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THE INCREDIBLE HULK smashes Harry's brain into undulating geek neurons firing on the possibilities ahead of us!

YES! by kinetickoala	Jun 5th, 2008 01:50:45 AM

I'M FINALLY FIRST by kinetickoala	Jun 5th, 2008 01:51:15 AM
AND I ACTUALLY READ THE ARTICLE
THIRD TOO?!!? by kinetickoala	Jun 5th, 2008 01:51:36 AM

AND FOURTH!?! by kinetickoala	Jun 5th, 2008 01:52:05 AM
HOLY GOD! I'M SEXY!
Anyway by kinetickoala	Jun 5th, 2008 01:52:43 AM
I can't wait until the Hulk comes out. I'll be there opening day. Thanks for the review, Harry!
Bill Bixby cameo?!? by Mullah Omar	Jun 5th, 2008 01:57:21 AM
That could be a very quiet one. If it's not just a shot of his photo attached to something else, then maybe there's a zombie attack or something and they used Bixby's skeleton.
First = twat by Lloytron	Jun 5th, 2008 01:57:38 AM
Its true
Well by kinetickoala	Jun 5th, 2008 01:57:46 AM
I need something more substantial, Harry. How kickass was the last fight scene, on a scale of 1 to 10?
I need a review from someone by Gwai Lo	Jun 5th, 2008 01:59:10 AM
who isn't hopped up on Sour Patch Kids and Pixie Sticks.. JUST KIDDING HARRY
Question on the Tony Stark cameo by Mullah Omar	Jun 5th, 2008 01:59:12 AM
By the way, how long is the scene with Stark, and does it come as a post-credits easter egg like in IRON MAN? Is there any reason to stay until after the credits finish?
cool by s0nicdeathmonkey	Jun 5th, 2008 01:59:14 AM
animation
Ahh, Lloytron by kinetickoala	Jun 5th, 2008 01:59:20 AM
7th is very respectable too.
Ed Norton wasn't there... by PirateEmery	Jun 5th, 2008 02:01:29 AM
...because he had someplace better to be at.
As usual by Chicken Thunder	Jun 5th, 2008 02:02:05 AM
That was......just really - hard to read. And get. Through in - some of the parts. Of that review!
Robert Downey Jr. wasn't there... by PirateEmery	Jun 5th, 2008 02:02:17 AM
...because he was doing a suitcase full of cocaine with a hooker in Las Vegas.
I'm just waiting for Thor by mansep	Jun 5th, 2008 02:02:48 AM
that'll be the one that really gets me excited. This new Hulk looks ugly and retarded to me.... but i applaud the new Marvel Project... i stopped colllecting Marvel DVDs when Daredevil came out, but this kind of crossover mentality, building a real Marvel Universe thinking, will make the whole thing much more rewarding as a multi-faceted franchise. Kudos to Marvel.
Harry you love movies more than me by Orionsangels	Jun 5th, 2008 02:05:04 AM
I know that for a fact now. Because you'll get excited over anything. You still get gitty, like some little school boy. Me, well I'm burnt on Hollywood movies. I'm one of the hardest son of guns on the planet to impress. So your review did nothing for me. I'll tell you why. Because countless times you've exploded with joy over the crappiest movies. I'm noy buying your over the top inflated reviews anymore. I know I'll go to this and say, It was ok. WTF was Knowles talking about?
Harry says he only writes reviews for movies by Gwai Lo	Jun 5th, 2008 02:13:32 AM
he's really passionate about, hence all the positivity. But yeah, all the hyperbole is a bit much. He must write them when he's still drunk on the experience, but like many passionate flings, what you wake up to in the morning is a lot more disappointing than what you went to bed with. And then you gotta start worrying about how you can collect your things and sneak out quietly, or perhaps what you can possibly say to break things off nicely. Sometimes, like in the case Harry's Godzilla review, indiscretion leads to the clap. Harry's reviews are sloppy drunken sex, fun at the time but for the most part regretable the next day.
chicken thunder by DocDaneeka	Jun 5th, 2008 02:14:44 AM
funny shit. nicely done.
While you didn't review the film by any means Harry... by IndustryKiller!	Jun 5th, 2008 02:18:09 AM
I actually really liked this little editorial. I think it's a great statement about where Marvel films are going. i love that they seem to have stopped apologizing that these movies take place in a comic book world. The most egregious wrong Joel Schumacher ever committed was making everyone think that anything remotely comic bookey, like sonic cannons for instance, are a terrible terrible thing. When in reality its all in the context of how you present it. I long for a Spider Man film that opens with Spidey taking down the Shocker in an attempted bank robbery. It's about time they opened up this universe cinematically.
and man... Sonic Cannons aren't Comic Booky by HEADGEEK	Jun 5th, 2008 02:25:34 AM
the military has been developing those... heat rays that can boil the skin... It's nice that it looks like Marvel is forward advancing this stuff - cuz it's WAY FUN
DONT PUT TOO MUCH FAITH IN MARVEL. by Redfive!	Jun 5th, 2008 02:26:17 AM
Just yet Harry.The first one is usually the best,then both the actor and director gets tired of living in that world after 5 years and bam...SPIDERMAN 3.
harry totally lost it, and squirted too by pipergates	Jun 5th, 2008 02:28:58 AM
yuck.
I still think the film looks shit...BUT... by Tourist	Jun 5th, 2008 02:30:22 AM
...I'm happy for it to makes millions cause I love Louis Leterrier. Yeah, I know, I suck. I don't understand what the hell that review was about. ASS KICKING and exclamation points and babbling on about Marvel. But I'm not the audience for this film anyway...I'm the dude who scratched his head during Iron Man wondering why the fuck anyone would find this entertaining, but glad to see that they at least catered to their core audience and gave them what they asked for. Even if its not much.
Oh... by Tourist	Jun 5th, 2008 02:31:10 AM
...And if the shitty looking comic book films of the summer have turned out pretty good, where are we headed with The Dark Knight, which looks fucking awesome?
And sorry to be a bastard... by Tourist	Jun 5th, 2008 02:32:45 AM
...“Did that man really turn into the HULK?” Perhaps the film is a good litmus test for North American education standards or low I.Q's in children?
FINALLY...The Marvel Universe on Screen by Jobacca	Jun 5th, 2008 02:37:21 AM
Honestly,I'm still not too jazzed for this....BUT,I love the fact that they're building up the Marvel universe with cameos and callbacks for the fans. I DID want to see Spidey swing by the Baxter Building or fight the Black Kingpin from Daredevil. THATS the shit that made the Marvel universe awesome. Sadly,DC and WB cant even settle on one actor to consistantly play Superman,much less give us a coherant DC Universe on film.
The Problem is... by Whitemouse	Jun 5th, 2008 02:38:37 AM
by Hulk 5 everyone else will be a Skrull
Though... by Whitemouse	Jun 5th, 2008 02:40:48 AM
I'm really hoping WB/DC execs are looking at this and thinking..."We should be doing things like that"...because a full on Green Lantern movie...well it needs doing. It really needs doing!
Ok Tourist you can take my place in this talkback by IndustryKiller!	Jun 5th, 2008 02:41:07 AM
Cause I actually liked the article and it got me all hyped for this flick. Sorry but a more cohesive Marvel U on film is EXACTLY what needed to happen to reinvigorate the typically horrid comic book film landscape. If the quality of the individual films holds up, which I feel it def did with Iron Man, then count me in. Ooo wait if you're me I get to be a Messi, or Mosquito March, or TomBodet type now! Here let me try this....DAMN YOO TOURIST!!!! You fucking pretentious cock!!! Get out of Your moms basement and get laid fucker!! Iron man was ENTERTAINING! You hear that!!?? ENTERTAINING!!! RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE...
What about... by kwisatzhaderach	Jun 5th, 2008 02:45:50 AM
the score, the cinematography...the cinematic qualities of the film Harry? The direction? Everything i've seen about this film has screamed crapola from the word go. Has Louis Letterrier miraculously managed to make a good film?
I was at this screening... by brunosmash	Jun 5th, 2008 02:50:23 AM
and I thoroughly enjoyed the film. Granted, I am a huge Hulk fan, so much so that I flew out to Austin from LA with a buddy specifically to see this; nevertheless, if you had told me that I would enjoy The Incredible Hulk as much as I had enjoyed Iron Man...well Iron Man was about as perfect as an Iron Man film could be; I would have been content with a Hulk film half as good as Iron Man. This film was NOT half as good as Iron Man; it was EQUAL to or BETTER than Iron Man. Again, realize that this is coming from a lifelong Hulk guy (I'm now 31), so yeah, I am a wee bit biased. But this film did a great job representing an aspect of the Hulk that was missing from the 2003 film. Namely, his rage. This is a Hulk that is Angry, Dangerous, Powerful, and Destructive. Yet he is most definitely a hero and not one dimensional. The film was action packed, intense and suspenseful. I seriously doubt anyone who is looking for those qualities in a film will be disappointed. For the die hard TV fans; Ed Norton does a great job channeling Bill Bixby; do yourself a favor and watch it. For the die hard comic book fans; if you enjoyed Bryne's brief but wonderful stint on the Incredible Hulk in the mid eighties (#314-319); if you love the idea of the Hulk presented as an unstoppable, primal force of of nature, as rage personified, see this film. And yeah, seeing Stark show up the end was the icing in the icing on the cake. Many thanks to everyone involved the making of this film. The only bummer is having to wait till next Friday to see it again.
It's going to happen... by LordEnigma	Jun 5th, 2008 02:54:34 AM
We are going to get a crazy ass Avengers film. We are really going to have a picture -- from that set one day -- of Ed Norton, Robert Downey Jr., and the other Avenger actours/actress standing there together. We are going to see that in 2 to 3 years. WE ARE ACTUALLY GOING TO SEE THAT ON SCREEN. This leaves me with one silly statement; "HULK SMASH PUNY DC FILMOGRAPHY!"
I absolutely love reading Harry's reviews by kungfuhustler84	Jun 5th, 2008 02:56:25 AM
because they remind me of the really good parts of being a movie and comic book fan. He is so excited and invested in enjoying this, and it fucking rocks. I am so excited, I don't care how bias his review is or if he's just speaking totally in hyperbole. I love movies, I LOVE comics, and i am ready to see the Marvel universe unravel right in front of us. We are so fucking lucky this is happening right now.
I must admit by Fineus Fog	Jun 5th, 2008 02:56:36 AM
after Ang Lee blew his chlamydia infested load in my face in 2003 I wasnt exactly pumped for this movie. Even Iron Man seemed a bit iffy to me - until I saw it and was blown away. Harry is right whe nhe says the Execsa are the people who bring these comics to us every week/month and they are the best people for the job. Not some idiot WB suit who just wants Bryan Singer's balls in his mouth
Norton wasn't there because... by Fortunesfool	Jun 5th, 2008 03:18:31 AM
He didn't get the 'final' cut of the movie he wanted. He's having a hissy fit somewhere.
I liked Star Trek:TMP better and LOVED Lee's HULK! by TheGhostWhoLurks	Jun 5th, 2008 03:28:44 AM
However, the clips I've seen the past few weeks from Norton's Hulk have made me much more hopeful about this film. The CGI STILL looks sub-par, though... much more cartoony and less convincing than in Ang Lee's film from several years ago. And REALLY: Would it have been SO hard to give The Abomination his fin ears? I mean the guy REALLY looks like a walking pile of dinosaur poop. :P
Pond Scum Farms creating Bio-Fuel at 35 cents a gallon… by BenBraddock	Jun 5th, 2008 04:01:09 AM
Now THAT sounds interesting!
Orionsangels, you nailed it by BenBraddock	Jun 5th, 2008 04:02:40 AM
Sorry Harry, I really want to believe you but I'm hedging my bets. You've burned me way too often (latest was Indy IV).
badass, kickass and asskicking, but is most certainly not ASS by Guy Who Got A Headache And Accidentally Saves The World	Jun 5th, 2008 04:06:22 AM
ASS YEAH!
Why did this have to come out the day after MGS4? by Shermdawg	Jun 5th, 2008 04:09:14 AM
Looks like I won't be getting much sleep next week.
Reminder : the IronMan CGI looked shit in first trailers by quantize	Jun 5th, 2008 04:11:37 AM
...and turned out to be pretty good.. which really surprised me, so im somewhat hopeful in context it looks ok in this Hulk
MARVEL to become as untouchable as Pixar? by spooky2k	Jun 5th, 2008 04:19:16 AM
I got damn hope so. And you know what both companies have in common? ...Story is king.
Sounds good Harry. by AllPowerfulWizardOfOz	Jun 5th, 2008 04:35:27 AM
I too was not too stoked about this and a fan of the Ang Lee Hulk movie. But I will see this now. Good review.
In the tradition of Harry's self-depracation... by smackfu	Jun 5th, 2008 04:45:09 AM
That Hulk animation should be changed so that Harry's Hulk is 10x fatter than him, and the beard should sprout out down to his feet like Jasper from the Simpsons. The idea that Gamma radiation would bring out Harry's best features rather than horribly backfiring on him goes against the theme...
I would commit murders to see Marvel get Spider Man back by IndustryKiller!	Jun 5th, 2008 04:47:09 AM
Now there is a property I would love for them to tackle on their own. The one thing Marvel seems to be doing with their first two outings, is show that they not only understand these superheroes as characters, but know how to compress that character into a cinematic format. I don;t think that has yet to be done with Spider Man. Macguire's Parker never gets past the uber nerd aspect of the character, which peter Parker hasn't been in like, I dunno, 35 years of the comic. Dunsts Mary Jane is just plain horrible and their relationship in those films is so trite and passionless. I think Marvel might be able to figure it out better than the imbeciles at Sony.
“Yes, that’s why Ed Norton couldn’t be here tonight… it’s too da by quentintarantado	Jun 5th, 2008 04:50:23 AM
That's a pretty cool answer, actually. It might fuck up his future, but that's a really cool answer.
Thor - Can it actually be good ? by Miyamoto_Musashi	Jun 5th, 2008 04:58:03 AM
Not to put a sour note on the Harry spreading his seed all over Marvel party, but just struggle to see how Thor can come to the big screen and be a good move not just an all action thing. Superman is a good comparrison, for me Supes gets tiring after a while when he acts all "god-like" without a care in the world, the human acts/struggles/issues make him more interesting. Will be interesting to see how they can humanise Thor, making him interesting for 100 minutes or so.
Great review, Harry. by Knuckleduster	Jun 5th, 2008 05:15:15 AM
Count my excitement official. I really hope that The Avengers happens, and that they rely on The Ultimates (at least Mark Millar's parts 1 and 2. Not Jeph Loeb's goofy Ultimates 3) as a major influence.
IndustryKiller! by Knuckleduster	Jun 5th, 2008 05:22:07 AM
"The one thing Marvel seems to be doing with their first two outings, is show that they not only understand these superheroes as characters, but know how to compress that character into a cinematic format." Well said.
wow by El Borak	Jun 5th, 2008 05:40:11 AM
sounds nice.
bless you harry, for giving me hope by El Borak	Jun 5th, 2008 05:48:46 AM
if only they could reboot ghost rider w/ the midnight sons. or just have gr team up in a movie that doesn't suck. the rider, daredevil, spidey, cap, hulk, x-men, ff, morbius, dr strange! iron man, punisher, venom, man-thing, thor, blade! silver surfer, deadpool, moon knight, elektra.
But you also loved Indy Harry by the_scream	Jun 5th, 2008 05:58:35 AM
And that movie was good but fell to pieces as soon as Marion and the CGI crap entered the scene. Yeah, you loved all those moments with Marion and Indy because of pure nostalgia not because they actually had any chemistry in this film. So, I am wondering if this is the Harry that went in with his Batman and Robin radar on or the Harry that really enjoys Rise of the Silver Surfer, one of the worst movies ever made. I think if you occasionally got stuck into a film, we could trust your opinion a bit more. I know you like to write about things you are passionate about but surely you could give us some of the old Harry who used this site to vent his frustration with the utter crap out there.
So The Incredible Hulk smashed Hulk by Grammaton Cleric Binks	Jun 5th, 2008 06:10:19 AM
Okay, I'm convinced. I need to see this.
I liked Iron Man, but i didn´t love it by CuervoJones	Jun 5th, 2008 06:20:28 AM
Come on, Iron Man is just a funny movie, but not a great film to remember forever.
Never been a fan of the Hulk character... by beastie	Jun 5th, 2008 06:21:37 AM
I had respect for the 2003, but it didn't convert me. However, after all of this buzz (not just Harry's review but all of the other ones on the main page) I may have to see this. I'll wait until some of enough of the traditional press reviews come out, but it's looking like they'll like it.
CuervoJones, I agree by the_scream	Jun 5th, 2008 06:22:48 AM
You are right. The film was fun. You couldn't bitch too much about it because it was really funny. But it was hardly as memorable as Batman Begins or Spiderman 2. Those films blew my socks off.
that would be fucking cool if this film is good by just pillow talk	Jun 5th, 2008 06:44:07 AM
I would view it as an added bonus to the summer since I was a bit unsure with this one. And if they are fitting into the Marvel universe, well that's fucktastically great.
So Speed Racer by Series7	Jun 5th, 2008 06:59:06 AM
Is still the best film of the summer?
I was a bit reluctant to go. by hallmitchell	Jun 5th, 2008 07:07:38 AM
Now I'm going. I trust Harry. Not enough to see INdiana Jones though. By the way. That intial teaser was so crap they were always going to have an uphill fight after that and it sounds like they didn't need to.
why not a SHIELD movie? by j2talk	Jun 5th, 2008 07:09:13 AM
so has more film projects lined up, why not a SHIELD movie? The GI JOE Film stills showed that Blackbody suits can work...SHIELD could be done as a modern spy film ala Casino Royale-Great Film, just (Sorry People)-Craig isnt Bond
Harry has once again succeeded... by Jamador79	Jun 5th, 2008 07:18:40 AM
in making me picture him cumming. Please calm down, Harry.
and why do you say fuck so much by Jamador79	Jun 5th, 2008 07:20:25 AM
not that i'm offended, but i think we can get that you are (overly) enthusiastic without everything being fan-fucking-tastic, fucking ubergeekjizzbomb, and the fucking hulk is fucking incredible when he fucking smashes the fuck out of fucks
I just hope that Bill Bixby cameo by RaveX	Jun 5th, 2008 07:22:49 AM
isn't as lame as Darren McGavin's was in the pilot for the new (terrible) night stlaker.
So once again.... by Gabba-UK	Jun 5th, 2008 07:25:23 AM
we await Moriarty's, Quint's, Capone's and Herc's reviews. I'm glad you liked it Harry, I really am, but you do seem to like everything at the moment. But at least I suspect that the reason for that is that your life going so well at the moment. So I can't really blame you. But you do give me hope for this film.
When is Nathan Jones by Series7	Jun 5th, 2008 07:27:01 AM
Going to sign on to be Thor?
Harry, I didn't get to ask my question! by JaviT	Jun 5th, 2008 07:41:09 AM
What happened to Avi Arad's comments about the grey Hulk being in the movie, too? Are we gonna see all the deleted stuff on dvd? Personally, I would love a dvd with the theatrical cut and the Norton cut...
Well, that's good I guess by Abominable Snowcone	Jun 5th, 2008 07:43:46 AM
I could use a good Hulk movie. But I can't say I'm familiar enough with the character to know who The Leader is. I'm gonna see this, but I'm hardly as excited about it as I was for new spidey installments, or Indy Jones, or Rambo or Rocky 6. But yeah, I'll catch it.
DEATHLOK by fivezero	Jun 5th, 2008 07:46:22 AM
there's supposed to be a Deathlok movie in the works, but i want a 1974 period Deathlok movie! that would just be TOO funny.
Harry, is the Lonely Man piano theme in the movie? by jack-torrance	Jun 5th, 2008 07:49:16 AM

Ben Braddock and Being Burned by Doctor Cosmic	Jun 5th, 2008 07:58:21 AM
Yeah, I gotta agree with Ben here, Har. I mean, come the fuck on. We're supposed to believe you, you, who are very likely receiving sexual favors from male executives to post positive "reviews?" Please. Nah, I'm kiddin.' You're a great kid, Har. Doc
Sounds like TOTAL FUCKING DESTRUCTION!!! by Motoko Kusanagi	Jun 5th, 2008 08:04:12 AM
Does it?
Doc Samson = James Rhodes? by SpyGuy	Jun 5th, 2008 08:07:57 AM
Next time, baby.
Do I need to stay after the credits? by mrfan	Jun 5th, 2008 08:10:20 AM
Just curious if there is a short scene following the credits?
Yeah Harry by Series7	Jun 5th, 2008 08:11:34 AM
After reading this review over your Panda review. It seems like you didn't like the Panda movie that much. That are now you are going to start riding some high horse about fat people?
Spidey/X-men vs Avengers by sean bean	Jun 5th, 2008 08:15:17 AM
If we're talking a film universe fight, the Avengers would walk it. Hulk or Thor would win by themselves. Tony Stark could take out most of them with his computer targeting thing. Add Cap's tactical nous and it's too one-sided. There's no heavy hitters in the (movie) X-men. Phoenix, possibly, but she's a flake. Even Magneto wouldn't level the odds. Maybe Storm could distract Hulk by disrobing. That's their best chance of success and definitely a movie I would pay to see.
the 2003 film by Sithdan	Jun 5th, 2008 08:18:49 AM
After that narcolepsy-inducer, I don't know if I want to waste my hard-earned money on another Hulk film. Most people will agree. I smell a wait-for-DVD, don't you?
Thor by Mosquito March	Jun 5th, 2008 08:25:25 AM
I'd cast Josh Holloway. He'd have to lose his Sawyer accent, of course, but if they go the Ultimates route, I'd totally buy him as that character.
Err.... by DocPazuzu	Jun 5th, 2008 08:25:49 AM
...was there actually a review in there somewhere?
Thor by Series7	Jun 5th, 2008 08:27:14 AM
Nathan Jones.
Meh by ScottinDC	Jun 5th, 2008 08:31:35 AM
I'll go see this since Marvel is doing such a terrific job right now BUT...I have trouble believing any of Harry's reviews at the moment, after he spent so much time (and tears) defending the new Indy flick which was a hot rancid steaming pile that served to only damage the great name of Indiana Jones. And Harry, how about lowering the references of you ejaculating and using the F bomb all the time? I don't think it's possible to offend me..but I do get tired of you breaking words in half just to put 'fuck' in the middle of it.
so excited for this... looks awesome by THE_ONE_MAN_GANG	Jun 5th, 2008 08:32:20 AM
iron man and this make the x men movies look like the shit that they are...
too bad this wasnt the first incredible hulk film by cheifchirpa3000	Jun 5th, 2008 08:38:38 AM
then it woud do much better at the b.o. Ironmans sucess might help it a little but most people are gonna say "they made a sequel to the hulk? i dunnooooo" i thought the first hulk was enjoyable. but in all due respect the whole idea of the hulk is a one trick pony, could be kinda boring and redundant. we shall see.
AT LAST!!! NOT A DREAM!!! NOT A TRICK!!! by JeremiahTheProphet	Jun 5th, 2008 08:39:29 AM
The MARVEL UNIVERSE is coming your cinematic way, True Believers! Just remember to say to Hollywood "Make mine a Marvel!" Ex-Fucking-Celsior!
Sounds promising... by ccchhhrrriiisssm	Jun 5th, 2008 08:44:57 AM
...but I think that it is a stretch to compare the film with STAR TREK 2 (even slightly) while still saying that Ang Lee's HULK was a good film. I literally HATED Ang Lee's film -- almost as much as I hated SUPERMAN IV. Yep, it was that bad for me. I am glad that the studio had the balls to reject pretty much everything (including the actors) from Ang Lee's film and to quickly reboot -- while the bad memories are still fresh. I will be watching this one with anticipation! Thanks, Harry!
Harry, your opinion, please. by Gatsbys West Egg Omlet	Jun 5th, 2008 08:47:22 AM
what happens when all these leads end up in the same movie and MARVEL can't afford to pay them all? Norton, Downey Jr, Sam Jackson, and whoever big name dudes they get to play Cap, Thor, and all these other parts. Thats like the cast of Oceans 11, in a comic movie. Thats a lot of money being dropped on actors. Will the effects be shorted? will the story, because you have to give each of them equal screen time? believe me, i'm as stoked as anyone (well, maybe not as stoked as Harry) to see a fleshed out, cohesive MARVEL U on film, but thinking about the logistics of it all kind of scares me.
fuck you, Harry! by bluebottle	Jun 5th, 2008 08:58:36 AM
you got me excited! and you're absolutely right - i've been waiting my whole life for a marvel cinematic universe... MY WHOLE LIFE!!! (god, i suck)
Did Harry's nephew crap his pants this time? by rev_skarekroe	Jun 5th, 2008 08:59:50 AM
That's my meter for a quality Hulk film.
Thor by Gatsbys West Egg Omlet	Jun 5th, 2008 09:05:03 AM
seems impossible to do in this "real world" MARVEL U they are setting up. i will be shocked and amazed if they actually try to include him in an Avengers film.
They need to reboot Fantastic Four! by DirkBelig	Jun 5th, 2008 09:11:30 AM
Scrap the whole cast (except maybe Chris Evans), make the Thing CGI (think Davy Jones quality), cast a real blonde as Sue (Elisha Cuthbert looks like Kirby drew her and can actually act), and TAKE IT SERIOUSLY and redeem the franchise. Could we possibly take Ioan Gruffudd's - remember when Hollywood used to give stars names we could spell and pronounce - disco king Reed Richards seriously as Tony Stark's brilliant-but-stupid right hand if they were to do "Civil War"? Exactly!
Correct me if I'm wrong by Lost Jarv	Jun 5th, 2008 09:17:07 AM
but didn't pretty much the whole world hate Civil War?
where's Frankie to defend FF? by just pillow talk	Jun 5th, 2008 09:29:15 AM
SoylentMean, correction, the summer is for fun AND good movies. I hope this one qualifies for that.
So since Marvel is taking control of things by Series7	Jun 5th, 2008 09:36:04 AM
Are they doing the upcoming Wolverine: Origins movie? Are will that movie end up looking terrible? Because its going to have Deadpool in it who is my fav marvel character.
I read that Liv Tyler's nude scenes by Abominable Snowcone	Jun 5th, 2008 09:38:30 AM
are soft and erotic without being prurient, artistic and sapphoric without being crass, and that her beaver shots and silohuetted nipplage are submlime.
Probably my favorite review you've done man by dannyocean	Jun 5th, 2008 09:39:54 AM
And I read them all. Sadly. Sigh. The bit with the nephew is what makes this review work. All of your reviews must now reference your nephew's reaction to them. Excelsior!
I heard they are "enlightening and tasteful" by just pillow talk	Jun 5th, 2008 09:40:15 AM
And the crew handled them with due care and professionalism. Liv felt very comfortable and natural in them.
Kid's say the darndest things.... by HitchCock'n'Balz	Jun 5th, 2008 09:42:19 AM
But I don't give a shit if a fucking 7 year old thinks a man really turned into the hulk...he most likely still believes in the tooth fairy and Santy Claus..."is Will Ferrel really an Elf"....same stupidity....and in no way a reason for me to go see this...I will be seeing it..love me some hulk....but do we really need to be force fed the idea that because children are gullible and easily mislead that this is a good film? Where is the review of the movie in all that sentimental garbage?
Ang Lee's Hulk Vs. Star Trek: The Motion Picture by kevinwillis.net	Jun 5th, 2008 09:42:43 AM
I don't see the comparison. I liked the first Star Trek movie, and grew to love it over time. It's a great, weird frickin' movie. Love it. I didn't like Ang Lee's Hulk the first time I saw it. Now, after repeated viewings, I like it even less. Sorry, the comparison doesn't work for me. Ang Lee's Hulk was, at best, a mediocre film, and at worse, a mess. I'd compare it more to that Captain America film from the late 80s, early 90s, only with better cinematography and more CGI. Nothing against the folks who like Ang Lee's movie, but I just don't see a comparison to Star Trek: The Motion picture. Which I can still watch and enjoy. I could never see Ang Lee's Hulk again. Or the Ice Storm. Or Brokeback Mountain. Or almost anything Ang Lee has done, except for Crouching Tiger, and be perfectly happy.
Series7 by Gatsbys West Egg Omlet	Jun 5th, 2008 09:43:50 AM
MARVEL isn't doing the Wolverine movie. i think its FOX. and with all the characters they are shoving into it as of now, don't expect to see your favorite mercenary done justice. but i could be wrong. i hope i'm wrong.
Anchorite: 10% Pond Scum by kevinwillis.net	Jun 5th, 2008 09:51:01 AM
The problem is not consuming 10% of Arizona to produce bio-fuels with pondscum, it's the fantasy that we are anywhere near the technology to have that generate .25 cent-per-gallon gasoline. Try $20 per gallon. Or $30 per gallon. Drilling off the gulf and ANWAR would make for a good supply of domestic oil, and oil to sell to other markets to help burst the insanely over-inflated oil futures market. It would lower the price of oil and gas (as would building more refineries, but that has so far improved impossible, thanks to the EPA and environmental groups filing lawsuits any time an energy company attempts to open a new refinery). But it ain't going to happen--no drilling in ANWAR, no new refineries, no reduction of regional gasoline formulations. So save your pennies so you can pay $25 bucks a gallon for gas and $15 bucks for an ear of corn . . . and about $25 a pound for every sort of meat from livestock fed with corn . . . and then the EPA will sue the state of Arizona for the environmental destruction caused by their pondscum farms. The top marginal tax-rate will be 110%, Universal Health Care will keep us waiting for a check-up for only three to four years, all major American businesses will relocate to the United Arab Emirates or China, and the US will finally be a socialist utopia. And we won't have to worry about gas prices, because the internal combustion engine will have been outlawed. Hmm. I smell a script, here.
This will suck, Ang's was perfect. by dr sauch	Jun 5th, 2008 09:52:41 AM

why are will still using ..... by j2talk	Jun 5th, 2008 10:01:08 AM
kevinwillis.net the bigger issue is WHY are we stilling using the internal combustion engine...hell maybe it SHOULD be outlawed....a hundred yrs later and there isnt an alternative engine? Come on
hey anchorite by j2talk	Jun 5th, 2008 10:04:31 AM
anchorite the ONLY reason "Alaskans want to have increased oil production in their state. They want us to drill in ANWR" is that EVER resident gets a nice bit of $$$$ based on the oil pumped out of the state....
kevinwillis.net by g-ride9000	Jun 5th, 2008 10:08:55 AM
The ice storm is quality film and has been recived well by a variety of people. I guess you have a point about Harry's comparison between Hulk and ST1. ST1 was wayyy better. oh yes, also you are what I call an oil bigot. Defending something that gives your children lung cancer and sends us to war. Oil is the past...and if your into that sort of thing, ride a fucking bike and move close to work. If you think its all about pond scum, think again... http://www.theaircar.com/ this is just a start to end our reliance on oil. A true patriot sees the country's need to stay strong internally, not subsrcibe to ideas of past that make us week. We are week when we are at war. The corporations who dictate the law of the land have too much at stake to change. They are dinosaurs, just like you.
j2talk by g-ride9000	Jun 5th, 2008 10:11:43 AM
dat wat i be talkin bout mon..a new engine!
Harry's younger than me... by crankyoldguy	Jun 5th, 2008 10:26:29 AM
And I'm supposed to be old and craky...but not about this. The more I see in trailers, the more I'm looking forward to it; so is my little boy (though I'm concerned the big=screen hulking might be too much for him as there's a big difference between watching videos such as a scary Davy Jones in Pirates at hom and in a dark theater, even if dad and mom are with you). But I'm here to see it's okay to be a geek at your half-century mark and all the sub-intellectual-wanna-be ranters here stay out of our way, 'cause Hulk smash!
If there is a sequel then bring on the Leader. by mrfan	Jun 5th, 2008 10:28:53 AM
Have him battle the Hulk with robots and all sorts of crazy devices. That would be my choice.
Okay, totally off-topic, but... by Supernatural_Canary	Jun 5th, 2008 10:30:54 AM
Harry desperately needs an editor. It's obvious that he loved the movie, but most of that review was grammatically incomprehensible, which made reading it a real chore. (Forgive the stupid nit-picking. But as someone who works in publishing and who reads manuscripts all day long, I couldn't leave it unsaid.) Oh, and while I was not going to bother seeing this movie, as of now I probably will. My expectations are low, but, in my opinion, that's usually a good posture to take going into any movie (unless one is able to forego all expectations, which is ideal, but which is also very difficult). (Harry: Should you desire editorial direction, I’m willing to offer it. No charge!)
Jesus is younger than you by g-ride9000	Jun 5th, 2008 10:35:05 AM
you cranky old fart!
That wasn't a review by KneelBeforeZod1	Jun 5th, 2008 10:35:13 AM
You suck you fat bastard!
Canary, it's not nitpicking to say Harry needs an editor by Laserhead	Jun 5th, 2008 10:40:28 AM
His reviews are written with a below-preschool level of literacy, and are often grammatically incomprehensible. I'm actually looking forward to the Hulk now, but yeah, seems like each new review by Harry is harder and harder to read through... it's babble.
Sounds Good. Love your animation by CrichtonAstronut	Jun 5th, 2008 10:45:58 AM

Has Harry ever read a Hulk comic book??? by only1	Jun 5th, 2008 10:48:08 AM
His points of reference are all the TV show. No offense, Harry. I love the site, but lets call a spade a spade... the TV show was awesome... for the 70's. there's a reason I haven't picked up the dvd's... because, in truth, the tv show SUCKED! You heard me! Sure, when I was 5 I loved the freaking show... but I was 5! What the fuck does a 5 year old know about entertainment??? I don't like that the move references the show, but it's not deterring me from going to see it. My fiancee even wants to see it... she's a big Edward Norton fan (he's from our area). She was glad I dragged her to Iron Man so I'm thinking she'll like this.
Harry... by -guyinthebackrow	Jun 5th, 2008 10:56:20 AM
I can believe this review, but not not the one for the PANDA movie.
only1 by Abominable Snowcone	Jun 5th, 2008 10:56:46 AM
You raise a good point. I loved the show on Friday nights. I was like nine or ten at the time. But yeah, in hindsight, the show was weak. David Banner (as I believe he was called--not Bruce) would simply wander around from one place to the next, taking odd jobs and meeting new (but fleeting) friends and getting wrapped up in their troubles. And there were typically only two hulk-outs with Lou Ferrigno. A mild one in the middle of the show, and a bigger one at the end, where perhaps Lou (as the Hulk) would throw a tire in slow motion at the bad guy, then he'd run off (in slow mo) and you'd see David at the end going wandering again.
Harry...I Want To Believe...but...... by riddleman1674	Jun 5th, 2008 11:03:51 AM
The kudos you gave to that trainwreck that was Indiana Jones, I dunno. Though I agree with you on Iron Man and the direction they're taking with thier characters now, so hopefully Marvel redemption is at hand! Now give em a few years and if they stay on track, we need to wipe our asses with those unspeakable Daredevil & Fantastic Four movies and revamp them as well. Let's hope Norton's Hulk kicks ass not only at the box office but up in the minds of those oblivious "dollar sign beer goggle" corporate morons. Can't wait for June 13th! Nuff said.....
Harry's HULK comic reading and collection by HEADGEEK	Jun 5th, 2008 11:06:53 AM
I'm staring at my issue of HULK 1. I also have a complete run of the TALES TO ASTONISH - as well as Hulk's early run in AVENGERS. This film takes its Bruce Banner clues from the TV show though - and Bixby's David Banner was a pretty great take on the character. THE HULK on the show was limited to minor acts of incredible-ness. That's what has improved greatly here. THE HULK isn't beating up regular thugs.... or just military men with guns. But science fiction weaponry and another monster. That's what is coming out of the books - and that's what is cool. And having THE LEADER lining up next is the coolest... sadly, I fear I only know of the LEADER from the TV show cuz we all know how often he appeared with monsters and robots and crazy tech. Right? right.
"What about SPIDER-MAN?" by kayleefan	Jun 5th, 2008 11:23:33 AM
"What about SPIDER-MAN? Well – SPIDER-MAN did a good job of establishing the SPIDER-MAN UNIVERSE – you never saw Spidey at the Baxter building? Matt Murdoch didn’t walk by. It stayed within the Spidey-specific universe." The Punisher did a (very) brief cameo at the end of Spider-Man 2.
What is a "Marvel Cinematic Universe"... by zyuray2	Jun 5th, 2008 11:31:46 AM
... without Spider-Man and the X-Men? It's an "Avengers Cinematic Universe". Which is cool, but not as exciting.
Harry, are you saying Reinstein... by AnakinsDiapers	Jun 5th, 2008 11:32:52 AM
...is alive? If that's what you're saying then that is complete ass. The entire point to the mystique of Captain America is that he's one of a kind because the super sooldier formula died with its' creator. Sure, there have been attempts to recreate it to varying degrees of success, but the original is always the best. I'm starting to worry here. Between this and the impenetrable one of a kind shield turning up half constructed in Tony Starks lab...i'm getting nervous.
Lest hope Marvel gets enough power to get Xmen & F4 from FOX! by The Founder	Jun 5th, 2008 11:34:35 AM
God I hope they can. FOX has run those franchises into the ground.
Sounds Great Harry, but I've been duped by you before. by The Founder	Jun 5th, 2008 11:37:14 AM
I believe Harry's heart and passion is well placed, but I seen this story before where harry sings high praise to a film and it's a let down. It sounds like his geekness may be over playing the film, butI'm sure it'll turn out fine.
Will the Hulk make money though???? by The Founder	Jun 5th, 2008 11:39:04 AM
This is the big question. Hulk isn't exactly in a safe release time frame to clear a good chunk of box office dollars with other films that are coming out. Should moved Hulk to August.
Punisher Cameo in Spider-man 2?!?! by DKT	Jun 5th, 2008 11:39:47 AM
What? Where?
About the X-Men Movies by DKT	Jun 5th, 2008 11:41:49 AM
The first two kicked ass. It'd be interesting to see what Marvel would do with them if they re-acquired the film rights, but I don't trust Marvel completely yet. Joey Q. did a lot of good things early on as an editor there (Bendis' Daredevil, Morrison's New X-Men), but these days, he has a lot more to answer for.
kayleefan by Herb West	Jun 5th, 2008 11:43:49 AM
I'm not sure if that Thomas Jane part in SM2 can be considered a Punisher cameo.
g-ride9000: The Ice Storm by kevinwillis.net	Jun 5th, 2008 11:51:36 AM
Just my opinion. I know it was well received, I just found it a cliche wrapped in a melodrama inside a yawn. But I'm probably the only person who thought Heath Ledger's performance in Brokeback Mountain was terrible. Still, ST1 is the awesome, and I think it holds up well. And that Klingon theme! Man, I loved the score. As far as being an oil bigot, not all. I'm a reality check. A: The only thing that's going to give us cheap gas is tapping our own supply and building refineries. The best thing for domestic electricity production, price wise, is expanding nuclear (something that has apparently worked well in much of Europe) and tapping our currently untappable natural gas supplies. Processes for getting energy out of other sources (like Harry's pondscum) are freighted with costs, not to mention litigation and political opponents in the environmental movement. I'm all for alternative energies (including nuclear), and especially solar--if we can get our capture rates significantly higher, it'll be a great source of energy. I like the idea of flywheels and energy recapture in automobiles and elsewhere, I own a GM hybrid (a Saturn VUE--actually a hybrid-assist with marginally better gas mileage, but still it's a hybrid). If we can get lots of cheap energy without oil (or natural gas, or nuclear), I'm all for it. I just don't see that happening. I also don't see us bringing any more nuclear plants online, or tapping our domestic oil supplies any time soon, so I'm just expecting prices to go up-up-up, aside from a potential market correction in the oil futures market. We shall see.
Will the Hulk Make Money? by kevinwillis.net	Jun 5th, 2008 11:53:12 AM
Does the pope shit in the woods? Yes, it'll make money. It's getting good word of mouth, decent marketing, on the heels of Iron Man . . . it'll make bank. Might not perform at Iron Man's level, but, even so, it'll turn a tidy profit.
Harry, if we had universal healthcare... by thebearovingian	Jun 5th, 2008 11:54:38 AM
you probably would've been dead already. Truth. OOOOORRRRR you'd be on the news bitchin' and moanin' about how the universal healthcare system has failed and you couldn't receive the proper treatment in a timely fashion. Yeah, man. Throw in some stupid political bullshit. Way to ruin your review (besides the poor grammar, syntax, and punctuation). Screw you. I shouldn't have to pay for your lap-band surgery. Personal responsibility, folks. That's all I'm asking for.
thebearovingian by Gatsbys West Egg Omlet	Jun 5th, 2008 11:57:45 AM
and what happens when you can't pay for your mom's chemotherapy, dickhead?
DKT by Herb West	Jun 5th, 2008 12:07:34 PM
Quote: "The Punisher" has a small cameo in Spider-Man 2. At the end when Mary Jane is running through the park with her wedding dress on, Thomas Jane can be seen glancing at her while she runs past. (He is not in any kind of costume, but it is Jane nonetheless.)
Marvel can suck D.C's big one by WHO ARE YOU WORKING FOR	Jun 5th, 2008 12:17:03 PM
A joined-up universe my ass - DC got there first. HELLO! THEY MENTIONED METROPOLIS IN BATMAN FOREVER!!!
Nuclear fusion by Mattyboy122	Jun 5th, 2008 12:17:24 PM
Is the way of the future. We just need to focus more time and money on perfecting it and we'll have fuel to last us longer than our friggin' sun will be around. Anyway, as far as this flick and the Marvel universe goes, one thing that annoyed me about Iron Man was that it was that it was a tease for other flicks (and whoever brought up the logistics of making an Avengers flick is on the right track in wondering how they can even pull off a quality Avengers film). The bit with Sam Jackson at the end of Iron Man was fine, but I was annoyed to have paid for a film that, in its final moments, basically just teased us for more. Oh well.
g-ride.... by crankyoldguy	Jun 5th, 2008 12:21:10 PM
just another wussy boy on AICN....My five-and-half year-old could take you...
kevinwillis.net by Series7	Jun 5th, 2008 12:26:16 PM
Oh praise Allah someone else who doesn't like Ang Lee's work. I think for the most part he is very boring and doesn't get good performences out of his actors. Seriously the Ice Storm felt like people were just reading lines on a page, like they had no idea what was going on. As for Star Trek 1, I may have seen them all back in the day but I really only remember 4 and 6. So I went out and rented them all and 1 was pretty amazing. I had been watching the show on TV Land late at night (I was looking for a job and stay up all night) and I thought the movie fit in well with the show. Though it wasn't an action, but there were episodes that were not about action they were mind games played on the crew and thats what ST1 was. Plus the movie holds up very well.
My son just asked me by Magnum Opus	Jun 5th, 2008 12:33:47 PM
...why is Jabba the Hut wearing a suit? So I slapped the shit out of him and told him those were Harry's wedding photos. Fucking retarded children, amirite?
I'll wait for some reviews... by Sledge Hammer	Jun 5th, 2008 12:37:56 PM
...from a site that didn't get a free invite to the editing suite, and a free screening set up in Texas. Call me cynical but I ain't falling for no Hulk sized banana in the tailpipe...
WAY too over enthusiastic and nerdy review by jamazio	Jun 5th, 2008 12:38:40 PM
I couldn't read it all, it was unbearable. Just a complete geek freak out. Surely, there must be pros and cons, as with most (respectable) reviewer, but this review was utter shite. Harry, calm down and take a breather before you post your next review. I could almost smell the spunk stains.
who knew by ArcadianDS	Jun 5th, 2008 12:45:03 PM
that the secret to a movie's success lay in its need to convince a small child that it was real. More fanfictastic ravings herein, and nothing of substance. 300+ words to tell us that there's a vial in the movie that contains 'super soldier serum' and suddenly we're all supposed to forget that Spiderman 3 sucked, and the Fantastic Four wasn't.
I'm excited! by Johnno	Jun 5th, 2008 12:50:13 PM
They need to do the same for Spider-Man and the Punisher, or just put the Punisher in a Spidey film... Spidey had a stint on the Avengers too at some point. I wonder if FOX will also go along with this for future X-Men or spin-offs...
Bravo Harry by sweeneydave	Jun 5th, 2008 12:54:01 PM
The trailers never did it for me. But for once I'm flippin' ecstatic for this movie! I LIVE for seeing movies with my 7 year old boy and the story of your nephew brought tears to my eyes. I can't WAIT!
GREEN POOP!!! by Rustle	Jun 5th, 2008 12:56:06 PM
I too was at the screening last night.. Thanks for another great screening. I especially liked the green chips and salsa.. That is until I went to the Bathroom this morning.. It made for some disgusting Gamma Green Poop..
Come to think of it.... by Herb West	Jun 5th, 2008 12:57:13 PM
Is the new Punisher movie going to be part of this new and improved Marvel universe? Does anyone know?
why cant harry write a review without sexual references by JimmyJoe RedSky	Jun 5th, 2008 12:59:23 PM

rev_skarekroe, I couldn't help but wonder, too by blackhole4140	Jun 5th, 2008 12:59:36 PM
If Harry's nephew shit his pants this time as well. If I recall, Harry didn't change the kid's diaper, he just let him sit in it for the rest of the original Hulk. I guess the Incredible Hulk was better for both of them this time around.
So is this better or worse than Indy 4? by wash	Jun 5th, 2008 01:02:18 PM
Because Indy 4 was pretty weak.
Totally off topic... by STLost	Jun 5th, 2008 01:07:22 PM
but where is Father Geek? I remember he used to write a bit on the site, and now that I think about it, I haven't seen much from him on here. Or have I just not been looking in the right places?
blackhole4140 by Herb West	Jun 5th, 2008 01:08:28 PM
I just gotta know. What is this crapping the pants reference?
But didn't Harry also like Indy 4 by rutan07	Jun 5th, 2008 01:13:13 PM
Not really sure if anyone else has said this but Harry also liked the new Indiana Jones so his reviews may be suspect from now until forever. But I do hope Hulk is good.
"and I think I came a little" by Trazadone	Jun 5th, 2008 01:14:36 PM
That's just gross dude.
Hahahah i just read this on Box office guru by Series7	Jun 5th, 2008 01:18:56 PM
Has nothing to do with Hulk but its funny. Last weekend, the 179 years of life experience of Parker-Cattrall-Davis-Nixon pulled an upset victory over the 190 years of Ford-Spielberg-Lucas as it was truly no country for old men.
Ghost of Señor Nixon by kevinwillis.net	Jun 5th, 2008 01:25:58 PM
Fuck you, dude. The EPA? OSHA? The EOC? Price controls? What the hell we're you thinking? You started us down this road with your big government administration (not to mention, your brilliant move in creating the EPA) so don't take it out on me. In reality, I imagine the market will intervene/adjust/correct before we're paying $15 bucks a gallon for gasoline--I believe I mentioned a likely market correction in the oil futures market. On the other hand, without tapping our own supplies and without building new domestic refineries, there's not too many places for the price to move but up. Best solution will be to work at home, and live really close to a movie theater. Subscribe to Netflix. Eat things that don't depend on corn or other bio-fuel sources for their production.
Herb West... by blackhole4140	Jun 5th, 2008 01:26:09 PM
Harry took his nephew to the original Hulk when the kid was still in diapers. Harry noted in his review that the kid soiled himself. Pretty infamous stuff.
Brunomac by Herb West	Jun 5th, 2008 01:28:10 PM
It wasn't that bad, it was just weak. Personally, knowing what I know now, I would wait for the DVD.
Is this even a review of the movie? by performingmonkey	Jun 5th, 2008 01:30:27 PM
Whatever, I'm seeing it, there's no doubt about that! Iron Man was a hell of a lot better than it had any right to be.
Series7: I enjoyed Crouching Tiger by kevinwillis.net	Jun 5th, 2008 01:35:20 PM
And Sense and Sensibility was a perfectly good Jane Austen adaptation. I've never seen Eat Drink Man Woman . . . but Ang Lee has never won me over. Nothing about the new Hulk reboot has made me worry too much, and references to the series seem entirely appropriate to me. I guess I'll know when I see it, but I'm definitely looking forward to a regular (super-soldier) guy battling it out with the Hulk. I like that idea more than Abomination, or Hulk battle electricity, a lake, and giant poodles. Star Trek: The Motion Picture is still a great movie. I really enjoyed Wrath of Kahn, was never a big fan of the others . . . but I still love the first film. Persis Khambatta as Lt. Ilia (and then the voice of V'ger). The sound effects of the cloud (and the groovy fx). Spock suiting up to mind-meld with V'ger. Finally reaching the heart of the cloud, only to find out it was one of our satellites . . . plus, the set and the costumes. Was never quite happy about how they handled the transporter fx in ST1, but a mild, overly-geeky criticism. And Shatner wasn't fat yet. A great movie.
Brunomac by Herb West	Jun 5th, 2008 01:36:52 PM
Good call on that sack of shit.
Ang Lee = George Lucas by kevinwillis.net	Jun 5th, 2008 01:37:49 PM
BTW, I think Heath Ledger was an incredible actor. It took a fine director like Ang Lee to get what I consider a rotten, almost unbearable performance out of him in Brokeback Mountain. Only George Lucas can get worse performances out of great actors.
Was Indy 4 Really That Bad? by kevinwillis.net	Jun 5th, 2008 01:41:23 PM
The answer is yes and no. I think it's on the same level as The Last Crusade. Imperfect, but enjoyable as long as you don't expect it to live up to the experience of seeing Raiders (or, IMHO, Temple of Doom). All the things you've heard are true, however, so if they sound bad, I'd suggest you stay away. The monkeys were frickin' weird and just didn't work, but . . . the alien MacGuffin was okay, but how it was resolved was--ah, less than perfect. You can probably wait for DVD. Unless, like Harry (and me), you really love Indy and have to see it no matter what, and give even the stupid shit a pass cuz it's a new Indy movie.
Gatsby by thebearovingian	Jun 5th, 2008 01:43:24 PM
What happens when you can't pay for food or shelter or gas because you're being taxed to death paying for said universal healthcare, FRIEND? I'm sorry for whatever happened to your mom (or someone's mom you know or someone's mom you saw/read about in a news piece or article). Yes, life sucks sometimes. Apparently you have no faith in your fellow man's spirit of giving and thus seek the government to force it upon them.
Holy dear fuck by Herb West	Jun 5th, 2008 01:45:03 PM
Does anyone talk about movies on the movie talkbacks anymore? Christ.
kevinwillis.net the reason you find his performance by g-ride9000	Jun 5th, 2008 01:45:40 PM
weak is because you are a homophobic prick. You can't sit a dog down to watch a movie about cats...he'll just bark thought the whole movie. For the record, his performance was pretty good. kevinwillis.net, do you have some info on the intricacies of gay relationships? fill us in.
What happens when Norton refuses '2'?? by wilsonfisk89	Jun 5th, 2008 01:47:43 PM
Re-Re-Casting? 3 Banners in five years?
Memories-Of-Mundane by g-ride9000	Jun 5th, 2008 01:50:09 PM
Tell us what else stupid audiences do or do not deserve. Tell us what it would be like, if Mundane ruled the world!!
Harry, did you ask about Norton, or what? by Arch_Stanton	Jun 5th, 2008 01:50:27 PM
Do we know why he's not promoting the flick? (If it's even true that he's not)
Indy 4 is like Search for Spock by zooch	Jun 5th, 2008 01:51:59 PM
Not the best in the series, but a good Star Trek film if you can stomach the ridiculous-ness of the plot, just like Indy 4. Definently seeing the HULK now!
Marvel Universe by SUPERJIM	Jun 5th, 2008 01:52:16 PM
I love Harry's enthusiasm towards the realisation of this, and totally agree it would be great and definitely should be done and done well. However, how much do you want to bet they will fuck it up? You will get one up-their-own-arse director refusing to take on a certain style of some small detail from another director and it will all fall to pieces it a lot of different ways. I mean look at something like Harry Potter. They are fuckin sequels and they still change an unbelievable amount of tiny things from one to the next for no apparent reason. Things that there was nothing with in the first place and you only actually notice they are there because they change them. I don't ask for them to all use the same style, the movies are much better because they don't but why fuck with the smallest details which take you out of the film? I hope I am wrong.
Does anyone know.... by Herb West	Jun 5th, 2008 01:55:05 PM
Is the new Punisher movie going to be part of this new and improved Marvel universe? Anyone?
Herb West - It's Harry's fault. by thebearovingian	Jun 5th, 2008 01:55:38 PM
He doesn't review movies worth shit and then he throws in political potshots for good measure.
thebearovingian by Herb West	Jun 5th, 2008 01:58:33 PM
Yeah, I know. Sometimes it's cool to have a political debate on AICN, but like in this case, it just doesn't work.
re: asking about Norton by Kraken	Jun 5th, 2008 01:59:36 PM
Yes he did. They told him that Norton is doing interviews and fully supporting the movie. Gale Hurd said she was doing an interview with him today about the movie.
It's really sad that DC didn't beat Marvel to the punch... by Cletus Van Damme	Jun 5th, 2008 01:59:53 PM
...I mean, when WB bought DC way back (was it the early 90's?), that is where a cinematic universe should've begun. Don't get me wrong, I'm as big a Marvel fan as the next guy, I cut my comic teeth on Spider-Man during the first appearance-era of the Hobgoblin, but DC heroes just seem bigger-scale to me. It's sad to me that WB couldn't have done this a decade and a half ago and have done justice (no pun intended) to a Justice League movie, or several, by now, instead of treating us to Joel Shitmaker and his gay bat-stravaganzas. What's more is that Marvel even pulled this off with a few misifres in the mix...Blade, Ghost Rider, the Ang Lee Hulk (maybe you could even argue the FF movies and SM3). DC, I love you, man...but you have to get your heads out of your ass and operate.
Also, if Sony is smart by Kraken	Jun 5th, 2008 02:00:35 PM
They'll slate a Spider-Man 4 that can also get Spider-Man into the Avengers movie.
Still. . . by Darth_Kaos	Jun 5th, 2008 02:05:20 PM
as I read all these glowing reviews, I'm still a little concerned. I love it that Marvel has control, and not the studio hacks. But, I can't shake my doubts. Again, IRONMAN was good, a bit overrated, but very good. Ed Norton is one our generations great actors, and like Robert Downey will/has delivered an awesome performance. The trailers got better and better, so maybe if I'm not doing anything I will check it out. I usually don't listen to reviewers (they were so wrong about Indy 4. . .it sucked!), but I'll wait to hear back from the real movie reviewers. . the actual movie viewer.
Didn't Spider-Man.... by Herb West	Jun 5th, 2008 02:06:07 PM
have a Tony Stark power suit when he joined the Avengers once? That's fucking idiotic.
Cletus Van Damme by Herb West	Jun 5th, 2008 02:15:36 PM
I think that if WB/DC would have attempted that back in the day, they would have fucked up so bad that they may never have recovered.
Herb West.... by Cletus Van Damme	Jun 5th, 2008 02:16:59 PM
...you're probably right, but that's pretty much what Batman & Robin did to them anyway.
Reinstein is not alive by HEADGEEK	Jun 5th, 2008 02:17:27 PM
of course he died - but his formula - although not the complete process is alive. Like I said - they didn't zeta ray Blonsky.
Cletus Van Damme by Herb West	Jun 5th, 2008 02:19:30 PM
Yeah, that's true. But can you imagine a Justice League movie that fucked up on that scale?
Universe not complete until... by batfunk	Jun 5th, 2008 02:23:44 PM
Shame we never got to see a fully realised Steve Gerber (RIP) approved Howard The Duck movie (one that didn't suck). How great would it have been to see Howard commenting on government sponsored corruption in the guise of George W And Dick C! Shame Bill Hicks is dead too!
Herb West by Cletus Van Damme	Jun 5th, 2008 02:24:47 PM
Yeah....I myself would never fully recover from that.
Reinstein is not alive? by Herb West	Jun 5th, 2008 02:26:12 PM
So what is it-just the name on the canister? That could still be cool, I guess.
Brunomac by Herb West	Jun 5th, 2008 02:33:34 PM
Amen, brother.
The Truth About Ed Norton by HEADGEEK	Jun 5th, 2008 02:35:58 PM
The official story is that Norton is doing press for the film - and promotion. He co-presented with Liv Tyler on the MTV MOVIE AWARDS, he just sat down to do a host of EPK for the film - and apparently he'll be doing a limited amount of press. -- The day after Nikki Finke reported he'd stormed off the movie, he was in ADR doing work on the film with the producers. Did he have a disagreement with the final cut of the film? We couldn't get that really answered - but I'll tell you my feelings. The original opening in Ed's script started with a Suicide in the Arctic. Which underlined how much he wanted to get rid of the curse. It was a very well written scene - and you'll see it on the Video Game - and I suspect that you'll be seeing it on DVD. There was also more exposition and extended flashbacks to his origins - and a whole sequence of Banner sitting down and talking to Doc Samson (pre-gamma'd) - but a lot of that is gone. I kinda missed the suicide opening of the film - but frankly - that would take away the punch of the "Helicopter" moment later in the film... or re-enforce the idea that there was no risk. There is a longer cut of this movie. But in that cut - I imagine it would take approximately an extra 20 minutes to get the HULK on screen - and that they didn't want to go over that stuff intensely - because I think they get that we get how Bruce became the HULK. But whatever the discussion they had, Ed is apparently going to be supportive of the film - and it looks like they've worked through a lot of the issues.
also, KurtLockwood by Gatsbys West Egg Omlet	Jun 5th, 2008 02:36:43 PM
MARVEL didn't slaughter Dark Phoenix, Fox did.
Harry by Herb West	Jun 5th, 2008 02:42:29 PM
Do you think they got rid of those scenes so that it wouldn't be as dramatic as what Ang Lee's Hulk was?
hey rassmguy, by Gatsbys West Egg Omlet	Jun 5th, 2008 02:47:00 PM
the name of this website isn't a real word. why would its writers need to be professional or mature? it doesn't make sense to come here and bitch about shit like that. go read the Entertainment Weekly's review, if you care about copy editing so much.
Harry, no offense intended by only1	Jun 5th, 2008 02:49:11 PM
I KNOW you are a comic geek as well, you've documented that well here on the site. It just seems like the movie relies too much on the TV show and you are stoked over that. Bruce (BRUCE... not David!) Banner is first and foremost a scientist. In all actuality, in the comic book he was the lone hitchhiker rarely. Tortured soul... yes... and that's what works. But in the book he set down roots, worked in his proffesstion and did what he could as the Hulk. I do love that line from the trailer when Norton says something to the effect of "but if I can learn to control it." That has a VERY comic book feel to the character. I actually got Ang Lee's Hulk movie... but I was tuned into production from the begining and know he was going for more of a 'human' story than action... and that was his mistake... it was the story Lee wanted to tell over the story fans wanted to see. I still say it was Nolte's best performance in a decade and not bad as a movie... just a bit more action and no mutant poodles. (and Harry... I asked if you READ any comics, not owned... joking!) I actually have faith in this movie... I can't wait to see it but I am surprised at how many people I know are on the fence... all because of Lee's movie. It's been 4 years... maybe Marvel should have waited a bit longer. only question... when do we get a RED Hulk? :-D
i was there. even got to ask a question. by captainCAPSLOCK	Jun 5th, 2008 02:51:01 PM
highly skeptical when i heard about this movie...fortunately i got to find out for free last night that this movie has some balls!
Hey.... by Herb West	Jun 5th, 2008 02:52:06 PM
If the Thing gets to have sex, then why not the Hulk?
don't know what they'd do in a sequel though. by captainCAPSLOCK	Jun 5th, 2008 02:56:17 PM
i think they should just let this marinate for a few years and bring Banner back in after Avengers.
I liked Indy IV, and I have faith in Marvel. by ZeroCorpse	Jun 5th, 2008 03:00:55 PM
Harry's got a greak geek barometer, and I think he's probably right on this review. Time will tell, but either way I'm looking forward to the Cinematic Marvel Universe (and I have been trying to explain that the Cinematic Marvel Universe is it's own place, and NOT the Ultimate or 616 universe. I LIKE it this way. It gives us long-time readers something to look forward to besides regurgitating old stories.)
What's the deal about the Leader... by Herb West	Jun 5th, 2008 03:01:48 PM
that we have been hearing about?
All I've got to say is this: by Jack Spyder	Jun 5th, 2008 03:02:22 PM
HULK SMASH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!
Brunomac by Herb West	Jun 5th, 2008 03:03:43 PM
Isn't that what happened in the Avenger's comics from the 60's or whatever?
That's something else..... by Herb West	Jun 5th, 2008 03:07:26 PM
How do they think they are going to bring Thor or Loki into this new Marvel universe that is supposed to be grounded in reality so well?
thebearovingian, if you're around... by Gatsbys West Egg Omlet	Jun 5th, 2008 03:10:47 PM
i refuse to believe that we couldn't, granted with a lot of work and rearrangement of funds, socialize medicine without creating huge breaks in our way of life. back to my cancer metaphor, who is my fellow man that is going to give to mine and everyone else's cause? my church? my work? my friends? don' they all have their own issues? won't they be asking for the same help eventually? and isn't this a government of the people, by the people, and for the people? isn't my government supposed to be my fellow man? whatever. hulk smash.
nukedthefridge by Herb West	Jun 5th, 2008 03:16:24 PM
Fucking hilarious.
Brunomac by Herb West	Jun 5th, 2008 03:18:23 PM
Yeah, I remembered something like that.
stormeyes447 by Herb West	Jun 5th, 2008 03:20:33 PM
Those are Marvel's new rules, not mine.
Watch Nuked the fridge will get banned now by KneelBeforeZod1	Jun 5th, 2008 03:27:04 PM
Because I got banned under another name just for saying nuke the fridge! What a fucking fat faggot
on a tangent by muddstick	Jun 5th, 2008 03:29:01 PM
I like the crazy tangents these threads go on. Star Trek TMP? Crap movie btw, but at least they did good with the second one. Liked Iron Man, probably check this out. Not sold on the Avengers. That'll be a tough one to pull off.
KneelBeforeZod1 by Herb West	Jun 5th, 2008 03:29:25 PM
Tell us more.
KneelBeforeZod1 by Herb West	Jun 5th, 2008 03:37:15 PM
I dare you to tell us more.
OK by KneelBeforeZod1	Jun 5th, 2008 03:45:07 PM
I was The Nipples of God. Then I saw the site for Nuked the fridge .com. So I came on here and told people to check it out! all I said was nukedthefidge.com check it out! looks like AICN has a little competition! 2 days later BANNED
I'll be there in the opening day by Jack Spyder	Jun 5th, 2008 03:45:29 PM
I trust Harry, but it's beyond this. I have a really good feeling about this, and I think that The Incredible Hulk can end up coming as a better film than even Iron Man. I mean, this is like the best year for all comic movie geeks out there. Make it mine, Marvel. PS: HULK SMASH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Probably get banned again for that! by KneelBeforeZod1	Jun 5th, 2008 03:45:52 PM

Punisher: War Zone will wipe away the hope... by alienindisguise	Jun 5th, 2008 03:46:25 PM
I still want the stand alone Silver Surfer flick and yeah, Im pretty hyped for the Captain America flick. I agree with the call for a Spiderman reboot and this time, get the continuity right and make the Goblin look like he should.
SCALE in the Comic Cineverse by wilsonfisk89	Jun 5th, 2008 03:57:00 PM
One glaring omission from comic films is the sense of the scale and grandeur of the universe. For instance, The Dark Pheonix saga in X3 and Supes Returns could have opened up the cosmos for a larger scale, that we are used to in the source text. Without doing so, the stories seem stuffy, self contained. The single greatest sequence is Supes was when he left the earth to look down on it from the stars.
Yeah... well.... by Fenrisulfr	Jun 5th, 2008 04:07:49 PM
You talk a lot of the Marvel universe, but not much about the flick itself, Harry. Your "I love, love, love" isn't that convincing to me.
guess this kills any possibility of... by BMacSmith	Jun 5th, 2008 04:33:24 PM
a Captain America WWII period flick. too bad. I would have liked to see that.
BMac by PresidentBauer	Jun 5th, 2008 04:42:03 PM
How does that kill a Cap movie?
For those of you who thought Star Trek:The Motion Picture was go by rogueleader66	Jun 5th, 2008 05:00:20 PM
Go watch the episode from the original series called "The Changeling" and you will see that ST:TMP is just an over budgeted, overly long, not very interesting remake of that episode, and not nearly as good as its source material. I love Trek but really hated ST:TMP. Now as far as Harry's review of the Hulk, while I may not always agree with his opinion, I trust it way more than so called "mainstream" critics. I have been psyched for this one from the get go, and now even more so.
Dark Phoenix.... by rogueleader66	Jun 5th, 2008 05:03:17 PM
In Rattner's film was not that good, I suppose if you didn't know anything about her from the comics she would be ok. But knowing the comic version, all she was in X3 was a watered down version. Granted she had awesome power, but little else.
Changeling... by muddstick	Jun 5th, 2008 05:08:31 PM
That's the episode, thanks Rogueleader66. I hear they stuffed some subplots from the proposed second series in to fill the movie out.
yea sucks dosen't it by KneelBeforeZod1	Jun 5th, 2008 05:10:17 PM
I love that name too!
Apparantly It has happened to other people too by KneelBeforeZod1	Jun 5th, 2008 05:13:09 PM

muddstick by rogueleader66	Jun 5th, 2008 05:18:51 PM
I don't know about the subplot stuff, I didn't care enough about ST:TMP to notice anything else, I had enough trouble staying awake, much less noticing any subplots. Either way, ST:TMP still sucked. Thank god they redeemed themselves with Wrath Of Khan, now THAT was Star Trek.
I demand a explanation for this outrage! by KneelBeforeZod1	Jun 5th, 2008 05:21:24 PM
Come to me Harry you fat faggot! come and explain yourself before Zod!! ZOD!!!!!!!
Sorry Harry... by Jabroni	Jun 5th, 2008 05:23:23 PM
I'll take bio-fuel at 35 cents a gallon. Over blowing a load over a goddam Avengers film. I've been on the fence about this movie since the 1st one sucked so much ass, plus it sounds like I have to be the ultimate geek to get all the Marvel "shout outs". Unlike many on this board, I have a life and I don't have time to research the backgrounds of every character in these movies. And while superhero movies are cool most of the time, I'm getting burned out on all this "geek fare" there's more out there that comic books to make movies out of. Not that you can tell. What I do know is the Transporter movies sucked serious ass, and the only thing that might make me see this is Norton is full sell-out mode on this. DVD release should be better.
Harry, I like your enthusiasm.... by Iron Giant	Jun 5th, 2008 05:26:16 PM
I hope the movie and the universe are just as awesome as you describe. I'm a little puzzled by the Reinstein reference though. The super-soldier serum was developed and administered by Dr. Abraham Erskine if my ubergeek memory recalls correctly.
if hulk is a sucess by GavinVanDraven	Jun 5th, 2008 05:26:53 PM

AICNs right-wingers by d_fens1969	Jun 5th, 2008 05:27:36 PM
Make me fucking sick. Still daring to defend neo-conservative bullshit after 8 years of a neocon president and his moronic cabinet. Biofuels, universal healthcare, immigrants, etc. all the big bad wolf to them. Well, last time I checked, we've had a president who was completely against all that, a profiteering oil industry, children who go without checkups, and pointless mess in Iraq. It sure aint liberalism run amuck that got america in the mess its in now. Though as mush-mouthed and weak liberals are so far when it comes to neocons like you fucking idiots, its bound to stay that way for a while.
fucking cat on the keyboard.... by GavinVanDraven	Jun 5th, 2008 05:27:42 PM
does this happen to everybody?
if this hulk is successful by GavinVanDraven	Jun 5th, 2008 05:30:55 PM
i have really great hopes for the marvel franchise. what are the odds that they can get the rights back to all of their properties to form a cohesive universe.... sony has spidey, fox has x-men and so forth? oh yeah, and MIKE O'HEARN should be THOR
Hey,you got some thing wrong by daquietman	Jun 5th, 2008 05:43:03 PM
For your information, the doctor that created Captain America was not Reinstein, it was Dr. Erskine. Please pay more attention before you tell fans whats what. While I realize the hulk is going to be good. Some new fans to comics are going to be mislead. Have a nice day
Moriarty needs to give his Hulk analysis by BDuncan	Jun 5th, 2008 05:46:17 PM
Harry didn't give much of a critical evaluation of the film. The marketing and effort to get positive word of mouth generated on this film has been rather poor from Universal in my country. I don't see it doing as well as Iron Man.
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Harry!!! by oisin5199	Jun 5th, 2008 06:21:27 PM
Thank god for this site and your reviews to remind people of the childlike joy of good cinema. And being roughly the same age as you, I grew up with similar fantasies of a Marvel cineverse. Let the haters say what you want, but I love how infectious your writing is. It makes me want to run out to the theater this second. But then they'll tell me it doesn't open until next week. Where's my pre-screening tickets? Capone!!!
Count me in as excited also. by mrfan	Jun 5th, 2008 06:25:03 PM
Great review Harry. That is the kind of excitement and passion I love in a movie viewer.
WOOPS! I MEANT TEAR by KneelBeforeZod1	Jun 5th, 2008 06:25:56 PM
QUESS I CAN'T BE AS GOOD AS THE POWERFULY FAT HARRY NOLES, WHO BANNES PEOPLE FOR NO GOOD REASON!
I KNOW I SPELLED HIS NAME WRONG TOO by KneelBeforeZod1	Jun 5th, 2008 06:40:06 PM
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Harry, my dear rotund friend... by Quintus_Arrius	Jun 5th, 2008 07:04:53 PM
.....I absolutely, unashamedly loved your review. Thou hath indeed made this old admiral emotional. Your general exuberance and enthusiasm for this motion picture; the story of the child being completely beguiled by the manifestation of the green beast forcing him to fall prostrate to the ground while admonishing the learned to reveal if the retched character named Banner hath indeed altered his state of mind and being has utterly captured my imagination. I for one cannot wait for the arrival of this motion picture to the cherished shores of England – the land of my dwelling. Hail the young impressionable mind of a 7 year old nephew and the 7 year-olds in all of us geeks. Indeed, HAIL the mighty frame (and mind) of one Harry Knowles.... and... HAIL ARRIUS!
Indeed... by Quintus_Arrius	Jun 5th, 2008 07:07:59 PM
... it is good to be back! Hail!
To d_fens1969, etc., IT WON'T WORK by jorson28	Jun 5th, 2008 07:15:58 PM
That's the trouble with liberals and their reactions to conservatives - not only do they defend free speech only when it's their speech, but they can go on and on about why the conservative policy doesn't work, but can't EVER cough up factual data about how to make the liberal policy work much better. I don't care what the "truth" is about Bush or the Republicans or the "neo-cons," Universal Healthcare in the United States, besides having no place in an INCREDIBLE HULK review to begin with, is an impossibility in the long-run, not because the idea itself is bad but because it would have to serve way too large a population and force a healthcare industry to completely change its expectations and conditions. At least initially, healthcare professionals would, realistically and most likely, have to accept a significant cut in wages and expected payment from the federal insurance company, or whatever would be administrating it. Let's just say for the moment that doctors aren't used to living high on the hog (yeah, right...) - you'd still have a crisis everywhere else because hospitals have been desperate for good nursing staff for about as long as I can remember. I know - my father has been a registered nurse for nearly 30 years, and even though he's a Democrat, even he knows this crap wouldn't work. It would also sentence an epidemic number of chronically ill patients prone to emergencies to getting worse or to death because no matter how hard they or their caretakers work, how much money they have or make or how sick they are, in an emergency or otherwise, they'd still have to wait in a much longer line for probably a year or so along with everyone else because everyone's got the same insurance. That's an estimate based on an article I read several years ago about heart patients in Canada being put on waiting lists for what, here, would be simple heart surgery, for a year or more. It's pick-a-number, like at the DMV . Given that statistics show that more and more people are going to doctors and getting healthcare procedures done more frequently, that's what every emergency room and probably every hospital and clinic and doctor's office would likely resemble - the DMV at the absolute busiest time of any day. Programs like Medicare, which I'm forced to be on since I was born with a congenital disease and am essentially uninsurable, are essentially miniature forms of this "Universal Healthcare" - which, by the way, is really just universal health coverage - and it's practically bust as it is. Yeah, I said I was otherwise uninsurable, but since my condition will only get worse (my mother has it, so I know), under universal healthcare, my lifespan would probably be cut in half simply for lack of efficient treatment. In conclusion, as has already been said, this country couldn't pay for it without an unheard-of tax increase and it wouldn't work long-term unless you could force EVERYONE to be on it. You also couldn't sustain it because this is a democratic republic with elections in practically every branch of government - unlike Cuba, we get leaders in and out of the executive and legislative branches of government every 4 to 8 years (or less) that have DIFFERENT viewpoints and policies - so by the time such a program had existed long enough to even begin to work out its kinks, we'd likely have a brand new administration aiming to get rid of it. You'd need a monarchy or a dictatorship to make it work AT ALL, which should only be obvious since out of the three so-called shining examples always brought up - Canada, Cuba and Venezuela - two out of the three ARE or have recently been dictatorships. Again, Harry should have never brought it up because it had no place in this or most other movie reviews, but if you're going to call names and put down conservatives, try actually backing up your own ideas and offering solutions that make sense in the REAL WORLD in the LONG TERM. By the way, I'm looking forward to the new HULK despite the occasional vulgar review that veers way off-course once in a while. It's sad because I really liked the last review of Harry's I can remember reading, which I think was of the new Indiana Jones movie.
I'll be there... by Lance4431	Jun 5th, 2008 07:21:25 PM
next weekend and I'll judge the film then and only then.
DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD by Herb West	Jun 5th, 2008 07:28:52 PM
You still here?
So wait, it IS a continuation of Ang Lee's movie? by J-Dizzle	Jun 5th, 2008 07:55:11 PM
I'm confused.
After Alexander and Speedracer, I by ganymede3010	Jun 5th, 2008 08:42:05 PM

I learned to never listen to Harry's reviews. by ganymede3010	Jun 5th, 2008 08:42:27 PM

this is how it'll get fucked up by cheifchirpa3000	Jun 5th, 2008 09:03:11 PM
they'll hire brendan "i already played a million characters" fraiser as capt america and it'll be weak, with some weak director, and then thor will be lame (galactus lame) and thenthe'll fuck up spiderman 4 by casting brett ratner as spidey and then some other avenger chracters movie will star shia labeuf and when the real avengers comes out it'll be awesome with ed norton (if he's not already thinking about stepping down from the hulk 2) and robert downey jr and a cast of lesser quality loser actors nd it'll be worse than spidey 3 and ff 1 and 2 and the whole dream will be ruined untill summer 2030.
Harry cums too much in movie theaters by EbertsFatThumb	Jun 5th, 2008 09:31:17 PM
and babbles on about how he loves every movie before the climax. Yes I love you Hulk! No I never loved Speedracer. Only you you you uggggghhhh splat.
Quintus_Arrius : You're like a ghost from the past. by thebearovingian	Jun 5th, 2008 10:15:21 PM
Do you ever go back and check the dead talkbacks you posted in? You're probably not "LAST" anymore. Why did you choose to come back to the present?
Nuked the fridge just jumped the shark by rhcp2sweet	Jun 5th, 2008 10:17:51 PM
If people are really getting deleted for using the term "nuked the fridge" than Harry and co. are sick bastards
Somebody call Penn and Teller quick. by GQtaste	Jun 5th, 2008 10:24:22 PM
Because that was some bullshit. I don't know if the film will be good or not but when Harry doens't even describe or give us anything to go by except how much it gave him a hard on. and in the past, he's given high praise for some bullshit films. Anything by Tarantino, Rodiquez, Del Toro, Lord of Rings dude, etc. Most recently, Indy 4. Too many red flags to begin w/. Norton pulling a diva move and went pouting as he's done in the past. Imo, an unproven director and trailers look dull and cheap looking. In short, i'll believe when I see it.
I want to piss on the parade! by greenstyle92	Jun 5th, 2008 10:25:44 PM
I want to open my fly, reveal my wee little limp man hood, and send a stream of burning piss into this film's face! coheasive Marvel universe will suck!
I believe all the hype is making me lose my excitement. by YouAreAllMyBastardChildren	Jun 5th, 2008 10:32:11 PM
Yes, my bastard children, I am losing my giant green HULK-Y boner. That is why I hate you, my little bastards.
WILL CLOVERCRAB BE AN AVENGER? by BringingSexyBack	Jun 5th, 2008 10:43:17 PM
He'll need a BIG costume
I LOVED STAR TREK THE MOTION PICTURE!! by BringingSexyBack	Jun 5th, 2008 10:45:13 PM
When I found out Vger was Voyager, I came a lot!!!
This is a lie by somethingcool	Jun 5th, 2008 10:46:58 PM
There is no actual review on this page.
If Indy climbed into the fridge by kolchak	Jun 5th, 2008 10:50:47 PM
and then launched himself at Bruce Banner at full speed, there would no longer be any hulk. All that would remain are those ripped up jeans fluttering in the wind.
THIS MIGHT BE YOUR LAST CHANCE TO SEE SPEED RACER... by Chishu_Ryu	Jun 5th, 2008 11:19:42 PM
...on the big screen, as Incredible Hulk may bump it out of theaters. I saw it a 3rd time the other night dragging with me two film geeks kicking and screaming, who came out of the theater 2 1/2 hours later completely dazzled. See it now, cuz it won't be the same on a TV in your living room.
Oh, and SPEED RACER keeps getting better... by Chishu_Ryu	Jun 5th, 2008 11:21:49 PM
...each time I see it. That's the mark of a great film, when it improves with multiple viewings.
HULK RASH!!!!! by BringingSexyBack	Jun 5th, 2008 11:44:06 PM
Hulk itch. Scratch Hulk!!!!!!
OH, AND HULK POODLE SENDS NEW HULK HOME CRYING... by Chishu_Ryu	Jun 5th, 2008 11:50:41 PM
...FOR SHE-HULK. "HULK POODLE BITE HULK! HULK POODLE HURT HULK! HULK NOT WANT TO PLAY ANYMORE!"
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I fucking hate Harry's Reviews.. their so vague.. its nothing we by sleeptones	Jun 6th, 2008 12:53:58 AM
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this is hilarious by slopreilly1	Jun 6th, 2008 01:02:45 AM

Where's the DVD update from the last couple weeks? by Ben Addiction	Jun 6th, 2008 01:20:16 AM
I know you just had surgery and all, but if you can't do it you could delegate to make sure it's done. You know, just so you can maintain a professional site. That's how Ebert's show and website have been able to function despite his recent health problems.
I paid for Indy by CuervoJones	Jun 6th, 2008 01:33:26 AM
And loved that fridge scene, as anyone in the theatre.
Harry needs a reality check by hoisin	Jun 6th, 2008 03:28:08 AM
I know you love, live and breathe film Harry...but if your reviews of Kingdom of the Crystal Skull, Speed Racer and now this are so over the top I just don't trust what you have to say anymore. You are too over the top, too enthusiastic...which wouldn't be a bad thing if it didn't blinker you to the truth that these films just aren't as good as you let your internal hype say they are. In short, calm the fuck down!
Stan Lee in a Cameo ! That's a fucking first by G100	Jun 6th, 2008 04:03:06 AM
Jesus man we GET it already.
No offense . . . by Charles Martel	Jun 6th, 2008 04:13:54 AM
but, for fuck's sake, lay off the politics (universal "health" care). And I know it's not cool to slam someone's poor grammar - Lord knows mine is bad - but, c'mon, this is pathetic. Your grammar and punctuation and English has never been good, but this is embarrassing. Seriously, sir, you can be effective in portraying a conversational style of writing without coming across semi-retarded. In fact, I'd wager a decent sum that your articles might even be MORE effective given at least a 6th grade level of accuracy.
gotham night by Abominable Snowcone	Jun 6th, 2008 07:38:46 AM
It's true: notwithstanding the rifle he threw on the ground in the warehouse, Indy does not fire a shot. You gotta think that was intentional by Spiel-Cas in order to familysize the movie a little. He cocks his gun and ALMOST shoots kangaroo boy at the graveyard, but kanga-boy scurries off. They could have easily had Indy just shoot that fucker dead. That's what I wanted to see. I fondly recall that lots of guys were shot in "Raiders." In the Nepal barfight, the Cairo swordsman, and throughout the movie. Indy even uses his gun to open jammed airplane cockpits. And Indy himself was shot in the arm during the truck chase, with blood spattering across the windshield. That stuff was effective because it reminded you that, hey, this guy is human despite his heroics, and he can be hurt, and there's a chance he won't get out of this alive. Real heroes get shot, and love it.
Um.... Where is the review part? by W3bzpinn3r	Jun 6th, 2008 09:01:10 AM
That was a great "What if" post on the future possibilities, but what about the actual movie? Once again, Harry falls short of actually doing a review and does a ramble. C'mon Mori, review this movie so that REAL cinema goers know if it's worth wasting precious petroleum to see this movie at an insane ticket cost, or just wait for the double-dip DVD in the special Marvel 8-in-1 Collector's boxset.
Did Harry even review the Incredible Hulk in this review? by TVguy4566	Jun 6th, 2008 09:45:09 AM
Personally, I don't care 1/10th as much about a Marvel Universe on film as Harry does. I want a good film, not just a bunch of cameos of characters from Marvel characters showing up on screen. That only satisfies the comic book geeks of the world which is probably only 5% of the people who will see this movie. I got nothing from this review because Harry seems to be so juiced that so many Marvel characters were introduced and future villians were revealed that he probably would have forgive this movie if it was a huge pile of cow dung. What this review had about two dozen paragraphs and only two were actually about the movie itself. Jesus Harry, you gushed on and on about Tim Blake Nelson and him playing Samuel Sterns (I had to Google both to know who they were) and how he could potentially be a villian in future movies, but not even a mention of Tim Roth and his Emil Blonsky/Abomination character who is the ACTUAL VILLIAN in this movie. How do you want people to be juiced about a future potential villian who may never see the silver screen as the main villian when we don't even know if it is worth seeing the villian of this film?
Speed Racer by Series7	Jun 6th, 2008 09:50:12 AM
Chishu_Ryu is right, Speed Racer is still showing in most markets, but will probably be gone next weekend. GO see it if you haven't! Even if you don't like the Matrix, don't give a shit about the cartoon or don't like the actors. Its worth it, your missing out as a film geek if you haven't seen it on the big screen.
Glad to hear it's meeting (eveen exceeding) peoples expectations by Yeti	Jun 6th, 2008 10:13:29 AM
Really looking forward to seeing this one too!
nuke the fridge? Really? by TheLastCleric	Jun 6th, 2008 10:26:28 AM
Internet dweebs are the most faggoty, trendy assclowns around. By the way, Indy 4 is about to break 500 million worldwide(in two weeks no less) and the reviews remain generally positve. It's nice to know you shrill cunts have absolutely no influence on anything in this world, including box office revenue.
Judging From Harry's Reviews As Of Late by Autodidact	Jun 6th, 2008 11:06:44 AM
I'm going to assume this movie sucks balls completely.
Alas thebearovingian my dear friend... by Quintus_Arrius	Jun 6th, 2008 11:44:02 AM
... my time seems to belong in this dark realm. Hail all of the 'ovingian' kind! And Hail Arrius!
And HAIL HARRY KNOWLES by Quintus_Arrius	Jun 6th, 2008 11:55:41 AM

nuke the fridge? you are trying to hard..... by j2talk	Jun 6th, 2008 12:00:59 PM
sorry guys you are trying to hard its not going to catch on like Jump the shark......keep trying...
People are really pissed off... by spectrebeeyatch	Jun 6th, 2008 12:01:24 PM
Is it the gas prices? But you guys like really are upset about something. Did you like die five times in a row in Call of Duty or what? Also if people hate Indy 4 so much why does it come up in every TB! Also if 230 million is a bad number... holy shit. I read in Variety that studio execs are looking at 250 as a good number in the economy we are in. So Iron Man is a big hit and so is Indy(sorry) but you don't have to get pissed off. Who cares? These are movies we are talking about not sports teams. It's alright to get mad at your team or other teams or even others fans, for sports. We're talking about movies! There does not need to be so much anger. Just say what you thought about the movie and that's it. Taking the BO personally is just bad because in the end your getting your blood pressure raised over something that does not really effect you. Like do you get any money from the box office? No? Then don't worry about it.
But Harry by Abominable Snowcone	Jun 6th, 2008 12:06:37 PM
I'm waiting on a Rambo DVD review. Does the 2-disc version have a longer cut of the movie? I read somewhere that there's like a half hour we haven't seen.
spectrebeeyatch by Series7	Jun 6th, 2008 12:17:55 PM
Sooooo then how does some sports team winning or loseing effect me? Because if you care about movies box office numbers do effect you. But if you care about sports and your team loses, they will still play next year.
Indy 4 by bobjustbob	Jun 6th, 2008 12:37:12 PM
I didn't like it. But I'm glad I saw it. Strange that.
Remember that Star Trek:TMP was released by bobjustbob	Jun 6th, 2008 12:41:25 PM
unfinished. See that Directors Cut for the version that Wise wanted to make. That being said, those who didn't like the theatrical version will probably not care this newest version either.
Do you take adderal or oxycontin? by rsdigi	Jun 6th, 2008 01:06:19 PM
Cause you ramble on in your posts Harry like I use to when I was an addict, getting to the point at the last second.
How old is Harry? by McTreble	Jun 6th, 2008 01:08:44 PM
I mean, does the man have to use so much foul language? I'm no prude, and I can handle damn near anything, but how many F-words did this guy drop on a movie review. Here's a tip: it loses it's impact with every additional use. I can even forgive your excessive hyperbole, but you sound like a fourteen year old XBOX player. Grow up.
Off topic, buut Clint Eastwood got even more awesome today by blindambition238	Jun 6th, 2008 01:09:05 PM
He just went on record to say that Spike Lee should "shut his face" about criticizing his Iwo Jima movies for not having any African-America soldiers in the lead role (despite the obvious historical inaccuracies that would of entailed)... then he basically goes on to own him and other 'pc' critics of his works Rest of the excellent interview here: http://tinyurl.com/6gwf4r Is there someway we can canonize him?
I counted by McTreble	Jun 6th, 2008 01:11:42 PM
fifteen. Fifteen. Way to go.
There are other film sites u guys can check out by wilsonfisk89	Jun 6th, 2008 01:13:09 PM
Harry bashing is so stale at this point. He writes how he likes to write. Some of us like it, others deal, and yet some feel the need to bash every single review. This is his website. Its pretty damned good. If you do not like it, check out slashfilm, chud, comingsoon, and many more. In fact, slashfilm frequently bans commenters for simply being negative or disagreeing with their opinions, unlike this site, where ANYTHING goes. So, yes, Harry is a crazy writer, and writes the reviews he wants to write. Dig it, or leave...
Yep, it's the oxy's talking by rsdigi	Jun 6th, 2008 01:13:36 PM
I forgot the state Harry's in. Taking pain killers and writing on a computer don't mix. What's funny is I use to take down the rambles I wrote about. His stay. A review next time m'kay.
Captain America and Rambo by zooch	Jun 6th, 2008 01:15:55 PM
I think Captain America would work if they did it similar to Rambo. Like he's this elite super soldier called in to save POWs. Heck, get Stallone in to direct.
trailer by fatnomore11	Jun 6th, 2008 01:41:18 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =uuwfHvNyedw
trailer by fatnomore11	Jun 6th, 2008 01:41:24 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =uuwfHvNyedw
trailer by fatnomore11	Jun 6th, 2008 01:41:30 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =uuwfHvNyedw
Nuclear explosions and fridges and such….. by nukethefridge	Jun 6th, 2008 02:06:22 PM
Will referencing this really catch on??? Will people still be doing it in six months time??? Its hard to call but I say yes.
If what headgeek says is true.... by emeraldboy	Jun 6th, 2008 02:22:38 PM
Then Universal thought that Nortons take on the hulk was unsellable. I mean banner topping himself is very heavy stuff. Sucicide is real and it is a very serious issue. If norton had got his way it would have been very dark and edgy. but the movie would have died at the box office. I am glad that the row has been resolved. Who plays Banner next? I doubt that Norton will again or that universal will have him back.
I think with indy 4 by emeraldboy	Jun 6th, 2008 02:27:21 PM
they waited too long. 19 years is a hell of a gap.
If this is like your Indy 4 review . . . by BStecke	Jun 6th, 2008 02:42:32 PM
I'll be pretty pissed. Your review of that film, another that fans of the character have long awaited, makes me think you watched a totally different film than I did. Here's hoping
Ever since 9/11 speilberg has had problems with guns by emeraldboy	Jun 6th, 2008 02:58:26 PM
I dont know why. Maybe it has something to do with that Kidnap attempt all those years ago. I dont know why.
harry, you've expressed my enthusiasm well... by modern_lovers	Jun 6th, 2008 03:01:26 PM
and i guarantee you DC is already trying to figure out how they can "pull a Marvel"... i'm sorry, but there has never been this kind of fanboy excitement over any DC film project. i love love love the DC characters and movies, even liked superman strikes back or whatever, but this is like geek boner heaven with whipped cream and unthinkable possibilities. i'm excited to think where they could take the Marvel Cineverse in the next 5-10 years, but even more fucking geeked about what the next 20-30 years could bring. if they stick to this, we could start seeing some of the amazing far fetched stories that heretofore seemed unfilmable. like space wars and shit. i can't wait for hulk, thor, cap'n, even ant-man.... damn.
Harry, I cannot believe you have a... by mrfan	Jun 6th, 2008 04:28:58 PM
Hulk #1. I am green with envy (No pun intended).
This review gives me hope by Homer Sexual	Jun 6th, 2008 06:22:37 PM
Because the previews look so wretched! The whole theater has giggled at the trailers both times I've been at movies that showed it, due to the fake-ness of the Hulk. But I do love LaTerrier, so this is like, a ray of hope?
So isn't all that impressed with the movie as spoke about everyt by ODM	Jun 6th, 2008 06:25:22 PM
I only give a shit about the marvel cinematic universe if the film is any fucking good.
I hope you're right about this fatman.............. by crackerfarmboy	Jun 6th, 2008 07:40:23 PM
But then again you have a worse track record than the New York Knicks under Isiah Thomas. My fingers are crossed that his movie will be as awesome as Iron Man, setting up for Thor and Captain America.
Star Trek TMP? by muddstick	Jun 6th, 2008 08:33:46 PM
Terrible remake of a somewhat decent Trek episode. I can't believe people would defend that.
what the world needs now... by muddstick	Jun 6th, 2008 08:38:43 PM
is another movie review site. Because heaven knows there isn't enough of them.
Awesome review, Harry! by GimpInMyPants	Jun 6th, 2008 09:06:38 PM
It took years but Harry finally wrote a fantastic review. This review has gotten me so hyped for the movie where before I was merely hoping it was a decent flick. Bravo, Harold!
die hard 4 really carred the helecopter by sylvester stabone	Jun 6th, 2008 09:17:45 PM
nuking the fridge isnt anything new its been done in tons of movies. why str with indy 4? gd i wish i could remember but somehing really shark jumping happened in beverly hills cop 2. as long as its a good movie i can accept a few fridge nukings.
gremlins 2 really cemented the gremlin by sylvester stabone	Jun 6th, 2008 09:19:32 PM

ghostbusters 2 really reanimated the statue of liberty by sylvester stabone	Jun 6th, 2008 09:20:39 PM

phantom menace really midichlorioned the force by sylvester stabone	Jun 6th, 2008 09:21:38 PM

wizard of oz really tornadoed the house by sylvester stabone	Jun 6th, 2008 09:23:00 PM

evil dead 2 really chainsawed the arm by sylvester stabone	Jun 6th, 2008 09:23:39 PM

rocky 2 really beat the black guy by sylvester stabone	Jun 6th, 2008 09:29:30 PM

HARRY by OtisSpofford	Jun 6th, 2008 09:40:57 PM
Great review, and now I'm REALLY excited - Marvel has gone from laughingstock crap to movie badasses... Do you think Time Warner/DC will EVER get their heads out of their asses and give us great films with the Flash, Green Lantern, Legion of Superheroes, etc.?
blindambition238 - Nice Clint is the Man! by ComputerGuy68	Jun 6th, 2008 09:53:37 PM
I wish this site would drop the political bullshit, there is enough of it on TV and blogs. This is not "AintitPoliticalNews.com" This is a site for movie scoops and info, not a fucking political soapbox for left/right agendas. Harry should be ashamed of pushing it, does he not realize that his political rants will offend half of the readers in the U.S.? - No I am not Republican or Democrat, not American, but as an observer the political rants here are nothing but destructive. And I can see why people would leave this site to go to others. I'm not American and I come here less and less each month because of the political B.S. Your country is supposedly the leader of the free world, but you act like a bunch of fucking children. GROW UP! The world IS in trouble, (and I'm not talking about fucking global warming bullshit) and like it or not the U.S. DOES have a part on how things will work on the global stage and had better get it's fucking act in shape before things get worse. One more thing, living in a county with universal health care will not solve all the social ills, just make your paycheque a hell of a lot smaller, and 8+ hours in a hospital waiting room. God I wish we only had a $4 gallon gas rate...
Hulk in The Avengers by fiester	Jun 6th, 2008 10:19:55 PM
I never read those really early Avengers comics, but how long was Hulk a member of the team? I can't believe he lasted very long. Hulk's not really a "team player." Heh.
That Captain America period film... by Admiral_Snackbar	Jun 6th, 2008 10:21:03 PM
That Captain America period film, if it happens, should have a scene with Hugh Jackman playing a soldier named James Howlett. Simple, and awesome, if they do that. No claws, no beserker rage, just have him there and don't draw attention to it. You know you want to see it. I do, and I'm not a Wolverine fan by any stretch of the imagination.
Comics and Show Business by King Bear	Jun 6th, 2008 10:40:36 PM
George Carlin should be blacklisted from show business and from stand-up comedy for being a Communist. Jennifer Garner should be blacklisted from show business for divorcing Scott Foley. Charisma Carpenter should be blacklisted from show business for getting a divorce. Desmond Devlin should be fired from MAD Magazine. Garth Ennis is an asshole. Garth Ennis is a shithead. Garth Ennis is a fuckface. Jimmy Palmiotti is an asshole. Jimmy Palmiotti is a shithead. Jimmy Palmiotti is a fuckface. The comic book MANHUNTER that is being published by DC Comics should be cancelled. It is dogshit. They should change the names of the big universities to Fuck University or Fuckface University. Garth Ennis is a piece of shit. Jimmy Palmiotti is a piece of shit. PREACHER is dogshit.
Comics by King Bear	Jun 6th, 2008 10:41:26 PM
Garth Ennis is dogshit. Jimmy Palmiotti is dogshit. Garth Ennis is a ball licker. Jimmy Palmiotti is a ball licker.
Joe Quesada by King Bear	Jun 6th, 2008 10:45:27 PM
Joe Quesada is a fuckface. Joe Quesada is a fucking cunt.
The Democrats by King Bear	Jun 6th, 2008 10:49:17 PM
The Democrats are fucking assholes. They are fouling up this country.
Indy 4 by pr0g2west	Jun 7th, 2008 12:29:11 AM
I don't know why people point to the monkey sequence as the worse part of that movie. There are more dopier scenes than that to gripe about...still a great movie though. If Hulk is half as good as Indy, it will be good.
muddstick by slopreilly1	Jun 7th, 2008 03:00:57 AM
what the world needs is a movie review site that tells it like it is....NO BS. AND they have an unmoderated forum, which rocks, because god knows Im always getting banned because some mod doesnt like what I say.
7yo thinking the Hulk is real = by JackieJokeman	Jun 7th, 2008 08:54:22 AM
Get that kid tested. Clearly hes been eating paint chips.
slopreilly1 by muddstick	Jun 7th, 2008 09:05:49 AM
I've found sites out there that don't blow their wad over every film. I've found some places that give honest reviews. Even if I don't agree with them all the time, I apreciate their honesty and candor. I'd list them here, but I'd probably get banned. I'm not against another site. I checked the site in question out and I like their idealistic approach. But, ask yourself. How long will it last?
as for free speech... by muddstick	Jun 7th, 2008 09:09:43 AM
I like the idea of unmoderated boards. You should be able to voice your opinion even if it goes against the status quo. Yet, I've seen my share of forums break down into viscious name calling and threats of violence. That shit shouldn't be tolerated at all.
muddstick.... by slopreilly1	Jun 7th, 2008 10:00:44 AM
Funny thing is that is their only rules. No name calling and threats of violence or death. Other than that they say everything else is fair game. Its going to take a while for their forum to take off, but given enough time it might be a cool place to hang out and post.
Awesome article/review by Aethyrr	Jun 7th, 2008 10:29:09 AM
Thanks Harry!
News: Raimi ready to direct Spiderman 4 by zooch	Jun 7th, 2008 10:38:12 AM
http://tiny.cc/X5eMN
I also got "Hulk Smashed." by Evangelion217	Jun 7th, 2008 11:44:27 AM
I just saw this film at a free screening here in New York City. And it was an awesome experience. There is so much action in this film, and you can feel every punch, hit, and explosion. They promised us "Hulk Smash", and we got "Hulk Smash." The Hulk even says, "HULK SMASH!" And not only is it action packed, but you can actually SEE the action sequences. Yes people! There is no shaky-cam sh!t, and no ADD editing that would usually cater to the Mcdonald audience. There's alot of close-ups, but they are used in an effective way. You still get to see every movement that the Hulk makes, and the camera puts you right into the chaos. The fight sequence between the Hulk and Abomination was not dissapointing at all. It turned out to be alot better then what I was expecting. They don't even show half of it during the trailers. It's VERY LONG, and INTENSE! It surpasses anything by Michael Bay, and Paul Greengrass. And the reason that the action was so intense, is because of the human story. Plus, Edward Norton helped out ALOT. He truly carries this film on his shoulders. He shows so much emotional range as an actor, and he is truly convincing in every scene. Unlike Eric Bana, he shows you the pain and angst of Bruce Banner. He looks like he's been through hell, and can't find a way to get out of it. And I know this is bold, but this has got to be Edward Norton's best performance since "Down In The Valley." It's been a long time since I'v been impressed by Edward Norton, and it feels good to see him give another great performance. It's definitly up there with what Robert Downey Jr. delivered in "Iron Man." These guys are great actors, and I hope they will continue to be great as Tony Stark and Bruce Banner. Director Louis Leterrier finds a balance between the love story, and the badass action sequences. Unlike what he's done in the past, he actually puts some substance into this film. Not alot of substance, but just enough to glue my eyes to the screen. And it works, because of the chemistry between Edward Norton and Liv Tyler. Their chemistry is very genuine. You can see a spark in their eyes, when they look at each other. And their love scene together is really cute. They don't take any clothes off or anything, and it's not really a love scene. But it's very cute, and it added more humur to the film. Liv is not a good actress, but she adds alot of innocence to Betty Ross, while showing some spunk in between her soft edges. And to be honest, her eyes are her best attribute as an actress. She uses her eyes to draw you in, and you know exactly what she's thinking. There's another romantic scene, and it's between her and the Hulk this time. After the Hulk saves her from the battlefield, they go to the mountains. There is raining and lightning, which infuriated the Hulk. But then Betty calms him down, and guides him back into shelter. It's a very sweet scene, and it shows some psychological aspects to the hulk. Infact, I didn't just want to see this film for the action, I wanted to see it for that scene, and I got it. It's probably my second, or third favorite scene in the whole film. Tim Roth is 100% badass. He truly plays a great villain. He gives you a look that lets you know that he will bust you're ass. He also adds this fire to his character. When you see him fight the Hulk, he looks like he's having fun. Like he's reliving the good old days of his youth. Oh and ummmmmm.................Willia m Hurt is good again. He went a whole decade without doing anything special until "A History Of Violence" came out. And he's proving that it wasn't a fluke. He's been acting his ass off for the last three years. He plays Betty Ross's father, and he stays in character throughout the entire film. He doesn't even attempt to over-act in any scene. He delivers a very convincing performance. Another great thing about the film, is the fact that Louis Leterrier focuses less on the psychological aspects, and more on the action. I have no problem with character driven plots that go for the psychological route. But the Hulk comics have never been like for me. They have some psychological stuff, but it's mostly action oriented. It's not like Batman, or the X-Men comics. It's all about the Hulk Smash. It's constant fighting, and constant battles against the military. Ang Lee's Hulk had things in it, that added a great to the Hulk universe. Because the psychological aspects of the Hulk is VERY important, but it's not THE most important aspect about the Hulk. Plus, Ang Lee also tried to focuse too much on the father/son relationship, while blending in all of the psychological angst that came with it, and it just became boring. It didn't feel like the Hulk to me. Louis Letterrier doesn't even attempt to dwell too much into that, because he knows what he's best at. He focuses on the action, the love story, and alittle bit on the psychological aspects of the Hulk. That's basically what the comic-book was to me. I really enjoyed this film. So far, I think it is the best summer flick of 2008. It not only reached my expectations, but exceeded them in almost every possible way. And if "The Dark Knight" isn't dissapointing, then 2008 will be the best year for comic-book films by far. My rating for this film is an 8/10. It's not perfect, but it's better then alot of the competition in it's genre. And it is definitly better then most action flicks. P.S: I almost forgot to mention that Tony Stark makes a cameo appearance towards the end. It was done for two reasons. 1) For comic-book geeks like me. 2) To get all of us ready for the "Avengers" film. But if the film doesn't happen, then we still might get the first cross-over in comic-book film history. Can you imagine The Hulk, and Iron Man being in the same film?? I'm geeking out just at the thought of it. And I don't know if "The Incredible Hulk" will be successful at the box office. But I think "Iron Man" made enough money for either of these two films. It's made almost 300 million in it's domestic gross. And it's probably surpassed more then 500 million in it's worldwide gross. Hopefull, that will be enough to have a cross-over in the future. P.P.S: Go see "The Incredible Hulk." It's worth you're time, and money.
Will see this Monday the 9th by mr dark	Jun 7th, 2008 12:51:36 PM
I am looking forward to this redo I wasn't disapointed by Angs version..I thought there were some very good things going for it.. I liked the comic book panel wipes and the overall look and feel of the film..It just got bogged down with all the emoting and non action sequences I have high hopes for Marvel to take the lead with their new franchises and put the comic world back on track.
Gotta TOTALLY dsagree with Ya Gonzo. by 900LBGorilla	Jun 7th, 2008 01:17:04 PM
Frazetta is great – his visuals would make an AMAZING basis for Conan- but his style would be total crap and COMPLETELY off for John Carter. This world is filled with athletic and slender characters, not beefy people and his backgrounds for the world are Frezetta, not Burroughs…you want accuracy- Wheelan’s covers were FAR SUPERIOR to Frazetta for Mars/
M.Night will direct the next Hulk...The twist? by XxSoulFlyxX	Jun 7th, 2008 01:29:40 PM
Hulk is really Roger Ebert. I'll pass on this since Harry likes this so much.
Breaking news: Brett Ratner to direct G rated HULK 2 by jack-torrance	Jun 7th, 2008 02:35:32 PM

Raven Symone to play Chaniqua Banner in Ratner's HULK 2 by jack-torrance	Jun 7th, 2008 02:36:48 PM

ANGEL: REVELATIONS by King Bear	Jun 7th, 2008 02:37:16 PM
ANGEL: REVELATIONS from Marvel Comics is excrement.
Bow Wow is love interest in Ratner's HULK 2 by jack-torrance	Jun 7th, 2008 02:37:25 PM

Breaking News: Joel Schumacher to direct G rated HULK 3 by jack-torrance	Jun 7th, 2008 02:37:52 PM

Breaking News: John Moore to remake INCREDIBLE HULK after by jack-torrance	Jun 7th, 2008 02:38:41 PM
his remake of CAPRICORN ONE.
John Moore set to remake BEVERLY HILLS COP by jack-torrance	Jun 7th, 2008 02:39:11 PM

Ratner to remake remake of BEVERLY HILLS COP by jack-torrance	Jun 7th, 2008 02:39:37 PM

DAREDEVIL: THE TARGET by King Bear	Jun 7th, 2008 02:44:25 PM
How can there be a new Bullseye when Kevin Smith hasn't written DAREDEVIL: THE TARGET #4 yet? Where is DAREDEVIL: THE TARGET?
Coach Stephens by King Bear	Jun 7th, 2008 02:46:44 PM
Glenn Michael Stephens is a fucking cunt.
Spidey by James Ford Coppola	Jun 7th, 2008 02:48:55 PM

Spidey 4 by James Ford Coppola	Jun 7th, 2008 02:55:28 PM
Raimi said he won't do it without Maguire and Snaggletooth, and it seems the latter has quit "acting" because of drug and alcohol addiction problems. Thank God for that.
Harry, calm the fuck down. by briantag	Jun 7th, 2008 04:16:41 PM
And why does every review have to mention you cumming? Fucking holy hell chocolate covered pussy juice tomboy beanpole ass pounding bullshit. There, did I get that out of everyone's system? (doubt it)
Leaders by King Bear	Jun 7th, 2008 05:16:53 PM
Nicolas Sarkozy is a fucking cunt. Zapatero is a fucking cunt.
David Paterson by King Bear	Jun 7th, 2008 05:21:51 PM
David Paterson is a fucking cunt.
Charles Schumer by King Bear	Jun 7th, 2008 05:27:29 PM
And by the way, FUCK Charles Schumer.
Rahm Emanuel by King Bear	Jun 7th, 2008 05:30:36 PM
And FUCK that cocksucker, Rahm Emanuel.
Michael Bloomberg by King Bear	Jun 7th, 2008 05:46:12 PM
Michael Bloomberg can go fuck himself. Michael Bloomberg is shit.
John Byrne by King Bear	Jun 7th, 2008 05:53:29 PM
FUCK John Byrne. John Byrne is an asshole.
X-men 3 made 100 gazillion dollars by Rupee88	Jun 7th, 2008 06:28:43 PM
you guys don't get it...you pay to see shit movies and they make more of them....YOU are the problem.
Jesus by therightclique	Jun 7th, 2008 06:56:51 PM
Is anyone else confused by Harry's piss-poor writing skills? That was one of the biggest piece of shit reviews I've ever read. He essentially forgot to talk about the movie at all, and filled the rest of it with so much premature nostalgia and hyperbole that I vomitted all over my grandmother.
Silvio Horta by King Bear	Jun 7th, 2008 08:53:40 PM
They need to fire Silvio Horta from the behind-the-scenes crew of UGLY BETTY.
Al Franken by King Bear	Jun 7th, 2008 08:54:38 PM
Al Franken is a bugfuck cocksmoker.
I might go see it, by unuseddraft	Jun 7th, 2008 08:55:34 PM
but I'll probably be too busy reading Gone. It's the greatest novel of this, or any other generation.
Arnold Schwarzenegger by King Bear	Jun 7th, 2008 08:56:25 PM
Arnold Schwarzenegger is worthless dipshit baggage.
just popping in to remind you that AngLee sucks! by BMacSmith	Jun 7th, 2008 11:47:34 PM
thats all.
So blah blah blah by Series7	Jun 8th, 2008 02:17:59 AM
with the whole Norton thing, everyone on this site is defending how he is pro hulk and doing the normal thing promoting the movie... then how come I don't see him on any of the late night line up list? Kimmel said that he will be on next week, but I don't see it. ON THE OTHER HAND comedian Nick Griffin is on Letterman Friday night and he is funny as the day is long.
Genius is simplicity... by Boober	Jun 8th, 2008 02:27:57 AM
Hulk is about "vs X". This will already be better than Ang Lee's "Crouching giant, hidden logic" where hulk fights giant dogs, foam, and the incredible exploding pappa-zit. Yeah, much better.
gotham_night by Series7	Jun 8th, 2008 02:43:58 AM
So if you know so much then what does she got on her left thigh?
2 awesome TDK featurettes are online by James Ford Coppola	Jun 8th, 2008 02:45:02 AM
Ridley Scott wants to make a sci-fi movie Feel free to post other cool news AICN has ignored for whatever reason. At least they stopped with the GONE bullshit. They finally buried the rotting corpse but the stench will still be there for a long time
I'll bet dicks to doughnuts by Series7	Jun 8th, 2008 02:45:58 AM
That this movie will not be as good as Speed Racer.
James Ford Coppola by Series7	Jun 8th, 2008 02:49:06 AM
Yeah i know man. I thought that Morgan Freeman was the perfect choice for Nelson Mandela. And even thought I haven't liked Clint's movies for awhile. People eat his shit up like its the McRib. So I'll leave it to him to make America understand that Rugby is round, and will be round, and will be round FOREVER! And that it's the greatest sport ever.
If Norton doesn't want to do promo, why did he at the MTV awards by messi	Jun 8th, 2008 06:33:53 AM
sounds kind of weird to say hey i aint gonna do promo and then you do go promote it at one of the big events.
Ot wasn't Ed who did the promo... by XxSoulFlyxX	Jun 8th, 2008 08:38:46 AM
it was Tyler Durden.
It wasn't Ed who did the promo... by XxSoulFlyxX	Jun 8th, 2008 08:38:58 AM
it was Tyler Durden.
If Norton doesn't do a sequel, Ratner has Bow Wow lined up by jack-torrance	Jun 8th, 2008 09:49:13 AM

Vinnie Jones will play villian in Ratner's G rated HULK 2 by jack-torrance	Jun 8th, 2008 09:50:16 AM

Re-boot of HULK: Raven Symone is Chaniqua Banner by jack-torrance	Jun 8th, 2008 09:51:52 AM

Directed by Brett Ratner by jack-torrance	Jun 8th, 2008 09:52:27 AM

Am I the only one... by imascooby1985	Jun 8th, 2008 12:25:23 PM
Who would like a reboot of Daredevil? Just make it dark as fuck ala Dark Knight and cut out any playground fight/ flirt scenes and we could have gold. And It would work well to have a good Kingpin whou could travel through the Marvel Universe films just like his character does in the ultimate line of books.
unionJACKass.webs.com by long live the new chris	Jun 8th, 2008 03:55:01 PM
couldn't agree with you any more.
Tina Fey by King Bear	Jun 8th, 2008 05:03:36 PM
They should shitcan Tina Fey the fuck out of show business. And they should cancel the entire Vertigo line from DC Comics.
When big universities go bad... by King Bear	Jun 8th, 2008 05:40:22 PM
they deceive the people living in the cities into supporting the big universities' bullshit ultraliberal free sex cult agenda. News at 11.
Hugo Chavez by King Bear	Jun 8th, 2008 09:04:28 PM
Hugo Chavez needs to be shitcanned the FUCK out of office.
Paul Levitz by King Bear	Jun 8th, 2008 09:05:13 PM
Paul Levitz is a socialist and needs to be fired from DC Comics.
Dan Didio by King Bear	Jun 8th, 2008 09:05:50 PM
Dan Didio needs to be fired from DC Comics.
Jimmy Palmiotti by King Bear	Jun 8th, 2008 09:06:28 PM
Jimmy Palmiotti is a sack of nuts.
DAREDEVIL 2 by King Bear	Jun 8th, 2008 09:10:32 PM
I would love to see Mark Steven Johnson's Mr. Fear idea for DAREDEVIL 2. Have Mark Steven Johnson write and direct DAREDEVIL 2 with Mr. Fear, as Mark Steven Johnson said in an interview. Either that, or have Kevin Smith get paid a truckload of money and have Kevin Smith write DAREDEVIL 2. Oh, and just as Bill Finger coaxed the published Batman idea of Bob Kane, so Joe Quesada needs to coax the script for DAREDEVIL: THE TARGET #4 out of Kevin Smith the same way.
Malcolm Ingram by King Bear	Jun 8th, 2008 09:11:51 PM
Malcolm Ingram is a worthless, sad sack of shit.
John Byrne by King Bear	Jun 8th, 2008 09:16:27 PM
John Byrne is a complete and total asshole.
Garth Ennis by King Bear	Jun 8th, 2008 09:17:00 PM
Garth Ennis is a fucking cunt.
What is this? by Dokkalvar	Jun 8th, 2008 09:58:44 PM

One more try by Dokkalvar	Jun 8th, 2008 09:59:13 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =-4Nh1tVuGnw
MAD #490 by King Bear	Jun 9th, 2008 12:25:48 AM
I read MAD #490. It was dogshit.
DEADPOOL VS SQUIRREL GIRL!!!!! by DOGSOUP	Jun 9th, 2008 01:35:58 AM

Star Wars remake... anyone? by Perro_Maldito	Jun 9th, 2008 05:56:53 AM
What about that Star Wars remake? Are we there yet???
Jesus guys, get on the fucking ball here. by Dokkalvar	Jun 9th, 2008 08:33:50 AM
http://www.comics2film.com/ind ex.php?a=story&b=33677 Aintitcool is slipping badly.
Iron man Adventures. by Dokkalvar	Jun 9th, 2008 08:38:12 AM
I guess the link didn't work. Oh-well. Go to Youtube and type "Iron Man Adventures" What is this? Is it old news? Where did it come from, why does it exist? After all the bullshit hoopla Knight fall caused, there hasn't been any word about this.
Nice Review by BeyondStatic	Jun 9th, 2008 09:54:00 AM
Harry, nice review. Kinda heavy-hulk-handed at times; bordered on experiencing your geek-gasm in text; but overall, nice review.
What review? by Luscious.868	Jun 9th, 2008 12:57:11 PM
Harry barely said anything about the movie itself.
It's GREAAAAT!!!! by Hulkie Hulkster	Jun 9th, 2008 02:12:49 PM
Went to the Hollywood premiere yesterday. It's as great as Harry says. As a lifetime Hulk fan I was not disappointed and even more excited over the future Avengers movie and Hulk's next enemy, who, as Harry says, is revealed in the film. Oh, and check out the names of the college kids interviewed by a TV news crew about their Hulk sighting- great TV show reference! HULK SMAAAASH!!!!!!!
Doctor’s name is Dr. Reinstein….??????? by Paradox99999	Jun 10th, 2008 01:08:30 AM
The name of the doctor who creates the Super Soldier serum and is killed by the Nazi's (sooo, no more Caps) is NOT named Reinstein (in the original books)...its Erskine (geeeshh...You would think that a site full of comic book geeks would know this trivia!!)
Bill Bixby died in 1993 (15 years ago) by kameon	Jun 10th, 2008 01:56:57 AM
Do they use CG to achieve Bixby's cameo?
Harry Is On Target by Roboteer	Jun 10th, 2008 09:33:00 AM
Not as good as IM, and it takes a while to get rolling, but Harry is pretty much on target. This is the prototypical kickass Hulk Movie. As he says, maybe the most exciting feature was the beginning of the Marvel Universe. It'll take a Herculean effort to make it happen, but they laid that first brick here. This is the way it should have been done from the beginning. I actually never thought the AVENGERS was very good with the Hulk. Just too powerful and uncooperative. "Hulk tired of fetching coffee. Make Thor do." ....Established at the beginning, the movie didn't follow through how Banner felt himself a menace to those around him. Instead he becomes a menace mostly because he attracts folks with big guns. I have all the Silver Age Hulk comics too, except for #1. He was always a bit hard to love, I suppose like the teenage target reader. The real hero was Banner and this portrayal is a pretty good one, if totally off from the puny nerd scientist he was in the comic. If I remember, for the record, Banner did not change into the Hulk when he got angry. That was TV. Nor did he initially turn into the Hulk when he got excited. I believe the change was totally random and unpredictable. Gen Ross discovered though, that a dose of Gamma radiation would turn the trick. After expending all this energy, he would fall asleep and become Banner again much like all these versions. Taking the weaponization angle is more interesting than the accident Rick Jones caused at the gamma bomb test. But it compromises Ross' motives just to remove a menace and once more is virulently anti-military, anti-technology at heart. Something disturbingly difficult for Leftist Hollywood to lay off of lately. I think this film may have a bit more trouble making it's money back. The reviews so far are good, not great. These spectacles cost a king's ransom to make and it's only takes one or two flops to derail the plan. So far, Marvel has absolutely got it's s**t together. This is exponentially better than Ang Lee's messy stab at sophistry.
say "fuck" more by Dink88	Jun 10th, 2008 10:09:27 AM
the review paraphrased: fuck fuck fuck awesome fuck fuck shit fuck fuck fuck tony starks fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck banana
An Alternate Opinion From Someone Who Saw This Movie, by Rollo Tomassi	Jun 10th, 2008 11:16:25 AM
As someone who liked Ang Lee's film, I accepted that this was just going to be the dumb fun version. It was dumb, but not fun. The new film is not a "Batman Begins"-style reboot as was long rumored. No, it's actually more akin in many ways to "Batman Forever" (though Letterier does use the opening credits to set up a slightly different version of the origin story than we saw in the previous film). We open with Bruce Banner (now played by Edward Norton) on the run from the government, who wants to use his alter ego, the Hulk, as a weapon. The government forces are lead by hard as nails, blood and guts, shoot first and later, cigar-eating General William "Thunderbolt" Ross, played by . . . William Hurt? Seriously? WILLIAM FREAKING HURT. The ultimate stuffed shirt. The man who put the "ass" in "pomp-ass." As a piece of casting, this is akin to watching Kelsey Grammer portray a rodeo cowboy. It just doesn't work. In Hurt's defense, he does provide the fiulm with t's greatest moments of tension: we wait with baited breath to see if his mustache is going to fall off. But the smug self-satisfaction he seems to be taking in his own overracting makes his performance unbearable. And it doesn't help that most of his scenes are with Tim Roth as Emil Blonsky, a soldier with Captain Ahab-like obsession with defeating the Hulk, but an annoying tendency to slouch and shuffle like a 1920's Jazz musician with his shoes on the wrong feet when he walks. Roth, after his Academy Award nominated turn in the underrated "Rob Roy", underwent some sort of bizarre religious conversion and gave up his talent for lent. Hurt and Roth are engaged in a titanic struggle to see who can chew the scenery more egregiously. No one wins, but the audience certainly loses. This is one of those comic book films that seems more interested in the villains than the heroes, but we're not talking Jack Nicholson as the Joker here. We're not even talking Scott Paulin as the Red Skull. We're talking WILLIAM ^(# HURT AS . . . sorry. That was just a piece of casting that REALLY didn't work for me. But the bottom line is, after two time Academy Award Winner Lee's cerebral human drama failed to connect with mass audiences, the goal here was not to delve deeply into the characters, but instead to provide a series of exciting action set peices. This was supposed to be the "Hulk Smash" version, and I went in embracing that and prepared to enjoy it on it's own merits. After all, I've been arguing since 2003 that Universal Pictures and Marvel Studios were foolish to jump to the conclusion that "Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon" made Ang Lee an action director. That film featured eye-popping fight scenes, but in it's heart and soul wasn't that far removed from Lee's previous Oscar-nominee "Sense and Sensibility". You may have noticed that I mentioned the Academy Award twice in the connection with Ang Lee. With Louis Letterier, the director of this film, the Oscars will only be mentioned if he wins a betting pool with his friends. But that's okay. Not every fimmaker has to be a visionary genius. There will always be a place for solid, journeyman directors who can provide chills, thrills and entertainment. But Letterier's direction makes one yearn for the steady hand of Brett Ratner or Mark Steven Johnson. It was as if Roland Emmerich and Michael Bay chose to band together and combine weaknesses. And darn it if Ang Lee didn't give us much better action sequences. Truth be told, while there may be MORE action scenes in this film, in terms of quality, they don't even come close. It is abundantly clear that Marvel went through point by point and tried to "correct" everything that comic book fans ddin't like about Lee's film, starting with the lack of comic releif. To that end, we are treated to a steady stream of smirking in jokes that become increasingly more annoying until you just want to hit somebody (the worst of these is the obligatory Stan Lee cameo, which has the distinction of being the lamest and most intrusive one in a Marvel movie to date.) This checklist of pandering reaches it's zenith in the final battle, in a moment that is clear intended to be a crowd pleaser, but got little to know reaction from the packed audience at this screening.
Saw it last night by euphobics	Jun 10th, 2008 01:24:30 PM
my review is up on my blog: euphobics.blogspot.com
Apparently Jon Favreau is too expensive... by TVguy4566	Jun 10th, 2008 03:51:45 PM
to be part of the Marvel Universe. Word is Marvel is balking about his asking price for Iron Man 2.
I would be up for a Daredevil reboot too by TVguy4566	Jun 10th, 2008 03:57:44 PM
As long as they dump Ben Affleck and the stupid red leather suit. The first movie sucked and Affleck was miscast.
God Bless Marvel? I say G*ddamn Marvel! by Rollo Tomassi	Jun 11th, 2008 12:58:04 AM
I hate these people. They started with something great, but the quality keeps slipping and slipping because they replace creative geniuses with hacks. They FINALLY got a great director, and a great movie again, in Favreau and IRON MAN, and they are chasing Favreau away. Louis Letterier is probably the worst director they have used so far - the fight scene between Hulk and Abomination is pathetic. Seriously, DARDEVIL was better than this crap. And Edward Norton is not happy with the way it turned out, so you can bet he won't be back, either. I give Marvel great credit for bringing great power back to the superhero genre. But with great power comes great responsibilty. They are flushing it all down the toilet. If they keep heading in this direction, "Ultimate Avengers" won't even be worth seeing. So say we all.
I Grew Up In Bowling Green Kentucky And A Local Transmission Sho by Red Dawn Don	Jun 11th, 2008 12:58:09 AM
A local transmission shop (WALT'S TRANSMISSION SHOP?) had a new sign-statue put up in front of the store back in the 1970's. It had a 15 foot statue of the HULK in all his GREEN GLORY. It lasted for several years until somebody sent a picture to MARVEL COMIC's and they threaten a lawsuit. WALT changed it by painting it a different color (I think red). I wonder what ever happened to that 15 foot HULK STATUE standing on a pedestal 10 feet off the ground (25 FEET TOTAL). It was awesome.
Bring on the Avengers! by u.k. star	Jun 12th, 2008 09:17:10 AM
We loveed this film, very enteraining, Character stuff was inviolving. We loved shield, Nick fury and Stark industries being all over the movie. The two endings were perfect and I just can't believe it's 2 years till another Marvel studios movie! I just hope the fox don't sour people's opinions with a sub-standard wolverine movie, as I think a lot of people are into the Marvel Movieverse now, and won't see that the Fox movies (& to a lesser extent spiderman) are NOT of the same universe. (ps i know there's a Punisher redo coming out, but I'm not sure that is "connected2 as Iron man T.I Hulk and the others are / will be.
Hey I live in AZ... by redboar	Jun 12th, 2008 06:27:12 PM
...And tomorrow I'm seeing the movie in a THX-certified digital screen theater in Tempe! Keep your pond scum factories to yourself (unless they need a good IT support person ;) ).
Congrats, Harry and AICN by thebearovingian	Jun 12th, 2008 09:07:08 PM
Just saw a HULK TV spot and every quote they used was from Harry and AICN. AMAZING - Harry Knowles, Ain't It Cool News MOMENTOUS - Ain't It Cool News
MUCH BETTER THAN IRON MAN!!! by Shermdawg	Jun 13th, 2008 07:29:05 PM
And I really dug Iron Man.
Major disappointment by BillEmic	Jun 13th, 2008 08:35:43 PM
I don't know if I'm getting too old or too cynical for this stuff or what, but this Hulk film just felt hollow, lifeless, and downright boring for me. I LOVE comic books and I just believe they deserve to be treated as modern myths, and not a quick annual 'summer movie CGI-fest' cash-in. I feel like Ed Norton tried to inject some depth into the script, and I totally bought him as Banner, but half-way through the movie I realized this was just a 90 minute chase scene and I became completely disconnected. The editing was all over the place and I was left wondering what scenes ended up on the cutting room floor that might have perhaps fleshed out the story. What we're left with - a loud, noisy monster movie - is undermined by terrible action direction. Every Hulk scene was a jumbled mess of flying cars and random explosions. I couldn't follow a damn thing. sigh When does The Dark Knight get here?
When the comercials started with phrases like "As good as Ironma by DarkCouncilus	Jun 13th, 2008 10:14:36 PM
I worried, but anyway I went and watched it, and so far the best thing I can say about it it's that: the action was very good, but IMO it certainly wasn't as character driven as Ironman or as well-balanced as Batman Begins. My three problems with the movie were: 1) At times, a feeling of disconnection among the main cast that at times was distracting. 2) I won't buy ever that a military officer (as stubborn he or she is or how much is personally involved in the situation) wouldn't take any extensive preemptive security measures with the Abomination and/or leave him unchecked were "treatments" were being developed and tested for Banner. 3) The irritating "Power Rangers" overacting levels from the guy that played "Mr.Blue", who the fuck allowed that shit to happen? never clever, funny or appealing in anyway, just a shameful eye-roll inducing performance. Not looking forward the Leader, not like this. I'm more than willing to wait and buy a extended DVD-BlueRay edition as long as cut-scenes are incorporated and/or receives a editing boost like the Daredevil movie had. The three things that I liked: 1) Obviously, the action. Very accomplished. I never found it out of character, blurry, or annoying. 2) Say whatever you want about the CGI, but the animators made the character of the Hulk much more emotive and compelling than what Norton displayed for Banner. 3) The cameos were awesome, very well incorporated to the story. Stan's is my favorite one, never saw it coming.
Harry got this right by sactownbull	Jun 14th, 2008 12:54:08 AM
I'm sure there will be more negative posts by the resident life hating trolls but real Marvel fan are going to love this.
Not as good as Iron Man by AntoniusBloc	Jun 14th, 2008 01:18:15 AM
and Iron Man wasn't that great. CGI just not good enough to make Hulk believable, might as well be watching a video game or the old saturday morning cartoon, as I flashback to the great missed opportunity of Beowulf. I understand the hardocore comic book fan's excitement hinting toward a future Avengers film, but you still have to surround all that with a good film, otherwise, there could be a backlash against comic book films by the general audience. Dark Knight better deliver because I have a feeling Hancock won't help the comic book film future cause.
Hulk was good by santi01	Jun 14th, 2008 02:10:48 AM
Just got back, it was really good. IMO almost as good as Iron Man and fuckin light years ahead of that piece of crap Ang Lee Hulk. Avengers will be the shit. Anyone notice the Thor ref's
I hated this movie. by BobPalpatine	Jun 14th, 2008 03:45:14 AM
The characters were vapid, not a one of the actors was as good as their counterparts: Bana, Connelly, Elliot. Norton, surprisingly, was not good at all. The director has no idea how to make a film visually appealing, really, the whole thing was so hideous. I've never seen NYC - one of the most photographed cities in the world - look so bland and muddy. The opening shot of Brazil - fantastic, jawdropping. The CG was very good for what it was, but still has the innate problem that it looks like CG - hard for me personally to buy into. I realized while watching it why Ang Lee went with the look he did - with the editing of comic panels, bright colors, etc. He knew the Hulk wouldn't look good enough for the "real world" so he tried to make the world fit the Hulk. This one, tries to make a gritty world and gritty hulk, and I don't think either one is as compelling as what Ang Lee made. I guess a Hulk movie is just hard to do. The action, well it was clever at some points, other times I couldn't get into it. Cameo at the end: priceless.
Needed more 'Hulk Smash'! by Grimlock22	Jun 14th, 2008 08:34:04 AM
I think Capone might have said it best, the problem with any Hulk movie is that Bruce Banner is by and large uninteresting. You're basically just waiting until the Hulk appears. Now I know a lot of people remember the TV series fondly and in fact a lot of this movie was inspired by the TV series, but that's all you did when watching the TV series, wait for Banner to Hulk-out! That's what made Ironman so good, because Tony Stark as a character was so fucking cool that you liked watching him, and then when he put on the suit it was like icing on the cake. I think they really tried to make Banner interesting and give the movie a "Bourne" feeling, so I give them kudos for the attempt, but what I truly wanted to see was even more HULK SMASH! I'm not just talking about the length of time on screen, but the level of destruction. The Hulk is Earth's mightiest mortal and I just never felt that level of power from him in this movie. After seeing the trailers for Hancock, that's the kind of strength I want to see from the Hulk. Hancock is shown effortlessly stopping a moving train. He is shown throwing an 80 ton blue whale a mile out to sea like we'd throw a tiny rock. He flips cars around like nothing. I wanted to see that from the Hulk. I don't want to see him strain to pick up a Humvee. I don't want to see him swing through the city like a monkey. At least Ang Lee's Hulk got that right. The Hulk can fucking jump 2-3 miles with one leap. While I enjoyed the final battle, I wanted to see even more monster on monster action and even more brutal. There were too many cut-aways for my taste. I wanted to see the camera fixed on the Hulk and Abomination for 5-10 minutes straight. It was fantastic when the Hulk smashed up the car and uses it as boxing gloves, but after that I wanted to see the Abomination smashing cars over the Hulk's head and back and forth. I wanted to see these two pummel each other all over the city, smashing through buildings, etc. and at the end I want to see the Hulk get stronger as he gets madder and just pummel the Abomination into submission with his bare hands. All in all, I give the movie a 3 out of 5, but still believe there is a truly epic 'Hulk Smash' yet to be delivered.
##### by proper	Jun 14th, 2008 09:42:39 AM
I enjoyed the last one and I enjoyed this one too,It didn't bore me and the effects were good (the sonic cannons were nice),it could've done with a final Hulk 3 mile jump when he escaped but apart from that I had a good time,I hope Ed Norton sticks around for future films.
Leterrier kept the action ticking along by emeraldboy	Jun 14th, 2008 02:49:06 PM
the movie's problem was that leterrier cant do non action. Liv tyler, was utterly wasted in this movie as was Tim roth. There were some nice touches which i wont go into.
can any one clear this one up? by emeraldboy	Jun 14th, 2008 02:53:54 PM
on the poster for the hulk it says screenplay by Zak penn and Edward Harrison. on the opening titles it says story and screenplay by zak penn. im confused. is harrison really norton? if so why?
i think the problem is that the writers seem to have a problem by emeraldboy	Jun 14th, 2008 04:17:45 PM
in connecting our sympathy to banner who has a tragic affliction and the grr hulk smash elements.
HULK SMASH!!!@@@!@# by DarkSeider	Jun 14th, 2008 04:42:03 PM
ARRRGH! Awesome movie, go see it.
I liked it a lot by MattmanReturns	Jun 15th, 2008 03:08:48 AM
Not a great movie like Iron Man, but definitely a good one. The battle at the end was probably the most entertaining action sequence I've seen so far this year.
and in another part of town.... by emeraldboy	Jun 15th, 2008 04:29:13 AM
studios are weighin up what they should do about shyamalan. It has been a long time since I have read about a film which has been so completely and utterly taken apart as the happening. Night had better hope that avatar is something special. or hollywood will never work with him again.
THE BEST MOVIE RELEASED THIS WEEK WASN'T HULK. by Shermdawg	Jun 15th, 2008 10:13:27 AM
It was "Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots". My god Kojima needs to switch professions.
Speed Racer still #1 by Hikaru Ichijo	Jun 15th, 2008 10:39:43 AM
Best movie so far. Hulk was cool until the crappy CG kicked in full swing. Lot's of continuity with the other films that I liked. Going back to Ang Lee's Hulk before I make my final judgement.
letdown for me, but my kids never saw king kong v. godzilla, so by lettersoftransit	Jun 15th, 2008 12:31:12 PM

the kids loved it. by lettersoftransit	Jun 15th, 2008 12:32:37 PM
But I have no desire to see it twice, and I find myself less jazzed about the team than I thought I would be. Though the idea of the hulk as member of team who ends up fighting the team has some potential (as in an early avengers comic, I think #3)
choice of director was an overcompensation by lettersoftransit	Jun 15th, 2008 12:44:17 PM
transporter was decent but a cartoon genre film; this seems like the choice was overcompensating reaction to Ang Lee's film, which I didn't care for at the time but which had decent things in it this one doesn't. Just like Fox relied too much on Tim Story's abilities to film banter, these guys relied too much on letterier's ability to capture a video game battle. Or maybe they got points from the canucks for hiring somebody with an EU passport. Whatever it was, he is a decent enough director but I think not the right choice for this. Now the Hulk franchise has one swing and a miss followed by a foul tip.
Latest Batman Pics... by Traveler 27	Jun 15th, 2008 12:46:19 PM
this one alone has me jazzed to the gills. holy fuckin' shit. http://tinyurl.com/4hjsvh better catch up, AICN
They should stop making hulk movies by emeraldboy	Jun 15th, 2008 12:55:25 PM
and that is all i have to say. We are all so supposed to have some sympathy for banner as he tries to rid himslef of his affliction. if I was writing this, i would take my cue from Frankenstein. mad dr creates monster. tries to kill his creation. Which ends up being chased by a mob. Its hard to kill a 10ft monster. That is why norton's screenplay had an edge (Banner kills himself). and it would have tied itself into the tv series pilot. Banner goes on the run but not before stagin his own funeral. Then kills himself to rid himself of the creature.
if speed racer was the best movie... by emeraldboy	Jun 15th, 2008 01:50:36 PM
how come americans cold shouldered it. and how come it tanked.
The end of the movie confused the hell out of me.. by emeraldboy	Jun 15th, 2008 02:02:42 PM
I dont want to give anything away. Gen Ross wants Banner for his own devious uses. then suddenly that all changes. It is obvious who the next villian is going to be. I liked the little touches throughout the movie. But there was something a litte rushed about the whole film. Liv tyler was terrible as was Hurt and Roth. The movie was nothing more than a travelouge. Finally Something happened to me that has never happened beofre. I laughed at an adam Sandler Trailer. dont mess with the zohan. weird.
SPIDERMAN WAS CGI TOO by FlickChick	Jun 15th, 2008 02:56:45 PM
Everyone who is complaining about the cgi, needs to take a step back and REMEMBER how Spiderman's cgi looked. And Spiderman didn't even have to emote with his rubberman, swinging, action.
and did anyone notice the darker tone... by emeraldboy	Jun 15th, 2008 03:08:21 PM
in the conversation in very final scene of the movie. I wont say anymore than that.
Speed Racer? by Hikaru Ichijo	Jun 15th, 2008 09:29:25 PM
Some of the best movies don't make money at the box office, and Speed Racer is one of them. I only saw the Hulk because Narnia is getting bumped after two weeks, and not playing evenings at my theater. I had already dropped eighteen bucks on popcorn and soda when my date found me and told me Narnia wasn't playing, so we opted for Hulk. As a huge fan of the tv show, but not so much the comics, I found it enjoyable, until the CG brawl, which bored me. I thought the cast was great and I love how they lay the groundwork for a Captain America flick. That's the angle that will keep these Marvel movies happening; the comic book style continuity that this flick has with Iron Man. That type of deliberate set up in two seemingly unrelated films is something we haven't seen before, and it's very cool. If they make The Avengers I'm there, and I hope it's the most comic bookish thing we've seen yet. Otherwise, superhero movies are beat. Why anyone is waiting for Batman is beyond me, and I still have no interest in Iron Man. I guess I gravitate towards Speed Racer for being such a flight of fancy, like it's source material, only much improved. Bringing a Comic book hero into our own reality is not a novel concept, and can only backfire no matter how hard the filmmaker tries to sort things out. It's the heightened sense of reality that makes comics and cartoons what they are, not the sprinkling of logic that comes with them. The Wachowskis understand this and so have turned in the best flick of the summer so far.
HULK SMASH ANG LEE VERSION!!! by Thot	Jun 16th, 2008 01:28:50 AM
Just saw TIH tonight. It was better BY FAR than Ang Lee's "abomination"! Great action, great sfx, nice touches of humor, great acting and hella fantastic action! Hulk CGI looked just fine in most scenes. Was glad he was allowed to speak, if only a bit. The final battle royale was ripped right from the pages of a comic! Well done Louis and co. Can't wait to see it again!!
So does that mean we will get more movies by emeraldboy	Jun 16th, 2008 08:06:40 AM
with minimal/ basic plotting. I have seen both hulk films. So heres an idea for the next film. Set up the story for the first 20 mins. Then junk the plot completely for the rest of the movie in fact. dont bother with the plot. keep the idea of the tv series. ie banner on the run/while trying to look for a cure. General is banner's enemy. They can keep making hulk movies, that way but the audience will soon tire of the franchise. like they have with m.night shyamalan movies.
IN spidey three we had bad spidey... by emeraldboy	Jun 16th, 2008 08:17:42 AM
in the next film...we see the emergence of the leader. He clones/replicates banners DNA. But since the leader is a bad guy. He creates a bad Banner by accident. The bad banner in a fit of rage he becomes the bad hulk. similar to the hulk only he has no emotions. Bad hulk kills Betty Ross. This sends gen. ross into murderous rage and he vows all lot war on the hulk. Meanwhile, the leaders plans to create a hulk army are well advanced. With the general on tail, banner seeks out some legal help, to avoid the death penalty that the general has ordered. Banner gets in contact with his cousin jennifer. that way gale anne hurd can introduce She Hulk.
god this film was boring. unlike the Happening. by HypeEndsHere	Jun 16th, 2008 08:46:53 AM
at least that had some MST3K appeal. blood falls in Brazilian soda? WTF? stop CGI-ing blood. it looks as fake as it did in Blade. Brazilian supermodel works in factory? chop off the whole Brazil section. it wasted so much time that when the Abomination shows up, i'm too bothered to care. the emotional scenes played to laughter in my theatre..."can i walk you to the bus?" puh-leaze. also, isn't that street the same one King Kong went nuts on? anyway, the end was really choppy with a few bits tacked on. so, Bruce can control it now? is that what it means?
BANNER wasn't interesting? by Shigeru	Jun 16th, 2008 09:18:30 AM
I found this flick to be much like the first two Spider-Man's. In that the "secret identity" was the best part. Norton played the geeky, emotionally cutoff, emo Bruce Banner perfectly. Little moments sold me: Betty untucking his shirt, ect. Also, "don't make me...hungry. you wouldn't like me when I'm...hungry." no wait that's not right
HULK ruled! by Luscious.868	Jun 16th, 2008 10:46:40 AM
It's funny, I'm no fan of the Hulk comics and not a fan of the TV show but I thought Ang Lee's Hulk was an OK movie at the time. It was different than the other comic book movies produced before and after it and I appreciated it for that. That being said, I really liked the new movie. It drug a bit in the middle but I'm in agreement with Harry and Capone. I love what Marvel is doing with these movies and melding these universes together and Hulk kicks some serious ass at several points in this film, unlike in Lee's version. I also like what they did at the end, showing Banner deliberately hulking out and trying to control it. Future films, if they make them, should take that approach with the characther. Where he can Hulk out if he wants to and he has some measure of control when he does it. As for the box office take, 54 million is a much as they could hope for given most people's reaction to the first movie. The drop off won't be as bad as your expecting due to word of mouth. People will hear that unlike the last one, this one reboots the series and is good, so people who avoided it when it was released this weekend due to not liking the last one will actually go and see it when they hear from other people that it's a solid flick.
Pretty okay stuff by PumpyMcAss	Jun 16th, 2008 11:50:19 AM
This was an okay movie, alright. Okay through and through. They played it pretty safe throughout and ended up with basically the same movie as before, just with less boring parts and also less interesting parts. I've never seen the show or read the comics so I have to ask: where the hell else is there to go with this series? Does he just run away his whole life? It seems like with this and Iron Man they already blew their bad guy wads: both movies had them fight stonger versions of themselves. Isn't that like something you save for the final installment? Where else do you go when you've already fought yourself?
off topic... by emeraldboy	Jun 16th, 2008 11:54:32 AM
Congratulations Jim norton on your tony award. Both he and his sister are legends here. Great actor.
As someone who saw the series... by emeraldboy	Jun 16th, 2008 12:05:14 PM
The big difference was that Banner was on run looking for a cure. He was stalked by jack mcGee the news reporter. hence the line. dont make me angry, mr. mcgee, you wouldnt like me when I m angry. There is very little you can do with a hulk movie accept make a 2 hr version of the tv show. a lot of people dont like the tv show. so there is a problem. an all out hulk smashathon, some would love that but would lead to diminishing returns. people will get bored with the same character doing the samething. The hulk is really a very repetitive character.
regarding Jim Norton.... by emeraldboy	Jun 16th, 2008 12:11:03 PM
The irish actor was in one of the funniest comedy eps ever infather ted. Kicking bishop brennan up the arse. absolutely. crilly....... He and his sister are legends in Ireland. His sister Betty Ann, has been teaching generations of children how to act in her dublin theatre school. He has been known to give lectures there.
Erskine vs. Reinstein by Jack Parsons	Jun 16th, 2008 12:51:10 PM
Which was the name of the scientist who invented the Super-Soldier serum, Erskine or Reinstein? Trick question, lemme tell you why. Both names are correct. Marvel writers got confused at one point, and his name changed. The No-Prize compromise was this: Erskine was Reinstein's code name (or the other way around, can't recall). So everyone is right. The war is over.
With terrible news breaking about Stan winston... by emeraldboy	Jun 16th, 2008 03:42:05 PM
I have had to revaluate my opinion on this film. In all of his films that he created the effects for Winston understood how important story was. What he would have done if given the hulk, nobdy can really imagine, cause the hulk was CGI. I imagine, stan winstons hulk would have scared us something rotten and it would have looked idiotic like the hulk currently does. big baby or big ape. can you imagine the abomination in Winstons hand. it would not have looked like spawn. The hulk would have looked a little frankensteins monster. A real life master is gone. We will never see his like ever again and the effects industry is now one day closer to moving to Silicon valley. I heard that some time ago. they were considering moving hollywood to silicon valley. So that it could be merged with the computer gaming industry.
Thor cameo in HULK???? by momochan	Jun 16th, 2008 10:19:20 PM
Hey Guys, I may be off on this, but what was that whole thing with the "freak" thunderstorm when Hulk and Betty are in the cave...Could it be that somewhere close by THOR's origin is going on at the same time??? They seemed to put a lot of emphasis on this AND even mention it in the news later in the film.
Using the incredible Hulk movie as platform.... by emeraldboy	Jun 17th, 2008 02:48:24 AM
to set up other Marvel Movies. that is really clever.
along with by emeraldboy	Jun 17th, 2008 02:49:51 AM
Iron man...
I know this is a little Late!! But By George I got it! by Boss1	Jun 17th, 2008 07:42:02 AM
Right of the back I just everyone to know that I really liked the Incrdible Hulk. But One thing seemed to be missing and I really couldn't put my finger on it.. But now I have.. They still haven't developed the Hulk as Being heroic.. I showed that he LOVED Betty, both as the Banner and as The HULK.. But what was missing was that even though he appears to be a raging savage beast that he has a good heart, becaue banner is a major part of who the Hulk is.. They should had him save some innocent by standards during the final battle. It would have been perfect if the Abomination had knocked down a building, and the Hulk leaped to save Women & Children just in the nick of time, then once he figured that were safe then turning to the Abomination and give him that Mean face that he made at bronsky multiple times.. Just a thought!
Fixing Ang Lee's hulk by PowerRing	Jun 17th, 2008 10:47:57 AM
I watched the directors commentary on Ang Lee’s hulk last night. I have a bit more respect for him, hearing his philosophy firsthand. His wife is a microbiologist. I would have sworn he batted for the wrong team before I heard that. Anyway…Shadows and light: Realism is color and shading. The hulks skin was simply too light colored, bright and luminescent for a movie. It’s ok for a comic but makes him look to surreal. His pants were just plain purple with little shading. That further ruined the illusion. Note that’s why the new hulk is dark green. Rhythm and pace: When you listen to music or morse code there is a rhythm, and pace. It should sound like “_ . _ _” not_.__________________ _” I saw a full 20 minutes of the movie that should have been cut for pace, and it would have left the story intact. If I had Vegas 6 or another DVD rip/edit program I could make the cuts myself. A CGI studio could re-color the hulk for that fix. Again, as much energy, gravitas and pace that the hulk had in parts, it really got it’s legs stuck in the mud with too much back story. These improvements would have greatly increased the realism and pace.
This was a decent movie but.. by Campion	Jun 18th, 2008 01:43:30 AM
Hulk and Iron Man both had really boring villains. Iron Man fights another iron man. Hulk fights another hulky thing. Spider-Man, X-Men and Batman at least had some interesting adversaries.
Um Harry, we talking about the same movie? by ChickenStu	Jun 18th, 2008 04:14:25 AM
I saw it. And I want two hours of my life back.
IM and Hulk by PowerRing	Jun 18th, 2008 08:49:20 AM
Iron Monger was a superb villain (Thank you Stan Winston!) and abomination is also a classic. I laugh when I read the extreme opinions. It's only a fucking movie, quit acting like it raped your dog.
That scene near the end of the movie... by emeraldboy	Jun 20th, 2008 10:27:53 AM
with Downey Junior and bridges in Starks home. was the best scene in the entire movie. rivetting stuff. bridges was superb. and on an unrelated matter. for Irish lost fans only. Terry O'Quinn is one of Miriam O callaghans guests along with Gabriel Byrne. and some 1990s reformed irish pop group. Boyzone. never heard of them.
Kick's Ang Lee's Hulk to shit by council estate scumbag	Jun 20th, 2008 10:55:38 AM
Liked this film a lot. All action and less philosophy and mindless rambling! Bring on the sequels!
I just saw it by disfigurehead	Jun 20th, 2008 05:38:11 PM
I thought it rocked. I don't have a problem with Ang Lee's Hulk but this is much better.
Ang Lee Hulk by Interesting Reginald	Jun 20th, 2008 08:06:43 PM
It was just on Sci Fi last night, and I watched it again for the first time in a couple of years, and I have to say, it really is a bad film. There are a few individual elements that are done right, but for the most part it's a trainwreck. The pacing and the "panel" editing wipes kill any momentum in any scene, and the acting is so wooden for most of the film it's hard to connect with ANY character - though that probably has a lot to do with the Matrix 2-esque dialogue. The action scenes are laughable, and even the one shining example usually touted (Hulk vs. Army in desert) is mostly the Hulk running away. Now that the new film is out and I have such a fresh comparison, I find it hard to believe that Ang Lee's has any real defenders anymore. His film isn't really the more cerebral of the two - the character motivations and acting choices in the new one are believable for the most part - to the point where I suspect Lee was really trying to make a straight up scifi-action film and just failed at it.
Interesting Reginald by emeraldboy	Jun 21st, 2008 09:22:32 AM
you say that The acting in Ang lees hulk is Wooden. But Liv tyler cant act and was the worse aspect the new hulk movie as was hurt and Roth who were wasted. and Louis leterrier is a terrible non action director. one of the people who turned up at the premiere was Favs and he said that Lees movie(which he liked) was the more emotional of the two movies. So what people seemed to be saying is that Emotion should have no place in a hulk movie. arent we not supposed to have some sympathy for bruce and his afflication. or should a hulk movie be just about the action and not the story? It was noticable, when I saw the film last week in dublin that when it didnt slow down Leterrier kept the pace moving along.
and I loved Downeys cameo... by emeraldboy	Jun 21st, 2008 09:28:04 AM
end of The climatic battle confused the hell out of. Gen. Ross and Banner are enemies. all that changes. if the hulk had killed Betty Ross, that would have given the Gen ross all the ammunitiion he would have needed to kill banner. making his battle personal.
Ang lees hulk was on ITV this after noon by emeraldboy	Jun 21st, 2008 02:39:21 PM
God that movie was so dour and sombre. not to mention, long, labourious and utterly tedious. The scene in the desert is outstanding. But that whole thing about banners dad creating the hulk. by doing experiments on his son. and the final battle is still weird. and still have no idea what the hell was going on. on the plus side(what plus side say the ang lee haters) i thought the cinematography looked great. Louis Leterriers movie is an improvement but not by much.
None Of The Hulk Was Shot In NY by rickdeckard1	Jun 22nd, 2008 12:33:35 AM
The Harlem scenes and the Cambers St. shot I believe were all filmed in Canada, I know cause I was following this film big time, hoping for any filming In NYC, they just used NY for 'plate shots'. Very Disapointed with the end result. I did like the Brazil shots they looked great.
CG doesn't have to wreck a film by monkette	Jun 22nd, 2008 02:09:43 PM
I really enjoyed The Incredible Hulk, but I thought I would hate it as all the trailers I had seen were very CG laden and I thought there would be little room left for actual people to act. I was totally wrong. This film is awesome!
Just saw it by xenazhaan	Jun 22nd, 2008 08:57:12 PM
and just read this insane, beautiful nerdgasm review. I thought it was an awesome movie, "Hulk SMASH" brought a tear to my eye.
Loved it! by WoodyStiffer	Jun 28th, 2008 10:03:41 PM
This film captured the power and rage of the Hulk! The action scenes had my heart racing! Fucking amazing! Can't wait for the next Marvel offering! Here's hoping Thor is kickass - albeit, I can't imagine WHO could possibly pull off Thor. Who the hell is big enough, tall enough and is a good enough actor?
Very good movie. As good as Iron Man... by HappyHamster	Jun 30th, 2008 01:43:42 AM
Not quite sure why Iron Man is getting such higher praise than the Hulk, but I loved both movies about equally(read: a LOT!). Like Harry, I LOVED the cross promotion. As he said, Spiderman was completely self-contained, whereas in Hulk and Iron Man, you felt you were in the middle of something even bigger (the Marvel Universe). It was a brilliant move release Iron Man first, and then having the subtle (and not subtle) reference to Iron Man components in Hulk. And my personal geekometer damn near exploded with the reference to characters as yet unseen (Captain America, Leader, etc). I'm very pumped for the next Marvel release.
Avengers and Justice League by erikzod	Jul 6th, 2008 09:53:41 AM
Let's hope they can make a Justice League movie to match the upcoming Avengers movie.
"Hulk Smash" & why Ang Lee got it wrong by MGTHEDJ	Jul 8th, 2008 10:04:18 PM
This film was great. It's just as good as Iron Man. Edward Norton did a great job on the script, too bad the WGA would not let him have credit. This time they understood the characters. In 2003 Ang Lee was re-making “Beauty and The Beast” or “King Kong.” That’s not Banner/Hulk. Banner/Hulk is “Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde.” Ang Lee is a great director, but he was just too clever by half. The cameos were great, the references (even one of "Richards"?!?!) were outstanding easter eggs. Nice use of Grover, which leads me to ask was Norton apologizing to Frank Oz for all the crap Oz took on the set of “The Score?” Using the TV show theme, and letting Lou F. be the voice of The Hulk were very classy touches. I hope the Hollywood b.s. doesn’t raise its ugly head and sabotage the sequels. When the DVDs hit at Christmas and everyone gets to see these 2 films back to back and appreciate their masterful work, will Marvel be ready and able to finish what they have started, or will they crash and burn ala X-Men 3?-----later------m
Don't watch that movie if you're in Germany! DON'T! by MariusXe	Jul 10th, 2008 06:18:20 AM
IT'S CUT! They really cut down a PG movie in germany. They really took stuff out of te fight scenes! This is a movie with 2 big green CGI monster pounding on each other and they took the action out of it. It was so obvious that the whole theatre was screaming in agony and hatred with every cut! For example: They show how Hulk smashes the police car in two pieces and how he makes gloves out of it and CUT Abomination lies on the Ground with Hulk above him and punching him in the face without gloves. or After Hulk uses the sonic clap and Betty screams "Behind you" Abomination comes up behind him CUT and Hulk says HULK SMASH and finishes him off. WTF??? So to any german talkbackers here. The movie releases nationwide today and it is cut. Don't waste your money on that shit. Other than that I think the movie was all riht, but not as great as Harry wants to make it. The action scenes in Ang Lees Hulk were far more fun and much much bigger in scope. This movie was somewhat small, compared to Ang Lees Version, which I ultimately liked better. Sure the characters were bette rin this one, but the action wasn't fun at all, but as I said before it was heavyly cut, so maybe theres more meat to it in the uncut version. I dunno.
Perfect by erikzod	Jul 11th, 2008 10:43:09 AM
A vast improvement over Ang Lee's 2003 crebral mess of a movie.
cerebral rather by erikzod	Jul 11th, 2008 10:43:50 AM
cerebral
Hulk Smash and Audience Participation by codynootchies	Jul 14th, 2008 05:57:31 AM
I walked into my local comic book store, looked at the owner, who I've known since before I had pubes, and simply said, "He said 'Hulk smash!', man. He really said it." I have always hated the fact that comic book films wanted to somehow try to deny the fact that they are comic book films. I think that phenomenon is coming to a screeching halt. Thank God!!! On a side note: I usually only have to stand and scream, "Hey kids, look. It's Stan Lee." I usually get looks and some cheers. When I stood and screamed about Ferrigno it was much the same. I swear three guys in the whole building knew who Bill Bixby was, and I thought they were gonna break something beating me to the punch. I hear this weak timid little voice, "Look, kids, It's Bill Bixby." I gave the dude a standing O. I love what these movies are becoming...
Universal are hinted that they by emeraldboy	Jul 15th, 2008 03:25:30 AM
wont be making anymore more hulk films......
apparently... by emeraldboy	Jul 15th, 2008 03:36:05 AM
The reason why they may not be making anymore hulk movies is that they are turning away from sequels and are going to make one off comic book films. Having said that Wanted 2 is the works. Wanted was rubbish. But it was one of the biggest films of the summer.
I Hope They Make Hulk 2 by ClubMixxer31	Jul 23rd, 2008 04:34:22 PM
I know the Incredible Hulk's box office is not like The Dark Knight's or Iron Man's but over 130 mill after 6 wks with all the challenges this movie had going for it, not bad at all. Isn't Incredible Hulk a Marvel Studios production and not Universal's who just promoted and marketed the film? I could be completely wrong about that!
Nobody expected Iron man to do as well as it did... by emeraldboy	Jul 24th, 2008 11:10:28 AM
I dont know if there will be a sequel or not. I cant see universal going to all the bother of recasting the entire movie, yet again. It seems to be in limbo, they are not rushing into a sequel.
I wish it weren't so, but... by NiceGuyEddie19	Jul 30th, 2008 09:38:07 AM
This movie just wasn't very good. I saw it when it first came out and I've had time to digest it. It isn't terrible, but it just isn't good either. I appreciate Norton's injection of heartfelt geekdom, we need more of that in comic book movies, but the film itself sort of left me feeling blah.

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