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Flint's Got An Awesome New Fortress-House-Thing On This Weekend's STAR TREK REMASTERED!!

must resist... by bobjustbob	Jun 19th, 2008 09:42:48 AM
Looks good.
I don't seea big difference by EyeofPolyphemus	Jun 19th, 2008 09:50:26 AM
Why bother?
nice work on this one by ArcadianDS	Jun 19th, 2008 10:01:08 AM
that original shot, when viewed in HD, looks like something your kid would stick to a refrigerator door. This one shot is the classic example of why this update needed to be done in order to sell HD episodes.
If Only by Geekgasm	Jun 19th, 2008 10:07:22 AM
the rest of the remastered stuff had been as consistently excellent as Max's digital mattes. There's not been a stinker in the bunch.
Naboo? by alfiemoon	Jun 19th, 2008 10:20:16 AM
Very reminiscent of Naboo from Episode I. Nice shot though.
Great! by PowerRing	Jun 19th, 2008 10:34:47 AM
I always liked that episode. Even small touches like that enhance the hell out of it. NBC cut funding for TOS making already hokey mattes and effects worse. This elevates the whole episode!
I Grok Spock! by Kentucky Colonel	Jun 19th, 2008 11:07:18 AM
You do, too. Admit it!
There can be only one! by Gislef_crow	Jun 19th, 2008 11:18:28 AM
Oh, right, the Highlander episode. Along with the hot robot chick that Kirk acts like an idiot and hits on as his crew is dying of some space illness. And Robby the Robot's mentally handicapped cousin. Good times.
Dinotopia by Jonas Grumpy	Jun 19th, 2008 11:58:15 AM
That's what I'm thinking. The original book(s), that is. Not the TV miniseries.
Naboo! by ZTR421	Jun 19th, 2008 12:07:23 PM
Oh damn, someone else said that.
Gorgeous !!!!!! by picardsucks	Jun 19th, 2008 12:12:23 PM
Although alot of the effects work has been woefully inconsistent and underwhelming (save standouts like Space Seed, Doomsday Machine, Mirror Mirror and Charlie X) the matte work has been outstanding!!! Plus in this episode Kirk fucks a hot android chick.
Wow, Flints got some cash huh? by skydemon	Jun 19th, 2008 01:03:26 PM
That's a nice place. Look, there's even a little dome top observatory. Must be a pretty good size scope Flint's got in there. You know, Flint should have taken some of his big bucks and built himself a holodeck, instead of messing around with all that android frustration.
Dance with Hot Robot Chick... by EriamJH	Jun 19th, 2008 01:04:10 PM
...is the reason a certain Shat has bought up and burned all blooper footage from that episode, where he sports a woodie from the dancing scene. True Story! (I read it. It was on the internet. I wrote it down, then I read it.)
Naboo! by Larry Sellers	Jun 19th, 2008 01:16:13 PM
And who said Dinotopia? I always thought Naboo looked familiar.
Dance with Hot Robot Chick by shran	Jun 19th, 2008 01:16:23 PM
Pictures or it didn't happen. I can't read, so don't try to make me. I can believe Shatner achieved chub because I'm sportin' just thinking about her. I always thought the old matte painting wasn't too bad when you consider the state of technology when it was aired. Hi Def in the sixties was what you got from standing too close to the speakers at Woodstock.
Merrick you should put hi-def in quotes by half vader	Jun 19th, 2008 01:58:39 PM
As the 720 rez you get on xbox live is only HALF the full 1080 resolution of HD. HALF. Sure that's a bit anal, but this IS a trek tb after all.
Original is better by secretcylon	Jun 19th, 2008 02:02:02 PM
More inspiring. New one just looks like Naboo. I like how the original building looks ancient, a lot of history there. The new one just says "hey look what we can do with a computer!" I also like that bright star/planet in the sky in the original.
I like the perspective... by PowerRing	Jun 19th, 2008 02:58:04 PM
The original's perpective (large planet in background) is a cooler view. NORMALLY, they just enhance the exitsing background matte and make it 3d, vs totally changing it. I agree, they should have just reconstructed the original.
Hi-Def by Toonol	Jun 19th, 2008 03:08:51 PM
If you're going to be anal, at least be correct. High definition is the correct term to use for 480p/i, 720p/i, and 1080p/i. The 360's resolution is neither the best nor the worst HD. And also, 720 isn't half of 1080.
Looks like MYST by YotzVonFrelnik	Jun 19th, 2008 03:27:50 PM
Which ain't a bad thing, but makes me want to play an adventure game.
The problem with the original by BizarroJerry	Jun 19th, 2008 04:03:41 PM
The issue with keeping the original is that it was all ready used in The Cage/The Menagerie. It makes sense to replace it. And it still has a similar look.
Re-used backgrounds/footage by PowerRing	Jun 19th, 2008 04:23:35 PM
That is another byproduct of remastering. That is, eliminated the budget-warranted re-use of the same mattes, props or footage from other episodes. Making the new background a different perspective makes sense.
secretcylon by Geekgasm	Jun 19th, 2008 06:33:03 PM
The original shot still looks great ... in "The Cage" and in "The Menagerie", which is what the matte was originally painted for, so feel free to watch it in those shows. It was a cost-cutting re-use in this episode and thus ripe for replacening - and thus they replacended it. And it looks like Naboo because Naboo was based on Italian Renaissance arcitecture, and Flint happened to have been Michaelangelo.
720p IS half of 1080p by half vader	Jun 19th, 2008 08:02:43 PM
That was sorta my point - I think labelling lower rez stuff like 480 and 720 as high-def is disingenuous (with the 480 being a bit of a joke). The lower-end stuff gets the 'high-def' moniker too, and Joe Blow in the street thinks they're getting the best quality when they're actually getting half or less. You're right though, I didn't write the p for progressive. But I'm right too. 1280 x 720 (720p) is 921,600 pixels. 1020 x 1080 (1080p) is 2,073,600 pixels. TWICE the picture info (actually 2.25 times). And I'm not talking 1080i, either. Sorry for not being anal enough.
Great episode! by Ingeld	Jun 19th, 2008 08:57:58 PM
It many ways it is ST version of Shakespeare's The Tempest. (As as Forbidden Planet). I always found it extremely interesting that Flint mentions in the long list of famous people that he was--that he was Lazarus, implying that Christ really didn't raise his friend from the dead as in the Gospels.
Geekgasm by secretcylon	Jun 19th, 2008 10:25:50 PM
I hear ya, I hear ya. I was just flinch reacting. I admit my OS is very sketchy at best, and anything that reminds me of Naboo makes me queasy and shudder like I just tasted something real bitter.
Toonol -> HD Specs by D_T	Jun 20th, 2008 04:06:05 AM
480i/480p (720x480) has never been designated as HD - I have no idea why you'd lump that SD spec in with proper HD (720 or more horizontal). There has also never been a 720i broadcast spec either (all broadcast 720 is progressive). Side note: half vader's total pixel comparo is correct, but he has a type in that 1080 is 1920 vertical (not 1020). FWIW, 720P still looks fantastic (some broadcasts use this spec - Fox, ESPN - and are indiscernible from 1080 broadcast - in fact they're preferred for high speed content like sports).
typo on typo by D_T	Jun 20th, 2008 04:08:07 AM
Serves me right for posting at ~5am :^)
Rayna wasnot the hottest TOS android babe... by Bob Loblaw Law Blog	Jun 20th, 2008 04:47:01 AM
I mean, yeah, she was hot, definitely... But, Andrea from "What Little Girls Are Made Of" (you know, the episode with Ted Cassiday, aka "Lurch" from The Addams Family) is by far the hottest of all robotic babes, perhaps ever. Hell... Sherry Jackson might be the hottest Star Trek guest star of all time. I have no idea how Bill Thiess got her costume past the censors back when that episode aired in 1966. http://tinyurl.com/5oakop http://tinyurl.com/6xjwwj http://tinyurl.com/5zq8or
Sorry... by Bob Loblaw Law Blog	Jun 20th, 2008 04:48:15 AM
The episode is actually titled "What Are Little Girls Made Of?" My apologies.
WHat about Barbara Bouchet in By Any Other Name? by Red Giant	Jun 20th, 2008 06:23:02 PM
Very close in hotness to Sherry Jackson in all aspects, but I don't mind conceding Sherry as #1.
Looks like a video game cut scene.... by SG7	Jun 20th, 2008 08:42:11 PM
...many of the remastered shots feel very rushed and bland IMHO.
With the remastered shots... by PowerRing	Jun 20th, 2008 09:36:58 PM
They seem to have a corporate policy not to get "too real" or go overboard. They are self-limiting so that the effects are supposed to fit in. This philosophy might save time and money, but I'd say go for it. Make everything as photo real as possible. Get rid of the clunky, styrofoam looking sets and flat matte paintings. Make it look like 2008 effects all the way.
DarkHawke:Marianna Hill's.. by MGTHEDJ	Jun 21st, 2008 12:41:00 PM
biggest role other than Star Trek is Fredo's wife in the Godfather films. She doesn't even look the same!!! But Sherry Jackson is the Hottest! Trek-babe! EVER!-----later------m
The reason it looks like Naboo AND Dinotopia..... by Rameses	Jun 21st, 2008 05:19:02 PM
is that George totally ripped off , the Dinotopia series of books.On the day P.Menace came out , the writer /artist of Dinotopia , received a load of phonecalls from friends , telling him that he'd been ripped.After seeing the film , he was talking about legal action against George.I don't know if he was payed off or something , but it didn;t seem to go any further.But the naboo scenes are blatently lifted.Waterfalls , golden domed venice like buildings and flower stewn processions with dinosaurs !!Ironically Lucas did it better than the actuall Dinotopia miniseries!As for this update , I dunno..the lighting could be so much better {it looks wayyy too flat} and at that distance the detailing should be a lot softer.Once again the original matte looks more real in many respects .
I'd rather watch remastered TOS... by PowerRing	Jun 22nd, 2008 10:36:09 AM
Than any of the star wars 1/2/3 movies. Those were a steaming pile of sith. Bad acting, bad dialog and characters that were a pile of Dooku.
Why the hell would Flint build either? by Ingeld	Jun 22nd, 2008 12:34:59 PM
For one person and two robots? Also, genious that he is and even though it is the 24th century, how the hell did he build it?

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