What was it that Dalek Caan said about the 'threefold man'? Could we be looking at a multiple-Doctor finale?

Awesome!

Real cheap shot if RTD goes down this route, methinks...

Billie Piper has ALWAYS looked like Bingo from The Banana Splits.

Except with bigger teeth.

I don't get it. This American-exported trend of replacing your perfectly lovely characterful teeth with those horrible huge white plastic joke-shop teeth. I'm quite haapy with my British dangly brown teeth, thank you very much.

And if next week does feature multiple Doctors as some of you are suggesting then I'll be even more impressed by the BBC's security.

but Billie's TEETH however, what the fuck.

I live in dread that next week's 65 minute episode will be a let-down full of cop-out solutions and a drawn-out pace caused by a hastily-scheduled extra week of filming. Especially after this week was brilliant precisely because it was unrelenting.

My hypothesis is that both press releases are, technically, correct. That is, "4 specials" includes the 2009 Christmas special. But Tennant will only be in the first 3 specials.

When the Doc regenerated into Tennant he lost his hand soon after, but he had enough residual energy to grow a new one. Now what if, and I know this sounds mental, but what if the Doctor regenerates into someone completely new at the start of next week but some of that residual energy leaks across to the jar and 'grows' another David Tennant Doctor from his hand.

I have to say that I and a total RTD basher and have lambasted his episodes repeately, well maily because they're awful.

Outstanding! Knock out job! Plot as normal makes no sense but to combine so many different cast and feel like they have all had a crack of the whip and to throw old Harriet in there as well. Perfect set up yes we've had Daleks invading before yes the Doctor giving up made no sense. yes the big circles in space reminded me of Space Pirates

But OMG What is going on with the ending??
Have we all been lied to?? Is David Tennant a poker face liar of amazing proportions or are we going to witness and pretty lame reset button by way of the indigo device and Captain Jack's time watch thingy??

Please no reset please no reset plesseeee

Oh and BTW I WAS SO F'ING RIGHT ABOUT THE BEES!!!!

On the subject of our crazy theories, who was the talkbacker last week, or the week before, who was absolutely certain that Harriet Jones (former MP for FlyDalek North) would be the Red Dalek?

A couple of theories. I reckon the Master is the real big bad behind Davros and the Daleks! The Doctor mentions that somebody has moved Earth before, a long time ago. he could be referring to the Daleks in the Dalek Invasion of Earth...or he could mean the Time Lords in Trial of a Timelord!

Harriet Jones seems to be very good at finding all the Doctor's companions and getting them to summon him don't you think? How did that happen? Oh sure, it's alien tech invented by the Mr Copper foundation, but how is it that she is able to develop it exactly? And wasn't that a familiar sound of drums playing as she hijacked the Dalek's signal? And then we didn't see her actually getb shot did we? And hey! Who's hand was that picking up the Master's ring in the 'ming the merciless' scene from the end of last year's finale?

Curiouser and curiouser!

I hope so, that would be very well done. I know I was gob-smacked when it happened.

Of course in the confidential DT did say he had was on set with Davros, which he wasn't in tonight's episode, so I suspect it's a false regen.

try watching a few episodes of the current series before you call it "crappy, low budget."

Although if it was him, and RTD has somehow convinced him to come back for a Two Doctors story, then that'd be every flavour of mint.

So who's he gonna be? Dammit, they shocked me with this one, but if they were gonna do it, this was the most emotionally perfect moment to do it. Kudos to RTD for a well-played hand. Kudos to David for not giving it away at any point, and lying so damn well.

bring on the next week.

And altenatively if next week opens with somekind of back track on the whole regeneration then it is going to be the biggest dissapointment ever and will not only spoil the final episode but would actually ruin the episode I just watched.

Since RTD is Throwing in the kitchen sink with this story, what hasn't happened? who haven't we seen? what's left in the cupboards? 1. The Timelords. If the time war is truly time locked, but dalek khan could get in.. (and become BSG's hybrid in the process) can the time lords get out? 2. K9. Sarah jane is in trouble.. could the disco robot dog show up to save her? just in the nick of time? 3. Mickey? Rose works for torchwood you say? Mickey fought cybermen, and it's the end of the word, and where is he? i bet he's on the way..with his own BFG 4. which incarnations of the doctor were in the time war? what is this THREEFOLD man that the hybrid (sorry, there i go again...) DALEK KHAN is going on about? we have seen Davison already in the last year- could there be another time crash? 5. The Master... seems a bit, well, of a weird one.. 6. The shadow proclamation, they are all ready to go to war, and then,NOTHING..hmmm...7.River Song is a Timelord is Donna Noble (my wildest speculation but i am sticking with it till next week embarasses me!) 8. Bad Wolf. There needs to be some kind of resolution to that story since they just opened that box again. As you can see, i actually have NO IDEA WHAT WILL HAPPEN AND THUS DECLARE THIS GREATEST CLIFFHANGER OF ALL TIME. (it's going to be a bloody reset button isn't it.)

Until then, random thoughts:

I always talk about how hot Naoko Mori was on Torchwood but damn, Eve Myles tonight...sweet Jesus. I think I'm finally willing to set aside the gap in her front teeth and focus on the two large Welsh rabbits she's hiding under her shirt. British people, I demand to know: Has she been naked in anything?

Speaking of teeth, I must need to go back and watch some older Rose episodes because I really don't see why people are making such a fuss about Billie Piper. I do think her face is a little gaunt but otherwise she's still perfectly fine. When she smiled at the Doctor near the end it was such a fantastic moment.

Somewhere in this talkback I again saw mention of Jennifer Saunders playing the Doctor in one of the specials. WTF? They can't actually be planning that can they? The first time I read it was last week, I thought it was just a riff since Joanna Lumley played the Master in that Children In Need sketch. Come to think of it, Saffy was in that too, wasn't she? Are they going for the trifecta?

Where's Jenny? Big finale blowout and you're not going to have the Doctor's daughter come sweeping in? Maybe next week.

What was that bit about the Time War being in a time lock? And Martha has an odd key? Nah... Did I mention Eve Myles's breasts already?

Finally, to the people who write in every Saturday: Some of you, and I pray you know who you are, need to realize that a "review" is not the same as a "report." You can "review" an episode of Doctor Who *without*, and I'll repeat that, *WITHOUT* listing in order, in detail, every single thing you just saw on the screen. If this keeps up one day people are going to start emailing Herc outright transcripts.

Maybe it's simply a case of being the middle of a trilogy episode with no real beginning or end, but this episode really was weak.

Despite the raving reviews here, there was no real shock or drama. NO ONE believes that The Doctor's really regenerating, since Tennant's coming back and Davros is really no more dramatic than he was in the past. Even when he opens his shirt to show that he'd flayed himself to the bone to make new Daleks, my only thought was "Yeah... so? His FACE is 100 times more gross, and I've been seeing that since I was a kid in the 70s!"

I simply didn't care about any of these characters, even though I SHOULD and have in the past. It's simply the result of bad writing and pacing on RTD's part, coupled with bad SFX and surprisingly bad acting from people who should know better.

I'm certainly not on the edge of my seat for next week's episode, and that's a shame. RTD brought back Dr. Who from oblivion and deserves credit for that. However, his swan song story only confirms in my mind that half of the time, he really doesn't know where he wants to go with his ideas and if he does, isn't able to convey them in a satisfying manner to the viewing audience.

I honestly can't say I'll miss his presence in future seasons. :(

Can you justify the crappy 'review' that you submit? Please?

Oh, and fanboys - it's Dalek Caan, not Khan. Sorry for being pedantic...

Second, since everyone has already jumped on the Donna/Master/Rani possibility, multiple Doctors popping up, and maybe even Jenny joining the mix, here's one thing I noticed that could be a big ol' red herring, but... At the Shadow Proclamation, the Doctor discovers one of the missing worlds is Callufrax Minor.

Calufrax was the planet that got pulped during the course of "The Pirate Planet" segment of "The Key to Time" saga. It turned out Calufrax wasn't a real planet but a disguised piece of the Key. It was noted that because of this, the Captain's plan to use Calufrax as a part of a weapon against Queen Nursie would fail because it wasn't "natural."

So if this Callufrax Minor is the same the Key Calufrax, does that mean the Daleks are facing a similar "spanner to the works" deal?

After the Key to Time story wrapped up, the segments of the key were supposed to be redistributed around the universe. It seems highly unlikely the White Guardian would return the Calufrax segment to its previous form. The addition of the "Minor" suggested a companion planet or moon, but nobody ever referred to a Calufrax Major during "Pirate Planet."

Still...Martha's got that Key that Jack seems very worried about and that Harriet (who went out rocking, btw) was interested in. Given the amount of chaos the Daleks have caused by literally ripping planets from the sky and lumping them into their crucible, could the Key to Time be the only thing to return balance to the universe?

This is the woman who was there at the birth of the Daleks and knows full well what they're capable of. When she began weeping and holding onto her son saying "I'm sorry... you're so young", I felt a lump in my throat.

Good television that was.

Ace: Likely dead, as it has been implied that the 7th Doctor enrolled her in the Academy on Gallifrey, so she could become a Time Lady or Time Agent.

Mel: Last we saw she was exploring the universe with Sabalom Glitz, likely forcing him to drink carrot juice.

Peri: Consort to King Yrcanos of the Krontep.

Leela: Likely dead, as she decided to remain on Gallifrey.

Romana: Dead. She was a Time Lady.

Tegan: Not coming back. Left because she was sick of seeing so much death.

Adric: Dead. Crashed into Earth and killed the dinosaurs.

Kamelion: Destroyed.

Nyssa: Diseased, remained on Terminus.

K9: Which one? :)

Harry: On Earth, in his 60s, at least.

Jo Grant: Last seen exploring the Amazon with her fiance.

Liz Shaw: On Earth. Probably retired.

Mike Yates: Nobody cares.

The Brigadier: Apparently on vacation, but still active.

Zoe: Time Lords returned her to her own time stream.

Victoria: Last seen on Earth, but not very useful in a fight.

Jamie: Memory erased. Returned to 1700s.

Ben & Polly: On Earth, likely dead, or elderly.

Dorothea: Returned to London 1966. Likely dead or elderly.

Katarina: Dead.

Steven: On Planet of the Savages.

Vicki: Remained in ancient Troy.

Ian & Barbara: Returned to 1960s Earth. Probably dead by now.

Susan: Left with David Campbell. Likely dead. Turlough: On Sarn. Not coming back.

Few of these companions could return. Ace is possible, but only if the stories about her being a freelance Time Agent are true. If she ever became a Time Lady, she died with the rest of them. If neither happened, then her whereabouts are unknown. (We don't know what's canon at this point; The show was canceled.)

Peri would be no help. She was hardly one of the Doctor's most clever companions, and the last time she knew him, he was in his Sixth regeneration, which was very nasty to her most of the time.

Mel won't be back. Besides the fact that nobody liked her, there's the fact that she was probably stranded on some backwater world by Glitz after she annoyed him too much.

Those feature films were all pretty messed-up, though.

It reminded me of the River Song two-parter, when she punched him: I couldn't recall ever seeing The Doctor punched before. It's rare he ever gets his ass kicked. The Doctor, it seems, would be powerless against a martial arts planet.

Speaking of new villains, it seems high time for the introduction of a new major nemesis for The Doctor. I like that the new series has given major respect for the tradition of the show--more so than any other restart ever has--but how about something new? A major something new? A villain or an alien race with the intelligence and malevolence to truly match The Doctor in new and unexpected ways. This would be refreshing. I mean, I love me some Daleks--but it's ALWAYS the Daleks. And if it's not the Daleks, it's the Cybermen. So how about some new baddies that are not a one-off?

As far as the Donna speculation is concerned, I don't think she's a concealed Time Lord turned human, simply because she has a family. Something else is going on with her. Maybe something is growing in her, as the stairs sequence seemed much more like a heartbeat than drums to me.

But that big ass ring...

I'm also expecting the hand to regen into Tennant, perhaps a single hearted, human Doctor who will go and live happily ever after with Rose in the alternate dimension and the other two-hearted Tennant can continue on as a Time Lord in this dimension knowing that Rose is happy and with him, in a way. It seems weird but there it is. "Three-fold man" suggests three Tennants, not three Time Lords. So I expect to see three Tennants next episode: one will die, one will go off with Rose, and the third will continue on in this reality.

Was anyone else a bit fed up of the Whoniverse gabble crammed in there though? It's a bit weak from a screenwriting perspective just to go "WE could use... Project INDIGO!" "No! Not Project Indigo!" "Then we need... the Osterhagen Key!" "NO! Not the Osterhagen KEY!" etc etc ad nauseam. Just throwing in cool-sounding code words for concepts not even hinted at is a bit amateur: if you're going to use, say, a screwdriver to save the day, at some point previously you must see that screwdriver so you know the hero has it - even if the fact it's gonna be useful is completely hidden. The whole Project Indigo and Osterhagen Key thing was a bit last minute. And then the whole meaningless Time War Whospeak came up: we've had the Master fleeing the fall of Arcadia, we've had the destruction of the Medusa Cascade (which we now know is a galaxy or solar system) and now supposedly Davros was seen "flying into the mouth of the Nightmare Child... I tried to save you!". Lines like that just sound cheesy. It's all a bit late '80s 200AD... or is that just me?

It was alright, fun if you didn't think too much about it, ruined by the inclusion of Torchwood, and falls apart under the slightest bit of intelligent analysis - which is EXACTLY what I expect from RTD, the man who made new Who LOOK great, but has no clue how to write a coherent, intelligent narrative. Bad Wolf still makes no sense whatsoever...

I hope there isn't a dirty great reset button or a fake regen to ruin next week's show. But we know there will be, won't there? *sigh*

What about Adam? He has a hole in his head about the same place Davros does, hmmm...

So I think the brown suit/blue suit thing is a bit far-fetched.

I think they should get Nicola Bryant as Peri in there to become the Doctor's newest long-term nemesis. Either her or Sophie Aldred/Ace. Think about it: Wouldn't the best arch-enemy for the doctor be a companion who traveled with him, learned everything he could teach them, and then was abandoned by the Doctor at some point?

Picture an angry Ace screaming at the Doctor over a telescreen: "You LEFT me! You ABANDONED me! I HATE you, Professor! And now you will die!"

The Doctor wouldn't say he's the only Time Lord left if he knew Romana were tucked into Exo-Space. It's a good bet she was there when Gallifrey burned.

If, as seems to be the speculation, the Doctor's regeneration is going to unleash three versions of him or even previous versions of him, then I'll feel quite cheated. I think regenerations should mean something in Doctor Who. They always have. Watching The Doctor change from one person to the next has always been frightning but exciting. It's the most epic event in "Doctor Who". To have that moment squandered will be awful in my eyes and when Tennant really does regenerate at the end of his reign, it won't feel as special in my eyes.

But then, Sylvester McCoy was my introduction to "Doctor Who" and so I guess Ace holds a special place in my heart. I still remember stories such as "The Curse Of Fenric" in high regard.

McCoy's Doctor was actually a shrewd bastard with a very dark edge to him which is why I liked him. Plus he had Ace at his side. You can't go wrong with Ace at your side. Bring her back! I never saw Sarah Jane Smith's adventures with the Doctor but I sure do remember Ace's.

Peri was interesting, but once the Sixth Doctor came around, Peri spent most of her time being bullied and belittled by the Doctor. It's no wonder she left him to marry King Yrcanos. At least Yrcanos praised her beauty and intelligence and spirit!

I think we can ALL agree, however, that nobody's looking forward to the return of Mel.

WORST COMPANION EVER.

And that is being fair.

Richard Dawkins' cameo then becomes a little in-joke since he's married to Romana actress Lala Ward. Oot!

Doctor's most faithful companion, however...hmph, would have to be K-9, no? :-)

So... Donna/Rani/Master/Romana
Callufrax Minor/Key to Time
Bubbling Doctor Hand
Osterhagen Key
Darkness coming/Void bleeding in
Failed regeneration

Can any of you longtime Doctor Who fans suggest some of the older series or stories for me to watch? I'll be watching (the apparently non-canon) "Daleks Invasion Earth 2150" later tonight.

I will say, however, that that big honking ring she was sporting is new. It was not on her hand in "Left Turn". I suppose it could be she just puts on jewelry as she feels like it, but still it seems fishy.

I'm hoping for the best, but I do have a feeling there's a lot of deus ex machina to come before it's all said and done. The Osterhagen Key will be used (whatever it does).

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Could be the Daleks and Davros are exploiting the Void (where a whole bunch of pepperpots got stashed after the events of "Doomsday") to collapse the DW multiverse into a single reality where the Daleks reign supreme. Certainly would feed Davros' god complex.

The promo for next week does see Dav doing a nihilistic rant. If total destruction is his goal, why are the Daleks taking humans? Can't be for processing into Daleks since Davros made it clear that these world-stealing dustbins were "pure" creatures crafted from his own Kaled flesh. Which BTW, ick!

I don't recall Donna ever sporting red nail polish during the series...but it is a woman's wont to paint her nails or not...or pick up a strange ring lying next to a funeral pyre. ;-)

Jack can't die so I don't know what he was thinking, though I suppose if a Dalek shot him he might be vaporized...but that's not what happened last time a Dalek shot him.

1) If this ep was a wine, it'd be described as "rambunctious". Not a bad thing, but not great either unless you're into big messes.

2) The cliffhanger is not as good as TNG's Best Of Both Worlds, and still nothing is.

3) Donna is not wearing The Master's ring and she was not hearing a Sound-Of-Drums heart beat. If anything the Subwave signal sounds like the Sound-Of-Drums beat, but probably just a geeky coincidence.

4) If they reset everything in the next ep it'll be too much like the reset used at the end of season 3, and we've already seen that story so I'm leaning more toward that next episode will involve multiple universes, probably multiple doctors, and possibly the ultimate resolution of the Time War (let's do the Time War again - hehe, that's funny). Perhaps it will see the return of the Time Lords (hey, if a Dalek can enter a time locked event, why can't Time Lords leave it?)...

No, think about it a second. Internationally recognized actor. A totally different direction from the past actor and production team. He's worked with Moffat before. And think of the hours of fun arguing over whether that would make 'Curse of Fatal Death' canon or not!

There are problems, big ones, with it. Anyone that says otherwise is lying.

I've got 2 theories. One- this regeneration is going to solve the running out of regen's problem- It's going to fail and they'll use davros' cloning technology on the hand- voila, Tennant's back and they've a ready made justification for another 13 regenerations. Or (and I hope this isn't the case) RTD's going to run to form and hit a big fat Osterhagen reset button.

BTW- Torchwood sucks, and Captain Jack's studmuffin story about meeting a soldier in a bar was cringeworthy,

Best bit- no problem: Davros. I thought he was outstanding and I loved poor old Dalek Caan giggling like a loon behind him.

I thought Dalek Caan just got funnier and funnier. "I danced in the light of the darkness..." just hilarious. Totally ruined the tension, of course, but bloody good entertainment value. And Davros gets back to his hysterical ranting self next week! They had me thinking he'd gone soft this time round, but no, old Dav is back next week - and he's madder than ever...

And Barrowman... just getting worse and worse as an actor. Gwen did all the heavy lifting in the acting stakes for the Torchwood team.

glad to see RTD learned something from the SW prequels anyway: Davros is coming into his own, in the same way Ian McDiarmid made the Emperor much more rounded as a character in ROTS. Can't wait to see what Dav has planned for next week.

I have a list, beginning with the dream picks they could never get:

Simon Pegg: would be amazing, has already worked on the show, is a huge fan and total geek, would seriously have to think about it if the role was offered to him. On the down side he's a big Hollywood ACTOR now, in the new Star Trek, would not be able to commit the time and even then, if by some miracle he did decide to do it, would proably only be on for the one season.

Eddie Izzard: would bring a formidable verbal arsenal to the role. Dunno if he's worked with any of these peeps before or even if he'd have any interest, already attached to an ongoing show ("The Riches") though for how much longer is anyone's guess.

Hugh Laurie: would be fantastic. Enough said. Also big time American TV star--much bigger than Izzard--would never leave his "House" and the big bucks he gets to live in it.

So. Those are the top three. Now how about some more realistic candidates:

Richard E. Grant: Available. Has done Who related work before. Talented and versitile. Presumably needs work.

James Nesbitt: Moffit favorite. Rumored ot have been offered the role already and turned it down because he did not want to follow DT.

Jennifer Saunders: Rumors flying about her taking on the role. Would sort of make sense since this is the most radical departure from DT you can get. Is talented and funny. This is the horse I would bet on for #11.

Rowen Atkinson: Don't see it happening. When has Atkinson ever demonstrated the ability for dramatic acting?

Martin Freeman: A sleeper choice. Perhaps too much in the DT mold.

Some wild cards and dark horses:

Kevin McKidd: from "Rome" and "Journeyman". Fine actor. Would be darker and more action orientated--would Moffet go for it if he could get him? Dunno.

Mackenzie Crook: Gareth from UK's "The Office". Oddball, funny, bizarre. Would be a bold choice. (and before anyone says it, yes I considered Ricky Gervais. No. Would not work in a million years. However...)

Stephen Merchant: tallest Doctor ever? Most certainly. How bizarre a casting choice would that be? And yet, and yet--I could see it working! No clue why. But this horse is so dark it may as well not even exist.

Mitchell & Webb: Yes, two Doctors at the same time! Hey, it could happen. Okay, this one is a goof, but how I'd love to see the "Peep Show" boys running the TARDIS. Heh.

I'm certain there are more. This is a fun game.

And Gwen is fucking minging. Why do people fancy here. She's got worse teeth than Billie and you've all been nowt but rude about her all TB.

ah. Just me then.

Jarv, re Gwen - she has a certain something, it's just that those teeth don't half get in the way. You could definitely pilot a badly-CG'd TARDIS or two through the gap! Oh, and Barrowman's come-on to Sarah-Jane? Show some fucking respect, Barrowman!

I call Ade Edmondson for the 11th. He can do dramatic (he's surprisingly good in DOCTORS, or is it HOLBY CITY?), and certainly can chew scenery. Who's with me?

Saunders is an interesting idea, though.

After watching confidential, they were showing clips from Doomsday. I hadn't noticed just how much the SFX have improved even since a couple of seasons ago. Those Daleks looked espcially crap.

So who would be the ultimate never-going-to-happen dream choice to play Doctor Who? Personally I'd love to see an unhingned Johnny Depp take on the role. Maybe they could do another non-canon cinematic Dalek movie.....

On the other hand, the crossover stuff sucked up too much screen time. I had high hopes for Torchwood, but it really just fell apart. When we see Torchwood early on in Who, they're a top-secret organization with almost unlimited resources and incredible technology. On the actual show, they're just a few guys running around chasing dumb aliens in a cheap SUV and hiding in a small underground office. There's no sense of scale; there's no sense of the resources or incredible technology. And true to form, when Jack mentions that he knows what Project Indigo is...here's the chance to reinforce how good Torchwood is. But does Jack know about the project because Torchwood just knows so much? Of course not. Instead, he got the info from a guy in a bar. Please.

And I see people defending the Sarah Jane Adventures, but I find the show intolerable. Like so many shows aimed at children, it's full of dumb cliches and ridiculous stories. Sonic *lipstick*? What is this, the 1950s? Oh and since it's a show for kids, naturally we need some kid protagonist, because clearly children could never love a show starring adults. Gahhhhh.

Finally...RTD, as mentioned in last week's talkback, usually starts these 2-parters rather well, but every finale has (so far) ended up with a reset button, Deus ex Machina, or both. I don't see how he fixes all of this without one or the other at a minimum. Hey, if he manages to do it, great, but he's got no track record for it.

When he started regenerating I was shouting at the TV, I am not kidding, I hope something goes wrong with the regeneration I really do.

However

The rumours that were going about a while ago...along with some plot details and the fact that they would never be able to hide soemoen new as the Doctor...got me thinking.

If this is not how it plays out then I should be fucking writing Doctor who, although I will be in prison for smashing RTD's head right in.

They are in a time hole or something, outside normal time, also there were rumours of old Doctors coming back in this finale?

What if instead of regenerating properly, it causes 1 or more of the old Doctors to appear together while in this place?

3 Doctors versus the Daleks?

3 groups of freedom fighters, Marth and Unit, Torchwood and SJ, and DT with Rose and Donna...Hmmm

Has anyone heard anything to indicate this is DT's last hurrah as the Doc, because until next week I am going to be panicking that this was how he punked out, shot at long range by a Dalek, he should at least have been killed by Davros if thats how he goes out?

Oh and yes SJ should ahve stayed at home with her stupid kidie computer and Torchwood should have been annihalated by the Daleks, Gwen and Iainto we should have saw burning alive as they screamed, and Jack should have been blasted by a disintigrator that he could not come back from, I hate those clowns.

Skull out

Tennant isn't done. By all accounts the regeneration will go all FUBAR (something to do with the hand) and we'll end up with two David Tennant Doctors for a short time. Plus, DT has been seen filming the Christmas special. Plus, he recently said in an interview that he'd like to do the 5th series in 2010.

well, the intonation per my previous post stands, tennant lifts the shittier and shittier scripts, but he's just head above water.

IMO the episode "Dalek" set the Daleks up as more effective and fearsome than they've been in decades. The Evolution/Manhattan stuff may have dimmed that somewhat, but even so.

"What's a type of noble? A Lord. What does Donna mean in Italian? Lady. Lord, lady. Time Lady?"

Add to that, Noble also means inert. Add in the "I'm a temp" and the latin root (tempus) meaning "of time" references that have been more and more pronounced, and honestly it will be a big big surprise if she turns out NOT to be a time lord/lady ooooh, extra theory . Donna got to the tardis originally by being attracted by the HUON particles, that were both in her and in the tardis.. Maybe that's how (if indeed she was to) gets into the Time locked time war.? We did see her having another drink of water, that's how she got full of 'em in the first place...

The draw between Donna and The Doctor, which was repeatedly hinted at, and the deliberate comments at the start of this season where she made it clear she didn't 'fancy him' one bit. It's because SHE'S HIS DAUGHTER.

Donna is a Time Lady. "Noble" = Lords & Ladies. "Donna" = Lady.

It also, furthermore, confirms the fact that Martha was only ever a stop-gap that RTD didn't fecking want.

Fuck. Me.

Donna does through me, perhaps all those ancient particles changed her, but I can't believe it would make her into a timelord. My bet is on the beetle.

Lost Jarv: no, how could it be K-9? He left the Doctor once to stay with Leela, and again to stay with Romana. Call that faithful? Cos I don't. :)

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