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by mrfan
May 26th, 2008
04:52:45 AM
Should be good
Gene Colan
by mrfan
May 26th, 2008
04:53:57 AM
Best wishes to him. One of my favorite Iron Man, Daredevil, and Dracula artists.
Damn you IndustryKiller!
by IndustryKillers Bain
May 26th, 2008
06:19:40 AM
Damn you IndustryKiller!
Damn You Michael Bay
by MCMLXXVI
May 26th, 2008
07:14:00 AM
Damn You Michael Bay
Talkbacks really bring out the loons, don't they.
by raw_bean
May 26th, 2008
09:05:26 AM
Mr 1976 with his tireless if somewhat impotent crusade against Michael Bay, some guy who seemingly wants to inflate the ego of IndustryKiller as though it wouldn't be easier just to ignore him if he bugs you, and testricals who never adds anything to a talkback other than 'Spaced was shit', apparently labouring under the delusion that if he repeats it often enough it'll become truth.

All that, and all the news this week is DC related and I don't read much of anything of theirs. Oh well, might as well enjoy the bank holiday with some beers with my brother.

new JL team.......
by sonnyhooper
May 26th, 2008
09:30:15 AM
.......looks rather....eclectic. actually i understand GL and GA, and i guess batwoman and supergirl work as placeholders for the icons, and ray plamer is a JLA mainstay. but then you get shazam jr., alien starman and congrilla? wtf? seems like shazam jr. is only there because he gave elvis his hair style, and alien starman is obviously there because of robbisons affinity for the character, but congrilla? thats a head scratcher...i mean...congrilla? ....really? wow. just wow. it almost seems like maybe someone has been reading too much league of extraordinary gentlemen and just wanted an "mr hyde type" for the team.
Congorilla?
by Pogue Mahone
May 26th, 2008
10:04:11 AM
Actually... I often enjoy it when a writer will take a more obscure character and place him or her amongst the bigger hitters. We see facets of the big gun's characters that we might not have seen otherwise and when the writer is of someone like Robinson's calibre then these lower tier characters can grow and shine like they've never had the opportunity to before. One of my favourite characters in Daredevil right now is private eye Dakota North. I wish Brubaker would do more with her. I've been a fan since her original series back in the 80's. Damn. I'm old.
FINAL FUCKING CRISIS IN 2 DAYS!!!
by kingben
May 26th, 2008
02:33:57 PM
final crisis is going to be the shit to end all shits. The Filth mushed together with the DCU with grant morrison's shit on top. i can't fucking wait!!!
Can't answer the question because...
by V'Shael
May 26th, 2008
03:22:27 PM
Not reading Brand New Day.

Wasn't there a LOT of people who said they'd drop the title because of that shite?

well sure pogue......
by sonnyhooper
May 26th, 2008
08:23:57 PM
.....it's always nice to see a writer take a obscure character and give them new life. but at some point you get to scraping th bottom of the barrel and a writer is just bringing some characters back out of pure nostalgia. all i'm saying is congorilla might be the litmus test in this case. as it is, i think the level of "heavy hitters", or "a-list" characters, is much smaller than most fans would like to believe: in fact, outside of batman, superman, spider-man and one could argue wonder woman, thats it, thats the list. every other character is b list and below when you really think about it. my point being that if robinson wants to make up a team of b, c, and z list characters thats fine, i just don't know if using the name "justice league" is the best (or most honest) way to sell it. if that line up was the new..... "outsiders", or "doom patrol", or "seven soldiers of victory" then fine, sure, i can see that. but the justice league? come on. and please don't miss understand me, i don't mind the obscure character love, i just mind the idea of DC slapping the "justice league" name on any old "team" book to make as many sales as possible. "jla classified" being a prime example of what i'm talking about.
DC seems to suck more than Marvel these days...
by Big Dumb Ape
May 26th, 2008
08:30:08 PM
Seriously, the All-Star books come out...oh, who the hell can even tell anymore. But hey, it's "in support of the creators so they can do their best work", but frankly who wants to get emotionally involved in anything that comes out THAT erratic -- or to be frank, all because the creators are REALLY off doing something else, and now they need a spare check, so they figure "Oh screw it, let's just do another issue of this now."

Seriously, that's how a book like ASTRO CITY lost me early on. Kurt Busiek would whine about how tough it was to get the book out...how it was such a labor of love and it took so much time and thought...but, gee, funny thing: he had no problem meeting any of his Marvel deadlines (and collecting royalties off those babies) to make sure he had his mortgage check or whatever. And every time I'd go looking for ASTRO, I couldn't find it -- but damned if I couldn't find Busiek writing yet another Marvel project or new miniseries. And I HATE that about modern comics. As a long time fan, I fucking HATE when creators try to hide behind the now groan-inducing"I'm making art here!" excuse, when the truth is they suddenly get a bit hot... the phone starts to ring... they then take on too much work... they then spread themselves too thin... deadlines don't get met... and worst of all BECAUSE they took on too much work, the actual quality of the books now suffer too.

Personally, DC lost me with the whole 52 stunt. "Hey, buy this for 52 weeks! We flashed forward and now we'll retroactively fill you in. Uh...you just have to give us your money weekly so we can make even MORE money now." So you get suckered in and THEN you get to the end, at which point the official line suddenly becomes "What's that? Did we say we'd fill you in after 52 weeks? Oops. Our bad because NOW you're gonna have to buy this OTHER shit off to the side TOO in order to get the whole story." That's when I said DC could kiss my ass and not count on my wallet anymore. That was just ridiculous.

Sorry to be so cranky, but I'm old enough to remember when Roy Thomas and Neal Adams (with a final issue by John Buscema) managed to tell the original great Kree-Skrull War story in Avengers 93-97 and STILL make it epic. What's with these guys today that it takes 52 weeks...a whole year...to get a damn story across? Oh, that's right, I forgot. Everyone thinks they're the next big FILMMAKER, so we get "storyboard comics" where the writer/artist think repeated panels where all that happens is the camera stays locked on a face (for example) and all that moves are the character's eyes or something like that to (supposedly) convey the emotion of the moment. In the meantime, in the glorious Lee & Kirby days, they'd get the same damn point across in one simple panel!

But more importantly Testricals...
by LordPorkington
May 26th, 2008
09:08:25 PM
You're a stupid cunt.
V'Shael (RE: Can't answer the question)...
by MisterE
May 26th, 2008
10:35:54 PM
V'Shael, I dropped Spider-man so hard that I didn't even know there was a question.
Big Dumb Ape
by fiester
May 26th, 2008
10:39:08 PM
He makes some very, very good points. The tendency for modern comics to make every storyline into a Dragonball-Z fight length epic is not something readers want to see. In the past an epic event arose organically, from the story itself. Now they are manufactored to move product and it shows.

The second major problem is ret-conning. How can I ever find anything interesting or invest any sort of interest in these stories if you're just gonna shake the Etch-A-Sketch every year and start fresh, if anytime someone "dies" it's only until sales lag enough to bring that character back. The shameful Spider-Man fiasco makes everything that came before moot. It's like ending a story with "But it was all just a dream...." PEOPLE HATE THAT! Cripes. I am still pissed off from when they brought Jean Grey back from the dead the first time--telling me the original Dark Phoenix Saga, widely considered some of the finest comics ever, was all for nothing because it wasn't really Jean the whole time anyway, that she had been frozen underwater for the past few years or some other stupid nonsense. Arrrgh.

Brand New Day
by DuncanHines
May 26th, 2008
10:44:32 PM
I dropped Amazing Spider-Man after One More Day ended so incredibly stupidly. But, I am buying the current arc because it is really really really hard to pass up a Spider-Man story drawn by Marcos Martin. And guess what- it's actually really good. They did some ballsy shit, nullifying the past 20-or-so odd years of Spidey continuity, and then making the book more readable and feature terrific artists.
Also, on the topic of late books...
by DuncanHines
May 26th, 2008
10:52:14 PM
Is it really still that big a deal to people? I go get comics every week. I buy whatever comes out that week that I read. Things are usually solicited to ship after they are finished being created. Most books are not usually later than they are solicited for anymore. The All Star books are good. I really don't care how late they are, because whenever they arrive it's a treat in with the rest of what comes out on a regular basis. Or, maybe I just read too many comics and it's all a blur anyway...
late books don't bother me...
by sonnyhooper
May 27th, 2008
04:36:27 AM
...either. of course i read only DC stuff so it's only really an issue with the all-star books. all star superman is worth it because ever issue gives you a warm fuzzy feeling, and is always the best written book in whatever month it happens to come out. all star batman is worth it because it's fucking hysterical, like a 90's image comic it's big, dumb, over the top, fun. reading ASB&RTBW, makes me feel like porky pig in that cartoon where he rolls around on the ground, laughing his ass off, watching daffy duck pretend to be "robin hood".
on Late Books
by optimous_douche
May 27th, 2008
11:03:22 AM
I also simply buy what is on the shelves each week.

But someone mentioned earlier in the TB that comics are serial in nature.

A few eeks is one thing, but when books are months late you lose the suspense (e.g. Runaways) and if you are like most collectors and read more than one title, when the late issue you comes out you have to go back and reread the past issues.

Publishing houses need to kick open the doors and bring in new talent istead of having teh same 12 superstars create books.

FINAL CRISIS!!!!
by messi
May 27th, 2008
03:00:08 PM
The Day Evil Won is Here.
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