Crap

Only Raimi can do this, the guy is shite. SM 2 was ok only, the first 1 and the 3rd were utterly terrible, I mean how do you mess up the Venom arc...Get Raimim and he will sort you out Sony.

They need to re start this franchise again a la Batman, and get it done right i.e. the Villains dont die at end of each movie, and Norman Osbourne does not become Green Goblin until movie 3 or 4. Oh and he doesnt look like a fucking Power Ranger either.

Shiteness personified

Raimi should never direct again for the mistakes he made, I mean how to depict SM going evil (ish)in the black suit...I know, have him walk like JT and look like a total fanny for 10 minutes.

Well done

Sam Raimi raped my childhood worse than anything Lucas ever did, fucking little suit wearing dweeb, I dont give a shit about Evil Dead, Spiderman movies were rank rotten.

The other idea I had was completely re-casting all the roles for the second trilogy. Start fresh with a whole new cast so you can save some money. Otherwise they'll invariably end up with a situation where one actor is looking too old and another drops out and needs to be re-cast yadda yadda yadda.

Still though, I'm all over new Spider-man movies. Spiderman rules. And there are tons of good stories they could still do - like Kraven's last hunt. And they can still kill Gwen Stacey off. They could bring venom back for a decent episode and bring in Carnage. Believe me, there's Lots of drama left to find in Spider-man.

I doubt even if reviews are good I could go and see this at cinema, maybe if a completely different cast and director it might work, but better to start again IMO. Or else we just get bad villains that are worse than those coming before in increasingly cash seeking movies, that have no quality.

First 5 minutes should be Peter waking up from a dream where he looked like a dick (Toby Maguire) and nonoe of it has happened, then it does again, but properly this time.

new actors and new director plz. keep the continuity of the first 2 (and as far as 3 concerned, just allude to the fact he's already faced Sandman and Venom before if they bring either back).

Spidey's world has no dearth of villains.

Best part of Spider-Man 3 was Sandman's first scene.

Fuck it. Here's my italics attempt. Spiderman 4

If they were gonna make more Indy movies, though, with little to no Indy, why not do an Abner Ravenwood series?

It's all down hill from here boys.

If this proposed arc for two more films is solid; it can wipe out the bad taste of the last film. These things take over a year between signing up actors and directors, shooting and post-production; by the time Spidey 4 is done it might be 3 or 4 years since the last one. So, by the time it comes out, it will have been so long between films it will feel like a reboot.

The key to making it good will be to either keep Sam Raimi or (if they do replace him) go up the ladder and get somebody who is equally talented or more accomplished in action films. Directors who might be able to pull it off: Martin Campbell (Golden Eye and Casino Royale are great Bond films), Paul Greengrass can do action well (Sony would just have to go on set ahead of him and bolt all his cameras down), Ridley Scott would make a great Spiderman film (it'll never happen, but we can dream), John McTiernan in his heyday would've been able to make a great Spidey film (but stuff like The 13th Warrior and Rollerball kind of disqualify him.) Finally the casting is big part of whether it succeeds or not. If they don't manage (or maybe even want) to bring Tobey back, they would be wise not to go the "Brandon Routh Unknown Route", that didn't help make "Superman and the Continental Lift Workout" any kind of success. This would also be a great time to go ahead recast Mary Jane Watson, becuase despite what Dunst thinks the franchise can get along just fine without her.

Here's what Lucas said at Cannes:

"I haven't even told Steven or Harrison this," he said. "But I have an idea to make Shia [LeBeouf] the lead character next time and have Harrison [Ford] come back like Sean Connery did in the last movie. I can see it working out."

I hope he was at least 75% joking when he made that statement in Cannes. Like he think s it COULD work and WOULD be profitable, so long as he doesn't retain a shred of dignity for one of his last beloved children (albeit one he birth with SS.) I really, really hope that a Shia LaJones series Never EVER comes about.

Ever.

2. less focus on MJ, she's a storykiller drag in the comics too

3. let's see..., Vulture, Electro, Shocker, Mysterio, Scorpion, and, what the hell, Rhino for the 6

4. SPIDER-SLAYERS!!!

5. Ravencroft

that's more than enough, half of this would be amazing (just in ambition, not necessarily product)

Vern or Harry will need to start a TB soon about "Hawaiian Organ Donor's pick slip."

I see no reason to keep the other prima donnas on; They'll just ruin it with their input. I'd much rather see Spider-Man played by unknowns with some decent acting chops.

Of course, that won't happen either. This is Sony Pictures, and they HAVE TO have a big name attached because they don't think it will sell without one.

Man, get back to basics. No more of this lame 90s comic inspiration. No more fucking Venom, Carnage, or any other symbiote. Nothing that was ever influenced by Todd "hack" McFarlane. Nothing from the current Brand New Day arc, either (fucking joke, that is.)

Back to basics! Kraven, Mysterio, Lizard, Vulture, Rhino, Scorpion and Electro goddamnit!

And how about this, guys: Spider-Man can keep his mask on for an entire end battle! How new and unique that would be!

I love Raimi's work, but damned if I want to see another Raimi Spider-Man after the shitstorm that was SM3. Time to refresh the series and bring in someone who will honor the books-- Preferably the 60s, 70s and 80s versions.

And Dohring obviously has some free time now that MOONLIGHT has been axed.

Campbell has shown the ability to right listing franchises. He would be a good choice to take over if Raimi does not return.

Reboot the franchise with a new director and new actors for every part except Jameson's, and this time get someone who actually fits the Mary Jane role, like Rachel McAdams. Dunst is an anemic talent vacuum whose power of suckage was only countered by how good the rest of Spidey 1 & 2 were. 3 was so weak that Dunst's charmless harridan blossomed into a full black hole of awfulness. Seriously, were any of you rooting for Parker to get back together with MJ?

Damn you, Sam Raimi!

On a side note, I liked Maguire in the role initially, but his sad sack puppy dog love for Dunst has forever tainted him in terms of Spider-Man. Get a new guy!

Seriously, if (when?) they make Spiderman 4 they really need to go in a different direction. It was by far the biggest let down of last summer.

run sam run. nobody will ever top spiderman 1-2 run..

I'd drag my bag across a desert of broken glass just to eat the......well, you get the point.

Actually, according to the guys in Spinal Tap, she goes all the way to 12!

It should then have ended with Brock becoming Venom.

Then the next movie should have been about Peter trying to make amends for everything he did while under the influence of the symbiote, as Eddie, now as Venom, sets about tormenting Peter.

It doesn't take a genius to figure out how it should have been done...heck, the animated series did a pretty good job of it...but big Hollywood writers and directors couldn't manage it.

I'm behind your campaign 100%.

Maybe they should just do a Venom movie if the demand is that much for it and leave the Spider-Man franchise alone.

Almost time to wrap it up at work and go home to my wife. And no, she's not the Busted Tees girl.

*sigh*

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I'm not a fat ass but if I'm not swimming in my shirt, I'm not smiling so I guess I'll pass on their product.

Let them do a Spider-Man movie with classic Spider-Man villains. Give the fanboys a Venom vs. Carnage flick or a video game or whatever the fuck it takes to get them to STFU and take Spidey back to basics. Electro, Kraven, Vulture, Lizard, etc.

2)Hating on a race of people or many groups of people, there's no difference. Hate for hate's sake is wrong.

3)I'd greenlight an R-rated Captain America movie anyday. $40 million you say? Lemme write you a check.

4)Time to go have some pesto and wine.

5)I'll check in on this incredibly bizarre, all over the place TB as I'm cheering the Celtics on.

And it couldn't have helped that Marvel basically cashed in their Sony Spideywampum to do it.

I also think Maguire and Dunst got a hell of a lot more weight to throw around than they did in the other two. 3 is full of those vain actorly moments where you can just tell the stars said "I wanna try this" or "I feel the character must be this way". They fucked the characters just so they could sing/cry/dance or whatever the hell they wanted to try as thespians rather than serve the property.

THAT'S what's pissing us off. We expected better from Raimi.

Just leave it alone, ok? If Sony can fuck up a no-brainer like Venom (look, he's a big, muscle-bound dude in his thirties with a split personality, not a whiny, skinny teenager - what's so difficult to grasp?), they should not be trusted to touch the franchise ever again.

New ideas, new money and let's have that Dr. Connors/Lizard arc please! And then the REAL Venom. With Carnage.

Listen, fanboys. Sam Raimi gets paid the big bucks by Sony 'cause he's a brilliant filmmaker. Most of you are not. He knows what he's doing. And if that means not giving you violence kick-ass craving foaming at the mouth fanboys, not what you idiots want, but what the film trilogy needs, that's what he'll do.

She'll be unemployable by the time this is ready to cast, and who knows.... maybe dead by the time it airs.

Just another of the many brilliant touches lost on many mainstream moviegoers in Spiderman 3, but happily picked up on by this friendly neighborhood film lover.

However...

I liked how Harry is able to make a choice and redeem himself to his friends and the world, and in a way, redeems the Osborn legacy. I liked how Harry becomes a hero. How he himself has realized that "with great power comes great responsibility."

I liked how even Sandman learns this universal Marvel truth. How in Raimi's universe, even a criminal can learn redemption and see the error of his ways, as opposed to being evil all the way to the electric chair. And remember, Sandman becomes a good guy in the comics.

Had the film ended with Eddie Brock becoming Venom, there would have had to have been a continuation of the story with Tobey Maguire, Kirsten Dunst, James Franco, etc. and we can't be sure any of them would have come back for the fourth film. Sam Raimi was able to tie up the story arc of Peter, MJ, and Harry, however, which is the heart of this trilogy. Venom, imo, was always a lousy villain anyway and, imo, deserves minimal treatment in a movie.

As far as treating the material like a "comic book", that's probably what people told Stan Lee back when he was doing what he did back in the 60's. But instead, he went on to write the classic Spider-Man and Fantastic Four stories, the Silver Surfer, which dealt with universal issues like relationships, racism, raising a family, etc., issues usually left out of the "comic books" of the day.

There are definitely shades of grey, but when you walk out of a movie shaking your head, and feeling slightly cheated and pissed off, it's fair to say "that movie sucked." Which Spidey 3 did.

Iron Man gets love because it's deserved, and it gives us hope for the future of superhero movies, just when that hope had been lost thanks to X3, Spidey3, etc.

To answer your question though, there are three simple answers off the top of my head: Marketing, Summer blockbuster season, and the success of the previous two films. Oh, and because even though we might know it sucks, we can't not go see the thing in the theater. Because we're nerds.

And is it also possible that, the symbiote being a very intelligent crafty lifeform, perhaps actively sought out Eddie Brock, a soulless human being who wanted to kill Spiderman?

As for the freaky coincidence of Sandman being the guy who actually shot Ben Parker, well...in the past two films, the two villains were also somehow connected to Peter, almost father figures, Norman Osborn, his best friend's dad, and Otto Octavius, a sort of professor/mentor. Flint Marko obviously couldn't be any kind of direct father figure to Peter, but in a way, is more important. Marko unwittingly is the most important "father" to Peter, in that he is the one that makes Peter realize that "with great power comes great responsibility." This, then, completes the Trilogy of all three "human" villains being "surrogate fathers" to Peter Parker/Spiderman. Kind of brilliant if you ask me...

How's that sound?

Tobey Maguire IS Peter Parker. Hell, he's more Peter Parker than the comic book Peter Parker. In comics, you have to draw your characters somewhat handsome, because, well it doesn't work any other way in comic book art. Tobey Maguire is the living embodiment of what Peter Parker should be. It was brilliant casting, and you should all be happy and thankful. Topher Grace...give me a break...