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by Mezzanine
May 20th, 2008
02:59:38 AM
But who cares? Argento is done. Has been for a while.

by rubbiboy
May 20th, 2008
02:59:46 AM
love the beard ;p
is harry thin yet?
by teddy_duchamp
May 20th, 2008
03:00:27 AM
a pile of shit has a thousand eyes
is harry thin yet?
by teddy_duchamp
May 20th, 2008
03:00:28 AM
a pile of shit has a thousand eyes
Brody rockin' the fucking goatee
by caruso_stalker217
May 20th, 2008
03:22:30 AM
I don't even care what the movie's about. Brody with or without facial hair is worth watching. Fuck, he could be in a movie where he doesn't even having a fucking FACE and I'll watch it!
Brody and Argento? Who can resist?
by Knuckleduster
May 20th, 2008
03:58:48 AM
Fuck, it's called Giallo. As long as he stays true to the genre, there's no way this won't be awesome.

I hope.

I felt the same about Argento but....
by Boba Fat
May 20th, 2008
04:24:00 AM
Mother of Tears! Jesus Christ all fuckin mighty! I really do love him and his earlier works and will even defend "Sleepless" as a return to form. So, yes I was excited about MOT and seeing the end of a trilogy that Includes "Inferno" his masterpiece. But, what a load of old shit. I felt embarrassed watching it. It even ends with the surviving characters pissing themselves laughing like they've just played an joke on you with film you just sat through... I'll still see this though.
Let's hope....
by Charlie & Tex
May 20th, 2008
04:44:18 AM
Argento has been paddling the shallows of his career for God knows how long now, and he even scored a duck with the final part of the Three Mothers trilogy, but with more attention focused on him because of the cast he has this time, he might get off of auto-pilot for the first time in nearly 20 years. Non Ho Sonno was pretty damn good, but it's a hell of a long time between decent movies.
Smart slate.
by Dokkalvar
May 20th, 2008
05:08:15 AM
I guess they like to sync sound the hard way :-/
Whoopee
by Lost Jarv
May 20th, 2008
05:20:33 AM
and anyone criticising this great news can fuck off. Do you really want more Saw/Roth/Captivity Torture Porn dreck.

Bad Argento is still light years better than anything Roth or his equally dim witted cohorts could produce.

Argento didn't write it, Awesome
by fisheater
May 20th, 2008
05:43:16 AM
Hopefully the plot will make more sense, of course who gives a fuck. At least Argento makes interesting films despite a decent plot. Fuck you Michael Bay
Argento is a force of nature
by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks
May 20th, 2008
05:54:26 AM
he's the guy Roth, and even Romero would like to be.
You have a point, Jarv.
by DocPazuzu
May 20th, 2008
06:07:11 AM
There was once I time when I heaped abuse upon Argento as well as Carpenter and Craven on these boards for having turned into hacks, but after the recent slew of abysmal nu-horror and torture porn shitfests, all is forgiven.
Damn you, George Lucas!
by Motoko Kusanagi
May 20th, 2008
06:29:39 AM
Damn you to hell!
Yeh, Argento is and always will be awesome...
by Seph_J
May 20th, 2008
06:47:24 AM
... regardless of the crap he's made.

He is a great example of how someone can be SO SO SO SO GOOD, and then, for no apparant reason, mind-achingly bad.

I ALMOST PRAY for a Suspiria 2... and I don't mean another 'three mothers entry'... I mean SUSPIRIA 2... as in, back at the dance academy... Susy Banyon, crazy colours, airport doors signalling music cues, blind pianists (hell get Brody for that part).... and some creepy ass snoring in the dance hall at night - with big shadows cast on the dividers.

Suspiria is a masterpiece. And Suspiria 2 from Argento is about the only horror sequel to a classic I'd ever want.

Doc
by Lost Jarv
May 20th, 2008
06:52:37 AM
I watched Vampires last night, and although it is very, very minor Carpenter it is still fucking miles ahead of almost any of the shit masquerading as horror nowadays. When will these people learn that making you wince is not the same as making you scared?
Adrien Brody
by CuervoJones
May 20th, 2008
07:08:51 AM
He will stab you...WITH HIS NOSE!
Damn you, George Lucas! is not
by CuervoJones
May 20th, 2008
07:10:55 AM
the new DAMN YOU, MICHAEL BAY. You can´t beat a classic.
I know what you mean, Jarv.
by DocPazuzu
May 20th, 2008
07:15:56 AM
I had a huge flame war with cocolopez over Carpenter a few years ago, but at this stage I'd even defend Ghosts of Mars.
Ghosts of Mars is a tough one to defend
by Lost Jarv
May 20th, 2008
07:20:25 AM
Ice Cube, Natasha Henstridge and another reimagining of whatever he based Precinct 13 on.

The only Carpenter effort (and I include memoirs of an invisible man- even though he was blatantly the wrong director for it, and Starman) that is completely hopeless is Escape from LA.

Escape from LA...
by DocPazuzu
May 20th, 2008
07:25:27 AM
...was the particular point of contention between me and cocolopez. I held that it was unmitigated shit, whereas he praised its crapness as some sort of sly satire of modern action sequels.
I seem to remember this-
by Lost Jarv
May 20th, 2008
07:30:45 AM
His thinking was that it was Carpenter deliberately sabotaging the studio system that was forcing him to make it.

Complete crap- the proof that he is full of shit is the really dreadful surfing sequence.

I've had some weird arguments on horror over the years
by Lost Jarv
May 20th, 2008
07:34:46 AM
The ones that really stand out are: when LaserPants thought that Hostel was some sort of sly social satire, whereas I maintain that is crediting that unmitigated dickhead Roth with far too much intelligence; and with Roland about Dawn the original being far superior to the remake.
MOTHER OF TEARS was pure fun!
by CardPlayer
May 20th, 2008
07:43:39 AM
This film looked like an italo exploitation film from the 70's!!! Great gruesome murders,boobs,fast pace and crazy ideas everywhere! Flawed of course (weak CGI...),but i loved it! GIALLO can be fun too...wait and see!
I rented Trauma a few weeks ago
by skimn
May 20th, 2008
08:00:48 AM
and quit half way through because I was bored to tears. Did I give up on this too early, or is it one of his misfires? Did love the '70s casting of Piper Laurie and Fred Forrest tho.
Susperia fecked me up!
by FILMFUNK
May 20th, 2008
08:19:29 AM
This looks cool with him in it in fact I wish this was a still From Bad Leutenant and Brody was Doing it rather than Cage! then it might be good. Are the goblins still involved with Argento?
I owe Argento my life.....
by JeanLuc Dickhard
May 20th, 2008
08:27:03 AM
it's because of him that i'm alive, so what ever he puts out i wil always support .... thank you mr Argento...
Damn You Michael Bay
by MCMLXXVI
May 20th, 2008
08:46:30 AM
Damn You Michael Bay
On looking forward to new Argento films...
by Neosamurai85
May 20th, 2008
09:36:01 AM
"Just when I thought I was out... they pull me back in." I really like the idea of a solid horror movie with Brody in it. You know, this is any good, he could really pass as Asia's older brother in another horror movie. That could be some pretty interesting chemistry.
Does this have anything to do with the strike?
by Neosamurai85
May 20th, 2008
09:41:38 AM
Doubting it, since this is up Bordy's alley of weird side films. But I'm kinda wondering if one off shoot of the strike will be American actors working more foreign films. Are generation needs some Anthony Quinn types.
just saw a trailer for Mother of Tears
by Datascream
May 20th, 2008
10:49:35 AM
definitely a DTV. What a waste. Or is the movie actually better then the trailer implies?
Datascream
by Boba Fat
May 20th, 2008
10:56:19 AM
I know it's had some love in the talkback but to me it's pretty poor, up there with his worst. I wish I could say different, as fan of his work, but it's a stinker.
Hopefully
by kafka07
May 20th, 2008
11:46:29 AM
this will be good, I love love love giallo films. Also I hope it will trigger emulations by other filmmakers. Here's to the return of the giallo!
Datascream and MOTHER OF TEARS
by CardPlayer
May 20th, 2008
01:05:25 PM
MOTHER OF TEARS received mixed reviews,some people liked it very much,some people disliked it,but IMO the film is really entertaining,gory fun. Some of the acting and the CGI effects aren't too good but there are cool nasty murders and nice locations...the film is much better IMO that some of Argento's last disappointing works (SLEEPLESS,PHANTOM OF THE OPERA...) Just don't expect the vivid lightning and dreamy worlds of SUSPIRIA and INFERNO and you'll enjoy it!
Argento vs. Fulci
by Prossor
May 20th, 2008
02:29:34 PM
on this neverending debate i would have to choose.... NO ONE! seriously both have good and bad things about them. People say Argento is a lot better but theres some unoriginality in there, just how many times can he film people heads smashing through glass? Fulci's filmography has less good stuff than Argento's, but Fulci's good stuff is REALLY good. Zombi 2 in my opinion, i like even more than Dawn of the Dead which was an unofficial Italian sequel to it. Ooh also let's not forget Deodato with Cannibal Holocaust, tha was sick stuff, and let's not forget the other great horror guys Lenzi Jacopetti Prosperi Climati Morra Cavara Margheriti Mattei D'Amato Martino Tarantini
I am overwhelmed with "meh"
by tylerzero
May 20th, 2008
03:01:20 PM
What's this is about..?
by Aethyrr
May 20th, 2008
03:21:50 PM
And I meant the movie not the article..
by Aethyrr
May 20th, 2008
03:22:45 PM
i am overwhelmed with "meh"...
by birdy birdman
May 20th, 2008
05:27:17 PM
go hang out at chud you fucking cynical manatee, this looks sleazy. which is perfect, argento is as argento does.
FULCI
by ClockWorker
May 20th, 2008
05:58:22 PM
the guy just takes his gore to a purely ridiculous level which compromises the integrity of his scenes.
that frame with the birds in the background
by ClockWorker
May 20th, 2008
10:41:16 PM
is pure argento, this is gonna be good
Fulci...
by DocPazuzu
May 21st, 2008
01:21:17 AM
...may be more hamfisted than Argento, but I find his stuff to be much more entertaining. His Zombie and The Beyond are awesome cheese masterpieces.
Cannibal Holocaust is a vile movie
by Lost Jarv
May 21st, 2008
02:19:32 AM
arguably the father of both the mocumentary shite passing itself off as horror (Blair witch leaping to mind) and Torture Porn. It isn't even that good- it's just nasty.
Mother of Tears US screenings.
by Lutz
May 21st, 2008
02:26:42 AM
Official US site is up www.motherof tearsthemovie.com
Lost Jarv
by Neosamurai85
May 21st, 2008
10:45:27 AM
Cannibal Holocaust is one of those annoying that set too many precedents to be forgotten, but yeah, I kinda wish we could too. I mean there a are a lot of things that did work in the film quite well. I almost want to love it, but then it turns around and not only does something mind blowingly fucked up, but does it so unintelligibly for the sake of that you want to throw something at the screen. All that said, torture porn it is not. At least as I'd define it. Cannibal horror is it's own fucked up genre all to itself, and it's one I don't miss. There's not really any Torture per se in Cannibal. I looked it over while writing a grad paper on torture horror, and found nothing but a big mess o rape and some unpleasant mutilation. To call the dismembering torture porn would mean also throwing films like Dawn of the Dead in the mix. So no, it's not torture porn by the general understanding I'd say. As far as I can tell it did kick off the docuhorror genre, which is modern continuation of the epistolary writing style that was popular in Gothic literature (best example being Dracula).
Pics taken down?
by Roderick Usher
May 21st, 2008
11:44:14 AM
Why? It's not like they revaled anything. Got to admit Brody looked sweet with the goatee - like a young Giancarlo Giannini. This one's gonna be good. *crosses fingers* Let's hope JOHN CARPENTER'S L.A. GOTHIC (from the same writers) goes into production soon.
Fuckin Deep Red People!
by Yo_SheBitch
May 21st, 2008
03:48:54 PM
Suspiria, The Bird with the Crystal Plumage, Opera... Argento is a genius! Even his Masters of Horror episode "Pelts" had something new to offer - lesbian cum on the lips anyone? I'll definitely be there to see this!
I hope he casts his daughter...
by Logan_1973
May 21st, 2008
06:55:59 PM
more importantly, her boobs.
Uh... Logan_1973
by Neosamurai85
May 22nd, 2008
01:26:12 AM
Don't forget you're talking about Dario. I for one would not like him to cast Asia's boobs without her. That would be messy. And the last time a movie promised a bucket of bloody tits on this site... memory's a bit foggy, but I recall that movie sucked. Not bloody tits, mind you, just plain old sucked. So if sucking the bloody tits is your thing (to each there own bro) than it's still probably gonna be a lose-lose situation. But yeah, I always enjoy Asia in a horror movie.
Neosamurai85
by Lost Jarv
May 22nd, 2008
06:01:01 AM
I entirely agree with everything in that post. I don't for a second think it is Torture Porn- when I said the father of (arguably), I meant that without the nastiness then the film would have no reason to exist- and this is the standard that I hold TP to- Would it work without the sadism? if the answer is no, then you have TP.
regarding Dawn-
by Lost Jarv
May 22nd, 2008
06:19:46 AM
My point being, if you took the dismemberments out of Dawn would it still work? I think so, so therefore is not TP. The mutilation/ chomping should be incidental to the horror, it should not be the driving force of the story.

There is a whole bucketload of Cannibal movies of which I'm pleased to say I've only seen a few- and I reckon Holocaust is probably the nastiest, but bizarrley, also the best.

I still wouldn't recommend anyone watching it though- the Animal deaths are too much.

Except
by Neosamurai85
May 22nd, 2008
09:37:56 AM
Besides some over the top acting. I think the film would still work without the excessive rape and toning down the animal violence. The hard part would be losing the Turtle death because it legitimized their gore pallet. When the people die their guts look like the turtle's so the viewer things, "I know THAT was real, so is this real also?" Goes without saying I'm against the animal death, but that's where you might have me on this.
I don't think it would
by Lost Jarv
May 22nd, 2008
11:09:13 AM
If you substitute a fake turtle for a real turtle and removed all the gore from that film you're left with a clever mocumentary that completely fails as a horror film. The gore is essential to ellicit the reaction of disgust and fear from the audience

Great chat, man, hope to see you in another TB

Cannibal Holocaust- greatest movie ever???
by Prossor
Jun 1st, 2008
09:42:59 PM
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