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by Series7
Jun 27th, 2008
12:58:29 PM
hope there are more cars flipped then whats shown in the trailers.
He has not made a bad film yet
by Series7
Jun 27th, 2008
12:59:31 PM
I guess this guy never saw Insomnia?
awesome
by cyrent
Jun 27th, 2008
01:00:01 PM
.
kickass
by Speed Fricassee
Jun 27th, 2008
01:00:23 PM
early again
Uh oh.
by strosmer
Jun 27th, 2008
01:01:07 PM
Time to get off AICN for the next month. Still have not read any reviews. Must...not...spoil.
And here... we... go!
by Nordling
Jun 27th, 2008
01:03:20 PM
Sorry. Had to do it.
it breaks through the glass ceiling of your wildest dreams!
by chrth
Jun 27th, 2008
01:03:24 PM
excuse me I need to wipe the vomit off my desk
Hmmmm
by Series7
Jun 27th, 2008
01:04:21 PM
Heath Bar gonna get a Supporting Oscar post death nod? I mean he pretty much was the James Dean of our time. Kind of died in a similar fashion, cars were all the fad in those days, drugs are all the fad these days.

I really want this movie to be good, shit every talkbacker may as well be called Dark Knight Fan #1. I don't know what TB'ers are going to go after this movie comes out? Because every time a movie came out someone didn't want to see, or there mom wouldn't give them $7.50 to see a movie ($10 if you live in NY or Cali) they would always chant I'll wait for Dark Knight. Well what will people be waiting for next?

too excited
by ciroslive
Jun 27th, 2008
01:05:13 PM
I almost don't want to see TDK because I'm afraid it won't live up to the awesomeness it projects in the trailers. Plus I was burned bad by Spiderman 3 for movies wasting my favorite villains. But this one sounds great. I'll be in line at Star Cinema, Madison, WI for the midnight IMAX premiere...
It's great to see that comic book movies no longer exist to sell
by Series7
Jun 27th, 2008
01:05:31 PM
Doesn't stop them from flooding the market with them though either.
The Second Review....
by spideyman1218
Jun 27th, 2008
01:07:49 PM
Is the worst thing ever posted on this site.
"The GODFATHER 2 of comic book films"?
by SpyGuy
Jun 27th, 2008
01:09:17 PM
So what was THE GODFATHER of comic book films then? SPIDER-MAN 2?
be careful, spoilers in the first review
by WhoDis
Jun 27th, 2008
01:09:17 PM
the others, not so much
Well, my dicks hard!
by Rat Fink
Jun 27th, 2008
01:10:00 PM
This movie is gonna kick so much ass. It will easily knock Spiderman 2 from the top of my fav list.
OH Man
by erichaislar
Jun 27th, 2008
01:10:32 PM
I can not wait!
I just want to throw this out there...
by fassbinder79
Jun 27th, 2008
01:11:13 PM
Anyone who doesn't like Heat or calls it a bad film is an idiot. And LA Confidential was one of the best films of the 90's. So, if Dark Knight is even close to the caliber of those films it will not only be the comic book film of the decade but it might even be up there with the greatest pics of all time. I've got my IMAX tickets for midnight opening day. I'm stoked. Thank you God for Christopher Nolan.
SPOILER WARNING: Bruce Wayne is Batman
by SpyGuy
Jun 27th, 2008
01:11:17 PM
Now THERE'S a spoiler for you...
FUCK, that first review
by Charlie Murphy
Jun 27th, 2008
01:11:41 PM
SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER seems to confirm that a certain someone dies at the end. Can somebody please please please please tell me if we see a corpse, or if the characters just think that that character is dead?
My wildest dreams do not have glass ceilings...
by tonagan
Jun 27th, 2008
01:12:53 PM
Mirrored ceilings in a bedroom, perhaps, but that's it.
The curse of multiple villains...
by Kid Z
Jun 27th, 2008
01:13:42 PM
...Looks like Nolan's overcome the curse, but I hope he keeps the villain-count down in the next installment... if the suits at Warner's will let him, that is.
Rachel dies, pushing Harvey toward Two-face
by David Cloverfield
Jun 27th, 2008
01:15:02 PM
Around the end of the second act. Just a guess. This movie isn't rocket science.
Oh, Happy Day!
by Mr. Nice Gaius
Jun 27th, 2008
01:15:55 PM
Damn. Three weeks is too much.

Nordling - you took the words right out of my mouth.

HEAT is the shit!
by erichaislar
Jun 27th, 2008
01:16:18 PM
Why all the hate?
I think it comes out on the 25th here in the UK
by pokadoo
Jun 27th, 2008
01:18:44 PM
Which is shit! >:(
HOLY SHIT :
by PTSDPete
Jun 27th, 2008
01:20:19 PM
I've got nothing else to say.
HEAT SUCKS???
by One Nation Under Zod
Jun 27th, 2008
01:21:26 PM
Suck my dick. Heat is a fantastic film.
I consider myself hardened against hype...
by scudd
Jun 27th, 2008
01:21:33 PM
..but I am extremely excited for this movie. Remember that feeling you'd get as a kid? No, not when your daddy touched you, but when you knew you were going to Disneyworld in a couple of weeks? That's how I feel right now, only now I have a much bigger dong.
Knives Don't Make Noise When They're Handled
by Prague23
Jun 27th, 2008
01:21:56 PM
Or taken out of cloth enclosures, or thrown from hand to hand, or anything resembling the sound Wolverine makes when his claws are extracted. Big pet peeve of mine.
Bravo to Nolan
by Silverglade
Jun 27th, 2008
01:24:28 PM
The man is setting the example. Getting my IMAX tickets on the 3rd. I am happier than a pig in shit.
Spoiler Warning: Bale is Bruce Wayne...
by theycallmemrglass
Jun 27th, 2008
01:29:39 PM
But he aint Batman. His voice as one reviewer puts it was always too much of a grunt in Batman Begins. I let that go though, because we were witnessing a raw Batman, a beginning. Now that we are beyond that, Bale is too wrong for Batman. He may be good as Bruce Wayne but the reviewer suggests that there is much more of Batman in this film. Having got that gripe off my chest, I fucking loved Batman Begins and I cant wait to see this one, with a fucking awesome promising interpretation of the Joker. Shit, what a summer this is turning out to be. Iron Man (good fun, not as great as everyone is making it out to be though), Indiana Jones (fucking loved it. Bitches wanna complain about story and realism of the action can go fuck themselves as they havent got a fucking clue what an Indy film is about), Wall-E (98% on Rottentomatoes, I'd be damned if I end up agreeing with the 2%), Hulk, Prince Caspian, Wanted, all rating above 70% on Rottentomatoes, which makes for a fucking great summer of cinema.
I am fully prepared for this movie to rule
by Heckles
Jun 27th, 2008
01:30:58 PM
I have such high hopes. I'm going to leave expectations at the door of course. But everything I've heard and read says this could be the best comic film in years. For me, I think Spider-Man 2 and X2 are the best thus far. Iron Man is close. After seeing Spider-Man 3 and X-Men 3, I hope there is not a third Batman reboot film.
zom-bot.com
by Damage_Inc
Jun 27th, 2008
01:42:52 PM
Good call about duffer63's review. He was right. And days before the others.
Are we all in agreement that The Prestige is...
by Powers Boothe
Jun 27th, 2008
01:47:14 PM
one of 50 best films of the decade?
I'm so incredibly excited about The Dark Knight. The summer movie season is pretty much over once this film is released.
So what does this mean?
by Damage_Inc
Jun 27th, 2008
01:47:21 PM
It almost has to be Rachael who dies in the middle of the movie. Maybe that will be the equivalent of Joker crippling and raping Barbara in the Killing Joke.
The Prestige....
by Damage_Inc
Jun 27th, 2008
01:49:10 PM
was well acted and well shot, but it was just too weird and pointless.
Suit Change
by erichaislar
Jun 27th, 2008
01:49:47 PM
Most likley because from what i hear the old one was so uncomfortable to wear. Plus they like to sell scuba batman and space batman toys.
More excited then a little kid on Christmas Eve...
by WickedJester
Jun 27th, 2008
01:50:00 PM
Cannot wait for this. So now that theres tons of people that have seen it, what the fawk is Alfred's secret????
Suit Change
by WickedJester
Jun 27th, 2008
01:51:04 PM
If you were to make it 'realistic', I doubt the first suit would be Batman's last -- wouldn't he always be trying to make it better?
wickedjester [spoiler]
by Mostholy
Jun 27th, 2008
01:51:26 PM
Presumably, it's the aforementioned letter.
Alfred's secret????
by Damage_Inc
Jun 27th, 2008
01:51:47 PM
I think it's the note that Rachael gave him, from what I gather from all the spoilers so far.
Mostholy/Damage_Inc
by WickedJester
Jun 27th, 2008
01:53:07 PM
Thanks, I was thinking that after reading the first review.. not much of a secret though unless he's never told.. until she's already de--- nevermind.
Secret
by erichaislar
Jun 27th, 2008
01:53:13 PM
Have you people not noticed Rachel is Preggo in the trailers? I bet it's bruces baby. Joker kills his love and child. Man it really is going to be a dark knight.
so i'm guessing theirs a riddler nod in this
by seabiscuits
Jun 27th, 2008
01:53:42 PM
?
by seabiscuits
Jun 27th, 2008
01:53:56 PM
Heat sucks? Not a fan of Batman Begins?
by grungies
Jun 27th, 2008
01:54:31 PM
Well, I know to ignore that one.
seabiscuits (w/ possible spoiler)
by WickedJester
Jun 27th, 2008
01:55:31 PM
I remember reading that someone draws a big '?' on a picture of Batman or Wayne.. that might be the thin slimey employee... I guess that's Nolan's thing, end each movie with the calling card of the next villian.
*** RACHEL DAWES DIES ***
by Da B-Meister
Jun 27th, 2008
01:59:10 PM
It's not really even that much of a spoiler, but Rachel's death only contributes to the fracture in the relationship of Bruce and Harvey.
It's a JERRY MAGUIRE reference, not BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN
by abcdefz7
Jun 27th, 2008
01:59:39 PM
Just sayin'.
abcdefz7
by WickedJester
Jun 27th, 2008
02:03:36 PM
Let me guess, 'SHOW ME THE MONEY!?'
I dont get it, does TWO-FACE DIE?!!!
by Mike_D
Jun 27th, 2008
02:13:44 PM
the first reviewer seemed to imply that.
erichaislar
by Damage_Inc
Jun 27th, 2008
02:15:08 PM
What trailer are you talking about with a pregnant RD? If that's true, that would make sense with Alfred's big secret, that it could be Bruce's kid. Worse if she does actually die.
The movie: BIG TIME SPOILERS
by Charlie Murphy
Jun 27th, 2008
02:16:41 PM
Okay, I haven't seen the movie yet, but I've read all the reviews, and seen all the footage and I have an idea of what we can expect when July 17 rolls around. SPOILERS LIKELY FOLLOW........ I swear to God, skip this if you don't want to know............ The movie begins with Gotham in not much better shape than before Batman showed up. A bunch of gangs have picked up where Falcone left off. Batman is still taking them down, but the Joker shows up and brings all the gangs together to kill Batman. Meanwhile, even though Gotham is a little wary of accepting Batman as their saviour, Harvey Dent has been gathering support. He wins the election and change looks to be coming. Bruce Wayne wonders if Gotham needs a Batman; if he can live happily ever after with Rachel. He doesn't know that Rachel is in love with, and plans to marry, Harvey Dent. Dent, Gordon and Batman are trying to take down all the gangs. At some point, the Joker kills Rachel Dawes which affects both Bruce and Harvey deeply. It sounds like the Joker kidnaps both Harvey and Rachel and gives Batman the option that he can save one of them. They are in different buildings. Batman chooses Rachel, and Gordon goes after Harvey, but the Joker has switched addresses, so when Batman thinks he's going after Rachel, he's really going for Harvey. Rachel blows up, and Harvey gets scarred, becoming Two-Face. Two-Face goes on a rampage killing all these mob guys, and evetually kidnaps Gordon's family (He blames Gordon for Rachel's death) and there's a fight between Batman and Two-Face that ends with Two-Face falling to his death.(It is unclear whether or not everyone assumes Harvey is dead, or if he 100% gone). Everyone is worried that the public learning of Harvey's crime spree would undo all the good he did, so Batman takes the blame for all the mob killings. He's left on the run at the end of the movie. Joker is captured, but alive. I read somewhere that the movie ends with Gordon explaining to his son that Batman is Gotham's protector, its Dark Knight... roll credits. END SPOILERS. Now, only some of this is confirmed information, but from the various reviewers all giving a rough outline of the movie, this is the most coherent one i can put together.
Jessica Biel as the new Catwoman!
by Boomers_Lips
Jun 27th, 2008
02:17:19 PM
she's a hottie!
This TB is going to get out of hand
by Hawaiian Organ Donor
Jun 27th, 2008
02:19:20 PM
As soon as all the haters get home.

What kind of person doesn't like Heat? Probably the same type of person who kicks a bag a squirrels down the street.

Charlie Murphy
by Damage_Inc
Jun 27th, 2008
02:20:17 PM
That does sound pretty good from the spoilers we have gotten so far. Bravo.
Uma Thurman as Poison Ivy!
by Boomers_Lips
Jun 27th, 2008
02:20:33 PM
again!
Going to be hard for haters..
by WickedJester
Jun 27th, 2008
02:21:10 PM
To find a review to hang their hat on. I have a feeling this is going to be a big movie that critics will eat up...
Did you just rag on Heat?
by Larry of Arabia
Jun 27th, 2008
02:21:57 PM
Boy, I'm glad the other reviews are so good. Ragging on what's almost universally regarded as one of the best crime dramas ever kinda makes you seem like a fool. I mean, if you had said why you don't like it I could understand this, but dang, man. You must be gunning for talkback hate.
you got that right Hawaiian
by just pillow talk
Jun 27th, 2008
02:22:09 PM
I

can't

wait

for

this!

Rachel Dawes
by HoboCode
Jun 27th, 2008
02:22:31 PM
Couldn't they just write her out of this film in the first place if they are just going to kill her off in this one. Just for CONTINUITY's sake they could have easily replaced the character with some other broad. It's irksome.
Gus
by just pillow talk
Jun 27th, 2008
02:23:05 PM
Riiiiiight...
And where is I am Batman?
by Mr. Nice Gaius
Jun 27th, 2008
02:23:12 PM
He's at home...washing his tights!

HA HA HA HA HA!!!

Looks like the hater bus got in early.
by WickedJester
Jun 27th, 2008
02:23:16 PM
I REALLY HOPE
by lb
Jun 27th, 2008
02:23:24 PM
THIS LIVES UP TO THE HYPE!!! Please God let this be good, everyone hyped up Batman Begins and I left underwhelmed
Hobo..
by WickedJester
Jun 27th, 2008
02:25:04 PM
But then they would be introducing another 'broad' just to set up the tension/situation between Wayne and Dent.
Paging 70s venom
by matalo
Jun 27th, 2008
02:26:37 PM
You are needed in talkback 37263. Let us continue our discussion here since this one is spoilerific
Keep 'em coming Gus...
by just pillow talk
Jun 27th, 2008
02:26:38 PM
Ghostrider > Iron Man
Does anyone know....
by Damage_Inc
Jun 27th, 2008
02:27:46 PM
How much 2-Face will be in this movie? At first I thought he would only be seen briefly at the end of the movie, but now it seems that he will actually be around for awhile.
Oh Gus
by WickedJester
Jun 27th, 2008
02:28:01 PM
You are too Fun Knee.
I am Batman - "The Eeyore of AICN"
by just pillow talk
Jun 27th, 2008
02:28:14 PM
You know I need to see that in every Batman thread now MNG...
Damage_Inc - Trailer 2
by erichaislar
Jun 27th, 2008
02:28:27 PM
When the joker is entering the room there is a far shot of Rachael she has a belly plus I remember seeing a picture of her in a maroon dress with a belly in it somewhere. It's just a guess i could be wrong.
I, for one, will be disappointed
by matalo
Jun 27th, 2008
02:28:43 PM
If there is not a scene involving an art museum and a huge jukebox wailing with 80's awesomeness aka Prince.
RE: "This TB is going to get out of hand"
by Mr. Nice Gaius
Jun 27th, 2008
02:30:02 PM
Oh, there is definitely a good chance it's going to 'splode. Because AICN's cast of BB/TDK Haters are as predictable as the sun.

So, grab your clipboards, boys! And get prepared to check off those hater talking points!

erichaislar
by WickedJester
Jun 27th, 2008
02:30:33 PM
I think that's a big stretch. Something like that would be out by now. I don't see Nolan going all flamboyant aka Singer.
My only complaint
by matalo
Jun 27th, 2008
02:31:49 PM
and again, not seeing the movie yet, but my only complaint is the necessity of the Hong Kong scene. What is the purpose of this other than to catch a baddie? As I posted on another forum, I feel it is not needed and fluff.
JPT
by Mr. Nice Gaius
Jun 27th, 2008
02:31:59 PM
Roger that!
WickedJester
by erichaislar
Jun 27th, 2008
02:32:04 PM
You could be right. But look at trailer 2 she looks big. and Maggie is a skinny chick.
erichaislar
by Damage_Inc
Jun 27th, 2008
02:32:09 PM
Give us a link to what you are talking about. I have a feeling you are right.
Gus...
by WickedJester
Jun 27th, 2008
02:32:29 PM
What part about the reviews make you think that? The 'best comic movie ever' part or maybe the 'better than I imagined' part. Perhaps it's just the fact that you are a Debbie Downer.
An Alamo Drafthouse show
by Silverglade
Jun 27th, 2008
02:32:34 PM
What should happen:

The theater staff are all wearing those bank robber clown masks. Random other employees are made up in he Joker paint. Even the fats kids, big red painted mouths and black eyes, bumping chests while holding pencils. Then show the Joker-ized trailer. Then the film. "Then everyone just loses their minds!" /jokervoice

"spread that on toast and eat it Fanboy's"
by just pillow talk
Jun 27th, 2008
02:33:28 PM
I can't believe you wrote that.
WickedJester
by HoboCode
Jun 27th, 2008
02:34:03 PM
So what? you couls introduce a new woman in two minutes. It's not like Harvy Dent was in the BB.
erichaislar
by WickedJester
Jun 27th, 2008
02:35:50 PM
I can't watch the trailer now or I would try to comment, can't find a pic of her that would help. I just think one of the reviews or spoilers would've mentioned that. Unless that is the secret, but I think that would be way out of left field.
Damage_Inc
by erichaislar
Jun 27th, 2008
02:35:58 PM
http://www.apple.com/trailers/ wb/thedarkknight/trailer2/
Damage_Inc
by erichaislar
Jun 27th, 2008
02:36:48 PM
Right after the joker enters the party. Look at Maggie in the Far Shot.
Gus..
by WickedJester
Jun 27th, 2008
02:37:03 PM
You too man. Hope the movie makes you happy, eventually.
Top Ten has been cracked
by matalo
Jun 27th, 2008
02:37:34 PM
That museum scene in Burton's Batman
by Hawaiian Organ Donor
Jun 27th, 2008
02:37:58 PM
Has aged as well as month old headcheese. I tried to watch that movie right before Batman Begins came out and skipped whole chapters.
WickedJester
by erichaislar
Jun 27th, 2008
02:38:20 PM
You could be right. I remember hearing this rumor somewhere and the seeing evidence of it. I am just throwing it out there. Oh well we will find out in 3 weeks.
gus van rant
by dingus khan
Jun 27th, 2008
02:38:51 PM
that is the second time i've read your ang lee---> ang ry joke. and, i'm not proud to say, both times...i have laughed.
It's finally here.
by O_Goncho
Jun 27th, 2008
02:39:00 PM
Feels like we've been waiting even longer for this film than the long arsed wait we HAVE waited... so it's finally time to put my fingers in/over my ears/eyes and try to hear as little about it as possible until I'm sat in front of an IMAX screen with a shit eating grin on my face.
Maggie is FRIGGIN FUGLY - KILL HER OFF
by Da B-Meister
Jun 27th, 2008
02:40:24 PM
She's ugly, flat-chested and can't really act worth a crap. Hopefully her "rachel dawes" will be killed in this movie.
no gus...
by just pillow talk
Jun 27th, 2008
02:41:34 PM
between Beyond Thunderdome and Men at Work.
Riddler/Hush are there.
by sonofsound
Jun 27th, 2008
02:43:43 PM
The best Riddler story from the last five years has been Hush, in which Wayne's secret identity was compromised. So if we're not getting some Hush action here, it's prolly a setup for what's to come. Nolin cherry-picks the best Bat stories as it is.
Maggie flat chested, B-Meister?
by HoboCode
Jun 27th, 2008
02:46:48 PM
Have you seen Sherrybaby? They're not GIANT SILICONE MONSTROSITIES that you have no doubt been brainwashed into liking since birth, but she has cute tits.
So Matalo..you think a scene you haven't seen yet
by Teh Suk
Jun 27th, 2008
02:47:23 PM
isn't needed and is fluff...you are a shit that's been dipped, dip-shit.
Gus
by WickedJester
Jun 27th, 2008
02:47:51 PM
I'm ashamed to tell you I have both of those on DVD. Assuming you mean Norm McDonald's Dirty Work...Haha
no can read
by Project424
Jun 27th, 2008
02:50:30 PM
because I haven't seen a highly anticipated film spoiler-free since Die Hard: With A Vengeance...
Batman 89 is Nipples on Optimus Prime
by Teh Suk
Jun 27th, 2008
02:51:45 PM
Batman 89 is painfuly awful to watch since Batman Begins came out. Shit, Batman Begins is even better watched on FX with commercial interruptions than that rotoscoped horror of a Batman movie, Batman 89.
I mean, seriously
by Teh Suk
Jun 27th, 2008
02:53:06 PM
Batman 89 had ANIMATION in it...it just sucked....it had scenes and JUST scenes...Batman Begins is a better WHOLE movie.
Batman 89 had fucking ROBERT WUHL
by Teh Suk
Jun 27th, 2008
02:53:56 PM
I mean, fuck, Arli$...what a shitty movie Batman 89 is.

by Teh Suk
Jun 27th, 2008
02:54:25 PM
"HEAT" sucks?
by Holeman
Jun 27th, 2008
02:55:04 PM
Fuck you, you tasteless bastard.
Batman '89...everyone had brass wire rim glasses
by Teh Suk
Jun 27th, 2008
02:55:10 PM
Shit I haven't seen a movie so dated since "Heartbeeps"
Teh Suk
by Charlie Murphy
Jun 27th, 2008
02:56:20 PM
I think you're right. I haven't watched Batman 89 since BB came out... not that I don't enjoy it, I do... but it just doesn't hold up. I think Michael Keaton is good, and Nicholson does okay even though I feel the praise for him is a bit overdone. He pretty much plays himself in the movie. I think B89 has pretty good atmosphere but there's too many wrongs in there to be overlooked. (not that BB doesn't have it's own flaws-- i watched it again yesterday for the first time since 2006, and I had problems with it)
Batman 89 - could Bruce Wayne look like he was shitting
by Teh Suk
Jun 27th, 2008
02:56:33 PM
with every look more in this movie?
Anthony Michael Hall
by HoboCode
Jun 27th, 2008
02:56:40 PM
Is he actually in this movie and who does he play?
B89 Animation? Where at Teh Suk?
by WickedJester
Jun 27th, 2008
02:56:51 PM
woah, my reply is to your first post, Teh Suk
by Charlie Murphy
Jun 27th, 2008
02:57:29 PM
I don't hate B89 like you seem to.
Hobo
by WickedJester
Jun 27th, 2008
02:57:55 PM
Investigative Reporter ala Robert Wuhl in B89.
Batman 89 had WEAK ass DATED PRINCE SONGS
by Teh Suk
Jun 27th, 2008
02:58:47 PM
I love Prince but, he is just a man.
HoboCode
by Charlie Murphy
Jun 27th, 2008
02:59:10 PM
AMH plays a tv reporter name Mike Engel who receives information from a Wayne Enterprises employee about Batman's secret identity. From reviews, it sounds like AMH isn't in the movie that much though.
best Batman is the 66 version
by erichaislar
Jun 27th, 2008
02:59:14 PM
Suck on that! I mean a device that sucks water out of your body and leaves you in the from of pixie sticks? How is that not the greatest batman movie ever!
The animation comes when Joker falls from roof...
by Teh Suk
Jun 27th, 2008
02:59:45 PM
Watch it... ALSO there are some rotoscoped batman parts.
Batman 66 rules more than Batman 89 that's for sure
by Teh Suk
Jun 27th, 2008
03:00:49 PM
To Wong Foo, Julie Newmar, Thanks for everything! Said Catwoman.
Teh Suk
by WickedJester
Jun 27th, 2008
03:01:06 PM
Never noticed that before, I may have to check that out. I knew it was a terrible looking scene, but did not know it went Pee Wee's Playhouse on us...
There are GOOD THINGS in Batman 89
by Teh Suk
Jun 27th, 2008
03:03:05 PM
But mostly it's camp crap from someone who didn't appreciate the comics.
Batman 66
by erichaislar
Jun 27th, 2008
03:04:06 PM
Also how could we forget Miss Kitka! she was Purrrr-fect!
I hoonestly have never been more mezmorized by a comic...
by Teh Suk
Jun 27th, 2008
03:05:14 PM
than when I read the whole, "The Long Halloween"...it was like watching a great movie.
2 Things I hated about B89..
by WickedJester
Jun 27th, 2008
03:05:20 PM
The big black guy that really has the end fight with Batman. Who the hell was that guy? And the Joker's (deep breath) number one (deep breath) guuuuuy, Bob. Who the hell was that guy?
AMH
by HoboCode
Jun 27th, 2008
03:06:35 PM
But I heard he's actually a villain, right. Like Egghead or something.
Batman 89 is VISUAL not Visionary.
by Teh Suk
Jun 27th, 2008
03:06:47 PM
Batman Begins is not cliche just as Batman 89 was not cliche. Methinks you don't know what "cliche" means, young turd.
Hobocode
by WickedJester
Jun 27th, 2008
03:08:44 PM
There was speculation he was the Riddler, which is bull. Other people were saying he was Azrael (I think anyway).
Nice, zombot.com - Pretty cool viewpoint
by Teh Suk
Jun 27th, 2008
03:10:04 PM
Shia as Robin.
by HoboCode
Jun 27th, 2008
03:10:25 PM
I will immolate myself if that happens.
I like that zom-bot.
by WickedJester
Jun 27th, 2008
03:10:43 PM
Not that you needed my approval, but it's an interesting way of putting it.
No Robin EVER,
by Teh Suk
Jun 27th, 2008
03:12:08 PM
Howsabout that. Shia's too old anyway.
I want EggHead!!
by HoboCode
Jun 27th, 2008
03:12:13 PM
Come on. You know it's EGGactly what this franchise needs!
I actually see Batman 89 and Batman Begins
by Teh Suk
Jun 27th, 2008
03:14:12 PM
As comic books by two different sets of writers and artists. Like Batman Begins is by Denny O'Niel and Neal Adams and Batman 89 is by the cats who do "The Batman" on the WB.
No Robin. Nolan has said that himself.
by WickedJester
Jun 27th, 2008
03:14:45 PM
Then again, Smallville creator's said no flights no tights...
Agent Johnson
by WickedJester
Jun 27th, 2008
03:16:22 PM
What formula was that, per say? Just curious.
Mr. freeze.
by HoboCode
Jun 27th, 2008
03:17:29 PM
Can you guys imagine what Nolan could do with this character? Man that would rule. Na. Let's just do Ma Parker instead.
That's why I said Batman 89 WASN'T Cliche
by Teh Suk
Jun 27th, 2008
03:17:51 PM
Because it was different from all the superhero movie before it. But it wasn't visionary. It would have been visionary if Tim Burton made all that shit up and Batman and the Joker were invented by him. THAT would have been visionary. So, daughter, think before you pop off. I was agreeing with you for the most part.
If they ever do use Robin
by erichaislar
Jun 27th, 2008
03:18:46 PM
He needs to be a kid like a 10 or 12 year old, Please no 25 year old Robin. Then the real challange comes from how do you get a kid in Nolan's universe to fight crime realistically is a big problem?
IESB has 12 clips
by Oski
Jun 27th, 2008
03:19:10 PM
http://tinyurl.com/4e5mon
And for Chris sake Batman 89 and Batman Returns > ALL THE OTHER
by Teh Suk
Jun 27th, 2008
03:19:46 PM
flicks...can get a amen, a what!!
Meant to say SCHUMAKER BATMAN FLICKS
by Teh Suk
Jun 27th, 2008
03:20:09 PM
SCHUMAKER BATMAN FLICKS = Made in a 12 x 12 soundstage
by Teh Suk
Jun 27th, 2008
03:20:58 PM
where they just let a fag eat neon paint, than barf it up.
Batman '89 is Wonderful but that doesn't mean
by That 70s Venom
Jun 27th, 2008
03:21:42 PM
that we can't also enjoy TDK. Maybe both movies will be remembered as being excellent.
Louie the Lilac and Queen of Diamonds for BB3
by FlyingToupee
Jun 27th, 2008
03:21:54 PM
They can get Phyliss Diller for a darker take on Marcia.
A "Robin" wouldn't work in Nolan's Universe
by Teh Suk
Jun 27th, 2008
03:21:59 PM
Thank Jeebus
Teh Suk
by DennisMM
Jun 27th, 2008
03:23:11 PM
B89 was, in its time, a deeply flawed but very enjoyable movie. It still has some appeal, though "Batman Returns" is more interesting if frequently incoherent. Nicholson plays himself on acid, which for most of the movie is lots of fun. And at least he was The Joker, not some Crow wannabe pretending to be The Joker. No permanent clown look = no Joker. I don't care how wide his grin looks.
DennisMM Don't address me personally
by Teh Suk
Jun 27th, 2008
03:25:55 PM
You are an idiot who I wouldn't talk to if you were the only geek left on the planet. Nolans take is realistic. Permanent clown look = not realistic. So suck it.
Benditlikelucas, try the veal
by Teh Suk
Jun 27th, 2008
03:26:45 PM
I'll be here all afternoon.
Teh Suk
by DennisMM
Jun 27th, 2008
03:27:34 PM
I'd sooner suck it than be you, pal, you homophobic waste of time. Nolan's take is about as realistic as Grant Morrison's.
Crow wannabe
by HoboCode
Jun 27th, 2008
03:28:03 PM
That was actually pretty funny. Gave me a chuckle. I disagree with you on the necessary permanance of the clown makeup though.
"The fucking leads are weak? Your weak."
by Mr. Nice Gaius
Jun 27th, 2008
03:29:03 PM
Uh, that's from GLENGARRY, GLEN ROSS. You call yourself a fan, you son of a bitch?
I'm not homophobic. I like fags.
by Teh Suk
Jun 27th, 2008
03:30:15 PM
Fags, queens, queers, lesbians, dykes, faeries, sissy, nancy, whatever, I like em. Just because I said it looks like a Fag threw up neon paint is a LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO ONG way from being homohobic, so pipe down there, tightbritches.
One More Thing and I'm Out ...
by DennisMM
Jun 27th, 2008
03:30:20 PM
of this typically adolescent crap. Teh Suk: Next time one of YOUR essays is cited and discussed in American Film magazine, feel free to get back to me with your expertise on comics as they relate to film
How is it not realistic generic tb hater #493049039?
by WickedJester
Jun 27th, 2008
03:30:36 PM
clown makeup
by Damage_Inc
Jun 27th, 2008
03:30:47 PM
There are plenty of versions of the Joker where he painted his face instead of getting a white bleach from an acid tank.
Batman on the big screen
by j2talk
Jun 27th, 2008
03:30:58 PM
I'll see The Dark Night and i'll no doubt enjoy it, just like I have enjoyed all the batman movies on the big screen..Yes I said ALL of them...some where solid hits and some left a lot to be desired, but none of them left me dissapointed I got as much out of each as i expected-seriously did anybody have high hopes for Batman Forever or Batman & Robin???? more camp than action films, but fun none the less
HOLY FUCK 12 CILPS?!!!!!?
by Charlie Murphy
Jun 27th, 2008
03:31:22 PM
i usually dislike iesb, but that is awesome. i'll report back once i've watched 'em.
How about some fucking spoiler alerts?
by Trazadone
Jun 27th, 2008
03:31:39 PM
I hate amature movie reviews, they just end up being scene by scene descriptions rather than analysis. Yes, we get it, you saw a movie before us, don't prove it by describing every scene, tell us whether it was any good or not. Sigh.
One more thing..
by WickedJester
Jun 27th, 2008
03:32:07 PM
What the fuck is American Film magazine? Exactly...
If the reboots are killing you
by Teh Suk
Jun 27th, 2008
03:32:08 PM
why aren't you dead yet? (shhh is it because you are a drama queen?)
Gus Van Rant
by Mr. Nice Gaius
Jun 27th, 2008
03:34:24 PM
ScriptGirl. Yeah, where is that little minx?
He's not out...he loves my replies
by Teh Suk
Jun 27th, 2008
03:34:26 PM
because someone finally paid attention to him. Now go rub one out while thinking of me.
Nipples on Batmen are like Gus Van Rant
by Teh Suk
Jun 27th, 2008
03:35:31 PM
Totally and utterly fucking useless.
Agent MyJohnson - Thanks for recognizing
by Teh Suk
Jun 27th, 2008
03:36:22 PM
Trollop.
Agent Johnson
by WickedJester
Jun 27th, 2008
03:36:29 PM
Obviously Batman isn't 'realistic,' but Nolan's work is perceived as being the 'What if Batman was real..' movie. You can nit-pick anything to death that's fiction. 'There's no way a house would survive a tornado, let alone be picked up completely and tossed to another land.' Where's the fun in that? I'll go back to my original assertions that people that think like that are just Debbie Downers, misery loves company indeed.
batman 89 rocked
by j2talk
Jun 27th, 2008
03:37:08 PM
sorry but without 89's Batman we wouldnt be seeing any of the current round of comic book films.. Damn i can remember back to '89 when i worked as movie theater manager and got an early look at the trailer-which I quickly spliced to to every movie in the theater-just to see the reaction to the opening shot of the flames coming out the batmobile - damn that was cool....and the way people started to get excited about seeing the movie...Keaton-no way!! Nicholson- too cool....ah the good old days when a movie could still suprise you.....
WickedJester with the Oz ref FTW!
by Teh Suk
Jun 27th, 2008
03:37:48 PM
GOAL!
j2talk noone said that Batman 89 was horrible or non important
by Teh Suk
Jun 27th, 2008
03:38:37 PM
so relax duder.
Sounds great to me, buuuttt...
by BizarroJerry
Jun 27th, 2008
03:39:13 PM
So, apparently Two-Face is a major character even after his transformation? It looks like we've yet again Venomed ourselves. Fans, based on no real information, think that this OTHER villain will just barely appear and set up the next film. Well, at least we're no getting Two-Face that Tommy Lee Jones played. Ya know, written exactly like the Joker except for a coin and a little less laughing.
I'd rather see Nolan tackle your mom.
by Teh Suk
Jun 27th, 2008
03:39:21 PM
She's like "The Fridge"
Agent Johnson and 70s
by matalo
Jun 27th, 2008
03:39:28 PM
I am glad I am not the only old fucker here.

I think it is becoming cool to bash Burton's Batman. I will not say it was perfect, but it is a lot better than the kids these days make it out to be.

That being said, BB was 2/3 greatness and I fully expect TDK to be the best of the three. (No I am not forgetting Returns or the "other" "Batman" movies" though I would like to)

Coin and less laughing
by Teh Suk
Jun 27th, 2008
03:40:24 PM
BARELY less...TLJ wanted to BE Jack Nicholson. That was HORRIBLE!!!
This just in....
by matalo
Jun 27th, 2008
03:41:17 PM
Teh Suk is attempting to troll everyone who posts. What a shock!
Agent Johnson
by WickedJester
Jun 27th, 2008
03:43:26 PM
Gotcha. Then I can agree, if a read a plot summary (like the info button on your TV) saying 'Nolan's realistic take on the Batman comics' I'd be pissed as well.
How come the Whops aren't complaining?
by I Dunno
Jun 27th, 2008
03:43:48 PM
all the crime bosses are Italian, I thought the guinies would be whining by now.
Chechen Boss: Dey vont work, for a freak....
by Oski
Jun 27th, 2008
03:44:29 PM
Joker: (imitating) FREEEAKuh. Why don't we cut you up into little pieces and feed ya to your pooches, hmm? Then we'll see how loyal a hungry dog really is.
I still like Burton's Batman
by WickedJester
Jun 27th, 2008
03:44:57 PM
I think ripping on it is being the proverbial Monday Morning Quarterback. Face it, without B89 and Superman:The Movie, we would not have any of these movies...
Oscar for Heath
by pipergates
Jun 27th, 2008
03:45:39 PM
a must
The suspense is killing me
by matalo
Jun 27th, 2008
03:46:44 PM
Brunomac, please finish your thought
Brunomac, did you feel the same in 89?
by WickedJester
Jun 27th, 2008
03:48:15 PM
Or did you jump on the bandwagon going the other way then?
Teh Suk
by matalo
Jun 27th, 2008
03:49:43 PM
RE: Coin and less laughing Here is where you and I agree. AS much as I like TLJ, he made a comic book character into a cartoon! Or did he? Was it he or Schumacher?
Heat was shit?
by I Dunno
Jun 27th, 2008
03:50:28 PM
Fuck off, first reviewer. Heat was awesome.
just watched some IESB clips
by Silverglade
Jun 27th, 2008
03:54:10 PM
Just a brief clip and Maggie already makes Katie's performance look like she thought she was on 90210. Finally a chic who can act off Bale and stand her own.
Burton's Batman
by Damage_Inc
Jun 27th, 2008
03:56:02 PM
Nobody has to be ashamed that they can appreciate B89 for what it is. Especially those of us who were a certain age at that certain time. No, it doesn't hold up today, but most 80's action movies don't either.
Those 12 clips are pretty awesome
by Charlie Murphy
Jun 27th, 2008
03:57:13 PM
pretty much every scene from the trailers extended by twenty seconds. Joker is in clips 8 and 12, for those interested. In clip 4 you can kinda tell that oldman is hiding his accent.
BR -"more as a twisted comic fairy tale"
by Damage_Inc
Jun 27th, 2008
03:58:29 PM
That's a really good way to put it.
Batman 89
by MJAYACE
Jun 27th, 2008
03:58:51 PM
And Batman Returns, were great in their own way. Its just a very different interpretation. BB and TDK seem to be more for the 14 year old kid in 89 that is grown up now. Oh and breather "Bob" (somebody asked about that), wasn't that dorky Malek from Conan the Destroyer?
WARNING!
by IForgotAbout19
Jun 27th, 2008
03:59:21 PM
THIS ARTICLE CONTAINS "POILE"
I'd rather see them film the comic....
by j2talk
Jun 27th, 2008
04:01:26 PM
as i said before ALL the Batman films have had good and bad points, I'd just dont know why they wont just film the damn comics...or at least get the comic writers to write the script.... take Batman: Year One or The Killing Joke film them and ....
breather "Bob"
by Damage_Inc
Jun 27th, 2008
04:02:16 PM
He was also one of the Swill brothers from the short lived Adventures of Brisco County Jr. starring Bruce Campbell. Most people probably won't even know what I'm talking about.
Agent Johnson
by Slaphappy Slim
Jun 27th, 2008
04:05:16 PM
Anyone who calls someone else "son" should should be embarassed of his or her self. That said, you did call yourself an old turd. Oh, and Begins was visionary, Batman '89 was simply idiosyncratic, like every other Burton film.
Batman Returns
by Damage_Inc
Jun 27th, 2008
04:06:17 PM
It was kind of weird watching Batman go around killing people. I think it's the only time it's ever been done.
I just wanna see...
by alienindisguise
Jun 27th, 2008
04:08:35 PM
Batman and the Joker go hand to hand and in the latest trailer it looks like a bit of that in there. Their confrontations need to be up close and personal
Brunomac
by Damage_Inc
Jun 27th, 2008
04:11:17 PM
Yeah, it was pretty great. It got canceled after only one season. It may have been one of the most under rated television shows of all time. You can't get much better than Bruce Campbell as a cowboy going after the gang who killed his father.
Nolan's got respect
by a rolling stone
Jun 27th, 2008
04:13:31 PM
They've never highlighted characters on screen like Joe Chill, Carmine Falcone, Sal Maroni, or even Lucius Fox before. Not until Batman Begins. I wouldn't be surprised if we see Leslie Tompkins, Harvey Bullock, or even a young Babs Gordon. Nolan is following the medium and staying true to the mythology. As long as he continues on that vein, I know I'm going to dig it. As for making it real, I think because of the medium, it translates well. If you're watching something real, it's easier to except subject-matter grounded in reality. Catwoman, Black Mask, Maxie Zeus, Riddler, Penguin, Ventriliquist, Bane, Mad Hatter, and Hugo Strange would all fit in this universe. We've already seen Zsasz, Scarecrow, Two-Face, and modified versions of Ra's and the Joker. To sum it all up: me likey.
Agent Johnson
by flickchick85
Jun 27th, 2008
04:19:01 PM
I think Begins was visionary not because of the story elements, but because of the universe Nolan created in which those story elements were told. I personally have never seen a comic book character brought to life in such a rich, textured, and downright realistic world before. And I'm not a comics reader, so Nolan's universe was really the main appeal for me.
Brunomac
by Damage_Inc
Jun 27th, 2008
04:28:38 PM
Yeah, I've thought about that. I can't ever remember seeing reruns of it. It would be perfect for Sci-Fi.
Black Mask and Bane
by Damage_Inc
Jun 27th, 2008
04:34:41 PM
Would be awesome Nolan villains. All they would have to do is make them brutal without being a cartoon. Imagine Machine from 8MM in a Batman movie. That's what they should do with Bane.
Michelle Williams as Batgirl in the next Batman movie!
by Boomers_Lips
Jun 27th, 2008
04:40:15 PM
she's sort of attractive.
And I hate to say it but.....
by Damage_Inc
Jun 27th, 2008
04:43:01 PM
I think Mad Hatter and Ventriloquist would be interesting too, if they were done right.
KEEP YOUR FUCKING SPOILERS TO YOURSELVES
by One Nation Under Zod
Jun 27th, 2008
04:44:49 PM
you cock smoking dick gobblers.
Drudge Report
by SenatorJeffersonSmith
Jun 27th, 2008
04:49:05 PM
ran an article today about Batman and, in particular, Ledger...written by some guy from the LATimes after the screening last night...the user comments on that thread are pretty fucking funny...lots of stuff about Ledger winning Oscars for movies made 10 years from now...good stuff.
Gary DP thinks Heat sucks
by kwisatzhaderach
Jun 27th, 2008
04:52:28 PM
What a tool.
PUT SPOILERS AROUND FIRST REVIEW
by Happy Boy
Jun 27th, 2008
04:57:12 PM
not everyone wants to know what happens to Dent at the end of the movie or who dies. Heat sucks? LMFAO
Do any of these guys talk about the action scenes?
by Mosquito March
Jun 27th, 2008
05:10:10 PM
Specifically, whether you can tell what the fuck is going on, this time? I don't want to read the spoilers, but that has been a nagging question about this movie since the first one came out.
Damn You Michael Bay
by MCMLXXVI
Jun 27th, 2008
05:11:18 PM
Damn You Michael Bay
Very excited about this.
by mrfan
Jun 27th, 2008
05:14:23 PM
Just hope that there is not too much crowding of characters.
I Wrote the First Review **Spoilers**
by MasterBateman
Jun 27th, 2008
05:14:59 PM
My review was a lot better when it had paragraph breaks in it. Beaks is a moron because I never said it was the best comic book ever. Honestly, I had more fun with The Incredible Hulk, mostly because it has a better score and I'm heavily influenced by music. I'd rather watch paint dry than watch Heat. I never said that I didn't like Batman Begins, just that I didn't cream my pants over it. I'm not into artsy fartsy shit; I like fast paced action movies, so hopefully that clarifies my point of view a little bit. Let me put it this way. Unless they pull an Alien:Resurrection, Two Face won't be in the next one. And yeah, the letter is Alfred's secret. I didn't shit myself over TDK, but it was really good. I might prefer Batman Returns, because let's face it, Heath Ledger isn't better than Michelle Pfeiffer. I AM NOT A TOOL! But I was really stoned when I saw the movie, and sometimes I enjoy a movie less when I smoke too many blunts. Know what I mean? Like sometimes you like the movie more, but sometimes you just wanna get the fuck out of there and eat a Big Mac. I experienced that due to it's long running time. And I have a life and don't spend all day on Talkback, so don't waste your time asking me a million questions, because I probably won't read them. PEACE!
Damn You MCMLXXVI
by TheyCallMeMisterBay
Jun 27th, 2008
05:17:55 PM
Damn You MCMLXXVI
Verne Troyer as Mini-Penguin in the next Batman movie!
by Boomers_Lips
Jun 27th, 2008
05:19:46 PM
trust me!
ugh here comes the i hate burtons batman brigade
by seabiscuits
Jun 27th, 2008
05:25:00 PM
pull your head out of your asses and take a look again. ok now put your head back in cause your face is ugly. batman 89 is well made movie version of batman, probly the best you were gonna get after the 1969 batman that was the biggest mental image up until then. good movie, good style, good performances, a good way to end the 80's. batman returns was a blast for me, a christmas tradition every year. it did take me a few years to realize it though, didn't like it at first. but the catwoman made it much easier to watch, then i realized how sick penguin was and how cool a circus gang could be. yes very over the top, but come on it had christopher walken, and some great performances, michael kearon rocked. glad to say the next two batman flicks never grew on me.
No problem Agent Johnson
by flickchick85
Jun 27th, 2008
05:50:39 PM
That word "visionary" gets thrown around so often these days, I think it has different definitions to everyone.
seabiscuits - right on!
by MasterBateman
Jun 27th, 2008
05:56:58 PM
Batman Returns IS magic. As good as The Dark Knight is, nothing in it evokes goosebumps like the scene where Michelle Pfeiffer walks into her apartment and proceeds to go batshit crazy and transform into Catwoman. That scene is one of the most moving scenes in any movie I've ever seen. From the moment when she drones "honey, I'm home" to her reaction to the messages on the answering machine, shredding her stuffed animals in the food processor, shattering the fluorescent sign so it says "Hell Here." FUCK! That scene is AMAZING! And Michelle Pfeiffer, lookin all crazy and demented, is BEYOND fuckable. Let's face it, none of the Batman movies are an accurate translation of the comics, but the way Danny Elfman's score is weaved seamlessly into a tragic fairy tale about a misunderstood penguin freak and a sexually frustrated secretary is moving in the most darkly comic sort of way. And there are so many amazing moments in that movie. When Penguin bites off that dude's nose, when Miss Gotham gets attacked by bats, when Catwoman eats the parakeet, and of course when Bruce and Selena realize each other's secret identity's while they dance to that kick ass Siouxsie & the Banshee's song. I could watch that movie all day everyday. Sure, it's awesome when Heath Ledger does the "pencil trick." Everyone in the audience ate it up. And The Dark Knight is one of the best movies this year, but Batman Returns is one of the best motherfucking movies EVER! I'm gonna go watch it right now before I bust a nut thinking about it.
MasterBateman
by Damage_Inc
Jun 27th, 2008
06:08:36 PM
Man, thank you. I've always felt the same way about the Michelle Pfeiffer apartment scene. There's something terrible about watching her go insane and destroying all of her pretty girl things. It's disturbing as hell and almost makes me sick to watch.
Best news I heard today!
by RKO2285
Jun 27th, 2008
06:10:50 PM
I really hope it does live up to they hype... Fuck! I can't wait any longer.. and its going to be hard to avoid all the damn spoilers! oh and Heat doesn't suck!
MasterBateman
by Charlie Murphy
Jun 27th, 2008
06:12:15 PM
so Two_face is for sure for sure for sure done for? As for Batman Returns, I always found it a fairly worthy follow-up to B89, in spite of its weirdness. Danny DeVito was a good choice as Penguin, and that "Hell here" bit always made me smile.
I saw The Dark Knight too.....and regarding the Brokeback/Jerry
by Your Moms Box
Jun 27th, 2008
06:25:59 PM
It's not really a nod at either films. I think the reviewer was confusing a certain line of dialogue with the "I wish I knew how to quit you" line from BBM. But that said, even the line itself isnt a wink at Jerry Maguire. The Joker says "I don't want to kill you. You complete me." to Batman in one scene. Not so much a pop culture reference as it is a statment that the two need the other to exist.
Your Moms Box
by Charlie Murphy
Jun 27th, 2008
06:27:31 PM
can you answer my question, then? is two-face for sure gone at the ned?
i meant "End"
by Charlie Murphy
Jun 27th, 2008
06:28:45 PM
not "ned"
Your Moms Box
by Damage_Inc
Jun 27th, 2008
06:29:14 PM
Yeah, if you are telling the truth, please tell us about two-face.
WickedJester (Joker's deep breath)
by JamesT
Jun 27th, 2008
06:32:07 PM
He was imitating Grissom aka Jack Palance. Are you old enough to even know who Jack was? Just curious, because I thought it was pretty obvious.
zom-bot.com and damage inc
by Duffer63
Jun 27th, 2008
06:36:27 PM
Thanks. All Charlie Murphy that is some serious detective work. Your almost spot on. Enjoy it.
Duffer63
by Damage_Inc
Jun 27th, 2008
06:38:41 PM
Hey, man. What do you mean by that? Is 2-face really supposed to be gone at the end?
Re: Two-Face
by Your Moms Box
Jun 27th, 2008
06:38:56 PM
I don't know why you guys would want to ruin the movie for yourselves and know the fate of a major character...but if you really want to know, feel free to PM me. I really don't want to put spoilers up on this board and ruin the movie for someone. Or tempt people to ruin it for themselves.
Thanks Duffer
by Charlie Murphy
Jun 27th, 2008
06:39:18 PM
i apologize for being a dick after your review was posted the other day, you have been proven correct. So, my synopsis is valid?
Duffer63
by Damage_Inc
Jun 27th, 2008
06:46:47 PM
Now you can't pop in and tease us and then split. Is there any truth to 2-Face being gone at the end?
Any particular reason...
by slugbat
Jun 27th, 2008
06:54:58 PM
Everyone thinks any of the Spider-Mans were good? Especially that POS 2nd one, with that ridiculous "crucifixion" scene and all the whining and the crying. Fuck me, that was not SpiderMan. And Tobey is NOT Spidey! Jesus Dick Suckin' Christ that tril was terrible.
slugbat
by Charlie Murphy
Jun 27th, 2008
07:03:05 PM
i don't want to say i agree with you, because i don't feel as strongly as you do, but i always found the Spidey flicks to be... not that great. Part 2 is my favorite, but I don't consider it the best comic book movie ever. not even top 3. There's some good stuff in it, but it's not legendary. and i agree that Tobey is miscast as peter parker. seeing topher grace's enthusiasm in part 3 really made me wish someone else had gotten cast as peter. (not necessarily topher grace, but someone with the same fun screen presence...) tobey barely cracked a smile in all three movies, and even though peter got picked on and stuff, he is a more or less content kid who really embraces his alter ego. i rarely got that feeling in the trilogy. as for Part 3, it was awful, I don't like talking about it.
Duffer63/Your Moms Box
by Damage_Inc
Jun 27th, 2008
07:10:04 PM
Throw us a freakin' bone here!
Damage_Inc
by matalo
Jun 27th, 2008
07:25:24 PM
Sorry to flame but asking a million times and no one answering you should give you a hint.
You know, for all the cool news today....
by Damage_Inc
Jun 27th, 2008
07:27:04 PM
These talkbacks suck. Thanks a lot Duffer63 and Your Moms Box. You could have rescued us from the boredom.
MasterBateman
by Azby
Jun 27th, 2008
07:31:04 PM
The scene where Catwoman wrecks her apartment one of the most moving scenes in any film? I just finished watching returns for first time in years, it isn't THAT good. De Vito is awesome, Keaton, however, is 'The Happening' bad as batman. BB is better acting and dialogue wise, but BR feels more iconic due to Burton's direction. I think BB is more enjoyable overall though.
matalo
by Damage_Inc
Jun 27th, 2008
07:31:34 PM
What the fuck are you talking about? Duffer answered dozens of our questions the other day. Guess you don't know about that. Apparently, he just popped in today to fuck with us. Ordinarily, I'd be offended at your petty little comment, but these talkbacks suck so bad today, I don't even give a shit. I'd rather be flamed than wait for one idiotic post every 15 minutes.
HEAT SUCKS?
by Interficium
Jun 27th, 2008
07:36:04 PM
Pfffhahahahahaha.
Damage_Inc
by matalo
Jun 27th, 2008
08:05:15 PM
"Yeah, if you are telling the truth, please tell us about two-face."

"Is 2-face really supposed to be gone at the end?" "Is there any truth to 2-Face being gone at the end?"

Though I do like your thoughts about Bane and some of the other characters.

Batman doesn't fly
by eXcommunicated
Jun 27th, 2008
08:08:56 PM
He falls. With style.
BB is the godfather 1 of comic book movies
by Shadow Warrior
Jun 27th, 2008
08:09:12 PM
i've said it a long time ago. not flashy, gritty, grounded in realism, there are even some similarities between michael corleone and bruce wayne. i hoped TDK would be the godfather 2, good to know that it is. And one of the best things i love with nolan's work is the non-obvious cgi. I'm so fucking glad to be alive during nolan's time.
Damage_Inc
by Your Moms Box
Jun 27th, 2008
08:34:24 PM
Like I said, I'd be more than happy to spill beans to you if your so desperate to have the flick ruined for you 20 days before you have a chance to see it. But I will not post spoilers and or plot points here. Its not fair. Even if I tagged it with a "SPOILER WARNING", people simply can't resist but read it, and that's weak sauce. I only posted the Joker's line to Batman because I felt it was coming across like some hammy pop reference for people to look out for, when its really not even close. See the flick on July 18th. I'm saving you from yourself.
damage inc and charlie murphy
by Duffer63
Jun 27th, 2008
08:34:32 PM
Sorry to be such a tease! Hate to be the one to break it to you but Two Face falls from a serious height off of a building site. Batman and Gordan have a bunch of dialogue as Two Face is beside them dead on the ground. You dont see him in a coffin but you do see his funeral. He is a DEAD MAN. CM your almost spot on.
matalo
by Damage_Inc
Jun 27th, 2008
08:34:42 PM
First, I must be really bored to even fall into this shit. Second, did you even read my above post? Third, I honestly don't know what point you are even trying to make. And most important, did you actually just go and collect all of my posts and copy them into your post? Christ, that's creepy and sick even for the talkbacks. In fact, I don't think I've ever seen anybody do something so disturbing in all the years I've been here. Go stalk somebody else you fucking freak. BTW, this is why I was hoping Duffer would come and chat with us. At least you can have an intelligent conversation with him.
Your Moms Box
by Damage_Inc
Jun 27th, 2008
08:36:42 PM
Fair enough, Thanks. I'm just very bored right now.
Damage Inc
by Duffer63
Jun 27th, 2008
08:38:53 PM
Sorry these talkbacks were so boring for you today but it is Friday night! I Thank God I havent been sitting infront of the computer all day like the other day.
Duffer63
by Damage_Inc
Jun 27th, 2008
08:41:25 PM
Sup? And ditto to you. I know you guys don't want to spoil the movie for people and I appreciate that. It's just with all this 2-Face talk today, I've been wondering if it is going to be Venom all over again. An underdeveloped character that only gets minutes of screen time before being killed off.
Damage Inc
by Duffer63
Jun 27th, 2008
08:47:10 PM
I was thinking about this today. In some ways its annoying he is killed off because they really could of utilised the dynamic of The Joker and Two Face in Batman 3 but his death does work in this context as in some ways this movie is more his story than any other character. I kinda get the immpression that your a fricken huge Two Face fan so Im thinking your gonna be a tad dissapointed!
Agent Johnson
by Duffer63
Jun 27th, 2008
08:55:03 PM
Couldnt agree with you more. Thats why I dont really mind about Two Face as it made dramatic sense. It also says to the viewer that you dont really know where this franchise is going. Everyone is not just in it for the money. There is real artistry on show.
Two Face fan
by Damage_Inc
Jun 27th, 2008
08:55:06 PM
No, not really. I just thought that it was going to be Two Face in the 3rd movie after being set up in the 2nd. I think a lot of people thought that was how it was going to be. What I find funny about it is how so many people have been saying that it's good that DC quit killing off every villain like they did in the past. And how people thought they had learned their lesson after the previous Batman movies and SM3. That's ironic.
Damage Inc
by Duffer63
Jun 27th, 2008
08:59:34 PM
You have a point. I would never compare this film to SM3 though. That film really lost its way. Two many choir boys and only one priest so to speak. It seems my riddler theory is also gaining weight!
Batman 3
by Duffer63
Jun 27th, 2008
09:02:28 PM
I think we may only ever get a glympse of The Joker in Arkham in B3. I cant imagine we will get another Batman with The Joker as the main protaganist. Atleast not in this franchise. No other actor will want to take this on. Its too grand a task and will be considered sacrilege by many. It looks like they could be setting up The Riddler in this one but you just never know.
Batman Returns is the greatest S & M flick for kids eva!!!!!
by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks
Jun 27th, 2008
09:03:57 PM
Every time I saw it at the cinema, parents walked their kids out of that flick. Burton rules(hey Tim, I won't mention Planet of the Apes).
Duffer63
by Damage_Inc
Jun 27th, 2008
09:04:38 PM
Yeah, I guess so. But I'm not sure which other character could carry a Nolan Batman movie. All the other ones are second rate. Unless they did a brutal Bane or Black Mask like I mentioned before. I think it's a little soon to see Batman get his back broken though.
Damage Inc
by Duffer63
Jun 27th, 2008
09:10:01 PM
I would love to see Bane. I loved that storyline as a kid. Dont think he will be the next one though. Who knows with who they are gonna go with or whatever type pf story they decide to tell. All I know is I hope they keep on improving on each one. Did you see chud.com did a thing talking about all the hyperbole surrounding Heathe's performance?
Duffer63
by Damage_Inc
Jun 27th, 2008
09:11:18 PM
Here's a non spoiler question for you. Do you think Ledger's death had anything to do with Dent dying in the movie, or was it already a done deal? It just seems strange to me that they would kill off two face and not Scarecrow or the Joker.
Duffer63
by Damage_Inc
Jun 27th, 2008
09:13:22 PM
re: chud.com. No, do you have a link?
Dmage Inc
by Duffer63
Jun 27th, 2008
09:15:47 PM
I dont believe there were any reshoots for the film after Heath died. That would lead me to believe that Two Face always died in the Nolans version of the script. So done deal.
Come to think of it....
by Damage_Inc
Jun 27th, 2008
09:18:48 PM
The Batman Forever Two-face died from falling, too. I thought they could be a little more original than that.
Damage Inc
by Duffer63
Jun 27th, 2008
09:21:32 PM
I dont think its a case of being original so much as what works best for the film. Most people who watch the film arent going to notice when Heath's Joker uses a line that Jack's joker did before him. It just works at that moment. Two Face death the similarities are just coincidence and again in this case it just makes sense.
Chud Article
by Duffer63
Jun 27th, 2008
09:22:13 PM
They do hae a point!
a quote from the 2nd review:
by BadMrWonka
Jun 27th, 2008
09:23:19 PM
"Of course Christian Bales, Bruce Wayne is spot on, especially in showing bruces torment on how he has to handle the Joker."

way to blow the possessive apostrophe twice in one befuddled sentence. what are they TEACHING kids these days?

Agent Johnson
by Duffer63
Jun 27th, 2008
09:24:21 PM
Again you are correct. Thats why I made the original comparison to The Godfather Part 2. They made that as a film. Not so much as a sequel or as a part of a trilogy. TDK feels the same.
Agent Johnson
by Damage_Inc
Jun 27th, 2008
09:24:41 PM
Yeah but shit, almost every comic book movie kills off the villains at the end nowadays. That's what was supposed to be unique about Nolan's series, that it could be an ongoing story with the same characters.
no more joker
by j2talk
Jun 27th, 2008
09:28:58 PM
why would we want to see the joker again???? Even if done well, Batman has got enough villians without the need to bring the Joker back again
"fake his death but he would really be M.I.A."
by Damage_Inc
Jun 27th, 2008
09:29:28 PM
Yeah, that's how it was in the Long Halloween or Dark victory (one of the two). That could easily be a movie in itself.

by matalo
Jun 27th, 2008
09:29:56 PM
There were no reshoots after Ledger died, duffer. What we see is what they intended us to see.

Three weeks and counting.

zom-bot.com
by Duffer63
Jun 27th, 2008
09:29:58 PM
This Reese kid. Thats an interesting one. He is quite good in the role he plays but it would be one hell of a transformation from that character to the riddler. He hasnt done much to make you think that he would be up to the task. He was in Iron Man but I dont remember him. Pretty cool for him being in two of the biggest and best movies of the summer.
Matalo
by Duffer63
Jun 27th, 2008
09:31:35 PM
Thought as much. Just trying to sooth young damage inc. He is bloody excited to see this movie!
Duffer63
by matalo
Jun 27th, 2008
09:33:14 PM
That, sir, is an understatement.
Duffer63
by Damage_Inc
Jun 27th, 2008
09:34:34 PM
Are you familiar with The Long Halloween or Dark Victory graphic novels? If so could that character you have been talking about be more like a Calendar man than the Riddler?
Riddler
by Silverglade
Jun 27th, 2008
09:37:56 PM
Was that villain ever one of the characters Nolan said would not work out in his Batman "world" he is creating? I remember Robin definitely not being something he would consider. But I can't remember if Riddler was.
Agent Johnson
by Duffer63
Jun 27th, 2008
09:38:16 PM
Why thank you sir. If it makes you feel any better Ill be seeing it open night again. Im hated by some of my friends at the moment! As for the hyperbole. There is only going to be more and more of it due to the unfortunate events that happened outside of the film. Credit is most certainly due to all involved especially Heath but I think all the hyperbole may hinder it in some regards.
Silverglade
by Damage_Inc
Jun 27th, 2008
09:42:16 PM
I'm pretty sure that he said he could never do a Penguin in his movies. Not sure about the Riddler.
Damage Inc
by Duffer63
Jun 27th, 2008
09:42:56 PM
I dont think he is Calender man. I would lean more towards the riddler. If this one used Heat as a source of inspiration. How cool would B3 using those stories as a basis and Silence Of The Lambs as inspiration.
Silence Of The Lambs as inspiration.
by Damage_Inc
Jun 27th, 2008
09:45:25 PM
Yeah, I think that's what the original Calendar Man was supposed to be.
Agent Johnson
by Duffer63
Jun 27th, 2008
09:46:48 PM
U can always rely on chid when things get a little bit OTT on this site.
Meant Chud obviously!
by Duffer63
Jun 27th, 2008
09:47:41 PM
zom-bot.com
by Damage_Inc
Jun 27th, 2008
09:51:35 PM
That's a good question. I don't think they would do any of the supernatural villains like Ivy, Croc or say Grundy. They could make the Hatter into a pedophile, but that would be totally dark. On the other hand, that has been implied of the Hatter before, hasn't it?
zom-bot.com
by Damage_Inc
Jun 27th, 2008
09:53:29 PM
But Harley Quinn may actually work in Nolan's world.
NO. ROBIN. EVER.
by DOGSOUP
Jun 27th, 2008
09:54:13 PM
This deserves to be repeated
maybe a clue, maybe not
by Silverglade
Jun 27th, 2008
09:59:49 PM
But it would seem that Gotham Knight DVD is intent to address those villains that would not appear on Nolan film, so they explore them and elaborate them via the animation (to incredible glory I am hearing, i.e. Killer Croc), if Riddler is not IN Gothan Knight I would only see that as raising his chances of a Nolan take on him. Maybe I am completely wrong, just throwing that out there.
zom-bot.com
by Damage_Inc
Jun 27th, 2008
10:00:35 PM
Do you think a storyline like The Long Halloween or Dark Victory could be done if they replaced Two-Face with another character?
Riddle me this:
by a rolling stone
Jun 27th, 2008
10:01:42 PM
Anybody know anything about the Deathstroke action figure being released with this movie? The story popped up, then went away. I know the figures are "based on the universe" Nolan created, but does that not strike anyone as an odd choice to just toss into the figure line? Deathstroke? He doesn't even live in Gotham. I thought maybe it'd be AMH, since he was quoted as saying "I play a big multi-million dollar secret character that's an anti-batman type", and now they say he's just a reporter. I saw the report he did, so maybe he is just a reporter...but why does the Deathstroke action figure exist? Why?
Silverglade
by Damage_Inc
Jun 27th, 2008
10:03:03 PM
Do you know any other villains in Gotham Knight?
a rolling stone
by Damage_Inc
Jun 27th, 2008
10:07:11 PM
I remember hearing about that about the Deathstroke action figure too. I also remember AMH saying something like that. I think everyone who has seen the movie says he is only a reporter though. Either way, it's interesting.
Damage_Inc
by Silverglade
Jun 27th, 2008
10:09:02 PM
I know Dead Shot is in it.
Umm... HEAT Sucks?!
by codymr
Jun 27th, 2008
10:10:53 PM
I can't take a review like Gary DP's seriously with comments like that. Scorsese said it was one of the best films of the '90s... I'll take Marty's opinion over Gary DP's hands down.
per two-face
by Damage_Inc
Jun 27th, 2008
10:12:57 PM
Well, It's been awhile since I read them, but I think one or both of them had Two-Face resurfacing after being presumed dead. I think he was also controlling the mob or other villains or something too. I think that's why everyone thought that would be the storyline for Batman 3. It could be a similar story with a different villain, I guess, if Dent really is dead.
Another question...
by Damage_Inc
Jun 27th, 2008
10:20:02 PM
Is it possible that there are two endings for TDK, and that they would show only one to the "sneak peak " audiences and a different one on opening day? Do studios do this? Has anyone heard of this happening with any other movie?
Duffer- the question no one has asked yet:
by Charlie Murphy
Jun 27th, 2008
10:20:23 PM
How's the score?
Damage Inc, re: Gotham Knight villains
by Charlie Murphy
Jun 27th, 2008
10:23:25 PM
Scarecrow, Killer Croc and Dead Shot.
HUSH
by Damage_Inc
Jun 27th, 2008
10:30:26 PM
What's the main plot of Hush, anyway?
No Man's Land.
by Damage_Inc
Jun 27th, 2008
10:37:31 PM
Now that would be an awesome Batman movie, I forgot about that one.
Charlie Murphy
by Duffer63
Jun 27th, 2008
10:43:10 PM
Honestly the only thing I could comment about the score is that I noticed at one or two points that they were building on the batman begins hero theme. Maybe even hints of the original Batman theme coming through. Other than that its pretty pedestrian. Im outta here. Talk to you on another talk back.
a couple comments
by Silverglade
Jun 27th, 2008
10:44:32 PM
A couple things.

I think that there are so few villains in Gotham Knight my previous guesstimation is not really worth much. I still hope Riddler is in Nolan's part 3 though.

That leads me to the next thing. If you guys remember the article "Warner was so pleased with The Dark Knight that they hope Chris returns for a third one". I think Chris had always intended/envisioned a trilogy (only) - even though he takes it one step at a time, so that seems automatic.

Toss in that quote from Bale way back when he said that the way TDK ends, "it would be great if they got to do a third one".

Everyone will love TDK but .. and this gonna become personal opinion a bit, but . once Nolan continues the comics film tradition of the second film (the part 2 of a trilogy) becoming the best... how exactly will he develop that.. well... often terrible part 3. Don't get me wrong, I have like 200% trust in Nolan to show the damn globe how you do a part 3. But still, pondering over how he might approach it is intriguing.

Duffer63
by Damage_Inc
Jun 27th, 2008
10:45:47 PM
Don't forget zom-bot's question.
zom-bot.com
by Duffer63
Jun 27th, 2008
10:46:39 PM
The Joker just shows up fully formed at the beginning. He isnt a hired hand by the mob. At first he is working for himself and working at expanding his group of vigilantes. He gets brought it by the other gangs to take Batman on. He only has two maybe three bits of exposition. Some fanboys might have an issue with the origins of the smile but I liked it.
Silverglade
by Damage_Inc
Jun 27th, 2008
10:48:58 PM
I hear you. It seems the third part of any trilogy is destined to become shit.
silverglade + zom-bot.com
by Duffer63
Jun 27th, 2008
10:50:36 PM
Peter Jackson laid down the roadmap for how to finish of a trilogy the way it should be done. Stay true to the material.
How many Talkbackers does it take to change a lightbulb?
by chromedome
Jun 27th, 2008
10:51:23 PM
1 to change the light bulb and to post that the light bulb has been changed.

14 to share similar experiences of changing light bulbs and how the light bulb could have been changed differently.

7 to caution about the dangers of changing light bulbs.

27 to point out spelling/grammar errors in posts about changing light bulbs.

53 to flame the spell checkers.

41 to correct spelling/grammar flames.

6 to argue over whether it's "lightbulb" or "light bulb"...another 6 to condemn those 6 as anal-retentive

2 industry professionals to inform the group that the proper term is "lamp".

15 know-it-alls who claim *they* were in the industry, and that "light bulb" is perfectly correct.

156 to email the participant's ISPs complaining that they are in violation of their "acceptable use policy".

109 to post that this group is not about light bulbs and to please take this discussion to a lightbulb group

203 to demand that cross posting to hardware forum, off-topic forum, and lightbulb group about changing light bulbs be stopped.

111 to defend the posting to this group saying that we all use light bulbs and therefore the posts *are* relevant to this group.

306 to debate which method of changing light bulbs is superior, where to buy the best light bulbs, what brand of light bulbs work best for this technique, and what brands are faulty.

27 to post URL's where one can see examples of different light bulbs.

14 to post that the URL's were posted incorrectly and then post the corrected URL's.

3 to post about links they found from the URL's that are relevant to this group which makes light bulbs relevant to this group.

33 to link all posts to date, quote them in their entirety including all headers and signatures, and add "Me too".

12 to post to the group that they will no longer post because they cannot handle the light bulb controversy.

19 to quote the "Me too's" to say "Me three".

4 to suggest that posters request the light bulb FAQ.

44 to ask what is a "FAQ".

4 to say "didn't we go through this already a short time ago?"

143 to say "do a Google search on light bulbs before posting questions about light bulbs".

1 to add up all the above numbers and provide the total in a separate post....

(saw this elsewhere and liked it!)

"how do you top the joker?"
by Damage_Inc
Jun 27th, 2008
10:51:36 PM
Yeah, especially if they killed off two face. They would have to have a really great and epic storyline like Hush or No Man's Land to succeed.
The Bill Douglas Trilogy
by Duffer63
Jun 27th, 2008
10:53:34 PM
You may not have heard of them but they are all equal films within this trilogy. Not a comic book movie though that is for sure.
Chromedome
by Duffer63
Jun 27th, 2008
10:56:29 PM
Spot on but you forgot 1 to shout out first!
Heat
by Duffer63
Jun 27th, 2008
10:58:14 PM
Its funny how much Heat I got for mentioning Heat . . .
Agent Johnson
by Damage_Inc
Jun 27th, 2008
10:59:17 PM
Yeah, I'll bet there's been 50 of them so far. Just because of one sentence in one review. Christ.
Duffer63
by Damage_Inc
Jun 27th, 2008
11:02:03 PM
Since you're still here, what do you think of the theory that there could be 2 TDK endings?
And Duffer63
by Damage_Inc
Jun 27th, 2008
11:05:57 PM
I think I just got that. ;)
Agent Johnson
by Damage_Inc
Jun 27th, 2008
11:07:59 PM
Did you hear anything about the Two Face ending?
Damage Inc
by Duffer63
Jun 27th, 2008
11:09:37 PM
I hadnt heard that they had filmed different endings. I was told that the print I saw was the final product. They were certainly very careful with it after the screening. I may be wrong but Im almost positive that what I saw is what you will be seeing in the cinema. It would be pretty cool if I was wrong though.
Hmmmm.
by Damage_Inc
Jun 27th, 2008
11:09:39 PM
How interesting. Ha!
Damage Inc
by Duffer63
Jun 27th, 2008
11:11:48 PM
Ha! Bit slow on the uptake. What time is it in your part of the world?
11:11 pm
by Damage_Inc
Jun 27th, 2008
11:13:14 PM
Did I just learn a secret or am I just tired?
Secrets
by Duffer63
Jun 27th, 2008
11:16:16 PM
are there never to be revealed.
Duffer63
by chromedome
Jun 27th, 2008
11:16:51 PM
dammit! How could I have missed THAT? Sometimes even more than one shouts First--never happened to me personally, of course...
crossover into a justice league movie
by Damage_Inc
Jun 27th, 2008
11:17:33 PM
That's actually what I thought when people started talking about Hush. I think I may have read the first chapter to that. Wasn't that the one where Batman knocks Superman out?
Or better yet...
by Damage_Inc
Jun 27th, 2008
11:22:58 PM
Wasn't Superman in Dark Knight Returns?
Duffer63
by Damage_Inc
Jun 27th, 2008
11:26:19 PM
BTW, you are officially my new hero.
Speaking of Marvel...
by Damage_Inc
Jun 27th, 2008
11:28:00 PM
Does anyone know if the new Punisher movie is supposed to be a part of this new Marvel universe?
Damage Inc
by Duffer63
Jun 27th, 2008
11:28:09 PM
Ha thanks. It didnt take much. You have just made my day!
'marvel ripoff'
by Damage_Inc
Jun 27th, 2008
11:30:09 PM
Yeah, but I think they'll probably try it anyway. They are just itching to do a JL movie. God knows why.
might be the opposite
by Silverglade
Jun 27th, 2008
11:34:28 PM
Where Marvel has all these characters standing on their own, respectively, in films - and a group (Avengers) flick would be simply cool..

DC might be trying to get a group film going to simply garner interest in those DC characters in order to justify unique films based on the characters included. And go from there. (Green Lantern, The Flash, Wonder Woman)

avengers will go astray.
by Damage_Inc
Jun 27th, 2008
11:36:40 PM
I agree. Especially if they try to add a Thor or Ant Man. Some characters just don't belong on the big screen. And what the hell villain would they have? The Leader ala Hulk?
I agree with Damage
by Silverglade
Jun 27th, 2008
11:39:54 PM
"Some characters just don't belong on the big screen."

Not EVERY character can be adapted successfully. Wonder Woman has got to be the most difficult one in my mind. So many, many reasons why.

Same for JL though....
by Damage_Inc
Jun 27th, 2008
11:40:26 PM
Anybody remember a while back when they said they were going to have Talia Agul and someone else noone had ever heard of for villains in that movie? No wonder they scrapped it.
Are there even any ....
by Damage_Inc
Jun 27th, 2008
11:46:11 PM
memorable Avengers villains? I may have heard of Loki but that's about it.
Damage... **SPOILERS**
by MasterBateman
Jun 27th, 2008
11:46:34 PM
How do I say this without being mean.... I know you're going to continue to ask this question a million times, but Two Face is dead. You see his dead body. You see his funeral. Unless in the sequel he digs his way out of his grave like The Bride in Kill Bill Vol 2, then he's not going to be in the sequel. When I implied in my review that he's another Venom, I wasn't implying that he's underdeveloped, because the whole fucking movie is about his character. The reason I compared him to Venom is because aesthetically, he's a really cool looking character with the fucked up face and everything. So when he dies it's kinda like "that sucks, we won't get to look at his awesome fucked up face anymore." But I promise you two face is dead. And I promise you that the version you see will have the same ending that I saw. And The Joker lives, so I guess they could recast him for the sequel. I would guess The Riddler and I agree with Duffer that the guy who finds Batman's identity could very much become that character. I, myself, would love to see Clayface. I know it's not "realistic" but neither was Scarecrow with the fear gas and demonic looking Batman and all that shit. So they could do a cool Clayface. The monster aspect may not be "realistic" but his story sure is if they go with the Matt Hagen thing from the animated series. I think that would be great. I actually heard a rumor that this one ended with something on tv about an actor who uses an anti-aging cream that turns his finger to caramel. Unfortunately that rumor isn't true, but it would have been cool.
Superman Batman crossover.
by Duffer63
Jun 27th, 2008
11:49:41 PM
As far as I know both are owned by Warners. If JL makes money then perhaps it may happen. Any of you remember Batman Vs Superman? There was a nod to it in I AM LEGEND. A billboard in times square. Just seeing the logo was cool. Some people felt that it was more than just a joke but a quite deliberate move to place that within the film that was showing 6 minuts of TDK before it.
Agent Johnson
by Damage_Inc
Jun 27th, 2008
11:50:57 PM
I think you have a good point. It does sound like Marvel is going to fuck the IM franchise before it really even begins. And I think Marvel only has Wolverine for 2009, don't they? Yes, I can see the superhero genre going downhill fast.
MasterBateman
by Damage_Inc
Jun 27th, 2008
11:57:54 PM
Thanks, I guess. It just surprised me that they would do something like that after the reaction they got from SM3. Really, I don't care. Of course I'll watch the movie anyway. That was just something we were talking to Duffer about quite a while ago.
Comic book movies
by Duffer63
Jun 28th, 2008
12:00:00 AM
Agreed. This summer is the zentith of comic book filmmaking. So much money will be made by the end of the summer that things will start to change and studios will start to make their influences felt. History always repeats itself. There will be one or two gems amongst the next crop though. JL just wont work. It wont be a classic. Its not possible for it to be. WATCHMEN on the other hand. Im bloody ravenous to see it.
Can't read these "reviews" - they're spoilers!!!
by ZeroCorpse
Jun 28th, 2008
12:00:44 AM
Jeez. It's a REVIEW, not a retelling.
zom-bot.com
by Damage_Inc
Jun 28th, 2008
12:04:25 AM
No shit, I was thinking the same things. All the little 12 year olds must be in bed already.
zom-bot.com and damage inc
by Duffer63
Jun 28th, 2008
12:05:32 AM
Likewise. Ive very much enjoyed chatting to you both and numerous others over the past few days. I am off to hit the hay. I normally say this and end up hanging around for Damage to ask me one more time if Two Face is really dead as in dead six feet under as in never coming back as in he is in hell as in he is a rotting corpse! Kidding. Good luck and enjoy.
Duffer63
by Damage_Inc
Jun 28th, 2008
12:07:54 AM
Ha. I just gotta freakin know man! Hey there was one thing I meant to ask you. Where the hell did you see it anyway?
Damage Inc
by Duffer63
Jun 28th, 2008
12:11:17 AM
If I told you I would have to kill you. Goodnight and goodluck. Talk to you in another talkback.
Screw it
by Damage_Inc
Jun 28th, 2008
12:12:01 AM
I'm outta here too. Later.
Duffer Saw It In Amsterdam
by MasterBateman
Jun 28th, 2008
12:43:17 AM
It was in Variety that the first screening was at the Pathe Imax in Amsterdam as part of Cinema Expo.
Heat
by Cujo_Fugate
Jun 28th, 2008
01:26:10 AM
By saying you didn't like Heat you immediately render irrelevant your opinions on anything... Ever...
"One of OUR greater talents.."?
by Snarf Snarf
Jun 28th, 2008
01:41:31 AM
Chris Nolan is ENGLISH, dickhead. Born and raised in London. Oh and thanks to your buddies for spoiling the pencil trick. Go shove one up your arse.
'arses'
by Snarf Snarf
Jun 28th, 2008
01:42:03 AM
..collectively
Battle of the Batmans
by The E
Jun 28th, 2008
02:00:09 AM
This video is way too cool! http:// black20.com/black20-trailer-pa rk/battle-batmans
there's no way this will be a great movie
by Rupee88
Jun 28th, 2008
02:02:09 AM
These superhero movies are so watered down and made to appeal to the widest possible audience that they are never edgy or really powerful or moving. I know everyone hear loves to anticipate a new film and then try so hard to love it, but 2 years down the road, this will probably seen as just "OK" like BB. I am still looking forward to this film but I kind of expect to be disappointed, just like with Iron Man.
Why?
by man with rock
Jun 28th, 2008
03:45:54 AM
Why some of you guys ask for spoilers from the people who already saw this movie? I've seen it already, and I'm really glad that I knew next to nothing about the plot. But hey, what do I know...
I CAN'T WAIT ANY LONGER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by messi
Jun 28th, 2008
03:59:11 AM
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Headless !
by duder69er
Jun 28th, 2008
05:32:30 AM
Hey! Ain't seen this yet,but,in the trailer,where cowl-less Batmans sitting in,looks like a penthouse...there seems to be a guy slumped in the opposite chair...without a head ! Anyone else spot that !?
I'm a Batman Returns man myself
by Franklin T Marmoset
Jun 28th, 2008
05:53:50 AM
I know it's not a popular choice, but I still like it. The costumes, production design and cinematography are all beautiful, Danny Elfman's score is still my favourite superhero music, and I love that it's an entire film about freaks and misfits, which is right up my allley.

Still, I am starting to get a bit more excited about this new Batman shenanigans. The Heat comparison is very intriguing. Also, it's got Aaron Eckhart in it, and I like that guy. He played one of the great movie pricks in In The Company Of Men, I reckon.

Hey, I was the 500th post
by Franklin T Marmoset
Jun 28th, 2008
05:59:14 AM
Do I get a badge or summink?

P.S. 501st!!!!!11

HEAT Kinda Does Suck, Sorry
by LaserPants
Jun 28th, 2008
06:08:48 AM
The only reason anybody likes it is because two great actors are in it, but its a pretty disposable and pointless. Be honest with yourselves and watch it again. Its really not a good movie, it just has a lot of star power.
Heat is great, and here is why
by romanocc
Jun 28th, 2008
06:53:27 AM
Heat is one of the best movies I have seen in the past 15 years. It's great because it has character development, which so many movies today fail to capture. It gets inside the lives of the good guys (Pacino), and the bad guys (Deniro & Kilmer), and the toll their jobs take on their marriages, kids, etc. It shows that no matter how well they do their jobs, the personal lives are not perfect, and that leaves them with an empty life in some ways. Heat has everything: a great story, a great cast, and damn good shoot out scene after the bank robbery. I mean who wouldn't love a movie with the bad guys played by DeNiro, Kilmer and Sizemore?
TDK is trying to be more then a comic book movie, and I can't wa
by romanocc
Jun 28th, 2008
06:57:47 AM
I haven't seen TDK, but I give Nolan alot of credit for trying to do something different in this genre. Sorry guys, but comic book movies are pretty lame these days, as they are so by the book paint by numbers movies that you walk in knowing exactly what will happen, and the movies are all about action & cgi instead of story & character development. TDK I believe is the opposite, as it is trying to explore these pyschies of Batman & Joker, and what makes these guys tick? I am pysched to see this movie, and couldn't care less about that Indy IV movie that came out in the summer, as that movie relied on the greatness of the original and all the nostalgia to get people in the theater. TDK still has to battle the demons of that awful Clooney Batman movie, so Nolan has to put out something that is great or nobody will go, compared to Lucas/Spielberg that can put out more shit sequels, and as long as that John Williams score is great, and Harrison Ford is on screen, the faithful will show up!
Heat was awesome
by I Dunno
Jun 28th, 2008
07:28:42 AM
You philistines.
HEAT does not remotely suck.
by blackmantis
Jun 28th, 2008
07:33:19 AM
And I have seen it and examined it multiple times. If it has one problem it's that it tries to tackle one too many character...And Batman Begins, which I loved the first time, gets better and better every time I see it.
HoboCode
by @gape
Jun 28th, 2008
07:46:50 AM
Thank you for your comment about continuity and Rachel Dawes. I still feel (see previous thread) that Christopher Nolan should reshoot the Katie Holmes scenes from Batman Begins. Nolan is a skilled enough director that he could do it. I have recently watched the film (with an eye for the Rachel Dawes scenes.) She appears in maybe eight minutes of the film. Maggie Gyllenhal, although not as attractive as Katie Holmes, is a much better actress IMHO.
I can't wait!
by MrNotHere
Jun 28th, 2008
07:59:58 AM
Adam West and Cesar Romero back on the big screen again. Its been too long since the exploding shark and the lovely Miss Kitka! This movie will rock!
If we're lucky...
by MrNotHere
Jun 28th, 2008
08:01:44 AM
Alfred will have to put on the batsuit at some point, and have to stick out his chest and look verile to impersonate Batman!
Geeks 'n' Creeps!
by Iowa Snot Client
Jun 28th, 2008
08:29:26 AM
So, does a Creeper spinoff starring AMH hit screens in 2011? Someone strip him down and paint him yellow, stat!
Batman as outcast
by kafka07
Jun 28th, 2008
08:31:53 AM
Unlike the first reviewer, I think the outcast theme in TDK will work. My impression is they have woven that into the dynamics between Batman and Harvey Dent pretty well. Eventually Batman atones for his ethical compromises (like spying, rendition) by taking the blame for Dent's murders. And in a third film Batman could be vindicated.
Re: Knives Don't Make Noise When They're Handled
by Iowa Snot Client
Jun 28th, 2008
08:33:26 AM
I feel you. This is compounded by the fact that there's apparently only one "knife being unsheathed" sound effect in existence.
Can't wait for Dark Knight
by Tony Is A Little Boy
Jun 28th, 2008
09:20:58 AM
but gotta agree that Heat really does suck. I have seen this movie repeatedly and it just bores the shit out of me everytime I watch it. Pacino: embarrassing overacting. DeNiro: sleep-enducing under-acting. Kilmer can't act. I never cared about any of the characters, and the movie is just too goddamn long for a standard cops-n-robbers type story. I'll admit, the Bob-n-Al coffee shop conversation was intense, and I will say that the gunfight in the middle of the film is worth the effort, it really is exciting, otherwise, Michael Mann has made much better movies.
I'll wager that
by Tony Is A Little Boy
Jun 28th, 2008
09:31:03 AM
Dark Knight will be every bit as fucking great as Spider-Man 2 and will leave us with high expectations for the third film, and that, as with that silly-ass, overlong turdfest that was Spider-Man 3, we will be vastly disappointed.
zom-bot.com
by Duffer63
Jun 28th, 2008
10:34:44 AM
U make me feel like Danson. A work of genius.
TWO FACE DOES NOT DIE IN THIS MOVIE
by Teh Suk
Jun 28th, 2008
10:39:02 AM
So stfu.
Two face is the villian for #3
by Teh Suk
Jun 28th, 2008
10:39:50 AM
He does NOT die in Dark Knight. Get over it.
And Maggie is WAY sexier than Katie Holmes
by Teh Suk
Jun 28th, 2008
10:41:16 AM
Grow up, fan bitches.
As good as Spiderman 2....?
by CaptainTripsUK
Jun 28th, 2008
10:57:53 AM
Jeez, give TDK a chance why dont you, surely it wont be that bad.. Chocolate cake anyone?
I saw Dark Knight last night....
by mpfanatic
Jun 28th, 2008
11:08:19 AM
I was fortunate enough to see the dark knight screning tonight at the Bridge IMAX theatre in Los Angeles. I was really excited about this movie, I knew it was going to be good, I knew it was going to be great. I had NO IDEA that would end up being A. not only the greatest comic book movie ever made, but B. one of my all time favorite movies ever. I still dont understand how the guy who played the Joker is Heath Ledger. This isnt an oscar nomination wprthy performanmce, this is an oscar clinching perf. In fact i cant see how this movie cant be considered for best picture of the year. I'de much rather see this masterpiece than some oscar tearjerker set in the early 1800's. Heath Ledger is incredible, he makes your heart pound with intensity, he makes you feel for the fact that heath isnt with us to see this amazing performance and discuss it, he makes you forget the 2 words Jack. Nicholson. WHO??? When I heard this casting I thought no way, but way. way. I wont go into spoilers cause I dont think ANYONE should read spoilers for this movie. Also suprising Aaron eckhart as Harvey Dent is brilliant. If Heath wasnt in this Eckhart would be the shining star of this movie. hell even Maggie Gyllenhall was great! Christian Bale IS Batman. Best Batman ever. Jesus it sounds like I work for WB features but I dont, no affiliation what so ever. This is just one of the best movies I have ever seen. brilliant turns, Brilliant directing, Brilliant aciting. batman Begins looks like one of those Meet the Spartans/Not another Teen movie compared to the Dark Knight Aliright I am done with my rant
No Taste
by A-COD
Jun 28th, 2008
11:20:36 AM
I stopped reading when Gary DP stated he didn't like Batman Begins or Heat. What movie did you like DP? Hairspray, Grease, Ghost Rider? Why were you even there?
RE: knife sounds
by thebearovingian
Jun 28th, 2008
11:43:16 AM
Unfortunately, they do that all the time in movies. Consider the squeal/ screech of brakes when a car comes to a stop. Why do they do this? Depending on the type of brake pads there could be some noise but come on! Or someone walking and they "enhance" the sound of the footsteps. Or someone flipping a light switch. Or striking a match. For some reason these sounds have to be loud and in Dolby Digital.
Glad to hear all the positives
by mrfan
Jun 28th, 2008
11:44:36 AM
Cannot wait.
memories
by mpfanatic
Jun 28th, 2008
11:45:14 AM
No Not at all I loved BB. Its a FANTASTIC movie I watched it thurs night again so it was fresh in my mind, but when you put the 2 together. TDK FAR exceeds BB. Its like X1 vs X2. BB plays like a movie. TDK plays like a 150 min scene. The hype that you are talking about is there but TDK, for me, exceeded that hype
Does this have a rating yet?
by reTARDIS
Jun 28th, 2008
11:58:18 AM
JamesT
by WickedJester
Jun 28th, 2008
12:07:45 PM
A little late, I know, but I know who he was impersonating... I just typed it the way he said it. I was referring to who the hell was Bob, his right hand man... looking back on it, Joker was like a Bond villian with an endless supply of disposeable bad guys -- most likely credited as Joker Goon #1, #2, etc. except for said Bob.
I had a nightmare about the Joker last night
by TerryMalloy
Jun 28th, 2008
12:23:06 PM
Scared the shit out of me. Heath Ledger's performance in my dream was Oscar worthy
"He has not made a bad film yet..."
by TheGoddamnSiege
Jun 28th, 2008
12:45:22 PM
I love Christopher Nolan's work, but Following was an incomprehensible mess of a film. Insomnia was mediocre at best.
So by my count...
by HoichiTheEarless
Jun 28th, 2008
01:02:59 PM
This is the third greatest comic book adaption ever this summer... Went to see Iron Man and Hulk having my expectations pumped by early word. Enjoyed IM mostly due to RDJ's performance but was very underwhelmed by TIH. Didn't find either particularly enthralling. More or less the same reaction I had to Batman Begins...
152 Minutes for a BATMAN movie???????
by m_prevette
Jun 28th, 2008
01:51:33 PM
You GOTTA be FUCKIN KIDDIN ME...was no one in the damn Avid room with Nolan????? TRIM that bastard!!!!!!!!!!
Fuck yeah I wish it were longer.
by CrichtonAstronut
Jun 28th, 2008
03:08:03 PM
Batman Begins was genius and this looks even better.
Riddler in next Batman movie?
by jawsfan
Jun 28th, 2008
04:41:45 PM
Read somewhere that David Hyde-Pierce is being considered for The Riddler. He's slender enough to match our mental image of Riddler, though DH-P might have to buff up a little bit. And try not to think of him solely as Niles Crane - he's a talented actor and I think casting him against type will yield some interesting results. Carrey was too over-the-top, if you ask me. I betcha H-P could be surprisingly good in a villainous turn. As Ledger has proven, a great actor can make you forget you're looking at an actor and make you think only about the character.
Reviewers...
by SunTzu77
Jun 28th, 2008
05:24:29 PM
...try to refrain from movie comparisons. As soon as the reviewer bashed "Heat" by Michael Mann... the reviewer lost all credibility to me.
I ain't reading a word of this shit
by GimpInMyPants
Jun 28th, 2008
07:38:23 PM
I'm not falling for the hype, I'm not going as a tribute to Heath Ledger, I just want a superb Batman movie, and I dun want it spoiled.
Fuck The Minority
by anyrandomhero
Jun 28th, 2008
07:46:16 PM
I'll let personal opinions go for the burton vs batman begins argument but the fuckwits saying this will bomb need to choke on their cocks while sucking themselves off. Either TDK or wall e will be the biggest film of the year and it will be fairly tight..or ill eat my batman socks
MAGGIE SUCKS - FUGLY & TINY TA-TAS
by Da B-Meister
Jun 28th, 2008
08:18:07 PM
Talk about your bad re-casting.....Maggie can't act worth a turtle turd, and she isn't even remotely attractive.
Watch The Secretary, then try to say Maggie aint smokin hot
by chromedome
Jun 28th, 2008
08:57:38 PM
dare ya...
M-O-M makes a good point.
by mrfan
Jun 28th, 2008
09:01:41 PM
A movie can never be too long if it is a good one. Two of my favorite movies are Godfather and Godfather II. Always can watch them no matter the length. Getting more and more pumped everyday about this.
My thoughts on all the Batman flcks
by batzilla
Jun 28th, 2008
09:21:49 PM
Not that anyone gives a shit but... Anywho- B89 was cool for its time but now, after seeing BEGINS and from I have seen of TDK, SUCKS! B89 just seems so stupid now that I have seen the REAL Batman. RETURNS was HORRIBLE! It sucked when it was released and it sucks now! I couldnt wait to see RETURNS when it was released and I remember very well being EXTREMELY disappointed. You could easily tell it was all filmed on a high school theater stage for Gods sake! TERRIBLE! FOREVER was weird but IMO a lot better than RETURNS. FOREVER still cant hold a candle to BEGINS though. B&R was, well, you know, embarrassing. BEGINS was AWESOME! A REAL movie with REAL characters and fantastic story telling! TDK will no doubt be the best Batman movie of all time. Until , of course, the genius Nolan makes the 3rd film (with the Riddler!) KEEP IT REAL!
Denzel Washington shoulda been Harvey Dent
by Royston Lodge
Jun 28th, 2008
09:32:43 PM
Ok, I know this isn't supposed to be in the same continuity as Tim Burton's Batman, or Paul Dini's animated adventures, but I'd be much happier if Nolan had kept the tidbit of a black Two-Face, plus Denzel Washington would be a FRICKIN' KICK-ASS Two-Face. Aaron Eckhart is too much of a plain vanilla forgettable actor.
Why it's so hard to take Heat seriously.
by Royston Lodge
Jun 28th, 2008
09:35:47 PM
Three words: Val Kilmer's hair. ;-)
Heat Sucks??
by jingle_balls
Jun 28th, 2008
10:10:20 PM
Got to be kidding me there. One of the best movies that includes multiple characters that are not sacrificed for the story. People talk about too many villians in Spiderman 3 etc but HEat shows that under talented cast and crew, it can work. As for TDK, August cant come quick enough. Everyone else gets to see it in July. D'oh.
Batman Begins is 140 minutes so quit yer whining
by thebearovingian
Jun 28th, 2008
10:22:49 PM
OK. So. There's 60 minutes in an hour. So, 2 hours would be 120 minutes. That leaves 20 minutes, which is 1/3 of 60 minutes. So, BB is 2 & 1/3 hours long. BUT nobody says 2 & 1/3 hours long SO... BB is 2 hours and 20 minutes long. TDK is rumored to be 152 minutes long (2 hours and 32 minutes, roughly 2 & 1/2 hours), which is only 12 minutes longer than BB. And your brain (maybe even your pecker) will be exploding from those 12 extra minutes of awesomeness including the credits for the assistant to the assistant of the assistant to Christopher Nolan.

Give in to The Dark Knight! Let it rule your soul!

Batzilla
by thebearovingian
Jun 28th, 2008
10:26:46 PM
I read your post and I thank you for your contribution to this TB.

Long live The Dark Knight!

I don't understand the HEAT HATE on here
by That 70s Venom
Jun 28th, 2008
11:30:57 PM
WTF is up with all these people hating on Michael Mann's HEAT? I thought it was a pretty fuckin good movie. What exactly is there to NOT like about it? I honestly want to know why you folks are talkin shit on it. I mean... DeNiro and Pacino were fuckin unplugged in that shit. And even Kilmer was good too.
Heat is awesome,
by Stevie Grant
Jun 29th, 2008
12:10:14 AM
and we need more movies like it.
Aliens
by Stevie Grant
Jun 29th, 2008
12:11:37 AM
was a damn good film as well.
Holy Shit
by odo19
Jun 29th, 2008
01:37:24 AM
Anyone who did'nt get a chance to see the 12 IESB clips needs to do themselves a favor and check it out on youtube. Fucking awesomeness in every frame. Nolan is a fucking God. BB rocked and so will this.
IESB?
by That 70s Venom
Jun 29th, 2008
01:47:02 AM
wtf does IESB stand for? where the fuck are all these new acronyms coming from?
BTW I agree with poeticwarrioIV to an extent
by That 70s Venom
Jun 29th, 2008
01:47:53 AM
but not entirely. Batman Begins had good and bad shit about it, but I thought it had more good than bad.
And ya it was a bit pretentious
by That 70s Venom
Jun 29th, 2008
01:48:32 AM
I noticed that too.
A serious question, if anyone's left here...
by Iowa Snot Client
Jun 29th, 2008
07:04:40 AM
I sincerely worry about this movie fucking up some 10-year-olds*. I'm happy that Nolan's made this film his way, but then I see the cereal ads on TV with an 8 year old playing with his little dead Heath Ledger bobblehead. (Like the Frank Booth plushie I got in my cereal, with ActionGrip nitrous tank!) This sure doesn't sound like a film this kid should be seeing. (*And yes, I do know Harry "I can't wait for this movie to fuck up little kids!" Knowles would disagree.) I'm just sayin', I hope parents screen this bad boy first.
These reviews are all well and good, but...
by Johnno
Jun 29th, 2008
09:38:00 AM
They they think it was 非常に奇妙な? That's the real question...
In a cosmic shift, I agree a lot w/ Memories
by crankyoldguy
Jun 29th, 2008
10:53:40 AM
It's evident TDK is not for kids; My little boy wants to see it and I attempted to explain the Joker is VERY evil, brutal and B-A-D and it will scare him and is not appropriate for little children. "You can cover my eyes" at the bad parts." I shook my head and looked at my wife, later telling her we have to work on letting him down. He saw Batman Begins at home on video, but it would've been too much in a theater for him then, just as I think TDK would be now though he's a a couple of years older. The film should not be cut down, censored, etc. And Heat was a good film (not a masterpiece in my book, but goo - can we agree to diverge on perspectives here?). On the other hand, I though Transformers was great for 5 to 10 year olds especially. I do not know if M of M is parent at all (I don't think so).
Good points crankyoldguy.
by mrfan
Jun 29th, 2008
11:07:51 AM
1) Don't think TDK is going to be good for kids. Just don't take them. Period. Also, don't dare cut it down in any shape or form. 2) Heat was one hell of a good movie. Not the greatest. But Al and Robert gave some incredible performances. Mann did some fantastic work. 3) Also thought Transformers was a good kids flick.
Really, little kids don't notice those jokes
by crankyoldguy
Jun 29th, 2008
01:17:27 PM
M of M, I don't want to get into a flame war with someone who has no child; you're certainly entitled to your opinion, but until you wear those parent shoes...you really can't understand all the variables. I thought I knew when I was childless and I did not (My wife had a pompous, thinks-she-knows it all mid-30s friend who constantly tries to give me parenting directives when she's been over our home and I can't stand her anymore - I head upstairs when she's over now. Like some idiot is ever going to fuck her, let alone have kids with her. Plus she's a fat tub, but it's not even the fat part that's off-putting, it's her shrill bitch of a personality, ending all arguments with "whatever." ). Anyway, it's like some stuff in Shrek, etc. Obviously, you beyond-hated Transformers. But those teen hormones and wank jokes go unperceived by younger ones, really, they do. Interesting you mentioned it; I actually tried to show him some old VHS last year that included Secret of Nihm. "Daddy, this is boring." And sorry, you can't argue with five year old to "make" them watch it. It's on to something else. And last year, one friend took his sons, 6 and 9 to Transformers and the 6 year old called it the greatest day of his life. You can attack that all you want, but a child's view is a child's view and it should not be messed with. The worst thing you could ever do is tell a young child in that regard, is tell him/her they are wrong. This is not equivocal to things in school and so on. If they think it's the greatest thing let them. That's what you should understand. Every "children's"/"family" film you think is great may not be for a particular child.. I tried Iron Giant when he was only 4 and it didn't click; last year, he got it and liked it. Also, I'm not a Bay apologist in the least - I hate Pearl Harbor (rented, shut off halfway) and only stuck with Armageddon because of Bruce Willis (and that Diane "hack" Warren song? Perhaps the worst thing Aerosmith has ever, ever done.) You are right about education coming in all forms. My boy has spouted off stuff and I go, "where'd you hear that?" One of the answers was Scooby-Doo. Another was Justice League. Yeah, so anything can expand a child's education and open their eyes to new possiblities. When I was around 6, I sure as hell didn't have "wormhole" in my vocabulary (Most adults didn't then, either). My kids does. All this said, I'm going to keep him from Dark Knight in a theater, though will still give him the Bat action figure already bought at Target before speculators for ebay cleaned out the section.
Want to make a convincing argument?
by jawsfan
Jun 29th, 2008
01:27:50 PM
Then start by proofreading your posts before you submit them. There used to be a time when we could dismiss poor grammar, spelling, punctuation, and writing style as simply the failure to proofread or perhaps the necessity of speed-typing to make a quick response. Even if the post was filled with errors and was a muddled mess, the poster would get the benefit of the doubt that he or she knew proper English but sped through the typing process to quickly. Those days are long gone, however. LONG gone. Nowadays, we can no longer assume the writer has any compositional or language skills at all. Poorly educated? Maybe. Properly educated but just doesn't give a fuck if they look stupid or not? Perhaps. Borderline illiterate? I suspect so. Combination of the three? Likely. Many of you (aside from the flamers and poo-slingers) have some interesting thoughts to share, but they are buried under woefully bad English grammar, spelling, etc that undermines your credibility. Didn't anyone here make it past 4th grade English class? Many of you should feel very fortunate that job applications don't include essay questions, because if they did you' d all be working in fast food for the rest of your lives. Out in the "real world" or in message boards like this or numerous others, I read hateful and smart-ass criticism of non-English who innocently mangle the English language in their posts. Well guess what? English isn't their mother tongue, so they can be excused for making mistakes. English IS, however, YOUR mother tongue, yet too many of you wield your sabre of illiteracy as if it were a virtue. It's not. No matter how eloquent you try to be in your post - no matter how valid or interesting a point you try to make - if your English is bad then you are to be dismissed as unintelligent. Be as defensive as you like in your retorts to this, but it won't change the fact that the world will perceive you in a negative light. Throw shit my way all you want. It is easier for me to wash that off than it is for you to fix being illiterate. You have the tough road to hoe, not me.
You Guys Want Spoilers?
by jesusne0
Jun 29th, 2008
01:29:45 PM
You Can't Handle The Spoilers
I'm taking my 13 yr. old sis and my 10 yr. old bro at the IMAX
by jesusne0
Jun 29th, 2008
01:43:50 PM
I'm Probably going to hell
See, M of M, we CAN have a dialogue
by crankyoldguy
Jun 29th, 2008
01:52:43 PM
And I can take the high road and ignore attacks on parenting and choices of films. I could take a lot of cheap shots, but will not...today. Now your last post made some valid points about kids seeing more then they reach pre-teen, but I wouldn't quite say everything. My sister's boy is very bright 12 soon to be 13 and she saw a screening already and doesn't want him seeing it; her decision as a parent. It's not your place or my place even as an uncle to argue with that. Also, Trainspotting is a powerful anti-drug film as well, though it takes a while to get there and more so, I think it's for a kid who's 16 or so, not 12. Since I am, ahem, older, my parents took me to a Bond film in the 60s and it was double-bill (oh, those good old days - people sat through two features, yes!) with a Michael Caine far more realistic spy thriller that made an incredible impression on me at 8-9 years old, whatever I was then. So you're right in many respects about that.
Want to make a convincing argument?
by DustinBones
Jun 29th, 2008
02:07:43 PM
Even if the post was filled with errors and was a muddled mess, the poster would get the benefit of the doubt that he or she knew proper English but sped through the typing process to quickly. You just wrote an entire rant about spelling & grammar yet you can't even use the word too correctly in a sentence. That's what "Farkers" call a "Rotzky".
Moriarty has seen TDK.
by Mr. Nice Gaius
Jun 29th, 2008
02:46:09 PM
Although his official review is still under the embargo, he has offered up some tasty nuggets. He warns against the growing pre-release hyperbole. But he says that it's a fierce, dark, and scary film. So much, in fact, he can't believe it got a PG-13.
Kids & Movies
by DustinBones
Jun 29th, 2008
02:54:27 PM
I grew up going to movies like The Outlaw Josie Wales one weekend, then I would see Herbie the Lovebug the next weekend. I saw Jaws in the theatre (didn't really think it was that scary or gruesome, as people around me were screaming)I also watched quite a few foreign films in my youth. Not every kid has the mindframe, attention span, or interest to see just any movie. Point is I was probably around 8 when I saw "The Car" in the theater, my mother overheard me describing the movie to my friend and wondered what the hell I was watching. So me, my mom & the neighbor went to see it (my 2nd time), we all had the same reactions at the same time to the the movie. Some kids get that it's just entertainment, and I thank God (& my family) that I was pretty much allowed to see whatever movie looked good to me. I look at my friends & their taste in movies and I do feel like my childhood made a huge difference in our widely different preferences. I trend to more dramatic, dark, violent movies: La Haine, City of God, Children of Men. But I will also watch movies like The Host & Monster Squad. My friends prefer Will Farrell, Ben Stiller, etc. type movies, I truly don't find those movies funny. So the only thing to do is expose your kids to all kinds of movies: watch the Iron Giant, and if the kids can watch Unforgiven, and understand that violence comes with a price then you are doing that kid a huge favor. Expand their horizons there is an entire world of film out there. Teach them what is out there, Seven Samurai, Die Hard, The Warriors, Escape from New York, etc., Just don't throw any old piece of crap in the DVD player to bide the time.
jawsfan
by WickedJester
Jun 29th, 2008
04:24:45 PM
When you are going to go into a rant about grammar, spelling, etc. it is important to use the right form of the word 'to'. However, maybe you were doing "the typing process to quickly."
Dustinbones and Nice Gaius
by WickedJester
Jun 29th, 2008
04:59:13 PM
Didn't see you got to jawsfan first, sorry about the dupe grammar/spelling nazism.

MNG, could you ellaborate on the pre-release hyperbole warning?
as I go and put 2 ls in elaborate lol...
by WickedJester
Jun 29th, 2008
05:13:50 PM
About takin' the kids...
by Iowa Snot Client
Jun 29th, 2008
05:29:32 PM
Just to clarify, I never suggested anyone "recut" or censor the movie. It's just that the TV spots for the toy tie-ins are so, erm, innocent. "Take that, Joker! Darn, you got me!" No mention of a knife fetish or anything. I'm kinda hoping all the coverage around Ledger clued people in to the tone of this film and the appropriate audience.
WickedJester
by Mr. Nice Gaius
Jun 29th, 2008
06:18:42 PM
No problem. Regarding the pre-release hyperbole, apparently there have been some entertainment reporters/bloggers who have seen a screening and likened the movie to GODFATHER 2 or EMPIRE STRIKES BACK. Moriarty advised against buying into that as you will probably set yourself up for disappointment. That being said, he still seemed VERY impressed.
TomBodet
by Mr. Nice Gaius
Jun 29th, 2008
06:44:07 PM
What's up you crazy bastard?
I think kids should be scared
by jesusne0
Jun 29th, 2008
07:00:31 PM
I remember being nine when I saw the original Matrix. How scary was that moment where Neo got trapped in the liquid. It was scary but it was one of the many reasons why the film was so memorable. LOTR: FOTR or the end of Raiders are a few great examples. For everyone to feel the ultimate experience one has to trigger all sorts of emotions. what better than at a young age? A state in which our emotions are the most vulnerable. I know it sounds harsh but in the end it makes the product more satisfying.
Nicholson is a great Joker but...
by disfigurehead
Jun 29th, 2008
07:31:24 PM
I want to see something new, like a psychotic Joker. It looks like we get our wish. I have been wanting to see this ever since Heath Ledger was cast. I can't wait to see it.
Kevin Smith saw Dark Knight
by mpfanatic
Jun 29th, 2008
07:33:08 PM
Here is what he said: Courtesy of Peter Sciretta over at SlashFilm.com, I caught an early screening of "The Dark Knight" yesterday evening.Without giving anything away, this is an epic film (and trust me: based on the sheer size and scope of the visuals and storytelling, that's not an overstatement). It's the "Godfather II" of comic book films and three times more earnest than "Batman Begins" (and fuck, was that an earnest film). Easily the most adult comic book film ever made. Heath Ledger didn't so much give a performance as he disappeared completely into the role; I know I'm not the first to suggest this, but he'll likely get at least an Oscar nod (if not the win) for Best Supporting Actor. Fucking flick's nearly three hours long and only leaves you wanting more (in a great way). I can't imagine anyone being disappointed by it. Nolan and crew have created something close to a masterpiece.
If only Heath Ledger had lived...
by Iowa Snot Client
Jun 29th, 2008
07:43:03 PM
So too would my dream of Paul WS Anderson directing "Joker vs IT" circa 2020.
To Dustin Bones and Wicked Jester
by jawsfan
Jun 29th, 2008
10:29:46 PM
Yeah, you got me. Good catch. I certainly do know the difference between "to" and "too", but I typed too quickly. I'm a big fan of irony, too, so in this case it isn't lost on me. I stand by my original point, however, and will pardon myself for the typo as I gladly pardon anyone else of said offense when it is obvious the typo was a simple error and not evidence of seemingly willful ignorance.
Mori Review Going Up Tonight
by Saluki
Jun 29th, 2008
11:02:52 PM
FYI
Why do you need acknowledgement of...
by robertplant
Jun 30th, 2008
02:02:09 AM
...a fake fucking universe in a fake fucking movie??? Oh yeah. You saw Iron Man and Hulk. WAY AFTER DC STARTED THESE FILMS. DC has to reformat their films because you can't suspend your imagination THAT MUCH MORE THAT BATMAN AND SUPERMAN MUUUUUST COEXIST IN THE SAME FILM-VERSE? Fuck you fags.
Funny stuff
by Lost Jarv
Jun 30th, 2008
05:08:47 AM
"Do you spell moron with 3 m's in Oporto?" I fucking ruined my monitor with that.

And Memories, could you be a bigger cunt. Not content with telling everyone what they should think regarding movies, you've now gone on to tell people what and how they should parent. Despite the fact (and this is something we should all thank the lord for) that you haven't spawned yourself.

Having said that- any British parent out there- DON'T TAKE YOUR CHILDREN TO THIS. Because I'm selfish and might be in the cinema at the same time. I'll let you know when you can.

"Do they spell 'Moron' with one M or three in Oporto"
by DocPazuzu
Jun 30th, 2008
07:43:10 AM
Funniest post of the week. Bodet, you have won the internets and taken the field!
Yes Batman Begins was too long as well
by m_prevette
Jun 30th, 2008
12:11:37 PM
....as it was a poorly written and shot mess...it wasn't even a case of there being a good movie in there once the padding is carved away. The movie was bad. Bad. Bale's strangled Bat Voice was hilarious, Katie was a horrid choice, the bad guys were poorly written...there was just so much wrong with it. TDK might be an improvement...God knows it can't be much worse. Yeah a good movie is never too long, but a misguided misfire like Bats Begins was torture 140 minutes. Good Lord these people have never heard of an economy of storytelling.
Cat women
by djmeuxic53
Sep 23rd, 2009
01:11:45 PM
Did you guys hear the part when fox was saying his new suit would be fine against Cats!
try another Batman thread
by just pillow talk
Sep 23rd, 2009
01:19:27 PM
This one was pronounced dead on 6/30/08.
Orcus is trying to sleep here
by Orcus
Sep 24th, 2009
07:57:22 AM
What JPT said, try another thread
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