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Eric Stoltz Will Play The Inventor Of The Cylons!!

Must be written by Cameron Crowe. by Flim Springfield	May 12th, 2008 12:32:17 AM

What's Stolz been up to since Jerry Maguire? by Han Cholo	May 12th, 2008 12:36:16 AM
Seen him do a cameo and then haven't heard from him since. He's definitely an underrated actor and was awesome in the Prophecy.
Now I'm getting interested by RokurGepta	May 12th, 2008 12:37:29 AM
when is this supposed to be broadcast?
Holy Frack!!! by Paul T. Ryan	May 12th, 2008 12:40:22 AM
The cast for this is starting to look really interesting!
So the first Cylon is a skinjob? by IAmMrMonkey!	May 12th, 2008 12:48:24 AM
I thought they started as the Cylon Centurians? Does this mean his daughter is the final Cylon? I obviously haven't been paying enough attention.
ERIC STOLTZ?!?!? by Playkins	May 12th, 2008 01:15:20 AM
That's actually good news. A helluva actor that never really achieved the fame he should have.
yo herc...you forgot stoltz penultimate role by bacci40	May 12th, 2008 01:45:23 AM
the one that made everyone think he was gonna be a world class actor...as the boy in mask...boy was everyone surprised to find out that once that makeup was off, he was just another hollywood hack
The Blu-Ray cover of RoboCop... by travis-dane	May 12th, 2008 01:47:40 AM
looks really good. Maybe RoboCop is the final Cylon....
The casting continues to be great... by Prof. Pop-Cult	May 12th, 2008 01:49:03 AM
But the premise of Caprica sounds underwhelming so far.
Broadcast dates by WerePlatypus	May 12th, 2008 01:55:26 AM
Episode 1-3 in 2010, then Episode 4-5 as a two hour flaskback in early 2011. Episode 6-8 in 2012, and the exctiting finale to the first half of the season, containing episodes 9-10 in 2014. The second half of the first season will be begin broadcast two years later, to wrap up in 2018. The first Cylon will be revealed to be the head of Sci-Fi channel's PR department.
PERFECT casting by gotilk	May 12th, 2008 02:33:43 AM
Now plunge a needle into his chest. But seriously this is perfect. It's a stroke of Almos-like genius.
"Do not be bringing some fucked-up toaster to my house!" by newc0253	May 12th, 2008 03:04:21 AM
or words to that effect.
At least he won't be... by Sledge Hammer	May 12th, 2008 04:16:48 AM
...replaced by Michael J. Fox half way through filming. Ah, Eric Stoltz, the only person in the world who had a party when he heard about Michael J Fox's Parkinsons.
I do find myself wondering... by 11dayempire	May 12th, 2008 04:28:30 AM
...if the final Cylon from BSG is going to turn out to be one of the Cylons from the Caprica series. Wouldn't put it past them to promote the prequel series through the current show.
"A race against time and terror... by Lurking Evil	May 12th, 2008 04:29:27 AM
Starring Eric Stoltz!"
A skinjob!!!! by DC Films	May 12th, 2008 04:36:36 AM
As IAmMrMonkey! also pointed out, in BSG myth the 'skinjobs' were created 'off-Caprica' by the Cylons (though no one knows how). I guess that the producers thought that a BSG movie/series without skinjobs would be pretty dull, so they're exploiting the 'No One Knows How' mystery to say "Hey, guess what guys, skinjobs were actually invented secretly on Caprica buy the Pulp Fiction bloke - ain't that irony!!!" Well they they have to spice Caprica up, just don't fuck up the BSG legend you've created - don't muddy it. You have to trust them though, since their making the best TV i've ever seen!
... only to be replaced by Michael J Fox ... by Shan	May 12th, 2008 05:33:38 AM
... after a third of the pilot has been filmed.
...of Malcolm in the Middle? by Sebilrazen	May 12th, 2008 05:38:04 AM
she was in 2 episodes, which is one episode more than she was in Bones, Arrested Development, Terminator: TSCC, suffice to say, Caprica would be her big break.
Great Cast! Fuck SciFi by teethgnasher	May 12th, 2008 07:02:26 AM
How the fuck does SciFi get a great cast? The money and production schedule must be awesome for actors.
Freakin' sweet! by thedarklinglord	May 12th, 2008 07:06:59 AM
I can't say I was all that interested in 'Caprica' because neither the cast nor the overall premise impressed me, but casting a grossly underrated actor like Eric Stoltz in a major role is exactly what this project needed. Stoltz is one of those actors who, whenever I learn he's involved in a project, makes me giddy. He's generally better in roles with a bit of a comedic edge to them (anyone remember his recurring cameo in "Mad About You"?), and I hope it's something the writers mix into his character. They've had some great moments in BSG with wit and sarcasm. They're few and far between, but they were also superbly written. If we get the same quality writing with 'Caprica' then this should kick ass.
Wait, are you calling me on a networked line? by chrth	May 12th, 2008 07:26:16 AM
I don't know you! Crank caller! Crank caller!
Genisus of the Cylons! by Yeti	May 12th, 2008 07:30:22 AM
Excellent title even if it does seem vaguely familiar....;p
Timeline... by Furzee	May 12th, 2008 07:48:54 AM
First off, I am not a hater. I love BSG and what they do week to week far surpasses nost network and cable shows in depth, character development and action. Having said that, doesn't it seem like they are rushing the timeline a bit? 50 years doesn't seem like it fits in with the time frame they've already established just to throw in some original names like Adama etc. I'm hoping they do this logically. The casting of Stoltz is a great move, though. Dude can act, and if they can work the words 'Dont Be Bringing Some Fucked Up Cheeba To My Basestar' into the pilot, well, that would be great...
2nd interesting addition to the cast by palewook	May 12th, 2008 08:08:29 AM
but still not sold this will work. its from skiffy..
Well, I'm guessing less space battles and CGI ... by Shan	May 12th, 2008 08:09:12 AM
... in general frees up the budget to pay for actors. I'm guessing this show is going to be cheaper per episode than BSG. Else it would have made more sense to have a 5th season of BSG and start Caprica the year after.
furzee by spidercoz	May 12th, 2008 08:19:28 AM
agreed... so the Cylons were created 50 years ago, and in a matter of, what, weeks? months? go from just the prototype to an entire slave race to a bloody uprising that nearly defeats humanity? sounds just a tad... what's the word... improbable, no... STUPID! besides, they're trying to shoehorn this into the old Frankenstein story of man playing god, only to be destroyed by his creation. still think the original alien origin of the Cylons was more interesting...
shan by palewook	May 12th, 2008 08:23:43 AM
yup, i smell "sci-fi opera" think soap opera but with a few special effects each week. a lot of talking from people sitting in sets which look like a futuristic office.
Is the daughter going to be a younger Six? by performingmonkey	May 12th, 2008 08:31:46 AM
OK, maybe the Cylon's aren't meant to age (is that even confirmed?) but what if Zoe, this guy's 16-year-old daughter is Six but younger-looking? Whatever, I don't get how this can fit into BSG mythology. If this guy created the Cylons it kind of takes away the mystery of the current BSG situation.
chrth - that shit mad me Laugh Out Loud by The Shyster	May 12th, 2008 08:33:49 AM
every mother fucker here is lookin' at me, cause of the "Networked line" joke. You sir, get a gold star.
"the Cylons were created 50 years ago" by newc0253	May 12th, 2008 08:59:13 AM
when i first heard about the timeline, i was kinda skeptical. it didn't seem long enough to have led to (1) their use throughout the colonies; (2) their revolt throughout the colonies; and (3) their long absence and evolution. but then, stop to think about what our world was like 50 years ago: * the average computer was the size of a small car, but with less memory than your cell phone. * airlines were just introducing those new fangled jet aircraft on a wide scale, to replace the ones with propellers. * most of the world still didn't have television and, in those countries that did, the picture was in black and white. * the British still ruled Palestine/Israel (okay, just barely). So, yes, I think 50 years is enough of a gap.
also by newc0253	May 12th, 2008 09:03:07 AM
50 years ago, there was only 1 satellite in space, the size of a football. Now there's something like 25,000.
Meh by snowpuff	May 12th, 2008 09:11:00 AM

I can see a skinjob by punto	May 12th, 2008 09:46:03 AM
I can see the first Cylon as a skinjob, if it was created as a civilian initiative.. Why would a civilian create a toaster? Later, the millitary gets a hold of the technology, and they create the toasters with the neural dampener thing.
He better have a beard like in PULP and KILLING ZOE by Tacom	May 12th, 2008 09:57:47 AM
Cleanshaven he looks like a yutz.
Meh!! by snowpuff	May 12th, 2008 09:58:07 AM
I'd rather see them do this "Razor style." That is, tell the beginning of the cylons story interspersed with relevant flash forwards to present day crew and company. Otherwise, I think we're going to keep seeing the rest of BSG contorting itself to fit with this prequel.
WerePlatypus by secretcylon	May 12th, 2008 10:20:59 AM
Broadcast dates. That sh** is hilarious. LOL.
Maybe they'll do an Iron Man... by zinc_chameleon	May 12th, 2008 10:35:34 AM
And have his first attempts to revive his daughter as ghastly mistakes; until he decides to put her consciousness/brain/genes into a Toaster body. This also would give the Cylons a motivation to create skin-jobs in the first place. They should pay me for this quality of work.
Awesome! Eric Stoltz is still alive! by Series7	May 12th, 2008 10:36:36 AM
Kick ass, he was amazing in Fly 2! He was even better in Harvard Man and The Honeymooners! Seriously, Stoltz and Tim Roth must be pissed that Tarantino pretty muched stoped making movies for awhile. They both got recognized in Zoe/Dawgs/Pulp and got roles in Rob Roy. Then pretty much nothing, until now! Hulk and BSG. Stoltz just never gets the same luck as the other actors who become big after their ensemble movies that hit (he was in Fast Times in Rigemont high as well as Pulp fiction, both of which started a lot of careers (he didn't get Travolta's luck with re-starting it either). Will call it the luck of the red heads, because Cole Hauser was in Dazed and Confused and Pitch Black, but is not well known. Granted not everyone in Pitch Black is huge but Vin got big and Radha Mitchell seems to be in a lot of good movies these days. I wonder if Harry has the same problem? I mean this site was on like all the There Will Be Blood Posters, and still not everyone knows about it.
performingmonkey... by DHJeffries	May 12th, 2008 10:42:03 AM
If the daughter was Six, she couldn't very well be the FIRST Cylon, would she? She'd be the sixth...
Seems like the Gravitas of BSG by chromedome	May 12th, 2008 11:47:40 AM
will have actors swarming in hopes of joining up with follow on projects! COOL! They can pick perfectly, and Stoltz is consistently good. And the guy (forgot name) they cast as Joe Adams (Adama) is fantastic, too. Against all odds, this thing might have legs....
zinc_chameleon: That's a fucking GOOD idea by Playkins	May 12th, 2008 12:45:15 PM
Seriously, mate. if it were up to me I'd hire you.
by The 6th Conchord	May 12th, 2008 12:57:43 PM
This is appropriate, as Eric Stoltz actually HAS invented his own Cylons.
what drugs will he be on? by samsquanch	May 12th, 2008 01:24:36 PM

Stoltz!! Now all that is needed is by CrazyJoeDavola	May 12th, 2008 02:01:59 PM
Mary Stuart Masterson as his tomboy sidekick and Lea Thompson as the object of his desire.
Great news by smackfu	May 12th, 2008 02:17:46 PM
I think this show will really work because there is no pressure for it to resolve any huge plot setups or mysteries, it can 100% focus on character stories and good drama without having to resolve huge story arcs simply for the sake of resolving them.
Daughter becomes Six? It is possible... by Demode	May 12th, 2008 02:51:52 PM
"If the daughter was Six, she couldn't very well be the FIRST Cylon, would she? She'd be the sixth..." ......mmmmm.... well, there are the 5 orginal models, who seem to have been created around the time of the 13th tribe leaving for Earth. That would make the first "new" model the 6th Cylon.
Daughter becomes Six? It is possible... Part 2 by Demode	May 12th, 2008 03:35:04 PM
The people who create the "new" cylon girl may not know about the final 5 cylons at all (at least not directly - they could be influenced by them though in some way.) Humans on BSG before the war did not seem to know of fleshjob-Cylons in the past, so it is possible that the fleshjobs were not known to the general public at all. Perhaps their was only a few, or just the one. The robotic cylons may have been around as soldiers before the fleshjob was created. Perhaps the fleshjobs did something to turn the robotic Cylons against the humans, by altering their programming. Many possibilities...
You jerks... by DrCliffHuxtable	May 12th, 2008 03:39:01 PM
You HAD to put that as the fucking headline?!? You've just RUINED a great reveal on the front page. Show a little consideration, jerks.
Stolz is a great pick by pomophobe	May 12th, 2008 04:09:46 PM
If here's the top billing I am watching for sure. He's easy to watch. I loved his cameo in The Rules of Attraction.
Son of Brundle! Next cast Daphne Zuniga! by Drath	May 12th, 2008 04:18:41 PM

Crazy idea by snowpuff	May 12th, 2008 04:38:26 PM
Forget Caprica and give us more BSG.
I hope he wears his Mask makeup. by Sakurai	May 12th, 2008 05:05:30 PM
Cause that would be creepy.
Another great actor, but why a prequel? by bswise	May 12th, 2008 05:32:07 PM
Oh why oh why dig up the moldering backstory when you've got the whole Universe to explore? You know, one minute it's like "Luke, I'm your father," then it's "and Leia is your twin sister," and then it's, "and I built C-3PO as a child," and then it's "what this thing needs is more Clone Wars."
Palewook by Shan	May 12th, 2008 06:41:55 PM
There better be a scene where the Galactica is commissioned and we see its launch. Otherwise there'll be trouble. That's all I'm saying.
Some Kind of Wonderful Toaster... by Chryse	May 12th, 2008 06:56:08 PM
I'm loving it already...
The final cylon model is humanity by Hervoyel	May 12th, 2008 07:36:18 PM
It's the human race who inhabit the 12 colonies (or at least at this point it's the remaining survivors of that group). Remember that all of this has happened before and all of it will happen again and everybody, whether they are cylon or "human" knows this. Everyone also knows about earth regardless of which side they're on as well. I think that's because the humans have led the cylons to earth many times before. I believe that we're going to learn that the cylons were invented by man at some point in the distant past and that they did in fact fight a war with their creators and they won it. They followed the rest of humanity to the final colony and destroyed it as well. Then, taking the remaining bits of mankind they began their evolutionary move toward skin jobs. At the same time I think they intentionally recreated humanity in the 12 colonies and they "injected" the stories and themes necessary to start a slow "replay" of past events. I think we'll see that there's some purpose for this and that every time they get a little closer to their goal of becoming human. Notice what a big deal they made about the cylon-human hybrid but none of the revealed four has paid much thought to the chief's daughter? If it was so tough for a human and a cylon to breed then how does the chief knock a baby out with Callie so easy? He does it because the "four" are models from the last batch that are the proverbial hair away from being really human. The "humans" in this are the end result of thousands or maybe even a hundred thousand years of cylon study and development. They're in a loop and every time it completes the "cylons" set up "humanity" to begin anew and then pull away from them to observe. Then they nudge them along to the point where "cylons" are invented (again) and it all starts over. Too stupid?
Prequels suck by Dazzler69	May 12th, 2008 07:42:21 PM
I hate all this backwards shit. Just move forward and take a chance! Star Wars you listening?
Continuity? by Hairy Nutsack	May 12th, 2008 07:58:13 PM
The Cylons were created as tools, all sorts of different kinds of robots that served specific functions such as cooks, janitors, and other menial stuff. They weren't all war machines like the Centurions, there were different models that served different functions. They aren't called toasters just because they're shiny! But now we're getting a retread of A.I.? I can't believe the same creative team came up with something this far outside of their own continuity that is a rehash of motherfucking Astroboy and the Blue Fairy. L A M E
To bring the BSG fans over to this... by NoHubris	May 13th, 2008 12:00:07 AM
...they'll need to include some aspect of the current show. A Godfather Part II type structure (i.e. Michael Corleone story interspersed with Vito Corleone's story) could be interesting where we go to the future to periodically join the fleet or the Cylon world such as a basestar, Cylon-occupied Caprica and so forth, then go back to the CAPRICA prequel era.
wait- hang on a sec! by Maniaq	May 13th, 2008 07:17:43 AM
the Cylons weren't created 50 years ago - the ARMISTICE had lasted 50 years and they'd been fighting for fuck knows how long before that? Bill was a rookie - still in his teens when the cease fire was declared and now he's an "old man" in his sixties - so does this show fit in with the continuity of EITHER old or new BSG exactly? That's not even mentioning the first-Cylon-is-a-skinjob deal...
Nice catch, Maniaq by NoHubris	May 13th, 2008 12:48:51 PM
I recall two related points from the mini series: (1) the armistice lasted for OVER forty years and (2)someone said (don't remember which character) that 50 years ago or so was the EARLY days of the Cylon War. The Cylons had to be created, developed and produced in mass quantity WAY before that.

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