I'll be waiting for the DVD rental on this one

I assume the movie will be awful and much much less than Ray deserves

However, it may be saved if for no good reason Ray yells "THIRTEEN!!!!" in the middle of a fight scene.

Ok maybe Under Siege but that's only because that chick in the cakes tits

But, follow my simple suggestions, and they could.

NEGATIVES 1.I thought the lighting seemed way over the top. Full of neons and uber bright colors that just dont fit in the palette of Frank's Castle's world. I would go back and desaturate the colors throughout to feel very Bradstreet like (nice sign btw).

2.I am totally not buying the shot of the spinning acrobatics...just not Punisher's style. That shot feels stolen from Boondock Saints...where it worked because they were fuckups. Frank Castle isn't a fuckup. Thus it feels out of place.

POSITIVES 1. Really liked the costume. It feels appropriately armor based and still tactical. The voice also felt very intense. Maybe too much but we will see...

2. Alot of the action felt viceral and raw, like the fight scenes in Green Street Hooligans. Well played. I hope its not wirefu-ish {I'm looking at you chandelier) and very down to Earth and mean.

Either way there is no way this can be worse than the first 2 incarnations...no way possible.

Lexi, you have some work to do but it feels like there is potential for greatness or a flop...its up to you.

(Spaces and all that)

Oh and I don't think you can put this on the same level as Rambo.

Man when you are selling an action movie, especially one with a no-name star, you need to have some serious money shots in it. Not some dude swinging from a chandelier firing guns. Sigh.

If you dont have the budget for Die-Hard-level money shots, then I woulda gone with more grit, less operatic theme music (reminded me of the Hitman trailers). Have some cool-ass shots of bodies flying out a window and down onto a moving truck or something where you hear the crunch of bones breaking. Maybe a close up of Frank putting his gun to a goons's face, then a cut to black as you hear the gun-shot. You know Frank's a take-no-prisoners bad-ass who will kill the bad guys in cold blood, unlike Batman or Spidey. Whatever, I think they blew their chance with this trailer.

Steven Seagal's contribution to the art of aikido is that he made it, for a time, globally popular due to his movies.

As far as who would win, Seagal vs Chan vs Li, is like saying who would win Godzilla or King Kong. It's all movies. All I know is those UFC MMA guys are some brutal motherfuckers I'd never want to meet in a closed in cage...

with that being said,I gotta hand it to the poster (whinybitch I think) who reminded me of Jane's Castle breag up a marraige in a act movie.funniest comment thus far.As for the guy who calls women "Bleeders" it's obvs that someone is not getting laid atleast by a female. Where's Vern-Captain-save-a-Ho when you need him?(Inside joke for those in the know.)

If The Slavers is that good then it can stand by itself, it doesn't need some shrill fantard comparing it to McCarthy.

Oh I forgot, you're the same dick that reckoned Smallville > The Godfather.

Messi- I call you a fanboy because that is what you are- you have a minority obsession that you push and push and push with the most pathetic WAAAAAAAH posts, and worse you will not accept/ recognise any other fucking argument especially one that points out how fucking stupid you are being. This is the internet- give me a reference to back up your laughable claim and I'll stand down. Until then, fuck you fanboy.

I don't give a fuck what his particular subject of choice is, I object to the hypocrisy. I also object to his sweeping generalisations, moronic attitude and pathetic need for validation.

To be fair, I did take the piss out of the Sinestro Corps War- but I did it to bait him, and if it is good then I'll happily say so.

Give me a link for the McCarthy comparison, and I'll let this one go as well.

I won't read either story, because I do not have enough interest to go out of my way to buy them.

And before you claim it is me being dismissive and ignorant- my argument is not that his obsession is good, it is that he is a shrill fanboy fucktard with a hypocritical streak a mile wide.

Nice climbdown on the threat of violence. It doesn't make you look like less of a prick.

I'll get bored of crushing his pathetic arguments at some point.

The people complaining about no Jigsaw and no Microchip I guess you guys aren't following the production closely or spent a few seconds to go to IMDB.com and look at the cast list. Heck they even have The Punisher Task Force in this!

Ray Stevenson... if you haven't seen ROME I suggest you check it out and stop watching whatever bullshit you are watching now... LOST... HEROES...NIP/TUCK. Pay close attention to Ray Stevenson as Titus Pullo and bow to his awesomeness and tell me he wasn't perfectly cast. In the photos and footage we've seen, he looks like he walked out of a Bradstreet drawing. And it sucks to be you that the image of a guy with slicked back hair and a gun = Steven Seagal. It doesn't for me, and I've seen most of his movies. In the theater, even.

I agree with Vern, it's about time we get more low budget action movies, I don't want to see a 200 million dollar Punisher movie anyway. I'm neutral with this director, but at least she's young, hungry and indie and not Brett Ratner or Stephen Sommers.

Still worried about the screenplay? Well that movie you guys having been humping your pillow over, IRON MAN, well, those writers rewrote the script.

Oh, and that shot of the Punisher behind the wall with all the group of people with guns on the other? That reminded me of LEON : THE PROFESSIONAL

Anyway, enough of the B.S., hopefully 3rd time is a charm.

this movie looks horrendous, there is NO WAY I will be seeing it in theaters.

And talk about rampant misogyny and sexism. So for a female director to be taken seriously here, you have to determine whether or not she's fuckable? Nice. Lexi Stevenson would kick all of your asses and laugh while you cried for mama. Bitches.

Prossor...What the fuck? Punisher 89 was shitty. The Punisher would use KNIVES? KNIVES?!!?! NINJAS?! ! That movie was retardiculous.