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REAPER & ELI STONE Get 2nd Seasons!! OCTOBER ROAD & WOMEN’S MURDER CLUB Don't!!

October Road deserved more love by JohnnyS2	May 12th, 2008 05:21:25 PM
Oh well, Eli is a piece of shit and Reaper is good so it all balances out.
Sarah & Elizabeth by buffywrestling	May 12th, 2008 05:36:01 PM
Will be doing just fine on the mid-season pick-up of "Dollhouse", thank you very much. Kick. Your. Asses.
God, The Devil and Denny Crane! by Napoleon Park	May 12th, 2008 05:37:24 PM
This is happy news for me. Reaper, a fantasy dramedy about a young man forced to work for The Devil, and Eli Stone, a fantasy dramedy about a lawyer/prophet following instructions from a Higher Power, make perfect bookends. The article linked to has a side bar link to an article about Boston Legal renewed and scheduled for the fall instead of mid-season. This was part of a deal to get a domestic adaptation of the British series Life On Mars (that David E. Kelley holds the American rights to) into production with the company that was doing "October Road". I'm personally sorry to see Women's Murder club canceled, but TV's hardly short of either criminal procedurals or eye candy shows with fabulous babe casts.
NICE!!!! But only 13 eps for Reaper? by Cletus Van Damme	May 12th, 2008 05:40:08 PM
Fuck it, I'll take 13...better than zero.
What Cletus said by chrth	May 12th, 2008 05:48:12 PM
Oh well, I'm just glad it's coming back!
Yeah I like Reaper and all by Series7	May 12th, 2008 05:51:50 PM
But Eli Stone is really good as well. I like it better then Pushing Daisy's, the cast has a lot more chemistry, and the gimmick hasn't gotten old yet. But really glad Reaper got picked up again, I thought I heard it was canceled.
I'm happy with 13 eps by Skip the Zip	May 12th, 2008 05:53:58 PM
now if only they could break away from the monster of the week one and a while.
Actually, I think more scripted series should be 13 episodes... by Prof. Pop-Cult	May 12th, 2008 06:02:53 PM
Like the way it usually works on cable networks, I think most scripted shows would be better off with 13 episodes per season. Many scripted shows (especially dramas) have difficulty sustaining storylines and momentum across 22+ episodes. Plus, if the networks went with a standard 13 episodes per season, they could put twice as many series on the air (different shows for the Fall and Spring seasons); more actors and writers would be working; viewers get to watch a wider variety of shows; and maybe the networks would take more chances on quirky show concepts that draw a smaller audience.
It's almost like beating a dead horse, but.... by arzbest	May 12th, 2008 06:04:48 PM
...when will the 4th season of "Veronica Mars" be announced, CW? As soon as you do this, I'll start watching your network again :)
What a stupid thing to say by Harrow	May 12th, 2008 06:10:25 PM
I got bored of Reaper and it's 'eye candy' after 2 or 3 eps, but Eli Stone was quite enjoyable, glad to see it back!
"Veronica Mars: FBI" as a Web series by Prof. Pop-Cult	May 12th, 2008 06:13:29 PM
I think it would have been cool if Rob Thomas had thought to ask the CW to fund the production of a Web series spin-off. Why would the CW agree to this? Well, to encourage traffic to the CW web site. And I think it could have been do-able from a production cost standpoint: Just shoot a 43-minute pilot for the FBI concept, and split it up into 13 installments that are put on the site every week.
Shorter seasons often mean better tv by The Pelti	May 12th, 2008 06:18:32 PM
I completely agree on the 13 episode season idea. Look at the strength of cable fare like Mad Men and Damages, Battlestar Galactica and The Shield, and Premium content like Dexter, The Wire, or The Sopranos. British TV shows are an even better model, with many shows that would be considered mini-series here in the US. Whether serious drama like Spooks or Life on Mars, lighter shows like Hustle or Robin Hood, or Scifi like Doctor Who and Torchwood, the shorter season frequently makes for a stronger running plot, even when each episode can be very procedural.
Thrilled about "Reaper"... by DanielKurland	May 12th, 2008 06:25:31 PM
It's gotten crazy good lately. Glad to see a small, new show not getting cancelled for once.
They haven't done the Monster of the Week for awhile by chrth	May 12th, 2008 06:40:58 PM
The escaped soul more often than not is a subplot lately. Heck, there wasn't even an escaped soul last week! Loved the Lincoln 'wanted' poster
Reaper's a good show by newc0253	May 12th, 2008 06:47:48 PM
I didn't have high expectations when i watched it, and the first ep was pretty gradual, but it's definitely gotten better and deserves to come back.
except for the pilot...reaper sucked by bacci40	May 12th, 2008 07:15:55 PM
sorry guys...but thats my opinion, and im sticking to it
Wooo!! by Z 008	May 12th, 2008 07:16:46 PM
It's awesome Reaper got the pick-up!!!
and aliens in america is getting a second season?? by bacci40	May 12th, 2008 07:17:47 PM
but freaks and geeks will never be back?? now thats some fucked up shit
bacci40: why do you keep watching a show that sucks? by chrth	May 12th, 2008 07:32:42 PM
oh, and aliens in america is not coming back. The article is worded poorly (when talking about a sophomore year, they're talking about the CW's sophomore year, not AIA's)
Per Nikki Finke, the Reaper 13-ep deal is a midseason one... by Pennsy	May 12th, 2008 07:37:30 PM
So it won't air, like Dollhouse, until the 2008-09 midseason point.
Glad to hear about Reaper by Yeti	May 12th, 2008 07:42:04 PM
Hopefully the CW will order an additional 9. Then again, the 12-13 ep per season format has worked pretty for cable, so why not they baastard love child of the WB & UPN?
Yeah, we'll only see 13 eps of Reaper next season by chrth	May 12th, 2008 07:43:47 PM
UNLESS the CW comes to its senses, fires Ostroff, and realize that Reaper has the potential to be a breakout hit for the network.
Go Reaper by aversiontherapy2	May 12th, 2008 09:09:21 PM
Well-deserved.
that's awesome. by nalapou	May 12th, 2008 09:53:12 PM
Show has REALLY picked up. For those of you that quit, pilot rocked... eps 2-7ish were subpar... since then quality.
Journeyman: Shameless Rumor Propagation! by chromedome	May 12th, 2008 10:00:28 PM
I saw this with My Own Eyes this morning: CNBC was covering the Fall TV "business outlook" by (no surprise) covering the NBC "Experience" event today: show stars meet and greet and talk to press. The cast of JOURNEYMAN was talking to the press! I know this could have been "file footage" from last year's event, but the whole point of CNBC's coverage was that the strike had changed the nature of today's event, since no pilots were being shown, only meet and greet sorta stuff. Moon Bloodgood and the two low-level stars (the journey dude and his wife) were Standing Right There!
Yay Reaper! by Razorback	May 12th, 2008 10:01:04 PM
Good show.
I'm glad Reaper is back by TVguy4566	May 12th, 2008 10:22:52 PM
13 is always better than none. The show's progression reminds me of Jericho the year before. A strong pilot followed by some crappy episodes and then it gains it stride and focus. Reaper started out with the outdated practice of bad guy/demon of the week. People want story arches and the demon of the week stuff got too formulaic fast. Now they have introduced more story arches and put the demon on the back burner in most episodes. It works so much better. I do agree that 13 episodes may make Reaper stronger. I like the show, but the premise is a little thin to stretch out over 22-24 episodes.
BSG Season 1 by Shan	May 12th, 2008 10:41:57 PM
13 episodes, sharp as a tack. Seasons 2 and 3 - not so much.
More love for Reaper than not.... by Darth WickedChicken	May 12th, 2008 10:44:17 PM
Happy I'm not the only one.
The CW should do 13 episodes as standard... by Prof. Pop-Cult	May 12th, 2008 11:00:23 PM
This is a network that is trying to both survive and stand out from the other broadcast networks. I think in order to do so, and to save themselves money, they should treat their programming production and air schedule for scripted shows similarly to the way the cable networks do it (e.g. TNT, Spike, FX, etc.). The should have separate shows for the Fall and Spring seasons. Maybe they should also do a summer season of original shows. In this day and age of delayed Webcasts and DVD box sets, they could be known for producing cool, hip scripted series. If Reaper goes on for just a few seasons, of 13 episodes each, it would still be considered a success. Nowadays, it's a lot to ask of people to commit to watching 22+ episodes every season, for every new series.
"reaper" is watchable ... by Toe Jam	May 12th, 2008 11:05:02 PM
but not great, by any stretch of the imagination. loved seeing ken marino and michael ian black as the demon couple, though. the excellent cast is what makes the show watchable. if not for them, the show's premise and writing would fall totally flat.
Oh, and surprised no one has brought up Dualla on Reaper by Prof. Pop-Cult	May 12th, 2008 11:12:01 PM
That is, the actress who plays her on BSG is now on Reaper. (Reaper and BSG are both shot in Vancouver.) They already had the guy who plays Tyrol in a cameo earlier in the season. I wonder if the Reaper producers are BSG fans. I'd like to see more BSG stars make appearances on Reaper next season. (I think the actress who played Cally, the guy who plays Gaeta or Michael Hogan (Tigh) would be appropriate to show up. I mention these three since they are Canadian, and may likely be most available to show up for an appearance.)
reason why CW only gave reaper 13 eps by hellnback	May 12th, 2008 11:38:30 PM
probably cuz they don't have faith in it. they order 13 episodes only and if the show does great they'll order up another batch. if the show bombs during the 13 eps ordered they'll just let the 13 eps run it's course and call it quits.
But what would "24" do with 13 episodes? by IAmMrMonkey!	May 13th, 2008 12:43:28 AM
Didn't think about that didya? :)
There's only one good demon hunting show on CW, and Reaper ain't by Shermdawg	May 13th, 2008 01:18:31 AM

it. by Shermdawg	May 13th, 2008 01:18:48 AM

Yay by flickchick85	May 13th, 2008 01:26:52 AM
For once, a pleasant surprise on the TV front. I was sure Reaper was a goner.
yay by slkboxrman	May 13th, 2008 01:28:52 AM
yay for ELI STONE coming back...thought it was amazing...not too cheesey as it coulda been....IMHO anyways
24 could be .... by postalpez	May 13th, 2008 01:32:18 AM
24 could be called 12 and be everything jack does from burnch till dinner.
What the hell is October Road? by Lyghthouse	May 13th, 2008 01:59:25 AM
Never heard of it.
At this point, 12 might be better by The Selecter	May 13th, 2008 04:01:37 AM
I swear, if 24 doesn't show signs of life in the first new hours, it'll be time to stop the clock. They've long abandoned remaining true to the real-time thing anyway. As for Reaper, that was a Wise move by the CW. Har har.
Reaper fucking rules! by RobFromBackEast	May 13th, 2008 04:31:45 AM
Fucking yeeeeeeeeeees! Delighted with this news. It's easily the best show on the CW.
chrth..cuz i have the internet by bacci40	May 13th, 2008 04:36:31 AM
and i get a boner knowing that i can stream a show, wherever and whenever i want to...for the same reason, i have been watching lost...thats right, i have no fucking life....but if the only way i could watch these shows was being home when they air, i wouldnt...and glad to hear that aliens in america aint coming back...there is still hope...but i do believe that going by the ratings, the entire viewing audience for reaper is right here on aicn...sucker avg a 1...i can reach more people peeing out my front door
Reaper just wasn't as sharp without a certain.. by barnaby jones	May 13th, 2008 06:53:05 AM
Kevin Smith writing, am i right in thinking it didn't have an arc either, it was just lots of individual episodes ?
maybe I'll check out Reaper now... by turketron	May 13th, 2008 07:28:48 AM
Thought it was gonna get cancelled, but now that it's got a decent amount of eps I'll give it a look. Eli Stone? WTF how did that get renewed. Those commercials did not make me want to watch that show.
Yay for Reaper. by gotilk	May 13th, 2008 08:19:09 AM
The show is really coming into it's own. Nice to see something like this get a second shot for once.
captboulder by gotilk	May 13th, 2008 08:20:24 AM
I hear ya. Blows me away, too.
ABC Eli Stone by NOVAJimBo	May 13th, 2008 08:28:44 AM
Thank you ABC! Here is the link about Eli Stone http://www.hollywoodreporter.c om/hr/content_display/news/e3i 595b48df06c95e2eb0cd5e0c53d600 f5
Noone cares NOVA. by nalapou	May 13th, 2008 08:43:31 AM
After the shocking first season cancellations of quality shows in the past few years such as Invasion, Day Break, Journeyman, Jericho and The Inside... it's nice that the little guy finally got a second shot without 10,000 tons of peanuts being delivered.
Reaper COULD be a breakout hit IF... by Abin Sur	May 13th, 2008 09:03:18 AM
...they'd put the lead girl in her skivvies at least ONCE in a while...I'm sorry, but the faux Home Depot outfit doesn't do it for me. I do love Reaper though, and that's great that it's coming back.
This longass talkback, and not a single WMC mention.... by griporama	May 13th, 2008 09:45:22 AM
...sigh.... show at least a little love for it guys... I'm now unemployed. Grrrr.......
Kevin Smith didn't write Reaper by RobFromBackEast	May 13th, 2008 09:58:44 AM
He directed the pilot - which was excellent. It's been solid for me for the most part, but outstanding the past 5 or so eps.
How About Some Love for the Devil? by KingKirby	May 13th, 2008 11:12:00 AM
I love "Reaper" and think it's just been getting better...it seems it knows where it wants to go now. But one of the best things of the show has consistantly been the performance of Ray Wise as the Devil, almost a glad-handing car salesman, seemingly in a good mood whenever he can get away from Hell. And hey, don't forget that 'Sock' is played by Tyler Labine, who actually had just come off of the one-season "Invasion" (I'm still pissed ABC never gave us a wrap-up to that one!). I'm pleased both "Reaper" and "Eli Stone" will be back.
Reaper = boring by Judge Briggs	May 13th, 2008 11:21:10 AM

The hot girl Sam is after... by Judge Briggs	May 13th, 2008 11:23:19 AM
girls as hot as her don't work at Home Depot. sad but true
october stone! worst show ever! by geraldbeans	May 13th, 2008 12:44:49 PM
Hey! Here's a wacky idea! Let's make one of the guys scared to leave his house for 3 years! It'll be so nuttttttyyyy!!!!
This season, will Calista Flockhart return as Eli Stone? by JacksParasites	May 13th, 2008 03:22:31 PM
...or will we get more anti-vaccine propaganda and pseudo-science?
Eli Stone is THAT good. by lostbat	May 13th, 2008 04:38:56 PM
ABC u rock!! Bring the first season on DVD as fast as possible or rerun it this summer. It will find its audience..
Supernatural started to rock AFTER the first season!! by lostbat	May 13th, 2008 04:41:00 PM
Gotham_night from which planet u come from?????
Whatever happened to that Reaper storyline.. by DanielKurland	May 13th, 2008 06:46:31 PM
With Sam's dad tearing our pages of his contract and trying to find a loophole? The rebellion stuff is much more interesting, but it would have been nice to see that addressed again. Maybe they're saving it for the finale.
Ha, so of course I mention dangling plotlines... by DanielKurland	May 13th, 2008 08:57:25 PM
And of course it's addressed in tonight's episode in a satisfying way.
I suppose this father thing also maybe addressess... by DanielKurland	May 13th, 2008 08:59:33 PM
Those mild super powers that Sam had in the series premiere.
Reaper mythology... by Tar Heel	May 13th, 2008 09:49:45 PM
... got way more interesting in the past few weeks. Saw an online interview with Sam (sorry, forgot actor's name) who said that's what they wanted to do all along. Past the well-written banter, if they'd get serious and up the ante with character perils or even deaths, we'd be almost in hallowed "Buffy" territory.
Now that Eli Stone had his aneurysm removed by Pancho Straight	May 14th, 2008 12:59:23 AM
will they accept that his visions are divinely inspired and not merely hallucinations? Now that Women's Murder Club is over, I'm glad they tied up the two major subplots (the kiss me not killer and her love life) in the finale. Nice tidy package, out to make a decent low priced DVD set. I generally enjoy Reaper a lot when I remember to watch it but I still have trouble thinking of The CW as a 'real' network.
That's awesome about Reaper's intentions... by DanielKurland	May 14th, 2008 11:23:13 AM
And it's how most shows are I think. They want to do arc stuff, but are forced to do episodic things to get ratings. But yeah, in terms of the storylines, characters, and acting, this show has moved from a guilty pleasure to something I look forward to watching, and maybe one of my favorite shows of the season. Having actual GOOD guest stars like Marino, Ian Black, and Lucy Davis doesn't hurt either.

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