Also will there be a bad guy in this one?

Perhaps you will find your way back home...

Terrence will shoot? That's pretty cool in my book.

I saw the actual "movie". Or should I say, the chimp demonstration. Well, afair, there also were many colors (e.g. final spinning b/w wheel just seconds before the finish), Speed Racer sliding on one wheel (which he blew up with his gadget after it was flattend just a few moments ago) over the finishing line, Inspector Detector monologue while watching the final fireworks through the lounge window, and of course, the famous scene in which fat kid runs behind the sofa and covers his eyes (because he's so thrilled about the final minutes) and that fucking chimp doing the very same -- just like it does the whole movie long.

So, I saw it, I hated it and now and then I comment on it when a dickhead comes along and tries to persuade those who didn't see it yet that it is a good flick. Which it isn't.

Oh, and what where your thoughts about T3? You liked that even better than T2?

L-A-M-E

There's four lines if you count Ox's "Dad?" query at the end.

Iron Man demonstrates how to do a popcorn movie right.

don't you know that Platinum Dunes cruises the talkbacks, looking for stupid shit like that to make just to fucking PUNISH US ALL FOR BEING FANS?!?!?

If Shia EVER remakes IRON EAGLE there will be blood. I will fucking end his reign of awesome suckage! I WILL DRINK HIS MILKSHAKE! DRAAAAAAAAAIIINAGE! DRAAAAAAAAAAIIINAGE!!!

That little fuck. Not fit to look upon the awesomeness of Jason Gedrick, and as far as the majestic, immortal Sir Lou Gossett Jr, the second greatest mentor / drill instructor EVER (mentor #1: Pat Noriyuki Morita; DI #1: R LEe Ermey, scumbags!) is concerned - Shia is the drip of piss Lou shakes into the trough when he shakes. Lou Gossett Jr is a GOD, I TELL YOU! A GOOOOOOODDDDD!!!

DENZEL WASHINGTON for Lou Gossett Jr.

ART MALIK as David Suchet.

JOHN SCHNEIDER as Gedrick's Pa.

I could give a fuck who else is in it. Give SHAWNEE SMITH a cameo for being in the original. Mrs Spud-To-Be has spoken, beetches. IRON EAGLE IS GO!!!

for a "realistic" take on Batman, there sure are a lot of flaws.

Fiester - Keep drinking the kool aid. Amazing how so many on this site can diss people for being sucked into liking shite like SUPERMAN RETURNS, but no-one wants to be first to call foul on BB because it's Nolanm, and liking Nolan makes you feel like a knowledgable film student and shit. He may not have put a foot wrong before BB - but by God did he fuck that up. Go read the comics again - Burton nailed the tone, the look, the themes, the cast, the gadgets, the villains (especially in RETURNS) and the dialogue. Nothing else comes close to those first two.

Oh, and I second DGDB: if I wanted to watch REAL criminals doing REAL crime in the REAL world, there's the entire ouevre of Scorsese to send me to fucking sleep. Because everything after CASINO - ZZZzzzzzz......

No sense of history? He wears a brown tie!

Oh, a big hearty YES to IM2. So long as RDJ is there, I'm there with bells on. Bring on IRON MAN 12 so long as we get the Downey.

dude is hung like a licorice jelly bean....

If you haven't noticed trailers have picked up the Batman Begins score big time. I lost the hard drive that had the score on it, but its not the main theme. Its the theme during the Batmobile case scene. And if you listen to it its pretty awesome. They didn't showcase it in the movie that well, but if you blast that in your car you're gonna start speeding up. Listen to a lot of movie trailers to its in them almost as much as whatever was the most recent Aronofsky/Mansell movie came out a year before.

They think Batman Begins was stupid, flat, or boring.

you can be an idiot and not have these two qualities, but that's a surefire sign right there.

Things BATMAN FOREVER had going for it were the sleek polished photography and more yuppyish world of Gotham that was a refreshing change from the dark murky gothic world of Burton's, Val Kilmer wasn't too bad, Jim Carrey made a nice backup to Frank Gorshin, and Nicole Kidman has never been hotter in any role ever.

But TLJ's Two-Face trumps them all and brings the whole movie crashing down into bad movie history.

On that note, the BB Batmobile was an atrocity. As I've said before, BB nuked the fridge with the introduction of that thing.

Suck it, Iron Man worshipers!

Also, I'm usually desperate for both a wee and a fag by the time the film's over.

Hopefully, we will get more Iron Man flying and shooting and baching and whatnot action, plus some all new War Machine action, and (fingers crossed) Jessica Biel in some sort of shapely, hot as Hades chick robot-suit. This new female suit will, for no good reason, be wearing a bikini.

Personally, I like the socially offensive attributes of smoking. That's one of the reasons I do it. Also, it makes me look cool.

Boromir do you live in Sweeden? Is there a certain brand of Snus you buy? I want to try this nasty sounding thing now.

Don't forget that.

Says the smoker.

Judging Favreau's concern, we better hope that Marvel doesn't try to put IM2 on the all-too fast track. Otherwise, we may end up with a sequel that's not worth 10% of the original.

And if you really think that any of Burton's faux goth-camp or Schumacher's neon-fetishism is better than Nolan's BB, then you'll have to excuse me while I laugh out loud.

(And no fast-tracking. Word.)

And did I honestly see someone praising Chris "Empty from the neck up" O'Donnel as Robin up there? The Robin Storyline was excrutiating in Batman Forever, although not as bad as TLJ.

"But, if you think that Batman Begins is "one of the two best superhero movies" then I guess we'll have to agree to disagree about me being right and you being wrong."

Pompous asshole.

I'll let you off cause Burt told me to.

And Jeff- Pillows is right, you're a smug, pompous cunt. What do you like, anyway?

You really are a unique and precious little snowflake, aren't you?

So, Snowflake, what do you actually like, or do you, as is suggested by the above post, hate everything?

There have been several different takes on the character of Batman (and his foes) and each one has had a different shade and/or tonality. (I was partial to several Batman graphic novels though I have not read them in years.) I just happen to think that BATMAN BEGINS managed to create a version of Bruce Wayne that was believable and gave the film a genuine emotional center. The theme of fear (and all its implications) which ran throughout was very appropriate and tangible, too.

In my opinion, Nolan's film is smart and engaging. (It's also one of the few movies I've seen in recent years that got resounding applause at the end - much like IRON MAN.) And with Goyer out of the way, I think we're going to see an even smarter film with THE DARK KNIGHT. I expect Nolan will make the most of the themes expressed in BB. I also imagine he will continue to show us the evolution of Batman and how he becomes more and more like the character(s) of various comic lore.

"Pissboy! Oh, pissboy!"

As for the alcoholism thing ... like I said, I just don't think it'll play well in the movies. As a running storyline in a montly series of comics - great. Adds depth to the character. But in a movie where all you get is 2 hours to entertain the audience that expects some fantastic battles and some minor romance and intrigue, it won't play well at all. Think Spidey 3. Nuff said!

And you say Sam was loyal to the source material with Spidey? I liked the first two movies, but he also made changes like no web shooters and Spidey not really acting like Spidey, ie the wisecracking hero everyone loves. Oh, and the complete elimination of his pursuit of Betty Brant in the beginning, let alone the total switch out of Gwen in the Goblin storyline.

So how is this a more "true" adaption than any other comic book adaption?

I think mind-controlled penguins with rockets on their backs would have been right at home in the Bob Kane Batman stories of the 40's.

Answer: You'd go to freaking nightclubs with a chick in tow to impress other chicks then slide dance on chairs and swing from fucking chandeliers cause no other dude could do that then you'd play a little chopsticks on the old piano grand. Haven't any of you ever gotten drunk at a nightclub before?

And yep, I jumped in and insulted you. I only do that to those that throw their opinions around and seem to think it's the only one that matters.

My hypocrisy knows no bounds...

And since I'm crying so much, care to come here and wipe those tears?

Spiderman, on the other hand, like a fine soap opera, has followed the same storyline since Amazing Fantasy #15.

Spiderman, on the other hand, like a fine soap opera, has followed the same storyline since Amazing Fantasy #15.

In fact, I will say it. Underdog - Numero Uno!

Followed by

Starman: Invaders From Space (Japan - 1964)

And third, the controversial pick of

The Adventures of El Frenetico and Go Girl!

There. Refute that list if you dare!

Hey Toad wassah ... gotta run, catch you later

But that is the beauty of an opinion, it is all yours!

imbeciles.

Kidding aside, I stand by my Iron Man 2: Rise of the Fe-Male as one of the best of the TB.

Ah, screw all yous guys.

What. A. Tosser. And if you were half as smart as you think you are you would be able to see that Spiderman 3 was an affront to cinema and so bad that it actually tarnished the first 2. It certainly is not as good as Ang Lee's Hulk- which isn't very good either.

Got it, chuckles?

What happened to that Die Hard thread?

It seems to not be in his best interest to make a big showy villainy appearance when the evidence against him wasn't necessarily that airtight.