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man on fire
by frankenfickle
May 13th, 2008
12:00:27 PM
oldskool
We're still talking about this shitty movie?
by NeoMyers
May 13th, 2008
12:01:31 PM
Hollywood has been doing conservatives in the ass for years. Yeah, I trust them to do a Bush movie.
THIRD!
by R L S
May 13th, 2008
12:02:10 PM
But, really, who cares?
The man is great
by Gd00
May 13th, 2008
12:04:45 PM
I always loved the way he played Capt. Bart Mancuso in The hunt for the red october. Great choice.
A Waste of Film
by Karl Childers
May 13th, 2008
12:05:03 PM
I can't wait for Indiana Jones!
by merricks14yearoldson
May 13th, 2008
12:08:37 PM
Only a few more days!!
A film nobody will see!
by SkeletonParty
May 13th, 2008
12:14:03 PM
Why not actually get Rumsfeld? I don't think he's doing anything.
Stupid movie
by coattails
May 13th, 2008
12:14:12 PM
Can't wait!
MeoMyers
by hst666
May 13th, 2008
12:14:33 PM
The problem is when you are honest and objective, the Conservatives look bad. Having said that, I am betting a movie based upon Goldwater would probably be good as he was a real conservative unlike the True Believers who have occupied the high office recently.
I predict a political debate in this talkback...
by tonagan
May 13th, 2008
12:14:42 PM
Because I'm that prescient.
Perfect casting
by chewyou812
May 13th, 2008
12:15:54 PM
But I'm not too excited on this project. Stone's best days are well behind him.
merricks14yearoldson
by just pillow talk
May 13th, 2008
12:16:02 PM
More than a few, but I share your sentiment.
This already depresses the shit out of me....
by FlickaPoo
May 13th, 2008
12:17:15 PM
...don't we get enough of president pretzel chocking children's health care vetoing fuckface every night on TV already? I know, I know, I should be happy because Oliver Stone will make him look like the evil monkey baffoon he is...but still. Can't take it anymore...
That's awful close
by James Westfall
May 13th, 2008
12:18:19 PM
Stone should tread carefully. Political films before an election tend to backfire - he's risking giving support to McCain and losing a bit for either of the two Commies currently running for the leftist nomination.
Scott Glenn IS cool though. IS cool.
by FlickaPoo
May 13th, 2008
12:18:27 PM
Cool on account of THE RIGHT STUFF....
by FlickaPoo
May 13th, 2008
12:21:52 PM
...anyone in THE RIGHT STUFF is cool.
Josh Brolin
by Marillion
May 13th, 2008
12:22:07 PM
Looks more like Rummy than Glen does... Of course this movie is going to be a crock of shit, just like all of Stone's movies, but who cares, right? Just as long as he's bashing Bush, who needs accuracy?
Scott Glenn as Rummy
by MarkWhittington
May 13th, 2008
12:22:41 PM
"Now if Saddam so much as twitches, I'm going to blow him straight to Mars. " Yep, this is looking like more and more a cartoon with every passing day.
Jack Crawford needs to eat
by g-ride9000
May 13th, 2008
12:28:08 PM
check out rumsfeld's rider on the interweb...funny weird stuff
I am making an Obama film
by sott68
May 13th, 2008
12:29:08 PM
It will be 1 minute long because he hasnt done anything in life to make a film about. Maybe in a year you can make a film about how a young black male lost to a 72 yr old whitey.
Bill Pullman as everyone!
by Baron Karza
May 13th, 2008
12:29:13 PM
He looks official.
Scott Glenn IS cool
by kwisatzhaderach
May 13th, 2008
12:30:23 PM
He's cool in The Hunt For Red October, Backdraft, The Bourne Ultimatum, The Right Stuff, The Silence of the Lambs. And he's ultra-cool as Glaeken Trismegestus in The Keep, especially when he jumps up in bed with his freaky glowing blue eyes.
Wow! Fucking cool!
by Motoko Kusanagi
May 13th, 2008
12:32:53 PM
I'm definitely going to see his and keep my fingers crossed that this won't suck royal monkey dick like the awful WTC, easily Stone's worst pic ever.
Harry Finds His Balls
by Jeditemple
May 13th, 2008
12:34:20 PM
Actually, MOVEON.org has them in a containment field.
sott68
by just pillow talk
May 13th, 2008
12:34:29 PM
May I ask what Georgie did before becoming Prez? Do you think being governor of Texas for 6 years or whatever it was, buying the Rangers, helped prepare him for the Presidency?

I'm not saying that Obama, or Clinton for that matter, are better prepared, just asking if you had a problem with Georgie's lack of experience.

THE OTHER STONE
by postalpez
May 13th, 2008
12:35:07 PM
heard from a friend that the new rocky they are thinking of will be ufc style.
What does this have to do with Dark Knight or Indy?
by MattmanReturns
May 13th, 2008
12:38:43 PM
Honestly.
Speaking of political talkback....
by FlickaPoo
May 13th, 2008
12:39:37 PM
...every racist gets their say today in West Virginia!...
Too skinny...
by GrandMuffTarkin
May 13th, 2008
12:40:39 PM
Seriously, Glenn is a living scarecrow. He'll need to thicken up around the face and neck to get the bulldog look that Rummy has
GARY COLE. You know it and I know it.
by Nosferatu Jones
May 13th, 2008
12:42:49 PM
I like Scott Glenn and all, but Gary Cole would have OWNED as Rumsfeld. If Glenn bows out for some reason, COLE IS DA MAN, BABY.
What a joke. Scott Glenn? Rummy is funny. Scott, not so much...
by anchorite
May 13th, 2008
12:43:25 PM
I heard a funny interview with Karl Rove yesterday where he was asked who he thought Stone was going to get to play him in the movie. He said he didn't care, that he movie was going to suck. And then the interviewer and Rove proceeded to make fun of this shitbag of a movie project for the next five minutes. Oliver Stone is more of a joke than Rove, Rummy, Bush or even Al Gore.
GrandMuffTarkin
by Mosquito March
May 13th, 2008
12:47:14 PM
The article in EW said they're putting prosthetics on the actors to make them look more accurate. I'm sure they can make Glenn look like Rumsfeld.
Rove?
by Colonel Activity
May 13th, 2008
12:50:07 PM
Do you mean the dipshit advisor to the most hated president in history? The guy who couldn't win the 2000 election? The guy who got curb-stomp in the 2006 mid-term elections? Please, Anchorite, tell me more about his genius...
Who gives a shit anymore?
by Brian_De_Man
May 13th, 2008
12:53:08 PM
Next 4 years will have another person in office people can blast for failures and never look at successes.
Too freakin soon
by lookleft
May 13th, 2008
12:55:01 PM
On a number of levels. Latest issue of EW says they begin filming in 2 weeks but: - the script is not finished - Several principles are still not yet cast - Stone wants to RELEASE it be NOVEMBER 2008. How in retardo world is this even possible? No love for Bush here, but I want a GOOD FUCKING MOVIE from Stone on this topic, not something he slaps together to make a point this fall.
Damn right Scott Glenn is cool.
by Sledge Hammer
May 13th, 2008
01:02:00 PM
More than that, he's both cool and can act, which is even more rare these days.

As for the film though, I'll wait and see. Everyone thought that Nixon was going to be some caricatured ranting conspiracy hack job too, and it actually turned out to be a pretty fair and measured dramatisation. So, we'll see.

pondscum
by doodah
May 13th, 2008
01:02:39 PM
gary busey would be a better hilary
pondscum
by doodah
May 13th, 2008
01:02:53 PM
gary busey would be a better hillary
Scott Glenn is great...
by Gwai Lo
May 13th, 2008
01:04:21 PM
But he looks nothing like Rumsfeld! What, was Nolte on a bender?
Also, Anthony Lapaglia should have been Bush
by Gwai Lo
May 13th, 2008
01:05:04 PM
He looks EXACTLY like him!
BraneRobot
by Colonel Activity
May 13th, 2008
01:06:05 PM
Ok, cock-boy. A Supreme Court ruling along partisan lines that says you can't do a state wide recount even though it is needed is not winning, you fucking piece of shit cocksucker. And 2002? Wasn't that the whole "if you don't agree with Bush, you're a terrorist enabler" campaign. You act like this was some genius strategy, when it had nothing to do with politics and everything to do with fear-mongering, you fucking pussy-coward-assfucking-republ ican-douche bag shit eater.
Will Smith would be a great Obama
by Al_Shut
May 13th, 2008
01:06:17 PM
he has the ears
Scott Glen Gotta Eat
by messi
May 13th, 2008
01:09:25 PM
fuck yeah.
Sorry
by Colonel Activity
May 13th, 2008
01:09:30 PM
Can't sympathize with sociopathic red-neck former male cheerleaders like Bush.
WHAT ABOUT DICK CHENEY?????
by NoPIX
May 13th, 2008
01:09:56 PM
Well I guess this is just going to be
by Series7
May 13th, 2008
01:10:35 PM
a talking piece, rather then a crazy NBK. Which all things considered is what a movie on W. should be like. That or its just going to be like Thats My Bush. Something tells me it won't come out in Oct.
I'd much rather watch a movie about Clinton
by Colonel Activity
May 13th, 2008
01:11:26 PM
At least there would be some successes based on the merits of his intellect and abilities instead of being based on what his grandpappy and daddy's names.
Danny...
by just pillow talk
May 13th, 2008
01:11:41 PM
That may be, but that romantic notion can be shoved up his ass for all I care.
This movie is such crap...
by viola123
May 13th, 2008
01:12:14 PM
I swear. I love "JFK" but Oliver Stone making this movie is just a load of crap. When was the last time Oliver Stone made ANYTHING good? Yeah, I'm thinking "JFK" too. He's desperate, trying to still stay in the political arena, wanting to fire up the public. It is sad and yeah, I might be defensive because it's about the President, but nonetheless. Oliver Stone is reaching and the script, the story? It's going to reek of it, too. No doubt. That "EW" cover made me boil!
Who plays Cheney?
by drewlicious
May 13th, 2008
01:12:15 PM
Any actor who gets the part is going to have a blast. He just has to be in perpetual contempt of all things. Paul Giamatti in makeup would be great. I just hope they don't go for the obvious like Ed Asner. They can do better than that. Then again unless this a satire the whole movie sounds terrible.
Colonel Activity
by just pillow talk
May 13th, 2008
01:12:46 PM
Plus there would be nookie in the White House.
More Quality Journalism From AICN
by Breadocide
May 13th, 2008
01:14:22 PM
W will sit nicely beside the other movies Ain't It Cool likes to pimp obsessively. I don't know about you other guys, but I can definitely see how this relates to all of geekdom, since most fans of comic books and Ghostbusters also happen to be obnoxious armchair pundits.

Oh wait, no they aren't. Four years from now when Oliver Stone is firing up his next totally relevant perfectly timed piece of shit, I look forward to reading articles by Harry and Co. that start with "Now I know W wasn't everyone's cup of tea, but I stand by what I said, blahblahblah fuck me, I really thought that film was oscar gold."

Just like Armageddon.
Do you think
by Series7
May 13th, 2008
01:15:33 PM
That he'll be able to get Fat Tim Curry to redo his role as The Lord of Darkness? Or do you think they'll go more towards Viggo as Lucifer like in The Prophecy?
Joe Pesci as Wolfowitz.
by Nosferatu Jones
May 13th, 2008
01:16:04 PM
'nuff said.
drewlicious
by doodah
May 13th, 2008
01:17:04 PM
they should just use cgi for cheney, because no respectable human being could do that role justice.
AICN is a journalism site?
by Colonel Activity
May 13th, 2008
01:17:25 PM
Really? I just thought it was opinion and the like? Such as, "Here's Batman's new suit. I like it. What do you guys think?" Huh. Tell me more about this journalism, Breadocide.
George Clinton as Bill Clinton
by DarfurOnTheRocks
May 13th, 2008
01:18:15 PM
Hey if Cate Blanchett can be Dylan then anything is possible!
Paul Newman Dead?
by jarjar_dinks
May 13th, 2008
01:18:46 PM
Hope this isn't true.
My Bad
by Breadocide
May 13th, 2008
01:18:48 PM
The word news in AICN threw me.

Won't happen again.
Satan to Play Rumsfield
by DarfurOnTheRocks
May 13th, 2008
01:18:50 PM
Baal to Play Cheney
by DarfurOnTheRocks
May 13th, 2008
01:19:12 PM
Actually I think Morgan Freeman would be a better Devil
by Series7
May 13th, 2008
01:20:03 PM
Like it would be a good Foil to his god role. It would be great to see Freeman playing kind of an evil overlord, telling W. what to do. And Chainy worshipping him so much, just what he is willing to sacrifice to please him. Freeman did a good job as a head mob boss in Slevin, and I mean he's already got that great bond with W. anyway, seeing that W. got most of his schooling from the Electric Company.
Palpatine to Play Wolferwitz
by DarfurOnTheRocks
May 13th, 2008
01:20:09 PM
Yes
by Breadocide
May 13th, 2008
01:20:21 PM
Forrest Gump fought in Vietnam, which Bush wasn't man enough to do.

Now it all makes sense.
Breadocide
by just pillow talk
May 13th, 2008
01:21:02 PM
Just FYI, this site covers a lot more than just comic book stuff. You can argue about how or the amount that they cover some stuff, but this is a MOVIE site, not a comic site.
Breadocide
by Colonel Activity
May 13th, 2008
01:21:45 PM
FOX News also contains the word 'news', yet we all know the truth about that modern-day Pravda.
The Super-Devil...
by Kid Z
May 13th, 2008
01:21:47 PM
...to play Cheney (and even then, he won't manage to convey enough pure, unadulterated, malevolent EVIL(!) by half!
Pillow Talk
by Breadocide
May 13th, 2008
01:22:48 PM
You're right. I'm just a bitter dick and really hate the idea of a film about a guy everyone already hates. It just seems opportunistic instead of poignant.

I went for chuckles instead of making any sort of actual point. Pretty sure the talkbacks are mostly full of child molesters and mercenaries, anyhow, so I don't think anyone will fault me on it.
Branestructure
by just pillow talk
May 13th, 2008
01:23:02 PM
"Libs won in 2006 by denigrating the troops and using fear as a tactic"

So are you implying that the Republicans, specifically Bush and his cronies, have NEVER used fear to their advantage?

You know
by Series7
May 13th, 2008
01:23:04 PM
Seeing that Stone does not care for spot on realism. I could see De Niro as Chainey, his got the same evil look and smile. Plus he is one of the few actors who would be able to protray the rage and anger that burns within ole Dick. Also one of the few who could handle the violent nature of Chainy and not make it too corny.
Breadocide
by just pillow talk
May 13th, 2008
01:24:35 PM
I hear ya on that. Bring on TDK, Indy, etc. I'm not looking forward to this movie either, but I guess one can be surprised by it.
very true Danny
by just pillow talk
May 13th, 2008
01:25:53 PM
I post very little to the TV side of things too. Those Lost people scare me.
Rummy's tongue twister
by fuck.wit
May 13th, 2008
01:27:07 PM
"Reports that say that something hasn't happened are always interesting to me, because as we know, there are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns -- the ones we don't know we don't know." :D
I was hoping for Robert Culp.
by Elston Gunn
May 13th, 2008
01:29:34 PM
Scott Glenn will be great, though.
BraneRobot
by Colonel Activity
May 13th, 2008
01:30:45 PM
LOL. Dude, you have no idea whaqt you're fucking talking about. It was Gore who would win the recount. A statewide recount would have Gore winning, you fucking loser. Welcome to reality. You must be living in Limbaugh's ass. If by denigrating the troops, you mean get them the fuck out of a civil war, then yeah, the Democratic Party did denigrate them. What fear did they use in 2006? The Republicans were running ads saying a vote of the Dems would get you killed. You fucking coward. Where are you? I want to beat you to death with a hammer, you fucking pussy.
Steve Buschemi to play the lead in Ratatouille
by DarfurOnTheRocks
May 13th, 2008
01:32:34 PM
Lee Van Cleef was sadly unavailable...
American Gladiator's Wolf to play Wolf...
by DarfurOnTheRocks
May 13th, 2008
01:33:17 PM
URBANCOWBOY
by HermesTrismestigus
May 13th, 2008
01:33:25 PM
That was Scott Glenn's best performance, he was a great asshole in that film. Oliver stone will wrap this movie up in 2 months then go on a coke addled editing spree and have this movie wrapped by september 1st. I'm just weary of all the close ups of lizards and rattlesnakes in Texas while oil spews in the background all over the prez to be.
BraneRobot
by Colonel Activity
May 13th, 2008
01:34:10 PM
72 million registered Democrats to 50 million-some registered Republicans. Good luck, cakeboy. Oh, and Michelle Obama? You're making fun of her looks? Laura Bush looks like Jack Nicholson as the Joker and Cindy McCain looks like a freeze-dried Stepford Wife. Michelle Obama is a smart and sexy woman, unlike those other freaks of nature.
Colonel Activity Wins
by Breadocide
May 13th, 2008
01:34:16 PM
"I want to beat you to death with a hammer, you fucking pussy."

I don't even care if the other guy was right.
He wants to get this out in October?
by Kurutteru Yatsu
May 13th, 2008
01:35:57 PM
And they're still casting? Yeah, good luck with that.
Pie and Chips.....
by DarfurOnTheRocks
May 13th, 2008
01:38:06 PM
Pie and Chips dude
I just can't believe that anyone....
by Herb West
May 13th, 2008
01:38:30 PM
would actually want to see a movie about this cunt right after we've all had to deal with his bullshit for almost a decade.
Yeah, I do care
by Colonel Activity
May 13th, 2008
01:40:07 PM
it's a shame that you're wrong. Name the fear mongering tactic that the Dems used. Here's something to help you with the Gore recount scandal. Review Method Winner Review of All Ballots Statewide (never undertaken) • Standard as set by each county Canvassing Board during their survey Gore by 171 • Fully punched chads and limited marks on optical ballots Gore by 115 • Any dimples or optical mark Gore by 107
Statewide recount =
by Colonel Activity
May 13th, 2008
01:42:19 PM
Gore victory. Moving on to the present, where the Democratic Party is going to clean house in 2008...ah, I love the smell of the most hated president in history; smells like...victory.
30 Million Dollars??!!
by BobParr
May 13th, 2008
01:45:37 PM
So the studio that in financing this really believes that this film will make at least 30 million?? This movie will make less than 2 million. It is starting to look like a 2 hour Saturday Night Live sketch.
Henry Fonda would have been a great Rumsfeld...
by anchorite
May 13th, 2008
01:46:39 PM
They even sound alike. Too bad Henry Fonda's been dead for over 25 years.
Henry Fonda
by Colonel Activity
May 13th, 2008
01:47:25 PM
Had too integrity to play such a complete fuck.
DANNYGLOVERS
by MattmanReturns
May 13th, 2008
01:48:32 PM
...But he IS stupid. Is that going to be the punchline of the movie?
"30 Million Dollars??!!"
by Shan
May 13th, 2008
01:48:50 PM
Must be a tax write off. Look for the hand of Uwe Boll in there somewhere (apparently European investors are involved).
IS it me, or do all these Republicans have beady little eyes!
by Jugdish
May 13th, 2008
01:51:15 PM
or shall I say "Greedy" little eyes.
"Libs won in 2006 by denigrating the troops and using fear as a
by Shan
May 13th, 2008
01:52:30 PM
... and it had nothing to do with the grotesque incompetence and corruption of the Republican Party in the last years. Is that what you're saying? I hope that God they pray to is real because I'm sure when he sees them, he's going to want to have words.
My big question . . .
by Nico Toscani
May 13th, 2008
01:56:46 PM
Will Josh Brolin be able to pronounce nuclear "newcular"?
in the last 6 years ...
by Shan
May 13th, 2008
01:56:53 PM
Why the hell does half the posts I do here come out half-baked? Well, my stuff ups aside, my point still stands.
For Cheney
by Gwai Lo
May 13th, 2008
01:58:30 PM
How about David Huddlestan? I think that's his name.. the real Lebowski from the Big Lebowski.. Maybe Robert Duvall? Albert Finney? James Gandolfini? haha, the scene where he shoots a guy in the face would be like something out of the Sopranos.
Voter fraud in Ohio, Diebold, Dubious election machines ...
by Shan
May 13th, 2008
01:58:40 PM
Strange how exit polls in the US never match the actual election results unlike any other Western Democracy.
For Clinton
by Gwai Lo
May 13th, 2008
01:59:19 PM
Because you know you have to have a Clinton cameo, even if he's just rockin' out on his saxophone in a scene or something... David Morse
New casting
by Ferris Beer-ler
May 13th, 2008
01:59:33 PM
I heard they just cast "Doomsday" in the movie after Michael Rosenbaum decided not to do it.
Michael Moore making F 911 sequel
by zacdilone
May 13th, 2008
02:02:47 PM
No big surprise there. It's the only movie of his since "Roger and Me" to do serious business. He's going back to the well another time because he desperately needs to be liked.
As for Al Gore, I think he now looks like a genius ...
by Shan
May 13th, 2008
02:03:40 PM
If he'd become President, I'm sure he would have been OK - but not a candidate for Mount Rushmore or anything like that. And things like these major economic crises he would have been blamed for too (though I think the Republican policies made them even worse). But after the debacle of the last 8 years, where George Bush has clearly not been qualified for the job, Al Gore's going to look like the greatest President we never had and get no blame for the unavoidable disasters that would have happened no matter who was President.
F-9/11 sequel....
by doodah
May 13th, 2008
02:05:10 PM
should just be called "moore" loose change, you know thats where he's going with it. anybody who hasnt seen it, check it out...its pretty cool from a "conspiracy" standpoint
I hear they have had an entire script re-write
by LargoJr
May 13th, 2008
02:08:22 PM
Now the film is simply 90 minutes of a chimpanzee flinging shit at a picture of his father, screaming in jealous petulant rage.
Gwai Lo
by Herb West
May 13th, 2008
02:08:39 PM
Yeah, do you remember that after that happened the guy Cheney shot was all over the news apologizing to Cheney and his family for being shot. Ridiculous. http://tinyurl.com/637bfu
Andy Milonakis
by Series7
May 13th, 2008
02:13:58 PM
For the Chainmister. Who do you think they'll get to be Jon Stewart or Colbert? Dennis Leary possibly?
I literally CANNOT believe
by Gwai Lo
May 13th, 2008
02:14:45 PM
That Cheney didn't resign after shooting some guy in the face. He's past retirement age anyway, isn't he? He's had heart problems? Oh wait, his heart would probably stop ticking if he didn't commit a daily dose of evil
Gwai Lo
by Series7
May 13th, 2008
02:18:57 PM
Dude that fact is going to be a new concept taught to all buisness majors, and probably spawn some new wave philosophy crap. Based on the idea of shooting someone in the face (purposely/accidentally?), and having them apologize to you.
Gore should have ran this year
by Gwai Lo
May 13th, 2008
02:20:12 PM
He's more qualified and more intelligent than Hillary or Obama. I like both Hillary and Obama actually, but Gore's resume is unfuckwittable. I feel like people are proud to be voting for a woman or a black person and losing sight of the quagmire the States has to dig itself out of.
Great Casting! but Great Movie?
by FleshMachine
May 13th, 2008
02:21:01 PM
we'll see...Stone's been quite the pussy lately.
Danny DeVito's Penguin for Cheney!
by Judge Briggs
May 13th, 2008
02:21:11 PM
Jason Alexander to play Cheney
by MontyPigeon
May 13th, 2008
02:21:22 PM
In full George Costanza mode too.
Not only did he apologize..
by Gwai Lo
May 13th, 2008
02:22:06 PM
That article makes it look like he apologized PROFUSELY. For getting shot in the face and causing pesky media attention to fall on the VICE FUCKING PRESIDENT, AKA THE GUN WIELDING MANIAC.
It's a shame
by jackofhearts29
May 13th, 2008
02:22:35 PM
that Jack Palance is dead. I could see him as Rummy.
John Leguizamo for Cheney
by Gwai Lo
May 13th, 2008
02:24:47 PM
Reprising his role from Spawn
Bill Clinton Biopic
by BG7
May 13th, 2008
02:25:05 PM
Isn't that being handled by Vivid?
There won't be an actor playing Cheney.
by samsquanch
May 13th, 2008
02:27:44 PM
Instead, The presence of Cheney will be portrayed by the abstract concept of human evil, much like the man's actual vice-presidency.
Node32774
by Series7
May 13th, 2008
02:28:12 PM
Thats becaus the deal the republicans have with the Super Devil supersedes the deal the Democrates have with just the Devil.
emperor palpatine for cheney
by palewook
May 13th, 2008
02:28:42 PM
Scptt Glen as Zod in Superman returns again:The Donner Cut
by joeelliott
May 13th, 2008
02:33:04 PM
He would rock
November release?
by JiveTalker
May 13th, 2008
02:34:16 PM
Glenn is genius casting, but I still just don't get how they are going to pull this off. If they only cast what I presume will be a pretty major role as of last week, how the hell are they gonna get this thing RELEASED in six friggin months? Hell, it would be a miracle to even have the thing completely shot and edited by then, let alone distributed. Does Stone have his poor crew chained in some basement working day and night on this thing?
Always thought Nick Nolte looked like Rummy
by Chishu_Ryu
May 13th, 2008
02:39:24 PM
Tony Shaloub for Khaddafi
by Barnabus
May 13th, 2008
02:41:44 PM
You know, the Libyan dictator?
Unless this is going to be used as evidence in his war crime tri
by wintocha67
May 13th, 2008
02:47:55 PM
I don't see the point or why anyone would want to see a movie presenting Bush's high crimes and our complete idiocy in buying his propaganda and our complete lack of effort in impeaching and soon our unwillingness to try him and his cronies for war crimes.
I See....
by JBouganim1
May 13th, 2008
02:48:34 PM
Rutger Haur as Rumsfield. Anyone with me?
Samuel Jackson
by Series7
May 13th, 2008
02:49:16 PM
will be Dick Chainey.
TOO SOON!
by auraboy
May 13th, 2008
02:49:44 PM
Well obviously. Stone would probably make a great retrospective movie of this president in 10-15 years time, but they never work on the ass end of the reality. It'll just be a sketch show. Nixon showed it could work, but you need some space for movies to work.
Just checking...
by auraboy
May 13th, 2008
02:51:17 PM
Can you have Nazi leftists? My political science might be drifting
Stewart will make fun of Obama for not being commie enough
by Darth_Inedible
May 13th, 2008
02:52:42 PM
That's how the Daily show operates when dealing with fellow travelers.
Casting
by auraboy
May 13th, 2008
02:54:44 PM
Calista Flockheart as the pretzel that was almost W's undoing.
Karl Rove= PHILLIP SEYMOUR HOFFMAN!!!
by TedSallis
May 13th, 2008
02:54:48 PM
Karl Rove= PHILLIP SEYMOUR HOFFMAN
by TedSallis
May 13th, 2008
02:56:15 PM
Love Oliver Stone's work
by Buck Turgidson
May 13th, 2008
03:01:30 PM
Really looking forward to this movie.
W
by fassbinder79
May 13th, 2008
03:01:37 PM
I am a huge fan of Oliver Stone's films (everything he made before WTC and Alexander anyway.) If he gives Bush the Nixon treatment (which is one of my top 3 favorite films of all time) then I'll be very excited. So, far his casting choices appear to be spot on (with the exception of Elizabeth Banks) I really can't see her as Laura Bush; especially after Joan Allen's brilliant turn as Patricia Nixon. I also didn't like the first few pages of the script that leaked out. But if he's got Robert Richardson shooting I'll back this film 100%. Ever since RR stopped lensing Stone's films I've felt that something was missing. Stone if you are reading this (I'm a longtime fan) do whatever you can to get RR DP'ing. The two of you made an incredible team. Please get him back!!!!!!
Leftwing propaganda like 9/11 being an inside job..
by Darth_Inedible
May 13th, 2008
03:02:10 PM
Yea those are very factual arguments. And there's absolutely no emotionalism in Michael Moore's propaganda. But even if there were this is ok because Moore is spreading hate and loathing against American Imperialism and the evil, vile, horrific capitalist system that has given us the tools to spew our stupid arguments on this forum.
Phillip Seymour Hoffman
by auraboy
May 13th, 2008
03:02:42 PM
Let's face it he could play anyone. Anyone. The man is a chameleon. A chameleon I say. As long as it's someone slightly tubby and with a sweaty face.
KARL ROVE = THE STEAMING PILE...
by Hawaiian Organ Donor
May 13th, 2008
03:06:59 PM
of shit that Bill Paxton turned into in Weird Science. Dust that old prop off and give it a casting credit.
Stone needs to get his eyes examined
by J-Dizzle
May 13th, 2008
03:08:49 PM
He looks nothing like Rumsfeld.
RE: Scott Glenn
by fassbinder79
May 13th, 2008
03:10:25 PM
Just to stay on topic...Glenn is one of the most underrated actors working. His work in Silverado (if all was fair in the world) should have earned him an Oscar. His manager Johnny Planco is also one of the coolest and most brilliant people I have ever had the pleasure to meet...And he clearly knew what he was doing getting SG attached to this project. Keep in mind people that regardless of what you might think of Bush...Stone on a good day gets some of the best work out of actors you will ever see. Brolin is an on a roll right now and he'll probably win his first oscar for this film I predict.
OK, pundits, back to casting discussion
by Gwai Lo
May 13th, 2008
03:10:51 PM
Dave Çhapelle as Condoleeza
No wait
by Gwai Lo
May 13th, 2008
03:12:22 PM
Tyler Perry as Condoleeza
fassbinder79
by Series7
May 13th, 2008
03:12:26 PM
Nixon is one of your top 3 favorite films of all time? What are you like 60+? A history teacher? Are you a History teacher? Does Berlin Alexanderplatz take up spots 4-10?
Casting for Cheney...
by ZoeFan
May 13th, 2008
03:14:50 PM
They asked Duval, however he turned down the role due to the fact he felt it embarrassed the office and because he leans right in his beliefs. Right now there's an offer out to Giamati.
Phillip Seymour Hoffman can also play anything
by Hawaiian Organ Donor
May 13th, 2008
03:15:15 PM
In fact, he's playing my computer monitor right now. And I thought the one I had at home was a widescreen.
fassbinder79'S right RE: Scott Glenn in SILVERADO
by slone13
May 13th, 2008
03:16:12 PM
What a great movies that was. This "W" one, though, I really couldn't care less about.
AICN is always Late on News
by sleeptones
May 13th, 2008
03:18:06 PM
comingsoon.net
Series7
by fassbinder79
May 13th, 2008
03:18:15 PM
For better or worse here are my top ten films of all time. These are my personal favorites by the way...Not the films I consider the best ever made which is different. I'm 28 years old by the way. Here my personal faves: 1. Grand Hotel 2. An American Werewolf In London 3. Nixon 4. I Only Want You To Love Me (Fassbinder) 5. Frenzy 6. Blue Velvet 7. Ragtime 8. THX1138 9. Turkish Delight 10. Killing Of A Chinese Bookie Best Films Ever Made: 1. Citizen Kane 2. Rear Window 3. Berlin Alexanderplatz 4. Jaws 5. The Naked Spur 6. Singing In The Rain 7. Vertigo 8. Once Upon A Time In The West 9. Barry Lyndon 10. Casablanca What are your picks?
Conspiracy
by auraboy
May 13th, 2008
03:20:30 PM
Phillip Seymour Hoffman to play Jon Stewart doing his Cheney duck impression whilst interviewing Samule L Jackson (who has to be in every movie). Or something. You know a lot of radical Islamic websites still claim 9/11 was an inside job. Which goes to prove that everyone is a fuckhead. You want Osama to be praised for doing it but obviously the infidels did it to themselves first. Phillip Seymour Hoffman to play Bin Laden. He was already familiar with Afghanistan from that great movie with Tom Hanks in.
Rumsfeld Was Cool
by A-COD
May 13th, 2008
03:20:35 PM
You may hate him and that's fine but Rumsfeld is cool. He used to have a daily press conference for about a year after 911. They were essential viewing, he would get all these nonsensical questions and give these curt "you just don't get it" type answers.
They should dig up Benny Hill to play Cheney
by Hawaiian Organ Donor
May 13th, 2008
03:21:02 PM
Have him shoot the old bald guy in the face and then run around the swamp chasing half-naked women to zany music.
DannyGlovers_Dickblood
by fassbinder79
May 13th, 2008
03:24:00 PM
I respect your opinion...But for me An American Werewolf In London is a masterpiece. Its the mainstream/commercial equivalent of a Bunuel film...Which is the kind of movies I want to make.
fassbinder
by Hawaiian Organ Donor
May 13th, 2008
03:26:14 PM
I'm not knocking it (in fact, kudos for your movie moxie, kid), but that is easily the most "I gotta go take a 30 minute dump just to wrap my mind around it" list of favorite movies I have ever seen.
Hawaiian Organ Donor
by fassbinder79
May 13th, 2008
03:30:13 PM
All I can say is those are movies I can watch anytime and get something new out of them or they continue to have the same visceral impact they had on me the first time I saw them. What is your top ten in both categories? I would also add that while you might see those films a "30 minute dump" list...They inspired me to be a filmmaker. I would also add Blazing Saddles to my list of personal faves as well...I know every line of dialogue in that film by heart.
that picture of Glenn is misleading
by TheMcflyFarm
May 13th, 2008
03:33:18 PM
Hell, any picture is. Silence of the Lambs, 1991, looked thirty years old. Training Day, 2001, looked 60. The Bourne Ultimatum, 2007, looked 125 years old (and a little like William Hickey as well)
Barry Bostwick!
by The_Samaritan
May 13th, 2008
03:33:27 PM
Seriously, they look and sound identical!
Gotta love those mindless LIBERALS...
by ccchhhrrriiisssm
May 13th, 2008
03:33:49 PM
...they love to make movies based upon their own warped sense of "history."

Or maybe this is how they WISH history would go?

Who knows? But Oliver Stone probably also believes that Barack Hussein Obama is "highly qualified" (after just 3 years in office -- most of which was spent playing "hookie" campaigning) for the highest office in the land -- the President of the United States and Commander-in-Chief of this nation's military. I bet that Oliver Stone also believes all of that mindless tripe spewed by the Left about how "unborn babies are not even alive."

I guess that there is a sucker born every minute -- and hyper-Liberals love to prey upon them!
Cast the Bush Twins please!
by Baron Karza
May 13th, 2008
03:35:13 PM
Num.
ccchhhrrriiisssm - is the dumbest person on here.
by www.valiens.com
May 13th, 2008
03:36:48 PM
Or was. I just replaced you by pointing out the obvious. That is all.
Danny and fassbinder
by Hawaiian Organ Donor
May 13th, 2008
03:40:46 PM
Don't get me wrong, there's some great movies on there. It's just not the type of conventional list one usually sees. The personal faves list is quite a bit different from the best films list. There's at least two in the best films list I'd include in my own list, if I had one.

No Country For Old Men wouldn't crack my top 500. I have no idea what I did to incur Roger Murtaugh's anger. Sheesh.

Fass
by Series7
May 13th, 2008
03:43:39 PM
Good call on THX i love that movie, (didn't realize how big of a Lucas nerd Trent Reznor was). And I ain't got no problem with your other choices either. Can't say I've seen them all, I really want to see Turkish Delight though. I don't have a set in stone top ten. I got a couple of solid favs though: Toy Story, Metropolis, Brazil, City Of Lost Children, Series7, Kong/Frighteners/Feebles, RAMBO (new one), Leon/5th Element, Airplane. I have more of a favorite directors then movies, plus I just can't dig all the great oldies. As for giving a list of best movies ever made, I feel that I am missing a couple of huge gaps in the classics to really give a good list. I am only 24.
ccchhhrrriiisssm you cocksucking conservative
by LiberalWarrior
May 13th, 2008
03:44:03 PM
You and your kind should be rounded up skull fucked with a high pressure hose.
I'm going to make a movie called HATE...
by ccchhhrrriiisssm
May 13th, 2008
03:44:23 PM
...and it will star every mindless hyper-Liberal on the planet!

It will star Michael Moore, Al Gore, John Kerry, Satan, Teddy Kennedy, Barack Obama, half the populations of San Francisco and Boston, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, most Hollywood celebrities, and a bunch of crazy communists and Frenchmen!

No filming will be necessary. We can simply clip all of the HATE speech that is constantly played in "news" media outlets like CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, NBC, along with those found online at the Washington Post and New York Times.

Who knows -- maybe people will understand where all of this vilification of the Bush Administration comes from once they see it in one happy film coming straight from the asses and mouths (hard to tell the difference) of hyper-Liberal leftists everywhere!

The film can end with a nice photo of Jesus Christ being pissed on by some artist screaming, "Taste some of my golden tolerance, you bigot Jesus. If you want, I'll crap on you too!"

p.s. - I like to parody the mindless puke that vomits from the mouth of liberals in the TB. Their silly notions, along with their ability to pat one another on the back for their "clever" hateful rhetoric mingled with calls for "tolerance" as they attempt to redefine history is simply amusing. Oliver Stone and Michael Moore must be so proud!
And fassbinder
by Hawaiian Organ Donor
May 13th, 2008
03:44:54 PM
I know this will sound crazy but I don't think I could come up with my list of favorite movies. I think 12 Angry Men and Dr. Strangelove are the only 2 movies I could watch a couple times a year if that's any indication.
When Obama loses the general election...
by ccchhhrrriiisssm
May 13th, 2008
03:46:13 PM
...by 50 Electoral College votes (mark it on your calendar -- you heard it here first), Oliver Stone will be left scratching his head saying, "WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED?!?"

lol

It is fun to see how unattached to reality hyper-Liberals can become!
ccchhhrrriiisssm
by fassbinder79
May 13th, 2008
03:47:19 PM
I am probably opening myself to getting attacked by every talkbacker on here but Barack is our only hope this election cycle. So, I'm guessing McCain is who you would like us all to vote for? McCain = Pro Nafta and Pr Cafta McCain = Free Trade With China McCain = Pro Death Penalty McCain = Beach Boy song covers of how we should bomb iran: http://obamavsmccain.typepad.c om/my_weblog/2008/03/john-mcca in-say.html McCain = Currently under investigation for violating campaign finance laws McCain = Doesn't know shit about the economy and has admitted so on several occasions. McCain = Despite being a military veteran himself, he has not signed on to Sen. Jim Webb's veteran bill, which would provide better care and benefits for returning war vets McCain = Children's Defense Fund rated McCain as the worst senator in Congress for children. McCain voted against the children's health care bill last year, then defended Bush's veto of the bill. McCain = McCain's solution to the housing crisis is for people facing foreclosure to get a "second job" and skip their vacations. McCain = A decrease in corportate taxes. McCain = a fucked up gas tax idea 7,000 people out of work in NC and lose 300,000 jobs across the country. McCain = A ZERO from the League Of Conservation voters with his terribly fucking environmental record McCain = a 100 FUCKING YEAR WAR IN IRAQ WITH NO END IN SIGHT WHILE OUR BRAVE TROOPS ARE OUT THERE DYING FOR US EVERY SINGLE DAY...FUCK MCCAIN AND FUCK HILLARY Obama '08 all the way!!!!
McCain = 299; Obama = 239
by ccchhhrrriiisssm
May 13th, 2008
03:48:24 PM
...in the Electoral College tally. You heard it here first!

Of course, Obama will demand a recount!

ccchhhrrriiisssm
by Colonel Activity
May 13th, 2008
03:48:59 PM
Yeah, he didn't have the experience of making fun of women crying because they're going to be executed like Bush has. Or the experience of getting into Harvard with an academic record that couldn't get him into South Dakota State University. Or the experience of being a cheerleader. Or a complete fuck-up in business. Or the experience of being drunk of 20+ years. Or...well, you get the idea.
Obama winning????
by Prossor
May 13th, 2008
03:50:24 PM
He aint gonna win i'm sure. No matter how many times he repeats hooope and CHAAAANge ad nauseum people will be in the ballot booth and then reality will set in, a President Black Dude Obama? Get the fuck outta here!!
You're pretty safe here, fass
by Hawaiian Organ Donor
May 13th, 2008
03:52:20 PM
Lots of liberal loonies around here that will agree with you.

I might be able to watch Raising Arizona and The Apartment every six months as well.

Attention, people trying to debate Branerobot:
by DocPazuzu
May 13th, 2008
03:52:47 PM
He used to call himself Thunderballs and Animalstructure. This freak is a complete fascist monster. Here is a couple of things he's said in the past in talkback:

"Milosevic got a bad rap. He was just trying to save his country from Muslim invaders."

"There is no such thing as a right-wing dictatorship."

He also had this to say about the massacre in Srebrenica:

"If you want to make an omelette you have to break a few eggs."

He's also been known to refer to George W Bush as a "liberal", and Nazis as "leftists". Also, since Nazis were anti-smoking and Hitler a vegetarian, "liberals are Nazis." AnimalBraneBalls also condones the use of genocide as a political tool in war if American interests are at stake.

He's one of the few truly evil talkbackers in AICN and the world would be a better place if he got run over by a bus today. Preferably three or four times. Y'know, just to make sure.

This public service announcement has been brought to you by the CoC.

OBAMA!!!!
by Gus Van Rant
May 13th, 2008
03:52:52 PM
Is a long legged MAC DADDY!!!
fassbinder79...
by ccchhhrrriiisssm
May 13th, 2008
03:53:01 PM
Did you go to college? Did you get an "F" in Political Science?

Damn, you are a moron! Can you even name a SINGLE, SPECIFIC POLICY that Obama will bring (and how he plans to implement it)?

Of course not. Why? Because the inexperienced, unqualified Senator is banking on the ignorance of some portions of the American voters. HE HAS NO PLAN.

It would be best for Obama to go back to work in Tony Rezko's slums as he dines with rich, elitist TERRORISTS (like the Weatherman Bomber) as he continues to listen to the racist HATE SPEECH flowing from the mouth of his 20 year "Audacity of Hope" lying weasel of a pastor. THEN...let him come back and run again when he can do anything more than simply better articulate all of the speeches that he STOLE from other people.

Have a nice day. :-)
Pondscum
by Series7
May 13th, 2008
03:55:56 PM
Yeah I pretty much like all of that looney frenchies movie. I enjoy A4, though the more I've thought about it, and how that movie was. It almost makes sense that AVP turned out that way. Speaking of which, Predator to play Chainey?
ccchhhrrriiisssm - you ignorant armadillo twat
by LiberalWarrior
May 13th, 2008
03:56:28 PM
I noticed you did not list FOX anywhere on your pathetic rant, you hill billy butt boy!

If you are gonna tar media with one brush you better brush them all!

fassbinder79...
by ccchhhrrriiisssm
May 13th, 2008
03:57:57 PM
Ummm...sorry for calling you a "moron" bro. I just get so angry when Gallup polled 2,046 Obama supporters and less than 3% of them could name a single policy "change" that Obama would bring to the White House.

As a black man, I am offended by his constant play and speeches on race -- and his refusal to own up to just how unlike most African Americans he is! My mother said that she has waited for the day when a real black man can become President. She told me on Mother's Day that she will still wait for that day -- even if Obama happened to win the election.

Barack Hussein Obama doesn't represent African Americans. He represents the slum lords like Tony Rezko who keep Blacks in poverty.
While I don't agree politically with ccchhhrrriiisssm
by Hawaiian Organ Donor
May 13th, 2008
03:58:13 PM
I do agree with his projection that McCain will win in the general election. When push comes to shove, the idiot American voter will go with an Alzheimer patient over someone who might actually be able to get us out of the mess we're in.

And Children of Men rocks. The Departed was good but Chilluns was robbed.

Here is some policy for you, ccchhhrrriiisssm
by fassbinder79
May 13th, 2008
03:58:28 PM
http://www.barackobama.com/pdf /ObamaBlueprintForChange.pdf Don't FUCK with a Barack supporter or you'll get the horns: Barack On The Issues http://www.ontheissues.org/Bar ack_Obama.htm He was against the Iraq war from the start. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =sXzmXy226po He is for diplomacy first with Iran. Barack is willing to stand up to the wealthy on Wall Street: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =b6PPZMpc-e0 He wants to end tax breaks for companies that send jobs overseas. Barack On The Environment: http://www.barackobama.com/iss ues/environment/ Barack On Energy: http://www.barackobama.com/iss ues/energy/ Barack On Technology And Innovation: http://www.barackobama.com/iss ues/technology/ Barack Cares About Our Veterans: http://www.barackobama.com/iss ues/veterans/ He will close Guantanamo and restore the right of habeas corpus. Barack has the strongest support from Independents and Republicans (a necessity for a democrat to win in the general election.) http://www.slate.com/blogs/blo gs/convictions/archive/2008/03 /23/endorsing-obama.aspx He is against torture. He wants to unite both parties and end the red/blue state divide. He is supported by the top foreign policy advisors in the world: http://www.allamericanpatriots .com/48739838_over-60-foreign- policy-experts-endorse-barack- obama-president He will end the war in Iraq: http://www.barackobama.com/iss ues/iraq/ Symbolically his race/background would represent the most profoundly positive shift in how America is viewed around the world. He will be honest with the American people telling them "what they need to hear not what they want to hear." Barack doesn't take any money from PACs or lobbyists. Barack Health Care Record: http://thinkonthesethings.word press.com/2007/11/27/barack-ob amas-health-care-record-the-ma king-of-the-health-care-presid ent/   Bills Barack Sponsored:   1. http://www.ilga.gov/senate/Sen atorBills.asp?GA=93&MemberID=7 47   2. http://www.nytimes.com/imagepa ges/2007/07/29/us/politics/200 70730_OBAMA_GRAPHIC.html Barack served 8 years in the Illinois State Senate. Michael T. Cushman's blog on Barack's senate experience vs. Hillary's: http://my.barackobama.com/page /community/post/michaelcushman /CJvr Barack promises that all seniors making 50,000 dollars a year or less will not have to pay income taxes. He still wants to go into Afghanistan and get Bin Laden. Barack will put an end to the genocide in Darfur. Barack will give the country a health care system that works and he won't face the same gridlock that HRC did in the 90's because he is open to working with Republicans. He is also opposed to a mandate (like the one in Clinton and Edwards' plans) which would require many Americans to pay rates that many could not afford. He has battled legislatively against the death penalty. In Washington, he has worked with Republicans on nuclear proliferation, government waste and global warming. Barack believes in full and complete transparency of government. He stands faithfully by our rights in the constitution. Barack taught constitutional law for ten years.
This film will be cool, if it's a satire type of movie...
by BLEST
May 13th, 2008
03:59:10 PM
I'll be interested to see it. But bringing it out 3 weeks before the elections will mean zilch.

Is there anybody out there that really believes the America-hating Pastor's friend who goes lapel flag pinless and has friends like Ayers is really going to beat the conservative Maverick war hero McCain?

Things look rosy now, but Obama will get trounced in the debates, bank on it.

Oh and for politics
by Series7
May 13th, 2008
03:59:45 PM
The Democrates are fucking retards for not being able to convice Al Gore to run for president. You know if he did, he would have won. The Democrats need to learn to stop sucking up to everything and just stick to their guns, America likes people that are sure (even if they aren't right). Non of this flip floppy pussy stuff. What ever, back to learning Chinese.
LiberalWarrior...
by ccchhhrrriiisssm
May 13th, 2008
03:59:57 PM
Go fuck your hyper-Liberal boyfriend, you hateful clone! I didn't mention Fox because Fox doesn't repeat over and over again the HATE BUSH rhetoric of your favorite Liberal extremists!
nothing is funnier than politics in Talkback
by antonphd
May 13th, 2008
04:00:40 PM
Obama is going to be President. And once this country goes black.
fassbinder79...
by ccchhhrrriiisssm
May 13th, 2008
04:01:48 PM
Did you ever READ that nonsense, bro?

Obama is just spoonfeeding promises to the ignorant masses! He doesn't offer "change." He offers promises that he hasn't even articulated how he will bring it about.

Nice try, Obama butt buddy.
Yeah we really need another 70 plus year old
by LiberalWarrior
May 13th, 2008
04:02:04 PM
Falling asleep with his finger on the button!

The drool alone will short circuit the mothafuckin 'football' and airmail ten tons of 'kiss your ass goodbye' to whoever called him cactus fucking pig - last!

Yeah might be funny!

Obama Is Going To Win...
by fassbinder79
May 13th, 2008
04:03:56 PM
...Because McCain will pick Condoleeza Rice as his VP to break into some of Barack support among African Americans. Its the only hope he's got if Barack picks a female VP like Gov. Sebellius. Both Hillary and Barack have brought in more new and old supporters that the entire Republican race combined which is why the MSM is so afraid of Barack clinching the nomination because THEY KNOW HE WILL WIN! The only way to stop Barack is cut away at some his support base. He has been winning the black vote recently by 90% (something he had to earn by the way). Black voters in the beginning were extremely skeptical of him many people seem to have forgotten. McCain's only hope is a black VP and when this happens and he picks Condi (the person he will trust most because of her loyal ties to Bush) McCain will go down in flames.
Obama is a elitist DICK.
by ccchhhrrriiisssm
May 13th, 2008
04:04:55 PM
'Nuff said.

Suck it if you want, but be warned about the sores that you will develop in your mouth.

It's called an LTD (Liberal Transmitted Disease). Symptoms include ranting, hate disguised as a call for tolerance, lying about conservatives, and shit for brains.
ccchhhrrriiisssm - you're dumber than zombie shit
by LiberalWarrior
May 13th, 2008
04:05:11 PM
Fried zombie shit at that!

So, Obama only makes promises and mccain makes guarantees? Bullshit!

Only guarantee mccain made was to charles keating. Go look it up.

Banerobot
by Colonel Activity
May 13th, 2008
04:06:24 PM
is that Animalstructure douche bag? How do you know? God, I hate that guy. Also, name one thing McCain has done, besides flip-flop on every issue that made him a "maverick".
Hawaiian Organ Donor
by fassbinder79
May 13th, 2008
04:06:30 PM
I'm with you on Children Of Men. But I'm happy Scorsese finally got an Oscar. Long overdue. Cuaron will have other chances.
Is there anyone more out of touch...
by Mr. Nice Gaius
May 13th, 2008
04:06:45 PM
...with reality than BraneRobot and ccchhhrrriiisssm? I mean, I've seen some classic Right Wing talking points and circular politics in my day but those two are unbelievable.

Oh, and before I forget...

Keelhaul, usscygnus!!!

Actually fassbinder79, a poll on MSNBC
by BLEST
May 13th, 2008
04:08:32 PM
shows that if McCain picks Condi, he could beat an Obama/Clinton COMBINED ticket.

In liberal New York no less, where the poll was taken.

Not trying to stir stuff up, just giving you the facts.

McCain is going to win. Obama isn't electable enough with the general public. (though he is better than Hillary)

LiberalWarrior
by fassbinder79
May 13th, 2008
04:08:33 PM
Those are some hilarious posts! :)
An elite?
by Colonel Activity
May 13th, 2008
04:09:17 PM
His mom was on foodstamps at one point, he was raised by his grandparents, he just recently payed off his student loans...and this guy is an elite? Isn't McCain a son of an admiral? Didn't he fuck up constantly at the naval academy? Isn't he married to the heir to a beer distribution fortune? Seriously, beating you people is like shooting fish in a barrell that doesn't have any water in it.
gotham_night...DEMOCRATS prefer little boys...
by ccchhhrrriiisssm
May 13th, 2008
04:10:26 PM
Just Google "Gus Savage" "Fred Richmond" and "Gerry Studds." Democrats went on to re-elect Gerry Studds 6 times after he admitted to having "an affair" with an underage teenage boy.
Blest
by fassbinder79
May 13th, 2008
04:10:31 PM
You're right that the polls have been saying that and that is why McCain will pick her. But the problem McCain faces by picking Condi is he cancels out any race baiting the republicans could have done against Obama. And when it becomes a election on the issues...Barack will win. The fact is McCain has had a free ride right now. All that will change in the next two months.
Condi aint gonna make no difference
by LiberalWarrior
May 13th, 2008
04:11:16 PM
First, she aint got no love from conservatives.

Second, she aint gonna pull the black vote because blacks will know that she is only on the ballot to do just that!

Third, she would be re-fried beans to Obamas Stuffed Enchilada!

He would be the Ma, and she would be second fiddle to and old, broken down, brainwashed by five years in captivity (though I honor his service), hot tempered hypocrite (see charles keating).

He aint gonna win!

Blest
by fassbinder79
May 13th, 2008
04:12:07 PM
One more thing...All the polls I have seen including a Wall Street Journal one put together those numbers with Hillary assumed as Barack's VP. Republicans and many independents HATE HRC. As long as Barack doesn't pick her he'll be fine.
Hugh Grant as Tony Blair
by kevred
May 13th, 2008
04:13:23 PM
He's still charming enough to charm the audience, which will make his fall to being a lockstep toady in the Iraq debacle jarring, as it was in real life.
Colonel Activity
by fassbinder79
May 13th, 2008
04:13:39 PM
"Seriously, beating you people is like shooting fish in a barrell that doesn't have any water in it." Now that is some funny shit.
States the Obama will win
by Colonel Activity
May 13th, 2008
04:14:22 PM
Washingtion, Oregon, California, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Iowa, Illinois, Missouri, Michigan, Indiana, Louisana, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Virgina, New York, Vermont, Maine, Rhode Island, New Jersey, Conneticut, South Carolina, North Carolina, Georgie, Florida, Hawaii...yup, McCain's got it sewed up. LOL
Oh and
by Colonel Activity
May 13th, 2008
04:17:23 PM
and I forgot Massachusetts. 353 electoral votes for Obama.
My experience talking politics so far...
by drewlicious
May 13th, 2008
04:18:11 PM
A lot of people have no sense of humor when it comes to politics. Ironically those that veer farther to the left and love the Daily Show (like I do) get dead serious and just plain mean when they come across an opinion that differs. Why is that? Don't believe me? Go look at the talkbackers at the Huffington Post, especially when the subject is Jenna Bush's wedding. When does a simple disagreement turn into festering hatred exactly? And in case anyone is planning on flaming me and calling me a rightwinger just keep in mind I am independent and am just irritated with the way things are a normal person is.
BraneRobot - you ignorant mouse twiddle
by LiberalWarrior
May 13th, 2008
04:18:44 PM
I am a LIBERAL and I fukkken hate conservatives - whether you are a neocon, a paulist or a bible-in-one-hand-gun-in-the-o ther, hedge hog fuckin hypocrite!

All of yall are pieces of zombie shit!

BTW Colonel Activity
by drewlicious
May 13th, 2008
04:21:21 PM
Excellent point regarding Obama being called an elitist. I don't consider him an elitist myself but I am aware that he does humor them. It's the nature of the beast.
I will say this...
by fassbinder79
May 13th, 2008
04:21:56 PM
Many of us may disagree about where our country should go...But I am proud to see people care. And its refreshing to have a political debate on a non-political website. It means people are paying attention..And how can that be bad?
Given the Hits that these BS stories generate...
by DevilCat
May 13th, 2008
04:22:06 PM
...why wouldn't Harry post more stories about this movie. It puts his clicks, and ad revenue, through the roof.
wow. cchhrriissm is back.
by samsquanch
May 13th, 2008
04:22:15 PM
Thought you had given up for good, you cross-eyed lunatic.
Obama is racist?
by Colonel Activity
May 13th, 2008
04:26:16 PM
Fuck, his white grandparents that raised him shouldn't have made him such a racist. God damn them!!
Oliver Stone
by fassbinder79
May 13th, 2008
04:28:12 PM
I think this talkback should give Stone the courage to make his film. A dialogue like the one people are having on these boards today (even when it gets heated) is healthy. Hopefully his film will live up to that kind of debate.
I saw somewhere
by Colonel Activity
May 13th, 2008
04:28:46 PM
this polling guy, who's been accurate throughout the primary season (even calling Indiana 51-49 for Clinton) had a map of 2004 and then calculated the polling numbers in 2008 AND THEN factored in the extra youth vote and black vote. Even the worst case scenerio for Obama had him killing McCain.
This is interesting as hell....
by Colonel Activity
May 13th, 2008
04:32:20 PM
http://tinyurl.com/5bzbn4 It's about Obama cleaning house...AWESOME!!
gotham night - you diseased pustule on the ass of a baboon
by LiberalWarrior
May 13th, 2008
04:33:35 PM
Go whack off on your batman poster.

by manicart1
May 13th, 2008
04:35:41 PM
I can't help but get the feeling that this film may be counter productive. What if it galvanises support for the Republicans by coming across as a poorly conceived liberal diatribe? Conservatives may gripe about how the 'liberal media' unfairly demonises them but what else can we on the left do but make movies? Right wingers are the ones who run all the governments, own all the banks, own all the companies we work for, own the businesses that make all our food. The list goes on! And any time we liberals even dare suggest that, y'know, some of you guys may not be all that nice you leap right down our throats. Any time any scientist or politician dares put their head above the parapet and suggest that our planet might just be being cooked to a cinder by global warming they are told angrily to shut up. I simply do not understand why you right wing folks feel so threatened when you are armed with tanks against pebbles.
Obama Is A Good Politician
by LaserPants
May 13th, 2008
04:37:24 PM
Whether or not he will be a good leader remains to be seen. But I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. He's got my vote.
playing the guy who fucked up U.S. supremacy
by pipergates
May 13th, 2008
04:37:26 PM
takes guts
DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
by fassbinder79
May 13th, 2008
04:38:06 PM
My support for Obama comes from before he started running for President. Barack spoke in very specific and eloquent terms about our need to invest in alternative fuels. Not simply to get us off of foreign oil but to create a product/export that other countries could depend on us for as opposed to the other way around. This is something he truly believes in and it is a necessity for our economy (we are on the verge of a depression like after the crash in 29 very soon) and for our stability in regards to relationships with other countries. I also respect Barack's message of uniting the two parties and I DO NOT support an across the board mandated health care plan like the one Edwards and Hillary proposed that would charge people 2,200 dollars month whether they wanted the health care or not. I also respect the fact that Barack was against the war from the start and when it wasn't politically convenient for him to have that position running for the Senate. He also predicted what would happen specifically and all of his predictions on Iraq, Pakistan and Iran have come to pass. He has also run the best and most organized campaign of any of the candidates raising unbelievably large sums of money from SMALL DONORS. That by itself should tell you alot about how he will run his government. He honors the constitution and he has the best plan for dealing with our environmental crisis since Al Gore. The "Change" and "Yes We Can" mottos may sound hoakey at times but just because it sounds silly doesn't mean it won't happen. He also doesn't take any money from PAC or lobbyists.
great casting
by maverick2484
May 13th, 2008
04:38:41 PM
Glenn is one the best character actors around, and bears a surprising likeness to Rumsfeld! Slick the hair back and throw some glasses on him, he'll be a dead ringer. I love the cast for this film, particularly Cromwell as H.W., but I can't help but think that Stone is doing it too soon. If he releases this in November, the possible political implications of the film may very well overshadow whatever artistic merit it might have. Also, it's hard to reflect soberly on a presidency that's still going on. The artistic portrait that Stone made of Nixon in '95 was properly a much richer study of the man than a filmmaker would have been liable to make in the '70s. Of course, if Stone isn't interested in sober reflection and is interested in this project specifically so that it can be born of the heated politics of the moment, then his cause his more political than artistic, and he deserves whatever political barbs are thrown his way.
I've said it before...
by DocPazuzu
May 13th, 2008
04:40:22 PM
...and I'll say it again:

Half the fun for this moderate in November will be watching frothing right-wing nutjobs fall over dead from brain spasms as they try to grok the reality of President Obama.

Yes. We. Fucking. Can. Bitches.

This Movie Will Be A Hilarious Train Wreck
by LaserPants
May 13th, 2008
04:41:53 PM
And the funniest thing about it will be witnessing the apoplectic sputtering rage coming from the radical lunatic right-wing fanatics (approx 28% of the country) who refuse to admit that ANYTHING has gone wrong in the last 8 years let alone how catastrophically disastrous they've been -- all because of the criminally incompetent and rageaholic Bush Admin.'s epic policy failures.
gotham night - you spasm of camel shit
by LiberalWarrior
May 13th, 2008
04:47:08 PM
I'm your worst fukken nightmare - a LIBERAL who dont take shit from sphincters like you!
Point Break sequel directed by Jan De Bont
by kwisatzhaderach
May 13th, 2008
04:49:59 PM
Please god no...
"Yes We Can" or....
by drewlicious
May 13th, 2008
04:50:31 PM
"Si Se puede." What the hell was that. I hate it when politicians are that transparent about their pandering.
Danny Glover
by maverick2484
May 13th, 2008
04:50:46 PM
To an extent, you're right; the capacity of any one candidate from either the Republicans or the Democrats to change Washington is limited. If Obama is elected (and I think he will be), we're not going to be seeing any Soviet-style revolutions any time soon. That said, there are importants differences between Obama and McCain on Iraq, domestic taxation, health care, and relations with foreign leaders. This is important stuff. I hope that no one here is among that apathetic class that throws up their hands and says that all politicians are the same no matter what. McCain is about as solid and forthright a Republican as you're likely to find, and Obama has energized young voters as no candidate has since Kennedy. These are serious men who deserve serious consideration; I just hope they fight the campaign on issues and not the sideshow crap like Jeremiah Wright and who McCain voted for in 2000.
Danny Glover's Dick Blood
by manicart1
May 13th, 2008
04:51:50 PM
Of course Obama is an elitist--he's running for President. To run for President with any measure of success requires a vast personal fortune or an address book full of people with vast personal fortunes. How can anyone like that be anything but elitist?
Oily?
by Colonel Activity
May 13th, 2008
04:52:10 PM
You mean like Dana Perino saying, "President Bush is well aware that the banner should have been much more specific and said `mission accomplished' for these sailors who are on this ship on their mission," when explaining how he could be such a fucking asshat? Is that what you mean by oily? Or how about when that solider asked Rumsfeld for armored vehicles and Rummy replied, "You go to was with the military you have, not the one that you want," or something like that? Is that what you mean by oily? Good lord, you are easy to beat.
BraneRobot - I got two words for ya
by LiberalWarrior
May 13th, 2008
04:52:22 PM
Self Destruct
Um....how about Robert Culp as Rummy?
by smackfu
May 13th, 2008
04:53:16 PM
I can't believe Stone missed the boat on possibly the spookiest cast choice of all time. The first time I ever saw Rumsfeld give a press conference I was like wtf is Robert Culp doing talking to the press corps?
Damn You Michael Bay
by MCMLXXVI
May 13th, 2008
04:54:09 PM
Damn You Michael Bay
YOU CANNOT KILL A KID IN A SUPERMAN MOVIE!
by UltimaRex
May 13th, 2008
04:55:00 PM
What? It's politics....
Ah, ickle gotham gonna cry!
by LiberalWarrior
May 13th, 2008
04:55:11 PM
Poor baby, suck on a tick tit.
Motoko
by kwisatzhaderach
May 13th, 2008
04:56:49 PM
Agreed, WTC was Stone's worst film by miles...more like a TV movie.
McCain
by Colonel Activity
May 13th, 2008
04:58:10 PM
is going to have to answer questions about his love for Iraq, his love for the Bush tax cuts, and his constant flip-flopping on issues and personal opinions...all while trying to defeat a guy who is mobilizing the vote like no one before. 72 million registered Democrats to 55 million for Republicans. Also, 42 million Independents, who will probably go about 60-70% for Obama. Good luck, repugs.
Republicans aren't conservative.
by JimboTHC
May 13th, 2008
05:01:26 PM
There repressed homosexuals who have sex in mens room. Much like Hitlers case of self hate for Jews. That is all.
If you consider a tick tit 'getting some'
by LiberalWarrior
May 13th, 2008
05:02:04 PM
Then you are even more retarded than I thought.

You Motarded!

Jon Voigt was a better Rummy figure in Transformers
by KurtLockwood
May 13th, 2008
05:02:35 PM
Just sayin'.
So he has every RNC hating liberal in the movie
by Razorback
May 13th, 2008
05:03:07 PM
Surprise!
wait...
by redkamel
May 13th, 2008
05:03:52 PM
theres people who actually think Bush is a good president? have you guys ever read a newspaper? lets see...9/11, after ignoring advice from previous admin, katrina, the current recession/morgtage collapse, the current civil war we are involved in for no reason, justice department having to be cleaned, um, outing of CIA agent for political purpose, North Korea talks breakdown...theres so many fuck ups it makes me think I could be a better president. I seriously cant name one thing Bush did correctly or improved in the last 8 years. If you guys want to keep believing, have fun, Ill be watching on TV when law enforcement raids your weird ass compound one day.
Internet conservatives
by Antifanboy
May 13th, 2008
05:08:02 PM
You know, it doesn't matter where you go, but you just can't find a conservative/Republican online to debate things with. Everywhere you go, they're just calling everyone who disagrees with them stupid, ignorant, retarded, mentally ill, etc. It reaches hilarious levels of ridiculousness when they run out of liberals to attack and turn on each other instead. Show me a conservative who maintains a reasonable, polite, mature tone and argues in a rational fashion... and I'll show you someone who's probably just a liberal winding people up cos they got bored or something. (AICN conservatives/Republicans: this is your cue to call me a "fucking retarded mentally ill stupid liberal Democrat").
Who is going to watch this HATE
by viktor-bc
May 13th, 2008
05:11:36 PM
Who is going to watch this HATE
by viktor-bc
May 13th, 2008
05:11:40 PM
Who is going to watch this HATE
by viktor-bc
May 13th, 2008
05:11:40 PM
Who is going to watch this HATE
by viktor-bc
May 13th, 2008
05:11:40 PM
Who is going to watch this HATE
by viktor-bc
May 13th, 2008
05:11:40 PM
Who is going to watch this HATE
by viktor-bc
May 13th, 2008
05:11:40 PM
Who is going to watch this HATE
by viktor-bc
May 13th, 2008
05:11:40 PM
Who is going to watch this HATE
by viktor-bc
May 13th, 2008
05:11:42 PM
Internet conservatives 2
by Antifanboy
May 13th, 2008
05:13:51 PM
I rest my case.
Ooops!
by viktor-bc
May 13th, 2008
05:14:08 PM
Sorry. Glitch. What I was going to say, is: His supporters aren't going to see it. People who don't like him won't see it (since it is about him). Only truly mean spirited hateful hippies will! So.... This movie is headed toward BOMB CITY!
Republicans
by Colonel Activity
May 13th, 2008
05:15:05 PM
so funny, what with their over-use of words. Anytime you see someone saying something negative about lil George, you hear, "It's hate!" They got this from Bill O'Reilly.
Ahhh...the ever so subtle Mr. Stone directs another one...
by Blue_Demon
May 13th, 2008
05:20:18 PM
I can just imagine if Oliver was around during the Civil War. "Clearly Linconln is our worst president in history. He has divided the country, brother is killing brother. History will not be kind to Mr. Lincoln. Anyway...my new book is as fair and as balanced a view as -"
Anyone who calls Obama an elitist
by Hawaiian Organ Donor
May 13th, 2008
05:21:09 PM
Needs to have an Elitist golf ball driven up their ass with a 9-iron. By John Daly. After a bender. Yeah, so what if he's an elitist? Like Bush and McCain aren't? Just because Bush acts like a guy you can have a beer with and chat college football scores over doesn't mean he is. Bush is a filthy rich oil man who won't have shit to do with the common man once he retires to his ranch in Crawford. This guy calls people like King Abdullah his friends, not Cletus McPossum, the Burger King fry cook. And McCain? The fucker married into wealth and would hire someone to toss homeless people out of the way before he stepped over them. All modern day politicians are elitists. They claim to represent us but they don't represent anyone other than Big Business. Democrats and Republicans.

If by chance there are a few politicians floating out in the ether who really do want to make a difference, the best they can hope for are changes on a municipal level because folks not aligned with special interests only see the inside of the Oval Office on Independence Day re-runs.

Comparing Bush to Lincoln?
by Colonel Activity
May 13th, 2008
05:21:34 PM
The Civil War to the Iraq War-of-choice? You, sir, are a fucking moron.
Liberals aren't stupid...
by viktor-bc
May 13th, 2008
05:22:46 PM
Just misguided. In fact... Many intellectuals are liberal. The problem is they are too analytical. They cannot think outside the box and cannot realize their theories do not work. Socialism is bunk. Trust me Antifanboy, you cannot win this one if you want to BRING IT ON. Mister American of MisterAmerican.com says the above point better than me though.
O'Reilly and Hate
by LaserPants
May 13th, 2008
05:23:14 PM
Did he coin that phrase before or after he raped his secretary... and then wrote a children's book? Tell you what, though, when Obama sweeps through this election like a locomotive and takes the White House, FOX News is going to be FUCKING HILARIOUS for the duration of his Presidency, however long it lasts.
I find it amusing/baffling that so many Americans...
by C Legion
May 13th, 2008
05:26:43 PM
become incredibly defensive when they deem something to be, in any way, denigrating towards their president. Why is this? I can't speak for other countries, but here in the UK no one gives a shit. Politician's are power hungry parasites, one and all. Unfortunately they are a necessary evil, that doesn't mean you should defend them, concentrate your thoughts on your friends and family, not those scumbags.
Andy Serkis to play e