It's funny though cause it's going to take the adoration of seriously flawed original series to the next level: "Oh no! Ratner's destroyed the integrity of the Beverley Hill Cop franchise!!!" LOL

As Thunderbolt nailed quite funnily though, its Beverley Hills Cop. Dude wheres my integrity? BHC and many 80's flicks were just vehicles for the star to let loose.

They'll be remaking something like Commando next and rant about 'staying true to the artistic vision' lol

If the theatrical release of BHC was the censored one they show on TV then it wouldn't have been a success, and wouldn't have spawned sequels.

Having said that, BH3 was an abortion so maybe it would have been a good thing.

Seriously who could give a shit what Eddie Murphy does, or Cuba Gooding while were here. Eddie is and always has been too cocky and full of himself. I bet if you ask him about Pluto Nash he'll tell you its a good movie and fuck you if you disagree. I personally would rather just see Eddie go back to doing stand up. The man is not meant for kids, he does fucked up shit in real life too. But you ever noticed that almost all the actors involved in making movies/TV for kids are all fucked up in real life. While all the big action/bad ass stars are doing good Arnold is almost president, Clint Eastwood probably could be president, Sly turned out to be a real director, Bruce Willis is still alive, Steven Segal is still alive as well, and Jean Claude looks like he finally ended up in a good movie (but he probably doesn't even know he's in it).

Aww crap

The likes of Die Hard/Predator/Terminator in their original grittyness have been consigned to the history books. From a business point of view considering what the 80's big franchises took the whole 'appeal to broad pg-13 audiences' is daft. Not once does this complete fucking moron ask WHY he was watching this film when he was 10, as opposed to 80's shrek or whatever the equivalent of bland sensibilities were pimping the kids in those days.

Actually scrap that - even then 'kiddie' films consisted of The Goonies, War Games and Ferris Buellers Day Off. Their middling low key flicks beat the crap out of our top efforts, and it's not even rose-tinted nostalgia glasses talking.

Or do 11-year-olds, i.e. Ratt's target audience, consider Shrek not cool anymore?

The sad thing about Rambo (in the UK at least) a few of the largest cinema chains refused to show it. I think I read that there was an ongoing dispute with the distributors, coupled with (get this) 'they'd prefer not to, as they were a family orientated chain' (im paraphrasing but the gist was there). This is dangerous ground. Naturally because they didn't show it it's profits were hit (badly, though even with minimum screens it hit the top 3 that week) and the headlines on big news sites (itn.com here) pretty much screamed 'Stallone just isn't big anymore, no-one cares about this kind of flick'.

With this mentality we were lucky to see Rambo - and you get the feeling it was only hard R because Stallone REALLY pushed the issue.

And all they know of Eddie Murphy is, "isn't he the guy that plays all those fat people?"

In other news actor Judge Reinhold was found dead this morning. The actor hung himself last night leaving only a note that said "You'll get yours Bret Ratner".

I think it is arguable that half of the ass cheese in these movies is some feeble attempt at making kids laugh and have a good time. Folks, these are people who will laugh if you simply say the word "fart" much less make the sound with your hand and armpit. Catering to them, unfortunately for the most part, is at the expense of catering to us. Which is fine when its SpongeBob or the rare crossovers we can all enjoy like 'The Incredibles' or 'Toy Story'...but this need to child-proof traditionally rough and gritty rated R movie franchises from the past is arbitrarily regressive at best and a shallow money grubbing vac-u-suck at worst. Granted, even watching the *scandoulous* director's cut of Live Free or Fuck Off wasn't an improvement overall and the damage was already done by all the bullshit hype of "No, seriously...we're stretching that PG-13 farther than we did with the first Die Hard and that was rated R!!!..it's going to be super badass, not at all watered down, and you're going to eat your words!!" (GUNSHOT)It's hot as heck in here!(GUNSHOT). What the HECK do you MEAN? I'm mad as HECK and I'm not gonna take it anymore!

Who is this fucking HECK guy anyway? Did the guy who invented HECK also invent DARNIT? Or maybe SHUCKS? Dangit? Cause if that guy is still alive...someone please kick his ass and keep repeating the words 'FUCK' the whole time.

And no argument about Lucas (hence my obvious ID) but isn't it odd how...at least from my take...it seems like Lucas gets angry at the fans? Like he's a petulant child who says "You don't like me going back and destroying the whole Han Solo 'pirate-to-ally' character arc with Greedo shooting first? Well then FUCK YOU!! It's MY movie and I can do whatever I want!!! FUCK YOU!!"? I don't know the guy so I can't say for sure but I've read stuff that seems to imply he's not really a friend to the fan...you know...us dispshits who only enabled him his fucking life as he knows it now. Yeah...fuck us...we suck.

Then maybe they shouldn't be your target audience, dipshit.

Don't think this dickhead could have watched Bev Hills Cop when he was a kid!

Back in my day, here in Canada, Rated R meant no one under 18 got in. Didn't matter if you were with an adult or even your parents, if you were under 18 you were denied entrance. My brother and I went to see BHC when it came out but I couldn't get in because I was still 17. I was pissed because I was turning 18 in less than 2 months. But I grew up with a respect for movies targeted to adults. It was a privilege to see an R-rated film. Sure, all I had to do was turn 18, but it had the same sense of being a right-of-passage as getting your driver's licence or being allowed to legally drink.

And monkeys.

But after they dumb it down, it will be about a married Axel, who has kids, and is trying to help an orphanage get back their stolen basket of puppies

Chris Tucker will star if they pay him more money then last time because he is that big of a star.

I remember reading about him critiqueing Ridley Scott (which is enough to make my left eye turn demon red and shoot lasers at bunnies and hummingbirds) during the making of Gladiator saying, when on the set of the Colliseum (which was real up to the second layer which was CGI from there) that he'd have saved a ton of money and created a fully CGI Colliseum. I am not going to even explain the sheer asshattery and fucking stupidity of that statement. But I will say that I'm astounded that this guy isn't the film-geek equivalent of "The Emperor wears no clothes!" Seriously....thinking of Star Wars and Empire Strikes Back as flukes...how do>Don't base it on sales, etc...I'm talking as an autuer...a filmatist...a storyteller and more importantly...a director (of which he is obviously unqualified). He is a great storyteller...or was but my real question is this...

Did Tarzan LeBouf bust out a Tarzan yodel like that rascally Chewbacca did at the end of Jedi? You remember the part right? It's where Lucas bashed your head out of that magical 'suspension of disbelief' and told you "Hey! I'm a funny guy! I can make an monkey-like alien yodel like Tarzan! My grand-newphew laughed so hard he pee'd in his footsie pajamas!!!!!"?

SHAREHOLDER: What's the absolute biggest guaranteed return on our investment?

STUDIO EXEC: Sequels, but they're killing the golden goose. Eventually, people will get tired of seeing the same thing over and over, and our business will die.

SHAREHOLDER: Sorry, I stopped listening after the word 'sequels'.

what?

those are some films that *need* the full-scale re-imagining treatment if ever there were any. and keep Lucas away from 'em - hire McG or someone.

Not sure if you are serious about Gigli. I wouldn't go so far as to call it great but I do agree it is unfairly treated. I honestly believe it should be studied in film courses because, while it is often a terrible movie with a razor thin plot that has more holes than my underwear, you can at times see a glimmer of what could have been a good movie. Not sure if it was the result of too many rewrites (to make it a rom-com) or not enough. But I think it would make an interesting case study of how a movie can go wrong. And I have to say you have to applaud any movie that, marketed as a romantic comedy, has a gory scene of brutal violence (How much screen time was there of the brains on the fishtank?)

Wait for it.

I think I'd actually pay to see that. It'd be more like a Wrestlemania event than a movie but hey, that makes money.

Gotham Night- That was me, and I would explain why if you weren't such an obvious waste of the time your "father" spent wanking into a plastic cup.

Gigli was fucking horrible. "Gobble Gobble". Have you all forgotten?

Seriously, I think he died in BHCIII. I can't remember though, because that one wasn't worth remembering.

I think it is unwise to turn Cop 4 into Diehard 4.

But hard R movies do not generate the box office that PG movies do, and maybe he wants to protect his image investment as well. Although, I think his movie out this summer is R rated. It looks like a monstrous flop though.