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Maybe first?
by Abominable Snowcone
May 28th, 2008
07:40:18 AM
Perhaps?
Never saw the show
by Abominable Snowcone
May 28th, 2008
07:44:05 AM
There's no chance of me ever seeing this movie. My wife and her friends used to watch (my wife being only an occasional viewer) and I picked up just enough info about the pre-Desperate Housewives women to know they were completely unlikeable "divas" as Massa calls them.
love the article title
by greentealite
May 28th, 2008
07:44:11 AM
that is all
Nasty old hags
by TedBundy
May 28th, 2008
07:45:02 AM
Who think they've "still got it" will die lonely.
Damn You Michael Bay
by MCMLXXVI
May 28th, 2008
07:45:59 AM
Damn You Michael Bay
Yeah, but...........
by ChiefRoberts
May 28th, 2008
07:50:09 AM
Kim Cattrall is still hot tho! Does she get her tits out in this or what?
So they made a movie version of that show...
by Kid Z
May 28th, 2008
07:51:31 AM
...about three whores and their mom? (Brian Griffin rules!)
I was forced to watch a couple episodes of this shitfest.
by AgentArchangel
May 28th, 2008
07:52:34 AM
The only thing standing between me and precious TV time was a group of women who just HAD to fucking watch the last episode. I experienced it, just to see what the fuss was all about, and it left me broken. SON OF A BITCH! Why in God's green earth did they make this film? Even some people who liked the show hate the movie. Thanks for the review Massawyrm, I only wish you included massive spoilage so I could arm myself with the crystal skull needed to ward off this film's fans when I get to bitching about why it sucks.
Thanks, Massawyrm!
by The Harp
May 28th, 2008
07:53:06 AM
My wife was trying to make me go see this with her, but she always loves your reviews, so I sent it to her, and now SHE's thinking about skipping it! You saved my life, man! Is there any way you could write a review of something and mention that every Thursday should be "Steak and a Blowjob Day?" Apparently, she'll listen to you.
Bad movie or not - the fans will never admit to hating it.
by beastie
May 28th, 2008
07:54:52 AM
Anyway, how do you get stuck reviewing Bratz and this, less than a year apart?
should have had a pissed off bear in this
by just pillow talk
May 28th, 2008
08:00:31 AM
The four bimbos try and explain to the bear why it's wrong to eat people, and that fashion is most important. The bear mauls them all. Six and a half minute film.

Roll credits.

or samurai monkeys
by just pillow talk
May 28th, 2008
08:01:23 AM
who run amok in NYC.

Hilarity ensues.

we can even have dancing penguins
by just pillow talk
May 28th, 2008
08:02:22 AM
but who secretly work for the CIA, feverishly working to prevent any further SATC movies from reaching the big screen.
Hags and the City
by DarthBakpao
May 28th, 2008
08:02:25 AM
they should replace the casts with Jessica Alba, Scarlett Johansson, Megan Fox, Mary Elizabeth Winstead.
The show was only ever dick and fart jokes
by Laserhead
May 28th, 2008
08:02:49 AM
A bunch of aging whores acting like gay men. Yeah, people are going to turn out to see this. BOMB.
they should have the same concept...
by just pillow talk
May 28th, 2008
08:03:09 AM
but with little people.

Starring Warwick Davis of course.

Tony Jaa should come flying in from off-screen
by just pillow talk
May 28th, 2008
08:04:02 AM
and FLAMING LEG KICK them all.

They burst into flames.

Roll credits.

you know 2for2true is gonna see this
by just pillow talk
May 28th, 2008
08:04:53 AM
and stab all the shitheels in the mouth if they start yapping during his "reflection time".
saw most of Tremors II the other night...
by just pillow talk
May 28th, 2008
08:07:32 AM
It was really missing something...Reba maybe?

Though Burt was okay in it, dealing with those new graboids with small arms fire and some form of hand-to-hand combat.

If you ever wondered why
by Series7
May 28th, 2008
08:10:30 AM
the rest of the wold hates us...its because of Sex and the City. Like i've had a couple of concussions playing Rugby, but I sat through half an episode of this crap and I made sure that night that someone woke me up ever half hour to make sure that I hadn't gone into a coma.
Can't pay me enough to see this
by Sithdan
May 28th, 2008
08:11:10 AM
I can't stand the show, and this looks even more painful. Two and a half hours? Christ, what were they thinking?
I could just imagine the premieres for this film...
by AgentArchangel
May 28th, 2008
08:19:08 AM
The director and cast stand in front of the audience, making small talk about the film. All of a sudden, SJP herself seems seized with some sort of evil spirit, she speaks in tongues. Her aged compatriots join in her madness. The evil SheDemon then commands all the women in the audience to seal the "chamber" and to offer a sacrifice to them. She demands every man's scrotum, so that they may be silent during their "masterpiece". Chaos ensues, the poor men lie in freshly castrated heaps, and as an added bonus SJP uses her Hulk arms to rip off the director's genetalia. As all of the women chant in sinster sounding Latin, the Head Bitch herself screams, "BLOOD ORGY!" Guys, prevent them from making a sequel and refuse to take your significant other to see this film. Do it for the good of the nation, and the good of your reproductive organs.
it only seems to reinforce what I never liked about Sex and the
by Trazadone
May 28th, 2008
08:19:21 AM
Exactly! For years whenever I say I don't like this show people accuse me of not "getting it". It's not that I don't get it, I just think the characters are all dispicable, dysthymic, and overall unlikable. And please, is the world still going to pretend that SJP isn't the ugliest actress out there?
$600 for a pair of purple fuzzy pumps?
by Knuckleduster
May 28th, 2008
08:20:04 AM
That much money for something you step on? Fuck that.

Now, if it was indigo...

Sarah Jessica Parker looks like a horse!
by Marxeffect
May 28th, 2008
08:21:19 AM
oh and its return of the jedi, not the revenge :)
A rancid show/movie about trash-talking shrews
by No Respectable Gentleman
May 28th, 2008
08:23:36 AM
... who do an awful lot of shopping. Is this what forty years of feminism has given us?
Massa takes one for the team, and Harry...
by Pennsy
May 28th, 2008
08:23:54 AM
He deserves combat pay to boot.
I never understood the womens fascination with
by Series7
May 28th, 2008
08:26:05 AM
transvestites?
What? I heard this was good.
by YakMalla
May 28th, 2008
08:27:00 AM
Well, except for the CGI gophers.
Epic Win
by tomdolan04
May 28th, 2008
08:27:39 AM
Nail on the head "They’re not flirty and single because it’s so hard to find a good man. It’s because they’re all completely self-obsessed, neurotic, high maintenance divas".

Seriously I've heard female mates throw around the words 'feminist' and 'girl power' around with this pile of shit show. If this is feminism exerting itself then god damn get the whole lot of them back in the kitchen quick. Admittedly it's introduced a lot of nice impressionable girls that being a slut and shagging around is acceptable since ironically all men are bastards, so i guess it balances out.

Since the movie seems to have taken the risque element out of the equation though then what ungodly purpose does it serve. Bah.

You know what I'd like to see next?
by fassbinder79
May 28th, 2008
08:30:07 AM
Carnivale The Movie. HBO make it happen. Tie up those loose ends.
maybe a nuke will go off...and when they all
by just pillow talk
May 28th, 2008
08:31:07 AM
try and fit into a fridge, the latch won't catch.

Problem solved.

Two and half fuckin hours
by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks
May 28th, 2008
08:32:15 AM
Massa deserves a purple heart!
No, NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks
by BrandonGK
May 28th, 2008
08:33:10 AM
Massa deserves a congressional medal of honor.
what this movie needs it graboids...
by just pillow talk
May 28th, 2008
08:33:57 AM
Lots of them.
A Theory
by YakMalla
May 28th, 2008
08:35:17 AM
You like S&TC if you can sort of imagine being one of those characters: female, rich, hot, lotsa sex, shopping, etc. Not that you ARE female, rich, hot, et al, just that, if you got a couple of breaks, that could be you.

Now, if you CAN'T imagine being one of those characters (say you're male, straight, country lovin', non-American, religious, nice, etc.), you see the show through a very different lens, and what you see is shallow, self-indulgent, possibly horrifying.

wow, nicely said massa, not watching this shit
by couP
May 28th, 2008
08:35:49 AM
maybe if it was just centred around kristin davis
marx
by deSambor
May 28th, 2008
08:37:00 AM
there were 'revenge of the jedi' posters made because that was its title before georgie changed it; thats why the damn things are worth $1000
i'm gay and i hate the show
by robat
May 28th, 2008
08:37:25 AM
I also know women who hate it. So don't generalise please. Anyway I hope to never see this film.
Smug smug smug smug
by tomdolan04
May 28th, 2008
08:38:32 AM
In the show, the voiceover of Carrie is what sent me over the edge. Self-righteous, smug, sanctamonious and patronising wench. Two and a half hours of THAT? Sweet freewheeling christ on a bike.
massa I'd fuck a harpie but
by logicalnoise01
May 28th, 2008
08:41:28 AM
I'd never fuck sarah jessica parker.
This statement alone seals the deal....
by matalo
May 28th, 2008
08:41:36 AM
"you might understand why I was beginning to crave the cold taste of steel from the barrel of a colt about 45 minutes in"

I promised the wife I would take her. I better get some buttsecks afterwards!!!

TWO AND A HALF HOURS OF SJ'S BIG HONKER
by la_sith
May 28th, 2008
08:43:04 AM
That would be no, no for me.
I hated the show, but...
by rbatty024
May 28th, 2008
08:43:11 AM
I was kind of hoping the movie wouldn't suck. Not that I'm going to watch it, mind you. But guys have been damn lucky with some fine genre films of the past eight years and it's a real shame that all women get is 27 Dresses. Why are romantic comedies and other films aimed at women so bad?
Another Theory
by YakMalla
May 28th, 2008
08:44:48 AM
S&TC is basically an empowerment fantasy. If you find these women's use of power anything beyond trivially appealing, you probably shouldn't be trusted with any power yourself.
only to discover that instead he’s entered a two and a half hour
by Jonah Echo
May 28th, 2008
08:47:17 AM
genius, Massa!
er that should have read...
by Jonah Echo
May 28th, 2008
08:47:55 AM
only to discover that instead he’s entered a two and a half hour oubliette from which there is no escape.
All you Talkbackers..
by DonLogan
May 28th, 2008
08:50:09 AM
that refer to the actresses in this show as 'TRANNIES', 'HAGS' and SJP as 'HORSE-FACED' and 'FUCKING UGLY AS FUCK' are completely and utterly correct. Why women buy this shit and are convinced SJP is some kind of 'style icon' is beyond me, I mean if your girlfriend turned up wearing a fucking tutu with a bow-tie and waistcoat she'd be heckled right there in the street. But for some reason women think that the TINY CRONE-FACED WART HEADED BULIMIC TITLESS NEEDY SHALLOW BITCH looks good!?!
Wow this headline
by egg86
May 28th, 2008
08:52:48 AM
is incredibly offensive. I get that you really hated this film, but was it necessary to convey that through rape imagery?
DonLogan
by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks
May 28th, 2008
08:53:25 AM
I guess they all wanna fuck Ferris.
Fuck the Medal of Honor
by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks
May 28th, 2008
08:54:26 AM
Massa for President!
DonLogan
by just pillow talk
May 28th, 2008
08:57:25 AM
"TINY CRONE-FACED WART HEADED BULIMIC TITLESS NEEDY SHALLOW BITCH looks good!?!"

Could not have been put better.

egg86, what rape imagery? That's just how you viewed the headline.

Movie abomination
by kwisatzhaderach
May 28th, 2008
08:57:54 AM
hopefully Indy will bury it.
Plant
by menacingphantom
May 28th, 2008
08:58:44 AM
So how long was the film again Massa?
by Big_Bubbaloola
May 28th, 2008
09:00:40 AM
I keed I keed!!!!!!!
Nice review
by Bobo_Vision
May 28th, 2008
09:01:12 AM
This show and movie is like the tub of ice cream that some women eat after they get dumped or when the guy doesn't call. It caters to their shallow, materialistic, man-hating/needing urges, and convinces them that they are empowered and have strength in their mutual shallow numbers. And it also convinces ugly horse-faced women that they are in fact attractive to men.

If you ever see a woman order a cosmo at a bar, you can be sure she lives and dies by this show, and you can read her like a book from there.

Sex and the City is vaguely feminist...
by rbatty024
May 28th, 2008
09:03:28 AM
in that third wave feminist kind of way. You know, the feminism that comodifies everything so it can be sold back to women as empowering when in reality it's just reinforcing the worst stereotypes of women.
This was actually once a good show
by youhatestarwars
May 28th, 2008
09:05:41 AM
Of course the women aren't going to be flawless male fantasies. They never were. Wish-fulfilment doesn't equate with fiction. Hell, neither does real life. I like all the women to varying degrees (except Sarah Jessica Parkers's character who is a fucking retard), But it's probably fair to say that this movie will resemble the latter-day fag-hag fashion show superbitchfest that it became, rather than the well-written, relevant and poignant human stories it once showcased.
If you don't like the show, then why
by Cruel_Kingdom
May 28th, 2008
09:05:51 AM
would you think you'd like the movie? That's fucking stupid.
If your GF drags you to this
by I Dunno
May 28th, 2008
09:09:35 AM
She better give the best head the world has ever seen. I mean better head than Heather Graham and Tom Cruise combined.

But I'll repeat my axiom. If you and your girl have to drag each other to movies, if the same movies (or TV shows for that matter) don't click with each other, it's not going to work.

Sorry deSambor
by Marxeffect
May 28th, 2008
09:10:13 AM
My bad :'(
It
by The Funketeer
May 28th, 2008
09:16:54 AM
Honestly...
by HeyJoe
May 28th, 2008
09:17:28 AM
Does this review surprise anyone? Did anyone who is a fan of this site and what it represents imagine this would be a good movie for the geek crowd?
It's the chick version of Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back
by The Funketeer
May 28th, 2008
09:18:50 AM
No reason to be made other than to appease the fans of the show who for some reason felt there was a need to keep the "story" going. Haven't seen the movie. Won't see the movie. But my wife watched the show and I saw enough of it to agree (for once) with Massa that these women are all terrible people who deserve every ounce of unhappiness the writers put on them. Who wants to sit around and watch a bunch of people they don't like?
rbatty024
by tomdolan04
May 28th, 2008
09:18:58 AM
Yeah it is quite bad that realistic/strong female characters are a lot rarer than male ones, without them being reduced to being drippy love/sex objects or foil for the guys to drive the plot along.

Which gives them all the more reason to not put up with this trash really.

This sounds like the perfect movie
by slone13
May 28th, 2008
09:22:08 AM
...for the men who didn't like Indy 4.
Lucky Me....
by NoCalFlicks
May 28th, 2008
09:26:17 AM
I guess I would consider myself as one of the lucky fellas out there seeing as that my wife pretty much despises the show. One thing I am truly sick of is when I tell someone I thing the show and ESPECIALLY the four female lead characters, SUCK, I repeatedly get told "Oh you just don't get them" For fucks sake, I get them all right, they are the same shallow, over the hill, neurotic, sanctamonious, self-righteous types that can be found in any public place on a friday or saturday night after the sun has gone down.
3 Hookers and their mom...
by charlie dontsurf
May 28th, 2008
09:32:39 AM
i do like the dark haired cutie tho...
How dare these sluts comment on Star Wars
by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks
May 28th, 2008
09:34:47 AM
A Super FUCK YOU to all involved in this disgusting display of where our culture is at.
The whole argument
by tomdolan04
May 28th, 2008
09:34:56 AM
about 'oh you hate it, well your not its target demographic so you're wrong' is the most frustrating one in the world. Its retarded. It didn't work for George Lucas and it doesn't work here.

A bad film is a bad film.

Is this really a surprise......
by D o o d
May 28th, 2008
09:39:13 AM
I mean we all suspected it would be shit and it turns out that it is. This is nothing more than a money making venture by the people involved and as much as I'd love to knock 'em for it. I can't. People will go see this and it will make a lot of money. I'll hate it all the same!
wow, bob, wow ...
by emu47
May 28th, 2008
09:43:16 AM
The vitriol in this talkback is ... ah, hell, not surprising in the least I guess. The headline is, as has been said, completely tasteless, and the comments here are the most bitter reactions to a 'chick flick' I think I've ever seen. I'm a straight male, and I liked the show, for whatever that's worth. For me, the show always seemed to like and treat its male characters far more fairly than a show like--oh, I don't know--Entourage, for example, treats it's female characters. Sex and the City is less shallow than Entourage, but I guess far more threatening. Wonder why that is.
So how long is this movie?
by Midnightxpress
May 28th, 2008
09:49:41 AM
:) Great review, made me shoot coffee all over my keyboard
Quite seriously...
by Latauro
May 28th, 2008
09:51:09 AM
...when I got the invite to the Sex and the City screening, my reaction was "Hahaha, not a chance, but I can't wait to read Massa's review". So I avoided watching the film, and got to read your take on it. That's called a win-win.

Also, I wouldn't call myself a Trekkie/ee/er/ovski by any stretch of the imagination, but when one of us visits the other's continent and we finally get around to having that oft-promised beer, I *will* tell you why Insurrection is great. No, seriously.
emu47, dude its two and a half fuckin hours
by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks
May 28th, 2008
09:53:08 AM
but fair enough mate, to each their own I guess.
"Insurrection" is great...
by Christopher3
May 28th, 2008
09:54:53 AM
For testing the resolution of your HDTV, as anyone who reads CNet's TV reviews knows.
For what its worth....
by Bobo_Vision
May 28th, 2008
09:55:47 AM
...I hate the show "Entourage" for most of the same reasons I hate "Sex in the City". Those guys are douches.
"...convinces ugly horse-faced women.."
by Silverglade
May 28th, 2008
09:56:26 AM
"And it also convinces ugly horse-faced women that they are in fact attractive to men. "

Love it. Makes me think there is some pool of horse-face chicks out there praising the success of another horse-face. I wonder if all the horse-faces get together for meetings.

you really need some female reviwers round here
by FILMFUNK
May 28th, 2008
10:02:02 AM
Cum guzzling old harpies aint my idea of a good night out and if the TV show had been men treating women the way these girlpower assheads treated men then it would have been banned! Massa i didn't read the review but spotted the line -

''I just couldn’t get over how much this shared in common with BRATZ''

Harry give this guy a break! or does Massa actually seek out these flicks over normal movies!?

emu47
by Laserhead
May 28th, 2008
10:05:50 AM
There's nothing threatening about Sex and the City. The show's about four selfish, cock-crazed neurotics whining about their problems getting cock. It pretends its characters are empowered when in reality they're servile and whiny and build their entire lives around staring at their navels and trolling for cock. The only threatening thing about it is that this when this kind of shallow, narcissistic work is held up as being somehow 'good', then I worry about our civilization. Its fans are people who like having their most shallow, self-absorbed traits legitimized by the four gay men dressed like women on S&TC. You're only defense for it is that men on the show are treated better than women on Entourage? So fucking what? I don't hate how men are treated on S&TC, I hate the characters on S&TC, period. For the record, I don't like Entourage for much the same reason, but I think that show takes itself less seriously than S&TC. The writing is charmless and without insight, yet it treats the most obvious realizations as great profundities that only horse-face could have come up with. It's pretentious in that it dresses up its narcissism and shallowness with a vocabulary that believes it's being deep and insightful. It's anti-romantic.
me me me me me
by hoisin
May 28th, 2008
10:10:56 AM
I guarantee that that's all this film is about.
So how long is this movie?
by The Seaward
May 28th, 2008
10:12:19 AM
Your Opinion Please On This Deal: The Dark Knight and SATC
by Clarke
May 28th, 2008
10:12:59 AM
Here's the deal in my house: I have made a promise to attend this 'Sex and the City' movie with my wife, with the agreement on the other end that she attends a July 16 early opening of 'The Dark Knight' in Chicago at Navy Pier. What do you think? Is this a fair trade?! Have I oversold myself?! Is it worth it?!! Massawyrm's review has me thinking I'm gonna be on the losing end.
The review and feedback
by pearlanddean
May 28th, 2008
10:15:41 AM
is the funniest thing I've read in ages. I can't stop laughing every time I think of the phrase 'horse-faces'.
Clarke.....your a dead man
by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks
May 28th, 2008
10:15:58 AM
Your woman gets to see class, you get to see assfaces.
Don't do it clarke
by Laserhead
May 28th, 2008
10:16:04 AM
Just don't make her go see Dark Knight, either. Go see it by yourself. Everybody wins.
SO MASSAWYRM, I GOT UP THIS MORNING AND READ THIS
by BurgerTime
May 28th, 2008
10:16:41 AM
And laughed my fucking ass off. Let's go back to the highlight reel:

1. "Add to that the fact that it is extraordinarily light on plot to begin with and you might understand why I was beginning to crave the cold taste of steel from the barrel of a colt about 45 minutes in."

2. "Montage after montage after montage with each and every problem finding a solution by the fabulously dressed four getting together, squee-ing in a pitch that will deafen dogs and neuter most of the males in the audience, and realizing that friendship will get you through any bout of rampant self-absorption."

3. "Oh, so this is what happens when you leave Bratz dolls in the sun too long." Ouch.

4. "I pity any man who walks into this with his girl thinking he is in for just the usual hour and a half ass pounding only to discover that instead he’s entered a two and a half hour oubliette from which there is no escape.

Instant classic. Thank God for this site.

You can make a show about shallow people, but...
by rbatty024
May 28th, 2008
10:17:50 AM
it shouldn't be anything like Sex and the City. Sex and the City pretended that these shallow characters had depth and were empowered without actually showing us why.

On the other hand there's a show like Seinfeld, which had shallow characters, but made it clear they were awful people. They were not heroes. Instead, the audience is supposed to recognize their own failings in the characters without putting the same characters on a pedestal.

But what do I know. I can count the number I've times I've seen Sex and the City on one hand.

flee the country Clarke...
by just pillow talk
May 28th, 2008
10:19:05 AM
It's the only answer.
rbatty that was perfect
by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks
May 28th, 2008
10:22:24 AM
Seinfeld was great because they knew they were bad people.
Clarke, this brings me back to my earlier question...
by rbatty024
May 28th, 2008
10:24:12 AM
why are there no quality genre films for women? Is it because Hollywood is controlled by men so they pump out caricatures of what they believe women want to see? Genre films for men are widely regarded as just plain good movies (see Batman Begins or Spiderman 2), but it is not the same for women. Even when romantic comedies are positively reviewed, they are usually reviewed as "good for a romantic comedy" rather than just a plain good movie. It's a real shame.
Yeah, Julia Roberts and Gere
by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks
May 28th, 2008
10:27:57 AM
aint no Spencer and Tracy.
Exactly Nomore dirtyjokespleaseweareYanks.
by rbatty024
May 28th, 2008
10:35:23 AM
If modern romantic comedies were more like The Apartment then I would be the first one in line to buy a ticket. This time the old cliche is spot on: They just don't make them like they used to.
I can't watch any made today
by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks
May 28th, 2008
10:41:40 AM
Even When Harry met Sally is forced trype compared to the golden oldies. Matthew fuckin abbs man Mcfuckahee. Ich don't think so.
No...no...they should have let Crispin Glover direct...
by Kid Z
May 28th, 2008
10:49:13 AM
...and had an all-Downs Syndrome cast! 2.5 hours would still be too much, though.
Sex and the City was never for dudes
by blackmantis
May 28th, 2008
10:49:52 AM
Having a dude review it is just pointless. I watched the show sometime with my wife and it was often funny, but half an hour was about as much as I could take.
Did Massawyrm piss somebody off?
by Lucasblows
May 28th, 2008
10:54:21 AM
Bratz: The Movie and Sex & the City. What did you do to deserve this torture?!?!?!
But, does she marry Mr. Big??
by TopHat
May 28th, 2008
10:56:47 AM
Oh, GAWD, I can't wait! Please tell me Massa!! What about Miranda? Does she get back with her husband after the bastrad cheats on her?? Oh, I HAVE to know! Oh Gawd!!
rbatty024
by YakMalla
May 28th, 2008
11:07:14 AM
I was just about to mention Seinfeld as an example of a comedy starring self-absorbed horrible people which is actually FUNNY, and you said it first. Excellent point.

The key difference between the shows, other than the respective talent involved, was that Seinfeld never never never never EVER took itself seriously.

"real fact" #113
by just pillow talk
May 28th, 2008
11:19:19 AM
The fastest recorded speed of a racehorse was over 43 mph.

See, related to horse face Parker.

BEST ... REVIEW ... EVER !!!!
by TheCap
May 28th, 2008
11:20:26 AM
My gawd, Massa, that's frikkin' AICN GOLD !!! If this one doesn't get immediate entry into the AICN Hall Of Fame, there's no justice in the universe. And, just to correct those who think Sarah Jessica Parker looks like a horse : her face looks like a FOOT. A FOOT, people. A big, ugly, over-arched nasty FOOT. That is all.
2 and a half long hours
by moderate
May 28th, 2008
11:22:58 AM
Sex and the City the movie about a bunch of charitable prostitutes who go around sleeping with any man/thing with a penis. The 4 characters perpetuate the idea that being a whore is totally cool while the actresses who play these characters, bar the one that plays the haggy ultra-prostitute, have normal married lives outside this suedo fiction. The film and the show is a display of how pathetic or bad the culture of the US has gotten in some areas. This is not to say anything bad about the US at all. I think that folks living in the mid-west would happily contest that neither the show or the film properly represent the true cultural value of the US and they are right. No, what Sex and the City represents culturally are the very worst elements of a capitalistic system that has gone mad and is without proper boundries and regulations. These women live incredibly shallow lives, the show never mentions the struggles of many women who live in poverty or lack of support or even the struggles of single mothers. No, this series is all about the collection of over-priced sweatshop made shoes and clothing and whoring yourself out so much that you eventually become a valueless, meaningless, pathetic object. Seriously would any men here even consider one second the thought of marrying or getting into a long-term relationship with any of these protitutes?
Haha, alot of insults
by Novaman5000
May 28th, 2008
11:27:24 AM
and big internet macho men patting eachother on the back. About what I'd expect from a SATC talkback on AICN. Tell me again why you'd review this film here? So the fanboys could make fun of something that they find so inexplicably threatening? Well, whatever works, I guess.

I'd agree with Emu, though. Guys get much better/realistic roles in SATC than women do in Entourage.

Also, think about it this way:
by Novaman5000
May 28th, 2008
11:31:27 AM
If HBO were to make a Carnivale movie, it'd damn well better be 2.5 hours. This movie is this long because people who like the show want it to be this long. It's all fan service. Imagine if Indy was 90 minutes, how pissed off the fanboys would have been.
Indy at 90 Minutes...
by AgentArchangel
May 28th, 2008
11:33:05 AM
...might have been better. Less slow spots, more of the Indy we know and love, and more of a possibility for a sequel. Not that it was bad in its current form, but it could work if done the right way.
My uncle owned a Horse, I fucked it
by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks
May 28th, 2008
11:36:12 AM
but I wouldn't shag SJP on a bet
Speaking of Indy 4...
by rbatty024
May 28th, 2008
11:36:56 AM
it's damn lucky that Sex and the City is opening up a weekend after its debut. That should probably help its already impressive box office. I don't think the audiencea for these films overlap much. Warner Brothers should have been thinking about this when they decided to release Speed Racer. In a summer this long they could have figured out a weekend that gave Speed Racer a little more breathing room.
Best thing about this show/film is the talkback
by conspiracy
May 28th, 2008
11:41:13 AM
Well, that and the fact that this Show, and the shallow creatures it spawned at bars across this great nation, allowed me to shed the last vestiges of caring,emotion and heart I had when banging these cosmo swilling, Amex card melting, narcissism adled whores. Flithy tarts like this brought new meaning to the term "Grudge Fuck" Really, this show legitimized whoreism...and gave us guys an entirely new type of barfly to shag...one we truely could not give a flying fuck about nor really could never feel the least bit of emotion for outside the need to drop seed deep within their self centered wombs/bowels. Thank You Sex and The City..from the bottom of my recently emptied ball sack.
Novaman5000
by Bobo_Vision
May 28th, 2008
11:42:46 AM
Don't take this the wrong way, or respond with a catty response...but are you gay? I'm just trying to understand you.
My wife has been rewatching the entire show in preparation...
by Bones
May 28th, 2008
11:43:01 AM
I bought her the whole show as they came out on DVD for her birthdays...but it had been years since she watched them. Now it has been three weeks of every episode, back-to-back..while I try to get my work done.

Help me. I am in Hell.

This show, while vaguely entertaining in small doses years ago, is incredibly annoying now--and Kim Cattrell's hot body is not enough to make me watch it. I will be seeing Indy for the first time this weekend, rather than "Horseface, Her Shoes, Her Bitchy Friends and Their Mom in the City".

PS I Love You
by xevoid
May 28th, 2008
11:45:25 AM
I haven't seen a chick flick in a while because I haven't been forced to. But my girfriend wanted me to watch a double header of Juno and PS I You last night. I am still recuperating, but I managed. The last one was over two hours.

If she asks me to go see this though I will use the bonus get out of chick flick movie free card and instead go watch Iron Man again. Or go kill myself.
The Phantom Menace...
by TwinkieTheKid
May 28th, 2008
11:46:11 AM
...came out 9 years ago Massa. Nice math skills.
Kim Cattrall was hot in Police Academy
by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks
May 28th, 2008
11:46:24 AM
1000 years ago. When Guttenburg had a career and Micheal Winslow was hysterical.
Good point, rbatty024
by AgentArchangel
May 28th, 2008
11:46:46 AM
Speed Racer could have thrived on the "I've seen Indy already, and I'm not going to see that Sex and the City shit" market. I think the reason Warner released it so early was the IMAX window of opportunity, since Kung Fu Panda is being released in IMAX as well and they wanted a clear month or so of lead time before that monstrosity dropped. Still, these bitches could have given Speed Racer the audience it deserved. If only...
headline
by AnnaChron
May 28th, 2008
11:46:49 AM
I'm with egg86 on this one - that headline is awful. First thing after years of reading AICN that has pissed me off.
And she was hot in Mannequin, too...
by Pennsy
May 28th, 2008
11:47:37 AM
Bobovision, don't talk to him
by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks
May 28th, 2008
11:48:06 AM
poofta germs.
really AnnChron? Whattabout Harry for fucks sake?
by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks
May 28th, 2008
11:50:37 AM
Pussy juice flavored reviews and this offends you? I don't get it.
Moderate, you are wrong.
by xevoid
May 28th, 2008
11:50:43 AM
Life in highkly urban environments is vastly different than life int he midwest. My friends in Arkansas got married when they were 19 and have kids already in puberty. I am 35, happily unmarried in San Francisco. We all choose differently. Who are you to say thatw hat goes on in NYC doesnt represent the country? It sure the hell does...just a different part of the country. One thing both parts have in common is they think it's all about me, me, me. You folks in the midwest can't imagine, for example, some gay folks wanting to get married and live happily ever after...it's not part of your life. But it is part of other people's lives. And I agree the sad hags in SATC are pretty shallow, but no more so than folks in the midwest in rural environments. People are people. They will grow old too and find their happiness where they can, and just because you have kids right out of high school doesn't make you any wiser in life.
Don't sugar coat it.....
by WickedChicken37
May 28th, 2008
11:51:44 AM
Tell us how you really feel.
Yeah, she was hot in Mannequin
by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks
May 28th, 2008
11:52:59 AM
If I was old enough, I certainly woulda jerked it to that.
Novaman5000...whats threatening about easy sluts?
by conspiracy
May 28th, 2008
12:00:22 PM
If the characters were powerful, dominant, confident, yet likeable women..you might have a point. But it isn't...it is about exactly the kind of self centered sluts we like to shag and kick to the curb as soon as thier shit outweighs their fuckability..usually within a week. I'm sure many a guy remembers the last time he bagged a chick similar to these characters...I do..I drove home look as smug as Bush under a "Mission Accomplished" banner, happy I dropped my load, but relieved I'd never actually have to be around her again.
3 Hookers and their Mother
by ukharry1971
May 28th, 2008
12:03:18 PM
I dont get the show, mainly because i have testicles and am not gay.
Did anyone know what an oubliette was before Labrynth?
by half vader
May 28th, 2008
12:08:46 PM
Or what a plethora was before Three Amigos?

That's sorta rhetorical. I know the answer.

Labyrinth even.
by half vader
May 28th, 2008
12:09:45 PM
Bloody typos.
Your right vader, when I use plethora, and the person
by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks
May 28th, 2008
12:20:23 PM
looks at me blankly, I say "Youv'e never seen the Three Amigo's?"
You're review title:
by JMiles_T
May 28th, 2008
12:24:28 PM
Love it!
I hope in the next headline
by Vern
May 28th, 2008
12:27:01 PM
the movie gets I SPIT ON YOUR GRAVE style revenge on Massawyrm.

(In his defense Massawyrm probaly didn't write the headline - I don't usually write mine. That still doesn't explain why he went to see the movie, but he may be innocent of raping it.)

Now, now, now Vern...
by Massawyrm 1
May 28th, 2008
12:33:38 PM
Don't get anyone else in trouble. That vile, despicable, intentionally offensive header is 100% mine. Love it or loathe it, I'm to blame.
And half vader: yeah, I did.
by chrth
May 28th, 2008
12:34:44 PM
Heck, almost everything I learned in life was from Dungeons and Dragons. I'm sure Oubliette was in there somewhere (for a second there I thought it was in the Deck of Many Things, but that's the Donjon).
Even Monty Python couldn't be funny for 2 1/2 hours straight!
by kevred
May 28th, 2008
12:35:20 PM
...and they were the funniest thing in the history of humankind.

My favorite line of this review: "squee-ing in a pitch that will deafen dogs and neuter most of the males in the audience". The icing on a great cake.

I have no concern for or interest in this film, but sight unseen, 2 1/2 hours still sounds staggering. Even two-part season finales on TV don't go that far.

A movie for and about
by Dark Knight Lite
May 28th, 2008
12:39:43 PM
unattractive women possessing more money than intellect. Thank God my wife is more about Indy and Batman than this kind of nut-shrinking assfest. I feel sorry for any MAN who gets dragged to this. If you do find yourself watching this in a theater sitting next to a woman who guilted you into going, remember what a friend of mine always says: "Running is an option."
nice review and all...
by RaveX
May 28th, 2008
12:43:59 PM
...but how long is the movie?
Look, the solution is really simple
by chrth
May 28th, 2008
12:44:16 PM
Develop the habit of keeping paperbacks in your back pocket. Then, if you find yourself dragged to something like this, pretend you have the runs, getting up every ten minutes to go to the bathroom, spending fifteen minutes there. And take the time to read.

Note: don't do this trick for the second or third date, and don't do it too often. Also, your best bet is to continue having problems for the rest of the night, even after you've left the theater.

I have an image in my head...
by spectrebeeyatch
May 28th, 2008
12:47:01 PM
Of half you guys just saying nasty things and then seeing the movie this weekend. I never watched the show but I KNOW I'm seeing this movie because the gf wants to. But I made a deal if I see this movie with her she has to come see Hellboy 2 with me. So if I just take a nap during SATC I win!
For those of you who get dragged to this....
by Bobo_Vision
May 28th, 2008
12:49:29 PM
...when the movie reaches the One-and-a-half hour mark, yell out in the theater: "Oh Dear God, isn't it over yet?!!!" That would be gold.
spectrebeeyatch: you think half the guys here
by chrth
May 28th, 2008
12:55:54 PM
have a girlfriend?

really?

My wife dragged me to see some Kate Hudson movie...
by Big DM
May 28th, 2008
01:01:54 PM
She said I snored so loud and kept yelling "TIME TO GO?" whenever she tried to wake me up that she'll never force me to see a movie again. Take note...
Big DM
by Dark Knight Lite
May 28th, 2008
01:05:34 PM
That's gold.
Indiana Jones and the City
by pokadoo
May 28th, 2008
01:06:31 PM
Sorry...I have nothing!
Marxeffect
by Abominable Snowcone
May 28th, 2008
01:13:06 PM
Don't know if this was clarified above, but yes, Return of the Jedi was originally titled Revenge of the Jedi, and there were teaser posters printed and released to that effect. Then they added Ewoks and changed the title. Nice try, Lao Che!
I've only seen one episode
by Mattyboy122
May 28th, 2008
01:21:27 PM
Of this show and it was pretty awful. And what's with Kristin Davis being the only good-looking one on the show? Kinda like how Eva Longoria's the only hottie on Desperate Housewives. Oh well.
SK229...
by AgentArchangel
May 28th, 2008
01:28:11 PM
Yeah, Grey's is pretty bad too. At least in Sex and the City, it isn't a monotone monologue that makes you wish you were deaf. Though, I'm sure somewhere out there, in the deep recesses of the internet, some poor bastard with the misfortune of enjoying both shows has written a crossover combining both shows. One big perfect storm of stupid and shit. I'm gonna go sulk in a corner now.
Ooooookay...
by Archive
May 28th, 2008
01:30:27 PM
...thanks. This is exactly the kind of thing I would have walked into, just to see what millions of women were so whooped up about... I'm that guy who saw "In Her Shoes" because I couldn't figure out why Ridley and Tony Scott were producing Toni Collette vehicles, and loved it. Massawyrm, this review is a kindness. You. Saved. My. Ass.
I can't wait to see this!
by IAmMrMonkey!
May 28th, 2008
01:44:02 PM
Oh no.

I think i've confused this movie with The Dark Knight.

I don't want to see this.

I can't wait to see this!
by IAmMrMonkey!
May 28th, 2008
01:44:05 PM
Oh no.

I think i've confused this movie with The Dark Knight.

I don't want to see this.

Kim Catrall Is The Smoke Monster
by IAmMrMonkey!
May 28th, 2008
01:45:43 PM
And I double posted. Sorry.
"Relationships are like chocolates because blah blah blah"
by IAmMrMonkey!
May 28th, 2008
01:46:40 PM
Oh shut up horse face.
Oh, so this is what happens when you leave Bratz dolls in the s
by christian66
May 28th, 2008
01:51:02 PM
Brilliant. I'm stealing this.
Wow
by quentintarantado
May 28th, 2008
01:59:22 PM
Wyrm is totally the wrong audience for the movie.This entire website probably is. It's the most incongruously funny mismatch between reviewer and movie I've ever read. More! More! More! P.S. And the talkbacks aint too shabby either!(excluding yours truly)
Now that Chris Noth has gotten his final paycheck
by skimn
May 28th, 2008
02:01:21 PM
for this, would someone cast him in a retro detective flick? This guy has got '50s detective noir written all over him.
xevoid
by oisin5199
May 28th, 2008
02:17:32 PM
last time I checked, there were cities in the Midwest, many with thriving gay scenes. They don't call it Boys Town in Chicago for nothin'! Just correcting another generalization. Not everyone in the midwest is a Bible thumping farmer.

And I saw one episode of this show and never wanted to again. The 'insights' of the voiceover were laughable, especially since the writers seemed to think that what they were seeing was all deep and insightful about relationships. Instead, it's just shallow, narcissistic bullshit. I will never see this movie.

Serious question for you Massawyrm
by Vern
May 28th, 2008
02:19:35 PM
When you went in, you were planning to write a review like this, right? I mean I'm not gonna lie, I can understand having a weird fascination going to movies that you know you shouldn't, and of course I watch alot of DTV movies. But most of the time I don't bother to review them because yep, turns out it was crap like you'd expect.

But come on, BRATZ, MEET THE SPARTANS, SEX AND THE CITY... if you honestly went in expecting to like these movies that would mean you were either insane or brain damaged or something. And then you write these gleefully negative reviews acting like you're shocked and surprised that a movie designed for little kids or for women who watch a TV show that you hate turns out to be exactly what you and everyone else already knew it was. Climaxing with this review where you not only go over the top in describing how much you hate it, but you actually describe yourself as BRUTALLY RAPING THE MOVIE, and then proudly take credit for that. "Ha ha ha, I am a rapist. Get it?"

I know you're not just some dumbass so I'm curious what your thoughts are on this. I know you do like some "chick flicks" because I've scratched my head at those reviews too, but I don't buy your pre-emptive brush off of the "why did you go see this?" question. I mean I hate this show too, that's why I wouldn't go see the movie that is made to follow up on that show. Or if I did I wouldn't be surprised when I hated it. (to say nothing of raping it.)

And everyone assumes you were assigned these movies out of some cruelty but it's my impression that you choose which movies to review. So I guess my question is if you know what exactly drives you to go see all this fucking garbage if it is so upsetting to you and drives you to commit unspeakable metaphorical acts.

Loathe the misogynist headline...
by Boromir
May 28th, 2008
02:20:44 PM
..but the review is great. Finally, someone articulates the helpless sense of "What the FUCK?" I experienced when people raved about how great the TV show was.
Vern, Vern, Vern ...
by TheCap
May 28th, 2008
02:29:17 PM
So bitter. So very, very bitter. Have you never taken joy from swatting a hornet's nest with a big stick ? So sad...so very sad. I weep for thee. That is all.
AICN CLASH OF THE TITANS: VERN VS. MASSAWYRM.
by blckmgk13
May 28th, 2008
02:30:44 PM
Trouble in paradise? I bet on massa. Vern has been following the ways of Segal for too long.
Why is this review on this site?
by Rupee88
May 28th, 2008
02:31:49 PM
I don't see the review for the latest romantic comedy of the week, so why is this one featured? Of course it is a stupid movie if you are male and over 16 y/o and have a brain. Thank god a significant number of women will find this film worthless too.
Oh Christ, you people are predictable
by gruntybear
May 28th, 2008
02:36:39 PM
Threatened much by adult women actually taking an interest in sex? For all those "he-men" out there that had a never-ending rockhard boner for rancid shit like "300" and yet would rather slide bamboo shunts under their eyelids than watch four women act out the letters page from some old issue of Cosmpolitan, methinks there's something you aren't admitting - not even to yourself. Thou dost protest - oooooh - a bit too much. Ching-ching, sweeties.
vern's got a good point
by frankenfickle
May 28th, 2008
02:37:52 PM
as usual.
Why review this on AICN? One word...
by AgentArchangel
May 28th, 2008
02:38:45 PM
...schadenfreude. Sometimes, it's fun to be cruel and tear something a new one. ESPECIALLY when it's something that's become a pop culture "sacred cow", such as SATC has been. It helps us all cope with the fact that this film exists. Oh, and as for the "controversial" headline, I thought it was funny because it was concerning the movie. If it were concerning a person, it wouldn't be so cool; but the movie deserves it. Plus, you get a funny image...a man trying to fuck celluloid. It's a win/win situation.
Gruntybear...
by AgentArchangel
May 28th, 2008
02:41:53 PM
It's not that adult women are taking interest in sex, it's the way that they represent those that they are supposedly against...shallow, stupid people who fuck and run at the first sign of commitment. They complain about their male counterparts, because in the end it's not fun being left alone to cool your bed instead of having some post sex discussion about how "fabulous" you both were. It's supposed to be empowering, but it turns out to be an egomaniacal and cheapening experience.
not a clash of the titans
by Vern
May 28th, 2008
02:43:00 PM
More of a My Breakfast With Andre. Or at worst Hell in the Pacific. I'm betting Massa is up for a thoughtful discussion of the topic. I apologize if I put a damper on all the great discussion of horse faces, bitches, faggots, chinks, boners, etc. but I thought this would be worth bringing up also.
How long is it?
by Drunken Rage
May 28th, 2008
02:44:57 PM
SATC Colon Movie Film For Theaters
by The_Fredo
May 28th, 2008
02:48:57 PM
Am I surprised it's God-awful? Absolutely not. The show was shallow, self-centered and pseudo-intelligent (like the characters within it). I can't fault most women that they followed it. Sadly their options tend to be limited on the tube and in theaters.

BTW, I agree with the dap given to The Apartment. Great, great film and funny.

And Entourage is the male SATC. Shallow, self-centered, dumb and pointless. I don't watch either show.
SATCINO!
by bobjustbob
May 28th, 2008
02:52:59 PM
I guess Harry is gonna have to think of a different title for his review.
I am however enjoying
by The_Fredo
May 28th, 2008
02:53:29 PM
all the mud getting slung at the critics. Remaining anger from the Indy bitchfest I think.

Why is AICN reviewing this movie? Because it's the big opening hit that's coming this weekend. Next week I'm sure we'll get reviews of Kung Fu Panda and You Don't Mess with the Zohan.

If you liked the show, then don't let anyone's comments in here (not even Massa's) stop you. Go and enjoy yourself.
"Sluts" in the city
by Tarl_Cabot
May 28th, 2008
02:53:44 PM
I hate chick flicks/shows but the S&TC show was funny as I recall when it had the novelty of being an R rated TV comedy(first couple seasons) but you can't take it seriously.The women have the sexual MO of their gay male writers so it's a waste of time to "hate these women". They're gay men telling stories vicariously through women. Anyway, I did see the final show(friend's wife is a fan and I was forced into it) and they wrapped it up...I see no reason for this especially now that there's no young member of the quartet.
I disagree completely...
by Golitsyn1
May 28th, 2008
02:53:58 PM
she looks more like a goat.
Kristin Davis
by FailureAtTheCave
May 28th, 2008
02:55:29 PM
"There were tables full of shoes, and bags... all the new ones you haven't seen in the stores yet... I mean it was just like Mecca." Really?
That is a goat...
by caruso_stalker217
May 28th, 2008
02:56:09 PM
...that I would bang.
Pure.Fucking.Gold
by Sin86a
May 28th, 2008
02:57:02 PM
Thank God my wife has no desire to see this shit. Her and her sister are big on romantic comedies (much to my dismay) but she's never liked this shit. She actually told her sister to skip it and go see Indy so I don't think I'll have to sit through it ever. Serisouly though Massa... Fucking gold. I wish they would show some of these quotes on the trailer. The number 1 romantic comedy of the summer has the critics saying..."This is what happens when you leave Bratz in the sun for forty years."
For all the things cited as being wrong with the show...
by KanekoFan
May 28th, 2008
02:57:16 PM
...the thing that always really drove me nuts was that all the dialogue seemed to be delivered in exactly the same cadence. I didn't mind the shallow, self-absorbed, mean-spirited lead characters, or the self-congratulatory pseudo-insightful tenor of the writing, because, hey, there's a lot worse on a lot of other shows. But every sentence I ever heard uttered by any character on S&TC came out at exactly the same speed with exactly the same rhythm. It gave me a headache.
Just a Guess.
by YakMalla
May 28th, 2008
02:58:19 PM
Controversial, misogynistic article about a movie totally against AICN's target demographic + black box sniping between contributors = increased site traffic.

Not that I'm complaining or anything. That's entertainment, baby!

Vern
by Massawyrm 1
May 28th, 2008
02:59:21 PM

To be honest, I walk into every movie wanting to like it. I'm a movie lover, pure and simple, which is why you often finding yourself scratching your head at why I even bothered, let alone liked, watching certain movies. I go to them because I know few others in our profession will give them the chance. Too much Pre-hate out there. I'm not gonna say Bratz sucked until I sat through it.

The upside is that if it is particularly awful - it might lend itself to an entertaining review, which people like to see every once in a while. People love blood in the water. But to think that I only pick limping horses to shoot, I would have to point out several of my unpopular positive positions on films other people sniped. Like The Shaggy Dog. Or Just Like Heaven. Or Stick It. I LOVE it when a movie that looks awful turns out to surprise and even delight me.

But honestly, I had ZERO idea how long this was. had I known, I might not have been so brave.

Round 2: Coming UP!
by Flying Spaghetti Monster
May 28th, 2008
03:03:37 PM
The title of this article is not okay
by theclassic
May 28th, 2008
03:06:22 PM
I know the nature of the title is supposed to illustrate how you like the film, but "bleeding and crying"? Not okay. Seriously. Even if the movie is awful and too long, you shouldn't joke about that shit. Not fucking okay, okay? Not okay. I am about as offended as I could possibly be right now.
Massa
by Flying Spaghetti Monster
May 28th, 2008
03:10:36 PM
I'm pretty sure when people see a review up by you they clicky. It's nice to read a review with some heart behind it (Good or bad) instead of the regular regurgitated mess that most people write.
Of course it's "okay"
by KanekoFan
May 28th, 2008
03:11:15 PM
People say offensive things to express their opinions. We all know that Massa is not advocating violent sexual assault. The idea that there's some social obligation not to publicly joke about things that relate to pain and suffering is related to the attitudes that make the victims of violent sexual assault feel too ashamed to come forward and see their attackers brought to justice. Speaking out against this headline is indirectly advocating the silence and shame of rape survivors.
theclassic
by dr_john_zoidberg
May 28th, 2008
03:11:23 PM
...is right. Say what you will about the movie, but references to brutal rape never seem to be in high taste.
Ah, but how does it stack up to The Wizard of Speed & Time?
by uppercanuck
May 28th, 2008
03:14:19 PM
Now that was a classic. Ahem.
At first I thought Massa was the one bleeding...
by rbatty024
May 28th, 2008
03:16:08 PM
on the mattress. I wondered what all the fuss was about. Then I read it again and realized the movie was bleeding on the mattress. I think we need to get Fran Drescher in here to explain to Massa why the title is inappropriate. Funny review, though.

by Flying Spaghetti Monster
May 28th, 2008
03:16:48 PM
horse face
by El Borak
May 28th, 2008
03:18:50 PM
horse face, horse face.
But he's reviewing it for us?
by Flying Spaghetti Monster
May 28th, 2008
03:19:41 PM
Not for him...
I disagree.
by theclassic
May 28th, 2008
03:21:27 PM
If this was some sort of anti-rape activist campaign where violent imagery was meant to provoke a reaction and desire for change, it would deserve more consideration. On a review for the Sex and the City movie, a movie inherently FOR and ABOUT women, referencing violent rape does not get you a reward for "indirect advocation." Rape is not a coy headline.
One of this site's not-so underlying themes
by Boromir
May 28th, 2008
03:22:19 PM
has always been the self-perceived inadequacies of the boys who post here. Sometimes I've found it amusing; other times I wonder how it is that some men manage to maintain the will to live when they're so deep inside this stiflingly inhibitive locker-room-cum-cave environment they create for themselves.

Perhaps the fact that I'm a gay bear makes me just as prone to nausea over lowest-common-denominator male chest thumping behavior as I am over self-absorbed, neurotic, "empowered" women on shows like SatC. Perhaps--but I doubt it. As Vern has pointed out, thoughtful discussion is just more interesting than shallow neuroses-induced idiocy.
For the haters...
by dr_john_zoidberg
May 28th, 2008
03:25:36 PM
You're justified. This movie was only made to appeal to the people that watched nearly every episode of this show. I'm a 27 year old, straight male, and I've seen this series beginning to end. I watched through all the DVD's with my girlfriend over the course of a year or so, and must say that the outside perceptions of this show from people who have either not seen it, or seen only a handfull of episodes, are dead on. What's more, is some of the women that religeously watch this show, agree. My lady and I spent the whole of this series talking shit about the way these whored out female leads choose to live their fictional lives. How trashy they were, how terrible they treat other human beings, the ridiculous amount of money they spend on shit that looks too horrifying to be "fashionable". The payoff of this entire series was the last season. Not because it was "last", but because these women were FINALLY having to deal with some real shit, and every one of them was starting to resemble a vessel that might have a hint of a human spirit within. From breast cancer to barren vaginas, the 6th season starts to pull some emotional punches. Sure, they're cliche and predictable at times, but seeing these wound up whores finally start to simmer down and deal with the fact they're full blown adults works in the long haul. That's where this movie comes in. Anyone who watched that ENTIRE show, including the last 6 or so episodes, is fucking curious as to where things lead next. It's not as if we're proud of having to go and see this movie(god forbid at 2 hours and 30 minutes). The thing is we HAVE to know what happens. Whether we rent it or see it in theatres, the curiosity of whether or not the train wreck was cleaned up is too high. I'm a straight male...and I'm admitting to wanting to see this movie. Sorry, guys.
Not saying the headline advocates anything positive
by KanekoFan
May 28th, 2008
03:30:32 PM
Only that the reaction against it is problematic.
I would rather watch Superman Returns
by teethgnasher
May 28th, 2008
03:37:19 PM
Ha!
This review is utterly pointless.
by Luscious.868
May 28th, 2008
03:38:21 PM
You just wasted several hours of your life. If you don't love the show, there isn't a chance and hell you'll like this so why in the world would you waste your fucking time watching and reviewing it? It's not rocket science. When a movie based on a TV show comes out features the cast members from the show and produced by the people behind the show, chances are about 100% that if you hate the fucking show you'll hate the fucking movie.
Jesus H. Christ on a bicycle man.
What's all the hate on Sarah Jessica Parker?
by dr_john_zoidberg
May 28th, 2008
03:38:46 PM
You keep talking smack like that, and Ferris Bueller's going to give you all the ass whooping of your LIVES. Seriously, though. Everyone here seems so keen on talking shit about her, when I can guarentee that 98% of you couldn't get inside a girl that looks half as decent as her. Come on, how many of you are laying next to some hippo right now reading this from your lap top while watching Firefly reruns in the background? Honestly, show of hands.
oh...
by dr_john_zoidberg
May 28th, 2008
03:41:18 PM
and nothing against Firefly. Good stuff, that. And my lady, isn't a hippo yet. I've been with her 7 years. I'll give it another 7 before things fall apart. Then I get fat, then we can have fat sex. Life is good.
headline
by El Borak
May 28th, 2008
03:42:53 PM
when i come on this site i'm ready for comedy. i didn't read it and think, "omg that's so sick and terrible, lol." i was like, "ha! ha! i'll read this article."
SATC. a curious spectacle
by Kizeesh
May 28th, 2008
03:47:17 PM
It's an interesting take on vapid dumb middle aged women. I didn't really like it, but then again I like plot. It was vapid, dumb, self-satisfying, sexist and hypocritical.

Much like the women who it portrayed, and a lot of the ones who watched it undoubtedly saw much of that in themselves.

Headline "humor"
by theclassic
May 28th, 2008
03:49:02 PM
Since when is rape funny?
Rape isn't funny, however
by KanekoFan
May 28th, 2008
03:50:28 PM
using horrible imagery to make a ludicrously exaggerated point about something that doesn't merit the comparison IS funny.
theclassic
by Flying Spaghetti Monster
May 28th, 2008
03:52:12 PM
rape is funny when you are talking about a movie..not a person
yah, what KanekoFan said
by Flying Spaghetti Monster
May 28th, 2008
03:53:02 PM
Conspiracy,
by Novaman5000
May 28th, 2008
03:54:08 PM
There's nothing threatening about them, and yet everyone on this talkback is so defensive, as if you have to attack the show to prove you're a big man.

And I haven't seen a ton of episodes, but I have seen enough to know that they're no more sexually promiscuous than alot of tv characters. They have alot of sex, but the only one is who fucking people off the street is Kim Catrall's character. Kristin Davis' is the epitome of the prude. I actually admire how upfront the show is about sex, wish more shows had the figurative balls to follow suit. I found the show to be fairly entertaining, if shallow. It is not on my top 20 list of favorite shows or anything.

As for them being whores, I don't think i need to point out the obvious double standard here. Men can have casual sex till the cows come home and it's fine, but when women do it, they're branded sluts? or cougars? How many single, 40-year-old men would turn down sex with a good looking woman 10 years younger than him? Not many.

I just don't get the hate for something so innocuous. Especially when there is so much love on this site for its male counterpart, Entourage.

Rape is funny
by Kizeesh
May 28th, 2008
03:54:35 PM
But only if you're raping a clown.
KanekoFan, what are you a post-structualist?
by rbatty024
May 28th, 2008
03:54:59 PM
Must be the end times...
by REDD
May 28th, 2008
03:58:23 PM
Otherwise we would have a "It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia" movie. I want my "Fatty McGoo Vs. The Aluminum Monster" in IMAX!
Oh, and the title of the article is funny.
by Novaman5000
May 28th, 2008
03:58:26 PM
What? it is.
Actually, by and large
by KanekoFan
May 28th, 2008
03:58:32 PM
post-structuralists generally reject classification as such; in a sense, if I say that I am one, I'll fail to be one.
Oh if only Sean Connery would voiceover the commercial
by skimn
May 28th, 2008
03:59:39 PM
"Thish Shummer the one film to shee is Shex And The SHITTY!"
To all da Haters
by Rufferto
May 28th, 2008
04:21:36 PM
The movie is second place despite you geeks and yur bitching. Money= Good!

.........

YES I'm being sarcastic. Even trying to sound like an AIC apologist makes me feel a little sick inside. :(

Misogyny - so much more fun than getting laid!
by odessa21
May 28th, 2008
04:22:17 PM
The title of this article is physically repugnant to me, but I have to admit it's completely appropriate for its blatantly mysogynistic content. I have no idea why anyone would want to go see a movie based on a show they never liked, but that's certainly no reason to take it out an ALL women. Cuz hey, guess what?? If you hate us, we'll hate you back. We're kinda funny like that!
girl wants me to see this
by turketron
May 28th, 2008
04:24:22 PM
girl i'm seeing at the moment mentioned wanting me to see this with her. I lauged and laughed. She also wanted to see that fucking Ashton Kutcher movie that came out. No fucking way. We did go see Forgetting Sarah Marshall, which was pretty damn funny though. But seriously... FUCK this movie. 2.5 hours? You'll be able to smell hell from there.
Odessa21
by Kizeesh
May 28th, 2008
04:30:23 PM
What you never realised that Sex and the City is one of the most unashamedly sexist shows ever made? That it's about a bunch of vapid idiots who are psychologically incapable of forming coherent adult relationships with members of the opposite sex, and that it shows all men as either morons, sex-fiends, or emotional cripples while villifying them at the same time as heroising the lead 4 women, who ultimately are as bad, if not worse than any of them? Maybe you missed that amidst the tampon throwing and shoes.
your girlfriends want to see this
by Rufferto
May 28th, 2008
04:30:41 PM
I'm sorry. Sure not all women, but that's the only explanation for it or anything like it making any money at all.
NOT SINCE 1979...
by DucksNRoses
May 28th, 2008
04:35:46 PM
...Have I had to sit through a movie like Massa describes here. Tess (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0 080009/) was excruciating
I'd still rather sit through this
by JackinNYC
May 28th, 2008
04:44:31 PM
Than see Speed Racer again. At least there is some eye candy, with all the babes in the audience!
REVENGE OF HORSEFACE
by turketron
May 28th, 2008
04:46:06 PM
NEVER GO BACK TO HORSEFACE LAKE
by turketron
May 28th, 2008
04:46:24 PM
THE HORSEFACE PROPHECIES
by turketron
May 28th, 2008
04:46:54 PM
CITY FUCKERS 2: THE LEGEND OF HORSEFACE'S GOLD
by turketron
May 28th, 2008
04:47:58 PM
ok, i'm done
by turketron
May 28th, 2008
04:48:39 PM
YOU DON'T MESS WITH THE HORSEFACE
by turketron
May 28th, 2008
04:49:39 PM
haha, no i'm not
MEAT THE HORSEFACE
by turketron
May 28th, 2008
04:50:23 PM
lulz... i can't stop
JackinNYC...you have a point...
by conspiracy
May 28th, 2008
04:59:39 PM
Here is your choice... Get some ear plugs...Spend $12 and suffer through this extended tv show too hook up in the lobby with one of the Samantha worshipping slits milling about... Or... ...Head over the the closest tart laden bar...amusingly they usually seem to congregate at some half assed chain joint like Cheesecake Factory or Elephant Bar, since they can't really afford to booze at the "IN" places... and buy her a Cosmo. Either way your getting laid.
Novaman5000...it actually isn't the promiscuity
by conspiracy
May 28th, 2008
05:07:24 PM
but rather the vile way these characters, and the real life spawn they exemplified, behave. There are PLENTY of sexually active women a guy can actually respect and treat with dignity, intelligent, down to earth gals they simply like to have some fun are great... ...but cosmo swilling, overly materialistic, divaish whores on Prada hoofs slits like the ones on this show aren't them.
SEX AND THE CITY OF CORUSCANT...EPISODE 1.9
by Robo-Obi
May 28th, 2008
05:08:02 PM
I FEAR THE WORST...
Is it just me...
by conspiracy
May 28th, 2008
05:09:52 PM
or does anyone else get the feeling Ferris is taking a strap fueled horse fucking now and then?
LOL conspiracy
by JackinNYC
May 28th, 2008
05:11:52 PM
You nailed my point exactly...not the only nailing I will be doing after the screening. Something poor Ghost of Señor Nixon will never understand. Not sure why he's attacking me, but he's probably only had the company of Inflatable dates all his sad life so I guess he has my sympathy.
Seriously, change that fucking headline.
by Kurutteru Yatsu
May 28th, 2008
05:14:14 PM
Instead of the wholly unnecessary rape "joke" you could go for something more truthful, like "Come shit on the SATC movie that none of you were going to see in the first place, lulz!" And bonus, some asshole's going to be screaming about "bitch ass chink faggots" in all caps. But then maybe you thought that was funny too.
SEX AND THE CITY OF AIDS... EPISODE 2.3
by Robo-Obi
May 28th, 2008
05:17:35 PM
THAT GIRL IS POISON......
INDIANA JONES AND THE KINGDOM OF CARRIES SKULL...
by Robo-Obi
May 28th, 2008
05:19:20 PM
YOU CALL HIM DR. JONES DOLL!!
Kurutteru Yatsu
by Kizeesh
May 28th, 2008
05:19:46 PM
Tar everyone with the same brush much.

Also lay off the title, it's perfectly in keeping with his style. There's a good chance that he might have liked SATC if it was a good film. Now go buy yourself some pretty shoes and let us guys talk, ok toots?

INDIANA JONES AND THE CONDOM OF DOOM...
by Robo-Obi
May 28th, 2008
05:22:14 PM
KEEP THE GIRL I'LL GET ANOTHER...
Wow, stop this gay talk
by infinite_zero00
May 28th, 2008
05:25:30 PM
I think at least 10% of these posts contain some reference to how the characters all act like gay men. I bet less than 1% of you have a gay friend, or know a gay person at all. Not all gay people are materialistic whores. Maybe if you guys would get out of your caves and talk to some people you'd realize that. I for one am a gay person, and I'm just as normal as any of you; I don't spend $400 on shoes, or screw every guy I can get.
HORNY WHITE BITCHES LOOKING TO GET DICKED DOWN...
by Robo-Obi
May 28th, 2008
05:25:57 PM
AKA SEX AND THE CITY...
SEX AND THE SAUCERMEN FROM MARS CITY
by Robo-Obi
May 28th, 2008
05:28:34 PM
INDY 5 SON!!!
SOMEONE SHITS THEMSELF?!?
by eoneon
May 28th, 2008
05:28:52 PM
AWESOME I'M THERE JUST FOR THAT! ANY CHICK FLICK W SCAT HUMOR IS A OK WITH ME! BRING ON THE PUSSY AND QUEEF JOKES :)
KIM CATTRAL AND THE WRINKLED COOCHIE...
by Robo-Obi
May 28th, 2008
05:30:17 PM
COMING TO SHOWTIME!
ORAL SEX AND THE CITY...
by Robo-Obi
May 28th, 2008
05:32:10 PM
THAT MOVIE SUCKED!
tasteless title
by Ray Gamma
May 28th, 2008
05:42:22 PM
.....
More Barbie Doll pink than any human can stand
by Utamoh
May 28th, 2008
05:57:45 PM
I just don't get how the women of Sex and the City are supposed to so modern and liberated when half of it comes across as a grown-up ad for Barbie and the accessories. If they could drop the fluorescent pink and tacky colors, stop talking so much, maybe I'd watch. A show about sex isn't supposed to be boring
Vern and Massawyrm 1
by starscream1
May 28th, 2008
05:58:56 PM
I can count on one hand the number of times I've commented in the last two years (although I check the board everyday)Vern - THANK YOU for a direct post that asked the exact question I wanted to ask Massawyrm! I appreciate SaTC but, it was the last movie that I'd expect to see a review of here. Massawyrm, I know you like movies, even "chick flicks" and all that BS but, didn't you even think for a second how your "expected" and humorous review of SaTC would bring out the underbelly of straight male geekness at it's worst? The headline of your post doesn't offend me because it's not a personal attack on any one person but, the geek squad is launching personal and horrendous attacks against the actresses... specifically SJP. It's not cool. I doubt there is a website run by chicks exploiting how "long in the tooth" and utterly unrealistic Harrison Ford is as Indy. I usually like your reviews but this one was not cool Dude.
Those of you offended by the title...
by Blue_Demon
May 28th, 2008
06:01:14 PM
of the review are hysterics. Think of all the vitriol hurled back and forth on this site that you've waded through and then you'll realize that you saw the title, and just decided to bitch about something. No doubt you have been offended before over something real. But this title didn't do it. You're just in PC overdrive and this is the wrong place to be stuck in that mode.
Thank god I don't have to see this...
by ckane123
May 28th, 2008
06:09:43 PM
My wife watches Lost, Galactica, CSI, The Office and Doctor Who. She was never the least bit interested in this show.
God, I love my wife.
Jesus
by Kizeesh
May 28th, 2008
06:31:07 PM
Most of you need to man up and stop getting so pissy over a few comments and a chauvanistic review of a crass chick flick
Massawyrm is worse than my father
by merricks14yearoldson
May 28th, 2008
06:31:48 PM
It'd be interesting to read Moriarty's analysis of the SATC film
by BDuncan
May 28th, 2008
06:41:26 PM
Granted most of AICN's mostly male readers aren't the SATC film's target audience and that it probably is 30 minutes too long, it'd still be fairly interesting to read both Harry and Mori's separate analysis of it, as Mori has mentioned several times what a huge chick flick genre fan his wife is.
Umm...
by Marvinatmiddleage
May 28th, 2008
06:49:25 PM
Now, I didn't read every one of the above posts but, just in case no one has said it yet: "So, it's a movie about three hookers and their mom?"
148 minutes IS NOT TWO AN A HALF HOURS FUCK YOU
by Proman1984
May 28th, 2008
06:59:54 PM
This movie will own.
PLEASE DONT MAKE DEALS WITH YOUR GIRLS
by Phategod2
May 28th, 2008
07:15:58 PM
Fellas I went to see CON:PC monday and in the row was this bored girlfriend with her man and half way though the movie this bitch starts texting people I was five minutes away from punching this skank in the top of her head. Don't drag a chick to a movie you know she won't like, she could wind up getting you knocked out.
Werewolf Ass Fuck
by Kloipy
May 28th, 2008
07:27:46 PM
that's all I have to say
Proman1984
by Flying Spaghetti Monster
May 28th, 2008
07:52:19 PM
you sir are funny
As Kevin of the Kevin and Bean show said today...
by Pennsy
May 28th, 2008
08:01:26 PM
"Is there any theme to a movie or TV show that says 'MEN, STAY AWAY!' more than Sex and the City?"
YakMalla
by pr0g2west
May 28th, 2008
08:08:15 PM
They were cgi prarie dogs, not gophers. Its good to see people bitching about a different movie other than KOTCS for a change.
"Attractive only to gay men and other women?"
by s00p3rm4n
May 28th, 2008
08:11:15 PM
Yes, because we're so much less discerning, and so much easier to please. Because we're softer and less tough. Because we're stupid. Don't insult my intelligence and taste offhand, Massa. This movie looks insulting enough.
THE MAN SHOW: THE MOVIE
by TheNorthlander
May 28th, 2008
08:44:00 PM
Give me two and a half hours of that.
I bet all four ladies...
by mrfan
May 28th, 2008
09:02:53 PM
end up in a fridge to escape a building that is about to be blown up. Sounds like I will be watching this.
okay, thats just wrong
by jax9999
May 28th, 2008
09:28:04 PM
you didn't like the series, so why exactly did you see the movie? the movie was supposed to be a big love letter to the fans of the show. I imagine the experience was the same as taking one of the stereotypical fans of the show and sticking them in the middle of blade runner. At best they are lost, and at most they are pissed off.
PWNED by Vern
by Fleet
May 28th, 2008
09:29:07 PM
Totally have to agree with him 100%...
how long was the movie?
by Jubba
May 28th, 2008
09:29:32 PM
i think i missed that...
...and PS
by Fleet
May 28th, 2008
09:31:24 PM
It's absolutely no wonder this talkback has turned into what it has - It's the perfect opportunity for all you fucking wankers to compare dick sizes and get all up trash talk'n women and homosexuals... Oh that's big... real big of you.
"So it's about three hookers and their mom?" - Brian, FAMILY GUY
by LaserPants
May 28th, 2008
09:36:35 PM
Brian, the talking dog from Family Guy, trying to figure out what the appeal of Sex In The City is after his gay relative gets him to try and watch it.
I liked Episode 1.
by Cotton McKnight
May 28th, 2008
09:36:42 PM
So shut the hell up. Even if you were to call it a bad movie (which I don't), you have to rate these things on how many redeeming qualities they have. Star Wars fans were rewarded with Darth Maul, a double bladed lightsaber, a kick ass fight scene. You know, things like that. But this... what the hell is there?
Massawrym is one of my favorite AICN reviewers
by Rupee88
May 28th, 2008
09:46:51 PM
I read the first few paragraphs of this one and though it was funny, but didn't care about the details. I still think this is a non-genre film and really doesn't need to be mentioned on this site, but I suppose the case that it will do great at the box office and have high visibility could be made as to why Massa bothered to review it. And I love the headline....I'm sure it is the "feminist" men with little testosterone who have a problem with it.
pr0g2west/Gopher Controvesy
by YakMalla
May 28th, 2008
09:47:31 PM
I concede your point. When I saw the animal, I mistook it for a gopher of the Sciuridaes family (Richardson's Ground Squirrel being the best known variety) - a foolish mistake, considering the range of Richardson's Ground Squirrel barely extends south of the high plains region of North America. Also, the family Geomyidae is obviously more associated with "true" gophers, especially in popular culture, from which IJ&TKOTCS surely cannot be exempted.

I think this should pretty well settle the S&TC debate.

for "effeminate" gay men
by Frizzurd
May 28th, 2008
09:52:36 PM
Us average gay men never get noticed. Its the minority within a minority of fems that have control over all the pride bullshit and thus make it activism a joke only fueling more stereotypes.
Frizzurd...
by Fleet
May 28th, 2008
09:59:14 PM
...Couldn't have said it better myself.
INDIANA JONES AND THE SEX AND THE CITY
by Johnno
May 28th, 2008
10:06:40 PM
Someone should take a whip to those horsey bitches!
I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS MORE THAN I WAS KOTCS
by BringingSexyBack
May 28th, 2008
10:22:49 PM
I still think Aidan should've been The One, but Mr. Big ain't too shabby.
this or spice world?
by El Borak
May 28th, 2008
10:26:11 PM
if you had to watch one?
The Real question is, why have you seen...
by slicer
May 28th, 2008
10:33:03 PM
the BRATZ movie?!?! Not only did you see it, but you remembered it enough to compare it to other movies! Something is very wrong with you!
Dear God, what have I got myself into
by jingle_balls
May 28th, 2008
10:44:00 PM
Upon agreeing to see this movie with the missus, I was clinging onto the hope that it would be a 1 hour 30 minute type of thing like the South Park movie / Simpsons MOvie. But over 2 and a half hours. Mental note - bring IPod and/or WMD. Fingers crossed it goes to IMAX so Horseface is plastered to EPIC proportions.
I would only see this....
by seniorspeilbergio
May 28th, 2008
10:48:23 PM
If in the first five minutes Julianne Moore, Jennifer Connely and Judie Dench show up and kick the shit out of these annoying, self absorbed bitches. Call me crazy but I like female actors who can play characters that are smart, capable and fucking likeable!
Wait, so how long was it?
by YouAreAllMyBastardChildren
May 28th, 2008
11:22:30 PM
300 posts? You've gotta be fuckin kidding me!
Gotta love Massawyrm reviews!
by br1947
May 28th, 2008
11:23:04 PM
Funniest damn things on the site! Never would have clicked a SATC review unless it was Massa writing it. Harry should really force Massawyrm to view one really bad movie a week just for the pure entertainment value of the review alone! Massawyrm, congratualtions, you survived a 2 and a half hour tampon commercial.
AWWW SHIIIITTT
by thebearovingian
May 28th, 2008
11:28:04 PM
There goes my movie-going summer 2008 into the shitter. Now only The Dark Knight can salvage it. Sex and the City needs a reboot STAT!
You know...
by seniorspeilbergio
May 28th, 2008
11:29:49 PM
All this movie makes me think about is all the other great women in film I love to see in almost anything. Instead of pointing out how much I can't stand these 4 actors, I think we should throw the all the other ladies in film some props. You know, those women who aren't on the cover of every fashion magazine and on every talk show but the ones when you see she's in a certain movie you think "hell yeah, she's solid. She actually looks like a real woman and not some glammed up bulemic model and she always delivers the goods, acting-wise." I'll start off with a few: Alfre Woodard, Julliette Binoche, Lili Taylor, Gillian Anderson, Joan Allen, Cate Blanchette. And how about those lady actors you wish they would bring back like Julia Ormond, Debra Winger, Melinda Dillan (still my favorite Spielberg mom). Fuck these S&TC hoes. I like real women in my movies.
film shoulda had Queen Latiffa in it
by Groothewarrior
May 29th, 2008
12:41:05 AM
Hollywood has been shoving her fat ape face in a movie every three months shes just as ugly as horse faced SJP
That review sucked!
by Motoko Kusanagi
May 29th, 2008
01:14:29 AM
I still don't know how long that movie is! :-D

Jokes aside, that was one of the funniest things I've read here in a looong time! Thanks, Massa!

As for the past twenty four hours...
by spectrebeeyatch
May 29th, 2008
02:01:06 AM
This story has the most posts. Not Hulk... Sex and the City and I'm not helping because adding one more, but I just wanted to note that on this site Sex and the City for now is number one in posts haha.
This talkback needs to be sent to one of those ranches
by Vern
May 29th, 2008
02:19:36 AM
that Montel Williams and Sally Jesse Raphael used to send troubled teens to for boot camp. I never believed in them before but you fuckers have opened my eyes.

Earlier I asked Massa about why he wrote this, and I accept his answer, but in retrospect that's inside baseball film criticism business. I kind of feel like an asshole for not being more harsh about the woman-hating bullshit going on here which is the issue that really bothers me. I know I'll get hell for this but so be it. Have you ever had a buddy or a relative who embarrasses you in public, they get way too drunk and pick fights for no reason or they start being an asshole to your waitress or your uncle starts talking about "colored people" or some shit? And it's your uncle but you feel like you gotta say something?

Ain't It Cool really is my belligerently drunk buddy or racist uncle. I've been through alot with Ain't It Cool. I've written here and talkbacked here for years, and never got a dime for it. But I've tried writing on film.com, nerve.com, cracked.com and others, all paid (or promised to) and the commenters (if any) weren't as mean to me. But it wasn't the same. I didn't like the format as much or didn't get as much freedom and I missed mixing it up with everybody here. Nowhere else could I get challenged by Dave the Demon or ask WalterB questions or argue with Thunderballs or somebody. In interviews and emails sometimes people ask why I write for Ain't It Cool, say we are ruining film criticism or literacy or some shit. On Chud and Dave Poland's thing they talk shit about this place all the time. One time I saw a critic I really admire, Jim Emerson, talk about us like we were beneath contempt. (In fact I think that was the term he used.) I see Empire and Total Film making derogatory remarks about talkbackers in their bullshit reviews of AVP dash R. And all of these things piss me off. I always stand up for The Ain't It Cool even if I don't always like the writing or fit in here or if I get fed up with some of the attitudes. We're family.

I believe we're cousins or half brothers or something so I gotta scold you when you track dog shit onto my living room carpet. This whole episode dishonors our family.

Like some of you I know and speak to actual real life women, and have ended up seeing parts of that show. I hate it too. I can't abide by a sympathetic portrayal of buying $600 shoes, and don't get why women who are as poor as me relate to these characters' troubles vacationing in the Hamptons.

But if we agree that these characters or this show is vapid and superficial and has poor values then what the fuck is this talkback about? How are you fuckers going off on Sarah Jessica Parker's "horse face" not as bad as or worse than those characters? How do you write this shit about how to get laid, about who's "fuckable," about cumming, raping, bitches, skanks, sluts, whores, slits, faggots, chinks, etc. and still have the delusion that you are better than those characters? Do you have any clue that you're even a worse and more pathetic stereotype of your gender than the women on that show? And without the excuse of being fictional?

I know Massawyrm didn't ask for that shit but he sort of started it with that headline. And don't give me that "politically incorrect" shit. Just because you're being politically incorrect doesn't mean you're not being a fucking asshole. Maybe we should start doing headlines about lynching blacks and burning Jews in Auschwitz and about who we think should get AIDS. That would be pretty fuckin edgy. It would be censorship NOT to be a douchebag all the time and write stupid shit, wouldn't it? What good is freedom of speech if you don't use it to be sexist, racist, homophobic and cruel and then call people pussies for pointing out that you're a dickhead? It's what the founding fathers demanded! Ben Franklin especially loved a good light-hearted "crying, bleeding rape victim" metaphor. I don't know why they didn't cover that in National Treasure 2 but it's true.

Anyway man, I noticed some of you trying to turn the thing around to an actual discussion of why you don't like the show, or innocently singing the pussywhipped blues, or at least making an amusing smartass comment here or there, so I appreciate that. I know there are good people here and don't mean to lash out at everybody. But I worry this place is threatening to really become the pathetic shithole all those pricks say it is. I think we're better than that so I encourage everybody to try harder and for people who have something intelligent to say to chime in instead of saying, "ah, fuck it, what's the point?" like we do too often.

All right, WHO'S WITH ME? TONIGHT WE DINE IN HELL! SAY HELLO TO MY LITTLE FRIEND etc.

Hey, guys, I just got here...what's goin' on?
by Brians Life
May 29th, 2008
02:37:49 AM
Yikes! Every talkbacks got morons, that doesn't mean you can hurt my eyes with that black post to tell me.

That said, two things:

Who the hell is Vern? And...

I'm up for givin' Miley Cirus AIDS.
Vern is like the uncle who distributes nuggets of wisdom
by caruso_stalker217
May 29th, 2008
02:43:43 AM
And now I feel guilty about saying that Sarah Jessica Parker is "a goat I'd bang." That was just kind of my smart-ass way of saying I don't think she's ugly. Still, it was a bit insensitive.

Thank you, Uncle Vern.

Hey Vern, who the fuck cares about what...
by Motoko Kusanagi
May 29th, 2008
02:47:53 AM
...CHUD, Empire, Jim Emerson, Dave Poland or TotalFilm think about us? Fuck them! Let them bitch about AICN. Who gives a damn? We don't!

We AICN TBers are like a family and so we go through good times and bad times. This may be more a bad time but what the hell.

What I'm trying to say is, I LOVE YOU ALL GUYS! AICN ROCKS! YIPPIE-KI-YAY MOFOS!!!

And "I love you all" includes even YOU Vern. :-D
by Motoko Kusanagi
May 29th, 2008
02:49:01 AM
Just in case...
yikes
by menstrual_blitz
May 29th, 2008
02:54:57 AM
that headline is fucking awful. shit movie, shit show, but oh to watch the misogyny in action...
Vern, Please GROW UP.
by TheGhostWhoLurks
May 29th, 2008
03:00:41 AM
This movie is pure CRAP, and the reason there are so many "negative" posts regarding it is simply because Massa's review was SPOT ON, not only on the film's content, but who it appeals to.

The ONLY people at my workplace who are excited about this movie and won't shut up about it are a gay guy I work with and two of his female friends.

Your politically-correct, "oh-so-sensitive" and overly- longwinded whining over the "misogyny" you claim to see in this talkback really comes off as not only mealy-mouthed pandering to some imaginary PC entity, but pure BS, considering that you've seen (and contributed to) FAR worse than this EVERYDAY for years, working for AICN.

So, please... spare us your self-righteous "shock" and stop wasting all of our time with your crocodile tears of "sensitivity".

Hey, Abominable Snowcone
by Droogie Alex
May 29th, 2008
03:02:01 AM
If you're going to claim "FIRST", you have to do it with conviction. You can't just ease into it and hope you made it, you gotta own it. "mea causa est mea veritas"
I see Verns point....
by seniorspeilbergio
May 29th, 2008
03:06:19 AM
Yes I agree I have a problem with the "values" that show represents and I know that how women are portrayed in film is varied and I was trying to remind everyone of that but I guess no one cared. There seems to be a lot more mean spirited talkbacks here lately. I was hoping more people would be interested in discussing the flip side of this particular coin but no luck. The characters on that show and the actors who so lovingly give them life scare me and my girlfriend as well which is why i thought now would be a good time to remind us all of the women in film that make me feel just the opposite. But I guess it's all about the ying and the yang is just too boring for everyone to talk about. Too bad. Say what you will but Vern has a point about the venom in these talkbacks, especially this one.
Vern
by Mr. Nice Gaius
May 29th, 2008
03:09:47 AM
Well said. Yours is an interesting observation; one that's been noted and discussed before by a few fellow Talkbackers. Unfortunately, I think there is only one real way to "clean up" the Talkbacks and help focus them into more intelligent discourse (one that's not mocked by other websites on a routine basis). And that would be an increase in board moderation.

There really is nothing like AICN Talkback. It is the Outback of the Internet. So, I find it strange to think that the TBs have somehow overshadowed the efforts of the site's editors and contributors. But I'm not really surprised when I consider the various rogues and scoundrels that we as a messageboard community are sometimes left to police on our own.

Anyway, I never would have commented here as I have no interest in the SEX IN THE CITY film. However, I saw your big ass post and thought it deserved a tip o' the hat. Cheers.

Dear Mr Vern
by Kizeesh
May 29th, 2008
03:13:56 AM
I have previously enjoyed your product on an almost daily bases, however in ligh of current events I am unable to find the comedic element in your latest Tlakback post and as a result needed to have a retarded friend describe it to me, in order that I might fully enjoy your meaning.

Please return normal service so that I may continue to keep a narrow-minded view of reality in keeping with what George Bush tells me.

Many Thanks

Gunther P. Olaffson

And the Moderator Brown-Nosing begins...
by TheGhostWhoLurks
May 29th, 2008
03:16:15 AM
Sheesh... I've gotta to to bed before I vomit. :P
Sex and the City for me. No-Sex and the City for you.
by psifire
May 29th, 2008
03:38:50 AM
A straight man giving a chick-flick a scathing review...how surprising. Stick to National Lampoon's and Rambo. Now for a spoiler-free review from an actaul fan of the series. (which actually begs the question, why watch the movie when you weren't even a fan of the series in the first place? Are you a masochist?) I was fortunate enough to have been invited to the premiere of "Sex and the City-The Movie". Being a HUGE fan of the series, the free ticket was like manna from heaven. I couldn't hide my anticipation. And that anticipation was not for naught. Don't worry; this review is absolutely spoiler -free. It is for those die-hard fans that are worried about how the movie lives up to the success of the series. And to those fans, I say you can finally heave a sigh of relief because the movie does not suck at all. In fact, to use Samantha's words - IT IS FABULOUS! Me really likey!! Now, for those who aren't fans of the series (meaning the men, you'll probably hate it. But then again, the movie wasn't made for you guys. It takes a fan of the series to have a deeper appreciation of this movie, otherwise percieved by some to be brainless, cliche, chick-flick that will waste 2 hours and 30 mins of your life. The movie has all the elements of the TV Series that we all love and missed. The sardonic wit, the it-feels-good-to-be-in-love moments, the bonds of friendship between our four lead girls, the sense of fun and abandon, the turning-the-table-on-men, the fashion, New York City, and of course the sex - -albeit toned down just a teensy-weensy bit. And I get that, because these girls are no longer 35 year-olds, they are now more mature and are taking their lives, loves, and relationships to the next level. It was also nice to see familiar faces;all major and key players in the series that had a significant role in Carrie, Miranda, Charlotte, and Samantha's lives join them on-screen. Before watching the movie, I was able to read some lukewarm reviews about the film and that got me down a bit, but after seeing the film for myself I understood why these critics gave such a critique - -they weren't fans of the series. Some thought the movie was too long, but for us fans the 2 hours and 30 minutes were enough if not short. It's because watching the movie was like spending time with old friends you haven't seen for the longest time. I remember that when I tuned in regularly during the show's run, after each episode, I recall thinking that I wanted to spend more time with these girls. Every episode was not enough. Watching the show was like hanging out with real friends. And that's how I really saw and felt for Carrie, Miranda, Samantha, and Charlotte. So after a few years of not seeing them and hearing from them, I expected this movie to serve as some sort of a reunion. For us to get re-acquainted, get an update on what’s been going on with their lives, and to hang out with the girls we’ve grown to love. And the movie does not disappoint. It’s everything you want and wished for an SATC movie to be. If you were a follower of the series. If you're not, go watch another flick. Because chances are,you'd be another Massawyrm. So to all SATC fans, see you at the theatres. Because I am definitely going to see this movie again to hang out, laugh with, cry with, and have fun with our girls and our friends Carrie, Miranda, Charlotte, and Samantha. It is because life rarely lives up to our fantasies, and we need friendships that are real or reel to get us through it all.
Vern I love ya but...
by blckmgk13
May 29th, 2008
03:52:11 AM
...you are asking to clean up the internet. Half the folks here probably frequent 4chan and other bottom of the barrel type websites. AICN isn't better. Taking it out on Massawyrm who, and let's be honest here, used a colorful way of describing the film in a way that would have been acceptable if Harry himself wrote it, but because he's either at the same level as you or below you feel you can criticize him (and I am just being honest, discussion or not, you commented to chastize him) which is hypocritical unless you start at the top and work down. I think nearly every single person here saw the humour in the article and realize Massa isn't propagating stereotypes and making the jump to auschwitz is a little bit of a stretch. This fucken world of today has pandered to so many sensitive sensibilities that good people get caught in between of each radical end of the spectrum, which in turn only makes them into a target. Basically, don't be criticizing Massawyrm when Harry delights, DELIGHTS in using much more mysogynistic metaphors and making most of the general public lose their lunches. I am not saying Harry is wrong for the way he writes, it's his website for crying outloud, but don't act like this site is a fucking church amongst a bunch of brothels. I mean this in the most respect Vern as I enjoy your reviews just as much as I do Massawyrms, but I do feel that you unfairly targeted him for what is obviously a much bigger issue for you elsewhere in management.
Thank the lord
by Lost Jarv
May 29th, 2008
04:37:16 AM
The good MRs Jarv fucking despises this show, so I'm not seeing it.

I pity you all that may have to.

Clarke
by Lost Jarv
May 29th, 2008
04:41:21 AM
You got fucked. Seriously.

Better find things to add to it.

I took a hit with the Devil Wears Prada, but luckily read the book first so managed to worm out of it.

Great, great post Vern
by sHapesHiftinLizard
May 29th, 2008
04:53:10 AM
I don't post here much but read all the time, as well as your own websight. I'm usually on a uk based sfi fi forum, someone started a AICN thread there and I was the only one defending it, and the talkbacks, as there are some damn interesting ones(yeah, i was there reading all the Demon Dave stuff before it got deleted, best night ever on these boards, legendary.) I'd like to see a better standard from those intelligent enough to know(and write)better. Keep up the good work Vern , you're the best film reviewer I've ever read.
Props to Kloipy- funniest post in the history of AICN
by Lost Jarv
May 29th, 2008
05:06:32 AM
I give you the Werewolf Ass Fuck:

"The SATC girls are the type of girls, that are older and you know you can fuck. So you take them home, do the nastiest shit possible that you can think of to do to them, then laugh about it with your buddies the next day. That's what the show would be like if they did it from the guys perspective. "Dude, last night I was fucking doing this old chick like all doggy style, and my buddy was hiding in the closet. So I pulled out, and he jumped in and shoved it in her ass. Then he put on this Werewolf mask he has, and she's got like no idea he's there, so he spits on her back, pulls out, she turns around, screams and he spooges all in her stupid face. Werewolf Ass Fuck. Classic. That bitch was dumb."

psifire- You TRIFFID
by Lost Jarv
May 29th, 2008
05:29:43 AM
You fucking plant. And worse than that, you are the tumbleweed of marketing whores.

You are never, ever going to generate positive buzz for this here, so why waste the time?

Let me count the ways you are a fucking plant:

1) New ID. Always a giveaway.

2)"I was fortunate enough to have been invited to the premiere of "Sex and the City-The Movie". Being a HUGE fan of the series, the free ticket was like manna from heaven. I couldn't hide my anticipation. And that anticipation was not for naught." Revolting. Loathsome. Vile. No-one writes like that other than puff-writers preparing their press kit. (I used to do it, before you say anything)- and nobody posts on the internet like that. Classic Plant Speak

3)"The sardonic wit, the it-feels-good-to-be-in-love moments, the bonds of friendship between our four lead girls, the sense of fun and abandon, the turning-the-table-on-men, the fashion, New York City, and of course the sex - -albeit toned down just a teensy-weensy bit."- Did you cull that from the TV guide? and why tell us it is toned done in such a pretend cot fashion? Why is it toned down anyway? Sorry, digression.

4)"Some thought the movie was too long, but for us fans the 2 hours and 30 minutes were enough if not short" Classic attempt to spin a negative into a positive. BTW 2 hours 28 minutes is far too long for a chick-fick. It is too long for most things.

5)"So to all SATC fans, see you at the theatres. Because I am definitely going to see this movie again to hang out, laugh with, cry with, and have fun with our girls and our friends Carrie, Miranda, Charlotte, and Samantha" Emphasise the positives. That's very good. But down turn it into some sort of "experience". Nobody is going to fall for that. How the fuck are they "our girls" anyway?

6)"It is because life rarely lives up to our fantasies, and we need friendships that are real or reel to get us through it all."- I'm actually lost for words by this. The most nauseating piece of PR prostitution I think I've ever seen here.

7)No Spoilers. Plants never spoil

8)No actual information about the film. Not a single word mentioned about plot points, performances, direction, score, script etc. Your review is a sales sheet puff piece, and worth only contempt.

What gets me is that most people here with significant others (gay or straight) are probably going to have to see this. They have accepted it and there is a sort of grim gallows humour among the condemned. Don't reply to this post, it's a waste of your time and a waste of mine.

I wish I'd read Vern's post before reposting the
by Lost Jarv
May 29th, 2008
05:31:30 AM
Werewolf Ass Fuck. Because now I feel bad.
Yeah I feel bad about saying it now
by Kloipy
May 29th, 2008
06:09:24 AM
but then again it was written in the form of most of the men in my age group, not my own voice. I despise SATC, i think it creates an unrealistic allowance for women to feel that sleeping with anyone and everyone a license. It would be just as wrong if the show was from a man's perspective.
I'm Not A Misogynist
by LaserPants
May 29th, 2008
06:11:11 AM
but women do tend to enjoy some really god awful entertainments. Anyone who has ever been in a relationship of any duration with a woman knows that there's that dividing line that exists between stuff thats cool, and stuff that she likes. Its not misogynist or wrong to point that out. Its a fact of life. And women, by and large, are disinterested in the stuff that the menfolk like. They smile and nod and pretend to not be bored out of their wits, but they are. Its a wonder why men and women get together at all given the near complete disconnect between our points of view. I believe it has something to do with a genetically programmed urge to procreate, and the underlying pleasure principle that drives it. Otherwise, everyone would be gay.
and in my defense
by Kloipy
May 29th, 2008
06:12:14 AM
I be seeing this on Friday due to my wife's love of the television show and the fact that her friends are going to Philly to see it and we can't afford the trip due to the baby on the way. So my consequence for my words of werewolves and sodomy will be sitting through this film. It's my own Atonement. I'm James Macavoy. Goodnight
Don't feel bad Kloipy
by Lost Jarv
May 29th, 2008
06:14:35 AM
It's funnier than anything in that movie would be- and you're right. I did forget to mention that it was written in Character.
What's up Jarv!
by Kloipy
May 29th, 2008
06:15:45 AM
Yeah, at least i didn't stoop to a beastiality comment so, I guess +1 for me
on Good Morning America right now
by Kloipy
May 29th, 2008
06:20:12 AM
they are actually doing a piece about a lawsuit between the makers of Barbie and Bratz dolls. Thank God I never got into journalism. The only place I could feel good about working for would be The Daily Show
I don't think all the talkbackers deserved to get lectured
by Bobo_Vision
May 29th, 2008
06:32:33 AM
...on this one. I too have been disgusted by AICN talkbackers before, for some of the threads which have turned particularly racist. And yes, there are some offensive and mysoginistic posts here, but I think the majority of posts are normal reactions to guys responding to this show. I think guys on any site would respond the same way.

Calling SJP a "horse-face" doesn't make someone a sexist just because she's a woman - cruel, maybe, but not a sexist. And neither does despising the superficial aspect that the show promotes and caters to. There are some sexists who have posted here, but that doesn't make every single person who criticized and hated on this movie a sexist.

As for the Massawyrm title, that did make me cringe a little. But AICN is all about the suggestive sexual titles. I've seen titles which suggest pedophilia. Massa seems to be following the trend which already exists on this site, and the more shocking, the greater the reaction.

This site reeks of bad taste and offensiveness quite often, like the time Quint and his joke contest chose a racist joke involving a parrot calling a black man the "N" word and asking if he wants watermelon. The worst part was, no blackboxes came to voice their disgust.

But as for this talkback, its pretty tame. You have normal guys voicing their dislike for a superficial chick flick and show, then other guys getting offended and calling the talkbackers names, and then a few bigots peppered in throwing around slurs of all kind. As far as offensive talkbacks go, this one is not even close to being up there, and the offensive comments are limited to a few isolated people, so the outrage is really blown out of proportion. Pick your battles.

Wait until the Tropic Thunder boards
by JackRabbitSlim
May 29th, 2008
06:38:00 AM
Can't imagine how quickly that'll wallow in the sludge of racism
I'm on half days at the moment, Kloipy
by Lost Jarv
May 29th, 2008
06:40:26 AM
Thank the lord- so am about less this week. I'm glad to see you got some internet freedom back in your veal fattening pen.
yo Kloipy!
by just pillow talk
May 29th, 2008
06:41:30 AM
How have you been fellow warciple?
psifire = FUCKING PLANT
by Motoko Kusanagi
May 29th, 2008
07:04:09 AM
Get off this site NOW, you fucking marketing tool!
On Misogyny...
by OBSD
May 29th, 2008
07:26:12 AM
I'm gonna get a little political here, but bear with me. I'm an Obama supporter. On many left-leaning political websites there has been very distinct "If you don't support Hillary, then you hate all women vibe", and I'm more than a little sick of it. It's tired and it smacks of simplistic thinking, but what it does most of all is create a "cry wolf" scenario. To me the Obama (or McCain)=misogynist school of thinking is hyperbolic bullshit, but what's worse, is that it actually helps to deaden the senses to things that are actually misogynist. And now we come to this review. I don't think the review itself is misogynist. In fact, it's the funniest review I've read here since Vern's Transformers review. But the the rape headline was a bit offensive. I also think, however that it's a very short leap from "chocolate covered pussy juice" and other extremely crass things Harry has written to this headline. The talkbacks are another thing entirely. I've done my share of shit-talking on these boards, so maybe I shouldn't say anything, but I feel I have to. Guys, you aren't in a locker room! When you type something on these boards, everybody on planet earth (with an internet connection) can read them forever (or as long as the sites stay active)! If you hate Sex and the City because you don't find it funny, or you can't relate to the characters or setting, that's completely fine. But once you start bringing some truly hateful speech into it, you've crossed a line. But I get it. Some people here are just trying to be funny and I understand that in that spirit the oneupmanship can easily go off the rails into some truly offensive shit. I would never go so far as to call anyone a misogynist on this board because that's a heavy word not to be used lightly and I think it's thrown around way too much these days, and you really can't tell anything about a person's character from one line in an AICN talkback. But I will ask people to remember that what they say on here doesn't disappear into nothing. Re-read your post before actually hitting the "post talkback" button. Maybe you'll change your mind, maybe you won't. But think twice before saying what could be some truly offensive and stupid shit.
Hey there's Kloipy!
by Abominable Snowcone
May 29th, 2008
07:37:28 AM
Impending fatherciple of Chang, atoning in a purgatory of Sarah Jessica Parker proportions, she with her equine profile
I can see how
by Abominable Snowcone
May 29th, 2008
07:46:49 AM
some TBers and moderators are taking offense with the seemingly misogynist slant to some of the responses here. But I think most of those responses are done in jest (and admittedly without a lot of discretion). But I also think it should be acknowledged that S&TC is ABOUT four women who are kinda...well, superficial and promiscuous, yet desperate for committment from men. If this were a Star Wars TB, it would be open season to slam it (or praise it) for the subject matter. A women's movie shouldn't be granted special protection because it's a women's movie. Next thing you know, we won't be allowed to make fun of bad movies about blind lesbian dyslexic wheelchair racers who get magical superpowers and fight CGI robots from space. Heh.
Sweet Review!
by BeyondStatic
May 29th, 2008
07:47:08 AM
Dude! Awesome review! Loved it!
I pretty much co sign with Vern...
by hillingdon
May 29th, 2008
07:48:49 AM
But I'm not gonna lie THAT review and this talkback has been one of the best in a LONG while... It's made everyone at my office wonder what the hell I've been laughing at in my lunch hour... Oh and SJP - Why the long face? ;o)
heh
by Lost Jarv
May 29th, 2008
07:51:05 AM
"blind lesbian dyslexic wheelchair racers who get magical superpowers and fight CGI robots from space"

I'd buy that for a dollar

Vern
by DocPazuzu
May 29th, 2008
07:54:44 AM
*clap.... clap... clap....*

(stands up)

*clap... clap... clap... clap, clap, clap -- clap!clap!clap!clap!clap!clap! clap!!!!*

Doc Paz
by Abominable Snowcone
May 29th, 2008
07:57:48 AM
Your "clap-clap" parody of that "rent-our-theater-for-your-nex t-corporate-meeting" trailer rocks!

Jarv: best line spoken by Clarence Boddigger in Robocop: "Bitches leave."

Yes, but my wife gets upset when I quote that one
by Lost Jarv
May 29th, 2008
08:01:00 AM
She's OK with "Hail to the king" though.

Robocop is great.

psifire
by DocPazuzu
May 29th, 2008
08:01:32 AM
You unbelievable whore! What, you didn't get the "talkbackers eat plants alive for breakfast" memo? Take it out on Philbrick at the water cooler.

Seriously, how fucking retarded are you? And how fucking retarded do you think we are? Jarv pointed out your most obvious tells, but at this stage I would have thought your marketing cunts would have adapted a bit better.

Go fuck yourself.

Note to 'Werewolf Ass Fuck' Types
by YakMalla
May 29th, 2008
08:01:38 AM
The more you brag, the more obvious it is that you're a virgin.
YakMalla
by Lost Jarv
May 29th, 2008
08:06:10 AM
I feel that I should explain the context of that post- it was actually a joke and what Sex and The City would be like if men with the same personality flaws as those women were the central characters- Basically they meet up in the pub and then brag about......
Doc
by Lost Jarv
May 29th, 2008
08:10:24 AM
He's the most insulting plant I've seen for a while.

I couldn't believe the brazen audacity of it. What a dick.

"What is it Philbrick?"

"Sir, it's the Talkback hordes, again, they're getting restless. One of the reviewers has stirred them up."

"Whaddyamean restless? Don't they like tits and ass? Doesn't everyone love that show?"

"No sir, they think it's reprehensible, and the women are ugly"

"Call in the Plants, Philbrick, call them in now"

"Ain't it Cool (?) News"
by Drunken Rage
May 29th, 2008
08:16:21 AM
It frequenty isn't, and I wonder why Massa would write such a venomous review of something he hated and which he could very reasonably expect the TBers would either refuse to see or also hate. It's shooting fish in a barrel, waaaaaaay too easy. The quality of feedback is pretty mean-spirited (some of mine, also), but it begs the point: what about this movie would make it noteworthy of being on a site which is called "Ain't it Cool News"?
Please gas the theaters showing this.....
by classyfredblassy
May 29th, 2008
08:20:53 AM
do us all a favor. after this comes out, there were be waves of fat chicks in fake designer clothes going out to get drunk and try to hook up with guys out of their league. RUN!
And, Vern, nice "Hell in the Pacific" reference
by Drunken Rage
May 29th, 2008
08:21:02 AM
Made me laugh out loud.
Hey Vern, get off your fucking high horse......face
by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks
May 29th, 2008
08:22:56 AM
This talkback is relatively tame compared to some of the crap that gets said when it gets political or religious. For craps sake, what the hell kind of reaction do you expect for this review of this cunt of a movie.
I saw the ad for this...
by classyfredblassy
May 29th, 2008
08:24:56 AM
And thought it was a sequel to the "water horse" for a second. I did love horse face in "Real Genius" as young boy whiz kid Mitch. How long has she been a girl?
Vern, stop being the voice of reason, goddamnit!
by rbatty024
May 29th, 2008
08:35:56 AM
If I wanted a reasonable, intelligent discussion I wouldn't come to AICN. All those fancy movie magazines and websites can look down on us because we don't do things like "make a logical argument" or actually "discuss movies" but I don't come to AICN for things like discussions and movies. I come here to make turrets like outbursts. Bitch! Fuck! Cunt! Look at me, look at me!
Classyfredblassy, great Real Genius reference
by krullboyisback
May 29th, 2008
08:36:22 AM
I remember when there was a TB about a possible Real Genius sequel, and tons of fanboys where saying that Sarah Jessica Parker should play Mitch; HILARIOUS!!
Have no desire to see this...
by Darkman
May 29th, 2008
08:50:31 AM
...and after learning of its nasty jokes and running time, I have even less of a desire to.

However, any guy that wouldn't want to put it in Kim Cattrall = perfect audience for this movie.
She changed sex after The Black Stallion
by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks
May 29th, 2008
08:52:27 AM
she was AWESOME in that movie.
The Black Stallion Returns was shit however
by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks
May 29th, 2008
08:54:20 AM
They recast her for the Winner of the 82' Melborne Cup!!!!
Hey krullboyisback
by classyfredblassy
May 29th, 2008
09:14:39 AM
Did you ever notice the Red headed chick on "sex" looks just like david bowie, from the ziggy stardust era?
SJP sucked ass in Mars Attacks
by classyfredblassy
May 29th, 2008
09:15:29 AM
as did the kid with big fucking ears from Witness.
You know what's funny about SJP in Ed Wood...
by rbatty024
May 29th, 2008
09:16:31 AM
She actually referred to her horse face. In the beginning of the movie she reads a negative review of her stage performance and asks the other actors if she really has a face like a horse. It was actually pretty gutsy of her. I'll give her props for that.
TB Cherry bursting all over SJP's face.
by Diamond Mike Inferno
May 29th, 2008
09:17:11 AM
This is my first ever post on the TB. I've been coming on Ain't It Cool for years but have never felt the need to sign up, post a rant or whatever. There's been films that I've adored over the years that I haven't felt the need to sing their praises or discuss etc but I had to over this movie. I haven't seen it. I'm never going to see it. I know it will just annoy the piss out of me and it'll annoy me even more when it makes a shitload at the box office. But why? That's the thing I don't get. Why does it annoy me that much? Yeah, I hate the characters. They're not likeable in the slightest and seemingly have no redeeming features. Seinfeld has characters similar in the way that, they're not really nice people but they always got their just desserts in one way or another. I'm a big fan of that show and loved the characters but at the Season 7 finale where the death of Susan was met with near indifference, it made me realise how horrible these characters were as people. And in some way, that added to Seinfeld's brilliance. SITC had no such "payoff". The characters never seemed to learn anything or be held accountable for any of their actions. It was always someone else's (usually a man) fault, never theirs. I could go on forever but I can't be arsed. I guess it comes down to this. I know a lot of girls who love this show and I know have been saying that this is one of their all time favourite films (before seeing it!) but at the end of the day, whether we like it or not, this movie is an event movie. And we're not invited. After years of dragging my girlfriend to the Star Wars prequels, superhero flicks, Spanish horror films or boring the pants off her with me going on and on and on about how they're getting all the Avengers together, she's finally got something that she's been looking forward to and is getting excited about. For her and her friends, this is escapism. Where it's all about the girls. She knows how I feel about it and knows that I'll just end up ranting in the cinema. Same way she knows it's best to watch Grease when I'm not there so she doesn't have to put up with my usual rant about how fucked up tha film is. But my attitude is simply this movie is her payback for all the stuff I love that she hates but she puts up with, be it Rocky, Star Wars, Wrestlemania etc. I'm excited for her but personally I'd rather gouge out my eyes and stick hot toffee apples in the holes before I go and see this movie. This movie is for her. Not for me. And not for most of us here. So instead of trying to understand it or wonder why in Sweet Jesus' jelly bean collection's name does this show/movie even exists, I'm gonna take comfort in the fact that this summer I've been spoit and this one blot on the landscape will not ruin my "Geek Season". Loved the review by the way. Might not have agreed with all of it but it made me laugh and kept me reading without distraction from beginning to end. And that's why it's a good review.
I promissed to take my wife to this, WTF was I thinking??????
by Nerdgasm
May 29th, 2008
09:25:43 AM
At least you guys who are taking your girlfriends will probably get a blowjob after (or maybe during the picture if you're lucky?), but like I said...I'm taking my wife, and as all my other friends who are married know, putting a ring on a girls finger makes her completely forget how to smoke a pole.
SJP just came 3rd in the fifth!
by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks
May 29th, 2008
09:27:19 AM
That bitch can run, she came third by a nose. mwahahahahahaaa
Vern - Well said, but you missed a few people
by toadkillerdog
May 29th, 2008
09:31:38 AM
There is no doubt that this site lends itself to a more uh, freewheeling, form of expression than some of the other movie sites you mentioned.

However, there is no doubt that the tone is set from the very top.

When I first joined this site, I did so because I wanted a 'geek clearinghouse' and like it or not, AICN is the most recognized geek fan site name out there (by the casual fan at least).

It was only after I had experiecned the 'no-holds barred' mentality around here, and the childish glee of being able to say any word in any combination about any topic, that I realized thoughtful discussion, while possible, is not the norm here.

This site was founded by geeks who have never left their childhood behind, and that same feeling is rapidly is picked up by the TB'ers.

It is not a surprise then, that some extremes of childish behavior are common.

And I raise my hand an plead guilty to indulging in that childsh side more than once myself.

But, where I applaud you, and a few others, who have tried to be a voice of reason, is that even in a wide open frontier such as these TB's, there should be some decorum.

Someone else posted that perhaps we should pause before pushing the 'post talkback' button.

That is one of the best ideas I have heard around here. It will not stop the wildness, but any little change will help.

SJP once crapped on my front lawn
by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks
May 29th, 2008
09:34:25 AM
at least I think it was her.
dickblood, you're correct about Ed Wood & Mars Attacks
by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks
May 29th, 2008
09:36:46 AM
I'm just havin some fun
SEX AND THE HORSE RANCH
by BringingSexyBack
May 29th, 2008
09:59:04 AM
Neigh I say!
Hey I'd gladly plow any of them SATC chicks
by studmaster
May 29th, 2008
10:04:03 AM
with the possible exception of the dike. And I'd do Kristin Davis in every sweet little hole she's got.
I acknowledge that I said
by Abominable Snowcone
May 29th, 2008
10:07:55 AM
SJP does have an "equine profile." That said, I'd gladly park my bus in her garage.
Remember that scene in L.A Story when Steve Martin
by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks
May 29th, 2008
10:08:53 AM
fucked that horse and it fuckin SPOKE?
Didn't she play the judge in Nuthin But Trouble?
by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks
May 29th, 2008
10:10:57 AM
oh sorry that was some other cocknose.
Kim Catrall needs bukkake
by Abominable Snowcone
May 29th, 2008
10:11:00 AM
Sex and the Bit'n'Bridle Stables.
Nomoredirtyjokes
by Abominable Snowcone
May 29th, 2008
10:12:01 AM
Great nose reference, Ackroyd in NBT. One of the worst, most surreal movies I've EVER seen. EVER. And it had Demi in it, who is (or at least was) to DIE for
I once saw this movie
by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks
May 29th, 2008
10:12:13 AM
it was a barnyard scene and a chick was suckin SJP's cock!!!!!!
RE: "They're not 35 anymore....."
by NoCalFlicks
May 29th, 2008
10:13:14 AM
That line really makes me laugh, AS IF 35 year old women should be whoring around in clubs. If you are shallow and self-centered still at 35, you probably will be at 40,45,50 as well. The show might have been more accurate if the characters were in their late twenties and approaching 30, but most of them were already in their mid to late thirties and acted like they were teenagers, neurotic, self absorbed, materialistic teenagers at that. Oh and lucky me, my girlfriend would rather go with me to see Dawn of the Dead & They Live at our local Trash Film Festival http://www.trashfilmorgy.com/2 008-new/2008-Schedule.htm then to see this flick. She was never a fan, thank goodness. Me Happy!!!
Demi was severly fuckable in that flick
by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks
May 29th, 2008
10:14:19 AM
and yes it is one crazy movie.
Nomoredirty
by Abominable Snowcone
May 29th, 2008
10:16:15 AM
Yes, my balls ached just looking at Mrs. Willis with her cute little short hair and tight little....mmmmmfph!
I bet Chevy tried some moves
by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks
May 29th, 2008
10:17:36 AM
and came off looking like Chevy Chase.
Just lookin on Wikapedia
by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks
May 29th, 2008
10:20:48 AM
it says SJP first role was horse 57 in the classic Aussie war film The Lighthorsemen. I actually remember it. She had a fantasic death scene.
before she made it in hollywood
by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks
May 29th, 2008
10:25:41 AM
SJP worked part time driving cattle.
She was great in Clerks 2
by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks
May 29th, 2008
10:26:55 AM
has that already been said? If not ....BOOYAAAAHHH
I wonder if SJP
by Abominable Snowcone
May 29th, 2008
10:29:05 AM
gets Naaaaaaaaaykid
My favorite bit in Zelda for the Wii
by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks
May 29th, 2008
10:40:02 AM
When you first ride the SJP motion captured Epona over the fields of Hyrule for the first time.
Geeze
by hairlesspet
May 29th, 2008
10:42:12 AM
I could write a discertation on social dynamics that centered only on this talkback. Massa's title is funny, and I laughed at a lot of jokes that were blatantly sexist, homophobic, and just plain tasteless in this talkback. Enter Verne: Buzz Killington. Though he does make a very good point, it should be noted that his post is a reaction to said tasteless jokes, not only from this review and TB, but also from his own previously less than G-rated reviews. It's like watching a Doug Stanhope comedy special: the man says the most deplorable things in the world, you laugh your ass off, then afterwards you feel like you should do some good in the world. I for one will not denote myself a sexist or anti-femenist if I snicker at a tasteless joke here and there. And now I'm off to the real world to put forth some beneficial effort.
I love that scene
by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks
May 29th, 2008
10:49:42 AM
all the courtroom scenes are bizarro comedy gold.
I have SJP grandpa stuffed in my den.
by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks
May 29th, 2008
10:54:49 AM
He's a great centrepiece and cost a mint!
DGDB
by toadkillerdog
May 29th, 2008
10:56:06 AM
Ok, that made me laugh! But, can you or anyone tell me what the girl screams at the end of the movie to Bastian?

It's easy to play six degrees of seperation with SJP
by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks
May 29th, 2008
10:57:59 AM
the bitch is in like 80% of movies from Phar Lap to Beowulf.
sorry guys, i was just in before work and now on break
by Kloipy
May 29th, 2008
10:59:38 AM
and again now having to leave. It sucks
that's okay Kloipy
by just pillow talk
May 29th, 2008
11:02:02 AM
The CoC bids you many happy pencil stabbings today at work.
I laughed my ass off when Kramer fed her chilli
by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks
May 29th, 2008
11:02:04 AM
and then drove Susan's parents around. Classic episode.
it was just one possible idea
by Vern
May 29th, 2008
11:03:43 AM
we could go back to talking about cunts and blowjobs if that's what you guys want.

I avoid the political talkbacks that have been referenced but seriously, I think the fact that several people have said this one is "tame" kind of proves my point. It's hard to get away with racism and to some extent homophobia these days but nobody gives a shit if you talk about your own wife as some stupid bitch you're trying to trick into getting sex from. There's about a hundred angry dudes up there talking about bitches, cunts, whores, bukkake, and you don't see what's wrong with it, and yet you can't tell your wife or girlfriend "I'd rather not see that one, is it okay if I don't go?" I'd love to hear you explain this talkback to her. "Yes dear, I did write that I would like to 'stick it in' that 'stupid cuntface whore bitch' but only because I hate her for being a slut, not because I don't love you. Do you need me to mow the lawn or anything? I love you sweetie."

This is a little off topic but I would also like to mention that there are women with good taste in movies, and also women who are willing to go see SEX AND THE CITY by themselves and you can go see RAMBO by yourself. Don't mean to blow your fuckin mind but the guy with that "women are from mars" book is a fuckin liar. There is no spoon.

Anyway thanks for your thoughts everybody, but I stand by what I said, I do think "ha ha, I raped a bitch and she cried and bled" is worse than "chocolate covered pussy juice".

BIG CASTING NEWS
by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks
May 29th, 2008
11:04:33 AM
SJP just landed the role of Zoltars steed in the new 500 million dollar Micheal Bay adaption of the classic cartoon.
or was it Zoltan?
by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks
May 29th, 2008
11:05:58 AM
remember that dude with the Clydesdale? Thats the one.
sorry Quint, I'm to busy tryin to think of more horse jokes
by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks
May 29th, 2008
11:08:32 AM
quit killin my buzz. Fuck the true zealots, me is havin some fun.
Quint must be tryin to get laid guys, give him some slack
by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks
May 29th, 2008
11:11:30 AM
I mean shit dude, are you even reading this anymore? Or does the image of some chick in a barnyard sucking horsefaces cock truly offend thee?
Fuck that, I read my barnyard joke to my wife
by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks
May 29th, 2008
11:18:40 AM
she thought it was funny shit. She hates that fuckin show too. Get it Vern, we don't hate women, we hate this piece of shit show which shows more spite to the character of women than most of us buffoons on this talkback.
Dammit, I was about to do Krull
by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks
May 29th, 2008
11:21:34 AM
oh well, she was also great as Shadowfax.
Yeah Vern
by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks
May 29th, 2008
11:25:53 AM
and this is more rant worthy than most. Like many have said, this is tame. Grow some balls, or get a fucking sense of humour. Better yet, stop reading if your so offended.
what was that blabber dioxholster?
by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks
May 29th, 2008
11:27:51 AM
was that a compliment or a plagarism accusation?
Remember in that movie Let It Ride with Dreyfuss
by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks
May 29th, 2008
11:30:21 AM
when SJP won him over 600 thousand dollars. That was great.
DGDB
by Abominable Snowcone
May 29th, 2008
11:32:04 AM
I see Quint's point, but I agree with you ultimately. I wouldn't tell my signficant other what I post here, because some of the comments are admittedly juvenile, especially after a movie TB has digressed or "died out" and the jokes start flying. But inane comments and verbal banter doesn't mean I'm an idiot or woman-basher. Like you said, lots of us come here for geek movie talk and goofin' around, like a clubhouse of sorts. I don't have anything against SJP at ALL. She's been fine in everything I've seen her in, and I should say I never saw a single episode of SiTC. At the same time, I feel at liberty to joke about other actors I admire and don't admire. No reason why SJP warrants an exemption. At the end of the day, I would hit that.
"His Jiz taste funny...."
by Mace Tofu
May 29th, 2008
11:39:40 AM
Can the movie top the TV show without any funky spunk? I think not. Is there any fucking in the movie because that was the funniest part of the TV show. ATM is the only thing the TV didn't do.
Yeah mate, she has a sense of humour
by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks
May 29th, 2008
11:40:31 AM
and knows when I'm joking around.
SJP's grandmother starred in Rob Brownings Freaks
by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks
May 29th, 2008
11:45:09 AM
unfortunately she was just a horse.
fuck, should have been Tod Browning
by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks
May 29th, 2008
11:46:25 AM
or something like that. I'm drunk and excited.
SJP stunt double starred in True Lies
by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks
May 29th, 2008
11:49:28 AM
Sarah was on coke at the time and kept attempting the jump ya see.
In fact there is a video on the Net
by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks
May 29th, 2008
11:51:07 AM
of a hardcore Coke n'sex party with Tom Arnold, a horse, and a cow called Rosanne.
Wow, I am drunk
by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks
May 29th, 2008
11:54:33 AM
just realised I was calling Vern Quint. Man, that's like doing SJP and accidentally calling her Seabisquit.
Nah man
by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks
May 29th, 2008
11:55:40 AM
just shootin the horse.
She was great in Trainspotting as Sick Boy
by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks
May 29th, 2008
11:59:04 AM
That was actual equine shit that covered that English breakfast.
Remember when she had the heart attack in Animal House
by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks
May 29th, 2008
12:01:31 PM
I shit my pants with laughter. SJP is the equine Buster Keaton.
Again Vern...
by blckmgk13
May 29th, 2008
12:01:36 PM
Massawyrm has not done anything that hasn't already been established as "fair game" from previous reviews. Reviews that have been homophobic, racist, misogynistic and worse. Seriously dude, I like you reviews but get off your fucken high horse or start with Harry before you try and reform this site. And one thing to note as well, the majority of your reviews have been borderline austic with the randomness you use in describing films. You do it for humour but by no means does it create more intelligent discussions about Segal films and similar ilk. This site has long been established as being "cool" but a far cry from film school debate class. I can't stress it enough, lighten up or start with the creator of the site.
Whatabout in Police Academy when Harris
by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks
May 29th, 2008
12:03:28 PM
went up her ass. I just found out it was a butt double. It's only SJP in the closeups!
Her second cousin Larry played the head in Godfather
by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks
May 29th, 2008
12:06:28 PM
it's okay though, he had terminal throat cancer due to his pack a day habit. Kid's, don't smoke, look what happened to Larry.
SJP must be pissed
by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks
May 29th, 2008
12:08:15 PM
she's been completely cut out of that Mongol banner up top. She's the lead horse for fucks sake.
Stephen King once said...
by Blue_Demon
May 29th, 2008
12:10:35 PM
when he got letters for writing a scene where a dog is kicked to death: "There was no actual dog kicked to death." Sooooo..."There was nobody actually left bleeding and crying and Massa doesn't advocate such actions." AS IF we have to actually point that out for some of you. Madre de Dios, will everything have to have a disclaimer?
"You wouldn't tell your wife or gf......"
by NoCalFlicks
May 29th, 2008
12:13:12 PM
Well of course we wouldn't, but we also wouldn't repeat to her half the stuff we would say anytime we are together with our buddies "shootin' the shit" Not any different then what women probably say when they get together with their girlfriends, and quite frankly I can careless. There are a lot of comments/rants/spite/anger/iro ny etc etc expressed in good fun on the internet, on this site, in this talkback that is harmless b.s. but it is no different then what goes on when with a group of friends.
SJP & John Candy....
by NoCalFlicks
May 29th, 2008
12:16:38 PM
Those two were a great team in Hot to Trot!!!
Hey diox holster, whats black and blue and hates sex?
by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks
May 29th, 2008
12:18:47 PM
a rape victim. Sorry.
Vern cleaning up Dodge on his high horse
by Massawyrm 1
May 29th, 2008
12:19:44 PM

Vern, While I appreciate your attempt to put on the silver star and clean up Dodge, do me a favor. Watch where you're shootin', Tex. First of all, this talkback would have been this talkback with or without the headline. You know that. Many of these guys were waiting to pull out a series of jokes about this movie, and mine was the first review out of the gate here. Don't pretend that I whipped them into a frenzy. There's nothing here deliberately inciting this. You said it yourself, you've been here long enough to know better.

The headline has proven to be an interesting mirror of the minds of readers. It's a reference to an old joke about getting fucked hard. When people started talking RAPE yesterday, it threw me for a loop. That's not how the reference was intended. Some people saw the humor, some people got the metaphor...others envisioned darker, more horrible things and then put their demons on me. Fine. It happens. You write words without definitive context - you take it in the ass when people go all squibbly about it. I wrote it, I'll take the angry mail. But you're another writer. You should know better, and if you don't, you should have the common courtesy as a fellow writer to drop me an e-mail and ask me what the fuck I was thinking before calling me out into the street for a gunfight.

And please, for the love of god. read the review. There's one "rape" joke, if you will - which isn't about raping this movie or its cast or inferring that I desired to do anything unsavory. It was a tasteless joke about the combination of influences that involved the wholly improbable happenstance of 3 FILMS attacking another FILM. So seriously, stop with the "ha ha, I raped a bitch and she cried and bled" horseshit. That's nowhere in the piece. That's not what was intended. And if you don't know that, come down here to Texas, I'll buy you a beer and we'll have a long talk about context.

VERN - I HAVE AN URGENT QUESTION FOR YOU
by BringingSexyBack
May 29th, 2008
12:20:36 PM
At any conventions you've attended, have you ever noticed a guy come up real close to you and smell you? Like, really take your essense in?
MASSAWYRM - THAT QUESTION GOES FOR YOU TOO
by BringingSexyBack
May 29th, 2008
12:21:41 PM
Forget the horse face. This is important.
I WASN'T THINKING RAPE WHEN I READ THAT HEADLINE
by BringingSexyBack
May 29th, 2008
12:23:02 PM
I thought the bitch was having her period and acting emotional.
KINDA LIKE MORBID
by BringingSexyBack
May 29th, 2008
12:23:43 PM
Except when he's emotional he takes it out on himself, because that's who he's dating.
I'm with Vern on this one.
by Gilkuliehe
May 29th, 2008
12:23:49 PM
Yes I am.
I was raped by SJP
by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks
May 29th, 2008
12:25:40 PM
I can't be sure but I was told the bitch who did it could trot 4000m in 3 minutes and I had hoof marks on my shoulders.
THIS LOOKS LIKE IT'S GONNA GET UGLY
by BringingSexyBack
May 29th, 2008
12:27:18 PM
I hate when people fight on talkbacks. CHILL VERN!! CHILL MASSA!!!
CAN WE GET A WOMAN'S OPINION ON THIS?
by BringingSexyBack
May 29th, 2008
12:27:51 PM
Where's Brane?
funny BSB, I just thought he beat her up
by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks
May 29th, 2008
12:27:59 PM
cause woman beatins funny, just watch Temple of Doom.
BSB
by Abominable Snowcone
May 29th, 2008
12:30:02 PM
That's the way I interpreted as well. She's menstruating, and after the guy withdraws, there's some spotting on the sheets, and she gets weepy from embarrassement. All of which I took to mean that Vern was suggesting the four leading ladies should be embarrassed by the movie.
Best SJP moment EVER
by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks
May 29th, 2008
12:30:26 PM
when she took that epic plunge over the cliff, Tom Burlinson on her mighty back, to create in visual form The Man From Snowy River.
Go team Vern!
by rbatty024
May 29th, 2008
12:31:23 PM
When I re-read that headline (at first I thought Massa was the one bleeding) I assumed it was a reference to rape. Others did as well. I don't think it's a terribly out there assumption given the context. Instead of the violent image of blood you could have left the film begging for more or something along those lines. Glad to hear that rape was not your intention, though.

Those who are complaining about Vern citation of misogyny in the talkback, I think you misunderstand what misogyny is. It's not just calling someone ugly or saying you don't like a TV show. It is referring to women in general, or even women who watch a particular show, as sluts who you want to bang in whatever orifice and toss to the side. Read his posts if you don't believe me. He very clearly picks out those posts and differentiates them from the "chocolate covered pussy" or gross out posts. For some reason misogyny is more acceptable than racism. Why? I have no idea.

didn't she play a cameo as ahead on the wall
by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks
May 29th, 2008
12:34:27 PM
in Evil Dead 2? I believe they made her up as a deer, much to her anger, as she hates blackface as should we all.
rbatty, get a grip
by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks
May 29th, 2008
12:36:24 PM
we are making fucking horse jokes here.
Vern, I've always supported you, and you couldn't be more wrong
by Laserhead
May 29th, 2008
12:38:47 PM
Your bleeding heart, PC correctness is a horrible thing to behold. PEOPLE SHOULD BE ABLE TO MAKE FUN OF ANYONE. As somebody with a hot wife who's a wonderful woman, I can say that women get up to some stupid, nonsensical shit, and if that makes me a misogynist, then boo-fucking-hoo. Sometimes honesty and truth doesn't line up with your idealized version of the world, where stereotypes have no basis in reality. I don't think misogyny should be more acceptable than racism. I think we should be able to make jokes at the expense of people's races, sexuality, and genders because it's only fucking words and the minute you start applying all these powers to language that it doesn't have, you're abdicating responsibility from the individual to notional language. On a related note, NO ONE IS MORE MISOGYNISTIC THAN WOMEN. Women don't even like being with other women! Women hate on each other all the time, for nothing at all! AND your losing sight of the main issue here: which is that Sex and the City is a shallow show about four narcissistic characters that's been passed off as being intelligent pop for too long. But Vern, if we're your embarassing cousing or whatever, let me offer this solution: get the fuck out of here and don't come back.
Hum, Massa...
by Gilkuliehe
May 29th, 2008
12:40:39 PM
I think that rant about CONTEXT was pretty off-base. I'm a writer too (in another language, mind you), and despite any given context the phrase "Massawyrm Has SEX AND THE CITY And Leaves It Bleeding And Crying On The Mattress!!" still sounds derogatory. It may not mean literally RAPE, but it's pretty damn close, don't you think? It still takes pride in the act of dominating someone physically through the act of fucking, in this case resulting on both physical (blood) and/or emotional (tears) damage. And it's not just the title dude, there's a lot of "ooh look at me I'm so harsh and funny" types of jokes in your review and that pretty much sets the tone of the following conversation. It's true talkbackers are waiting to piss on this movie, and previous news about this film have proven so, but still... Don't dodge the bullet like that. You wanted to write that review and you wanted to be that guy. That was Vern's first question. The pride in your answer bothered me too. And now it bothers me that you are telling Vern HE should know better. He does know better, buddy. And asking for courtesy and not calling you out sounds pretty whiny to me.
I studded my mare with SJP just last week
by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks
May 29th, 2008
12:40:43 PM
I paid top dollar so I better have some action.
I didn't see the title as rape either...
by Bobo_Vision
May 29th, 2008
12:40:57 PM
...I saw it as rough sex, and then no cuddling afterwards. Will Smith told an anecdote recently where he told Jada during an awards show, "Daaamn girl, I'm gonna tear that thing up tonight", only to find that Ellen Degeneres was a few feet away looking at him as he said it. Thats what came to mind when I heard the title. That the movie got torn up. There were no clues that it was not consensual with the movie. It was cringeworthy, but not necessarily criminal.
I am not a white American woman
by Abominable Snowcone
May 29th, 2008
12:43:37 PM
But I play one on TV, and I do think that American women can often be very shallow, and that's what this film appears to depict, therefore opening itself to the ridicule seen on this TB. Shoes and shopping and wanting to get laid by Mr. Cromagnon Man, while also hoping Prince Charming comes along and takes me away to our dreamy new home in France.
And for the record...
by Massawyrm 1
May 29th, 2008
12:43:46 PM
I do agree that the headline was a mistake. In my greed to squeeze in one more tasteless joke, I shifted the conversation from the content to the packaging. Rather than discussing the body of what I had to write, we're arguing over whether or not a joke was appropriate. I don't care what your point of view on the appropriateness of the joke, I have failed as a writer to convey what I had to say all because I wanted to be funny. What was supposed to be a funny attention grabber became an offensive distraction. That there is what we call a lifelesson.
SO WHAT IF IT SOUNDS DEROGATORY?!?!
by Laserhead
May 29th, 2008
12:44:00 PM
THIS seems like something to get upset about-- because the idea of having rough sex with a piece of film offends your delicate sensibilities? Oh dear, whatever you do, DON'T BE DEROGATORY. Fuck your high horse.
I BLAME GANGSTA RAPPERS FOR THIS CONTROVERSY
by BringingSexyBack
May 29th, 2008
12:44:25 PM
and French people. Name one French film where a woman don't get smacked.
Fuck yeah Laserhead
by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks
May 29th, 2008
12:45:15 PM
Thats what I said. Don't fuckin read it.
Good one dickblood,
by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks
May 29th, 2008
12:47:30 PM
so obvious, but so perfect.
THIS MOVIE WAS ASKING FOR IT!!!
by Laserhead
May 29th, 2008
12:48:07 PM
"For some reason misogyny is more acceptable than racism."
by Bobo_Vision
May 29th, 2008
12:49:09 PM
"Why? I have no idea."

I have an idea why. The thing about this show that irks me is how it represents the relationship between men and women as an "us against them" type of battle. A strategic war. And yes, there are many guys who see it that way too, like guys who hang out in clubs, but they aren't necessarily the majority.

But now you have these damaged reactionary females who think that playing these games and viewing relationships in this way is part of empowerment. So I see a lot of the comments in this talkback as reactionary to that mentality, which plays the relationship between men and women as a type of battle, and this show feeds into that.

Is it the reaction acceptable? No. Understandable? Yes.

SJP hates Babe
by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks
May 29th, 2008
12:49:26 PM
its so synthetic.
Why misogyny is funny:
by Laserhead
May 29th, 2008
12:51:09 PM
Because like all good humor, it's rooted in truth. This is also why racist humor is funny.
Gilkuliehe
by Massawyrm 1
May 29th, 2008
12:52:26 PM

"You wanted to write that review and you wanted to be that guy. That was Vern's first question."

Do you know that? Do you know me? There is pride in that answer, because I take pride in what I do. Like vern, I write for a couple of other site, but unlike him, it is how I make my living. I take this very seriously. It is why I am where I am in my career. That was Vern trying to understand my methodology from his point of view. We've never met. But that hasn't stopped him from taking cheap shots with little to nothing backing them up. I didn't walk into this wanting to hate it - I walked in wanting to like it. Go back and read my "What happened in Vegas" piece - you'll get what I mean.

SJP's pratfalls in The Mask of Zorro sell that film
by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks
May 29th, 2008
12:54:39 PM
forget Hopkins, Banderas or Zeta Jones. I want more SJP tomfoolery.
ONLY LASERHEAD FINDS RACIST HUMOR FUNNY
by BringingSexyBack
May 29th, 2008
12:56:09 PM
The rest of us find racial humor funny.
Hey Massa
by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks
May 29th, 2008
12:56:39 PM
we makin you laugh or what?
Let's play a game.
by rbatty024
May 29th, 2008
12:57:17 PM
First off, I understand that Massa was not trying to use a rape joke. However, let's replace misogyny with racism and see how that works. What if I wrote the title RBatty just lynched Stomp the Yard. I think that would just as inappropriate as many of the comments made in this talkback. I don't give a shit about the horse face jokes. That doesn't bother me. What bothers me is when people refer to women who watch Sex and the City as "cunts" who they can then fuck and not feel guilty about. As Vern noted, this is just as shallow and obnoxious as the show itself.

Let us extend the it's just words argument. Sex and the City is just "words." They really aren't going around having sex with a bunch of guys and buying expensive shoes. Words signify something. In the case of Sex and the City, the show signifies a shallow view of women. Some of these talkbacks signify a lack of understanding of the hurtful nature of rape and display a shocking dismissal of women in general. Women are far more varied and complex than this show makes them seem, and how apparently some of the talkbackers view them.

Go Massawyrm Go!
by classyfredblassy
May 29th, 2008
12:57:42 PM
SJP = John Elway = Mr. Ed
racial humor is racist humor
by Laserhead
May 29th, 2008
12:59:34 PM
in that it indicates bias based on race. You big fucking baby.
I'm outta jokes
by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks
May 29th, 2008
01:02:14 PM
hence, I'm outta here. It's been as fun as when SJP helped me get the Newcastle 3rd race quinella.
Shit before I go, we should promote Vern vs Massa
by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks
May 29th, 2008
01:04:12 PM
It'll be like Rocky vs Apollo. Verns black right?
I read that review, Massawyrm.
by Gilkuliehe
May 29th, 2008
01:10:13 PM
And I agreed with you there. I also had to review that movie (for money, yes) and I didn't hate it also, which was very surprising to me. So cheers for that. But this piece made me think of something Moriarty wrote (I believe) about how sometimes critics over do the "negative review" thing, how they set up for "revenge". That's this review for me. I'm talking about the tone of it, the jokes, the emphasis. I have zero problems with that as a reader, and I also enjoy this kind of stuff when I hate the subject matter as much as the writer... But in this case I believe it does invite for this kind of talkback. That is all. The tittle does its part, and the rest of the review does too. That's why I think "you wanted to be that guy". I'm not talking about your personal life of your choices as a person. I'm only saying Vern is right calling you out, and you are wrong saying you were simply misunderstood. Nothing else. Peace, man.
SJP starring as Triple Crown Winner: Big Brown
by krullboyisback
May 29th, 2008
01:14:42 PM
with prequel rights to "Secretariat: The Movie" already in progress
It's simple....
by Darth Macchio
May 29th, 2008
01:15:43 PM
When you first start dating...ask her (or him or whomever you're dating)..."What is your favorite movie?". My ex used to buy DVD's every time she went to the store and name it..she had it (ok...she didn't have LotR but she had Ghostrider! Fucking Ghostrider!). And even me, multiple black-belt martial-arts extraordinaire, 375th generational grandmaster of the black/mystical arts, jetsetting playboy, MIT quadruple doctoral graduate (their first!) in esoteric physics/neurosciences/cinemolo gy/tantric sex, billionaire philanthropist, MI5 secret agent, mutagenically charged super-human, Navy SEAL, God-Emperor of the Universe, yes even me....I used to watch SatC and enjoyed it too on occasion...I'm not afraid to admit it (on an anonymous forum)! Altho Kim Catrall isn't near as kitten and lovely hot ness as Kristen Davis.
I enjoyed SJP's performance in Raiders and Last Crusade
by krullboyisback
May 29th, 2008
01:18:06 PM
when Harrison Ford rode her in both the Ark truck chase sequence and the battle against the tank in the Canyon of the Crescent Moon
LASERHEAD
by BringingSexyBack
May 29th, 2008
01:21:10 PM
Don't mind me, I'm just fucking with you.
SJP is a gender-bender role: A Man Called Horse
by krullboyisback
May 29th, 2008
01:24:42 PM
brought to you by the Hallmark Hall of Fame
Don't worry guys, SATC will eventually become the Golden Girls
by krullboyisback
May 29th, 2008
01:27:34 PM
if they pump out enough sequels
Wait-- Vern's black?
by Laserhead
May 29th, 2008
01:27:42 PM
I always thought he was too well-reasoned and articulate to be black. Though, obviously, such a fact would explain his references to having spent time in jail.
Massa don't sweat it
by Abominable Snowcone
May 29th, 2008
01:28:34 PM
If anybody truly read that title and thought you were alluding to rape, or for an instant thought you approve of or condone rape, or truly find humor in it, they're being silly. Or at the very least, too sensitive. Everyone else knows better, and silly headlines is part of the reason we come here. Come. Get it?
I agree Abominable Snowcone, he was merely
by krullboyisback
May 29th, 2008
01:30:09 PM
talking about grunge fucking or sport fucking
Krullboy and Aboniable.
by Gilkuliehe
May 29th, 2008
01:38:37 PM
I want to ask you guys, you really thing there's nothing wrong with sex which results in the woman bleeding and crying? Really, is it funny?

I know it says SEX AND THE CITY and not A WOMAN, but being this particular show/movie so women-centered, and being Massawyrm a guy, it's fairly obvious to read the title as heterosexual sex, so don't go there either. My point is, I don't think is funny, nor the epitome of mysoginy, but it does set the tone of the pretty fucking childish and offensive talkback that ensues later...

We really should leave Seabuiscut alone.......
by Stuntcock Mike
May 29th, 2008
01:45:43 PM
all she needs is a good brushing.
Gilkuliehe, all that I am saying is that there
by krullboyisback
May 29th, 2008
01:46:27 PM
is a line, albeit a fine one, between rape, rough sex, and bondage type sex. .. whereas all three can and do involve pain, rape is inexcusable, bottom line. Though my comments may be a bit sophmoric, to say that pain/tears automatically equates to rape is a bit of a rush to judgement...I am by no means an S and M type, but I am sure that there are some here in the TBs (both men and women) that won't deny the fact that pain and power is part of the eroticism they choose to practice as consenting adults. Taken in that context, Massa's review title should not be that offensive, but taken within the context of rape, then it is offensive. As he said, he was not meaning it to come across as rape related, more likely rough sex
Didn't SJP get an oscar for Zoo?
by Stuntcock Mike
May 29th, 2008
01:49:54 PM
Neeeeehehehehehehheh.
Danny Glover, nothing like talking about blood wings
by krullboyisback
May 29th, 2008
01:51:46 PM
on a movie website. Priceless!
MEN UNITE
by Dark Knight Lite
May 29th, 2008
01:53:25 PM
We cannot allow this atrocity to become #1 at the boxoffice. My wife and I are going back to see INDY on Saturday to do our part in keeping the hags at bay. Even if you didn't like KOTCS, we still need to band together to keep it #1.
Is this Time magazine? Is this the New Yorker?
by Laserhead
May 29th, 2008
01:54:09 PM
Then get off your fucking high horses. If words offed you, then you're CHOOSING to be offended, and other people aren't responsible for adhering to your sensibilities. So shut the fuck up. You're not scoring points with any women who admire your sensitivity. Also, women don't admire sensitivity.
I have a lot of a lot of things
by Laserhead
May 29th, 2008
01:57:08 PM
Am I supposed to be using that lotion on you? You sound concerned.
necgray
by Massawyrm 1
May 29th, 2008
02:13:12 PM
The basis of your argument hinges upon the idea that I've SEEN this show. There's a reason I don't share my feelings on it as I've watched 10 minutes at a time of a handful of episodes on syndicated television. I've been told repeatedly that it is much better with the swears and really offensive stuff. So I gave it a shot. Silly me. You know whats bad form? Attributing malice where none is present.
Laserhead and Node
by Abominable Snowcone
May 29th, 2008
02:18:10 PM
It puts the lotion in the basket. Or it gets the hose.
ROUND 3: COMING UP
by Flying Spaghetti Monster
May 29th, 2008
02:19:35 PM
With Vern against the ropes, can Massa finish the job? Or will SJP carry Vern off into the sunset....stay tuned to find out.
OMFG!!! BUSH IS INVADING IRAN!!!!!!
by BringingSexyBack
May 29th, 2008
02:45:07 PM
Nah - just wanted to lighten the mood here.
"Site wants to be thought of as professional"?
by krullboyisback
May 29th, 2008
02:54:58 PM
Necgray, I am not sure if that is what Headgeek and Fathergeek see as the mission of AICN. . . this site is about movies by people who geek out over movies.. . while many of the contributors are part of the movie making industry, I doubt you will find evidence that Harry wants to be part of the Hollywood establishment
MNG: I FIGURED OUT BRANE'S REAL IDENTITY
by BringingSexyBack
May 29th, 2008
03:00:10 PM
He has got to be Michelle Malkin.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200 80529/ap_on_en_tv/dunkin__donu ts_ad_pulled;_ylt=AgsgDtQtLLFx leSMOXbBrCEDW7oF

SORRY - WRONG TALKBACK
by BringingSexyBack
May 29th, 2008
03:03:48 PM
Politics, not rape.
necgray
by Laserhead
May 29th, 2008
03:04:10 PM
No, just because some movie posters might use AICN review quotes, it doesn't mean you should expect the kind of journalistic impartiality (or the appearance of) one sees in major print journals. This is a big fat guy with a computer who started an internet site. That is, there's a time and place for arguing principles, and expending your energy on this particular fight, in this particular venue, would seem to indicate a fundamental misunderstanding of both the site, its writers, and its fans. You think 'this site wants to be thought of as professional'? Have you noticed that Harry, the guy in charge, has about the same command of the English language as a reasonably intelligent 2nd grader? That the dude can hardly string together a simple, coherent sentence? You're trying to get somebody and something change their basic natures when they have no reason or desire to do so.
Awesome talkback
by Bono Luthor
May 29th, 2008
03:14:42 PM
It's like therapy.
The "controversial" headline
by Lando Griffin
May 29th, 2008
03:17:14 PM
Honestly I did not think "rape" when I read it I thought sex with a menstruating woman AKA Crime Scene Sex (and no that does not imply rape) Everyone who is a frequent visitor to the site knows that the headlines are meant to be humorous and often times contain sexual innuendo, its nothing new. But because humor is subjective it's bound to be misinterpreted and can then be "offensive" to someone. Its too bad there aren't that many female site contributers or talkbackers here to let us know what they thought of the headline. But beyond that their is no such thing as a RIGHT to be offended.

As someone who has visited this site for years we all know what role each site contributer plays. Both Massa and Vern are the contributers who write humourous reviews. There is an audience of talkbackers to cater to. Honestly I see where each of you are coming from however I do consider it to be poor form when one contributer calls out another in the talkback. Sure this place isn't where one comes for , and I am using the term loosely here, "professionalism" but can't there be a little decorum shown. Massa has gotten called out by Mori many a times (I have witnessed this and even tried to engage/moderate the two in a past talkback) and it just reaks of spiteful public flogging, humiliation for the sake of it, unprofessionalism, resentfulness and maybe even a little jealousy. (yeah I said it, ya wanna fight about it?) All because you guys disagreed on a movie or didn't like the other guys review. Seems kinda silly. In regards to Verns "family" analogy - sure you can be ashamed of your family and sure they deserve to be spoken to about it but do you really air your familys dirty laundry in public? It seems like any "beef" you or Mori have with Massa (and I love all three of you guys) should be taken up with, I don't know, Harry - the big cheese, the owner of the site. If you feel Massa to be a poor reflection of this site and thus yourselves by association - why not either take it up with Harry - as by letting Massa continue to write for the site obviously he likes what he brings to the table - or quit the site if you hold your convictions to be just THAT true? Which would be a shame really because all of you have qualities that we all, as talkbackers, enjoy.

I'm not saying that Vern doesn't have a valid point in regards to misogony but unfortunately vern you're not going to win that fight here or any other place on the internet. If you're so ashamed of this place Vern, why stay? I am not telling you or asking you to leave because I really do enjoy your contributions here but I mean its really a personal choice for you - if this place is such a disgrace why bother? Idiot talkbackers aren't going to change just like idiots out in the real world aren't going to. Yes its sad but thats just how life is sometimes.

Never got the answer to this but was wondering what the hell MiraJeff did to get his black box revoked?
DannyGlovers...
by Dark Knight Lite
May 29th, 2008
03:22:44 PM
Really? You hate Indy so badly that you would let the Oprafication of America go unchallenged? I'm sure that there's at least 20 years of difference in our ages, but I was hoping you would know what being a Man really means. Sometimes it means doing something that may be personally painful for a noble cause. Keeping SATC from becoming #1 is just such a cause.
Guys, guys, guys...
by Blue_Demon
May 29th, 2008
03:36:11 PM
Let's be clear, okay?

People you CAN make fun of: The Rich. The White. The Christians. Males. Any combination of these is okay to mock mercilessly.

People you can NEVER make fun of. Ever: Minorities. 'Cause if you do, you're racist. Women...if you do, you're misogynist. Gays. What are you, a homophobe?! Radical Muslims, yep, you're an Islamophobe. The Disabled. That's just wrong (TIMMYYY!) And probably animals. Those PETA people are hardcore.

Necgray, actually you DO have to lay down and take it.
by Laserhead
May 29th, 2008
03:45:28 PM
Take it hard. Also, you meant 'lie', not 'lay.'
I did address your actual point.
by Laserhead
May 29th, 2008
03:51:52 PM
A long time ago. Your point is that you're in a snit. We heard you. Good luck with your snit.
It was a snit--
by Laserhead
May 29th, 2008
04:03:24 PM
--and it described this reviewer's reaction to the movie. His review was his snit. I for one found it a fairly insightful, articulate and entertaining snit, and it's led to a really entertaining talkback. I know that you do not feel the same, but to what ends are your repetitive complaints directed?
HOW ABOUT THIS TITLE: MASSAWYRM TRIES OUT SEX AND THE CITY
by BringingSexyBack
May 29th, 2008
04:13:23 PM
AND WISHES HE REMAINED A VIRGIN!!!!!

Good one! No?

WAIT!
by BringingSexyBack
May 29th, 2008
04:16:03 PM
Make that "AND WISHES HE REMAINED A VIRGIN IN A SMALL TOWN!!!"

There, much better.

Good one, BSB.
by Gilkuliehe
May 29th, 2008
04:21:17 PM
But nowhere near as good as your Bourne sequel written by Diablo Cody. That one made me actually fart.
SEX AND THE CITY 2: ALL THE PRETTY SARAH JESSICAS
by BringingSexyBack
May 29th, 2008
04:22:41 PM
I've met Matthew Broderick. Nice guy, smells good.
THANKS GILKULIEHE
by BringingSexyBack
May 29th, 2008
04:23:28 PM
That's a fave of mine too. "Jeebus!" hehe!
This review and talkback is completely consistent
by Bobo_Vision
May 29th, 2008
04:23:34 PM
...with the tone set at this website. I mean, haven't any of you opposed to misogyny read Harry's DVD picks? Each week normally includes a sexploitation flick. Sometimes they include torture and rape scenes with a short commentary from Harry about it being messed up, but still getting him hard. A few weeks ago there was a alien beastiality porn flick he recommended. Is there anyone here who doesn't yet know that Harry is a complete perv in a deviant way??? Most of us don't comment on the sexploitation flicks because most of us have never seen them.

This is something we've come to expect at this site. The perverted DVD picks and sexually suggestive titles and sometimes explicit reviews which make you cringe. So is anyone here truly surprised by this??? A "Sex in the City" review on this website??? The review and response were completely predictable. So in response to those asking why racist articles or titles are different, its because at this site that is not expected (yet). So when I see an article containing racism with a talkback that follows suit, I'm left saying: "Whoa...what?!!" I'm genuinely surprised and normally disgusted, but in this case this was run-of-the-mill.

I still come to this site nonetheless, so I haven't reached my breaking point or been totally disgusted yet. Or maybe I'm starting to accept it, which can't be good. But, for those of you who claim to be outraged by this, of all the things to be outraged on at this site, I wouldn't have picked this, because this was totally predictable and inkeeping with the website's decorum.

Necgray
by Gilkuliehe
May 29th, 2008
04:26:10 PM
Just give up, bud. I think no one here's up for a genuine debate. Just check the responses I got when I asked if someone considered "bloody and teary sex" funny in any way. I keep refreshing the page to see if there's something worth answering, but nothing. Maybe even Vern gave up... It is depressing. Very.
You articulated your dissatisfaction
by Laserhead
May 29th, 2008
04:26:46 PM
--from that point on, you've been restating your opinion in the face of disagreement, spending time and energy doing that, without any change in the results. The lowbrow response on this TB is a response to a lowbrow movie, as was the review. To answer your question: I suppose I found the language of the review articulate, and insightful regarding the shallow idiocy of the characters and plot, and entertaining in the way it voiced its rancor at these characters being lionized by using hyperbole and, er, colorful expression.
SAMANTHA WANTS TO HAVE SEX WITH SOMEONE OTHER THAN SMITH?
by BringingSexyBack
May 29th, 2008
04:30:29 PM
She's fucking nuts. If she doesn't want him, I'll take him. And I'm not even gay!!!!!!!
the only time on this site i was really disturbed
by Kloipy
May 29th, 2008
04:34:27 PM
was when people were talking about their favorite 'grindhouse' movies and saying things like 'there's this awesome part where this nun gets fucked with a knife! It's AWESOME!"

that was really uncomfortable

DID YOU GUYS EVEN CLICK ON THAT MURDER SET PIECES BANNER AD?
by BringingSexyBack
May 29th, 2008
04:35:58 PM
I fucking threw up, and it was a damned trailer.
Bobo_Vision.
by Gilkuliehe
May 29th, 2008
04:37:33 PM
I disagree. Sexploitaiton is something completely different. First of all is something that's easy to laugh at since it is something we've come to accept as "wrong". With sexploitaiton we expect to find something that will be embarrasing, or that we won't accept, so we find it funny. "Hey, look at how hot the chick in chains is!". And even then, when Harry pulls one of his, hum, "one liners", even then someone gives him at least a little shit about it.

Right now I don't have a particular beef with this review, nor its title. I just find it a little tasteless... What surprised me (and Vern and others) is the incredible amount of bile in the TB. I think this particular talkback is more childish, grotesque and offensive than anyone I've encountered recently, and it does make AICN seem like a sad angry Internet community. And trying to explain this TB I got to the conclusion that the reviewer is at least partially responsible for setting the tone of the "conversation"

I love AICN and that's why this bothers me. I'm starting to feel like a Star Wars fan now. I remember a time when it was great being one... Then suddenly they became cliches and even though one could still love the movies, now it wasn't so proud to say he was a fan. That's how I'm beggining to feel about talkbackers. And the least I can do is say something. Cheers.

I WAS PRETTY DISTURBED BY THE PIC MORBIDOBESITY POSTED
by BringingSexyBack
May 29th, 2008
04:38:58 PM
of him sucking his own dick. Good thing the mods saw fit to remove that offending post.
Hey SJP speak up....stop whispering....
by NoCalFlicks
May 29th, 2008
04:39:26 PM
.....
Danny, it was back when Grindhouse came out
by Kloipy
May 29th, 2008
04:40:43 PM
I can't remember a specific name. But just look up grindhouse in the search.
SEX AND THE CITY SAT ON MASSAWYRM'S FACE
by BringingSexyBack
May 29th, 2008
04:40:49 PM
AND IT SHARTED!!!
Gilkuelhe
by Bobo_Vision
May 29th, 2008
04:47:57 PM
Its okay to be disgusted and hate talkbackers and this site now and again. It means you're normal.
Thanks, Bobo.
by Gilkuliehe
May 29th, 2008
04:52:13 PM
CGhost you got banned for that?
by Kloipy
May 29th, 2008
04:52:53 PM
that's crazy
600 posts, you deserve a badge of honor for that
by Kloipy
May 29th, 2008
04:57:05 PM
not a banning
Well i believe that you did the right thing
by Kloipy
May 29th, 2008
05:01:04 PM
it needed to happen, it happened, and it shall always hold a special place in the land of AICN
was that when you were just a little trickle of dickblood, danny
by Kloipy
May 29th, 2008
05:03:36 PM
do's were da days!
*sniff* they grow up so fast!
by Kloipy
May 29th, 2008
05:07:25 PM
Tom, as usual. Thank you
by Kloipy
May 29th, 2008
05:17:34 PM
Massa
by Vern
May 29th, 2008
05:17:40 PM
When I thought Harry wrote the headline I was about to email him about it, but then I tried to defend you and you proudly took credit for the "vile, despicable" headline. I took that to mean it was fair game to discuss in the talkback. And my beef was as much or more with the talkbackers talking about "dropping a load" in the "sluts" and "whores" and "cunts" and all that shit. But if you think it was out of line for me to debate it in talkback I apologize.

Despite what everybody says here, talkback used to be more than a bunch of dickheads talking hateful, moronic bullshit behind secret identities while their wives were out buying shoes. In fact the people doing that were the minority who everybody hated. Now I'm an outcast for suggesting we could do more than that.

What bums me out is that you guys don't even have a clue what I'm talking about. Danny Glover's Dickblood, by all appearances a courteous young gentleman, thinks I'm talking about cursing and pussy juice. No, it has nothing to do with obscenity or vulgarity. I curse more than you do. There's a difference between saying naughty words and degrading an entire gender or race. I might have to draw up some diagrams and charts for you guys but for now just trust me, they are completely separate issues.

(the post about Hidalgo made me laugh, by the way. I might rent that.)

As for the headline, what is bleeding and crying on a mattress supposed to mean if not rape? Is the movie regretting losing its virginity to you? And why didn't you clarify when I brought it up in the first place?

I don't know man, I agree with you that the headline was despicable, and since everywhere I go people call me "Ain't It Cool News writer Vern" I'm not just gonna ignore it, I'm gonna say something. And I did.

So anyway sorry for ruining all the fun fellas. Anybody heard Carlos Mencia, he says what you WISH you could say. Him and David Duke.

Him and David Duke...
by Blue_Demon
May 29th, 2008
05:22:41 PM
And Al Sharpton, and Louis Farrakhan, and Jesse Jackson and...oh forget it.
Dannyglovers...
by Blue_Demon
May 29th, 2008
05:27:23 PM
We are living in the age of the easily offended. Waaaay too easily offended.
Vern
by Kloipy
May 29th, 2008
05:28:52 PM
I understand what you are saying. You are talking about the all out speech about demeaning women and treating them as nothing more than 'sluts'. Yes in my time on AICN I'm sure I've said some insensitive things in a manner of joking. But most of the time after it and looking back, I've wondered if this was the appearance that I want to show for myself, since it's all over the internet where tons of people who don't know me will see.

What you are saying is what I believe to be that just speaking the words of hate enough starts to grow a seed of actual feelings. It's how racism has lasted so long. I don't think things will really change here because of the open format. But I think I'll try to think of my words before they come back to haunt me. As always I appreciate your voice on this site and on your page as well. I agree that I took the title of this article to be rape. It might have been better if Massa were to stick with the whole rape thing to go with. Massawyrm and the Not so Virgin Spring

Dannyglovers
by Blue_Demon
May 29th, 2008
05:44:54 PM
I think he is trying to compare Massa's use and defense of his title to racist talk. Once you do that, well...that's the argument ender. I think he's saying he has the moral high ground.
I just saw that banner ad...
by Blue_Demon
May 29th, 2008
05:45:57 PM
Man, Brendan Fraser got fat!
Massawyrm, I know you've admitted a mistake ..
by NoDiggity
May 29th, 2008
05:47:01 PM
.. but you WERE dishonest in your reply to Vern about your "joke" headline being a rorschach test, and taking a bad interpretation from it was on the heads of the readers. How exactly can it be taken as anything other than rape? You have to really stretch to find a POSITIVE interpretation of that headline. What kind of loving, mutually enjoyable sex ends with someone (since this is a chick flick, that someone seems more likely to be meant to be female) bleeding and crying on a mattress? And, if you really think it's a mistake, WHY DON'T YOU CHANGE IT NOW.
Vern
by Bobo_Vision
May 29th, 2008
05:49:22 PM
Even though I don't agree with you 100% in this instance, I see what you're saying, and am glad you voiced your dissent on this issue and hope you continue to do so, and I would hope the other moderators would speak up if they sincerely take issue with anything at this site instead of having an 'anything goes' 'lowest denominator' attitude.
NoDiggity...as God is my witness...
by Blue_Demon
May 29th, 2008
05:49:37 PM
I didn't take that headline as a rape joke. I took it for hard sex, or insensitive-bastard-does-a girl-sex. That's it. I swear. Maybe I read it wrong and you're right, but I think it's subjective.
Vern is a sensitive little bitch
by rhcp2sweet
May 29th, 2008
05:53:02 PM
Jesus get off your high horse Vern. If this talkback offends you that much than don't fucking read it. Sure the people on this TB are making some politically incorrect jokes, but it's not like they're being serious, they're just messing around. Danny Glover had it right on when he said that some of the shit Harry writes is just as bad as the stuff on this TB. Just leave it the fuck alone Vern.
My God, I've been following this talkback since the beginning...
by BendersShinyAss
May 29th, 2008
06:44:08 PM
...And it's time to chim in

Personally, I don't mind the show. but thats because ima big fan of seinfeld and this was always felt like it was grounded in the same universe - don't get me wrong, I know there is a big difference in the comedy and formatte, but for all intensive purposes the spirit is the same....

Sort of like how Iron man is in the same universe as Two and a half men.

Is it just me?? Thats ok if it is, I like my little world view. it's safe and rarely do the good guys get hurt.

Which brings me to Massa and Vern......

would you believe I'm on both side here. And i respect that you guys can be on this level of discussion. I can't stand the little fuckers here who miss the point and start cheerleading, but it's aint it cool and I guess we're stuck with it. I've been here since the beginning of AICN and while there are a lot of 'dudes' here, there's a LOT of fucking cockroaches that make me keep changing my shoes or not even entering the premises.

so in finale.... I can't wait to see this film. I love the show. but you really have to watch it consistantly to know and understand and respect the vibe. anyone can hate a show without watching it.... like me with smallville. What a piece of shit!! i refuse to watch it. because it's shit. so i don't watch it, so ill bag it, and ill call people out who do like it, because i know better, because i don't watch it, because it's shit.

Vern, come on now...
by br1947
May 29th, 2008
06:49:31 PM
This whole debate is really idiotic. This is the same "difference between fiction and reality" thought pattern that has people thinking video games are responsible for all violence in the world. It was meant as humor. If Massa had sais something like "I hate this movie, SJP should be raped for being in it" THAT would be offensive, then there is call for outrage. But he didn't, he made a JOKE. It wasn't even blatent, it was implied! Ever watched 'Blazing Saddles?'

Taggart: We'll work up a "Number 6" on 'em.
Hedley Lamarr: "Number 6"? I'm afraid I'm not familiar with that one...
Taggart: Well, that's where we go a-ridin' into town, a whampin' and whompin' every livin' thing that moves within an inch of its life. Except the women folks, of course.
Hedley Lamarr: You spare the women?
Taggart: NAW. We rape the shit out of them at the Number 6 Dance later on.
Hedley Lamarr: Marvelous.

Comedy is fair only when it pulls no punches. Saying even one thing is off limits is creating a standard that sets someone off seperate from everyone else. George Carlin said it best: "I think it's hillarious, how do you like that? I can PROVE to you that rape is funny! Picture Porky Pig raping Elmer Fudd!"
Harvey Korman reminded me of the line
by br1947
May 29th, 2008
06:58:49 PM
Superman raping batman
by BendersShinyAss
May 29th, 2008
07:10:45 PM
Now THAT would be funny.

however superman raping wonder woman would not be.

That reminds me of a joke when superman flies faster than a speeding bullet, in and out again, fucking wonderwoman while she lays spread naked on her bed.

she jumps up in a start and says "what the hell just happened??" to which the invisible man say "I don't know by my ass is really sore all of a sudden"

br1947 hit the nail on the head.
by Blue_Demon
May 29th, 2008
07:20:41 PM
I think of all the times I read the phrase "raped my childhood" on this site, and even the spins on it like, "made sweet love to my childhood" or "fondled my childhood" and wonder how many people in here cried against using a child molestation metaphor to make a point. We KNOW child molestation is horrific. But humor goes through the barriers. It's supposed to. It bends the rules. How many of us were actually horrified at those stupid dead baby jokes we heard in Jr. High? Hell man, I'm Mexican-American and I laugh my ass off at Mexican jokes. And so I leave you with:

How many Mexicans does it take to grease a car?

One, but you gotta hit him just right. ;)

SPOILER ALERT: Mr. Big tells Carrie
by krullboyisback
May 29th, 2008
07:22:55 PM
that he is gay and running away with Steve, Cynthia Nixon's character is sued for defamation of character, is disbarred, and committs suicide at Niagara Falls, Charlotte turns to rubber bondage porn to make ends meet following a nasty divorce, and Samantha decides to have a sex change and become a man
Ghost of Nixon, tell them
by krullboyisback
May 29th, 2008
07:28:08 PM
that Sam will get an "anal transplant" from Carrie, a la Terrence giving Phillip an anal transplant on South Park
Ghost of Señor Nixon, you are a brave man
by br1947
May 29th, 2008
07:29:35 PM
or stupid, depends on if you survive :-)

Even better, tell them they all gave up men and became a 4 way lesbian group.
Yes Ghost of Senor Nixon!!!
by krullboyisback
May 29th, 2008
07:33:01 PM
that is what I am talking about. Tell them that Charlotte's husband, Harry, decides to move the family to a Kibbutz in Israel and Charlotte must decide if she will stay or go
"As for the headline..."
by Iowa Snot Client
May 29th, 2008
07:43:27 PM
Holy shit. Isn't this the same site that endlessly pimped "Hostel" (and Hostel 2) as the second coming of horror? And publishes reviews likening a movie to "skull-fucking Mother Theresa on a pile of stillborn babies?" But this headline is offensive?
clarification for Danny Glover
by Vern
May 29th, 2008
07:59:34 PM
Sorry bud, I was just making a smartass comment about the whole "politically incorrect humor" concept. Carlos Mencia is a corny, unfunny plagiarist but by dressing up in blackface or promoting stereotypes (or pretending to be Mexican) he portrays an image of being "edgy" and people say "he says what you WISH you could say." But my point is you only wish you could say some things if you're an asshole.

Again, just because it's politically incorrect doesn't mean you're not being a huge asshole. That's my whole point. I don't think I need to explain it anymore. I didn't ask for censorship, I didn't say it would cause rape, I didn't say any of the other bullshit people have to pretend I said in order to get mad at me. I just said that to put that rape shit in a headline is an asshole thing to do.

And as for this new argument that it wasn't supposed to be about rape, I would love for an explanation of what it actually refers to. If I understand correctly Massawyrm had consensual sex with the movie THEN beat the shit out of it and left it crying and bloody. Is that the idea?

Reporting live from high atop the horse, this is Vern signing off.

GET OFF THE HIGH HORSE VERN
by BringingSexyBack
May 29th, 2008
08:14:30 PM
Don't you know that's bad for Sarah Jessica's back?

BWAAAAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH AAHAA!!!!!

VERN - DID YOU EVER SEE THAT MURDER SET PIECES TRAILER?
by BringingSexyBack
May 29th, 2008
08:16:30 PM
Now that was fucking offensive. I can't even believe people are making "movies" like that. This is why I watch Dancing With The Stars and Top Chef. I want to see the good in people, not the horrid.
This talkback is having a perverse effect.
by YakMalla
May 29th, 2008
08:33:04 PM
There's so much controversy here, I'm actually now tempted to see this.

Obviously, the average AICNer will hate the film. But we must acknowledge that there are LEGIONS of fans of S&TC, and it makes me curious as to what the appeal is.

Here's my best guess, in AICN speak: Tony Stark's armor is to us as Carrie's thigh high pumps is to them.

Number 1 talkback
by YouAreAllMyBastardChildren
May 29th, 2008
08:33:43 PM
You muthafuckin' bastards. If you weren't already bastards I'd disown you so fast! SO FAST!
Michael Emerson really needs some awards...
by br1947
May 29th, 2008
08:39:58 PM
I would say Emmys, but they are a joke. He needs a GOOD award.
ops, wrong tb...
by br1947
May 29th, 2008
08:40:39 PM
was watchin' Lost...
don't worry, I'm leaving
by Vern
May 29th, 2008
08:47:24 PM
after one last analogy. Everybody here knows why they shouldn't tell their grandma to eat a dick. If they choose to do it they can defend it on artistic grounds. They can pretend it actually doesn't mean to eat a dick and that I have a dirty mind for assuming what it meant was to eat a dick. Feel free to do as you please but personally I'm against it.

Anyway Massawyrm, sorry for the shitstorm, nothing personal, just felt like I had to say something. You can feel free to derail one of my talkbacks too. thanks bud. And that's my final thought, take care of yourselves and each other, etc.

"That movie wasn’t for you"
by Napolean Solo
May 29th, 2008
09:23:57 PM
There, I said it. Sorry, but I'd much more trust an objective review from a fan of the show. If 'objective' would be at all possible.

I think 24 is the best show since sliced bread but if they make a movie out of it, I'll go in there with my film head on and not review it as a tv show because they've taken it out of it's medium BUT I still would have had to be a fan of the show for the review to have any merit because it's not a Charlie's Angels 70's tv remake, it's an extension of a recent series. Once again... That movie wasn’t for you.
i hate this show - i get pussyfied
by messi
May 29th, 2008
09:48:07 PM
fuck that shit. i'm a man. give me predator.
TRIES GET TO IMAGE
by Phategod2
May 29th, 2008
09:51:08 PM
OF TELLING GRANDMA TO "EAT A DICK" OUT OF MY HEAD.
I Agree with Vern.
by NoDiggity
May 29th, 2008
10:30:09 PM
I've been annoyed by "Sex and the City" in the past. But it plays at midnight here on a local channel, weekneights, and if you let it on in the background you start to get to know the characters, and forgive their pettinesses. You start seeing them as people. Which, even if you don't share women's interest in shoes, you ought to do. Massawyrm's headling (and really, the bulk of his revies) expressed a deep, obnoxious, die-hard refusal to see fans of Sex and the City as people. His headline saw them as despised bitches who deserve an violent and humilating rape/abusive-sex act. The bulk of his review concentrated on playing up the HORROR, oh, the HORROR of spending more than an hour and a half doing something that might help him understand the opposite sex. The movie can be bad without introducing the "Women are annoying bitches that we'd like to punish sexually" element, and as funny as it might be on first look, talking about blowing your brains out because of a movie does nothing to inform a reader as to whether the movie has any value at all. I've noted that Massawyrm models his reviews after Harry's style. Harry's shown himself to be an insensitive jerk, very very often. He really shouldn't be emulated. Massawyrm, you have talent. Get it as far away form Harry as possible.
THIS ARTICAL IS BULSHIJT!!
by ebonic_plague
May 29th, 2008
11:13:33 PM
Pull a train? You RUN trains on hoes! Somehow I don't think we'd all be as offended if Massa had left his D&D 4E article on the mattress all crying and bleeding, but, through the magic of movies, not specifically raped. And nobody got (as) mad at Harry for decrying the lack of "dead raped deer" in that one torture porn Hills Have Eyes ripoff/sequel/remake he reviewed. I think the offense comes in because this is a chick flick with "Sex" in the title and Massa's first instinct in denigrating the movie is a rape/brutal sex/unpleasant coupling metaphor. Yeah, Elmer Fudd raping Porky Pig would be funny, but the mental image of a guy raping a dumb chick flick isn't as funny. The context is important. And, if it WAS funny, I'd be more inclined to defend it, but yeah, this whole article comes off as the guy at the strip club who makes disturbingly hateful (and unfunny) jokes about the strippers.
This review
by Tony Is A Little Boy
May 29th, 2008
11:13:55 PM
is one of the funniest fucking things I've ever read. And a life saver.
sounds like a winner
by BurgerKing
May 29th, 2008
11:35:32 PM
Vern's growing up
by BurgerKing
May 29th, 2008
11:46:06 PM
He's becoming too mature for this place. I didn't read all of the arguing, just Vern's long one. The rest are too personal for me to care. But he's got some points, a good wake up call to this fucked up (but lovable) community.

However, while this movie looks self-indulgent, materialistic, shallow, and harmful for our battered society. I dig guy movies that are the same thing on the opposite end of the spectrum, replace materialistic with overly masculine or something and there you go, so I can't really complain. Mass said it well in the review, we do our thing with Star Wars or whatever, the chicks do their thing. Let it be.

I think Massa is a funny guy
by buffywrestling
May 29th, 2008
11:51:55 PM
but I think the jokes were kinda obvious in this one. I actually liked the repetitive writing technique he used to drive home his point about how fucking loooong the movie seemed to him but I was hoping for better jokes than just blah, blah, blah bitchcakes. I think he was on the right track when he started to list things guys would do NOT to see this movie.h
Vern wants his grandma to eat my dick?
by rhcp2sweet
May 30th, 2008
12:51:27 AM
interesting
Good to see this went so far
by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks
May 30th, 2008
01:40:14 AM
Vern is right, I feel ashamed for every horse joke I posted. Still, I'll remember the good times, Capt Harris up SJP' butt doubles ass. Her dopplganger in Nuthin But Trouble, or even when she won Richard Dreyfuss all that cash. Good Times.....
Plant?!!
by psifire
May 30th, 2008
06:20:53 AM
Hahaha, how jaded and cynical can you guys get? Sorry to burst you "plant conspiracy theory" bubble, but contrary to your beliefs, i am not a plant. Last time i checked i was made of flesh, blood, and bones and i just happen to be a fan of the series and the movie. That's why i gave that overview, to bring some blance in the forum. There's too much testosterone in here. I didn't give away plot details and such becuase i saw it before any of you guys did. I didn't get the "we eat plants alive memo" all right, but i sure did get the "we eat spoilers" memo. So lighten up. Geez.
I was waiting for you to stick your head above the
by Lost Jarv
May 30th, 2008
07:33:06 AM
metaphorical parapet.

Plants are people too- we get that, and you are not your job- we also get that. But we do judge you by the content of your post and when your first ever AICN post is something so unsubtle and transparant as that we are going to rip a strip off you.

I used to write Sales Sheets and other marketing puff for a living and even if I was only giving them to buyers/ distributors etc I would have been fucking ashamed to turn in something so utterly sick-making as your first post.

It doesn't matter how many times you say "I'm not a plant" or "I'm trying to give balance", you are doomed simply because of "Because I am definitely going to see this movie again to hang out, laugh with, cry with, and have fun with our girls and our friends Carrie, Miranda, Charlotte, and Samantha. It is because life rarely lives up to our fantasies, and we need friendships that are real or reel to get us through it all."

So give it up, leafy.

Vern, your equivocations don't work
by Laserhead
May 30th, 2008
09:49:07 AM
Postings on AICN do not equal telling your grandmother to eat a dick. One is a victimless transgression, the other victimizes your grandmother. It seems like the only way you can make your argument is through spurious analogies. AND you don't acknowledge that the lowbrow tone of Massa's review was a reaction to a LOWBROW MOVIE; i.e., it was the kind of reaction he felt the movie deserved. WORDS DON'T VICTIMIZE, VERN. Fuck, Mahnola Dargis has all the same criticisms as Massa in her NYTimes review of Sex and the City, but, being AICN, this one features more hyperbolic, transgressive language. Take a thirteenth step off your high horse. Bud.
My respect for Vern has dropped several notches...
by TheGhostWhoLurks
May 30th, 2008
10:18:39 AM
For his continually hypocritical, reactionary and whiny posts accusing people of being misogynistic and/or racist on a website where the guys who RUN said 'site (including Vern) constantly post things FAR worse than the talkbackers he's condemning.

Vern... if you're willing to stomach rape/snuff exploitation films like "Cannibal Holocaust" being on some AICN moderator's "Top 10" lists, then you have ZERO right to complain about people calling SJP a "horseface"... which she IS. Or that the characters on SATC are a group of used-up, self-absorbed, old whores still under the delusion that (1) they're still hot & young and (2) their shallow existences have any meaning.

If the stuff in this talkback offends you, Vern, after ALL the stuff you've tolerated over the years, here, then either SHUT UP or simply QUIT.

I could, at least, respect THAT.

Wow...The Most Polarizing Talkback Ever...
by Bones
May 30th, 2008
10:47:05 AM
Who would have thought it possible?

And over misogynistic comments about SEX AND THE CITY?? On Ain't-It-Cool???

I hate to be the one to break it to everyone, but this site is famous for being the equivalent to a gigantic mass of 14-year old boys taking dirty about movies...It is not the journalistic center of the universe, it is not Film Review, hell--it isn't even Rotten Tomatoes.

Now I agree in part with what both Vern and Massawyrm have said--Rape is NOT FUNNY (sorry there, Rapists--but it is not), nor is brutality against women of any kind (and hwy I am in the minority about Horror Movies). However, making fun of people because of their physical appearance is...because all humor is based on cruelty. That is historical fact--but the defining line is how far you allow yourself to take it. Why are moles on people's faces or people's weight acceptable to ridicule and skin color is not? Because of Cultural Mores.

Mores (mor-ays) are the customs and manners of a social group or culture, NOT THE EELS. Every culture has them. And a lot of humor is based on pushing those boundaries beyond what is considered acceptable. Sarah Jessica parker has an equine face. That is a legitimate adjective which is not insulting--it describes her long face and the pronounced shape of her nose. Equine also means HORSE...and ta-da, "horseface".

Easy joke. And one that is easy to make when you have a wife that has watched every episode of the show, therefore YOU have watched every episode of the show, multiple times. In our household it is as perennial as the 1995 BBC miniseries of Pride and Prejudice--you wince, get caught up in it and then move on.

Massawyrm pushed boundaries (possibly too far--but that goes back to the 14-year-old boy mentality of the site), but his review comes from an honest place--he really didn't like the film. Vern called Massa on his taste, which he has every right to do...and a Culture War erupted right here at the AICN Ranch. But keep things in perspective--This site is a celebration (and condemnation) of things from the viewpoint of "COOL or UNCOOL". It is a way to tap into that youthful energy, and usually is not very PC about it.

But that is all that it is--and after ten years posting on this site, I can say it is also why we like it.

Hit the nail on the head...
by Bono Luthor
May 30th, 2008
11:04:34 AM
"They’re not flirty and single because it’s so hard to find a good man. It’s because they’re all completely self-obsessed, neurotic, high maintenance divas. And I found each and every one of them thoroughly unlikable." Manages what is so thoroughly repugnant about so many women of that generation.
I've already chimed in on another talkback but...
by crankyoldguy
May 30th, 2008
11:46:17 AM
let's just say I don't know one straight male, other than a 'metro-sexual' type at my wife's office who actually wants to see this or is willing to go with the wife/girlfriend. If the quartet in the film stand for all contemporary NYC women have to offer, supposedly vacant L.A. looks really good right now. Where's the crappy Cloverfield creature when you need to it to eat the SATC cast? Mass - 2 and 1/2 hours of your life you don't get back....I feel so bad for you.
Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus
by crankyoldguy
May 30th, 2008
12:16:16 PM
it's clear in this review from Batman-On-Film: This woman (I don't know her age), is quite delusional about men, it seems. SEX AND THE CITY Thursday, May 29, 2008 Author: Christina Han RELEASE DATE: May 30, 2008 STUDIO: New Line DIRECTOR: Michael Patrick King SCREENWRITERS: Michael Patrick King, Candace Bushnell (characters from the book) CAST: Sarah Jessica Parker, Kim Cattrall, Kristin Davis, Cynthia Nixon, et al. OFFICIAL SITE: SEXANDTHECITYMOVIE.COM "Many men do not understand the cult of SEX AND THE CITY." - Christina Han From the exterior, it looks like flashy clothes they don’t quite understand worn by older women who seem to live beyond their means. But just like Superman and Batman, these four women serve as the archetypes of what it means to be modern heroines. They overcome seemingly insurmountable obstacles, possess Achilles’ heels that prevent them from attaining perfection, and wear costumes that are laughable yet intriguing. Where Batman has his utility belt, Carrie Bradshaw and her cohorts wield Louis Vuitton. SEX AND THE CITY -- THE television show -- spanned six years of broken relationships, frank sex talk, and ultimately, friendship. One of the issues critics had with the ending was the fact that after six years of preaching female empowerment, the series finale included all four ingénues in tidy relationships. The film version offers a more realistic conclusion. And without giving anything away, not all of the ladies end up in a relationship. The gratuitous sex scenes the show was known for are present yet they are there for a purpose. Every superhero has a main mission in his or her life and in this case, the mission is love. Now, before you reach for the nearest air sickness bag, SEX AND THE CITY offers enough genuine wit and spark for even the most masculine of audience members. Kim Cattrall as Samantha Jones stands out with her straightforward attitude and sharp tongue. And although the protagonist is supposed to be Sarah Jessica Parker’s Carrie Bradshaw, Cynthia Nixon shines as the acerbic but vulnerable Miranda Hobbes. Miranda has always been the one to roll with the punches on the show, allowing herself to be seen in the most awkward of positions (sometimes literally) and yet getting through everything with sarcasm and a sense of humor. Bradshaw is noticeably prudish for a sex columnist, as the audience has never truly viewed her in any sexual situation. Even the scenes of her affair with Mr. Big were stylistically sensual, but no skin was shown save for some navel and a collarbone. Cynthia Nixon and Kim Cattrall have always been the ones to portray sex the way it really is…sometimes great, sometimes not, and always what it really looks like when your body isn’t Hollywood perfect but it can do some awesome things. The movie is a visual extravaganza with a wedding, couture, and the Manhattan skyline. There are bigger than life characters -- like Mr. Big -- whose name is revealed to be John James Preston. Mr. Big has grown into a caring and sympathetic man who truly cares about Carrie and no one can deny the chemistry between Parker and Chris Noth. But... The glue of the group has always been Kristin Davis’ Charlotte, and it’s truly rewarding to see her finally happy and settled. Whether she will remain to be so up to the mind of the audience member. Her role has always been the romantic optimist who perseveres despite all negativity. Davis delights with her cheerful blend of idiosyncrasies and empathy in her position as the heart amidst the sex. New York City has rarely looked as beautiful onscreen and Michael Patrick King wrote a heartfelt script with the care that comes from being well acquainted enough to showcase the cast’s talents with complexity and depth. These characters are flawed, but they live in world that is just magical enough to take you away from our reality. And even though they go out and take on their universe every day, they are relatable because you know that they come home to stacks of bills and crying babies. The world may not have many female superheroes besides Wonder Woman and Batgirl, but there are four intimate heroines named Carrie, Charlotte, Miranda, and Samantha who invite us to go along with them on their mission to believe in love. Christina Han is a writer from Southern California. Her work has been published in publications such as Jane Magazine and she is currently a press deputy for the Clinton campaign. She is working on her first book and wants to marry Batman.
CHOCOLATEREIGN
by BringingSexyBack
May 30th, 2008
01:28:01 PM
First of all, I only post my subject lines in caps. That's my signature move, if you will. Lots of people have them. Excuse me, but I strive for a sense of individuality and try not to follow the herd. If it bothers you so much, consider your protestation duly logged and noted. I hope that gets you through the weekend.

Secondly, I don't have "online arch-enemies". That's just silly.

Thirdly, I was talking about Samantha, and not Carrie. And if you watched the show at all, you'd see where I was getting at. You see, in Samantha's life, Smith was the best thing to ever happen to her, the best man she ever met. A hottie who wants nothing from her and only wants to give what little he has, because he loves her unconditionally. He was a nice guy in a sea of assholes. But because of her experiences and insecurities, that made her fear him. She, along with the rest of "the girls", had flaws just like most women. To a man watching this show, it gives you a lot of insight into real women, despite whatever perceptions that these characters don't resemble real women. I think they do, even if remotely. So my comment reflects my opinion that Samantha, after realizing Smith was the best thing to happen to her, is crazy if she risks that away again.

And even if you don't care about that explanation, it's for the benefit of one or two fans of the show in this talkback. So there.

Wow.
by The-Duke-of-New-York
May 30th, 2008
01:47:07 PM
For the record, the first thing I thought when I read the headline was "cherry popped". Which in incongruous to the SEX girls, but whatever. But anyway, to the heart of the matter.Sex and the City will never see a fucking dime from me. It's convinced several women of a certain generation that its okay to be terrible to other people and use the vagina as a weapon. In fact, Entourage, having never seen it, seems like generally the same thing except with "fame" replacing "vagina". So, in summary, fuck every show that glorifies shallow behavior. On the other topic in the talkback, Massa and Vern are two of my favorite reviewers on the site. Vern is probably my favorite film critic period. But on this, I think he might be wrong, on parts. Massa wrote a review that I think many readers of the site wanted, the reaffirmation of their belief in the unholiness of SEX. And sex, for those whose inner prudes aren't reflected by their misogynistic and crude exteriors. And as a fan of chick flicks myself, at least in a broad sense, I can understand going to see that movie expecting to be entertained in at least a base kind of way. Sure, he could have made the headline clearer, or gone with something else, but I don't really think Massa is a rapist, at any rate, and I would even bet he doesn't advocate rape unless its one of those kinky fantasies where he's tied up and at the mercy of a busty supervillainess. On the other hand, Vern's right about this: Just because you're edgy, or trying to be, doesn't mean you aren't a dick. There is room for real discussion on the talkbacks. And it does happen from time to time. One thing's for sure, though. The "Bratz left out in the sun" comment is gold.
If you watch this movie you are GAY!
by Leafar the Lost
May 30th, 2008
03:02:52 PM
If you are a man, and you willingly watch this movie, then you are gay. This movie is for straight women and homosexuals only. It is not a date movie. Also, the HBO series was an overrated piece of crap.
Bones
by YakMalla
May 30th, 2008
03:35:28 PM
"Most polarizing talkback ever"?

This is a love fest compared to the bitchfest over Neill Cumpston's Cloverfield review.

To wit: http://tinyurl.com/yqelvg

I broke up with my girlfriend cos of this movie
by messi
May 30th, 2008
05:21:18 PM
so I wouldn't have to take her. Fuck that.
BEST AND MOST HONEST REVIEW IN THE HISTORY OF ALL MANKINF
by PR1C3Y
May 30th, 2008
07:40:31 PM
Well Gotham Night we know what you'd rather but just take what y
by PR1C3Y
May 31st, 2008
01:41:37 PM
Wow Messi
by Lost Jarv
Jun 2nd, 2008
03:18:18 AM
That's the most stupid thing I've ever seen anyone post.

Congrats.

As an actual real live woman
by kinksy
Jun 2nd, 2008
03:44:45 PM
who reads this site I can say that the headline didn't offend me in the slightest. I interpreted as Massa felt his eyes and senses were raped from seeing this POS.
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