i have this (unfounded) optimistic idea that he will pull a Pete Jackson out of his ass and do this story justice, finally.

i have put way too much thought into this already.

i'm desperately trying to not get my hopes up.

"fear is the mind-killer" and "thou shall not disfigure the soul" and all that.

i hope Berg knows what he's getting into here. this is a story as big as Lord of the Rings with just as devoted a fan base.

seriously, dude, you had best do this justice.

power breeds power, power corrupts, thousands of years later, power = bad, so on and so on.

and did folks not like 30 Days of Night? i didn't see it, but it looked pretty faithful to the book.

true: SciFi did it best, so far.

it could, and probably should, be made into three films. maybe even recast Paul for the later events. or just have everyone agree to make them 5 or 6 years later.

as if anyone has that kind of forethought.

i absolutely agree with your "pissed off republicans" remark. this thing is about fucking Iraq/Saudi/the Mid East. spice = oil. "he who can destroy a thing, controls it," that shit is fucking dead on.

and its about a bunch of natives, in little groups, forming an army (of, lets just out and say it, Terrorists) and revolting against a foreign power thats come in to exploit them. that, too, is dead on.

its a ballsy move, to make this now. and if he does indeed do it "right," its gonna take even bigger balls.

fingers crossed.

that would be bad ass.

Best to leave it as it is I reckon

no argument about that.

as well as the mind altering qualities of the spice, which leads into another reason this isn't exactly meant for the masses: rampant drug use = heightened awareness.

that should go over really well.

if your Wheel of Time shit makes it before my Song of Ice and Fire does, i'll be pissed.

but yeah, the cast was pretty damn good. Feyd was a wasted character, due to his utter lack of build up/ introduction, but Sting was good in the role.

no, wait, thats not true. i think you just have an overinflated idea of yourself and like boosting your ego online.

did you come up with the title or something?

whatever.

no beef needed.

maybe he got shot n da face, like my boy Fiddy.

The mini-series was ok and Lynch's work has a warm spot in my heart regardless of some of weaker spots.

My question is this: we will ever get the full version of Lynch's work? They showed an 'extended cut' featuring a scene harvesting "The Water of Life" but no more. Lynch's version was supposedly around 4 hours long, if not longer, and very likely filled in some of the dryer spots of the original film. I've heard different reasons over the years: rights, disowning creators, etc, but the geek in me still wants my fully realized Lynch 4 hour version. And yes, Lynch PERECTLY nailed the tone and atmosphere of the books.

To me, the failings of the movie Dune are likely more related to the actual process of translating the story to screen. How can you portray a little girl with the life-memories of generations of Bene-Geserit witches making her not just 'adult in a child's body' but making her almost a demi-god in terms of power and knowledge...again all in the body of a 7 year old girl. Doing that on film without it becoming silly is a herculean task. I believe Lynch is capable even if not entirely successful but maybe that extra footage would further his translation.

With that idea in mind, and if it's true, then Lynch must do Ender's Game.

But, regardless, if you truly have a problem with Quantum of Solace as a title then I've got one word for you: OCTOPUSSY!!!!!!!!!

I was pointing out how people are clipping on 'Quantum of Solace' when this franchise has had some whopper titles in the past. I mean how is "Golden Gun" not a giant golden COCK reference? And who the fuck uses "Her Majesty's Secret Service" as a title besides madmen?

And while I'm at it...let's talk about QoS...do YOU have a problem with solace? How about quanta? Or even a single quantum? Sure it's egghead speak but I like the title for some reason.

And Octopi (octopusses?) are one of the most amazing creatures on the Earth...very smart and just their camouflaging abilities alone are breath taking. There's footage out there now that looks fake it is so amazing (youtube it if you're curious). And cephalopods very likely one of the smartest animals on the planet (amazing problem solvers like opening jars...I've seen that footage and it's amazing).

Otherwise that was pretty funny.

As for Dune being filmable...I think its entirely possible to present a 3 hour Dune film. In a nutshell, the immediate story of Dune is the demise of a royal family at the hands of an evil Baron and corrupt Emperor, and the surviving heir's quest to destroy the baron and depose the emperor. Through it all we see the evolution of Paul from child, to man, to a superman. That's it, boys and girls, and its nothing more complicated than that. Oh sure, there is the backdrop of Dune, where we see how the fremen are united into a single nation to bring the power of the galaxy, spice, into their hands, but again, this isn't that difficult to depict. As for all that internal dialogue...well, just turn the important parts into actual dialogue and we're done.

The fact is that the original Dune was only 2 hours long and spent too much time in the opening and not enough time on the actual plot. We don't need to Caladan; all of those scenes could have just as easily played on Arakis. The film itself could have opened with the arrival of the Atreides.

The characters of Thufer and Duncan, while important in a literary, anecdotal sense, should be little more than window dressing. I mean, really, in a film version, does the head of security for a royal family that doesnt survive past the first act really require more than two or three lines? If you combine introduction with the downfall of the family, you're going to cut a lot of the fat and be able to retain a lean, mean first act, which is something Lynch's Dune did not do. Why, half of the entire film was nothing but the 1st act and was spent on entirely unecessary things.

I'm a huge fan of Dune and have probably read that novel about 20 times or so--at least. I've read EVERY Dune book, even the horrifying Butleryian Jyhad crud, and I'm telling you guys, Dune really can work on film. Just don't try to adapt the entire 1st act scene-for-scene like Lynch attempted, and don't get bogged down in expository scenes or characters who serve no purpose to the immediate story. Sure, the novel seemed more epic as a result, but ultimately, a film that spends time on introductions to characters that won't even live ten minutes just makes it too damned much to absorb.

As for the spice, I think Paul needs to learn about it as he goes along. In the book, and in both the television and film adaptations, a lot of expository information is presented in the first act, which, of course, made for some of the most boring, confusing opening acts you could possibly imagine. If the film would center on Paul and his reactions, Spice will be a mystery and the audiences, like Paul, will learn as they go along. Again, Paul shouldn't know everything from the word go, as he seems to in the film adaptation.

Sorry for the long post, but I just get annoyed by those who think the thing can't be translated properly to the screen. I mean, sure, if you pulled a Lynch and tried to reproduce the first act verbatum and skim through the real exciting meat of the story, then yeah, its gonna be bad. But if you actually get a little creative in editing the book, you really can have a 3 hour Dune epic on screen.

Still, considering that Harris is dead, I guess O'Toole really is the best, now. "De-fault! The two sweetest words in the english language!"--Homer Simpson.

In addition, and maybe I'm alone in this, I think they'd be doing a big injustice to the whole story by just filming the first book. Herbert's series was all about the dangers of humanity being united under one messiah-figure so it'd be a little weird to just film the one story that talks about the rise of that messiah as if he's a hero to humanity instead of the person that almost brought about the downfall of civilization.

Sex and the city was good, by the way.