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Must-watch!! Channel 4 Takes You on a Tracking Shot Tour of Stanley Kubrick's THE SHINING!!

First!!! by kevinwillis.net	Jul 3rd, 2008 02:36:56 PM
And I love me some Shining. Always like Kubrick's vision better than the Made for TV goofiness.
I by la_sith	Jul 3rd, 2008 02:38:23 PM

cool by all	Jul 3rd, 2008 02:38:43 PM

LUV KURBRICK'S TEH SHINING by la_sith	Jul 3rd, 2008 02:38:53 PM

I Always LIKED Kubrick's Vision Better . . . by kevinwillis.net	Jul 3rd, 2008 02:39:55 PM
Stephen King has commented on a few occasion he didn't think that much of Kubrick's vision, but Kubrick really pulled it off, where Stephen King's much more loyal ABC adaptation just kinda fell flat. "Here's Johnny!"
One a Few OCCASIONS . . . by kevinwillis.net	Jul 3rd, 2008 02:40:37 PM
I apparently have trouble with the ending letters on some words.
Okay, I Give Up by kevinwillis.net	Jul 3rd, 2008 02:41:09 PM
Well, I'll be pigf**ked.
He didn't fret enough to remember... by FILMFUNK	Jul 3rd, 2008 02:43:02 PM
Or be bothered that none of the actors had any frosty breath in the final scenes in the maze and it always kills it for me since I noticed it years ago! For gods sake Freidkin Froze the Excorcist set man! call yourself a perfectionist Kubrick! Pah!!
I would like to see Jon Ronsons by emeraldboy	Jul 3rd, 2008 02:45:47 PM
documentary on Kubrick. Seriously ronson went to kubrick house and rummaged through his card board boxes. and he became friends with the kubricks and there is chapter on Kubrick in Ronson previous book.
Bonus points to Channel 4... by zombie_buffet	Jul 3rd, 2008 02:49:23 PM
...for using Amon Tobin music in their promo. And yeah: Kubrick's Shining is better than the TV miniseries version, though I liked both, because the story is such a cool one.
Is there an edit at the end? by Hockle	Jul 3rd, 2008 02:49:31 PM
Pretty wild. It looks like there might be an edit between the look-a-like Danny and the woman handing over the script. The vertical line of the wall seems odd. Maybe it's just an online compression thing. Cool either way.
Love by Conans Sword	Jul 3rd, 2008 02:52:36 PM

OOPS was gonna say i Love Channel 4 by Conans Sword	Jul 3rd, 2008 02:53:29 PM
thats where i saw battle royale and a clockwork orange for the first time. good days
Oh jesus christ by Guy Who Got A Headache And Accidentally Saves The World	Jul 3rd, 2008 02:53:52 PM
Turns out every body was wrong and The Shining was just "meh" all along, eh cocksuckers? Obivously, look at all the horror films that blow it away. Like.... uh, well I don't know, just take my word for it. Nothing worse than seeing some asshole flail around on his keyboard, his only dreams and aspirations are to be an iconoclastic asshole with such startling new opinions. I got news for you jack, this is the internet, there is no such thing as a new opinion, there are no experts, everyone hates and loves everything and your just a part of it all, a drop in an ocean of shit.
People don't get a Kubrick movie? How shocking. by la_sith	Jul 3rd, 2008 02:56:23 PM
http://www.visual-memory.co.uk /amk/d oc/0052.html
you can say... by Whitemouse	Jul 3rd, 2008 02:56:48 PM
a lot about The Shining but not "meh". and that advert/promo is brilliant!!
by matalo	Jul 3rd, 2008 03:00:06 PM
I did not notice a look alike Jack.
Awesome promo by henrydalton	Jul 3rd, 2008 03:01:54 PM
That sort of effort is not common these days.
Guy Who Got A Headache... by brokentusk	Jul 3rd, 2008 03:05:34 PM
Dude, teach me.
Great promo by moviemaniac-7	Jul 3rd, 2008 03:07:15 PM
Gotta love this stuff.
Guy Who Got A Headache... by Conans Sword	Jul 3rd, 2008 03:13:25 PM
dude calm down. just breathe.....ooooooh breathe...just breathe...ooooh breathe, There's a light at each end of this tunnel, You shout 'cause you're just as far in as you'll ever be out...yeah...nice song
NOT... by maxsummertime	Jul 3rd, 2008 03:21:17 PM
LEAN, NOT SPEILBERG, NOT LYNCH, NOT PECKINPAH, NOT THE COENS, NOT KUROWSAWA, NOT COPPOLA, NOT SCORSESE, NOT CASSAVETES, NOT MIYASAKI ( ALTHOUGH HE IS CLOSE...), NOT LEONE, NOT FINCHER ( ALTHOUGH NOT BAD ), NOT MANN, NOT SCOTT, NOT ARONOFSKY, NOT MANN ( GOOD THOUGH HE IS ) AND DEFINATELY NOT TARANTINO ( ALTHOUGH HE TRIES TO COPY HIM ), PT ANDERSON ( DITTO ), WES ANDERSON ( NICE COMPOSITIONS THO ) ETC..ETC..ETC.. NO OTHER DIRECTOR CAN CLAIM FILMS OF SUCH MONUMENTAL CULTURAL IMPACT AND LONGEVITY. SHOW ME ANOTHER DIRECTOR WITH SUCH BRILLIANCE IN DIVERSITY. THERE IS, AND WILL ALWAYS ONLY BE ONE KUBRICK. THE GREATEST. EVER. AND YES, MY CAPS LOCK KEY IS BROKEN.
maxsummertime by kwisatzhaderach	Jul 3rd, 2008 03:25:00 PM
agreed
This oughtta be good. by Zarles	Jul 3rd, 2008 03:25:40 PM
Watching a bunch of 12-year-old dipshits on summer vacation try and talk shit about one of the greatest directors of all time. Please, carry on.
maxsummertime by Conans Sword	Jul 3rd, 2008 03:26:19 PM
you my good friend are forgetting the greatest director of them all. Paul WS Anderson, no one else even comes close...cept maybe this one german guy i heard of :D
A Shining talkback... by skimn	Jul 3rd, 2008 03:30:56 PM
...wheres Octo..? Or The Shinning as he puts it.
SKULLFUCK by kwisatzhaderach	Jul 3rd, 2008 03:31:04 PM
Barry Lyndon is absolutely mindblowing, a masterclass in filmmaking. It's still hard to get my head around the fact that the same man made Paths of Glory, Spartacus, Dr Strangelove, 2001, A Clockwork Orange, Barry Lyndon, The Shining and Full Metal Jacket. Most top directors, if they're lucky, make one masterpiece. Kubrick made around five.
TARKOVSKY MS? by Darkocity	Jul 3rd, 2008 03:33:14 PM
Just throwing it out there. Thinking of stalker, Andre. Rublev, Solaris, hell the whole lot (not that ive seen them all). Actually presently suprised with ur conviction cos people seem quick to dump on him when comparing him to the other err...masters or whatever. This is most certainly cool news, Ron Johnson's Them was great as a book and a docu.
Darkocity by kwisatzhaderach	Jul 3rd, 2008 03:34:45 PM
Don't forget Bergman too.
This is amazing but... by Knuckleface	Jul 3rd, 2008 03:36:35 PM
I'm not sure Kubrick ever had this many people on his set. He always had a bare-bones crew, expect perhaps, on Spartacus.
Gay. by One Nation Under Zod	Jul 3rd, 2008 03:38:07 PM
Period.
Knuckleface by kwisatzhaderach	Jul 3rd, 2008 03:40:08 PM
Actually it looks pretty accurate, all the details seem to be taken from the making of The Shining short film that was made by Kubrick's daughter.
One Nation Under Zod by kwisatzhaderach	Jul 3rd, 2008 03:41:15 PM
Away and watch Superman Returns then. The very definition of the word 'gay'.
What's the point of this exactly? by JKrow21	Jul 3rd, 2008 03:41:42 PM
Why don't they spend the money they used to recreate this set on something useful.
PICKED THEM by maxsummertime	Jul 3rd, 2008 03:42:20 PM
ALL UP ON HD/BLU RECENTLY..ONE OF THE THINGS WITH KUBRICK IS THAT IT DOESNT MATTER WHEN YOU START WATCHING ONE - IT HYPNOTISES.... TRANSFIXES..ESPECIALLY ( FOR ME ) FULL METAL JACKET & THE SHINING - BOTH MASTERPIECES THAT ONLY IMPROVE WITH TIME. CANT WAIT FOR LYNDON TO GET A RELEASE ON THE FORMAT. WHAT OTHER DIRECTOR HAD THE BALLS TO START A FILM AND HAVE NO DIALOGUE FOR 30 AUDIENCE ALIENATING MINUTES ? HE WAS AN ORIGINAL. THE BOUNDERIES WERE PUSHED. I DONT SEE THAT TODAY. YET.
Need a 60-sec tracking shot of Jessica Alba's vagina by Lenny8	Jul 3rd, 2008 03:46:51 PM
Oh yeah
Don't forget Lolita by skimn	Jul 3rd, 2008 03:50:17 PM
Maybe not a "classic", but a great film in the middle of that phenomenal '60s period.
"No dialogue for thirty minutes" by skimn	Jul 3rd, 2008 03:51:29 PM
You mean like WallE?
If you can't get the player to work, it's here by Riley Martin	Jul 3rd, 2008 03:51:34 PM
If you can't get the player to work, you can watch it on the YouTubes here - http://tinyurl.com/6a49kh
Lemming... by loafroaster	Jul 3rd, 2008 03:51:46 PM
The Hotel wouldn't have gone apeshit if Danny Torrance didn't have 'the shining'. He's the catalyst that sparks it off. And The Shining is the greatest horror film ever made.
LIKE WALL.E. ? by maxsummertime	Jul 3rd, 2008 03:59:50 PM
EXACTLY. ONLY NOT AS GOOD, OBVIOUSLY. PIXAR DO HOWEVER, SHIT TIFFANY CUFFLINKS.
Did anyone spot Jack? by joe90025	Jul 3rd, 2008 04:03:54 PM
doing coke and banging hookers in his dressing room?
The Shining is sooo overrated by JackRabbitSlim	Jul 3rd, 2008 04:07:40 PM
that PT Anderson riffed on it for the climactic scene in his utterly mediocre There Will Be Blood. Oh, wait, both films were fuckin' brilliant. The mere fact that Kubrick chose not to go with the cheap scare of popping Nicholson out during the "all work and no play" scene (name me 5 others who wouldn't go the easy way - Spielberg sure as shit would) makes him virtuosic in the genre. Now, all those shots of chairs falling off tables, clocks suddenly stopping, furniture yawning shifting by itself in that bloated Mick Garris were insipid and tedious. And hedge animals by definition are NOT CREEPY. Unless of course you find plastic lawn deer and garden gnomes disturbing - which no one else does.
Great Promo by RaRoMo	Jul 3rd, 2008 04:08:13 PM
The Shining belongs in that fascinating category of "great but flawed" films (much like Kubrick's adaptation of Lolita). But the opening tracking shot high on the mountain roads; the little kid's tricycle riding over the different floor surfaces, each surface having a different sound; the wife's discovery of what her husband has been typing all these weeks…fucking brilliant. Kubrick was one of the greatest directors. If you haven't seen Barry Lyndon, rent it today. The scene in the barn where Lyndon has a pistol duel with his stepson? With its deliberate pace, and all its little interruptions, and sudden conclusion? That's what movies can be, but rarely are.
BTW - that shot of the guy in the dog costume by JackRabbitSlim	Jul 3rd, 2008 04:10:31 PM
slowly turning his head while catching a hummer - one of the most unsettling things I've seen put to film. Icky.
That was a cool promo by Iowa Snot Client	Jul 3rd, 2008 04:15:48 PM
Flawed, schmawed... The Shining scared the hell out of me. (OK, so I was 12.) Movies that have scared me as much as The Shining:
JackRabbitSlim... by loafroaster	Jul 3rd, 2008 04:16:07 PM
I concur, that shit gave me nightmares when I was younger. That and the elevator full of blood and the dead woman...brrrrr
that was cool. by Bones	Jul 3rd, 2008 04:23:36 PM
freaking sweet.
DAISY........................... ..... by maxsummertime	Jul 3rd, 2008 04:29:19 PM
.............................. .............................. .............................. .............DAISY
Proof positive ... by No Respectable Gentleman	Jul 3rd, 2008 04:34:53 PM
... that there's been too much loose change floating around. But that's about to change ...
This is sort of crazy. by eggart	Jul 3rd, 2008 04:54:28 PM
And makes no sense.
kwisatzhaderach by One Nation Under Zod	Jul 3rd, 2008 05:03:33 PM
It is you, my friend, who should fly to the nearest television to watch a Sci-Fi channel Dune Miniseries or a bloated David Lynch Director's Cut; both the very definition of bloated and pretentious. And gay. I'll be right here. And I'll still be right.
Extremely well done by force10	Jul 3rd, 2008 05:16:32 PM

i love tracking shots by ArcadianDS	Jul 3rd, 2008 05:33:38 PM
my favorite part of The Movies (tm)
Did anybody else think Shelly Duvall was really annoying? by Manos	Jul 3rd, 2008 05:35:06 PM
I remember watching The Shinning when it first came out and feeling sorry for her character, but I just watched it a few days ago and man...I think if I had to listen to that whinny voice all day, I would have grabbed the ax too. Go Jack!
Bravo by ZombieChimp	Jul 3rd, 2008 06:00:34 PM
That was the shit. Speaking of the making of The Shining: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =WnYsFODZGBo
RIP Bozo The Clown by Heckles	Jul 3rd, 2008 06:12:51 PM
Sad times.
That was AMAZING! by Gilkuliehe	Jul 3rd, 2008 06:27:45 PM
Why am I the only one geeking out about that promo?! It was the shit! And are you fuckers badmouthing THE SHINING now? What's next, you don'´t like THE FUCKING GODFATHER? Oh, I remember that talkback now, nevermind.
That's ... by GiveMeAnFinBreak	Jul 3rd, 2008 06:46:59 PM
Pretty fucking awesome. Something tells me that if I lived in Britain, I'd never be able to detach myself from my television.
Nice work indeed by Alfred_Packer	Jul 3rd, 2008 06:51:38 PM
...all the chicks typing up the pages for Jack's "play" I think was one of my favorite parts, but this a great job. Note to Warners....Put this as an extra on a future REAL BluRay Kubrick boxset with ALL the films, you know, the one with BARRY FUCKING LYNDON in it. Get on it boys.
kwisatzhaderach by quantize	Jul 3rd, 2008 06:55:16 PM
Agreed Barry Lyndon is MASSIVELY underrated... The Shining is a fucking masterpiece, some of the comments here are perfect little turds from the minds of mental midgets. Remove the kid? Duvall 'annoying'? jesus. Yeh ok so he was an asshole on set..the results worked.
Stanley - as intense as the movie. by INDIETHIS	Jul 3rd, 2008 07:16:48 PM
Will have to watch this - almost as good as the DVD extra's of the behind the scenes footage of the making of the movie Shining - watching Stanley send/turn Shelly into a nervous frantic human - to garner a grand performance - was just as intense as the movie... and as bad as one starts to feel for what Shelly the actor went through - it was by far Shelly(s) BEST performance to date. That was Stanley(s) true genius I think.
The Shining still reduces me to a puddle of scared by password.swordfish	Jul 3rd, 2008 07:26:34 PM
I don't think I truly appreciated it when I was younger. It's not only actually scary (rather than tense-music-and-then-psycho-po ps-out jumpy), it's a very elegant film. Kubrick takes his time with the shots, and his patience pays off big time. I think the music is a huge part of why this movie works - the scene with Danny and Jack when Danny goes to get his truck is a perfect example. If you listen to the dialogue, it could be a very sweet and endearing scene. But Nicholson's performance paired with the score makes it incredibly unsettling. Manos, I used to think Duvall was just really annoying in it until recently. Now I think it's a brilliant performance. She plays the broken woman perfectly - she's just so defeated.
This promo is all kinds of awesome by Anakin Whoopass	Jul 3rd, 2008 07:35:34 PM
And where the hell is Danny Lloyd these days? Supposedly he became a biology professor.
American Attitude to this EQUALS by A G	Jul 3rd, 2008 07:35:44 PM

WHY DID THEY WASTE ALL DAT MONEY?!!?! by A G	Jul 3rd, 2008 07:35:58 PM
It's art.
that was good by chipps	Jul 3rd, 2008 07:50:43 PM

Not as OCD as the DOOM level that guy created back in the day, a by YME	Jul 3rd, 2008 07:55:21 PM
http://www.unrealaudio.net/the shining2/download.htm
THE SHINING: yawn by thegreatwhatzit	Jul 3rd, 2008 08:21:15 PM
Not on the same tedium level as BARRY LYNDON but Kubrick obviously knew nothing about communicating "horror". His only concession to the supernatural was an allusion to reincarnation? More of his patented artificial intelligence (enjoyed THE KILLING but EYES WIDE SHUT was a beehive of pretension). I admit, I loved the book, perhaps prompting a grievous disappointment with the movie (I actually prefer the made-for-TV miniseries; more King than Kubrick). And I still don't understand the murder of Hallorann (Kubrick's perception of "shock"?). And why was Jack Nicholson allowed the liberty of mugging a la Robert Newton? (Kubrick opted to scream at Shelley Duvall, whose "Wendy" characterization is about as third dimensional as Paris Hilton). Jesus, I love CARNIVAL OF SOULS, CURSE OF THE DEMON (don't even think about a remake), THE DEVIL AND DANIEL WEBSTER, et al; all shot by directors who were impassioned with film (not themselves).
very by BrightEyes	Jul 3rd, 2008 09:03:28 PM
cool. Kubrick is a film making legend
All movies are gay by Myrrth Sicopath	Jul 3rd, 2008 09:54:12 PM
Why are we even here
I was reminded of the elevator scene by Boo Cocky	Jul 3rd, 2008 10:00:21 PM
last week when my girlfriend was on the rag.
I wish by Bricktops hammer	Jul 3rd, 2008 10:17:21 PM
Kubrick had been alive to direct A.I. What a different and great film it would have been. At least it wouldn't have had 7 endings
Imagine THIS re-creation of a Shining set: by Zeke25:17	Jul 3rd, 2008 11:24:04 PM
They remake, down to the finest detail, a series of hallways. You're given an oversize Big Wheel three-wheeler to ride, and you pedal on down each one, no sound in your ears but the wheels on the carpet, and then you make one last left turn and at the end of the hallway are incredibly lifelike dummies of those two twin girls ("Come and play with us. For ever...and EVER...and EVER...")! Or: you could pass by a series of doors, all closed, until you came to #237, which would be open. Just a crack. And it would be up to you whether or not to go inside....Now, crazy as it sounds, if that precise recreation was done somewhere close to my hometown, I would pay to check it out. One of the scariest, creepiest horror flicks ever made.
The Shining is very overrated... by drompter	Jul 3rd, 2008 11:28:10 PM
Sorry, just trying to be cool..
And this is one of those very rare cases... by Zeke25:17	Jul 3rd, 2008 11:50:57 PM
...where holding exactly to the book wouldn't have worked (in fact, it DIDN'T work, as anyone who saw the TV miniseries can attest to). Don't misunderstand: I still believe that novel to be one of the best things King ever did. As it's written, it works brilliantly...ON THE PRINTED PAGE. Translated to the screen, it lost so much power; there was nothing at all really forboding about the TV Overlook. The hotel didn't "loom", the hallways didn't seem to stretch to infinity, the "Grady" character was a joke...in fact, even though Steven Weber tried mightily, the only really scary thing in that version was the dead woman in 217...and she was onscreen for what, five minutes? (Also, whoever came up with "Kissin kissin that's what I've been missin" should be kept away from a keyboard the rest of his life...UGH.) Kubrick altered the story in many ways, true: but he kept the scope, the eeriness, the PRESESNCE of the hotel very much alive. The only thing I really would have asked him is why in the world he had Ullman refer to Grady as "Charles"; whereas the butler/caretaker identifies himself as "Delbert Grady" to Jack Torrance much later in the picture.
The Shining can't compare to the Langoliers by Myrrth Sicopath	Jul 4th, 2008 12:00:30 AM
...or Dreamcatcher, those two were obviously the best Stephen King movies based on books. Best Stephen King movie ever? Maximum Overdrive!!!!!!!!1 RIGHT GUISE?
In all seriousness, the best King movie ever... by Zeke25:17	Jul 4th, 2008 12:02:59 AM
...has to be CARRIE. I'd put The Shining a close second, and Christine right after that.
When will Michael Bay be damned, damn it? by Cletus Van Damme	Jul 4th, 2008 12:23:08 AM
I'm on the edge of my seat!
A lookalike for Shelley Duvall? by Motoko Kusanagi	Jul 4th, 2008 12:52:59 AM
I pity that girl who looks like that butt-ugly bitch.
If one were to wander by comedian_x	Jul 4th, 2008 01:59:25 AM
into any talkback unawares they would see that according to you guys nothing was ever good and everything is overrated. Sometimes things are properly rated and THE SHINING is one of those things. Another would be SQUIDBILLIES, if we're making lists here.
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The Shining rules all! by GravyAkira	Jul 4th, 2008 02:25:23 AM
Jack is the fucking man! Admit it.
Also... by GravyAkira	Jul 4th, 2008 02:29:17 AM
Wanted sucks. Somebody who loved the Matrix, Fight Club, and 300, got drunk, and wrote a script to a hit movie. Terrible.
THE SHINING- Best Film Evarrrr. by L. Ron Bumquist	Jul 4th, 2008 03:08:48 AM
KUBRICK- Best Director Evarrrr. Too any haters- Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha. I pity you.
That was fucking AMAZING! by BenBraddock	Jul 4th, 2008 03:09:00 AM
Brilliant ad, just packed full of details (dog-man, REDRUM,), all I can say is WOW! Want to see it in hi-res!!
Where's Wendy! by BenBraddock	Jul 4th, 2008 03:19:44 AM
I can't see her!
that is so SO good by hoisin	Jul 4th, 2008 03:26:14 AM
Channel 4 hire some awesome creatives.
Kubrick is one of the few giants of cinema by zapano	Jul 4th, 2008 03:34:56 AM
He exponentially changed the medium of film through his own movies and through the influence he beared onto other film makers.
It's a novel feeling these days... by DC Films	Jul 4th, 2008 03:35:24 AM
...to be glad to live in England. And even stranger to look forward to something on Ch4 - the home of trash exploitation. However, Kubrick really is the bench mark if you have any interest in filmmaking, so i'm glad to be here for once! Still, i'd prefer a decent film industry.
Wendy is at the very beginning by Alfred_Packer	Jul 4th, 2008 03:52:16 AM
Shot from the back, getting made up. Tan courdory apron.
Alfred_Packer by BenBraddock	Jul 4th, 2008 04:00:29 AM
Ah yeah, thanks! Well spotted. I thought that was a beard but it was her hair on her face. Blink and you'll miss her. Man, I want to download this one in Glorious Quicktime.
I worship the novel.. by Alfred_Packer	Jul 4th, 2008 04:03:20 AM
Second favorite King novel (The Stand is #1). I love the Kubrick version, and as I get a little older, the horror aspects of his film are actually working for me a lot more than when I was younger and only saw it for the "Boo!" scares. I like the Steven Webber TV version for a few reasons, notably that they focus more heavly on the alcholism, and we actually get the Jacky-Thing chasing Danny down the hallway with a roque mallet. Parts of the TV movie really blow chunks though.
Philip Stone rocks by Alfred_Packer	Jul 4th, 2008 04:08:10 AM
Guy doesnt get enough geek lovin, this post is just to correct that.
I think the book is King's best by BenBraddock	Jul 4th, 2008 04:14:02 AM
He just wrote better back then, and The Shining was one in a record run of great novels, he was on fire for a good few years. The Dead zone, Firestarter.. instant classics. I haven't read The Shining in a long time now, I want to reread it but am almost afraid to, in case it disappoints.. but I think it will still hold up. I love Kubricks version, but it just that, a version, his version. Whole chunks and sub-plots have been jettisoned but I think the end result works pretty well anyway. The TV version was horrendous, i seem to remember, a blig letdown.
Fuck Channel 4 / Film 4 by masteryoda007	Jul 4th, 2008 04:45:23 AM
Those cunts never sent me out my ticket allocation for the outdoors Hellboy II premiere at Somerset House in London. They said "sorry but there has been a problem with your tickets" Aye right fuck off Channel 4.
Are we all in agreement that Eyes Wide Shut sucked? by Iowa Snot Client	Jul 4th, 2008 05:02:17 AM
I saw it just once on DVD and thought so, but after reading others' impressions it's possible I just didn't "get it." Though that usually ends up being a case of what the director meant to be on screen not quite matching what actually ended up on screen.
No, we are not in by comedian_x	Jul 4th, 2008 06:11:58 AM
agreement that EYES WIDE SHUT sucked. Is EYES WIDE SHUT Kubrick's best? Not by a long shot, but it is still good. The fight-while-high scene with Cruise and Kidman is some of their best acting. It is so real that it felt like Kubrick trapped them in a room for 12 hours until he got a actual couple fight out of them.
Eyes Wide Shut is a great film by zapano	Jul 4th, 2008 06:39:58 AM
It's basically a series of anxiety dreams. Tom Cruise, after becoming aware that his wife had sexual desires for someone other than himself, goes off on a journey of sexual conquest. However, for a variety of reasons, he fails to seal the deal with any of the women he encounters. All throughout the film his identity is being questioned as is the nature of reality around him. Its basically an exploration of the realtionships between men and women, reality, dreams and idenity.
Yeah, I'll have to rewatch that one by Iowa Snot Client	Jul 4th, 2008 06:48:26 AM
It's only the Tom Cruise factor that's keeping it out of the Netflix queue for now. Perhaps it was the hype at the time that left me disappointed. Has anyone seen Choses Secrètes? It's not great, but it would make for a good mansion orgy double feature.
They actually put a lot of effort into that one. by Knuckleduster	Jul 4th, 2008 07:37:51 AM
Nice one, Channel 4. Not even Kubrick's worst effort could ever possibly "suck", and Eyes Wide Shut is far from his worst.
Nice explanation Xyzzy by BenBraddock	Jul 4th, 2008 08:24:04 AM
I too hated those scenes,they felt extremely cheesey and out of keeping with Kubrick's usual stuff. I'll buy your theory! But I wonder what Kubricks thinking really was? Guess we'll never know
Tonight I'm gonna party like it's 1999 by Iowa Snot Client	Jul 4th, 2008 09:23:58 AM
and rewatch EWS on Netflix (in glorious stream-o-vision)! Nude Nicole Kidman is never a bad thing.
http://www.rense.com/general7/al chemkubrick.htm by REDD	Jul 4th, 2008 11:17:47 AM

i dont want to hurt you by ValMcKee	Jul 4th, 2008 11:32:02 AM
i just want to bash your brains in -- base'em right the fuck in
nice by blonde redhead	Jul 4th, 2008 12:05:06 PM
channel 4 is a class act, plus they used an amon tobin song, and alucardavsdraculas' comment wins this thread.
Not The Shining by 2LeggedFreak	Jul 4th, 2008 12:31:29 PM
If the film hadn't been called the Shining then I probably wouldn't have been as disappointed in it as I was. Just went in expecting a decent adaption of the King story which I didn't get and the lack of the "Shining" in the film and Hallorans death were just annoying as hell. Always found Kubricks films a bit cold and intellectual for my liking anyway. 2001 feels more like a documentary to me than an emotionally stimulating story. Spartacus is special though.
Kubrick = Greatest Director Of All Times, One True God of Film by LaserPants	Jul 4th, 2008 01:10:51 PM
Fact. Nobody else (aside from, perhaps, Kurosawa) even comes close. Fall down on thine knees and worship King Kubrick, The One True God of film.
EYES WIDE SHUT= Kubrick's most misunderstood, underrated by la_sith	Jul 4th, 2008 01:26:39 PM
I'm confident that the respect for it will grow over time. I think it's already gained more respect since its initial release. People expected a Caligula-like sex romp or something, which Kubrick was incapable of making. I saw it three times in the theater.
kwisatzhaderach by Darkocity	Jul 4th, 2008 01:38:29 PM
Hell yeah! Others to i guess. Was Cassavettes American. How about Smauel Fuller? Anyway, much Kubrick love..or..or...i like Stanley Kubrick.
Samuel Fuller arghhh by Darkocity	Jul 4th, 2008 01:42:46 PM

BARRY LYNDON Is Great by LaserPants	Jul 4th, 2008 02:02:16 PM
And one of the greatest things about it is that he shot the whole thing using natural light! Like, evening scenes are lit by candles. It's amazing.
I saw dreamcatchers... by emeraldboy	Jul 4th, 2008 03:27:03 PM
and it is one of the worst I have ever seen. After that film I will never buy another William Goldman book. I dont care how angry he is about hollywood or the state of writing in it is. The idea of the shit aliens is one of the worst ideas I have ever seen. that film though it tries to look great. Aliens, the miliatary, snow storm and morgan freeman sound great on paper. but that movie stinks. it blows. its utter crap. Lost borrows heavily from Langoliers.
Kubrick=self-indulgence by thegreatwhatzit	Jul 4th, 2008 03:34:31 PM
Yeah, he made some good movies, the best in b&w (THE KILLING, PATHS OF GLORY, DR. STRANGELOVE). But he subsequently ground out some of the most expensive home movies ever made (THE SHINING, EYES WIDE SHUT, etc.). But someone hears the generic "genius" accolade and it turns infectious. "BARRY LYNDON is a masterpiece because...because...because... gimme a second...oh yeah, because it was illuminated with natural candlelight. Yeah, that's the ticket." And "THE SHINING was great because...um...Jeffery Lyons thought it was cool." And don't worry, there's no defense for a self-indulgent wallow like EYES WIDE SHUT: Tom Cruise would have been more at home with SPARTACUS and the whole nocturnal odyssey was 200% improved upon, generations ago, by passionate directors like Jacques Tourneur (on a fraction of the budget). But film neophytes--who have never examined Welles--adhere to trend by echoing "he was great" sans analysis. Have to abandon this talkback...IQ is dropping. I have no doubt that if some "authority" or "scholar" would define ABBOTT AND COSTELLO IN THE FOREIGN LEGION as an "existenial exercise in paranoid fantasy", the fawners would jump on the bandwagon. Rest easy, Mr. Kubrick--for every detractor, like myself, you have a real intellect like "alucardvs..." (above) to defend you.
Interesting story about barry lydon... by emeraldboy	Jul 4th, 2008 03:37:23 PM
IT was the first and only film to be shot outside Kubrick beloved UK. In Ireland. It was only after that Kubrick developed his fear of flying. For reasons to this day that have never fully been explained The movie has never been shown in ireland. The movie was completed in ireland. It was never given a cinema release. and there was no premiere in Ireland. There was one in London. Kubrick never spoke about the film. I have heard that he was he and the crew of the movie, were run out of town by IRA. The security people told kubrick that to complete the film and get out. Which is what happened. He never left borehamwood again.
Well, I'll be pig fucked! by darth_hideous	Jul 4th, 2008 04:41:18 PM
Looks great!
Kubrick was great, but Eyes Wide Shut by chromedome	Jul 4th, 2008 05:19:55 PM
was pretentious, gimmicky crap.
Barry Lyndon is Incredible by rhcp2sweet	Jul 4th, 2008 07:32:58 PM
My love for this film goes beyond the fact that it was lit by natural light, but how the film is a 3 hour epic dark comedy. It doesn't hurt that the film is a visual spectacle, but the story is told well and the pistol duel at the end with Barry's step son is perfectly paced. The first time I saw it I was merely ok with it, but go back and watch it again, it's brilliant.
I have a soft spot for The Killing and Paths of glory by SpencerTrilby	Jul 4th, 2008 08:57:13 PM
just sayin'
Wait a minute, KurtLockwood by SpencerTrilby	Jul 4th, 2008 09:09:44 PM
you mean... there's a Tango&Cash Special Edition out there? And no one warned me?
My Thoughts by Bramton1	Jul 4th, 2008 11:07:47 PM
Gilkuliehe, great post. The Shining rocked so much more than the TV version. I remember when Harry had the Shining animation on the top of the page of the tricycle, riding through the hallways. I'd watch for 10-15 minutes and it would just continue riding through the hallways. Nothing would happen. Then, one day, the "girls" appeared. Scared the shit out of me, and now because Harry was the girls (although that was pretty disturbing).
Well it's nice to see some Barry Lyndon love on here by L. Ron Bumquist	Jul 5th, 2008 05:00:15 AM
Eyes Wide Shut gets better with repeated viewing. It's possible to hate the actors and love the film. Kubrick really had to squeeze the performances out of them by the sound of it, but who better than a smug 'perfect' couple to play a smug 'perfect' couple.
Even bad Kubrick is great by m_prevette	Jul 5th, 2008 07:11:01 AM
The Shining is a comedy, not a horror movie. Kubrick stated he had no interest in ghosts or horror and it shows. The comedy scenes work very very well, Nicholson playing it wildly over the top. As soon as they get settled into the hotel BOOM - he's gone nuts - it's all a sly joke from Stanley and it works . Technically it's brilliant, a marvel to watch, just stunning set design, camerwork - gorgeous. Eyes Wide Shut is uneven but damn it has a great downward spiral feel, Cruise at the orgy is a terrific set piece...it's not 100% successful but is a great ride.
it's official by Kloipy	Jul 5th, 2008 07:52:02 AM
Most Talkbackers apparently hate every single movie ever made. How can you hate The Shining? Someone said that Kubrick didn't know how to show horror? Are you that dense. I guess you are really scared by Saw 57 and the latest Jap-horror remake. I think I may puke
thegreattwattzit by quantize	Jul 5th, 2008 09:03:56 AM
as in pimple, on a twat...ya got more hot air than taste..now that's a fact
and worse by quantize	Jul 5th, 2008 09:05:25 AM
you're a blind pimple..the worst kind
thegreatwhatzit by Colonel_Blimp	Jul 5th, 2008 11:04:22 AM
namedropping is the last refuge of the pretentious. And calling Kubrick self indulgent is to me just a showcase of film illiteracy. I'm not saying you are, just saying that's how you appear by saying things like that. There's not a superfluous second in Barry Lyndon - it is tight as clockwork, and in addition one of the most aesthetic films ever made. You really should rewatch Kubrick, maybe you'll notice how every little detail (plot, acting, music, cinematography, editing, art direction...I could go on...) adds up to a whole, all the time underscoring the central themes. Although they are long and occasionally slowly paced, there's no excess flab on Kubrick's films. Self indulgent my ass.
Guy Who Got A Headache And Accidentally Saves The World by batzilla	Jul 6th, 2008 09:52:35 AM
That was the greatest thing I have ever read on a talkback. EVER! Seriously. Made me laugh out loud.
Beaks, do you always speak for the dead? by Bronx Cheer	Jul 6th, 2008 01:42:32 PM
How can you know whether Kubrick would appreciate someone doing what Ch 4 has done? I think it's a ridiculous stunt. And "The Shining" is a flawed film that is not cohesive.
The Shining was a strange film. by sundancekeed	Jul 7th, 2008 09:23:09 AM
You could see Kubrick's genius on display in multiple scenes. From the very beginning with the tracking of the VW Bug seemingly straining to get through the immensity of the Rockies to the Overlook, to that freaky ass Butler who liked to "correct" his family, to the I Am The Walrus dude giving head and looking at YOU. And of course, Jack Nicholson's performance, which was so good, he's been giving the same one in about 2/3 of his movies since. However, I hated how horribly wrong the rest of the cast was. Shelly Duvall was completely AWFUL as Wendy. Seeing Olyve Oyl as what was described by Stephen King in the book as a blonde haired, attractive woman took me right out of the movie. I didn't believe Scatman Crothers as Hallorran. Too old, too feeble. The kid who played Danny sucked. And little things that Kubrick screwed around with, like changing the room numbers that events happened in didn't make any sense. Killing Hallorran really upset the fans of the book. The stupid maze. Kubrick got a lot right with the film but he got just as much wrong.

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