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The Unicorn And The Wasp!! Doctor Dan And His Fellow Britishers Want To Tell You About DOCTOR WHO 30.7!!

Adama leads the way. by Adama77	May 17th, 2008 03:57:46 PM
What, I'm first? How'd that happen? For once I agree with the critics. My fellow Brits are a little over enthusiastic usually, especially over the Sontaran story... This one was actually rather good. For once the WHOLE WORLD wasn't in jeopardy. Sometimes WHO is at it's best when kept small.
New Who by Nortimus	May 17th, 2008 03:58:28 PM
Has been delivering on a consistent and excellent basis, and this season has been no exception, minus a couple of small qualms here and there. I'm excited for this ep.
erm... by RaveX	May 17th, 2008 04:09:30 PM
"David Tennant is very good, as usual -- as captivated around Agatha Christie as he was around Charles Dickens in The Unquiet Dead" WHAT?!?
we get moffitt episodes soon.. by palewook	May 17th, 2008 04:09:36 PM
yay
Well, The Handsome 12th Doctor, Kelvington said......... by axcel1	May 17th, 2008 04:09:51 PM
It was near perfect. I guess he beat you to the punch!!!
KNOCK KNOCK by jacksparness	May 17th, 2008 04:16:59 PM
Who's There?
Doctor... by jacksparness	May 17th, 2008 04:17:16 PM
Doctor Who?
You Just Said It by jacksparness	May 17th, 2008 04:17:34 PM

The irony of that by The Handsome 12th Doctor	May 17th, 2008 04:18:01 PM
I forgot about the perfect line. The irony of it is I did think the episode was actually perfect.
God help me! by BiggusDickus	May 17th, 2008 04:23:53 PM
...that Tate woman is actually growing on me!
I'm just awaiting the attack of the gay haters by carefulsilly	May 17th, 2008 04:24:08 PM
Oh you can't help yourselves... I bet you were chewing at the bit when the closeted gay men were alluded to. Smashing episode though, I'm a huge Christie fan and Fenella was superb. I thought they were going to explain away her disappearnce with a few adventures with The Doctor and Donna. Shame. That wasp was corking, the effects are so much better this year. No WHO next week instead we get the camp bollocks that is Eurovision. Jesus...
Eurovision by Harrow	May 17th, 2008 04:29:13 PM
is the best thing ever! I have a vodka bar booked for my biggest Eurovision piss-up yet, for about 100 of my mates to get drunk and laugh at foreigners. Reckon Ukraine have the best chance of winning, but have also backed Sweden, and have sneaky each way bets on Croatia, Bosnia (AMAZING!) and Spain. Oh and although the majority of its fans are gay, there's something for us straight viewers too: namely Malta, Ukraine, Armenia, Greece, Czech Republic, and Bulgaria. Oh and Dr Who was quite fun!
Eurovision by The Handsome 12th Doctor	May 17th, 2008 04:32:46 PM
The most annoying thing about losing Who to Eurovision next week is that it's completely unnecessary. Eurovision begins at 8pm, so there'd be ample time to show Who before then.
no eurovisio... by RaveX	May 17th, 2008 04:37:16 PM
...will be able to beat last year's "vampires are alive" as the biggest WTF moment EVER! oh, and since I live at the eastern border of croatia, there is an actual chance for me to take a 2 hour trip and blow all of those idiots up. /flips a coin
No gay hate this time... by spud mcspud	May 17th, 2008 04:37:20 PM
Anyone who's (a) gone to a boys' public school in the UK or (b) read any fiction from the 1920s will know that hidden homosexuality was widespread amongst the upper classes in the 1920s. So - for once, the gay agenda was JUSTIFIED! Oh, and that episode rocked. Jolly hockey sticks, much fun, spiffing what ho? Great fun, Fenella Woolgar was EXACTLY as I'd have expected Agatha Christie to be, and the whole thing was fun. Bit of an underwritten ending, but you can't have everything. Definitely my favourite this season, along with POMPEII. Next week: BRING ON THE MOFFAT!
carefulsilly by spud mcspud	May 17th, 2008 04:39:51 PM
You start criticising the "gay haters" then refer to Eurovision as "camp bollocks"? Either you think you're being ironic and funy, or have no clue what you just said. Either way, you came off as a bit dumb. Or, you're a self-loathing gay hater :D
The Doctor HASN'T Actually Kissed All His Companions... by Kelvington	May 17th, 2008 04:44:14 PM
I hate to pick this nit, but he never kissed Adam, Mickey, or Rose's Mum. Not that I can remember anyway. You could say he's kissed everyone's name that's appeared above the Title that would be correct. LOL Plus I'm hating the fact the TARDIS is just one room, FIX THIS RTD! The TARDIS is HUGE! Deal with it.
As for my opinion on today's Doctor Who............ by axcel1	May 17th, 2008 04:46:05 PM
I have not seen it yet, you won't hear another peep out of me until I have. BTW, what is Eurovision? I'm guessing a sporting event? International? Don't mind me, I'm just an american jerk.
RaveX... by danowen	May 17th, 2008 04:48:31 PM
Maybe it wasn't clear, but I just meant that The Doctor was starstruck by both Christie and Dickens in those historical episodes.
RaveX and axcel1 by Harrow	May 17th, 2008 04:51:14 PM
RaveX: I figure you haven't watched Spain's song from this year then, not to mention Ireland's Turkey hand-puppet, Latvia's pirates and Bosnia's washing line. axcel1: Eurovision is a contest where every European country sends 3 minutes of either camp or ethno, badly-sung pop music, which is then voted on and the country with the most neighbours wins. Its claims to fame include ABBA, Celine Dion and Gina G.
axcel1 by RaveX	May 17th, 2008 04:52:12 PM
http://tinyurl.com/6k7xof just a word of an advice: you're gonna wish it was rickroll.
TARDIS size by danowen	May 17th, 2008 04:53:24 PM
It would be nice to have a bottle show set entirely inside the TARDIS, if only to see other rooms. Can't believe The Doc needs to keep trunks under the floor to save space :)
Harrow by RaveX	May 17th, 2008 04:54:31 PM
"and the country with the most neighbours wins." lol, so true...
Bees? by DimensionsPlural	May 17th, 2008 04:55:16 PM
I've a feeling that the disappearing bees are the red herring of this season, esp. when mentioned in an episode made up of red herrings. More likely the disappearing planets, must be dalek-related somehow... Loved it tonight, had a lot of fun trying to spot all the Agatha Christie novel titles mentioned! Best season so far and we've still go the Moffat to come. Nest year will be so much the poorer for no series 5....
Eurovision: A American's Guide by 69DUDE	May 17th, 2008 05:00:07 PM
Eurovision is an annual music event where a lot of countries in Europe (most of which we've barely heard of), come up with a song each. They then have a live performance of each song, and at the end there is a lengthy vote casting section where each country votes for it's neighbours or political allies, and completely ignores the quality of the songs in question. Speaking of this, Eurovision is reknowned for having the shittiest, god-awful songs ever written. They are all reprehensible beyond words, and the further into Europe you get, the more bizarre they become. Overall, it is a truly horrendous event for the ears and eyes but somehow has become something of a tradition. As is the tradition of the UK coming last amongst the tirade of runny ass-puke that even the most backwards Euro-freak comes up with. Be thankful, America, that you have no knowledge of Eurovision, and please make sure you, or your kids are never subject to it.
Calling on the "gay haters"... by V'Shael	May 17th, 2008 05:01:18 PM
is the typical sort of comment from a Russel T Davies fan boy. You know the sort... incapable of seeing anything his idol does as being shite, therefore all criticism must somehow be because we're homophobic. Gimme a break. There's NOT a large contingent of gay-hating members of the audience. If anything, the Who audience has historically been high percentage gay or gay friendly. If I never see another "gay hater" comment again, it'll be too soon. And if I never see another Russel T. Davies SF script, well that's just a fucking bonus.
Secretly gay men? It's called closeted. by Yeti	May 17th, 2008 05:02:43 PM
Here we go..cue the "Not to sound homophobic, but..." posts in 5,4,3,...
Oi 69DUDE! by Harrow	May 17th, 2008 05:04:25 PM
There is usually 1 or 2 good songs a year. Never the UK one though.
Harrow by 69DUDE	May 17th, 2008 05:06:28 PM
Ok, I'll admit there is one single, saving grace of Eurovision. You do get some good tarts in skimpy outfits. S'bout it.
Eurovision = Cheese in the best sense of the word by Yeti	May 17th, 2008 05:08:15 PM
Think Cher, celine Dion, and Kylie Minoque then multiply the camp factor by 100
Well at least by Harrow	May 17th, 2008 05:08:47 PM
you didn't say Terry Wogan.
Sorry by spud mcspud	May 17th, 2008 05:16:49 PM
This "gay hater" ain't biting. For once, the gay agenda was justified in the period setting. But as V'Shael says, if we never get another RTD script in WHO again (I wish!), it would definitely be a fucking bonus. Tonight's episode kicked ass. Next week, will even more so.
about the quality of songs... by RaveX	May 17th, 2008 05:17:33 PM
as much as it hurts me to admit it, that serbian female hiro nakamura had kinda good song last year...
was it sexist by palewook	May 17th, 2008 05:22:50 PM
that the doctor's psychic paper worked on Agatha Christie? Yet last season didn't work on Shakespeare because he was, as the Doctor put it, "a genius." guess silly girl Agatha was just a mere mortal..
Shame she didn't sing it at Eurovision then! by Harrow	May 17th, 2008 05:23:02 PM
And back on topic next week's Who looked very Blink-like, which is good in a way, but it seemed too similar really, hope it is a bit more original than the trailer made it seem.
palewook by spud mcspud	May 17th, 2008 05:25:37 PM
I think the Shakespeare thing was explained by him having a low-level of psychic ability. For this same reason, in ARMY OF GHOSTS the Torchwood London technician could see that the psychic paper was blank because he'd had "basic psychich training". Ergo, psychic paper only works on people with no psychic ability, or the easily influenced / suggestible. Perhaps Shakespeare had low-level psychic ability, but Agatha Christie didn't? Makes sense, sort of...
Did this episode need aliens? by supertoyslast	May 17th, 2008 05:35:02 PM
I kinda wish that, in this episode, the only sci-fi element had been time travel. I would have enjoyed a low-key episode where the Doctor travels to the 1920s and solves a murder mystery with Agatha Christie - and no aliens. Also, will someone please tell the prouction team that music doesn't need to be playing constantly?
Not a bad episode, different but fun by photoboy	May 17th, 2008 05:57:22 PM
It reminded me a lot of the romp that was "Black Orchid" (which is probably why they just released it on DVD). I'd like to have seen more of the Unicorn, and the ending was a bit silly (but then just about every nuWho has weak endings). But overall it was good fun. Next week looks pretty lame to say the least based on the trailer. The whole "stay out of the shadows" thing sounds like a poor man's rehash of Blink. And after eating all those anchovies, you'd have thought Donna would have said something about the Doctor's breath after kissing him. But I'm sure RTD just throws in the companion kissing to rile up fans because they don't universally love him like the gay community does.
photoboy by spud mcspud	May 17th, 2008 06:23:35 PM
Actually, I think RTD took all the fanboy objections to why we fanboys hated the 1996 TV movie, and began his new Who showbible around that. Example: Lots of car chases. Kissing the companion in as many episodes as we can write it into. Portrayals of the Master that are as far from the Machiavellian strategist Master from old Who as you can get. Scary thing is - and I say this as a major Who fan - it seems to work...
did I miss it? by Cedar_Room	May 17th, 2008 06:57:13 PM
but wasn't it never actually explained who poisoned the doctor and why? Are we to just assume it was the vicar who wanted to get rid of him because he might discover the truth?? anyway I thought it was a good episode, very enjoyable. Unfortunately I'm not particularly enthused about next week's - hope Moffat will continue his winning streak though.
Well done Cedar Room by The Handsome 12th Doctor	May 17th, 2008 07:17:09 PM
Didn't you notice how none of the reviewers, and none of the talkbackers (up until you) had revealed which character 'dunnit'? Now ok, if somebody comes to this page without having seen the episode then they run the risk of seeing spoilers. But I had been thinking people would have the sense not to give that away.
-but, but-what about the Special Guest stars- by TomBodet	May 17th, 2008 07:46:13 PM
-you know, the baddies On The Stairs------>! And you know that these plunger bearing aliens of immense vast cool intelligence and rather ungainly engineering design wouldn't DARE be left outta the Dr. Who procedings-Paging Mr Bannister-
Well, i guess it's a good thing I watched it before seeing...... by axcel1	May 17th, 2008 07:49:52 PM
Cedar_Room's comment. But, then again, I like to know the ending to tv shows and movies. My wife hates that I do that. Oh, and, I really mean it when I say this, best Who ever!!! I was laughing during the poisoning and really enjoyed when the Doctor and Christie had everyone in the parlor to unmask the murderer. Sorry, I have to say it, it was PERFECT!!!!! (The Handsome 12th Doctor, I had to!!!)
TomBodet for the next Doctor... by BiggusDickus	May 17th, 2008 08:00:35 PM
Yeah, he'd sort those pesky Skaro-dwellers out, no problem!
You know I never considered revealing who did it... by Kelvington	May 17th, 2008 08:01:49 PM
That's hilarious, none of us gave it away. That's a first. Last series I was doing detailed recaps, but thought this series I would just review the show. But I'll admit, I never thought to say who did it. I'm sure a lot of people in the states come to this page before they get a chance to see it. As for the poison, they didn't wrap that up, but once you knew there was a murderer, then you just have to assume it was that perzeeennn.
I salute you Kelvington by The Handsome 12th Doctor	May 17th, 2008 08:09:36 PM
And Doctor Dan too. I expected one of the reviewers was bound to give away who did it. And yet we didn't. So a big thumbs up there. Unfortunately we have no control over the talkback.
Was all set to go off about Eurovision by Kurutteru Yatsu	May 17th, 2008 08:10:36 PM
"The Doctor will return in a fortnight?! FUCK YOU, EUROPE!" But after reading the description of how camp it is I now feel compelled to see if it'll be available for download. This was the best episode of the season so far. Everybody was firing on all cylinders, the comedy was right on and the mystery was well handled. The only thing I was left wondering was how long had passed for the Doctor and Donna since the last episode, because he appeared to be back to normal after losing his daughter last week. Still, pretty fantastic overall. *copyright Donna Noble.
Oh yeah, and the Brits have Clue? by Kurutteru Yatsu	May 17th, 2008 08:11:54 PM
(Doctor) Who knew?
what was The Doctor's flippant comment? by lynxpro	May 17th, 2008 08:26:15 PM
Tennant muffled the line, as he often does. I'm referring to the line where Donna makes the comment alluding to all the best men are gay and not interested in women folk, and The Doctor says something about Time Lords.
good episode... by lynxpro	May 17th, 2008 08:26:50 PM
but still, I put on my ear buds to try to figure out the rest of Tennant's line but it didn't work.
Enid.... by Noddy93	May 17th, 2008 08:55:18 PM
I have to take issue with the Doctor claiming that Noddy isn't real.... up your's Doctor
The supposedly "muffled" line by Mockingbird Girl	May 17th, 2008 09:06:46 PM
DONNA: Typical. All the decent men are on the other bus. DOCTOR: Or Time Lords.
The Doctor's flippant comment by smeagol2	May 17th, 2008 09:08:15 PM
Donna: Typical. All the decent men are on the other bus. Doctor: Or Timelords.
Mockingbird Girl beat me by smeagol2	May 17th, 2008 09:09:02 PM
never mind.
Ireland will win Eurovision by vadakinX	May 17th, 2008 09:46:15 PM
Eurovision used to be an actual credible and decent competition and was the place to find some of the best songwriters in the world. Then Ireland won it four times in five years or something and the guys who organise it, fearing that Ireland would run away with the contest for years to come, decided to change it from a jury vote to a public vote...also they wanted to make money for the show. When the televoting came in, however, the best song stopped winning, as people voted for neighbouring countries and gimmicks. It stopped being a serious song contest and became a farce...so this year, Dustin the Turkey, a puppet from kids tv in Ireland decided to enter with a send up of Eurovision. Ireland are the most successful country in the competition, (I'm Irish by the way) and if anyone was going to take the piss out of Eurovision, it was going to be us. The Irish people voted to send the song and the puppet to Eurovision...and it has a huge chance of winning. It is both an example of what Eurovision has become...and that's the point. It's Irelands way of saying "this competition is completely fucked up and needs to change" done in a uniquely Irish way. After last years miserable performance though, Ireland have to qualify for the final and will take part in a semi final on Tuesday....the voting trend there will indicate how big a chance Dustin actually has. The traditionalists are up in arms about the whole thing...they just don't get it. Televoting has destroyed Eurovision...and Dustin the Turkey puppet is Irelands way of trying to fix it. If any other country had tried to do it, nobody would listen...but Ireland is the king of Eurovision, and this may be the thing that finally shows how much of a joke it has become and convince the organisers that it needs to be fixed. So if you're from Europe, vote for Ireland. A vote for Dustin is a vote for change. Oh and tonights Doctor Who was pretty fun.
quite good episode except for one thing by jccalhoun	May 17th, 2008 10:35:22 PM
This was really really good. However, it did frustrate me that the Doctor or Donna didn't even think that perhaps maybe a member of the staff might have had something to do with it. While it was in keeping with the fiction of the era that the servants were in the background and not even considered (although to be fair in Wilkie Collins' The Moonstone the servants play a large role and there's a reason why the phrase "The butler did it" is so well know) it would have been nice to at least have our characters with a modern sensibility to say something about how the staff were at least capable of murder. For the UK folks in the beginning when Donna was mentioning Dickens meeting ghosts on Christmas she also said it would be like someone meeting someone else. What was that? I don't think that's a reference that many of us over here in the States will understand. (or I'm just incredibly ignorant)
Second time by DimensionsPlural	May 18th, 2008 12:55:44 AM
Just watched it again, and it got even funnier. Best line at the mement - "That's too salty!!!". Genius.
jccalhoun by Mockingbird Girl	May 18th, 2008 01:22:54 AM
The other reference was to Enid Blyton and Noddy. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N oddy for details.
Graeme Harper by Antifanboy	May 18th, 2008 02:33:38 AM
It's nice to see Graeme Harper's name keep cropping up as director. You don't really notice his direction, but that's the way it should be. You'd fear the BBC, trying to court the youth audience, would use wretched twentysomethings, whose directorial style is along the lines of "People standing still talking for longer than five seconds - bring me the handheld camera! Time for some flashcuts!"; swooping around and filling the screen with visual 'noise' to keep the attention of even the most determined attention deficit kid. Harper's connection with Doctor Who goes back over thirty years, since he was a mere runner on set. He later got his hands on the last truly great story of the old series, The Caves of Androzani, and he did the best Colin Baker story too, Revelation of the Daleks. I also see he's down to direct the final two episodes this season, which bodes well.
Am I the only one? by JADSTERSDAD	May 18th, 2008 03:35:57 AM
Who didn't think this episode was brilliant? Sorry to miss getting a full review in. I'd have liked to. But, briefly, my gripe is that it contained - for me - the best (historical, thoughtful) and the very worst (manic, slapstick) of Tennant Who. That GODAWFUL poison scene. But it did make me finally realise that it's Donna that's the problem. Sorry, but she doesn't get my vote. She manages to be quite dignified in certain scenes but then totally blows it for the whole episode in a matter of seconds. Come on... someone else out there has to take their blinkers off. Not a patch on the Dickens story, but there were some very good bits.
vadakinX by Harrow	May 18th, 2008 03:56:07 AM
Ireland don't have a chance of winning Eurovision. And others have sent much funnier stuff to the contest and done well (Ukraine 2007, Lithuania 2006, Austria 2003), and Spain's comedy entry will do much better than Dustin the Turkey this year too. Nice to see Ireland trying to 'save' the contest, even though they did it more damage than any other countries in the 90s!
Take their blinkers off???? by axcel1	May 18th, 2008 05:09:34 AM
I think I speak for everyone when I say, NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!! !!!!
Well another great episode! by Lloydywho	May 18th, 2008 05:32:56 AM
This episode got the series back on track. After the not quite as brilliant but still pretty good episode before it. Was initially disappointed to see that there wasn't a coming soon trailer, but thankfully there is one available next week. Can't wait!! This is the best series of New who yet.
Best series? Blinkers. by JADSTERSDAD	May 18th, 2008 06:04:53 AM
Who can speak for 'everyone'? So far, series three is way ahead. Martha may have run her course but she was way better than Donna back then. Gloves are off!
Best series by The Handsome 12th Doctor	May 18th, 2008 06:18:38 AM
I would say this current season is ahead of the third right now. By this halfway point last year season 3 had the worst pair of episodes yet (Daleks Take Manhattan). This season hasn't had anything as bad as that. I've found even the lesser episodes this year have been good. However the later half of last season contained some of the best eps of all, so let's compare notes again in a few weeks.
Nothing this year was as bad as Daleks by V'Shael	May 18th, 2008 06:37:48 AM
Take Manhattan. I mean, sweet zombie jesus, are they really trawling old Friday 13th movies for titles now? I will, on the flip side, say that I was wrong about Catherine Tate. Her comedy show will never be my cup of tea, but Donna Noble is not the screeching harpie I feared she would be. And as an anonymous internet talkbacker, I'm naturally an arrogant egocentric twit who always thinks I'm right about stuff. (So say we all.) So it's weird to admit I was wrong about her, and that she's actually pretty good.
Catherine Tate is better than Freema Agyeman by Lloydywho	May 18th, 2008 06:47:58 AM
Catherine Tate is a better actress than Freema, series 3 suffered from her poor deliery throughout. I will agree that Blink and Human nature/ Family of Blood are genuine classics. I also think that this series has already delivered a genuine classic with the Fires of Pompei. I really enjoyed the Sontaran 2 parter, lots of fanboy geekiness too enjoy. Thought that the planet of the Ood wass also pretty brilliant. Catherine Tate has been great and I hope people will admit that their initial fears have been layed too rest. Freema can't act that is the truth.
Compare notes in the future by JADSTERSDAD	May 18th, 2008 07:04:05 AM
Agreed, Handsome. On Freema vs Catherine.. I also can't argue that CT is a better actress. It's just what she chooses to do with it (or, to be fair, what RTD and the scriptwriters do for her). I just think Martha worked better as a 'classic' Who assistant. I don't agree that the Dalek two-parter was that bad (the Adipose and parts of last night's story were easily worse). I do admit, however, that Tate isn't as bad as I thought she'd be either. I'm just sensing that this series is approaching Die Another Day territory, as a parallel with Pierce's Bond. I hope I'm wrong. (btw - I did like DAD and thought it contained classic moments, but on the whole it needed Casino Royale badly. Does that mean we need a new Who too? Meooowww!)
My Lovely Horse by godwillforgivethem	May 18th, 2008 07:32:07 AM
Best eurovision song ever
Bleeding Euro-vision again? by Smashing	May 18th, 2008 07:54:51 AM
It would be like cancelling Lost for American Idol, I mean why can't they show both?, I hear the BBC has been scheduling TV for a while now, how come the big 2 week wait? gah
Some very funny lines in this week's episode! by IAmMrMonkey!	May 18th, 2008 08:02:38 AM
It actually made me laugh out loud on one or two occassions so well done there NuWho. I'm a bit fearful of the next episode though. I'm hoping I'm wrong but it didn't look that great from the trailer...
Trailer by The Handsome 12th Doctor	May 18th, 2008 08:21:09 AM
The trailer for the next episode didn't look that hot I agree. I'm still eager to see it. Steven Moffat hasn't failed to deliver yet. Colin Salmon is in it, who even in his worst roles he's always great to watch. Plus I remember the trailer for "Human Nature" made that look very poor and it turned out to be superb.
Quite true Handsome 12th Doctor by IAmMrMonkey!	May 18th, 2008 08:36:53 AM
You can't really judge something from a trailer I suppose and Moffat has yet to let us down. Plus it's a two parter so there will be more room for a good story. And who doesn't love tense cliffhangers (although I doubt it'll be as good a cliffhanger as "The Empty Child" which was followed by one of my favourite cliffhanger resolutions - having The Doctor simply tell the aliens to go to bed was one of my favourite scenes in that season!)
Ok, Ok, JADSTERSDAD.......... by axcel1	May 18th, 2008 09:02:18 AM
When I said "everyone", I meant just me..........and............... whoever else was in the room at the time. Oh, and, for the record, I'm wearing rose-tinted glasses, not blinkers or, is that the same thing in the UK?
Oh, BTW............... by axcel1	May 18th, 2008 09:48:13 AM
There was no one in the room at the time, besides me. And, on the subject of Eurovision, OMG!!!! I have to wait a fortnight....oh for god's sake, it's two weeks!!!!! Where oh where did this "fortnight" come from? Am I the only american who has wondered this? does it have something to do with a fort? (And, JADSTERSDAD, put your gloves back on, isn't it always cold and rainy in the UK?
Cluedo by ROBE	May 18th, 2008 10:27:57 AM
We in the UK do indeed have Clue but it is called Cluedo and we have a Reverend Green and not Mr. Green.
ROSE tinted glasses by JADSTERSDAD	May 18th, 2008 10:30:06 AM
Ahhh I see! You prefer Rose to Martha AND Donna? ;-) Yes.. it's the same thing. I'll put my gloves back on. Obviously I haven't succeeded in baiting any CT-lovers with my ire. Oh well. I should be grateful we have a show, I suppose. For my money (good old English pounds) there hasn't been a companion to better Ace so far. Hehe
LOL to ROBE by JADSTERSDAD	May 18th, 2008 10:31:08 AM
Cluedo. Nice.
Well, JADSTERSDAD, I think it depenses on..... by axcel1	May 18th, 2008 10:59:51 AM
what you want in a companion? If female, do you want hot? easy-on-the-eyes? protector? screener? helper? If male, do you want young? old? protector?, helper? I saw Ace as the Doctor's protector. I think she saw herself as his protector, too. She was easy-on-the-eyes, too. (keeping in mind her real age, not her age on the show.) For hot companion, it's Peri all the way!!!!
It was ok, but not the best episode... by Lemming	May 18th, 2008 11:00:47 AM
Basically there wasn't any need to for it to be a giant wasp alien. It could have been something a little more plausible, or any kind of shape-shifting alien we've already seen. I just thought the giant wasp was kind of....silly. Even for Doctor Who.
That's screamer, not screener, sorry about that, Chief!! by axcel1	May 18th, 2008 11:02:02 AM

Speaking of Cluedo by The Handsome 12th Doctor	May 18th, 2008 11:02:10 AM
I imagine the name Professor Peach was supposed to sound like a Cluedo character. But did anyone else think first of Benny Hill in "The Italian Job"? Or was that just me? Oh, and a 'fortnight' came from the Old English 'feorwertyne niht', meaning fourteen nights. There endeth the dull English History lesson of today.
Oh and the order of companions in terms of 'best' for me is.. by Lemming	May 18th, 2008 11:02:52 AM
1. Sally Sparrow 2.Jenny 3.Martha 4.Donna Noble. 5. Rose 'the gob' Tyler.
Handsome 12th Doctor, Profess Peach = by Lemming	May 18th, 2008 11:04:10 AM
Professor Plum. It wasn't a direct reference, but it was supposed to be like a Cluedo character, as was his death (library with the lead pipe)
Hot companion by JADSTERSDAD	May 18th, 2008 11:12:27 AM
Ok, axcel. We agree on something! Peri is definitely the hottest. I met her once and she is all that in real life too. I always had a thing for Zoe when I was young (met her too! At the same convention. And my family got her to sit on my lap for a photo. I was so embarassed I couldn't really enjoy it!) But bring back Ace, I say. Thanks for the history lesson, Handsome. I didn't know that.. and I'm British!
Incidently..... by JADSTERSDAD	May 18th, 2008 11:18:07 AM
For a discussion of why Rev.Green was turned into a Mr. in the US..probably..see Richard Dawkins' 'The God Delusion'. And note that his current wife is Lalla (Romana II) Ward!
Ace was an ace companion by The Handsome 12th Doctor	May 18th, 2008 11:54:17 AM
I'd dearly love to see her return, if only for one episode. I didn't know Richard Dawkins is married to Lalla Ward. That's a cool couple. Dawkins is making a guest appearance in Who sometime soon. Unless I've been informed wrongly.
The Handsome 12th Doctor, I hate to be the one to tell you this, by axcel1	May 18th, 2008 11:57:10 AM
It was that just you, but, then, I never saw "The Italian Job", original or remake. LOL BTW, thanks for telling us what "fortnight" came from. Short for fourteen. JADSTERSDAD, oooooooo, you stood next to Hotnesssss!!!!!!
That was Great by manicart1	May 18th, 2008 12:03:46 PM
I wasn't expecting to like this episode for some reason, so I was quite pleasantly surprised. I suppose what with Sontarans, the Doctor's daughter, Pompeii, the return of Rose and the million other things that made me anticipate this season eagerly, a story about Agatha Christie fighting giant wasps didn't figure too highly on my 'most wanted' list. I'm glad to have been mistaken. However next week there will be no Lost, no BSG and no Who! A pox on the writer's strike and the Eurpvision song contest. A pox I say!
Doctor Who by Miguel De Barioz	May 18th, 2008 12:57:14 PM
I JUST LOVE these crazy adventures that I watch each week - we don't have anyone near as 'out-there' as Doctor Who in our mythology. I am just loving this entire series! I am, like, the ultimate Doctor Who geek (my Papa thinks the Doctor is faggy). Anyway I have been adding some geekoid facts each week for you guys to marvel at. 1. Doctor Who took no pleasure in kissing Donna. 2. The big Bee managed to repair the loss of his stinger. 3. Doctor Who had no IDEA who Unicorn was, this is similar to the time he didnt realize who the Master was. 4. Doctor Who has used the Smith name three times now. 5. The theme tune has changed, is this due to the return of Dalek? 6. Doctor Who looked sad at the end of the episode as if he were gatting ready to turn into the third Doctor Who. If anyone else has any more info please write.
He was sad because... by JADSTERSDAD	May 18th, 2008 01:04:08 PM
..of having to overact in the poison scene. Or because of having to kiss Donna (see above). Or that Peri wasn't there. Or... sorry! :-)
The Third Doctor Who by Miguel De Barioz	May 18th, 2008 01:06:02 PM
If my theory about Doctor Who changing is correct I have some ideas as to casting: 1. How about an American/ Mexican Doctor Who, imagine how good this programme would be if it had good budgets? 2. A black Doctor Who would be fun for a few episodes. Imagine the situations he would find himself in? 3. Donna should be played by a more pretty American/ Mexican. I like this character and know she is importnat to Doctor Who's history. Any thoughts?
Miguel De Barioz, here's one more piece of info... by axcel1	May 18th, 2008 01:11:32 PM
The tv show is called, "Doctor Who", not the person played by David Tennant. But, then, now that I think about it, some people do call him that.
Very funny by Miguel De Barioz	May 18th, 2008 01:16:16 PM
laugh at the dozy mexican kid, thanks man. Make me look a fool in front of all the guys on here.
JADSTERSDAD, don't put down the poison scene. by axcel1	May 18th, 2008 01:21:42 PM
That was one of my two favorite parts of the ep. That and the "come into the parlor so I can tell you who the murderer is" scene.
I have to say I also prefer the third season by CrichtonAstronut	May 18th, 2008 01:55:59 PM
In fact I'd say the third season is currently my favorite of the new Who. it just seemed to be a darker more serious more interesting Who than the other seasons. I think the guest characters were better developed, when they died it meant more. The bad guys were more psychologically complex. The Sontarans and the Ood factory boss seemed a little too moustache twirly. I've loved thi seaon, but it seems a bit more for kids than last. The stories are more social or political, less personal. They seem to be pushing a moral a little more heavily. And really think that in some ways Rose and Donna have been a bit too rigidly defined Rose is the young working class perspective, Donna is the older middle class perspective and the funny one. The fact tht Martha doesn't have such a consistant briefe I think made her character more interesting and adaptable. I don't think Donna or Rose ever had to carry an episode like Martha did in both parts of the Family of Blood two parter. And I think last season the stories sereved the characters better, guests and main, here this season we still great characer scenes but they seem to be shown in braeks from the main plot not revealed through the events of the story. I really have enjoyed this season and think it ranks well and even better than most of the first two seasons, but season 3 just connected with me.
So terribly boring/ by The True Priapic	May 18th, 2008 02:01:11 PM
God,I did one thing I haven'y done this season and that's to avoid any spoilers.Did't help.Terrible.This story means nothing and teaches us nothing.May as well as not existed.Boring.Dull.I'm bored. Seriously...this season is just dreadful.None of it matters."I'm sorry.I'm so sorry."
Smashing by Harrow	May 18th, 2008 02:01:35 PM
Eurovision is the biggest ratings puller for absolute minimum effort that BBC has on a Saturday night, so it makes sense that they'd delay their 2nd biggest family entertainment show for their 1st one. On Eurovision night they are guaranteed the audience share, why waste Dr Who when they've already won the 24th May battle? Oh and vote BOSNIA-HERZEGOVINA! Or Spain!
And i actually sort of iked the Daleks in Manhatten by CrichtonAstronut	May 18th, 2008 02:05:41 PM
two parter, sure it had its faults, but it had some fantastic guest characters. Solomon was great and that show girl was a hoot.
Reverend Golighltly. Ha Haven't gotten this downloaded by CrichtonAstronut	May 18th, 2008 02:13:52 PM
But Reverend Golightly's got to be the funniest name ever. And perfect or a mystery spoof.
I could see a black Doctor if he's played by that guy by CrichtonAstronut	May 18th, 2008 02:18:03 PM
who played the young Detective Shipton, in last season's Blink. He was awesome.
On Shakespeare and psychic paper. It's friggin by CrichtonAstronut	May 18th, 2008 02:34:09 PM
Shakespeare, I mean Dickens is brilliant, Agatha Chrisytie is brilliant, but Shakespeare is William f'n Shakespeare. The human genium has everbeen as the Doctor puts it, btw brilliant line. He practically super human in talent recognized throughout the world and Brits are rightly proud to call him their own. Dude wrote friggin Hamlet. That's wy he can see through paper and pierce the veil between demisions cause he's awesome. Though if you want girl power J.K. Rowling saved the day in that one.
Sure by JADSTERSDAD	May 18th, 2008 02:36:04 PM
It's all in the casting. In movies, Denzel is superb in everything he plays in. I think Colin Salmon, due next week, would be superb.
old Shipton could work too, but I really like young dude. by CrichtonAstronut	May 18th, 2008 02:36:36 PM

How bout that guy who played Johnathan Creek by CrichtonAstronut	May 18th, 2008 02:43:17 PM
he'd make pretty awesom 11th Doctor
J.K. and Martha actually, so double girl power by CrichtonAstronut	May 18th, 2008 03:04:28 PM

Martha: Verily, Forsooth, Egads. Was another by CrichtonAstronut	May 18th, 2008 03:26:33 PM
great "No. Don't do that." moment. She does great deadpan, should've been given more such moment.
Maybe not deadpan but whatever it was it was delightful. by CrichtonAstronut	May 18th, 2008 03:28:37 PM

Spud McSpud et al by carefulsilly	May 18th, 2008 04:10:11 PM
Your post made me laugh - seeing as how it was badly constructed and made no sense. 'Camp' - does not mean gay - you may want to look that up. Thus I was not referring to Eurovision and it's 'gay excesses' rather it's overly camp nonsense. They put an award winning drama back a week to broadcast THAT! Also I'm anything but a self loathing gay hater. In fact I adore gay men - I quite often help them out when they're busy.
I used to hate Donna and her "comedy" by David Cloverfield	May 18th, 2008 04:14:38 PM
But the tipping point was the poison scene. I was rolling my eyes, but then all of the sudden I started laughing. It was weird. But when guessed something stupid to what the Doctor is trying to say, and Tennant stops chocking to repeat it in disbelief... I was laughing out loud. I'm finally sold on Donna. If they can put Martha's ass in a little box at the corner of the screen, Donna can stay.
SEASON 3 MUCH BETTER...... by DECKERS	May 18th, 2008 04:14:58 PM
...I agree with this wholeheartedly. This weeks and last weeks WHO both seemed to have an unsatisfying technobabble ending, all other eps a bit meh...I find it all a bit staid. When I see the trailer for the next episode I already know what type of story it will be, and there are precious few surprised (unlike the season 3). There seemed to be a lot of the WHO premise not tapped into (eg. the fact he is half-human for example). The new WHO seems to be mired at times in it's own mythology. Will Jack, Martha, Rose etc. always be popping up at some stage? I always enjoyed the clean-break the old stories used to enjoy as this kept a sense of an onward journey for the Doc. I have on the whole enjoyed Tennant as time in the role, but a new actor with an new take on the character sounds good also. Anyone agree?
I watched this episode again earlier tonight by The Handsome 12th Doctor	May 18th, 2008 04:52:23 PM
And again, it was brilliance. I laughed out at a joke that I somehow missed last night. After the Doctor has been poisoned the first thing he does when he runs into the kitchen is go straight up to the (secretly) gay servant and shout "Ginger beer!" to his face. Class.
DECKERS by djtelesca	May 18th, 2008 05:51:05 PM
The half-human thing is strictly from the Doctor Who TV movie (and never part of the 20+ years of the show), and I'm sure that they've chosen to just plain ignore it as a bad idea.
They have to give up that Half-Human thing... by Kelvington	May 18th, 2008 06:51:15 PM
I've been watching the CE season again, and I'm now convinced he never shagged Rose, and he's sure as hell not half human. They have to let this go and never look back. Plus I think the guy from Johnathan Creek is a little too Tom Bakerish for his own good to be the Doctor, but the guy from the next episode, if he had hair, he would rock as the Doctor. I read once they were considering the guy who did Jekyll as a Doctor and that guy would be wicked cool.
Half human is a good idea by vadakinX	May 18th, 2008 10:11:52 PM
And it is part of "teh canon" The TV movie is part of the series, like it or not, and while RTD may choose to ignore the "half human" aspect, it doesn't make it any less valid. And I happen to think it's a good idea and explains a lot. It could make for some really interesting stories though the only real problem with it is that it might take away some of the mystery of who the Doctor is. We know very little about the First Doctor as he was before the series. We know nothing of his daughter or his wife or what happened to them. A part of me would like one of next years specials to focus on the early years of the First Doctor, and have another one focus on the Eight Doctor and the Time War.
Scripts for the last episodes of Dr. Who season.... by bobsjohnson	May 18th, 2008 10:14:07 PM
http://tinyurl.com/639zy3
Being half human by ZeroCorpse	May 19th, 2008 01:30:15 AM
would explain why the Doctor is so obsessed with humans, even in regenerations that seem to think of humans as annoying, primitive gnats (sixth Doctor, I'm looking at you!) No, the worst thing from the TV Movie was the Doctor dying from getting shot and having a surgeon botch an exploration of his innards. That bugged me, and it was a poor way for one of my favorite Doctors to die (That being seventh Doctor, Sylvester McCoy, who didn't get a fair chance to expand the character before being cancelled). Oh. yeah, and I still wonder what the hell happened to get The Master out of the eye and into Jacobi's Professor. The Doctor can be half human, but still have predominantly Gallifreyan physiology. I don't have a problem with that. His mother would likely have been the Gallifreyan, and his father would have been the human. His dad doesn't have to be from the 20th or 21st century, either. He could be from the year 4,000,000 when humanity is stretched across the universe, or he could be from an earlier time. It doesn't matter. Frankly, I like the idea of the Doctor's mother being a TimeLady who fell in love with an Earthman and kept the identity of her child's father a secret, hoping it would protect her child's chances to become a Timelord himself... And THAT is why, as a Timelord, the Doctor is so unconventional. He never stuck to the hard-and-fast, written-in-stone rules of the Timelords. He interfered a lot more than they would have liked, and was exiled for it. He initially STOLE his TARDIS, for goodness sake! So many things about the Doctor are just so blatantly human, it's completely believable that he's got a human dad. I object to the idea that the Doctor is to be this sexless, monk-like, time-traveling detective. Where does canon establish that he can't fall in love, have sex, or become attached to people? Indeed, canon would argue that he HAS fallen in love, had sex, and has constantly become attached to people! If THOSE are not human traits, then I don't know what is.
You all must have seen a different episode to me- by Lost Jarv	May 19th, 2008 02:41:31 AM
where to begin- that is the episode I've hated most for a long fucking time. Woeful winking at the audience shite, a fucking kiss between the doctor and Donna (I'd probably throw up smoke if that tumour-faced troll grabbed me), a fucking stupid giant wasp that can be defeated using a magnifying glass, I can go on and on with this. The whole episode seemed to be constructed so that CATHERINE FUCKING TATE could show her "comedic" range- "Flapper or slapper" No, love, fat troll. A pity because I've generally been quite liking this series (with the exception of Adipose) and Tate has been growing on me, but that was rotten. The trailer for the next episode looks much, much better.
Lost Jarv by carefulsilly	May 19th, 2008 05:09:31 AM
Actually Mister Lost Jarv - you do have a bit of a point. I watched the repeat yesterday and I think you can definitely tell that this episode was filmed first. Donna is very shouty and 'Runaway Bride' in her delivery. But I wouldn't go so far as to call her a troll! You cad!
The Specials 2009 by carefulsilly	May 19th, 2008 05:13:57 AM
It sounds like such a grand idea to do special stories about the Doctor's past, but I fear they just wouldn't happen. The BBC has entrusted this ratings giant to David Tennant. They LOVE David Tennant - (as well they should, though he does shout a lot which gets on my nerves) - thus they'd hardly have a special centred around another actor portraying The Doctor. I'd adore a story centred around Paul McGann and Sheridan Smith, maybe leading up to the hideous 'Time War' but alas that will always remain a fanboy wank-a-thon. Shame.
carefulsilly, by Lost Jarv	May 19th, 2008 07:35:38 AM
It's usually "sir". In fact, next time I get banned I'm coming back as Sir Jarv. Only joking, and the Troll comment was harsh, I just couldn't believe the love in being poured on it- especially regarding the "copyright Donna Noble" shit- it wasn't particularly funny in the Shakespeare episode, but was absolutely criminal when it was recycled. And the gay son did piss me off a little bit- it could just as easily have been a chambermaid or a fucking sheep or something and still been anathema to that class. All in all, worst episode since Daleks take Manhatten: F-
I have heard James Nesbit from Jekyll was being by CrichtonAstronut	May 19th, 2008 08:15:22 AM
conssidered and is in fact the front runner, too. I think that would be very awesome. Especially if Steve Moffat is gonna be running the next season.
I always wanted to see a psychic paper scene by CrichtonAstronut	May 19th, 2008 08:24:12 AM
where one of the newbies holds up the paper in front of a bunch of armed guards about to shoot him/her and the leader of the guards says, "Why are you holding a sheet of paper that says 'Please Don't Shoot Me'."
Zero - RE Doctor being half-human by spud mcspud	May 19th, 2008 08:27:14 AM
With you on that ZC - I always assumed that the reason the Doctor saw himself as Earth's protector or guardian is that he has a special connection to it - having one parent being from Earth, maybe? Plus, Hartnell's Doctor had a human grand-daughter - who was human... Balls to canon - make it so!
Nesbitt? by Lost Jarv	May 19th, 2008 08:32:21 AM
Fuck no, horrible idea
No. No Nesbitt by The Handsome 12th Doctor	May 19th, 2008 09:23:28 AM
My choice for the next Doctor is Mark Heap. I wouldn't want him to change for a few years though. I'm liking Tennant lots right now.
Ian Hart by Lost Jarv	May 19th, 2008 09:46:13 AM
I think that's the fella. He played John Lennon in Backbeat.
Another thing I liked about season 3 is it set the tone by CrichtonAstronut	May 19th, 2008 10:48:13 AM
for Blink. Blink would have seemed out of place in seasons 1 and 2 a probably the current season as well. In the season 3 given the darker sacrrier tone of the season as a whole, Blink fit prfectly.
Crichton- by Lost Jarv	May 19th, 2008 11:20:56 AM
That's ridiculous. A whole season set the tone for one episode? that episode had better be the finale.
I'm not saying seaso one design to fit one episode by CrichtonAstronut	May 19th, 2008 11:22:35 AM
more that Moffat was inspired by the nature of the season so far to go a bit darker, which I liked.
And I know Blink was not the finale by Lost Jarv	May 19th, 2008 11:23:03 AM
I preferred the darker tone on season 3- but I wouldn't say that Blink would be out of place in any of the series. Even this one, although it could do with darkening up a heck of a lot of The Waspvicar Did It. I knew I was going to hate that episode as soon as I saw the wasp at the start and the lead piping.
And before anyone says he would have written it by CrichtonAstronut	May 19th, 2008 11:26:39 AM
before seeing the other seaso episodes. I'm sure and RTD and other producers and writer talk about these things, he may have even asked, what RTD wanted to do in season and set his skills to helping with that.
I disagree- I don't think Blink was inspired by the by Lost Jarv	May 19th, 2008 11:26:57 AM
tone of the series- don't forget those gas mask thingummies in the first series. So far this season I reckon it has been: meh to crap, quite good, meh, meh, meh, woeful. The plus point was that Tate was growing on me, not unlike that thing on her face, before that atrocity last weekend. I'm really looking forward to the next one.
I am interested in seeing what Moffat does come up by CrichtonAstronut	May 19th, 2008 11:31:38 AM
with for this season.
That trailer did seem a bit Blink-esque by Lost Jarv	May 19th, 2008 11:35:44 AM
"stay out of the shadows" but I don't think that's a bad thing. I'd like a Dalek-free series. I'm getting a touch bored of them (something I'd never thought I'd say).
I'd like a psychic paper scene by Lost Jarv	May 19th, 2008 11:37:04 AM
where he shows it to some guy on the street, who then smacks him and says "you giving me a fucking parking ticket, cunt?" but it may be out of place.
I like the idea of the Doctor's love for Earth being by CrichtonAstronut	May 19th, 2008 11:40:50 AM
a fanboy love, not a part of his family. I always thought the Doctor liked his companions humanity because it was something he didn't that completed him because he didn't have. The half human thing never quite set right with me. But anything done right can work.
For better or Davros's rumored presence makes a totally by CrichtonAstronut	May 19th, 2008 11:47:18 AM
Dalek free season unlikely, but yeah at least freshen the approach to them a bit, the were pretty bad ass in season one. Would like to see the crusiform bit that scares the hell out of the Master. Does the Dalek Emperor still have that power an is the Emperor in fact Davros. He ruled a faction of Daleks for awhile after his first creations turned against him.
For better or worse... by CrichtonAstronut	May 19th, 2008 11:47:55 AM

Mild Spoiler for those not in the know by carefulsilly	May 19th, 2008 11:59:28 AM
First of all - it does say SPOILER so you guys who cannot bear to read anything, look away now. Now, it's not a HUGE spoiler in the fact that the trailers back in March actually SHOWED THE BUGGERING THINGS!!!!! Yes, I'm talking Daleks, lots of Daleks, Donna actually commented on them! For goodness sake. And I thought we would go a whole season without the f*cking things. Now, we have pics of Billie Piper blasting one in half on the street, pics of one firing at a milk man, and a very strange posting on youtube purporting to show the pictures of the new Davros... But there's shit all to see! Anyhow totally agree with fellow posters (Lost Jarv et al)with regard to that New York story. Absolute tripe from beginning to end. A two part bag of shite. You have an actress of the calibre of Miranda Raison and then get her to act like a twat! The whole thing was just dreadful, dreadful rubbish. I have my fingers crossed for the grand finale. PLEASE let's have some rollicking good action, moving scenes with depth, not just Tennant shouting - give him something to do! He's so good, so very bastard good that he needs depth and quality or the boredom seeps through. Oh and lots of Rose! (and no matter what you people say Billie Piper can act. The scene on the beach when she runs to her Mum. God she saved WHO for me.) And kill Martha. Horribly. Possible future Doctor's - I always wanted Charles Dance - but far too old now and middle class is out of favour, so I'd go with Jamie Draven.
PS Traffic Warden by carefulsilly	May 19th, 2008 12:01:39 PM
Traffic warden gag - fucking priceless! Love it!
Charles Dance by Lost Jarv	May 19th, 2008 12:08:58 PM
that, carefulsilly, is a fucking great suggestion. I've avoided all the early BBC hype, because aside from Who there's fuck all I watch on it. I thought davros was just a rumour, but if they're back then so be it. I'd rather they weren't though. Squidward Dalek has ruined it for me. Glad you liked the gag.
re- finale by Lost Jarv	May 19th, 2008 12:11:00 PM
NOT a repeat of that appaling shite that masqueraded as the finale last year. Fucking awful crap- and I liked the 2 set up episodes. Fucking Dr Dobby the jedi knight and the power of positive thought. Especially when that cunt RTD had been wittering on about how this Episode was the big Martha moment. Big fucking moment, what a load of hoary old pish.
And I know this may also be asking a lot by Lost Jarv	May 19th, 2008 12:11:59 PM
but I never want to see Captain Jack in an Episode again. I'm fucking sick of him as well. Keep him in Torchwood.
Quite agree by carefulsilly	May 19th, 2008 01:04:28 PM
Oh Christ - Torchwood with that big headed twat. Is anyone else pig sick of that man? Fucking John bastard Barrowman - the one night stand that just won't go away. He was great in the Empty Child but we don't need it EVERY week. Sod off!!!!!!! Go away. Torchwood is such a total waste of wank. Eve Myles is amazing, but the rest of them...jesus wept. What a let down. And Martha's big moment appeared to be cowering half way up the staircase of a terraced house in Cardiff. Oh and overacting. A lot.
Same old same old by JacktheRaper	May 19th, 2008 01:20:51 PM
KAK!
Torchwood has improved and Dr Who is awesome by Lloydywho	May 19th, 2008 02:38:22 PM
seriously I am sensing alot of negative energy here. Torchwood is great and this series finale was brilliant last years finale was good I will admit not great. Seriously though everyone steals ideas from everyone else, what is the big deal. As long as ideas are used in an original and new way that is fine, RTD is pretty awesome and without him there would be no new who. Now that is a very sad prospect indeed!
Aw, come on, Lost Jarv............ by axcel1	May 19th, 2008 03:56:37 PM
Why do you keep putting down Squidward Dalek? Good Golly Miss Molly, if it wasn't for him and his buddies, Alpha & Beta, we wouldn't have the Empire State Building!!! At least give him props for that!!!!
Yes, I know............ by axcel1	May 19th, 2008 03:59:07 PM
They were planning to take over the Earth and then, the Universe, but, can we overlook that? I can.
I agree the Torchwoodfinale was brilliant and by CrichtonAstronut	May 19th, 2008 04:16:36 PM
Marthas episode was great. She got to be dead clever helping figure out the Reboot bug, and that very lever concept itself from the writers. She also got to do some fun undercover work. She didn't near as much to do in her three Who episodes. Though her Martha meets Martha scenes were pretty good, and the Hath interactions. That bit with the missing people on Torhwood was heartbreaking. I look foreward to season 3 and hope they don't tame it down too much. I know I'm in the minority here, but one minority vote to another. I agree with Lloydywho.
Thank you CrichtonAstronut by Lloydywho	May 19th, 2008 04:39:20 PM
I appreciate the support there, thanks alot. I am sure there must be other people here that has much love for Torchwood. Lets show our love for the new who universe, Torchwood and all!!
And then there was three........ by axcel1	May 19th, 2008 05:00:09 PM
CrichtonAstronut, Lloydywho, I agree with you guys. Torchwood and Who have been great every year they have been on. If they tone down Torchwood to Who level, how can that be bad? If some of my posts are a little silly, it's because most of the posts here are so serious. Guys, lighten up, relax and enjoy the aw and wonder of Doctor Who. (BTW, I already know that the next ep of Who is going to be PERFECT!!!!)
2 awful episodes in a row. by TheDo	May 19th, 2008 05:07:50 PM
but now we're on to the last half. all quality and all worth the crappy daughter episode and the christie one. yeah, it was a "fun filled romp" etc. but it was more of a comedy episode than anything else. don't get me wrong, i love my light-hearted shit, but this episode felt more out of place than love and monsters. either way, we're on to the quality half now. rose is back in episode 11 (i think) and then stavros returns to kick ass in what will probably be the best who season finale since Bad Wolf and PotW. make the most of it though, we don't get much who next year :(
Your quite wecome meant every word. And Moffat by CrichtonAstronut	May 19th, 2008 05:28:08 PM
hasn't let us down yet, so I expect next weeks ep to be brilliant. Looking forward to Torchwood to help tideus over between scials until we finally get seaon 5. The sarah Jane Adventures have been pretty good too. The last four to air on Scifi were really quite clever.
I forgot about Squidward Dalek's contribution by Lost Jarv	May 20th, 2008 02:26:30 AM
to the New York skyline. Whoops. Quite agree, We're into the non-meh half of the season now, so I'm hoping that they've left the comedy behind and lets have some fucking darkness now.
Love and Monsters by Lost Jarv	May 20th, 2008 09:36:47 AM
utterly unspeakable. Arguably the worst episode so far.
Davies out. Moffat in by mulberry	May 20th, 2008 11:04:44 AM
Worst kept secret in Dr Who confirmed: RTD go bye-bye in 2009. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/ent ertainment/7411177.stm
Anymore secret Torchwood fans? by Lloydywho	May 20th, 2008 11:15:43 AM
Come on there must be more of you lot out there Torchwood was watched by over 3 million people, anymore wanna admit to loving the Torch? Welcome too the Grand Moffat this is going to be amazing!
Give RTD credit where it's due by The Handsome 12th Doctor	May 20th, 2008 11:21:44 AM
He brought Who back in the first place and made it a success. For this he'll always have my admiration. Even so, Moffat taking over the reins is great news.
Moffat is the new showrunner! Fuck yes!!! by SpyGuy	May 20th, 2008 12:15:02 PM
Goodbye, campiness...Welcome back, spookiness!
Moffat in? by tylermo	May 20th, 2008 12:33:57 PM
Hope that's true. I'll check it out. That's great news. Mind you, there will still be some 1990's and 2000's sitcomsy and dramedy moments in the new Who, but it should only be up from here. RTD, when you were good, you were sort of good, and when you were bad, it was bad. Thanks for bringing the program back. We owe you that, at least. And, HELLO Moffat! Speaking of MOFFET? How about Peter Davison's daughter, Georgia Moffet? Quite nice, if I do say so myself.
by tylermo	May 20th, 2008 12:44:03 PM
Here's a little something from Gallifreyone.com....The BBC Press Office and various media sources (originally broken by MediaGuardian) have announced that Steven Moffat is to succeed Russell T Davies as the chief writer and executive producer of Doctor Who when it returns for its fifth series. The article states that Moffat will replace Davies in 2009, taking over as "showrunner" for the fifth series in 2010. Moffat has been responsible for several episodes of the revived Doctor Who to date, including the BAFTA Award-winning "Blink" and the fortmcoming two-parter "Silence in the Library" and "Forest of the Dead". Davies is quoted as saying: "It's been a delight and an honour working with Steven, and I can't wait to see where his extraordinary imagination takes the Doctor. Best of all, I get to be a viewer again, watching on a Saturday night!" The BBC press release includes a comment from Moffat himself: "My entire career has been a Secret Plan to get this job. I applied before but I got knocked back 'cos the BBC wanted someone else. Also I was seven. Anyway, I'm glad the BBC has finally seen the light, and it's a huge honour to be following Russell into the best - and the toughest - job in television. I say toughest 'cos Russell's at my window right now, pointing and laughing." As Sam J. Jones proclaimed at the end of 1980's Flash Gordon, "YEAH!"
That last bit was mine! by tylermo	May 20th, 2008 12:50:50 PM
Just the 9 year old Flash Gordon geek coming out in me.
I've loved Coupling, Jekyll and every episode of Doctor Who by CrichtonAstronut	May 20th, 2008 02:07:25 PM
Moffat' written so this will be awesome to see him run the whole show. I've loved Daviesd take on the Doctor and he has my everlasting thanks for bringing him back to the screen, but Moffat's more thanproved is metal in a flawless trackrecord of brilliant award winning episodes so I'm sure we'll see some great thing this coming fifth season. Wouldn't mind seeing a Jekyll follow up either that was left wide open for a sequel.
I'd love to see Moffat do a Torchwod ep too by CrichtonAstronut	May 20th, 2008 02:12:29 PM
I'd love to see what he would do wth that group. Afrter all he wrote the ep that introduced Jack Harkness. How bout a Jekyll Torchwood crossover. That could be cool. Though I'd leae it to his own brilliant imagination to ome up with something completely different.
I just want to know what happens wih the twins. by CrichtonAstronut	May 20th, 2008 02:13:18 PM

Another Torchwood fan here! by ComputerGuy68	May 20th, 2008 02:19:54 PM
First year had more miss than hits, but year two was a vast improvement. I am looking forward to the next season, and Martha's bum ;) Moffat!!!!! No more Jekyll :( but Who will only get much better...
Can't wait for series 5 by Lloydywho	May 20th, 2008 02:41:57 PM
I am thinking that Moffat will be able to create so truly scary NEW monsters and obviously have a shot at some of the remainingg classic monsters. I personally would love to see his take on the Zygons and the Ice warriors. Oh lordy what about the Sea Devils now that is a pretty cool idea. What other monsters would you like to see the Grand Moff work his magic imagination on?
I be he has some brilliant new baddies. The weeping angels by CrichtonAstronut	May 20th, 2008 03:47:19 PM
were genius and the concepts for the Empty Child and the Girl in the Fireplace were brilliant.
Jarv - LOVE AND MONSTERS by spud mcspud	May 20th, 2008 05:35:58 PM
Have a heart, Jarv! LOVE AND MONSTERS = Dr Who X "Jose Chung's From Outer Space". Come on, it WAS pretty funny. Except for the horribly out-of-place oral sex / paving slab joke, which really should've belonged in TORCHWOOD. Seriously - there can't be ANY fun/silly episodes in new Who? I'm not against them, if done right. Ditto UNICORN AND THE WASP - contrived, yes, but contrived in order to fit the cliche murder-mystery dinner party template. Sometimes light and frothy CAN be a good thing in Who... With you on Squidward Dalek though - I mean, no-one in the practical FX crew thought ot say out loud, "Erm, Mr the T... Why does the hybrid have 6 cocks hanging off his head? Isn't this a kids' show? Or shouldn't he be on the TORCHWOOD set, fucking Gwen seven ways from Sunday?". I'm just saying. And the FUCK is up with this HIGHLANDER remake? FUCK ALL REMAKERS. seriously.
I just wondered why the hybrid had a southern accent by CrichtonAstronut	May 20th, 2008 06:33:14 PM
He's half human, half Dalek and his human half is from New York. How does that add up to a Southern accent. Did like the jam it put the Doctor in though. Love moral conflicts.
tink Moffat will definitely keep the humour by CrichtonAstronut	May 20th, 2008 06:39:29 PM
Blink had some pretty funny moments. "It'll come to you." "Sally Shipton." "Life is short and you are hot." "I've learned not go near chickens, it's messy when they go pop" "All of time and space he promised me and now I work in a shop I have to support him." "I have that written on a T-shirt." "You can do short hand?" "Look to your left? I think its political." "You only have seventeen DVDs?"
Love and Monsters by Lost Jarv	May 21st, 2008 06:30:38 AM
A Dr Who episode without the Dr. Complete crap. It isn't that there is no place for the lighter episodes, it's just that they are always the most cack-handed bollocksy ones.

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