Anyway, there are two redeeming characters on the show and one of them is only redeeming when around the other. Miranda (? I think. The one that looks like Tilda Swinton) and her boyfriend or husband (also don't know for sure) are not only entertaining, but touching. If the show or movie revolved around them, I would watch voluntarily. No way I'm gonna go see the movie though. I will gladly stay at home and play hide-and-seek with the kids while my wife sees it with her sisters.

No, seriously, you people are wonderful. I watched them at a place called midnight sun, a gay bar that showed all episodes of Simspons, South Park and SITC. It was epic. A whole crowd of gays yelling "No Carrie". People who wandered into the bar talking loud, automaticlly getting the gay bitch "hush hunny!" I saw most of them, and enjoyed it.

So what I see here is a sad end, because the excuse for the 3 whores and their mother in the city concept, is the independent, cosmopolitan, intelligent vibe Carrie (and sometimes her friends) had. To bad this film sucks the chrome off a trailer hitch. I won't see it, not even on the airplane.

I like that some can write a fair review that trashes a film. It means alot to the reputation of this site and the diversity of it's talkbackers.

Except when she committed adultery with a Married Man while she was dating another guy. And her incredible fiscal irresponsibility and crass obsession with shallow glamour and surface beauty--and shoes.

Yeah, she is a real role model.

My wife has been going through all the old episodes, because she is awaiting the movie. I have had to listen to them. Except for Carrie, all the other characters go through real transformations--due to the fact that they meet positive males who force them to drop there selfish conceits. Carrie gets what she wants by staying basically the same.

She sucks.

and that we don't have HBO. until, of course, Martin's stuff actually gets done. then i'll be signing right up.

The ant scene, though, was supposed to be intense and somewhat graphic and cringeworthy. It made me cringe in another way. When the ants were able to pick up a large man and move him into their hole, not only was it just bad, but not believable enough to be gross. There has always been one or two "Eww" deaths in the Indy flicks and this was supposed to be the one for this one. And I know that it's not supposed to be realistic per-se, but it needs to be at least a little bit realistic to elicit the reaction it wanted.

I understand that most people hated the monkey scene, but it did nothing for me one way or the other. It didn't make me hate or love it. I just kinda shrugged.

But yes, do not be ashamed of liking the show. That means I finally get a review from a man who actually liked the show and isn't just reacting from an outside perspective, but someone who has seen all six seasons and enjoyed them.

all kinds of girls who don't give a shit about Indy4 or a sale at Prada. just there are a bunch of dudes who don't give a shit about the super bowl or StarWars.

we are all geeks, just geeks about different stuff. my lady happens to be a music geek. the only thing she "drags" me to are concerts, and they are pretty bad ass, usually.

so put me down in the "lucky as fuck" category.

Like Indy4? OK, maybe that was not fair.

Capone, you just summarized why so many remakes, sequels, and tv/novel/comic-to-silver-scree n adaptations fail. Familiarity alone does not make something worthwhile.

I think we should applaud this movie and hope it makes at least $50 million this weekend. With a running time of 2.5 hours most screens will only be able to show it maybe 4 times a day. Studios love 90 minute films because they can play 5,6, even 7 times a day. But if this can get a big box office, despite running an hour longer than most would expect, than I'm all for its success. Maybe then we'll see less studio insistance on gutting films to keep them under 2 hours.

its just a movie/show that some people like.

It's not to late to pull the film now and quickly re-pair it with rewrites, new scenes over old and tighter editing.

and a parmount MOUNTAIN dissolve. don't just dissolve onto any old thing shaped sorta like it. geez

Wow...you're almost like Queefer Bukkake but without the creativity.

It's a nice day out today where I live, maybe it's nice out where you live. I suggest you go for a walk, take a breath of fresh air. Maybe you'll see a couple birds. Be one with nature.

Fireproof, are you talking about when they and the bike skid under all the tables and the one student asks Indy a question?

And what does it matter if people have warmed to it over time? Fuck, that happens to me if I revisit a movie sometimes, it'll grow on me. I liked Hellboy when I first saw it, but like it even more now that I've viewed it a bunch more times.

I'm sure that there are those who are singing a completely different tune now, but I very much doubt everyone can be lumped into that category regarding TOD.

Me thinks you do...

I do hear you on the last part though. For me, I've never understood how anyone can say any of the first three suck. And guess what, when I see Indy 4 again on video, I may like it more than the first time.

And as Danny knows, I'm willing to give almost any movie a second chance.

And you are correct on the "seeing this movie with wife/girlfriend". I will not be seeing this with my wife, as she will see it with friends. Nor did I drag her to see Indy, as it's not her thing.

But I do know lots of couples who see every movie together, and take turns picking the movie to see.

There is no right answer to the question.

The wife and I like Return to Me.

I prefer Three to Tango than Fools Rush In regarding Friends dude....

chicks love Jude Law.

We both know you ain't like that. Plus the CoC helped you see the light! :-)

its really, really good, but a terrible thing to watch with you Lady or Dude.

am i better off, since this last one was as bad as folks are saying?

or is it like the new Star Wars shit, divorced completely from your childhood heroes?

And yes, just like with Star Wars, nothing will change my love of the OT.

"bad" egg. What the fuck is bag egg?

like the McG Terminator or the new Dune that could very well be crap, I will always love what i have always loved.

This is really a question for Capone. Judging from this TB, 98% of y'all doing the bitching haven't actually seen this, nor ever will.

He also posted in the obit today as well, not too much later than me. As it was not the appropriate time to pester him, I did not.

And he tends to pop in on any HBO related show, since he despises HBO something fierce.

Cut the homophobia, please. It's just stupid.

As for Sex and the city, well, I'll watch most any movie with my wife, but I would rather take a shotgun blast to the nuts than watch that POS. Absolutely uh uh.

I blame both Spielberg & Lucas.

Now the ants were amazing. My only complaint is that there should've been some gore. I expected the soldiers to get stripped to the bone. Although technically Indy called them by the incorrect name; Siafu are the African Army Ant, Marabunta are the South American, but eh - whatever.

Best romantic comedy of all time? For me, it will always be the Quiet Man. Not that big of a Duke fan, but that one was one really damned good film.

Are you not a fan of any form of entertainment about women? Does it all have to be "guy shit"? No. AICN has reports from film festival entries from people like Nicole Holofcener and Lisa Cholodenko and many female filmmakers who represent a certain side of the art and commerce, and I think denying readers of this site that facet of the industry is against its own assumed mission statement.

You are perfectly allowed to not like the show or the movie, but don't rail against the site for publishing the story or me for reading it.

Stay safe x 100.

I think, however, that I'm starting to rub off on her a little bit more. This summer, for the first time ever, she has expressed a desire to see a whole slew of guy-type films: The Happening, Tropic Thunder, Pineapple Express, and, believe it or not, The Dark Knight. Yeah, I know--my first reaction when she said that was to ask who the hell she was and what had she done with my wife?

That's right, Phategod--I actually enjoy my wife being happy even if I'm not the center of the fucking universe for 2 hours. You know what is even crazier? She actually feels the same way! Even though we both have friends who we could hang with, and we do hang with them sepparately, we both tend to have more fun hanging together like a bunch love-sick teenagers.

Oh sure, its sappy, and it is most deffinitely hokey, but we really do have the best times together. Now, maybe thats because I tend to be an outgoing, life-of-the-party person and a romantic and I find her to be infinitely interesting and entertaining (even after 15 years of marriage and courtship), but for whatever reason, we both really, really enjoy each other's company, and that usually trumps whatever the hell we're watching.

That movie really was crap, wasn't it? How about that setting sun, huh? Personally, I don't think that movie would have been that infamous if Wayne had not tried so hard to present that movie as a serious commentary on our fighting forces. If he had just made it and walked away, the movie would have been properly booed and promptly forgotten. Instead, Wayne kept pushing it and shining his brass over the thing like it was his next Searchers or Alamo. Poor, poor Wayne.

BTW, Kristen submitted the Heroes episode 'Four Months Ago' as her tape for a Best Drama Supporting Actress nomination. She was the only good thing about season 2 of Heroes, so hopefully (but highly unlikely) she'll at least make the semifinal 10 cut.

Anybody remember a 2003 WB midseason series called The O'Keefes? She had a 2-episode stint in that one.

As for that other movie every one is talking about in this thread, I cannot believe how much people complain about the CGI, the water falls, or the nuked fridge but give the fantasticaly bad writing a pass (granted some of the former complaints are part of the horrible, horrible script). I can only assume that George and Steven new exactly what they were doing (cashing in on nostalgia and the beloved originals) when they agreed to use this script. There was so much, that if you stop and think about it, makes no sense, and is there as a weak plot device...especially the Skull's apparent ability to be selectivly magnetic! I mean they used it for one reason only, and that was so Indy could find the body/skull in the wharehouse/graveyard, for the rest of the movie it is completely ignored! Take for example how they are standing right next to the Skull when they make Indy look into the eyes, nobodies, medals, or guns, or bullets or anything is being attracted to the Skull. And what about the entire jungle chase, why isn't the skull simply clanging against one of the vehicles and sticking there? Now at first glance that might seem like a nit pick, but it really isn't, you can't establish that an artifact is soooo magnetic that it pulls even non conducting metals like gold, but then drop when it doesn't fit the scene...its a contrivance and it sucks.

So now I'm going to the movie.

Not that it has anything to do with Sex and the City...

NO one here was anticipating this with the other summer movies, so why is the space of this site wasted on it?? Random horseface jokes I guess.

You're not going to of course so here is some advice: If you don't want to be called an asshole, then......don't act like one by posting a threat on an anonymous forum. It's an especially ridiculous threat considering we're at movie geek mecca.

As far as SEX AND THE CITY goes I am surprised that AICN is giving this film so much coverage. I did go see it with my girlfriend and three of her friends, being around some tits and ass is always good. But the film is good. It's really good. I am speaking purely as a filmgeek, or more accurately a screenplaygeek. The film is structured beautifully. It balances the four characters well. Various parts are set-up perfectly and pay-off perfectly. Is it about women, fashion, relationships, fashion, and fashion? Yes, but subject matter aside, at least it was written well. Which as we all know now, KOTCS isn't. The problem with the new Indiana Jones is that three guys in their sixties got together and had a great time making a fourth outing in their adventure series. They put Shia LeBeouf in it to guarantee the youth audience, promote the HELL out of it, put it on 4000+ screens, and watch the money roll in. Making a great movie was not really their intent.

60 million reasons why Kristen Bell and Co. PWN yer asses. ;)

SATC is about shoes and fashion (among other things most geeks don't give a flying fuck about). We can all agree that these elements are some of the main ones present. So, fashion, as presented in SATC is what they "Geek out" on. The "Real Geeks" argument goes that this is incomparable to collecting comics, Blu-Rays or collectors models of princess Amedala masturbating. It's not really the same. I'll tell you what is the same.

There are manga nerds all over this site, and I will bet you dimes for dollars there are some serious Nike whores in that crowd. I bet some of you have spent a pretty dime on a hoody that zips up to look like spidey. So fashion does play a role in some geeks life. So if nerds like shoes and fashion, does that mean that some "Real Geeks" could relate to Carrie?

I'm not trying to cause trouble. I'm just pointing it out that SATC made more money over the weekend than Indy. It could all change when the real numbers are counted tomorrow, but that's still a $10m gap that probably won't change too much.

We'll see how SATC does next weekend as well, considering it can't make more than $55.7m because it came out TWO DAYS AGO. So it's not its complete total. That's when a film goes out of theatres. Understand?

Also, 2.5 hours would mean five episodes of the show, not three.

[KIND OF A SPOILER BUT NOT REALLY AT ALL]

motorcycle chase and then walk out. You will be saying "That was really great...I kind of want to see the rest of this movie". But don't. Don't see the rest of the movie. I'm a big Indy fan, and I was let down tremendously.

Choose...wisely.

And Indy should of said "Screw Ox" and moved to Europe as he intended. At least we would of been saved from crotch-pelting car-crossing blade-weilding ham-antics, snakes-on-a-rope, monkey Fonz, picnicing ants, taking the family out for a dip, ect.

And why hasn't anybody mentioned Michael Bay?

It isn't that these characters are women, it is that they are deplorable. Not the same thing.

Trying to reason with most on here is futile. You are arguing with Fanboys (I use that term in the most derogatory of ways). This is a group who hates anything they don't love, and they can not love anthing that is similar to something else they love. Fans of Family Guy must hate South Park, fans of Star Wars must hate Lord of the Rings, fans of BSG must hate Firefly, etc. It makes me wonder: If irrational hatred stems from fear, for those above with such vitriol for SATC, what is it you are afraid of?

Really, the thing I don't get is the powerful hatred some have for this project. It's just a movie. It's not your thing, don't go see it. But reading some of the comments above you would think the characters and the show have personally injured people here; that the show was a personal attack against them. It was just a tv show that's now a movie. You don't have to watch.

It makes a huge difference

Jarv, I guess the difference for me is I don't know anyone who sees these women as role models. However, I can understand the disgust one might have with those that do. I'm sure it's like fans of Entourage who copy the behaviour of those characters. When I see some pudgy dude walking down the street with a 3-day beard, oversize jersey, and askew baseball cap all I feel is sympathy for this pathetic loser. I mean, really, the highest you can aspire to is being like Turtle? So sad.

I guess the difference for me with regards to SATC is the women I know who enjoy it don't emulate the characters. They may see a familiar situation in some episode but don't sit around figuring who is which character. Perhaps the difference is they have IQs in the triple digits and can enjoy something without having to be defined by it.

Suspension of disbelief has limits.