32:57 PM
even though all this talk of B movies has me leaning in quite the opposite direction...
Here's a question
by Xiphos_2
Jul 8th, 2008
02:34:57 PM
Has anybody but me seen a terribly bad but great Spanish, low budget, action film from the 80's or maybe the late 70's called 3 Fantastic Supermen?

It's fucking fried gold on a shit sandwhich bad. Three dolts run around in spandex and weak little cloth capes fighting crime using things like Bolas and I guess what's supposed to be Spanish Kung Fu?

Am I the only person that has seen this craptastic piece of fried cheese Batman ripoff?

Now maybe it didn't make it to the states because I watched it in Mexico as a kid, but if you can find this shit burger, its fucking amazingly bad/fun.

just pillow talk
by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar
Jul 8th, 2008
02:35:19 PM
Fred has learned patience. Fred can wait.
Go with This Is England
by Hawaiian Organ Donor
Jul 8th, 2008
02:36:59 PM
You can do the b-movies on the weekend.
I'm sure either Doc or Jonah have seen it Xi
by just pillow talk
Jul 8th, 2008
02:40:48 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =9sz_x7BJ7Co

I just love the look of the third fantastic supermen.

Xiphos
by Hawaiian Organ Donor
Jul 8th, 2008
02:41:16 PM
That's bordering on Bollywood bad.

And no one here can come up with a worse movie than the Bollywood remakes of Fight Club and Oldboy, complete with dance numbers.

Xiphos_2 - Craptasterpieces
by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar
Jul 8th, 2008
02:41:32 PM
Fred not know movie, but when Fred looked it up Fred saw whole bunch of other B to Z craptasterpieces like Deep River Savages
god bless youtube
by Xiphos_2
Jul 8th, 2008
02:55:44 PM
I can't believe they have that 3 Fantastic Supermen on youtube. I was beginning to believe it was something I imagined seeing.

It was truly, horrifingly bad but oh so good. I was like six or seven and watching it in a crap movie house, in I think, Guadalajara or Mazatlan Mexico. Everybody in the theater was laughing at it and having a good with how bad it was. Ah, the memories!

Freds_Balls: to save you some time, drop the _2 off of my name or just write Xi.

Rutger Hauer=
by The Octagoner
Jul 8th, 2008
02:56:04 PM
'Blind Fury'. Awesome movie and Lucas stole the climatic kill shot for Darth Maul's death in the Episode 1 duel.

Just wanted to throw that out there.

Ratboy!
by Jonah Echo
Jul 8th, 2008
03:03:06 PM
Dear lord. What a wrong-headed, wierd a** movie. The title character ratboy was sort of repulsive and not a cute little boy who happened to look like a rat. He was basically an animal that sort of behaved like a human. He wasn't even really intelligent if I recall correctly. It was such a downer for children, who seemed like it's target audience. Did it even have a target audience?

On wierd kid's flicks, Peanut Butter Solution anyone?

And Three Fantastic Supermen deserves it's own talkback. Saw it shown in pieces at a friends house once, who felt like he had stumbled on the holy grail of trash.

And let's talk Super Inframan? A superhero who unbeknownst to him, had a hole in the crotch of his costume all movie long.

Xi
by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar
Jul 8th, 2008
03:04:57 PM
You can call Fred, Fred. Did Fred read you are deployed, as in the Army?
yes danny
by Jonah Echo
Jul 8th, 2008
03:09:08 PM
but again, he never was enough like a human that you sympathized with him. It was more like someone being terribly mean to a dog or something for two hours. Probably more sorrowful as a result.

That was a movie I had pushed out of my mind. You know..I think Big Rog reviewed it...I'll be right back.

Yes! Inframan - Jonah Echo beat Fred to punch on that one
by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar
Jul 8th, 2008
03:10:03 PM
Fred Loved Inframan!
Roger Ebert reviews Rat Boy..
by Jonah Echo
Jul 8th, 2008
03:13:46 PM
He has basically the same idea we did. Heres the review. He gave it two stars.

Ratboy" is a perplexing movie about a perplexing hero - a little creature that is half human and half rat and combines all of the least interesting characteristics of both species.

The rat boy lives in a garbage dump somewhere in the hills above Los Angeles, in a hovel furnished like a cross between a tree house and a rec room. Then he's flushed out by a couple of yahoos who think they can make millions by exhibiting him, and the movie turns into sort of a mini "King Kong" - complete with the scene where the creature breaks loose at the ceremony where it is being exhibited to the public.

I guess the rat boy himself is supposed to stir the same sorts of emotions, as E.T. or Pinocchio - miniature quasi-humans with high spirts and loneliness in their eyes. But the key ingredient in any fable like this is the story of how the creature originated. Unless we can complete the sentence "He is like this because . . ." we are looking at a freak instead of a protagonist. And the rat boy remains unexplained throughout the entire movie.

Instead, the film turns into an attack on the crass commercialism of modern American society, with special emphasis on the media. Sondra Locke, who directed the film, stars as a slick operator who hopes to benefit from her friendship with Ratboy. She meets him by posing as a reporter, but before long she's a full-fledged promoter, renting a Los Angeles theater so Ratboy can have his own press conference.

The implications of a true rat boy are fascinating; remember what Francois Truffaut made of his "wild child," and how intriguing the resurrected Neanderthal was in "Ice Man"? The idea of being able to communicate with another species has been the subject of lots of movies, including "Day of the Dolphin" and countless science-fiction films. But "Ratboy" doesn't seem curious about that aspect of its story.

It turns, instead, into a formula thriller - in which Ratboy and his protector, Locke, are arrayed against a mixed bag of bad guys, and the movie cops out by ending in a big chase scene.

I don't know about you, but I'm very, very tired of chases - all except for the good ones, from Steven Spielberg or William Friedkin. If a movie has introduced me to interesting characters, I want the story to explore and resolve their problems, and I don't feel fulfilled just because everybody chases each other, and the right guys win. Chase scenes provide movies with terminations instead of endings.

I began by saying "Ratboy" was perplexing. One of the things that puzzled me was why Locke wanted to make this story in this way. She plugs a fantastical creature into a screenplay made up of standard-issue Hollywood characters and situations, and ends everything with a chase rather than an emotional resolution. What was the point? "Ratboy" is very odd, but not in an interesting way.

Fred
by Xiphos_2
Jul 8th, 2008
03:16:29 PM
As in The United States Marine Corps.
Also..
by Jonah Echo
Jul 8th, 2008
03:19:03 PM
lets hear some love for House II: The Second Story. Honestly, this one is one of my fave B movies. It has cool creatures, a pathetically 80s sensibility and a BRILLIANT cameo by John Ratzenberger. It even managed to play like a poor/insane man's Spielberg instead of a junky horror movie. I love this movie. I don't even want to call it a bad movie. Even has a nauseating turn by Bill Maher, with the director utilizing him for full smarm.
And even though I really liked Indy 4..
by Jonah Echo
Jul 8th, 2008
03:20:00 PM
I think we can agree House 2 is the best movie out there involving crystal skills.
skulls..not skills
by Jonah Echo
Jul 8th, 2008
03:20:31 PM
and John Lone
by Jonah Echo
Jul 8th, 2008
03:22:53 PM
it was a good movie. And to tie John Lone into the B-movie train follow him over to The Hunted(the Chris Lambert one) and The Shadow, where he played a descendant of Ghengis Khan.
Xi
by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar
Jul 8th, 2008
03:24:57 PM
Oh. Marnies! Fred always liked Marines. Fred have questions: Do all Marines get swords, or just officers? Do you fight giant insects that suck your brains out - of your skull that is?
House 2
by Jonah Echo
Jul 8th, 2008
03:25:28 PM
also had the best use of Royal Dano with exception of Something Wicked this Way Comes. Royal got props earlier when Ghoulies 2 got mentioned. Royal also showed up in Spaced Invaders and Killer Clowns from Outer Space.

House 2 had to be his biggest role. And PugWorm. How can you argue with PugWorm? If I could have any movie character created into a collectable toy, it would be House II's pug worm, but he would need to be soft, rubbery and probably a puppet for maximum value.

Fred thought Arye Gross and Bill Maher were one in same
by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar
Jul 8th, 2008
03:29:29 PM
For a long time.
Danny..
by Jonah Echo
Jul 8th, 2008
03:30:06 PM
no, don't need to see House 1. It's a slightly fun, but kinda junky horror comedy. It's a good time, but not on the same level of awesome as House II. House also has a Cheers cameo though, by George Wendt. Wendt is fine, but is blown away by Ratzenberger in the sequel. I can't even explain his cameo for fear of ruining it.

And tying to previous convs,Richard Moll was the villain of the original House.

And Brion James, god bless him, was in a non-related flick called Horror Show with Lance Henrickson that later got labeled House 3, allowing the House franchise to skip a legitimate House movie and make House 4 with William Katt back but a different character with the same name in a totally different house. But House 4 did have the Phlegm-O-Matic(it was called that in the movie) and the singing pizza-"I'm your Pizza Man!"

Danny, the pug worm
by Jonah Echo
Jul 8th, 2008
03:31:48 PM
was it's own unique creature, but yes, I think for wierd cuteness, Jean Baptiste Emmanuel Zorg's rainbow elephant would also make a great toy.
This talkback has basically decided for me..
by Jonah Echo
Jul 8th, 2008
03:34:37 PM
I'm buying House/House II double set and having a crap movie night at my house. House II on the projector, baby! Like using oil paints to touch up the stairwell.
DGDB
by Xiphos_2
Jul 8th, 2008
03:39:54 PM
1. Its 9:30 Pm where I'm at and we have computers here.

2. Yesterday I was doing some admin crap and I had the computer to myself all day, so I posted.

3. I have insomia so I post a lot late at night where I'm at.

4. I post like 1/5 the amount I used to because from 29 Oct 06 through March of this year I was either in the Hospital, rehab joints or working part time as a floating NCOIC of recruiting stations, so I had lots of free time. Since I went back on full time active duty in April I slowed down with the posting. Until yesterday I have posted maybe once every couple of days and starting Thrusday it will be like two weeks untill I post again.

Fred
by Xiphos_2
Jul 8th, 2008
03:46:46 PM
NCO also have Dress swords. It a different pattern from the "Mameluke style" that Officers wear.
Xiphos
by Hawaiian Organ Donor
Jul 8th, 2008
04:00:26 PM
You make me sad that I'm worthless and not doing anything in the amazing capacity that you are. Hats off to you good sir.

Danny, do you cheer for the aliens and earthquakes in disaster movies?

Xi, are you an officer or NCO, or a grunt?
by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar
Jul 8th, 2008
04:00:32 PM
Is grunt the right term for Marine, or do you prefer jarhead? Fred hopes that not offensive, Fred likes Marines, they have best uniforms.
HOD
by Xiphos_2
Jul 8th, 2008
04:15:22 PM
For the most part, nobodys worthless, I'm sure you do a good job at whatever enterprise puts food on your table.

Thanks for the kind words but its not anything amazing what I do, it just happens to be where my skill sets are, nothing more.

Fred
by Xiphos_2
Jul 8th, 2008
04:24:08 PM
I'm an NCO a Master Sergeant.

Grunts are a term usually associated with Army Infantry but since the precision of the English language has degraded so much the word the word grunt has become synonomous with any Infantrymen regardless of branch of service.

Yes sir we have the best uniforms its the one of the best recruiting tool we have.

The Propaganda arm aka the folks who make the commercials pimp it hard.

Danny
by Hawaiian Organ Donor
Jul 8th, 2008
05:02:21 PM
You mentioned how you care more about an animal's welfare than a person's (I'm right with you there, so much so that I became a vegetarian many years ago) and if you're anything like me you think humanity is a plague and therefore whenever there's a movie that signals our demise, I always root for the force of nature or alien invaders.
Speaking of signals..
by Jonah Echo
Jul 8th, 2008
05:14:17 PM
The Signal is out on dvd. Has everyone here seen that? Cause if not, I highly reccomend it.

And I might be too late, but I think it's time to spread the wealth in another talkback. If you look at the mainpage you will KNOW which one I mean.

Tom
by Jonah Echo
Jul 8th, 2008
06:45:28 PM
Latitude Zero-yep, we have spoken on this one before. I think Xiphos was talking about robots and flying lions, and was pleased to inform him that this one has BOTH!

And Caeser Romero. How can you go wrong?

Cut-rate Buddy EbseN=Royal Dano. Right on the money.

Though it's rather well known, War of the Gargantuas was always a favorite schlocker. Especially the dubbed tv. version with the song "The Words get stuck in my throat" or something like that.

Emmerich: His Films Lack Drama
by DrManhattansUnit
Jul 8th, 2008
06:54:07 PM
His films lack tension, his work defies the will to defy convention.
Tom...did you know..
by Jonah Echo
Jul 8th, 2008
09:41:34 PM
that in the Japanese variants of Frakenstein Conquers the World and War of the Gargantuas that the latter film is actually a sequel to the former? No really. The remainder of the frankenstein heart has split off somehow into two creatures-one mean and spiteful and one gentle. It was an actual sequel, though vaguely obviously, to the first film. I love them both. The Japanese version of Frankie has him also fighting an octopus beast after he bests Baragon.

In the early 2000s, Stan Winston hosted a show highlighting early fx work and they always played the really cheesy stuff: Invasion of the Eye Creatures, FCTW, Equinox, etc.

Trail of the Screaming Forehead
by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar
Jul 8th, 2008
09:52:25 PM
Fred not make that up. Fred have question for Jonah Echo, Lost Jarv DocPazuzu et al. How do movies like Trail of Screaming Forehead, or Her Morbid Desires get made, where are thet shown. Fred lives in fairly big city and Fred never heard of these types of movies. Are they just DTV or is there some underground movue market. Fred remember Sybil Danning being big in B movies, before DTV and Fred never saw one of her movies until cable. Fred would like to know if Fred is missing more than just Freds balls.
Lost Jarv
by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar
Jul 8th, 2008
09:54:36 PM
Fred want to know if you ever seen Carry On Screaming? Fred thought that was one of funniest Carry On movies ever. Monsters, ghoulies, and cleavage.
Yup, I love carry on films
by Lost Jarv
Jul 9th, 2008
02:12:44 AM
Apart from, obviously, Carry on Emmanuelle and Carry on Columbus.

Which were shit.

Mrs Jarv hates all of them. Desribing them as "funny as a trip to a gyno". I pointed out to her that there is plenty of comic mileage to be had out of a stupid bloke going to a gynocologist, but that just got me a frosty look and ban on bedroom priveleges. Sometimes women don't have a sense of humour.

On other crappy movies there's an absolute fucking stinker called Vampirefellas or something like that- it looks like it was shot on home video in a warehouse. And unsuprisingly features Vampire mobsters. They've all got really bad "fuhgeddaboutit" accents. It's great.

And, on this score, where's the love for TROMA. Fuck me, Tromeo and Juliet, Chopper Chicks Take Zombietown, Class of Nuke Em High 3: The Good the Bad and The subhumanoid, Nymphoid Barbarian in Dinosaur Hell (hysterical- semi-naked chick has problems when "sometimes my juices flow" and has to escape the chewitt monster) and my personal favourite- Surf Nazi's must die.

There's also some horrid sub-troma dreck out there- Femme Fontaine: Killer Babe for the CIA leaping to mind. Which is poo. The film is actually a 45 minute trailer for the film that repeats itself 3 times. Avoid. And she's minging. It should be called Femme Fontaine, killer pig for the cia.

and Hawk the Slayer is the SHIT.
by Lost Jarv
Jul 9th, 2008
02:15:20 AM
See Spaced for ultimate proof.

Finally:

FUCK OFF MEMORIES. YOUR TEDIOUS RANT ON BAY HAS NO BUSINESS BEAN IN A TALKBACK ABOUT AWESOMELY BAD MOVIES.

You have never shown the slightest sign of understanding the premise, and your presence here sullies the glory of such masterpieces such as House 2. FUCK OFF.

It heartens me
by Lost Jarv
Jul 9th, 2008
02:17:07 AM
that this TB is holding off the 2 forces of Tarantino and Wall-E.

This is good.

PS.
by Lost Jarv
Jul 9th, 2008
02:18:25 AM
Red Dawn was on British TV last night. I hadn't seen it since the 80's and had forgotten how good it was. Despite growing up in San Fransisco, the wife had never seen it.

WOLVERINES!

Why the fuck have I been in work since 7?
by Lost Jarv
Jul 9th, 2008
02:19:10 AM
this is shit. I'm spending more time here than at home.

Pah.

dude
by chipps
Jul 9th, 2008
03:22:17 AM
you are totally having a conversation with yourself
and now with you.
by Lost Jarv
Jul 9th, 2008
03:32:19 AM
Isn't the internet fun?
yes
by chipps
Jul 9th, 2008
03:33:41 AM
and educational
EntertINMENT value
by eXcommunicated
Jul 9th, 2008
03:40:57 AM
I derive more entertainment from reading these talkbacks than from all of Emmerich's movies combined.
better than work anyway
by Lost Jarv
Jul 9th, 2008
03:44:06 AM
heh.
monster2Bpitied
by Xiphos_2
Jul 9th, 2008
03:55:50 AM
Thank you very much for taking up on my account I appreciate it. The way I figure it if everybody dropped off the _2 then I got my name back.

Once again, thanks for having my back.

I'd like to go back to that twattish post of Memories, again
by Lost Jarv
Jul 9th, 2008
03:56:10 AM
If ever there is proof positive that the infected labia piercing doesn't understand what we are talking about it is this sentence:

"If you guys take the attack on Pearl Harbor, the real attack, as basis for an exciting action scene, then you just completly lost all sense of perspective. That should not be fun, it should be horrible!!"

This is so far off the mark, while still being completely correct, that it is amazing. What we are talking about is the visceral thrill of cinema. What memories is referring to is some deeper meaning/ message that Cinema should have.

And this is one of the (many) reasons why he will never understand this.

Hey Xi
by Lost Jarv
Jul 9th, 2008
03:56:45 AM
How's tricks?
Lost Jarv
by Xiphos_2
Jul 9th, 2008
04:02:05 AM
Have you seen the craptastic movie I mentioned above, the Spanish opus dedicated to shit, The Three Fantastic Supermen?
Lost Jarv
by Xiphos_2
Jul 9th, 2008
04:04:29 AM
I'm good my man. Thes next few post will be my last for a few weeks. We're going on an extended camping trip tomorrow.
Yes, I actually saw it in spain
by Lost Jarv
Jul 9th, 2008
04:13:49 AM
It's hysterical,

Have fun camping. Well as much fun as you can actually have camping. And that's without war.

Lost Jarv
by Xiphos_2
Jul 9th, 2008
04:20:25 AM
I saw it in Mexico in the orginal Spanish and it was beyond hysterical, it might actually be the best worst movie ever made and that's saying alot!

Of course I was like 7 seven then and thought it was the greatest thing ever.

Strike one of those sevens in the post above
by Xiphos_2
Jul 9th, 2008
04:22:21 AM
I swear I'm getting dumber by the day.
WOLVERIEEEEEEEEENS!!!!!!!!
by Xiphos_2
Jul 9th, 2008
05:03:29 AM
That's for you Mr Jarv I saw you mentioned it above. Red Dawn was perhaps the shlockiest of 80's movies but it did have Powers Boothe, Patrick Swazye and C. Thomas Howell trying his best to be a tough guy plus Marty McFlys mom.
not to mention Charlie Sheen
by Lost Jarv
Jul 9th, 2008
05:04:53 AM
I'd forgotten he was in it.
Tombodet
by Xiphos_2
Jul 9th, 2008
05:07:31 AM
I got some lions on my side so its all good. I apprecite the thoughts though, very much.
Charlie Sheen was in Red Dawn?
by Xiphos_2
Jul 9th, 2008
05:16:02 AM
I don't even remember that but the last time I watched I was in the hospital and under the influence of IV pain killers and antbiotics so Jesus christ himself could have been in it and I wouldn't have known it.
Zardoz
by the power of GREYSKULL
Jul 9th, 2008
06:04:14 AM
DAMMIT!
by the power of GREYSKULL
Jul 9th, 2008
06:06:32 AM
don't you hate when you hit Enter instead of Tab?

anyway, I was gonna mention Charlie Sheen is Patrick Swayze's kid brother...

That's all I got

Charlie was Patrick's bro
by just pillow talk
Jul 9th, 2008
06:32:55 AM
died at the end sitting on the bench...with Patrick saying something like "we're gonna go home now".
watched This is England last night Jarv...
by just pillow talk
Jul 9th, 2008
06:35:10 AM
It was okay, but it seemed to be missing something for me, and I'm not sure I can put my finger on it. Perhaps it shouldn't have been from an eleven year old's perspective? Not that the kid wasn't okay, but I don't know...
And I suppose I should have just read Greyskull's post
by just pillow talk
Jul 9th, 2008
06:36:38 AM
above, since he quite obviously answered the Charlie question.

Fuck me, I believe I need some coffee now.

and clearly this thread should not lose out
by just pillow talk
Jul 9th, 2008
06:37:21 AM
to Tarantino bullshit thread.
and Xi...good luck in Cuba!
by just pillow talk
Jul 9th, 2008
06:37:45 AM
I think I won't get to 10,000 BC until tomorrow night
by just pillow talk
Jul 9th, 2008
06:38:56 AM
Even though that movie has been throughly slammed for being bland, I can't help but be a little giddy at the prospect of seeing dumbness on screen.
wasn't Jennifer Grey in Red Dawn as well?
by just pillow talk
Jul 9th, 2008
06:40:15 AM
I believe she got shot up by the helicopter when they were riding their horses.
JPT VIVA LA REVOLUCION!
by Xiphos_2
Jul 9th, 2008
06:49:07 AM
Hey could you keep an extra eye on the DBacks for me and clue me in if they make a trade for a bat?
most certainly...
by just pillow talk
Jul 9th, 2008
06:54:57 AM
Me thinks they need two more bats....

But never fear, they'll back into the playoffs anyways cause their division is oh-so-bad.

The playoffs will be another story.

Fair enough pillows
by Lost Jarv
Jul 9th, 2008
07:00:23 AM
I really clearly remember the mid-eighties and the rise of the NF. So maybe it means more to me. The kid will only have been a few years older than me.

I thought bits of it were absolutely gripping, and the tension at the end when the NF leader turned on milky was palpable.

Still, it would be dull if we all had the same opinions.

We're pulling away from the IB thread
by Lost Jarv
Jul 9th, 2008
07:03:47 AM
is there any need to discuss (again) tarantino's pros and cons. I can't think of anything I'd rather do less,
You guys should watch
by Series7
Jul 9th, 2008
07:12:28 AM
Sex and Death 101, its actually very funny. Was gonna watch Control last night but feel asleep, first night not watching a movie in a while.
I think I would have liked him to go back
by just pillow talk
Jul 9th, 2008
07:28:54 AM
to the Pakistani store owner and have him apologize. Then have him toss the flag into the water...I think it would have completed his arc a bit more.
Ok I haven't seen Red Dawn
by Series7
Jul 9th, 2008
07:41:39 AM
And I hate how everyone likes to but the balls of that movie in their mouth and give them a good swirl before they are done talking about it. If they would put it on TCM instead of AMC ALL THE FUCKING TIME i'd watch it. Before Mad Men and Breaking Bad there was no reason for AMC to be alive. TCM is much better and Mad Men and Breaking Bad would be able to get away with a lot more if they were on that channel. I know I have dumb roomates because when ever I am not in control of the remote TBS or AMC is on.
put not but*
by Series7
Jul 9th, 2008
07:42:39 AM
Series7
by just pillow talk
Jul 9th, 2008
07:54:13 AM
You must correct that. Now.

Netflix. Blockbuster. Something.

You can then shout WOLVERIIIIINE! as you attack your roommates and take away the remote from them.

Let the B-movie jamboree resume..
by Jonah Echo
Jul 9th, 2008
07:56:55 AM
But first, Control was a great movie. Mentioning it though reminds me of Kontroll, from a few years ago. The same director later made Vacancy(which I liked). Anyone here see it?

And B-movie jumpstart:

Return of Swamp Thing.

Killdozer

Syngenor

Chopping Mall a.k.a. Killbots

Trog

Dinosaurus

Of Unknown Origin

Xi
by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar
Jul 9th, 2008
07:59:38 AM
If it not too late, Fred wish you best over there or in Cuba or whereever you may be!

Only seen Return of Swamp Thing
by Lost Jarv
Jul 9th, 2008
08:05:25 AM
Killdozer , and Dinosaurus from that list.

Fucking lovefilm removed humanoids from the deep and swapped it for V for Vendetta, which wasn't even on the FUCKING LIST, honestly what's the point of the fucking list? they just keep sending us things they think we'll like and usually getting it wrong. Case in point: Ordinary People. How could they think the same people that watched the entire Lep series, Twin Peaks, Suspira, Rocky, and many other goodies would want to watch that?

Anyway, where was I...

Oh yes, so no humanoid goodness for poor old Jarv this weekend. Especially seeing as I had a nostalgia attack the other day and elevated The Crow into the other slot.

and, while I'm on this subject
by Lost Jarv
Jul 9th, 2008
08:06:39 AM
Why do the CUNTS still not have Army of Darkness yet?

It's pissing me off no end. Especially because they're pretending Beastmaster doesn't exist.

Vacancy
by Lost Jarv
Jul 9th, 2008
08:08:06 AM
sucked. Sorry man.

Complete crap that wanted to be torture porn but didn't have the balls.

What is distressing about Vacancy is that in the DVD extras there are all the murder tapes that you can watch. If you're a degenerate fuck, that is.

Pillows:
by Lost Jarv
Jul 9th, 2008
08:10:20 AM
I don't think his arc needed completing, as I thought it was pretty obvious that he was a broken kid. I like that ending of him looking at the ocean. I thought it was terribly sad.

And the NF meeting scared the bejesus out of me. Those fuckers are like cockroaches, they never go away.

You got V for Vendetta instead of Humanoids..
by Jonah Echo
Jul 9th, 2008
08:10:25 AM
Chalk me up as one who just plain didn't like V the movie, while I did enjoy Moore's GN. It was alright, but to me felt too much of the same sensibility that drowned the Matrix sequels.

I don't understand the geek love for it, frankly.

Best scene of Return of Swamp Thing, was Heather Locklear asking Swampie "Are you a plant?"

Speaking of Swamp Thing, a D.C. property, what about most obscure or silliest adaptations of comics?

At the fore you have Howard the Duck, but what about..

Dr. Strange

Captain America

The Corman Fantastic Four

This is England
by Jonah Echo
Jul 9th, 2008
08:12:58 AM
I thought it was a great movie, and agree that the ending is haunting.

The "torture porn" genre holds no interest to me. I guess that's why I liked much of Vacancy, it concentrated on the situation and not the torture. I'd have zero interest in watching those tapes. I didnt think it was a great movie, but it did have a strong sense of atmosphere and more than a little tension, but by the end most of that was ebbed away. It's like a 2 and a half star flick in my book.

This is the last post for me boys
by Xiphos_2
Jul 9th, 2008
08:18:19 AM
For a few weeks so take care everbody and thanks for the well wishes.

Series7, about Red Dawn, just remember this, its not a good movie but its supurbly entertaining because of things like the following exchange:

MartyMcFlyMoM: Who's on our side?

Powers Boothe: "Five Hundred million screaming Chinese."

MartyMcFlysMoM:'I thought there was a Billion Chinese?"

PB: "There...was"

"Are you a plant"
by Lost Jarv
Jul 9th, 2008
08:18:37 AM
I saw that recently and nearly cried with laughter.

Brilliant

and Howard the Duck Rules. Frankly.
by Lost Jarv
Jul 9th, 2008
08:19:38 AM
I'd nominate Tank Girl as silliest comic adaptation,
Good luck Xiphos..
by Jonah Echo
Jul 9th, 2008
08:20:05 AM
and God Bless. Take care of yourself..Looking forward to seeing you back here in a few weeks.
Tank Girl was silly..
by Jonah Echo
Jul 9th, 2008
08:21:37 AM
that's a good mention.

What about faux comic book movies. Anyone here see Full Moon's "Dr. Modred"

Jonah Echo
by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar
Jul 9th, 2008
08:21:39 AM
Fred really, really liked Captain America movie. They stayed true to source. Fred must buy it some day. The Corman FF was cheap, but it entertained, and it had a better Doctor Doom than the big budget movie.

Was the Doctor Strange a TV movie along with Nick Fury?

Fred loved Howard the Duck too
by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar
Jul 9th, 2008
08:22:56 AM
Take care Xiphos.
Fred..
by Jonah Echo
Jul 9th, 2008
08:25:01 AM
I have a soft spot for the Corman FF. It's just fun and funny, which is good for a bad movie. The other 2 FFs didnt have the fun or funny going for them.

The Dr. Strange Im familiar with was a 1970's movie. He fought Morgan La Fey. Im not sure if it was tv or theatrical. It was super-cheesy.

I rather fancied Lori Petty
by Lost Jarv
Jul 9th, 2008
08:32:31 AM
and how can you not like somthing with humanoid kangaroos that drink Spunk lager?

Didn't the original artist/ writer of Tank girl go on to do Gorillaz?

Modern FF was crap.
by Lost Jarv
Jul 9th, 2008
08:33:38 AM
Complete rubbish. And I've been avoiding the Silver Surfer effort the way fat people dodge salad.
V for V
by Series7
Jul 9th, 2008
08:40:21 AM
I did not care for it. I thought it was boring for the most part. And the whole training sequence, just to make sure he could trust her i thought was really dumb.

As for Red Dawn I've been meaning to watch it for a long time, I think my roomate has it.

I nominate Judge Dredd for silliest comic adaptation. Because for the most part it has a lot going for it. Also its by far the best Rob Schnider role ever (did you know he's got a movie HE directed coming out?), and I think the first part of the movie is great. It was obvious that Danny was aiming for Russell Mulcahy like over the topness, but didn't go all the way with it for the end. Sly even admits to being let down with the final product, and blames the director. I think its funny that the Judge Dredd photo is Sly's photo for IMDB. I really got into the 2000AD comics while I lived in England, getting them from my local newsagents and all and I thought a lot of the movie fit in well with the kind of anything goes universe. And Sly nailed the character. Had Verhoven directed it, it probably would've been a classic.

Speaking of Fan 4
by Series7
Jul 9th, 2008
09:00:30 AM
I've always thought of them as the cheesiest of all the big comic book characters of marvel, second dumbest thing next two JLA. I just never understood how a group of superheroes would ever have problems fighting one bad guy. At least in the X-Men world anyone could be a mutant. Like I don't know how you make a story longer then bad guys run a muck, JLA or Fan 4 stops them within the hour. Done. Especially since like the only issues with Fan 4 is the romance between Mr and Mrs and the Thing dealing with not being human. The Thing and Human Torch where both very good in both movies. They should go do some buddy movie, everything else about both of those movies were shit. Some of the special effects though where very good, also the use of Counting Bodies Like Sheep by a Perfect Circle in the very first teaser trailer to Fan 4 was an awesome idea that song is amazing. But the movies just fall apart some how, I blame Tim Story, and using Dr. Troy as Doom, McMahon could be a very good bad guy he just was not right for that part.
Dredd
by Lost Jarv
Jul 9th, 2008
09:02:08 AM
see, I've so many problems with that film. I know 200AD really, really well and frankly, that was not Dredd.

What they should have done is a 3 part Judge Cal story.

Dredd was framed and exiled in that one, before Cal went completely batshit crazy (making a fish high Judge) and ordered the execution of the entire city, Dredd saved day.

Or they should have just done either Rico or Angel Gang by themselves.

Fuck, I'm a nerd. I hope the wife doesn't find out about this.

Fred always confuse Demolition man with Judge Dredd
by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar
Jul 9th, 2008
09:10:26 AM
Fred wonder why?
Maybe one day
by Series7
Jul 9th, 2008
09:12:46 AM
There will be a documentary put out by Marvel about the history of there films. Because I would really like to see just how certain people get a hold of certain projects. I always find it frustrating how closed door and hush hush hollywood always is. And why very few people ever speak out about it. I mean there are satires and attempts, but what I don't understand is why if something sucks why as a human being you wouldn't speak up about it. Especially some rich movie star, I know its all about keeping your image and stuff and you don't want studios to think you are a liability. But I would like to see some tell all book from Stan Lee or some one like one of the Weinstein brothers talking about they did it for money or what. Why don't more actors pull an L L and flat out admit a movie sucks. I know its all surronded by confidentiality agreements, but at the end of the day how could you take those seriously. It too bad that whenever anyone speaks bad of hollywood they usually just come of as jaded in someway or as a nut job.
Never liked Fantastic 4
by Lost Jarv
Jul 9th, 2008
09:19:57 AM
It's just a bit, well, lame.

And (I can't believe I'm about to say this) Sly had too much emotion for Dredd. Dredd is great satire (as is much of 2000AD), but the point is that he, and the rest of the judges, are totally unfeeling.

Or they could have done Dredd's trip across Scorched Earth to deliver the vaccine to Mega City 2, or Judge Death, which is crying out for the B movie treatment- have you ever seen the origin of Judge Death? It's hysterical- when he gets appointed to court for 1 day and sentences everyone to death:

Overseeing Judge: "You sentenced everyone to death! Why?"

"They would have re-offended"

"But that couple only came in for a divorce"

Fred knows this is B movie TB now, but Fred saw Hellboy II
by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar
Jul 9th, 2008
09:20:58 AM
Last night at sneak preview. Fred was underwhelmed. It not as good as first movie. It had more 'splosions and more monster fights and more Pan Labrynth type creatures, but it jumped the troll. They have a scene that is right out of Diagins Alley in it, that just made Fred laugh (derisively). It have huge plotholes too, and the humor that they try just falls flat - most of time. Fred disappointed. First movie have heart, this movie have more money, but lost it's way. Someine needs to tell GDT that he does not need to use the same look in every movie - his Pan's Labrynth look that is.
The Kid Stays In The Picture
by Lost Jarv
Jul 9th, 2008
09:21:15 AM
was full of stories like that. Evans came across as a prick, to be honest, but it was still enjoyable.
Woah, first bad review.
by Lost Jarv
Jul 9th, 2008
09:22:37 AM
And I don't think Fred is plant for a rival studios. Plants don't have balls. Fred does. They're in a jar.

I'm stealing "jumped the troll" By the way.

Danny,
by Lost Jarv
Jul 9th, 2008
09:23:46 AM
I know what is good about Dredd. Just that movie was NOT Judge Dredd. Fuck I'm lame. I still like some of it, but it has big problems for me. (Says he backpeddaling like a son of a bitch)
Lost Jarv
by Series7
Jul 9th, 2008
09:24:15 AM
Yeah I don't know 2000ad a great deal, I just know that it had and anything goes style to it. Do they still make it?
Dermolition Man has Snipes
by Lost Jarv
Jul 9th, 2008
09:24:24 AM
You can never have too much Snipes.
Series
by Lost Jarv
Jul 9th, 2008
09:25:13 AM
Don't know to be honest. I grew out of comics when I discovered beer, cigs and women. I'm going to go and check.

I hope so.

Hey Fred: You're not Ricky Henderson.
by HoboCode
Jul 9th, 2008
09:25:22 AM
So quit trying to be. It's lame and annoying.
HoboCode
by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar
Jul 9th, 2008
09:29:10 AM
Fred thank you for advice.
Kid stays in the picture
by Series7
Jul 9th, 2008
09:31:22 AM
Yeah I've seen the movie, I guess I need to read the book though. I love both Demolition Man and Dredd, totally fergot that Schnider was in Demolition man as well... hahaha man Sly and him almost became like a comic action duo. I thought Sly played Dredd just right, because he always was the super serious all the time character. See Dredd and Demolition man are perfect examples of why I don't like action movies as much these days. Actors take themselves way too serious that an action movies no a days always have to be real. Thats why I liked the Condemded so much, everyone was going all out, just too much Matt Damon can't fight so lets quick cut edit everything style of editing.
Lost Jarv
by Series7
Jul 9th, 2008
09:32:53 AM
Yeah now that I've gotten over the wonders of beer/cigs/women I too have gotten back into comics. And to be honest they make a lot more sense then they did as a kid.
Lost Jarv
by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar
Jul 9th, 2008
09:33:16 AM
Jumoped the Troll came to Fred during the "Diagons Alley" tyoe scene. Fred thought it was appropriate
Scorched Earth?
by Lost Jarv
Jul 9th, 2008
09:34:29 AM
Fuck me. Cursed Earth. Whoops.

Freudian slip of the keyboard then.

and I'm pleased to say
by Lost Jarv
Jul 9th, 2008
09:36:07 AM
2000AD does still exist.

It isn't weekly anymore though and some American dick (no offence) wants to do a Judge Death spin off. The tool thinks it could be like The Killing Joke- thereby totally missing the point.

Fred you thought the first Hellboy
by Series7
Jul 9th, 2008
09:37:08 AM
Had heart? I agree with you about the comedy, for some reason its just just hitting with me. Like I feel like Hellboy should be a lot more vulgar instead of, I'm ugly WOO HOO! Plus I just hate HATE Selma Blair, shes always comes off as this vapid hole of where a person should be. She's in this new terrible looking remake of a british show fox has been pimping hardcore recently and every time she's on I want to punch the TV, but it seems like she's playing the perfect part. Also worsening the fact is that Molly Shannon is in it, the girl that stupid people think is funny (like Kristen Wiig).
I made the mistake of combining women and Blow
by Lost Jarv
Jul 9th, 2008
09:38:20 AM
so even if I wanted to read comics again I can't afford to.

I get what's good about Judge Dredd, Danny, it just represents one fuck of a missed chance. And that's what bugs me.

Mind you, the same is true for V for Vendetta, LXG, From Hell and pretty much anything that's had the words "Based on ....... by Alan Moore" attached.

What show is that?
by Lost Jarv
Jul 9th, 2008
09:39:13 AM
And I'm with you on the Blair hate.
Cursed Earth pizza?
by Series7
Jul 9th, 2008
09:43:27 AM
Worst week of my life I thinks the name
by Series7
Jul 9th, 2008
09:45:35 AM
Favorite Jude Dredd quote:

ABC warrior: Status?

Rico: Bodyguard.

ABC warrior: Commander?

Rico: Rico.

ABC warrior: Mission?

Rico: We're going to war.

ABC warrior: [eagerly] Warrr...

Hahaha
by Series7
Jul 9th, 2008
09:48:47 AM
Just looked up IMDB for that quote and there was a link to some 04 interview with Tom Cruise in which he talked about being Ironman and it said that he would be one of the biggest actors to put on tights and a mask. Empire magazine, you are stupid. You know they were just like, umm whats Ironman? A comic book. Ohh ok they he'll have tight a mask or some cape. Yeah sure. I guess some people really didn't know who Ironman was.
OHHH YEAH
by Series7
Jul 9th, 2008
09:50:54 AM
Another awesome fact about Judge Dredd, the theme song was done by The Cure!!!! I really like the song, you can only get it on there like entire collection cd set... or download like everyone else. Its called, Dredd Song. I guess Manic Street Preachers were suppose to do the song, that would've been just as cool as well.
DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar
Jul 9th, 2008
09:54:14 AM
That is exact point - the father/son relationship. Fred not spoil movie for you, but lets say, they try to recreate it a bit, it not bad, but because of way they did it, it really have no impact on rest of movie. This movie went with 'bigger is better' Which is always the wrong thing to do. For example the HQ has so many creatures being dragged through hallways - that it reminded me of MIB. The whole covert type status is blown and the feeling that the first movie gave of a close knit organization fighting in the shadows is torn asunder.
Judge Dredd sucked ass
by Braffed
Jul 9th, 2008
09:56:15 AM
Rob Schnieder...need i say more
Naw
by Series7
Jul 9th, 2008
09:57:20 AM
Have you heard Tears for Fears new stuff? Its all kind of folky (not the right word, but the best I can think of right now) sounding. Duran Duran should do it, now there new stuff still fits in with their old collection. Like Tears last cd came off as kind of a soft rock cd, insturments and stuff no keyboard and sythisizers.
Series7
by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar
Jul 9th, 2008
09:59:01 AM
Yes, first movie have much heart and feel like it was one big extended family with black sheep, or red sheep. Second movie made it out to be a bureaucratic, supernatural MIB.
Yeah the new
by Series7
Jul 9th, 2008
10:03:07 AM
Tears stuff doesn't sound like the old stuff at all. The best thing I can think of to relate it to is The Polyphonic Spree, but music wise, and only one vocal. Like the cd had one pretty good song and the rest was forgettable, while the whole new Duran Duran cd is great all the way through.
Worst Week of My Life?
by Lost Jarv
Jul 9th, 2008
10:03:34 AM
Someone wanted to remake that unfunny piece of shit.

The mind boggles.

Has anyone read the Hellboy comics?
by Series7
Jul 9th, 2008
10:04:21 AM
Who's seen both movies? I mean I guess thats the big thing in how well the comic is portrayed on the big screen.
Series7
by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar
Jul 9th, 2008
10:09:38 AM
They give out freebie comic last night. Fred underwhelmed again.
Keeping this the top TB
by Hawaiian Organ Donor
Jul 9th, 2008
10:11:01 AM
With nothing but b-movie talk is amazing. I hope everyone is doing well this not-so-fine day.

Judge Dredd got some things right, but if I remember (haven't seen it in 10 years) it got more wrong.

Assante and Von Sydow were great and Diane Lane looked hot as usual. It really needed to be a hard R-rated movie though.

Yeah that band
by Series7
Jul 9th, 2008
10:13:41 AM
Always sort of liked polyphonic spree.
by Lost Jarv
Jul 9th, 2008
10:15:51 AM
Kind of like Hawkwind. Not so much a band as a collective of loonies.

Cheers H-O-D, that's what I was getting at.

GOD DAMNIT!!!
by Series7
Jul 9th, 2008
10:16:06 AM
SOME ONE KEEPS FUCKING FAXING ME SOMETHING TO MY PHONE! My phone and fax number only have 1 number difference. But come on after 20 failed fax attempts you think you would stop! Its like a joke too, because the beep of the fax doesn't happen right away, but just enough time for me to get my greeting out to hear, BEEP! Mother fucker.
Duran Duran suck
by Lost Jarv
Jul 9th, 2008
10:17:09 AM
badly. They're only interesting in the same way that fossils are interesting. And I grew up in the 80's.

The 80's were great for some things, but music is NOT one of them.

And don't pretend designer misery wank The Smiths are good.

Judge Dredd
by Series7
Jul 9th, 2008
10:17:50 AM
not answering my phone. was and R. If you check out IMDB its got some interesting trivia stuff about the movie. Turns out Manic Street Preachers released the song they made for Dredd.
I think I know why,
by Lost Jarv
Jul 9th, 2008
10:23:03 AM
by the time I was musically aware Duran Duran were already having the piss ripped out of them.

and don't forget the 80's is the decade that bought us the utter misery of Stock, Aitkin, Waterman and teh (s)hit factory. Rick Astley? please.

Yes, but Danny
by Lost Jarv
Jul 9th, 2008
10:29:54 AM
and this is important- You're not English, so therefore were not exposed to the fucking misery that we were. Seriously, look at some of the absolute fucking dreck that topped the British charts throughout the decade.

Kylie, Jive Bunny, Shakespeare's Sister, Men at Work, Jason FUCKING Donovan (who?you may well ask), Bros, etc

I could go on with this, but the 80's was not a happy time for British music.

When have the English
by Series7
Jul 9th, 2008
10:31:16 AM
Ever had a decade where they weren't making the most influential music? Maybe the early 90's but that wasn't the whole decade.
fucking work driving me insane
by just pillow talk
Jul 9th, 2008
10:31:35 AM
So now...Judge Dredd is entertaining, even with the annoying little pussy ass bitch Rob Scheneider.

It did, however, how the sexy Diane Lane in it. She could arrest me anytime.

Yeah British radio
by Series7
Jul 9th, 2008
10:33:53 AM
Is fucking terrible about beating you over the head with whats the most popular song of the moment. I remember when Wonderwall came out, and the radio was like, and for the fifth time this hour, WONDERWALL!
Whatever
by Series7
Jul 9th, 2008
10:34:48 AM
Rob Scheneider was torable in Judge Dredd, even funny.
Oh yeah
by Series7
Jul 9th, 2008
10:37:33 AM
I've meet Rob Scheneider. He's about 3-3 and 1/2 foot tall. Really, I meet him my senior year of high school and I towered over him. He was a really nice guy, granted it was an USO tour where they have to be nice. Also met Peter MacNicol who's as weird and awkward as he comes of in TV.
In person, Liam is a complete shithead
by Lost Jarv
Jul 9th, 2008
11:05:34 AM
I've met him because of where I live and a more disagreeable fucking chav you could not wish to meet. Cunt.
Britpop was ace
by Lost Jarv
Jul 9th, 2008
11:06:46 AM
a wonderful, wonderful time. I heard more great music, drank more crappy lager from a plastic cup, and shagged more dubious women then than ever again in my life.
Cos bay-beeeeeee
by Lost Jarv
Jul 9th, 2008
11:09:07 AM
You're gonna be the one that saves me,

cos after aaa-llllll,

You're my WONDERWAA-LLLLL

"Liam, What the fuck is a "Wonderwall" exactly?"

The British contribution to music is second to none
by Hawaiian Organ Donor
Jul 9th, 2008
11:11:33 AM
The problem is, many of the modern bands from the UK that I love (Manic Street Preachers, Feeder, The Feeling, Haven, Travis, A, Stereophonics, Delays, Scouting For Girls, Supergrass, The Thrills) are probably reviled by audiophiles across the pond. My iPod is mostly full of Britpop and I would pay good money to discover UK bands I'm missing out on.
I met...
by DocPazuzu
Jul 9th, 2008
11:12:13 AM
...Sarah Louise Young and Monique Covet. Not at the same time either.
I can't stand...
by DocPazuzu
Jul 9th, 2008
11:15:33 AM
...Selma Blair either. Couldn't act to save her life. Trés overrated. Her chain-smoking habit isn't exactly endearing either.
I've never met anyone of any interest. Ever.
by Hawaiian Organ Donor
Jul 9th, 2008
11:17:24 AM
No musicians, no players in Hollywood, no athletes, no political giants. Nobody.

I've seen some of the greats on the field or stage, but never met them. I've never even walked by "greatness."

DocP
by Hawaiian Organ Donor
Jul 9th, 2008
11:20:28 AM
I'll be more than happy to hook up with Selma Blair after a night of her chain smoking her cigs and me chain smoking my cigars.

We'll come together in disgusting, smokey, gag inducing bliss.

All this talk of hard livin'
by Hawaiian Organ Donor
Jul 9th, 2008
11:23:56 AM
Has me craving a Newcastle, a Macanudo and some live British music.

Speaking of British music, one of the best performances I ever saw was a band called Moke. Too bad the Brits and Yanks had no use for them and forced them to disband.

Danny
by Hawaiian Organ Donor
Jul 9th, 2008
11:30:56 AM
After a brilliant debut album they released a complete stinker. And then another. I stopped following them after that but I still listen to their first album frequently.
Fred met Patrick Stewart, Ben Stein and Steve Young
by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar
Jul 9th, 2008
11:35:14 AM
Patrick Stewart at Paramount lot. Ben Stein at L.A. car museum near Batmobile. Steve Young (American football player - retired) at a party.
Fred Flirts with Celebrity
by Hawaiian Organ Donor
Jul 9th, 2008
11:45:21 AM
Patrick Stweart should live to 150, Ben Stein needs to stab himself repeatedly int he neck with a pencil until he either dies of lead poisoning or blood loss and Steve Young is one of the greatest QBs ever and helped the 49ers win the Super Bowl when they were still my team.
Fred met Jerry Rice too
by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar
Jul 9th, 2008
11:45:44 AM
same party
Hawaiian Organ Donor
by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar
Jul 9th, 2008
11:49:39 AM
Fred always loved Steve Young. Steve had just been inducted into hall of fame - unbeknownst to Fred, and was being congratulated. Steve was very hungry, and made his way to buffet, only to be pounced on by Fred while Steve attempted to stuff his face (Steves face not Freds) with a shrimp. Fred extended Freds hand, and Steve shook it while still eating. Fred Met Jerry Rice later that night, Jerry surprised Fred with how opne and nice he was. Not that Steve was not nice, but Steve was hungry and Fred was getting in his way of free eats.
Dirk Bennedict (Face from A Team)
by Braffed
Jul 9th, 2008
11:51:05 AM
Use to baby sit me. too bad it wasn't Mr. T, that would have been sweet!
Braffed
by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar
Jul 9th, 2008
11:52:46 AM
Was he in-between jobs?
wierdest meeting..
by Jonah Echo
Jul 9th, 2008
11:53:13 AM
for a brief time back in 95 I worked at a subway while in college. Alice Cooper dropped in. Sat and chatted with us over a turkey on wheat. The least diplomatic of our fellow employees asks him in the middle of the turkey, if he ever really bit the heads off birds. He laughed and said something along the lines of "birds are tasty." In actuality, he was a very nice, jovial guy and I'm amazed that he even bothered to hang about and talk. He was talking bout helping paint his daughter's house, etc. Was like running into a neighbor. He had little interest in being related to as a former rockstar. Which was nice. He seemed like a great guy.
And speaking of Alice has ingited the B-vault again..
by Jonah Echo
Jul 9th, 2008
11:56:38 AM
Anyone here see Monster Dog? One of the schlockiest things starring a well known name I've seen. It was made during Cooper's popularity too, not recently. I wish I had seen it before I met him. Would have asked him bout it for sure. It was a werewolf movie, and while incredibly cheesy, I actually liked it. Was creepy and fun.

I still recall the lyrics of the opening song: "Sometimes I feel like Sherlock Holmes...sometimes I feel like Billy the Kid..I need a face...because mine's been erased." Don't know what the hell it meant, but then Cooper's stuff was like that.

Fred saw Mr. T eating in Dallas - but too scared to talk
by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar
Jul 9th, 2008
11:58:06 AM
Fred was just a wee Fred at the time. Fred's mom worked in building that had underground concourse with resturants. Mr. T was eating ---alone. Fred kept walking.
I can dig on Alice Cooper
by Hawaiian Organ Donor
Jul 9th, 2008
12:02:25 PM
Far better than his fellow 70s rock counterpart, Ted Nugent.

If Starbuck was babysitting me as a kid (with Galactica in it's prime) I would've gone bat spit crazy.

Come to think of it, the closest I ever came to celebrity was freakin' Walter Mondale. Asked for his autograph in the National Museum in Mexico City when he was running for prez. And I brushed past Charles Barkley in a mall in Boston, but since the 76ers were in town to play my beloved Celtics, I didn't even want to look at the guy.

briefly met William Hurt. He was in town filming Tuck Everlastin
by Jonah Echo
Jul 9th, 2008
12:06:04 PM
So he looked a little homeless. Nother seemingly nice guy. Appeared to be very, very laidback.
If we can keep this up, we'll hit 1000 posts
by Hawaiian Organ Donor
Jul 9th, 2008
12:06:47 PM
Not bad for a Roland Emmerich TB where we stopped talking about Emmerich 400 posts back.
Whose got a new B-topic for discussion?
by Jonah Echo
Jul 9th, 2008
12:08:12 PM
Alice's finest screen hour
by Lost Jarv
Jul 9th, 2008
12:10:10 PM
Not Wayne's world- Prince of Darkness.
Yes I have
by Lost Jarv
Jul 9th, 2008
12:10:46 PM
not that exciting, frankly.
Jonah Echo
by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar
Jul 9th, 2008
12:10:50 PM
Fred repost question from last night: Fred have question for Jonah Echo, Lost Jarv DocPazuzu et al. How do movies like Trail of Screaming Forehead, or Her Morbid Desires get made, where are thet shown. Fred lives in fairly big city and Fred never heard of these types of movies. Are they just DTV or is there some underground movue market. Fred remember Sybil Danning being big in B movies, before DTV and Fred never saw one of her movies until cable. Fred would like to know if Fred is missing more than just Freds balls.
with the IG talkback closing in, that might be too obscure..
by Jonah Echo
Jul 9th, 2008
12:10:56 PM
I usually just experience a creepy feeling when Harry puts one of those on the list, not actual recognition.

The sad thing about celebrity is
by Hawaiian Organ Donor
Jul 9th, 2008
12:11:40 PM
I lived in Halifax for years and years and around the mid-90s, celebs started dropping in all the time. Stallone was in town with his boat docked in the harbor for a week, Kelsey Grammer was there shooting that Writer's Block movie, Paula Abdul, Harrison Ford, William Fichtner and Sean Connery were many of the celebs seen on the street during a layover, and yet, I didn't see any of them.
It was before the A Team...
by Braffed
Jul 9th, 2008
12:13:08 PM
I don't even remeber, but he was friends/banging my mom and would watch me once in a while. I thought she was bullshitting until she dug up old pictres. It's the most random thing.... I also bought Jean Claude Van Damn a beer in New Orleans once. What a Chode
I saw Charles S. Dutton
by Series7
Jul 9th, 2008
12:15:24 PM
At the LAX on my way to Hawaii, he saw we looking at him and it looked like he either A)Was preparing to deal with another Roc fanatic, or B) Stab me. So I pussied out and didn't say anything.

Oh yeah Bill Murray checked out in the counter next to me at Whole Foods like 2 months ago...pussied out again, he was the worst dressed person in the store.

oh yeah...
by Braffed
Jul 9th, 2008
12:15:56 PM
and the lead singer from Depeche Mode told me to go fuck myself..
HOD
by Lost Jarv
Jul 9th, 2008
12:16:04 PM
of that list- Most of them I quite like. Except Travis who I hate with a passion and wish they would die.

Try the Arctic Monkeys, they fit right on that list.

Coldplay are probably the most despised act at the moment. Who the fuck buys Coldplay CD's? and can they stop it. Cynical aimed at American college kids GARBAGE. Totally music without identity.

Being a Camden boy I see an awful lot of music. Most of which is frankly dreadful. BUt occasionally you get some gems like when a metal band cover Prodigy.

There's so much Britpop that just didn't cross the atlantic, and if you're looking for that mid-90's vibe then you can easily draw up a great playlist of 1 hit wonders from the likes of Lush, Elastica, Sleeper, Menswear etc. And this is before I get into the absolute untouchable Trip-hop.

Goldfrapp, Massive Attack, Tricky, Morcheeba, Portishead,

Sigh, and now we get wank Pop Idol gibberish, lame R 'n B rip off crap and Amy Feckin' Crackhouse.

Fred...
by Jonah Echo
Jul 9th, 2008
12:16:31 PM
Lots of times these things are made very low, low budget. They are eiter indie attempts to make a movie and then sell it, or the results of a producer just trying to cash in. Often they are shown at local venues, quietly. But there are two outlets by which these things make money. DTV and Sci-Fi channel. There is a really great ep. of Dinner for Five with Bruce Campbell, Roger Corman, Rob Zombie, etc. that delves into this when Roger is talking.

Here is the first part link, and you can follow the other links from there.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=BQB aVM2e4fw&feature=related

Jarv...
by Braffed
Jul 9th, 2008
12:18:05 PM
Dont forget the Clash and Psychedelic Furs!
Dave Gahan told you to fuck yourself?
by Lost Jarv
Jul 9th, 2008
12:18:47 PM
How cool. If he was high. If not then how lame.

I recently got abused by Robert Plant. I was trying to help a lost American get a picture of himself with said legend. It didn't go well.

Hahahahah I actually saw a famous person at Planet Hollywood
by Series7
Jul 9th, 2008
12:19:03 PM
It was in England, Batman and Robin had just come out and we knew Arnold was in town along with some others. So we went to Planet Hollywood, and he had been there the night before. BUT John Cleese was having dinner there with his family.
The Clash were epic
by Lost Jarv
Jul 9th, 2008
12:19:54 PM
as were Joe Strummers strolling tuscalederos (I have no idea if that's right), but he's sadly dead now.
Jarv
by Hawaiian Organ Donor
Jul 9th, 2008
12:19:55 PM
If you're still around, can you please tell me why all my favorite UK bands like those mentioned above and ones I forgot like Wilt keep getting hosed? Thankfully Feeder and Gomez are still going strong but there are far too many untimely demises out your way.

Series, Charles S Dutton is awesome. He and the doctor were the only good things about Alien 3.

Roger Corman
by Jonah Echo
Jul 9th, 2008
12:20:11 PM
who has produced something close to 400 movies, was talking about how Dinocroc turned out to be a very nice success for them. If you are like me, you are thinking "Dino-Croc?" Really?

But, yes, it seems that's the case. The money they made from selling it to sci-fi or whatever, and going dtv far outweighed the paltry cost of it.

No idea, but I was baked!
by Braffed
Jul 9th, 2008
12:22:28 PM
It was at a nightclub in Germany around 92. He was in the club and my friends pointed him out. He was sitting in a VIP section and I stumbled up to him and said "your own...personal....jesus. " rolled his eyes and said go fuck yourself. Instead, I went home and tore out the tabe from my Black Celebration cassettee. I sure showed him. cocksucker...
If I asked my mom if she fucked the face...
by Braffed
Jul 9th, 2008
12:23:22 PM
she'd say, "which one"?
Goldfrapp, Massive Attack
by Series7
Jul 9th, 2008
12:23:29 PM
Have made it to America. The frapp is like in every commercial or promo. Attack is in voldka commercials and House and Danny The Unleashed Dog.
HOD
by Series7
Jul 9th, 2008
12:26:29 PM
Yeah I wish I had talked to him, me and him were just standing around waiting for a ticket desk to do shit for us. Supposidly my dad was slapped by Za Za Gabor. Now I know that he did see her in a bar, I think he and my mom just add in the slapping part because she was known for doing that.
Jonah Echo
by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar
Jul 9th, 2008
12:27:44 PM
Thank you.
Braffed
by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar
Jul 9th, 2008
12:31:25 PM
Fred is nonplussed at your answer concerning your mom.
Met Johnny Depp...but it was soooo long ago..
by Jonah Echo
Jul 9th, 2008
12:33:59 PM
He was at the local mall. Girls were getting his autograph. I didnt care. That's because it was 88 or 89 and that was his 21 Jump Street Era.
Leatherheads was shot here
by Hawaiian Organ Donor
Jul 9th, 2008
12:34:32 PM
At least the city scenes. They used our town hall and our oldest hotel. Clooney bought some lemonade from a kid and gave him $20 for it. Boy that was big news here last summer.

*sigh* I gotta get out of hicktown.

Danny
by Braffed
Jul 9th, 2008
12:34:41 PM
Military brat. I had no other options.
Must post faster
by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar
Jul 9th, 2008
12:34:59 PM
Tarrantino tied!
Perhaps a new topic?
by Jonah Echo
Jul 9th, 2008
12:36:13 PM
perhaps the long distinguished career...
by Jonah Echo
Jul 9th, 2008
12:37:20 PM
of Michael Ironside or Jack Palance?
Didn't German nightclubs get bombed in 90's
by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar
Jul 9th, 2008
12:37:21 PM
By Libya?
Fred watched V - the real V not too long ago
by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar
Jul 9th, 2008
12:39:04 PM
Michael Ironside was awesome. he saved that flick. Who was fat dude who was his side kick?
Who wasn't Libya bombing in the 90s
by Hawaiian Organ Donor
Jul 9th, 2008
12:39:30 PM
Khadaffi, good guy.
I know Goldfapp and Massive Attack made it
by Lost Jarv
Jul 9th, 2008
12:40:36 PM
but they're the exception rather than the rule. Tricky, for example will never make it.

Mrs. Jarv keeps sneeringly pointing out that it is "dinner party music" so I keep having to remind her that she likes Ben Folds.

Ironside is usually awesome..
by Jonah Echo
Jul 9th, 2008
12:41:21 PM
Highlander II was good times..

He was good in Starship Troopers.

His mutant twin Kurtwood Smith was in Robocop being awesome.

Ironside had a nice bit part in The Machinist.

And the b-movie crapsterpiece Watchers. Anyone catch that?

whats wrong with ben folds?
by Braffed
Jul 9th, 2008
12:42:57 PM
also, best part of Highlander 2
by Jonah Echo
Jul 9th, 2008
12:43:00 PM
was the way in which it seemed Ironside was trying to channel Jack Nicholson channeling The Joker.
Ben Folds is a god amonst men...
by Braffed
Jul 9th, 2008
12:44:49 PM
try and find a better song than "rocking the suburbs" Go ahead, I dare you...
Split Second
by Jonah Echo
Jul 9th, 2008
12:45:22 PM
Rutger Hauer was talked about yesterday. Forgot then, but what about Split Second? It was an early 90s sci-fi flick where some kind of mutant was ripping people apart in the water-logged streets of London. Anyone remember it? I always sort of liked it.
never met anyone famous
by just pillow talk
Jul 9th, 2008
12:46:45 PM
but walked by Faith Hill, a lot shorter than I would have thought, Tim McGraw (who was actually pretty cool since one of the guys I worked with went up to him with a hat and pen and he signed it, along with Faith), Elle Macpherson (who was wicked tall and pregnant when I saw her), and that dude from the Lou Diamond Phillips movie The First Power (the killer dude who held up a ceiling fan as a weapon if I remember correctly).
Split Second was the shit...
by Braffed
Jul 9th, 2008
12:47:08 PM
what a fucking great flick! The monster kinda looked like Venom if i remeber right. Rutger was great in that. He was the best in The Hitcher and the movie when he was a blind guy...what was the name of that?
When are
by Series7
Jul 9th, 2008
12:47:20 PM
We going to get the teaming up of Miguel Ferrer and Michael Ironside that I keep hearing about?
oh, and fuck off Tarantino!
by just pillow talk
Jul 9th, 2008
12:48:13 PM
Blind Fury braffed
by Jonah Echo
Jul 9th, 2008
12:48:27 PM
Robot Jox!!
by Jonah Echo
Jul 9th, 2008
12:48:51 PM
Thats the one...thanks
by Braffed
Jul 9th, 2008
12:49:12 PM
Never heard of it but...
by Series7
Jul 9th, 2008
12:49:17 PM
The First Power (the killer dude who held up a ceiling fan as a weapon if I remember correctly).... that sounds AWESOME!
Fuck off M-o-M
by Lost Jarv
Jul 9th, 2008
12:49:24 PM
quite what that post has to do with the converstation is a mystery.
Series7...you must see it
by just pillow talk
Jul 9th, 2008
12:50:42 PM
And Split Second and Blind Fury...classic.

And...Ladyhawke!

The Unholy
by Jonah Echo
Jul 9th, 2008
12:51:24 PM
remember that one? The priest, the stripper and the demonic dog thingee that disguised itself as a woman?
Yess..Ladyhawke....
by Braffed
Jul 9th, 2008
12:51:45 PM
Speaking of Robocop
by Series7
Jul 9th, 2008
12:52:03 PM
I put this up in the other TB about the new Robocop. If you haven't bought this yet, you need to.

http://tinyurl.com/6rbvbc

BTW Series...the fan never stops moving either
by just pillow talk
Jul 9th, 2008
12:52:46 PM
he's brought back from the dead or something like that, an unstoppable killer that's possessed.
did anyone see the Hitcher remake?
by Braffed
Jul 9th, 2008
12:52:53 PM
Waxwork and Waxwork 2
by Jonah Echo
Jul 9th, 2008
12:53:41 PM
I thought Waxwork was useless, but Waxwork 2 was pretty funny stuff. Bruce Campbell as the guy with the exposed ribcage with a crow pecking at it, nonchalantly throwing out Monty Pthonism "it's only a flesh wound."
Anyone remember
by Series7
Jul 9th, 2008
12:54:26 PM
Little Monsters with Deal/No Deal and Daddy Day Camp?
I love split second
by Lost Jarv
Jul 9th, 2008
12:54:28 PM
and I don't particularly mind Ben Folds. She's just got a thing for Americana that is completely lost on this side of the pond.

For example, as I know she lost most of her CDs, I went to replace her John Meyer collection. I was unsuprised to find them in the Bargain bin for a whopping £3 each. I went to pay, and made the mistake of saying to the spotty oik behind the counter "that was cheap". He responded with "It's because it's shit".

So then I proceeded to explain to the little fuck how I've spent most of my career working in the Industry and frankly have forgotten more about music than he'll ever know, and if it's good enough for Mrs. Jarv then he should learn that women like things like this and he'll never get laid if he keeps putting jesus and Mary Chain on when he gets back to his place.

Little Monsters
by Jonah Echo
Jul 9th, 2008
12:56:10 PM
was the movie, and it wasn't so good. How bout Circuitry Man?
HAHA
by Braffed
Jul 9th, 2008
12:56:12 PM
nice one, jarv
Don't worry, Lost Jarv.
by Mr. Nice Gaius
Jul 9th, 2008
12:57:02 PM
My Bloody Valentine have returned to destroy everyone's ears with loud and swirly goodness.
The record stores here..
by Braffed
Jul 9th, 2008
12:57:27 PM
Dont sell anything but collectable action figures and MAD Magazine...not that there is anything wrong with MAD (even though I haven't read it in 20 years)
Wasnt the Split second villain The Devil?
by Jonah Echo
Jul 9th, 2008
01:04:54 PM
Im sort of remembering now, and isnt that where they ultimately went with the story? He was THE devil? I remember thinking WHAA? since it was sci-fi until then. And Rutger ripped out his heart.
in fact, I recall..
by Jonah Echo
Jul 9th, 2008
01:06:14 PM
the polic chief screaming "Do you want me to put out an A.P.B. on a little red man with horns and a tail?"
Circuitry Man?
by Series7
Jul 9th, 2008
01:07:16 PM
Do you mean Cemetary man?

Jarv, how do you feel about Muse and Ash? I was at an HMV in Heathrow once, and I had a Homeland Security t-shirt on, and the NED behind the counter asked me if I was there on official buisness. I was reeking of booze, hadn't shaved in like a week, probably had been wearing that tshirt for more then a day, I told him yes and to not tell anybody.

Gotta get
by Series7
Jul 9th, 2008
01:09:24 PM
Cameo appearences from Lance Henriksen and Clancy Brown some how and have the whole movie narrated by Keith David.
nope..
by Jonah Echo
Jul 9th, 2008
01:10:04 PM
I mean circuitry man: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt00 99271/

Cemetary Man was quite the interesting movie though. That one went far away from where I thought it was going. Refreshing.

The American music scene right now makes me cry
by Hawaiian Organ Donor
Jul 9th, 2008
01:10:05 PM
I'm tired of all these bands like The Killers, hip hop makes my ears bleed, emo needs to stop and nu metal is a joke.

The few good artists this country produces end up getting tossed by their record label after one album and then end up struggling for years and fold under financial pressures.

My favorite Ben is the one from down under, who recorded an album with Kweller and Folds called The Bens.

Split Second is sheer shit genius!
by DocPazuzu
Jul 9th, 2008
01:11:05 PM
Has one of the greatest movie lines ever. When Hauer's partner suggests that the villain they are chasing might indeed be... gulp!... Satan, Hauer responds:

"Well then Satan is in deep shit!"

Anyone remember Robert Ginty and Warriors of lost world?
by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar
Jul 9th, 2008
01:13:16 PM
I think that is what it was called. He did Exterminators as well.
Fuck off, M-O-M
by DocPazuzu
Jul 9th, 2008
01:13:19 PM
You will NOT ruin Split Second for me. You hear me? THE POWER OF CHRIST COMPELS YOU! THE POWER OF CHRIST COMPELS YOU!
Funny..
by Jonah Echo
Jul 9th, 2008
01:14:55 PM
all the reviews for Split Second can't seem to figure it out either, what the creature is. They mention that by the end it is wholly possible it was a rat mutant, an alien or the devil or all three.
DocPazuzu
by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar
Jul 9th, 2008
01:16:29 PM
The Exorcist line made Fred laugh! Memories-Of-Murder can't be that bad, can he?
Memories-Of-Murder
by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar
Jul 9th, 2008
01:23:03 PM
Fred not think you are Satan.
Memories-Of-Murder
by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar
Jul 9th, 2008
01:39:17 PM
So, what you are saying is that you ARE Satan? Fred confused, and just a little bit scared. Fred gonna steal, er, borrow some Holy Water - just in case.
Broke a 1000
by Hawaiian Organ Donor
Jul 9th, 2008
01:46:10 PM
Discussing mostly mindless twaddle. Good job, boys!

And now to bring us full circle, after 10,000 B.C. I can't say I'm looking forward to 2012, but ID4 and The Patriot will always have a spot in my DVD collection. I'll even buy them in whatever format comes after Blu-ray.

Hawaiian Organ Donor
by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar
Jul 9th, 2008
01:48:23 PM
Fred read that are Asian movie expert here, do you have opinion about Flashpoint, or City of Violence? Fred saw them at Best Buy and wanted to get opinion.
I've always
by Series7
Jul 9th, 2008
01:52:26 PM
Considered myself to be a Godzilla man. Anyone remember the original ending for ID4 with Randy Quad flying his beater plane into the Alien bomb pooper?
M-O-M
by Hawaiian Organ Donor
Jul 9th, 2008
02:10:20 PM
I fail to understand how a piece of luggage can not only be elected as President TWICE, but can fool people into believing his propagandist bullshit and lead a country into a baseless invasion.

It is what it is. What one man discards as garbage, another man digs out of the bin and makes the centerpeice of his living room. We're funny creatures, dude.

Memories-Of-Murder
by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar
Jul 9th, 2008
02:13:02 PM
Fred heard of that. It not quite say God is evil, more like God is not wholly good and possibly evil.
Well put HOD.
by Jonah Echo
Jul 9th, 2008
02:14:29 PM
Fred,

Flashpoint was just ok.

I wasn't a huge fan of City of Violence either.

Exiled, however, is pretty awesome..
by Jonah Echo
Jul 9th, 2008
02:15:15 PM
Fred
by Hawaiian Organ Donor
Jul 9th, 2008
02:18:34 PM
As AICN's resident Asian movie expert, I can tell you that Flash Point is barely a rental and City of Violence is a keeper. Flash Point is only redeemed by the final fight. CoV is excellent, although it's one of those Korean movies that feels really Asian. The kind that are anti-Hollywood where fights tend to be sloppy instead of slick, the editing is bizarre and all around it just feels 100% non-conventional. But those are all plus points.
ID4..
by Jonah Echo
Jul 9th, 2008
02:19:25 PM
was jingoistic and derivative of WOW, but it was also a pretty fun movie that was well intended at the same time it was hopelessly naive, and that added to it's charm (IMO). The only fault I take with ID4 was the Mac virus ending. It stalled the movie for me. But, I'll take that along with the cheesy pleasures it offers. Without that ending, it would prob be Emmy's best movie. As of now, that's still Stargate.

The Patriot on the otherhand was a hopeless mess in my eyes. A hopeless mess with a mighty good Gibson performance at the center of it.

HOD
by Jonah Echo
Jul 9th, 2008
02:22:11 PM
resident expert..know anything about when or where I might be able to see Negative Happy Chainsaw Edge

Favorite asian flick HOD? Or maybe a top ten?

Ax murder scene in Patriot
by Series7
Jul 9th, 2008
02:23:57 PM
Was classic. I heard Dustin Hoffman talk about how he was offered that role, but it was too violent. He then proceeded to say that he had pretty much been offered every role ever, but whatever Hoffman is my all time fav actor. He seems like such a nice guy, on Leno him and Chef Ramsey were on and after wards they both went up and shook the hands of the band that performed, Flobots. I like it when guest go on late night shows to have a good time, and when guest stay on for the second guest.
Put it this way M-O-M
by Hawaiian Organ Donor
Jul 9th, 2008
02:25:13 PM
I'm willing to bet that you, Jonah, Fred, Series and Danny (the only ones still present I'm guessing) could each put up a top ten movie list and not only would none of us be in agreement over a single movie, but that each list would contain at least 2 movies that were on the other's worst lists.

So go figure. We're all programmed differently. That's why they offer more than chocolate and vanilla ice cream nowadays.

HOD
by Series7
Jul 9th, 2008
02:31:41 PM
Work slow with you as well today? Toykyo Gore Police, you seen that? Is it out? Also did you see Big Bang Love, Juvenile A? Or I'm a Cyborg, But That's OK? And does anyone have the 3 disc collectors tin of Oldboy?
I Don't Know HOD
by Series7
Jul 9th, 2008
02:39:09 PM
I mean 9 of my top ten movies are the entire pixar collection.
Jack Brooks, Monster Hunter
by Jonah Echo
Jul 9th, 2008
02:43:12 PM
heres a link to the trailer. Comes ou August 1st. Robert Englund is in it.

http://cinemablend.com/new/Jac k-Brooks-Monster-Slayer-Traile r-9453.html

All this is subjective..
by Jonah Echo
Jul 9th, 2008
02:45:37 PM
I mean, one of my all time fave summer movies in the last 12 or so years was The Fifth Element. Saw it twice at the theater, bought it on vhs, dvd and now bluray. I can understand those who call it stupid, but me, I love it and not in a dumb way. I think it's very creative, witty at times and just relentlessly isane at others.
M-O-M
by just pillow talk
Jul 9th, 2008
02:47:43 PM
You know what's in the cave?

Only what you take with you.

Beware, you are Darth!

and the Patriot is very entertaining
by just pillow talk
Jul 9th, 2008
02:49:27 PM
I so wanted to love the Fifth Element, and even if I don't, I still must watch at least some of it when it's on.
Why would you do that to me, Jonah?
by Hawaiian Organ Donor
Jul 9th, 2008
02:50:10 PM
Ten years ago it would've been Hard Boiled hands down, but now it's almost impossible to come up with a favorite, to the point it makes my head hurt. But the ones near the top of the list would be Hard Boiled, Seven Samurai, The Hidden Blade, Sympathy For Mr. Vengeance, Shinobi, SPL, Yojimbo, Exiled, Fearless, The Warlords, Bittersweet Life, Kung Fu Hustle, Daisy, The Hidden Fortress, Musa, Last Hurrah For Chivalry, Oldboy and then it just becomes downright impossible to pick between the kung fu classics like Five Deadly Venoms, Master of the Flying Guillotine, Saolin Master Killer, Drunken Master, The 36th Chamber of Shaolin, etc. That's a tough list.
DG
by Series7
Jul 9th, 2008
02:51:42 PM
despise enough to be in your bottom ten though?
I'm A Cyborg, but that's Ok..
by Jonah Echo
Jul 9th, 2008
02:52:32 PM
is a really cool movie Series. It's style is more reminiscent of Gilliam than Park's other stuff. It's portrayal of mental illness is of course mostly so Park can explore a divergent visual style, but it does work, and finds odd ways to portray a romance between two wandering souls. And the tone is very dreamlike. A few excursions do venture into the "cool edgy" factor one usually watches these things for, like the main character's delusion that involves revealing the guns hidden in her wrists and systematically destroying the entire hospital staff in a five minute overhead sequence that patiently observes her shoot every last nurse on the premises.
Behold...
by DocPazuzu
Jul 9th, 2008
02:52:52 PM
...the diabolical buzz-killing power of Memories-Of-Murder, a k a BladeRunnerUnit.

You want to stop a TB dead in its tracks? Look no further than this miscreant.

It's been fun, guys. See you in the next TB.

Series7
by Hawaiian Organ Donor
Jul 9th, 2008
02:56:06 PM
No, in fact I have lots of work to do and I'm probably ten minutes away from being fired.

Gore Police is still playing in theaters in Japan as far as I know. I'm A Cyborg was possibly one of the most bizarre movies I've ever seen but visually is gorgeous and worth it to watch for the automatic fingers scene alone.

HOD..
by Jonah Echo
Jul 9th, 2008
02:56:06 PM
good on you for including The Hidden Blade. Seen Twilight Samurai and Love and Honour?

How bout Last Life in the Universe? I think that's a beautiful and odd movie.

No love for Finding Nemo, eh Danny?
by Rickey Henderson
Jul 9th, 2008
02:57:44 PM
What, did the seagulls frighten you?
Anyone seen or heard of
by Series7
Jul 9th, 2008
02:59:10 PM
Finishing the Game: The Search for a New Bruce Lee?
My wife is indeed Asian
by Hawaiian Organ Donor
Jul 9th, 2008
03:02:10 PM
She's from South Korea. So our daughter is 1/4 Dutch, 1/4 Mexican and 1/2 Korean. How's that for a melting pot.

Can't believe I forgot the Twilight Samurai, I love that movie. Have yet to see Love and Honor though.

Probably missed a bunch on my list, especially the older stuff.

How'd you folks swing a viewing of
by Series7
Jul 9th, 2008
03:04:34 PM
I'm a Cyborg? My favorite mind fuck Asian movie is Save The Green Planet. I love how the trailer makes it seem like this ZANY loopy comedy and its really fucked up and sad.
OH and yeah Danny
by Series7
Jul 9th, 2008
03:06:27 PM
I don't really like Finding Nemo either. Never understood why it was there biggest hit. Not that keen on Ratatouille as well, need to watch it again though. Everything else though I really like, and yes I am a 8 year old boy.
OK boys, I gotta get some work done
by Hawaiian Organ Donor
Jul 9th, 2008
03:19:01 PM
But yeah, my family is all over the place. Father from Mexico, mother from Holland, I was born in Canada, wife is Korean and I'm a naturalized American so needless to say I have LOTS of countries to cheer for come World Cup time. And my daughter is the very first person of either side of the family to be a natural born U.S. citizen.

I always fail to put the Korean dramas, comedies and romances on my lists. Some of them like Memories of Murder, Save the Green Planet, Silmodo, Princess Aurora, Mr. Socrates and Joint Security Area range from good to downright excellent.

I'm A Cyborg has been up on the Asian DVD rental sites since last year. I know a membership to two online rental services can get expensive, but I strongly recommend it for a few months to plow through some Asian goodness.

MOM
by Jonah Echo
Jul 9th, 2008
03:20:50 PM
I think I liked Hidden Blade better as well. It was a similar story, but I think I liked the fact that the renegade he had to fight in HB was a friend, a man he knew. In Twilight, for various reasons, it wasn't. Both are great films, but I'd agree.

Save the Green Planet is great. Just a wierdo flick to the very end, and yet it's touching, funny, creepy and sort of mind boggling. It's a grabbag of emotions but it never feels piece-meal. It all fits together and forms an organic whole. That was good stuff.

Again, I strongly reccomend Last Life in the Universe. It's quite something.

Any Survive Style 5+ fans here?

Danny
by Rickey Henderson
Jul 9th, 2008
03:22:26 PM
Rickey agrees--the Albert Brooks father was just grating. As was much of the rest of the movie. Rickey just likes giving people a hard time for being afraid of seagulls.
Roland Emmerich
by Cujo_Fugate
Jul 9th, 2008
03:24:48 PM
is awful.
Behold Danny..
by Jonah Echo
Jul 9th, 2008
03:26:01 PM
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt04 30651/

It involves Vinnie Jones as a hitman..there's a japanese salaryman whose hynotized into thinking he is a bird, and because Jones kills the hynotist before he can undo it, spends the rest of the movie as a bird. T.Asano is a man who keeps killing his wife and she keeps coming back from the dead, and beating the hell out of him. That's just the tip of the madness.

Pixar
by Series7
Jul 9th, 2008
03:39:37 PM
The movies are listed in order starting with my favorite, with my ranking of 1-10 next to it (10 good, 1 bad)

1. Toy Story (10)

2. Wall-E (10)

3. A Bugs Life (7)

4. The Incredibles (8)

5. Monsters Inc (8)

6. Cars (7)

7. Toy Story 2 (6)

8. Ratatouille (6)

9. Finding Nemo (5)

Vinnie Jones is in an Asian movie?
by Series7
Jul 9th, 2008
03:45:02 PM
that sounds awesome.

Jonah Echo, do you have an asian films dvd rental thing as well? Otherwise how'd you see I'm a Cyborg?

Speaking of weird ass movies
by Series7
Jul 9th, 2008
03:50:50 PM
This Survive Style movie sounds lik Schizopolis by Steven Soderbergh, anyone seen that?
Another weird
by Series7
Jul 9th, 2008
03:59:45 PM
Asian film was the animated movie Paprika, a sureal mystery. The animation was pretty amazing to boot.
DB yeah thats the one
by Series7
Jul 9th, 2008
04:01:07 PM
It very weird, worth a check. Well boys I'm off to job number 2. later.
My List of BAD
by Samson_K
Jul 9th, 2008
05:55:01 PM
The Amazing Captain Nemo - okay this was a television movie but it got a Cinema Release in the UK.

Leprechaun 4: Leprechaun in Space - now obviously the idea of a LEPRECHAUN in SPACE is something I don't think any of us would have thought could go wrong but somehow - it does.

Howling III - I mean they do have werewolf marsupials but somehow it just doesn't work. TAGLINE - 'Just when you thought it was safe to go down under' heh

Police Academy 7 Mission to Moscow (still waiting for Police Academy 8 - Bahgdad Precinct)

Starship Invasions - in 1977 they started making loads of sci-fi films with lasers and robots and shit. I include Starship Invasions but also include The Humanoid and H.G Wells The Shape of Things to Come, which is like saying Commando is W Somerset Maughan's Commando.

Night of the Fucking Lepus - 'fucking not actually part of the title'. You know what's not scary bunny rabbits, you know what's even less scary giant carnivorous ones!!!

Hawk the Slayer - Never in the History of sorcery and swords has the height difference between a giant and a dwarf been so insignificant

Though I have to agree with Lost Jarv - while all the above are awful - Forrest 'Do what your told and you'll be succesful do other things and you'll die!!!!' Gump is the worst piece of shite that has ever rolled out of the anus of Hollywood and somehow won an Oscar! It's an evil piece of filth and would only have been better if Gump had been a marsupial who had been eaten by a giant fucking rabbit!

This film is a CUNT!!!
I always though the background was a Rorschach test.
by Cotton McKnight
Jul 9th, 2008
07:38:25 PM
What is that exactly, anyway? What is "splodin"?
I know that Mr. Beaks thinks he's a good writer
by Cotton McKnight
Jul 9th, 2008
07:46:13 PM
but he really needs to lay off the movie references. Dude, you're not Dennis Miller. It's not funny. It comes across as disjointed and unreadable. And what's with calling The president "a black"? I kept looking for the end of that sentence. A black what? OH a black man. Gotcha.
Cotton
by Hawaiian Organ Donor
Jul 9th, 2008
08:29:56 PM
It's the White House blowing up from Independence Day.

I don't know how we've managed to keep this TB at the top of the charts with hilarious yet aimless banter.

So now folks are shitting on Forrest Gump. Has it been that long since I've watched it that's it's gone from good to garbage? Well, a 10 year hiatus can be rough on a movie.

Really? The White House?
by Cotton McKnight
Jul 9th, 2008
09:19:59 PM
I would have never guessed that but now that you mention it, I see it. Wasn't there an image of King Kong or Mighty Joe Young on here for awhile?

I think some are still mad that Forrest Gump won the Oscar
by Cotton McKnight
Jul 9th, 2008
09:21:08 PM
for best picture over Pulp Fiction and The Shawshank Redemption. That was one heck of a year for movies.
Holy Man
by Bricktops hammer
Jul 9th, 2008
10:25:07 PM
Holy shit what a terrible movie. Cotton, that must be the reason. Forrest was a good movie, but Best Picture over those two classics is hard to swallow. Maybe they couldn't choose between the two so they said Fuck It, let's give to the family friendly retard movie
Thanks M-o-M
by Lost Jarv
Jul 10th, 2008
02:10:16 AM
I haven't enjoyed a TB as much as this one in ages and then you come along and ruin it with your tedious faux intellectualism. Thanks, really.

To answer the other points:

1)Nu-metal is soulless dreck, but luckily won't last long.

2)I love Muse and Ash and have tickets to see Ash in November. I still sing Girl from Mars (badly) when drunk or in the shower, or possibly both.

3)Oik= horrible little surly cunt. See M-o-M.

4)Leprechaun in space is awesome: MITTENSCHPIDER!!!!

5)Circuitry man is terrible, although I like the comedy value of driving underneath America in what is blatantly a car park in LA. and the slug things. They were funny. Plughead bugged me though. He was trying to hard to be pin-head. And there should have been some Robot-human sex in that.

6)Good to see some hate for Forrest- conform or we'll give you AIDS- Gump.

Finally, Memories, that instinct post is yet more proof, as if I needed it that you haven't a fucking clue what we're talking about. We love a lot of these films because of instinct. We know they're bad, but we love them anyway. Why can you not understand this? Why do you feel a need to bore us with your bullshit justifications?

Just fuck off you parasite.

Spazatronic 2000
by DocPazuzu
Jul 10th, 2008
02:23:04 AM
Jesus, how fucking stupid are you anyway?
Spazatronic 2000
by chipps
Jul 10th, 2008
02:32:52 AM
I'm going to go ahead and assume you are being sarcastic. the others seem not to think so but i am going to assume that they are stupid and that you are too smart to actually believe that rubbish. If not fling me some facts and i will knock them down. I am prepared to reference texts books and will happily stick to those assigned to american economics courses.
M-O-M
by DocPazuzu
Jul 10th, 2008
03:08:36 AM
You are either the most conceited, arrogant, pedantic, joyless, miserable piece of besserwisser shit who has ever graced these boards or you simply have Asperger's Syndrome. If it's the latter, you have my sympathy. If it's merely the former, you can fuck off more than ever.
Control
by Series7
Jul 10th, 2008
03:46:20 AM
Well even though I woke up around 7AM yesterday and worked 2 jobs till 11:30PM. I poped in Control around 12:30-1. And stayed awake for the whole thing and watched a bunch of the extra freatures. Now I am going to bed for like a half hour. But amazing fucking movie, hearing Joy Division covered that well and sounding that clear was probably what got me. Biggest overlooked movie of last year, in fact next to Into the Wild it was the only dramatic movie that really got to me. Control was a lot better then Walk the Line and Ray. Fuck tomorrow is going to suck, I am going to look for my copy of Still before i pass out.

Wonder if this TB will be up and running tomorrow, or am I beating a dead horse.

chipps
by DocPazuzu
Jul 10th, 2008
04:31:44 AM
This is AICN talkback.
AAAAAAARRRRRRGGGGGGH
by Lost Jarv
Jul 10th, 2008
05:06:02 AM
What the fuck is wrong with you, you despicable piece of shit? Of course instinct is involved with any aesthetic appreciation. Why are you denying this patently obvious fact?

Jesus, it isn't rocket science. If instinct was so irrelevant to appreciation then PORN would not exist. You fucking idiot.

Unless, of course, you are some sort of highly evolved lifeform from the Planet Dipshit (3 Moons called Dull, As, Fuck), that has removed himself from his base emotions and has a cereberal filter that is always set to pretension.

Why don't you fuck off out of this TB, which you CLEARLY don't understand, and pollute either the Wall-E one or the Aronofsky one?

Christ. And what the fuck is up with all of you tolerating this pretentious little dipshit. He's TB Greedo and is just begging to be on the business end of a blaster.

on second thoughts that was a bit harsh
by Lost Jarv
Jul 10th, 2008
06:08:36 AM
Not to Memories, I probably wasn't harsh enough- but to the rest of you. I know you were only trying to reason with it, but there comes a point when reason fails and you would have more constructive time trying to persuade Giant Panda's to fuck to save their species.

Not only will he never admit that you might have a point, let alone concede that he may be wrong, but he will also patronise, insult and condescend you.

He is a TB remora, and only worth insulting. Look what he did to this splendid thread- for example.

So sorry everyone
by Lost Jarv
Jul 10th, 2008
06:09:22 AM
I'm off to the pub. It's a nice day and I'm pretending to have a migraine to get out of work.

See you tomorrow.

HOD and Finishing the Game..
by Jonah Echo
Jul 10th, 2008
06:28:50 AM
Finishing the Game was humorous. Not quite what I expected though.

HOD, I don't have a rental subscription but I should. As of now I usually buy stuff overseas I want to see. And some of this stuff I saw through friends who have rental subscriptions, or in the case of STGP, I saw it a convention a few years ago. Same with Survive Style.

Other good asian flicks:

Ping Pong-it's wonderful.

Funky Forest: First Contact-you have no idea.

The Place Promised in Our Early Days-an anime, available on Netflix. It's good stuff.

Calamari Wrestler-AWESOME. and available on Netflix. And about exactly what it says it is. A giant squid who shows up one day and starts wrestling.

Not an asian film, persay, but a finnish film crossed with an asian film-Jade Warrior. Loved this one, if for no other reason than seeing the lead from Man Without a Past wield a smithee hammer like he was Thor himself.

If you enjoy ghost stories, go for Kwaidan-an older Japanese film that is actually an anthology of stories, and is done with skill, artistry and intelligence. Not schlock, but one of the best looking horror films I've ever seen.

M-O-M
by just pillow talk
Jul 10th, 2008
06:32:01 AM
Whether you truly did not know my "cave" reference or not, it's from The Empire Strikes Back.

And while I most definitely fall under what Jarv referenced above, clearly you do not belong in threads where B movies and the like are the topic.

See, and now get this M-O-M, I'm psyched to see 10,000 BC tonight, even though it sounds like it would be dumb enough for my tastes. And you know what else?

My order from Amazon shipped today!!!!! The Thing...C.H.U.D.....double feature of The Monster that Challenged the World and It! The Terror from Beyond Space.

Do you feel the excitement in the air M-O-M? It's palpable.

fucking dammit...
by just pillow talk
Jul 10th, 2008
06:33:29 AM
should read "even though it sounds like it would NOT be dumb enough for my tastes."
oh, and caught Dan in Real Life last night
by just pillow talk
Jul 10th, 2008
06:36:48 AM
I have to admit that I enjoyed it.

Little does the wife know that there's really no more of her movies in the queue.

Next three up: In Bruges (better not be a "short wait"), Kill Zone, and Harper.

I liked Dan in Real Life as well..
by Jonah Echo
Jul 10th, 2008
06:44:31 AM
I didn't expect to, but by the time Carrell was singing "Let my love open the door" I had to admit I was touched. And of course the Ruthie "Pigface" Draper family sing-a-long with John Mahoney clearly delighted by the whole thing.

Major flaw with me was the daughters and the contrived conflict they had with their dad.

Jonah - indeed, her house built of straw
by just pillow talk
Jul 10th, 2008
06:51:14 AM
that was rather amusing. And I tend to agree about the daughters' thing to a certain extent. Perhaps they took it too far in terms of how much they were shunning their dad, but maybe not.
because this talkback greatly amuses me
by Jonah Echo
Jul 10th, 2008
06:57:06 AM
I want to see it keep going.

To bring it back to Roland, he is a director that for the most part is consisten with what he makes-some more succesful than others, but all do seem made by the same guy. ,p> Here is the new topic. What bout worst, or campiest moive that has a BIG name on it, or someone who should have done/known better. And no I don't want to hear Indy 4. I mean-Will Friedkin and THE GUARDIAN with the baby eating tree. Or John Frankenheimer and PROPHECY and ISLAND OF DR. MOREAU.

I mean at some point didnt Francis Coppola and Walter Hill have their fingerprints on the intergalactic tedium that was SUPERNOVA?

Discuss..

let's see...
by just pillow talk
Jul 10th, 2008
07:00:22 AM
The Island of Dr. Moreau...Val was in that, was he not? Marlon played the island.
Neil Labute and THE WICKER MAN
by Jonah Echo
Jul 10th, 2008
07:01:40 AM
just looked it up
by just pillow talk
Jul 10th, 2008
07:02:17 AM
And I didn't even realize that Jango Fett was in it.
M-O-M
by DocPazuzu
Jul 10th, 2008
07:22:48 AM
Why don't you apply the same effort and prove to us that you understand why it is the rest of us here enjoy bad movies in a way that you clearly do not. Better yet, explain why you simply CANNOT enjoy these types of movies unless you attribute deeper or subtextual meaning to them. Surely even you, upon perusing your efforts in this talkback and comparing them to ours, must see that there is an enormous disconnect going on here.
M-O-M
by just pillow talk
Jul 10th, 2008
07:36:08 AM
I'm talking about the original Thing. I encourage you to go out and rent it. And I never saw Cosmos: War of the Planets. I see that the U.S. version it was called War of the Planets. It seems to be an Italian movie. I wonder how that stacks up to the classic mentioned above 3 Fantastic Supermen.
max payne trailer/teaser
by HANSOLOS_CARBONITEFROZENPENIS
Jul 10th, 2008
07:49:20 AM
http://www.shacknews.com/onear ticle.x/53528
Jonah Echo
by Series7
Jul 10th, 2008
07:54:49 AM
Yeah Ping Pong was awesome! By far my favorite sports movie probably until the Sean Astin/Gary Cole ass kicker (HOPEFULLY!) that is Forever Strong. Its an upcoming Rugby movie, seeing as that I'm a rugger I can't wait! Started in college, having a bit of a hard time getting back into it because I can't find the time. But I hope its good. Like its been an idea of mine to make a documentary about college rugby (in USA) since its the biggest CLUB sport and a majority of it is all student run. There is just a lot of passion for the game there and I loved every second of it, even after I changed colleges going from a nationally ranked team to a struggling team. NOW all I need to do is figure out how to make a documentary.

Oh yeah my other big documentary idea was sort of like Fanboys, but not in the since of a gay movie with a plot. But going around the country and learning about the people who wait in line for days in advance for movies/games/events, but seeing that with Fandango and Movie phone being so big today it doesn't seem like people do that anymore. It would've been great to start the doc back in 1999 and keep with it all the way through ROTS. And maybe through in some other big movies inbetween. The only people who wait in line now are college kids trying to get season tickets to their basketball team or something.

Jonah Echo
by Series7
Jul 10th, 2008
08:03:22 AM
So when you say you buy things overseas, like do you have a region free DVD? Or some sweet Lasar disk connection? And the movies you get do they come with subtitles in english? Because I really want to catch more asian films sooner...before I forget about them. Like Save the green planet I rented off of Netflicks because I saw previews for it on other american dvds I rented.
Series...
by Jonah Echo
Jul 10th, 2008
08:05:10 AM
I live in Baltimore and the Senator Theatre (AICN actually posted an article to save the Senator a year or so ago-and thankfully, the Senator survived) is an old-style movie house in the area. It has played all the Star Wars movies,and when my wife(fiance at the time) and I went to see Revenge of the Sith, the Senator had someone who had collected video of the camping line for each prequel, from the first to the last. It was cool because it showed the difference in expectations, people as their lives changed over the course of the three films, and the way in which the hardcore fans were never fazed by any negativity but came to each film always excited and ready for a masterpiece. It was about 15 minutes and was perfect to set the mood for ROTS, which in my opinion did knock it out of the park, and remains my third fave star wars film. So, on a more microcosmic scale, I think that mini-docu attempted to do what you were talking about, and it was entertaining and I think provided a better insight into geek mentality than alot of the more professional docs have managed. No condescention.
And when Indy came out..that same line was back..
by Jonah Echo
Jul 10th, 2008
08:11:08 AM
and after the movie they looked thrilled for the most part. There are some fans out there that are unfazed by the negativity, or even in some cases, the quality of the thing they idolize. I'm not personally ragging on Indy, because I too loved it, but I hadn't built it up, or thought much on it. These guys were eating,sleeping, talking it and they still loved it-or what it represented, I think. I'm not making a judgment call, but as a creative sort myself I always wonder how does someone come up with something that triggers that kind of devotion, and is it even something one should desire? The "line people" around here are always there opening night at the Senator. And it has been years since I've joined them. I think Dark Knight will be the first exception since Return of the King for a midnight showing for me.(The Indy 4 reactions were noticed by a friend, not myself).
Good morning, one and all!
by Hawaiian Organ Donor
Jul 10th, 2008
08:12:16 AM
Jarv - I know you're away, but I apologize for not ripping into the trolls like you hope I would. For a tree hugging, no meat eating, hybrid driving, ultra liberal atheist, I'm the angriest man you'll ever meet and I rage enough to my wife and friends so I see these TBs as the one place I can try to control my hatred of the world. If I vented here, there I would be doing it 24 hours a day (I grind my teeth at night so even sleep isn't a respite) and I would be dead within a week from high blood pressure. And as much as Memories annoys me, he entertains me with his pontificating so I let it slide.

Pillow and Jonah - what can I say, I liked Dan In Real Life too. Sometimes that sugary sweetness hits the spot, especially on those days when you think humanity is garbage and needs to be wiped out by airbourne ebola.

In Bruges is fantastic. Kill Zone is probably my fave all time Asian action movie behind Hard Boiled.

Hope you're feeling OK, JPT. Going off little to no sleep is brutal on an old codger like myself. Not like the old college days where I could be out drinking until 4AM and then open up the Blockbuster hungover or still drunk 3 hours later.

Series, region free..
by Jonah Echo
Jul 10th, 2008
08:20:11 AM
player. However, back in college when I wasn't up to speed on the foreign film scene, I was buying stuff off e-bay I assumed was actual legit release, and most of the time it was bootlegged. Took me awhile to figure that out. The giveaway: Azummi showed up with the correct title, picture and what not, but it has the Fox Logo dropped on the spine, and the credits at the bottom of the dvd back were for Wall Street and the description/summary on the back was from Return of the King. And the dvd smelled like burning plastic.
Asian movie rentals
by Hawaiian Organ Donor
Jul 10th, 2008
08:23:10 AM
Some movies on sites that rent Asian DVDs have region free discs along with the region 2&3 discs. Before I bought a region free player, I would just rip the movie with DVDFabDecrypter which actually removes the "region" and then burn it to a disc so that it's playable on any DVD player.

99% of the movies you rent on those sites have English subs. If not they will let you know. The subs aren't always perfect but they're always good enough to follow.

And you didn't hear it from me, but if you're really hard up to watch some movies, check out the torrents. Even I'm willing to admit I've downloaded more than my share of Asian movies and ended up buying a copy of them when they became available for purchase because I wanted to support the industry and have a perfect quality version of the film.

Hawaiian
by just pillow talk
Jul 10th, 2008
08:28:38 AM
Yup, I heard good things about In Bruges, so I'm looking forward to that one. And I moved up Kill Zone based upon your recommendation.

Yeah, after staying up till midnight, having a few beers and a martini last night, makes me quite the tired pillow in the morning.

Pirated discs
by Hawaiian Organ Donor
Jul 10th, 2008
08:32:21 AM
Jonah is spot on. If you're going to buy movies, be careful. There are some trusted sites out there like YesAsia and HKFlix (who probably take $100 a month out of my pocket) but buying stuff off eBay or less reputable Asian sites will burn you. I was so desperate to have a copy of Tom Yum Goong when no one else had it yet that I bought a copy off a lesser site. The movie looked to be a VHS rip and the person who wrote the subs must have been a MST3K fan because half the subs mocked the character speaking.
The Dark Knight
by Series7
Jul 10th, 2008
08:33:15 AM
Is going to be huge. Its pretty amazing the type of buzz and want this movie is generating, outside of the geek community. Theaters are going to be having 3AM and 6AM showings for it! I mean especially in a summer like this, where every movie I've seen (minus Wanted) has knocked it out of the park and have all pretty much been comic books or fan boy stuff, that people still want more that it hasn't become overkill. We haven't had a summer this good in a LONG time, next year is going to be terrible, with the strikes and all, but if TV is any sign of what could happen to movies we are in for some great stuff in 10-11, because all the shows that went off the air during the strike and came back for a couple of episodes after it was over, those episodes were fantastic.
Out of my pocket every month for purchases
by Hawaiian Organ Donor
Jul 10th, 2008
08:34:24 AM
Need to clarify that. It's not like they're jacking me at gunpoint.
Also, Series..if you are just coming to the asian scene..
by Jonah Echo
Jul 10th, 2008
08:37:25 AM
alot of stuff is on Netflix. You can certainly start there.

I've pimped it already, but if you are a fan of old horror films and asian film, queue up Matango. It's a seriously wierd film that is actually more of a meditation on drugs and hallucinogenic experience, as well as a somewhat retelling of the Lotus Eaters than it is a rubber suit monster flick. It's director is Ishiro Honda, of Gojira fame, and this one is his best movie alongside that one. It was done in the 60s, but the odd atmosphere and subject matter make it feel more like something ripped from E.C. comics.

In Brugess
by Series7
Jul 10th, 2008
08:38:19 AM
Yeah I rented it like when it first came out, I was going to watch it, but my buddy said he wanted to see it so I just burned a copy. He's been lazy about coming over and now he tells me that its like next up on his queue. So maybe I'll watch it tonight as well.

If you missed it before I was up till 4 in the AM watching the movie about Joy Division called Control, amazing movie. Totally overlooked by America, we were too busy worrying about Raising Arizona remakes and making teen pregnecy seem OK!

Series..
by Jonah Echo
Jul 10th, 2008
08:38:40 AM
you said pretty much every movie you've seen. Did you see Indy, and if so, does that mean you liked it? Not to rile anyone up, or start one more conv regarding it, but did you?
Fred will rent In Bruges and Kill Zone
by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar
Jul 10th, 2008
08:39:41 AM
Fred needs movies for this weekend since Fred saw HB II already. Fred post review on HB TB if anyone interested.
Fred
by Hawaiian Organ Donor
Jul 10th, 2008
09:05:14 AM
Interesting. Harry's favorite scene, the market, was your least favorite.

Sadly, like every summer movie this year save for Indy 4, HB2 will be a rental for me.

You'll love Kill Zone. Hopefully it arrives in time for the weekend. I need to find a big action movie on DVD I haven't seen yet for the weekend. And then top it off with boxing on HBO Saturday night. Men killing each other and then beating each other senseless. Is there anything better?

I'm not totally new to the Asian scene
by Series7
Jul 10th, 2008
09:05:42 AM
I'll go back and forth with it, just beacuse sometimes I get sick of subtitles you know. And there seems to be a lot going on. With netflicks though all the major Asian films I want to see are always LONG WAIT, like Funky Forest, and King of Comedy. As for torrents, I used to do those all the time, but I've manged to fuck up another external hard drive in less then a year this time and I am just sick with my computer and want a new one (I got like a four year old Dell laptop), kind of retarded seeing that I am suppose to be a computer major or so says my degree.

Echo, I've been to Baltimore many of times. Arundel Mills Muvico Egyptian, is the oddest thing I've ever scene. I don't understand the reason behind it. Why Egyptian?

Hawaiian Organ Donor
by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar
Jul 10th, 2008
09:11:52 AM
Opinions are subjective, but bottom line is that Fred was disappointed in HBII. It not bad, just not very good.Fred very, very excited about TDK though. Fred couild use a big action movie Fred never saw before too! Trouble is, Fred has seen most! Thought about Golden Compass, anyone have opinion on that?
Muvico Egyptian
by Jonah Echo
Jul 10th, 2008
09:18:12 AM
Series, I don't really know to be honest. It is indeed the wierdest movie theater to wlak into, with all those Anubis sculptures and faux pyramid stuff outside. Inside of course it's just a slightly larger mall movie theater. The wife and I usually only go there to see pre-screenings. It's a 45 minute drive to get there, and the ticket prices are higher than everywhere else. We also live about five minutes from the Wihitemarsh theater, so we often go there-when we arent going to Senator, Charles or Landmark-the new theater at the harbor that truly plays indies, foreign an mainstream. Let me know if you are ever in Baltimore forany length of time. Maybe we can catch a movie or something.
Golden Compass..
by Jonah Echo
Jul 10th, 2008
09:20:36 AM
Disappointment. If you want a good fantasy film that's new, try Spiderwick Chronicles. I love that one. In fact, I think Harry posted my review back in February. No one read past the part where I mentioned no Indy trailer.
Since we are talking about anything right now..
by Cotton McKnight
Jul 10th, 2008
09:23:58 AM
I got a question for you all. I go to a University where you can get Microsoft software for like 20 bucks. it's for "students only", even though its got everything a regular Microsoft dvd would have. The question is, can I sell something like that? Completely random question I know.
In Bruges is awesome!
by HoboCode
Jul 10th, 2008
09:26:44 AM
Cunt kids.
Golden Compass
by Series7
Jul 10th, 2008
09:29:59 AM
= Terrible TERRIBLE MOVIE! Oh man. Go find on the You Tube somewhere the clip of the polar bears fighting, and thats all you need to see. THAT WAS FUCKING AMAZING. I remember seeing it right before Kung Fu Panda came out and how Ian McShane was voicing the bad guy in that movie, and I thought that was a great choice. Turns out he voices the bad Polar Bear in Compass as well, hopfully Panda is better. Also there is this little british boy in this movie who not only is just an ugly kid, but a terrible actor and I was like, why didn't they just get Freddie Highmore? TURNS OUT THEY DID! But he is just the voice of one of the animals, more about Freddie in a bit. Final problem with the movie is the director, what has Chris Weitz done that shows he can handle a big movie? American Pie is terrible directed, About a Boy was very good, but again a very simple movie technically speaking. It was like, well this guy likes British things, lets let him do it. He even said that he thought this movie was too big for him (SIGN?). Also the plot was all over the place, it wanted to be wizzards and whiches and evil/secert societies and talking animals and magic devices. Just too much, and ending was dumb something about dust? Daniel Craig is not a good actor, Nicole Kidman didn't seem like she knew what her character was suppose to be (good or bad?). If I had turned it off the second the Polar Bear fight ended, it would've been perfect, instead there is like another 30-40 minutes of some resemblence of a plot. I can't believe this movie got any Oscars. I wasn't a fan of Transformers, but we all known is should've won for VFX, not that garbage that Coke perfected in the early 90's. It no wonder New Line died after that movie.
Greatest TB ever
by Hawaiian Organ Donor
Jul 10th, 2008
09:35:00 AM
How did an Emmerich thread become so darn interesting?

Cotton, look, I'm the first to admit I like hearing about Microsoft taking a spill and no one is happier that the major music labels are hurting due to downloading, BUT, I wouldn't mess with MS software. If it somehow comes back to you, you're going to have a dozen ball washing lawyers on your back and that's something no one needs. So tread lightly, good fellow.

The Golden Compass put me to sleep. Not even worth a rental.

Indy
by Series7
Jul 10th, 2008
09:41:09 AM
Yeah I enjoyed Indy, I didn't really care about the character. The day it came out I had taken the day off of day work because I pulled a muscle in my back at night work the night before. So I was home all day doped up on percocet, and my roommate was off and we watched 2 of the 3 indys. Neither of us really knew Indy at, because we sat through 15 minutes of Temple of Doom before we realized that it was not the first Indy movie. I'll say that Raiders has probably the best opening of any movie ever. But the Indy's were over the top and I felt that this new one fit right in. My only problems were the unstoppable force known as John Hurt, who is like 60-80 years old and seems set to play bumbling old genius till he dies, who goes down three waterfalls a 20 foot drop down a cave and not only is he not dead but no one even has to help him get up. I'll buy that no harm can be done to Indy, but as for everyone else being invincible, I just needed something like "The crystal skull makes you invincible".

Also for such a huge budget I was glad and surprised that it had the worlds ugliest cast ever for a movie of that size. Normally hollywood has to throw in good looking people for a big budget, but man every one looked like shit. Now I don't think Cate Blanchett is good looking to begin with, but most people do, make her were hefty bags for pants and a terrible accent (not worse then Highmore though, I'm getting there HOLD) and there's no way she could be considered good looking. Also were in the fuck did they find that priest for the end of the movie? When that guys pervy looking mug came on the screen the auidence started laughing. The stache, the terrible acne scars. HOW did that guy end up in this movie? It was fun and over the top, like the old Indies. I mean in a world where the Mummy 2 and National Treasure exsits you can't expect the beards to make a movie thats smaller in scale, they had to show them up.

*cough cough*
by DocPazuzu
Jul 10th, 2008
09:42:30 AM
*cough*cinemageddon*cough*
Golden Compass
by just pillow talk
Jul 10th, 2008
09:44:00 AM
Yup, it was rather boring. I've never read the books, but it seemed like gobs of stuff was missing and nothing of interest really happened. The polar bear fight was kind of cool, but let me see, if I'm king of the polar bears now, I'm bring my boys to where they're keeping all the kids. And then me and my bear pals would maul all the bad guys.
series..those are my feelings too on Indy 4
by Jonah Echo
Jul 10th, 2008
09:51:12 AM
minus the fact I didnt notice the priest, and I think Blanchette is attractive. I grew up with the movies, but hadnt watched them in a while, watched them right before Indy 4 and found it to be apiece with them.

And with John Hurt, I fully expect to see a Baron Munchausen flick with him in the title role soon.

And to bring John Hurt to the B-conv..
by Jonah Echo
Jul 10th, 2008
09:55:45 AM
Anyone see Roger Corman's last directed movie, Frankenstein Unbound? With Raul Julia as Victor Frankenstein,and Hurt as a man who invented a futuristic machine that activates some sort of time storm that flings him back to the time of Victor Frankenstein. It's a good b-movie.
Indy 4 was merely okay
by just pillow talk
Jul 10th, 2008
09:56:24 AM
That is all. Jarv brought up the excellent point about nuke the fridge scene.

It happened too early into the movie where Indy survived the most crazy sequence that couldn't be topped anywhere else in the movie.

My favorite action piece was the motorcycle-university-pulled-t hrough-one -car-window-get-out-through-th e-other-window scenes. THAT really felt like Indy to me. I did not like the jungle scenes, just didn't work for me.

Freddie Highmore and the Spiderwicks
by Series7
Jul 10th, 2008
09:56:35 AM
MAN I WANTED TO LOVE THIS MOVIE! I really did, after the crapfest of bordom that was the Golden Compass I needed some good ole kid adventure movie. But sadly to say I didn't like it. The special effects were awesome, I thought it was well directed as well. But I thought the story wasn't that good, and Freddie's terrible TERRIBLE American accent totally took me out of the movie, I couldn't get over it. And to DOUBLE UP ON IT! AHHH at least Lohan only had one British speaking part when she did this. I was hoping for another Bridge to Terabithia, and from the reviews it seemed like they had. It was more like Bridge to Terabithia but it was real. I don't know why they decided to not get Josh Hutcherson to do Freddies part, it would've been much better. Also Mary-Louise Parker looked like she didn't ever believe anything was going on, not a good blue screen actress. And why was Seth Rogan a voice in this and every other cartoon movie?
RAUL JULIA
by Series7
Jul 10th, 2008
10:05:56 AM
Was the BOMB in Street Fighter!
Fred must support movies with actors named Fred in them
by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar
Jul 10th, 2008
10:13:06 AM
Fred skip Golden Compass, but Fred will rent Spiderwick - next week. Fred saw Frankie unbound. It was a good B movie. Raul is missed. Fred may watch Addams Family - first one, again. Raul was great in that.
Wouldn't you think that Harry or Mori would chime in here
by Hawaiian Organ Donor
Jul 10th, 2008
10:27:41 AM
If for nothing else out of curiosity why this TB is still tops despite all the big movie news being reported this week. If this was my site I'd be interacting more with the readers who were so passionate to keep a good thing going.

Really, when was the last time a non-political, non-Lost, non-vitriol TB went on this long? In it's 10+ year history, this may be a first on AICN.

The Island of Dr. Moreau
by Series7
Jul 10th, 2008
10:27:50 AM
I loved that movie. I've tried to read the book, but even though its really short for some reason I can never finish it? It was the first book I ever ordered from amazon. I've also watched the old Micheal York one, but this one is better. I love how Val and Brando just went for it, also it made me really like David Thewlis, who's never seem to get anymore leading parts since this. Looks like he could've been Simon Gruber, I guess I'm glad he turned that role down though, he wouldn't have been as good as Irons.
HOD
by Jonah Echo
Jul 10th, 2008
10:37:52 AM
I think it's because mostly this talkback has revolved around movies, and specifically B-movies. I think our directing it that way has made it more like one of those kids around a campfire going "Hey guys remember this? what about that?"

And that is appealing for a forum like this.

Creppy Small Guy
by Series7
Jul 10th, 2008
10:40:04 AM
What happened to him? Did he grow into Vern Troy? Ron Pearlman was in Island as well. That must've been a crazy movie to work on.
Why Raul Julia? Why now?
by Cotton McKnight
Jul 10th, 2008
10:42:08 AM
Didn't he die in like 1995? Thanks all for the advice on the MS software. I agree, probably not the best idea.
This TB
by Series7
Jul 10th, 2008
10:42:15 AM
I don't know how much longer it can be held up. Theres a lot of news today, and post seem to be dwindling.
X-Files
by Jonah Echo
Jul 10th, 2008
10:42:31 AM
Ok, Im gonna try it and see what happens. In an attempt to build my enthusiasm for the movie in a few weeks, how bout a discuss of fave or interesting eps, from seasons 1-7. I pretend that 8 and 9 didnt happen either. Also, anyone figure out what the "supposed" connection between those 8 just re-released eps were. I didnt buy the disc cause have the seasons. Just curious. I'd love to see this movie hit, and I would love to be excited either way, when it finally shows up.

Any takers?

Fred support everything with a Fred in it!
by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar
Jul 10th, 2008
10:42:32 AM
Fred feels wolrd would be better place if everyone was named Fred.
better point yet, Danny..
by Jonah Echo
Jul 10th, 2008
10:44:03 AM
agreed. Though I have to disagree about Ratatouille. I loved that movie. But I wont go for a long solliquy on it. I'll leave it at that.
I'd like to see a
by Series7
Jul 10th, 2008
10:45:35 AM
Harry cartoon with him as Brando's Dr. Moreau eating that little guy.
Freddy Highmore.
by Cotton McKnight
Jul 10th, 2008
10:45:40 AM
Finding Neverland made me cry. I am man enough to admit that. Especially at the end when SPOILER- Freddy asks Johnny why his mom had to die- END SPOILER.
Why this TB has been good
by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar
Jul 10th, 2008
10:50:57 AM
Fred agree that this TB has been mostly free of vitriol and has simply been a love-in for old and schlocky movies. That is a good thing. When Fred first signed up a few weeks ago, Fred visited every TB that was on the tracker. Some off the main page for weeks and months. Fred discovered interesting thing. Some TB's are still going on and on months even years later! There is a Capone Hulk TB that jkust has two guys debating one another. There are other TB's like Lost where lots more people get involved and keep it going. But mostly, it is because there is no fighting, even the debates are free of name calling - for the most part.
Cotton
by just pillow talk
Jul 10th, 2008
10:55:25 AM
Finding Neverland is a good, solid movie.

Fred, you'll see many old threads are visited. Kevin Willis recently discovered the past and now is posting madly throughout, though that's less to do with actual movies discussions.

oh, and since there's been no arguing...
by just pillow talk
Jul 10th, 2008
10:57:05 AM
Danny is wrong about his Pixar Jihad! There's some good shit they put out there (I enjoyed Ratatouille too)

he-he-he....

Glad to see this TB is still going
by Franklin T Marmoset
Jul 10th, 2008
10:57:12 AM
Some funny stuff here, as well as some love for films I had forgotten about. The Stuff, that was a good one.

Shit, I miss out on too much with this intermittent posting business. I am going to have to get me some internet at home so I can stay here for far too long and talk bollocks and get all fat and whatnot.

I think I'm going to see Hellboy 2 tomorrow
by just pillow talk
Jul 10th, 2008
10:59:42 AM
as a matinee. The netflix bitches are shipping In Bruges today (niiiice), so I'll be able to watch that puppy this weekend.
Horror Bob screwed me over, by the way
by Franklin T Marmoset
Jul 10th, 2008
11:01:08 AM
Dummy (aka Triloquist) was fucking awful. Just dreadful. What a terrible, terrible waste of my precious £3.95. It was going more for comedy than horror and it just wasn't funny. Also, the girl was sort of cute and did not get naked, which I reckon is a big no-no for b-movie nonsense.

Still, it made me appreciate the true genius of the Leprechaun series: Warwick Davis. There are few things in life funnier than watching Warwick legging it arounf in that Leprechaun outfit, giggling maniacally, and killing any bastard who steals his gold.

anyone see Sunshine?
by just pillow talk
Jul 10th, 2008
11:01:11 AM
I want to know if it's worthwhile to bump up for my next round of movies...
a #2 pencil to Horror Bob's neck
by just pillow talk
Jul 10th, 2008
11:02:27 AM
The CoC will take care of "Bob" for ya Frankie...
Hellboy 2 is out already!?
by Franklin T Marmoset
Jul 10th, 2008
11:03:47 AM
As far as I can tell, it's not out until 22 August here in England.

What the fuck is that all about?

Fair enough Danny...
by just pillow talk
Jul 10th, 2008
11:04:32 AM
And I'll take your word on the ingrown hairs on your balls. I guess it's good that your balls aren't in a jar like good 'ol Fred.
Sunshine is awesome...
by Jonah Echo
Jul 10th, 2008
11:04:59 AM
It's an honest to goodness sci-fi film, with an interesting premise, good acting and atmosphere by the shiploads. It takes an odd, almost horror-like turn about 2/3rds in that marred it a little for me, but it's still a great little movie. Don't walk in with too many expectations, but otherwise, expect to have a good time.
Danny, I liked 28 Days Later
by just pillow talk
Jul 10th, 2008
11:06:19 AM
Didn't see Millions, but Sunshine has me intrigued. I'm a little sci-fi watching whore, so glad to hear you liked it.

And that sucks for you Frankie.

Sunshine - Mostly good
by Franklin T Marmoset
Jul 10th, 2008
11:06:20 AM
It starts out well, and I think Chris Evans is a better actor than anyone that good looking deserves to be, but it goes a little awry toward the end. Not awful, but a little too trippy for my taste.

Still worth a watch, I reckon. I don't think Danny Boyle has done anything that's not at least worth a look. Except The Beach, maybe.

I'll be watching Little Britain Live Tonight
by Series7
Jul 10th, 2008
11:06:27 AM
And Americas Top Dog as well.
that's two "yea's" for Sunshine
by just pillow talk
Jul 10th, 2008
11:07:37 AM
and I'm not expecting the next great sci-fi movie by any means, but I certainly want an entertaining one.
And for X-Files..
by Jonah Echo
Jul 10th, 2008
11:07:51 AM
Favorite episode has got to be that one involving the black and white and "The Great Mutato". Only thing I can recall that I loved even though it had copious amounts of Cher music.

SUNSHINE WAS AMAZING!
by Series7
Jul 10th, 2008
11:11:33 AM
Especially if you saw it on the big screen! Which Fox searchlight put it out there for like one week, too busy getting ready for Juno. And yes, Chris Evans is highly underated. I really liked Sunshine. Though I haven't gotten around to watching it on the DVD, makes me want to get a blue ray though. I'd like to know how much Sunshine cost to make, because it could've been huge, it was the best movie I saw last summer, it could've been a sleeper hit.
Millions is quite a fine movie..
by Jonah Echo
Jul 10th, 2008
11:12:11 AM
I truly dig the ending and the imagination at work there, indeed, for the entirety of the movie. It balanced sentimentality and seriousness very well, and gave you strong central characters. So good was this, that I think I liked Waterhorse as much as I did because Alex Eitel was carrying all the goodwill from Millions with him. And the Waterhorse, if you are interested, is actually pretty good.
Sunshine is probably the best Sci -Fi film
by Series7
Jul 10th, 2008
11:12:51 AM
This decade, until Wall-E.
I saw Sunshine at the theater too..
by Jonah Echo
Jul 10th, 2008
11:14:15 AM
it was only at the little art theater though. I also think it was one of last summer's small handful of great movies(namely, Harry Potter,Stardust, Ratatouille and Paris Je T'aime).
X-Files
by Series7
Jul 10th, 2008
11:16:45 AM
Man I never REALLY got into X-Files, probably because I didn't live in America for most of its run. So I could never follow the black eye ink story. I like the one offs, but mainly all I know are the main ones. Like backwoods redneck family, sewer guy, the one with Jack Black and Giovanni Ribisi and the Bigfoot one from season 1.
the X-fles movie
by just pillow talk
Jul 10th, 2008
11:18:35 AM
for me, will be a nice little bonus...a nice summer surprise, it it turns out to be along the same lines as the stand-alone episodes. I mean, as a sci-fi fan, who wouldn't?
I saw Sunshine at the local Regal
by Series7
Jul 10th, 2008
11:19:27 AM
It was me and my mom... not that I live with my mom, she was just visiting.
Anyone catch Son of Rambo yet?
by Series7
Jul 10th, 2008
11:20:51 AM
Another good capturing of what real kids are like I though. Also pretty funny.
okay, after reading the little blurb on it...
by just pillow talk
Jul 10th, 2008
11:23:00 AM
I've added Millions to the queue.

See, this is why I come here. To get solid recommendations for you boys.

Sunshine and X-Files
by Hawaiian Organ Donor
Jul 10th, 2008
11:23:23 AM
That third act in Sunshine is a deal breaker for some folks. It sort of was for me. Up to that point I was on the edge of my seat and marveling at the stupendous FX. BEGIN SPOILER **I think they were afraid to let the sun/ship be the villain because audiences are so dense nowadays that they require a moustache twirling embodiment of evil rather than faceless physical elements, although Boyle did a decent job of melding the two by making the captain appear as an apparition** END SPOILER. For me it came close to being a perfect movie.

I only ever watched one episode of the X-Files. It just never seemed to be my bag.

Never say die, Series7. I bet we can keep this the number one TB through to Monday.

should read from you boys
by just pillow talk
Jul 10th, 2008
11:23:49 AM
This chicken parm is good!
Bad Blood
by Jonah Echo
Jul 10th, 2008
11:24:11 AM
was the vampy ep,and it's on that new 'X-Files: Revelations" dvd. Along with:

The Pilot(it's fine, interesting as the start of the show, but not amazing, not even terribly so in retrospect)

The FlukeMan(a good candidate to prove that these eps prob have no unifying theme to the movie, other than they are popular. I like the ep, but think it's overrated.)

Beyond the Sea-Brad Dourif. Nuff said. Best Scully ep ever, me thinks.

Clyde Bruckman's Final Repose-maybe the best X-Files. Peter Boyle giving a really awesome performance.

Memento Mori- Scully deals with the brain cancer for the first time. Really great ep, well acted. Typical from Gillian, but David "Putty face" Duchovny did great and sometimes subtle work in that one.

PostModern Prometheus-the Mutato one. Greatest use of "Gypsies, Tramps and Thieves" EVER.

Bad Blood-chubby little dark eyed kid from the sandlot as a pizza delivery vampire with false teeth and Mulder singing the Shaft theme, as well as Luke Wilson with hick teeth.

Milagro-Another really good one, from the sixth season. Just watched this recently where a writer is obsessed with Scully and his creation, a murderer is now after her. It was a little too vague, but well done nonetheless, and one of the more serious pushes to get Mulder and Scully on the road to getting together.

Those are the eps on this disc. If the movie is as good as even the least of them, then we are in good hands.

I'm just gonna say it
by Series7
Jul 10th, 2008
11:27:02 AM
Chris Evans and Ryan Reynolds just do it for me. If I were a women, man. And knowing that Ryan Reynolds is going to play Deadpool, the only comic book character I really care about is just awesome.
Son of Rambow is a MUST SEE..
by Jonah Echo
Jul 10th, 2008
11:28:01 AM
I even thought back to Millions while watching it, because the main kids had that same charm and effortless feeling of "real kids" and interesting characters. Right now, its the third best movie of the summer behind WallE and The Fall. It's just truly wonderful.
Reynolds and Evans are usually wasted..
by Jonah Echo
Jul 10th, 2008
11:30:51 AM
Sunshine for Chris proved he has great talent. The Nines moved towards making me more amiable to Ryan, but still not feeling the guy.
Tried to get back in to X-Files recently
by Franklin T Marmoset
Jul 10th, 2008
11:32:44 AM
They were showing episodes late on Virgin 1, and I was surprised at how much I was enjoying them. I remembered it as being decent if a little dreary, but the ones I saw were pretty good.

Unfortunately, the good folks at Virgin 1 stopped showing them, which is a shame. In fact, the last one they showed was a cliffhanger and after that... no more X-Files. It sucks, much like Virgin 1 on Freeview sucks.

Another reason to get some internet at home, I reckon - downloading telly. I am currently desperate to see season two of Dexter like a little girl is desperate for a pony, but I don't think ITV is showing it until next year. Next year!

Is Robert Patrick in the movie?
by Series7
Jul 10th, 2008
11:36:55 AM
Or was his character killed off in the series?
Is Robert Patrick in the movie?
by Series7
Jul 10th, 2008
11:37:24 AM
Or was his character killed off in the series?
Reynolds and Evans: Man crushes all around
by Franklin T Marmoset
Jul 10th, 2008
11:37:45 AM
I like both these guys, but I wish they'd make better films. Ryan Reynolds, especially, seems like he has everything a giant movie star needs... except a really good film to star in. He's been good in a lot of crap - Blade 3, Smokin' Aces, Film About Evil House Whose Name Has Fallen Out Of My Brain For Some Reason - but nothing too memorable.
Yea, TNT was showing them for a while..
by Jonah Echo
Jul 10th, 2008
11:39:37 AM
and then they went on sale from their previous ridiculous price of 89.00 a season to about 17.99 a season. Yea, that's what Im talking about. Over time I picked up 1-7 at discount prices, and have watched through them all save for season 7. Most of this I caught first run back when it was on.

Overall best season IMO was Season Five. It not only gave us the most focused and interesting main mythology episodes, it had some of the most memorable stand alones. I gurantee if you even a partial fan of the show, some of the eps you probably hold dear came from that season.

For example, the very first two Danny and I mentioned, Prometheus and Bad Blood are from season 5. Also there was Detour, which had the camoflouged creatures in the Everglades. The Stephen King Doll ep. The one with Daniel Von Bargen and the terrorists that unleash a biological weapon in movie theaters. The Will Gibson ep with the killer A.I. that had the best opening of an X-Files ever. That one with the office worker who kept seeing his boss as a giant bug and his fellow employees as mindless zombies drained by the bug. And there were plenty of others. Like meeting the Lone Gunmen at a Baltimore computer convention. Great stuff. I've always wondered if it was because they shot the movie the summer before the fifth season and so they had to tighten everything up to deliver a more streamlined and to the point season, with every ep counting.

The Amityville Horror!
by Franklin T Marmoset
Jul 10th, 2008
11:41:25 AM
The Amityville Horror is the name of the film.

Fuck, that was annoying. Not as annoying as the Clodplay song that won't fuck off out of my head, but annoying nonetheless.

Series7
by just pillow talk
Jul 10th, 2008
11:43:51 AM
No to both of your questions.

Indeed, Ryan Reynolds hasn't had a great role to be in as of yet. I do agree that Deadpool could be it. Definitely, Maybe was a decent movie that Reynolds was in.

shit, Danny beat me to it
by just pillow talk
Jul 10th, 2008
11:44:26 AM
It's only fair though, since he recommended it to me.
Clodplay
by Franklin T Marmoset
Jul 10th, 2008
11:44:59 AM
Believe it or not, that was an accidental but highly appropriate typo.

Clodplay indeed.

from this day forth, they shall be known as Clodplay
by just pillow talk
Jul 10th, 2008
11:46:00 AM
So commandeth the CoC...
That is now two nods for Definitely, Maybe
by Franklin T Marmoset
Jul 10th, 2008
11:47:24 AM
Which means I'm ashamed of myself for not being able to watch it the other day, especially since I subsequently threw my money away on Dummy.

I'll have to try again.

Evans, Reynolds and Chicken Parm
by Hawaiian Organ Donor
Jul 10th, 2008
11:50:47 AM
I'll hop on the bandwagon and say that Evans is more than a pretty face. He was the only good thing about the F4 movies.

And I gotta like Reynolds if nothing more than he's a Canuck. But I thought he was great in Definitely Maybe.

I'm going to get flamed here but my favorite sci-fi movie this decade has been Children of Men. Minority Report (yes, I know, I know) is a close second. It's a shame I can't say a Star Wars movie or something with as much potential as War of the Worlds are contenders.

Pillow, glad you're enjoying the parm. My BLT (with fakin bacon of course) was delish.

HOD
by Jonah Echo
Jul 10th, 2008
11:54:06 AM
I think Children of Men and Minority Report are good choices. I also think A.I., A Scanner Darkly, Primer and The Fountain(if you cal it scifi, are right up there too. And Sunshine.
Definitely Maybe needs a shoutout
by Hawaiian Organ Donor
Jul 10th, 2008
11:56:49 AM
More people need to see it. Great movie.

Danny, interesting to know you're a sap just like me. I loves me a good romcom. Love Actually is a brilliant. And here's where I get flamed again, I'm the one guy on the planet who loved Notting Hill, The Cutting Edge, Harry Met Sally and Serendipity. In fact, I watch them all once a year.

My favourite romantic comedy is Fight Club
by Franklin T Marmoset
Jul 10th, 2008
12:01:25 PM
Say what you will, but Fight Club is a romantic comedy. Guy meets girl, guy and girl hook-up but guy is hiding something, girl discovers truth and freaks out, guy learns something new about himself and is able to commit to new life with girl. The end.

Not everyone agrees with me about this.

For more traditional romcom nods, I like When Harry Met Sally and The Wedding Singer. Otherwise, I'm strictly a Woody Allen man. I like my relationship-based comedies to be a bit more realistic.