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So jazzed for this film by Gabba-UK	Jun 4th, 2008 05:45:48 AM
Its not even funny anymore. MUST SEE NOW!!!!
IM NUMBER TWO by Groothewarrior	Jun 4th, 2008 05:53:57 AM
IM THE SHIT!!!!
I'm convinced it's impossible for this film to suck. by Knuckleduster	Jun 4th, 2008 05:56:08 AM
I'm not the biggest Nemo fan either. Funny that Stanton's doing this, but if it's even half as good as Bird's The Iron Giant, it will not disappoint.
this is the film 2008 was built for. by Obscura	Jun 4th, 2008 06:00:41 AM
honestly, right now, no other film has my attention as much as Wall-E.
meh. by Diagnostic	Jun 4th, 2008 06:06:03 AM
I like my roomba better.
Can't wait by beelkay	Jun 4th, 2008 06:08:16 AM
This looks like it might be in Pixar's top 3...although all of their films are separated by such small margins...it's like they all tie for first (except Cars and Ratatouille, which are tied for second).
Vulgar metaphors used in this site's reviews are fucking DUMB! by beastie	Jun 4th, 2008 06:11:23 AM
Yeah. It was funny the first couple of times. Now, it just seems like everyone does it to fit in with the other reviewers. I gotta say I stopped reading the first review after that. Glad to hear the second guy liked it though.
Half a day's work for dubbing by piquadrat	Jun 4th, 2008 06:33:10 AM
And Disney still can't release this thing before September in most European countries. Great, just great...
Isn't the X-Files movie coming out soon? by tonagan	Jun 4th, 2008 06:57:10 AM
I've read absolutely nothing about it.
Holy double SHIT did someone say Silent Running? by Proman1984	Jun 4th, 2008 07:07:47 AM
As in, one of the most underrated masterpieces of sci-fi cinema. The that thing is, it's probably because of the cute droids but still!
sounds good by stvnhthr	Jun 4th, 2008 07:07:55 AM
The film sounds great, but the first reviewer seems to suffer from Harry's problem of including crass sexual references in place of humor or charm. Seriously if you are ever tempted to use oral sex references to describe a film, you have a problem if you admit it or not.
My most anticipated movie of the summer by Series7	Jun 4th, 2008 07:27:09 AM
I am fucking tired of adults who are all about not enjoying cartoons. Acting like they are above cartoons. I mean who do they think makes cartoons? Cartoons are made by adults. Like do these people that hate cartoons because they are childish just think that kids make them?
Kung Fu wha? by Series7	Jun 4th, 2008 07:36:11 AM
With Kung Fu Panda and Wall-e opening so close to each other I all of the sudden don't even want to see Kung Fu Panda anymore. AICN you had me yesterday, but now I realize how dumb America is. I hope Wall-e doesn't get beat by Panda. In the end I'll probably see both, so far every movie I've seen this year has been amazing, I still don't know why everyone was so up in arms about how great 07 was, because 08 is kicking its ass.
Going too far... by Longfellow X	Jun 4th, 2008 07:55:51 AM
It's about time somebody cried foul to all these sexual references that work their way into the otherwise excellent reviews that appear on this site. Where else on the web can you find a crass, X-rated review of a Pixar family film? Maybe the AICN rating system should be based on how hard a film makes you, from flaccid to fully erect. It's gotten that ridiculous and pathetic.
i can't believe it's possible by filmcoyote	Jun 4th, 2008 08:09:47 AM
That i continue to get more and more desperate and excited to see this film. Surely there must come a point when anticipation tops out? I can honestly say i'd sacrifice seeing every other movie that's coming up this year (yes, even Dark Knight, The Changeling, Vicky Cristina Barcelona and Gran Torino) if i could see this today.
Who was the 'worst comedian' who starred in Cars? by akiraclass	Jun 4th, 2008 08:26:06 AM
the Wilson boy? Paul Newman? the Porsche? Monk?
Wall-E went down on you. Really? by squidman	Jun 4th, 2008 08:35:23 AM
I guess it would make sense if you were reviewing The Hulk: "The Hulk gave me a one-tug handjob that ripped my cock off! I begged for more!" Or Maybe Iron Man?: "Iron Man stuck his entire head up my ass, rocketed me into the sky and mouth-fucked me with an eagle that was passing by ... and I begged for more!" What's next? Is Kung Fu Panda going to give you a rusty trombone? Will you beg for more? I realize Harry often compares movies to vaginal secretions and what not, but let's be a little original here. I don't have a problem with vulgarity, but it's been done. Let's use it where it fits, not just to get a rise out of people (as I've done here to make a point... if you haven't noticed).
Is the "fat guy" hero AL GORE? by ccchhhrrriiisssm	Jun 4th, 2008 08:47:00 AM
If this is another Hollywood attempt to fight global warming (when Hollywood is one of the greatest culprits), then I just hope that they do it with tact. More subtle Bushisms? Sheeeesh. I think that Hollywood will continue its obsession with hating Bush long after Barack Hussein Obama is gone and the nation's Democrats are asking, "WHAT THE HELL WERE WE THINKING?!?" I've read a script review at another website (not entirely sure about its accuracy), and it did sound a bit "preachy." One guy went so far as to say that it is a subtle environmentalist film along the lines of HAPPY FEET. I niece didn't want to eat fish for a few days (fishermen are bad guys) and she even through away her Sea Lion stuffed animal (from SeaWorld) because of how the Sea Lion was depicted in that film (a cruel, penguin-eating animal). That being said -- I can't wait for this film! Both of these reviews sound extremely promising. I cried during FINDING NEMO, loved THE INCREDIBLES, laughed during RATATOUILLE, and tried desperately to enjoy CARS (with much difficulty). I am hoping that they can pull this off. If this even remotely resembles FINDING NEMO, THE INCREDIBLES or either of the TOY STORY films -- then it will make a fortune. If the script resembles CARS, A BUG'S LIFE or even RATATOUILLE -- then it may only perform so-so at the Box Office. Regardless, I am crossing my fingers. I just hope that the film avoids needless stereotypes. It seems that the only individuals that remain "politically correct" for Hollywood to poorly stereotype are conservatives, christians, southerners and NASCAR fans.
Mouth-fucked me with an eagle by just get real	Jun 4th, 2008 08:51:29 AM
Heh heh...good one.
Pondscum... by ccchhhrrriiisssm	Jun 4th, 2008 08:54:46 AM
Yeah -- the IRON GIANT! That was a TERRIFIC film! It was the last great traditional cartoon (if you ask me). It was nearly flawless! I wonder how well it would have done as a PIXAR film? Good stuff...and a sad indication of how difficult that it has been to find good, honest creativity in Hollywood.
Cars by mach6	Jun 4th, 2008 09:13:56 AM
I believe that the "worst comedian" is "Larry the Cable Guy", who voices Mater the tow truck in "Cars". Regarding the quality of "Cars" compared to other Pixar offerings, I don't think it's as good as "Incredibles", but it's certainly one of the best. My two-year old loves it, and the more I've watched it, the more I've grown to appreciate its quality.
"John Q Sixpack" by tekjannsen76	Jun 4th, 2008 09:26:12 AM
What kind of reverse douchebaggery is this reviewer trying to hit us with. Your worries about the box office are actually worries that a film that yes is a little bit more clever then some of the other Pixar films; might appeal to the masses instead of your nerd ass self. Get over yourself Grandpa.
Iron Giant was a Classic by kevinwillis.net	Jun 4th, 2008 09:41:32 AM
Poorly marketed, unfortunately. What a great film. Just watched it again the other day. "Where's the robot, Manley?" Great performances all around. Especially John Mahoney. And Harry Connick, Jr.
I agree with the first reviewer... by Bean_	Jun 4th, 2008 09:46:45 AM
I hated Finding Nemo, I thought it was contrived. The Incredibles is a vastly superior film.
Cars is a Great Film by kevinwillis.net	Jun 4th, 2008 09:48:28 AM
Amongst an almost endless stream of perfect films. I rank "Cars" around A Bug's Life, but Ratatouille I rank above it, if for no other reason than Patton Oswalt and Peter O'Toole. Still, there's a lot to love about Cars, from the classic cartoon nostalgia of anthropomorphic cars to Paul Newman as The Judge. And there was nothing wrong with 'Mater, unless your the stuck up, shallow hipster type who frequently finds themselves "too good, too smart, too superior". What makes a movie is how watchable it is . . . and there was lots of great stuff in Cars. But when you're the company that has made so many great films (not to mention the best superhero movie of all time, The Incredibles), you are held to an awfully high standard. Folks were predicting that Ratatouille would be Pixar's first flop . . . and it tore up the box office. Wall*E will out-perform Ratatouille domesitcally and internationally. This, I predict.
Finding Nemo is a Visually Lush Film by kevinwillis.net	Jun 4th, 2008 09:51:45 AM
And Ellen Degeneres as Dorry is brilliant. Hilarious. Wonderful. The sea turtles? The sharks twelve-stepping to overcome their fish addiction? There's a lot to love about Finding Nemo. The Incredibles is just the best super hero film ever made, and for geeks, that's important. I understand it. I have watched the incredibles several more times than Finding Nemo. Still, it doesn't mean Finding Nemo isn't a great film. It just ain't The Incredibles. But most things are The Incredibles. And I wish Pixar had an Incredibles sequel on the roster, because they created such a huge, wonderful comic book world that I want more. More! More than I want Cars 2, which is on the roster.
Cars is NOT a failure by jimmy_009	Jun 4th, 2008 09:59:35 AM
or devoid of heart. I thought the same thing the first time I saw it. Then I got it for my 2 year old and it's his favorite movie. I've probably watched it 30-40 times in the last 6 months and I actually enjoy it more now than when I first watched it. The storyline with Doc and Lightning has a lot of heart. Also the theme of disappearing towns to make way for progress is very sincere. I no longer rank Cars among my lowest Pixar movies (that's reserved for Bugs, which IS devoid of heart and I could probably only watch once every few months at best). I wish people wouldn't knee-jerk hate on Cars. I for one am looking forward to the sequel.
Yeah I liked Cars by Series7	Jun 4th, 2008 10:11:44 AM
Even though Larry is the spawn of dumb, he was very well casted and pretty funny in that movie (mainly because that character was literally portraying a metally retarded person). I think Nemo is my least favorite Pixar movie, thats probably why its the biggest. It was way too predictable and not as funny as any of the other ones. But as far as worst voice casting goes, it was Patton Oswald. Pixar is lightyears ahead of Dreamworks in its voice casting because they can sell a movie without big names unlike dreamworks. But I just didn't feel Patton worked, probably because out of all the casting they've done he has been the least experienced everyone else has been around for awhile and are passable on screen. Patton is a terrible actor, funny guy but a terrible actor.
Head In a Box by kevinwillis.net	Jun 4th, 2008 10:21:23 AM
. . . That's a great Lori Carson song, BTW. But if we grant to hubristic and arrogant notion that humanity (except for our superiour selves, natch) has been reduced to mindless, over-weight consumer zombies, I think the blame rests with the consumer-zombies, not Wal-Mart. Or anybody else but those folks doing the consuming. They got a choice to do something else, other than by quality products at low prices. Lots of folks, believe it or not, don't shop at Wal-Mart. Thus, anybody could not shop at Wal-Mart, if they so chose. The blame (if you want to call it that) rests with the folks doing the consuming. Wal-Mart exists to serve a market, and if they didn't, all those Wal-Mart stores would be empty shells at the end of weed-filled parking lots. Like K-Mart.
Finding Nemo and Cars by henrydalton	Jun 4th, 2008 10:22:28 AM
Are, in my opinion, Pixar's worst films (Cars by a lonnnng way, too). So that first review has just got me officially excited about this :)
small disclaimer by henrydalton	Jun 4th, 2008 10:23:20 AM
I haven't seen A Bug's Life though.
The Incredibles is not better than Finding Nemo... by P.Venkman	Jun 4th, 2008 10:24:10 AM
...because it has Craig T. Nelson. Okay, first of all, don't get your panties in a twist. I didn't say the Incredibles sucked, I just said it wasn't better than Finding Nemo. Why? No heart; plain and simple. Yes it was the first to have "people" instead of talking animals, but come on it's a cartoon. As for WallE, it will do just fine, because again, it's a cartoon. A CARTOON! Let's get some perspective here. Little kids will drag parents to go see it, who will in turn shell out hard earned gas money for a remote control WallE toy of some sort which they will probably take away from the kid so they can play with it.
Takes all Kinds, I guess by kevinwillis.net	Jun 4th, 2008 10:24:38 AM
I love Patton Oswalt in Ratatouille. He was perfect. And there's things I don't care for Patton Oswalt in. But there isn't a Pixar movie I wouldn't watch again (and I include A Bug's Life, about which I was a bit non-plussed at the time).
The Incredibles Didn't Have Heart? by kevinwillis.net	Jun 4th, 2008 10:30:22 AM
I strongly suggest you stop smoking the green crack and get high on life. I loved Finding Nemo, but the only shortcoming of The Incredibles is that there hasn't already been a sequel. The relationship between Holly Hunter and Craig T. Nelson? Struggling with raising the super-kids? Syndrome kidnapping Jack-Jack? Bob Parr's pining for the glory days? Every scene with Edna Mode, but especially when she's lecturing Elastigirl to remember who she is. The scene where Bob Parr is sure his wife and kids have been killed, how he is when they're reunited. Elastigirl checking out her hips in the mirror and sighing, in the midst of a rescue mission? The argument about which exit to take? And on and on . . . lay of the pipe, my man.
Lay Off the Pipe, I should Say by kevinwillis.net	Jun 4th, 2008 10:30:47 AM
I'm such a sloppy typist.
P.Venkman by Series7	Jun 4th, 2008 10:32:45 AM
And anyone upset with the sexual references in reviews. Dude Incredibles was awesome because you know in the back of your head that you wanted to band the shit out of Ms. Incredible, not because she was hot but because imagine the messed up shit you could do with a girl the flexable.
Oh and Toy Story is my number 1 fav movie by Series7	Jun 4th, 2008 10:34:01 AM
Of all time. Like I said earlier, you can be an adult and still enjoy cartoons.
Series7 . . .You've Got a Point by kevinwillis.net	Jun 4th, 2008 10:36:25 AM
Remember that look Mr. Incredible gets when Elastigirl tells him to be "more flexible", and pretzel-twists around him before disappearing into the sunset? No heart? Shit, that movie had a full set of bodily organs. Heart, head, and guts.
kevinwillis.net by Series7	Jun 4th, 2008 10:38:47 AM
Also just imagine what a girl that could go invisible would do?
The Invisible Girl by kevinwillis.net	Jun 4th, 2008 10:43:56 AM
Yeah, but I'm a pervert. I've always thought X-ray porn would be cool. But . . . that's neither here nor there. The fact is, you get all that conveyed in Mr. Incredible's little dazed look when Elastigirl shows her stuff. Which makes for a great "how the mighty have fallen" fifteen years later as they live in a tiny house and Bob has a crappy job that he hates and they try to raise 3 kids. I'm sure lots of married men can identify with pining for the old days of their then-new wives "being more flexible". And the excitement of getting ready to conquer the world, only to be beaten into numbness in the corporate cubicle. And on and on and on. The Incredibles is such a great movie.
Idiocracy, Yippie! by wowsucks	Jun 4th, 2008 10:47:53 AM
Now add the scene with the cars driving off the broken over pass and it's all good :) I'm not gay but this movie looks cute has hell, actually for some odd reason looking forward to it!
WALL-E will own the box office... by pizzatheface	Jun 4th, 2008 10:51:45 AM
Any of you have kids who just light up anytime the WALL-E clavinova music comes on? Or who try to say "wall-e" in the same robotic voice? These kids are primed for the little fellow on the big screen.
I hated The Incredibles by Tony Is A Little Boy	Jun 4th, 2008 10:54:11 AM
Don't know why.
vulgar metaphors part II by PeanutGallery	Jun 4th, 2008 11:31:16 AM
I hear ya Beastie, I stopped reading first guys review too. Who wants to visualize this jerkwad getting blown in a room full of kids. Ugh. So so gay. Second guys review was great though!
You people are slacking by the dolphins are in the jacuzzi	Jun 4th, 2008 11:42:39 AM
Over fifty posts in, and nobody has called "Plant!" yet. I must say, I'm extremely disappointed. I'm also disappointed with the first reviewer getting blown by a kids movie, which was more than a little bit sad and creepy; like Michael Jackson sad and creepy. Oh, well. Harry encourages this stuff by using it in all of his reviews; but enough is enough already.
oh, so wonderful! by viola123	Jun 4th, 2008 11:44:34 AM
Gosh, I just knew it was going to be beautiful: visually and story-wise. I can't wait! :)
The Incredibles MUST NOT have a sequel!! by mbeemer	Jun 4th, 2008 11:50:27 AM
It is IMO a "perfect" film. It can't be improved on, and the odds that a sequel could match it are low. Why sully the memory of a great film with an inferior sequel?
Silent Running isn't underrated at all by seagrass	Jun 4th, 2008 12:14:56 PM
compared to The Quiet Earth. Both films are equally great, though.
There's more character and entertainment... by darthvedder81	Jun 4th, 2008 12:17:20 PM
...in that two-minute trailer than nearly every non-Pixar CG movie ever released. I'm fully prepared to have Wall-e replace TS2 as my favorite of the Pixar lot. I hope it doesn't get too preachy though (kind of strange to have a movie made by Disney/Pixar/Steve Jobs tell us of the evils of consumerism).
Box office by darthvedder81	Jun 4th, 2008 12:19:19 PM
This will own the box office by the way. It's far more accessible for the kiddies than "Ratatouille" and that still made like a gajillion dollars. Pixar is like what Disney used to be (and it appears is finally returning to) a quality brand that families (and everyone really) can trust for good entertainment.
Craig T. Nelson... by stuatfunnyordie	Jun 4th, 2008 12:21:45 PM
One of the most underrated actors of our time...wake up Hollywood! He is the shit!
Fuck Iron Giant by random dude	Jun 4th, 2008 12:29:54 PM
Fuck it. Fuck Pixar and Wall-E. Fuck them all.
The first review was mine... by Burgundy82	Jun 4th, 2008 12:36:33 PM
...so direct all your hate about that blowjob line right at this guy. Honestly it wasn't meant as any sort of Cumpston/Harry-esque riff, and I didn't think it was particularly vulgar. The only reason it's in there is because that's how I talk pretty much all the time. Anyway what's important is that this movie is a jaw-dropping achievement both technically and thematically, and everyone here should see it at all costs. But really, reviews like these are redundant, because you pretty much knew it would be this good. OH, AND ALSO,I just got back from interviewing Andrew Stanton (which was the reason for last night's screening), and he said the reason for the live action was because WALL*E watches a clip from "Hello Dolly" — which didn't even occur to me because I'm a moron who can't put two and two together — and since Stanton had to use a clip from the actual film, he decided that, for consistency's sake, he would make all recorded video live action (kind of like "Tom Goes To The Mayor").
Wow, you're so individual and cool Random! by half vader	Jun 4th, 2008 12:47:05 PM
Fuck you too!
Silent Running by JackinNYC	Jun 4th, 2008 01:07:11 PM
Is such a great film. Bruce Dern's finest role. How he comes to miss human contact is heartbreaking. The bots also rule. Don't tell me Lucas didn't get his idea for R2 from Huey or Duey. I am so glad they haven't remade this 70's classic. But, I'm sure one day they will. Sigh...without the magic.
John Carter of Mars by Alec.Eiffel	Jun 4th, 2008 01:10:02 PM
What's going on with A Princess of Mars? Who's playing Tars Tarkas?
I second the call for more John Carter of Mars scoops by Movietool	Jun 4th, 2008 01:26:26 PM
I know it's probably a sore topic 'round these parts - but come on! Get us some info!
Can't wait by Mattyboy122	Jun 4th, 2008 01:30:41 PM
This, Dark Knight, and Quantum of Solace are the blockbusters I'm most looking forward to this year. As for Cars, I think it may be the least of Pixar's films, but I still had a good time with it. The flick may drag a bit and it may rely too much on pop-culture humor, but it does have heart, which is more than you can say for any of the Shrek films.
Burgundy82 by Series7	Jun 4th, 2008 02:03:28 PM
DUDE THIS MOVIE IS LIKE TOM GOES THE MAYOR!!! AWESOME! Naw in all seriousness, you need to tone down the vulgar language. Bret Ratner just called and he said that he is going to turn this site into a G rated family web site.
WALL*E on sale at by j2talk	Jun 4th, 2008 02:15:26 PM
wal-mart....come on like you doubted it????????
Slient Running by bobjustbob	Jun 4th, 2008 02:25:56 PM
I saw this film in the theater when it was first released. It was the 2nd film of a double bill (the first film was Soylent Green.) Anyways, my brothers wanted to leave after Soylent Green. Luckily we stayed for Silent Running. As much as a enjoyed Soylent Green it was Silent Running that won my heart that day. I was just a young kid and this was the first film that really moved me. It made me think about bigger things. And yes I cried. I MUST see this film again. And Wall-E sounds awesome!
America and the world HATE g.w. bush by Undead03	Jun 4th, 2008 02:39:26 PM
Shrub is the worst president in history. Not only "Hollywood" hates him, but so does the rest of AMERICA...79%. I'd say that was an overwhelming majority. He let 9/11 happen. He forgot to go after terrorists in Afghanistan and Pakistan and instead got us in a quagmire in Iraq. And he's buddies with the largest financer of insurgency AGAINST American Soldiers in Iraq--the Saudi's. And the economy is in recession. Yes, the WORST president in History.
Nemo is the best Pixar film Evah!!! by Fart_Master_Flex	Jun 4th, 2008 02:45:18 PM
And this is coming form a dude named Fart Master Flex. SO SAY WE ALL!
so jazzed for this by semisaj	Jun 4th, 2008 03:30:14 PM
that i just jizzed
Never understood the walmart hate by JackieJokeman	Jun 4th, 2008 03:48:43 PM
but then again I dont think only going to one store as opposed to three to buy a laundry basket, dvd, and a basketball to be an immoral act.
JackieJokeman by Series7	Jun 4th, 2008 04:00:29 PM
Do you really not know why Wal Mart is terrible? I'm assuming you are young. Wal mart is just the bane of America's materialistic lifestyle and fruggleness. The biggest issue I have with Wal Mart is their great value crap, they everyone eats up and it helps to undermine competition. Wal Mart started the whole idea that the distributors started nameing the price not the producers. Also just think about how 4 seperate members of the Walton family take up 4 seperate spots on the 30 richest people in the world list, it used to be 5 but one died recently i think. Wal Mart is going down though.
Wall E is a rip off of by Dingbatty	Jun 4th, 2008 04:00:46 PM
Zelazny's "For a Breath I Tarry" Read it online: http://tinyurl.com/6hm4b8
"Wal mart is just the bane..." by frankenfickle	Jun 4th, 2008 04:04:59 PM
"Wal mart is just the bane of America's materialistic lifestyle and fruggleness." bane means cause of misery. i'll leave "fruggleness" alone. the fact that wal mart can sell cheap stuff from china is not wal mart's fault, it's the government's.
to young for Silent Running... by Gatsbys West Egg Omlet	Jun 4th, 2008 04:15:01 PM
but it looks like something i should check out. and yes, Wall*E will be so good.
The only thing that sounds stupid... by 2sdaychicken	Jun 4th, 2008 04:34:45 PM
...is the "walmart is bad cause it has stuff for 50 cents cheaper!", and "if you have robots you will be fat!" We dont need a fucking life lesson here.
Let us remember for a moment... by jerseycajun	Jun 4th, 2008 04:44:46 PM
that corporations (in their current size and form) would not exist without the government creating them. Businesses don't grow to the size and power of many of these corporations without the special legal status and protections afforded to them by government, effectively insulating them from the natural effects of competition. Little known fact: The larger meat packers of the late 19th early 20th century were the ones pushing for government regulation, because they knew they could absorb the added cost of the regulation, but their smaller competition could not and would drive them out of the market- all while the government got to look like it was protecting consumers - when it really was planting the seeds for the modern corporation. Back on topic: I've been looking forward to Wall-E for a while now as one of my "must-see" films. My only concern is not that it will comment on consumerism (it needs to be discussed) but rather that the movie may indicate that the solution lies with an authority figure, instead of people freely choosing to change their behavior patterns. Pixar has never been heavy handed in it's messages, however so I'm thinking my concerns will probably be moot.
Nemo and Cars suck ass by disfigurehead	Jun 4th, 2008 05:57:48 PM
The Incredibles rocks. I can't wait to see Wall-e
TomBodet by Burgundy82	Jun 4th, 2008 06:18:26 PM
Plant? No. Guy who likes Pixar movies? Guilty. (But who the fuck doesn't?) I work for a newspaper in suburban Atlanta and wrote that review yesterday after a press screening. I'm not sure why my handle wasn't included, because it was definitely in the e-mail.
Remember when Wall-E went by his old name "Johhny Five"? by HB_Dad	Jun 4th, 2008 06:58:41 PM
Remember when Wall-E went by his old name "Johhny Five"? Seriously, that thing is a total ripoff of the aformentioned character in the movie Short Circuit!!! I can't believe no one else is making that comment!!
Head in a Box... by jimmy_009	Jun 4th, 2008 09:02:40 PM
you have your head in a hole. You're only complaining about Wal-mart because it's the biggest target. What about Costco? They sell cars there for got sake. You think any other company has a different business model than Walmart? They pay low wages for unskilled positions? No shit. Get a life, you only go after Walmart because it's the trendy thing to do. Go after Target if you want to be original.
Just saw trailer 3. Box Office worries ? Nope. by G100	Jun 4th, 2008 09:19:46 PM
(yeah I know where have I been) Box Office Gold and another lesson in moviemaking from Pixar.
bush let 9/11 happen by Undead03	Jun 4th, 2008 09:19:59 PM
Even though the evil ronald reagan, who's getting gang banged by saddam hussein and hitler in hell right now, sold chemical weapons and nuclear arms to terrorists, bush is still the worst president in U.S. History. That is just a simple fact. And America and the world knows it. Poor ditto heads like "fireproof" should stick to supporting perverts and pedophiles and continue their downward losing spiral.
Pixar is the first perfect studio... by PowerRing	Jun 4th, 2008 09:24:42 PM
My favorite pixar to date is "Finding nemo" with "the incredibles" a close second. I say that because everything they make is solid, 100% pure entertainment gold. "Cars" may be considered the weakest, but it's still blows away 90% of the movies out there. If any animated movie is ever to get the "best picture" Oscar, Pixar will do it. Wall-E will own. I am counting the days!
The "Wall-E rips off Johnny Five!" comments... by Nasty In The Pasty	Jun 4th, 2008 09:52:46 PM
...are funny, because Johnny Five was a bald-faced rip-off of E.T. (the head shape, long neck, and squat torso are all IDENTICAL). And Short Circuit is a pretty damn bad movie if you take away the 80's nostalgia. Some of the worst product placement in film history, as well.
THIS IS GOING TO BE THE SECOND COMING OF CHRIST by BurgerTime	Jun 4th, 2008 10:18:19 PM
How's that for hype?
Hey Anchorite by half vader	Jun 4th, 2008 11:41:39 PM
Not Magnificent Seven really so much as Seven Samurai. Credit where credit is due mate. But yeah I agree. I love the Classic WBs injokes too like the contacting iris/pupils and "Yoiks - and awaaaay!". Right on about Inconvenient Truth, but I won't hate it if that IS what it turns out to be as it's pretty much honest from the premise. I get what you mean though. Cheers.
undead is hilarious by Darth_Inedible	Jun 5th, 2008 01:19:09 AM
Bush has had to deal with the single worst domestic attack in US history, the single costliest natural disaster and one of the worst spikes in a vital commodity (oil at $130 vs the peak of $25 during the Clinton era) and we're STILL not in an official recession. The only way you can not give Bush props for holding things reasonably together is if you drink the Koolaid like undead and buy into the idea that Bush actually caused the hurricane, the terrorist attack and the massive surge in Chinese and Indian oil consumption to happen.
Back to the Future 2 by hopewell1	Jun 5th, 2008 01:35:46 AM
MY favorite movie as a kid. Does not age well compared to the tight script and fun of Back to the Future 1. It was a little too hard for the average moviegoer to follow but it' main fault is that there's few relatable lovable characters. I don't think Wall-E will suffer this problem
Pixar is the first perfect studio... by robamenta	Jun 5th, 2008 02:39:41 AM
and similar comments are examples of how pixar is given a free ride...they make popularist crap for the masses with storylines that are made to make you passive consumers content in a meaninless existance as long as you keep purchasing products for the benefit of your masters...i find it funny how critical people are of other product, but pixar is allowed to continue making crap. and you love it...cars, incredibles and ratatioue (however its spelled) are no better than all the animated crap being made the last 5 years.....
robamenta by jerseycajun	Jun 5th, 2008 03:35:54 AM
Beg to differ there. How do you compare movies that deal with ideas like suppression of individuality (Incredibles), artistic ethics (Ratatouille) Parental abandonment (Toy Story II), with the average subject matter typically seen in your average CGI animated film? Now they've made one mostly free of verbal dialog and that's somehow pandering to the masses? How many films celebrating artistic integrity (Ratatouille) have you been witness to as examples of "pandering" to what people are demanding to see? You know a lot of people begging for stories about rats in kitchens with astute opinions on food as an art form? Wouldn't pandering look something more like, I dunno, making only sequels to their most successful, proven stories, like "the Incredibles" which gets the most fan support for a sequel - and which had the highest action quotient?
Gotham_Night... by jerseycajun	Jun 5th, 2008 03:45:57 AM
Where's the "Marlon" character in "The Incredibles"? How about the "Lightning McQueen" character in "Bug's Life"? The "Buzz Lightyear" character in "Finding Nemo"? Remember we're looking for a specific, repeatable pattern here. Be specific.
Gross oversimplification by PowerRing	Jun 5th, 2008 06:41:47 AM
As industry folks and critics alike have said: Pixar has elevated the animation as a form, and they are excellent story tellers. There is no comparison to most other animation as it's simply not as sophisticated in almost every measurable way. To try to drag down Pixars extremely successful and critically acclaimed body of work into populist dreck is not only erroneous, but a gross oversimplification and sour grapes for the sake of making a strawman argument. I totally dismiss that attitude as useless, and unfounded. The above few post make my point for me.
sophisticated by PowerRing	Jun 5th, 2008 06:52:48 AM
Make that read: "Other animations are simply not as sophisticated as a Pixar movie." IOW: It's a paradigm of excellence. A couple of haters on an internet chat cannot change that.
charmed my fucking pants off, then went down on me in public for by Wee Willie	Jun 5th, 2008 08:11:11 AM
Yeah, you're a class act alright.
and he has a job writing for a newspaper! by PeanutGallery	Jun 5th, 2008 08:20:26 AM
what a world what a world
gotham_night by Series7	Jun 5th, 2008 08:31:40 AM
Are you one of those. Cartoons are for kids people? Pixar right now is like Disney in its hey day, except using original stories. Except I don't think John Lasseter hates the Jews the way Walt did.
Also for all those by Series7	Jun 5th, 2008 08:41:16 AM
OHHHH ITS JOHNNY FIVE boners. First off, really? Does this movie look anything like Short Circuit? Also it doesn't talk. Also I think Harry and Co already addressed this, that sort of looking type of robot dates way back past Short Circuit in real life. Plus for those of you how are above KIDDIE movies, every pixar movie is loaded with nostalgic movie references so I bet thats part of Wall-E's look. I could really care less about any movie this summer save for this one. I've been beging the theater people to give me the big wall-e cut out or huge ass banner they have or poster or ANYTHING! I took too long and they say they already have a list and the dumb lady wouldn't put me on it (even though the list is only 2 deep). I even tried to bribe her but she wouldn't budge. Shit $20 is pretty good for a movie poster that doesn't even belong to you. They had this kick ass Silver Surfer Satue poster and Simpsons couch last year they raffled off and they both went for over $500. Shit if they get something that cool for Wall-E, I know I got $500 I will throw down...... wait this movie is anti materialism.
Number 1 cartoon of our time so sayth Yahoo... by P.Venkman	Jun 5th, 2008 10:12:51 AM
...is Finding Nemo. There, if Yahoo says it it must be true. Case closed. Three words for all "The Incredibles" fans out there...Clown fish b*tches.
look at the incredibles objectively shall we? by robamenta	Jun 5th, 2008 11:16:05 AM
throughout the whole film, it says that the father is unhappy being a suburban sludge..fat...depressed...then he lets go of hus obigations, becomes super again, fit..then at the end he says..'oh but the real adventure is being a father!'...what a bunch of crap...of course you cant make a film that would make the audience feel threatened or question thier beliefs by the mesage of the film..(at least not anymore) so they throw that in. where is the artistry there? spineless spineless filmamaking... only interested in making money
go watch 'Persepolis' by robamenta	Jun 5th, 2008 11:24:11 AM
now that is an amimated film that has courage. beautiful. sad, touching and complex...
You're right, robamenta... by jerseycajun	Jun 5th, 2008 11:49:53 AM
Bob should have ditched his loser family for Mirage. It should have ended with Bob filing for divorce and leaving Helen with three superpowered kids to raise by herself. Why is it some people only identify quality in art when it's showing the seedy side of life, and insist that anything that falls outside of that gritty, depressing reality can't possibly display artistry? When did everyone sign on to your rather narrow and limited definition of "artistry"? H ey, does this mean all films with uplifting endings are hack films now? Man, I never thought I was so bourgeoisie! I must go now and update my favorite films list to include only films that threaten my sense of the world, because the rest are only hacks who want me to feel good!
jerseycajun by robamenta	Jun 5th, 2008 11:59:11 AM
why the sarcasm? if you love your films that way go be happy
rob... by jerseycajun	Jun 5th, 2008 12:07:45 PM
You took the time out to slam us who are fans, and I quote: "they make popularist crap for the masses with storylines that are made to make you passive consumers content in a meaninless existance as long as you keep purchasing products for the benefit of your masters..." And yet, I'm the one being told to "go be happy"? You don't seem to happy yourself if you feel the need to incite people who enjoy these films with your ill-aimed discontent. Take your own advice. Go watch what films you like and leave us alone, or back up your arguments without the personal insults and we'll talk like civilized folk.
and... by jerseycajun	Jun 5th, 2008 12:09:24 PM
you still haven't addressed any of the rebuttals to your assertions.
robamenta by Series7	Jun 5th, 2008 12:14:53 PM
The point Mr. Incredible was trying to make was that now he could have a real connection with his kids and the family shared a common bond, bringing them closer together. Being held back by society was making him depressed, now that he could be himself and do what he wanted he had a new joy for life. Even in the begining when he is talking to his son about sports you see Mr. Incredible get all excited because his boy got a chance to use his ability. Not every movie has to question your beliefs, especially a kids movie. This movie is about doing what you love to do in life and giving it your all. Also about family and how families need to learn to work together and find common goals to bond. I don't think you can knock the Incredibles for not having a good enough message. What about Happy Feet, that movie ended with you questioning your beliefs. Its become more apparent that seafood will probably be gone in the next 10-20 years unless something is done about it. I told that to a lady at my work eating some shrimp or something and she didn't believe me. You just being a I'm dark and moody and shop at Hot Topic too cool to see the real joy in Pixar movies. I'm sorry Pixar doesn't exsits to bring you down about what is wrong in the world, just watch any interview with John Lasseter he is like the happiest guy in the world. If you want to be all anti corporation because all they want is money, go knock on the Dreamworks movies. Yeah there is a lot of consumeristic nature with Pixar movies, but thats the nature of the beast and probably more of Disney's doing then anything.
i am not getting into an on line hate on by robamenta	Jun 5th, 2008 12:17:08 PM
I have stated what i wanted to...i am not going to change your mind... at least not now...you are dead set on making me the villian...but maybe my little nugget of desention will grow in your mind over time. or maybe not.. thats your call ...all i said was stop giving pixar a free ride....
Arrrgh... by jerseycajun	Jun 5th, 2008 12:27:30 PM
"Giving Pixar a free ride" is your interpretation of our actions. Maybe it's your (faulty) way of rationalizing how so many other people find satisfaction in that which you don't. Heaven forbid we actually feel Pixar has earned the high marks we give it, and that we just don't share your view of what is and isn't a measure of art. I can respect your opinion, I just don't respect your attitude towards those who don't share it. It's condescending and insulting. Remember that when you choose your words next time.
And I criticize "Cars" by jerseycajun	Jun 5th, 2008 12:33:06 PM
for being Pixar's most pedestrian and average work. I don't see them as infallible or perfect, they're just consistently good to excellent.
can you stop this now by robamenta	Jun 5th, 2008 12:35:52 PM
you remind me of people who are very sensitive when a differing view of their religion shows up...is your love of pixar so weak that it cannot take a little shot at your world view? you notice i have not stated anything negative towards you..but you continue do throw them at me personally.....i really do not like these negative back and forths..can you please stop now?
Pixar doesn't get a free ride by Series7	Jun 5th, 2008 12:37:17 PM
Dreamworks does. What your stated is that you think all Pixar wants to do is make money. Go look up John Lasseter whos been with Pixar for forever. The man is a giant kid. Who seems to look on the brighter side of life. That stupid jumping lamp is what started pixar, and Toy Story revolutionized how we see cartoons now. Pixar made it ok for adults to enjoy cartoons again and got cartoons to be taken seriously. You know Pixar has only made 9 movies right.
Like I said, I can take difference of opinion. by jerseycajun	Jun 5th, 2008 12:46:04 PM
What I can't take is outright condescension, and you loaded your first salvo with an excessive amount. You made the argument a personal attack and questioned the capacity Pixar fans have for independent thought right out of the gate instead of sticking to discussion about artistic merits of the films.
guys im outta here! by robamenta	Jun 5th, 2008 12:48:49 PM
i thought i should throw this out there..im actually an artist/animator...just so you know my love for this stuff is real: www.robertoamenta.com... yes thats my work....cheers..enjoy your discussion... i am glad to have been part of it
AHA! by Series7	Jun 5th, 2008 12:55:52 PM
Knew it, you are a hot topic I'm too emo and dark artsy type too cool for pixar. I bet your dad raped you as a kid. Well whatever man I will check out your site. I am all for more animation and all sorts of animation, personally I am jealous that I can't do it. But to be an artist and act like you need to reject the mainstream because you need art to change you then you should pick a better target then Pixar, thats all I am saying. But, hey maybe you know someone who worked/works for Pixar and they are not really as high on life as they like to come off, I don't know. You didn't tell us. Now you come off as someone who was rejected to work for Pixar. Either way I am not trying to be mean, you just didn't explain your self clearly. I'm not Luke and your not Yoda standing around giving me tidbits of information on how I should view life.
by jerseycajun	Jun 5th, 2008 01:09:51 PM
I'm sorry if I got a little heated, but you should at least understand why. Referring to others as "you passive consumers content in a meaninless existance" and equating our taste with being a corporate slaves kinda rubs people the wrong way, and know that it has nothing to do with your opinion of the films themselves or the subject of animation and art in general, the latter of which I have no doubt you have a great love for (yes I went to your site). You're skilled at art, obviously and I commend you for your achievements as they outstrip my own skill as an artist (I draw comics and occasionally dabble in both real and digital media), but think about working on how you present yourself to others when you do have differences of opinion. Good luck with your work.
Yeah by Series7	Jun 5th, 2008 01:18:13 PM
What jerseycajun said. Your much better spoken then I am. But good luck you crazy Kanuck.
It all just makes me happy by Larry of Arabia	Jun 5th, 2008 08:27:06 PM
Every new add makes me smile and giggle like a schoolgirl. I can't remember any series of trailers that have done that. In fact I saw an ad about 30 seconds ago and I want to see it again immediately.
Larry of Arabia by Series7	Jun 5th, 2008 09:02:14 PM
Yeah I think I saw that add too. This movie is going to rule!

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