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New HEROES Promo for 3rd Season!!!

FIRST? by montimer	May 9th, 2008 06:09:29 PM

Saw this earlier by Charlie Murphy	May 9th, 2008 06:09:38 PM
no footage= lame. hopefully third year will be better than the second, which was "meh" at best.
montimer by Charlie Murphy	May 9th, 2008 06:10:21 PM
if i hadn't typed anything, victory would have been mine.
Meh by SpiceWonBruce	May 9th, 2008 06:10:51 PM
After the second season, nothing can redeem this show. To be honest, even though it started out interesting, it never was well written to begin with.
Emo guy goes bad... watch. by ruven76	May 9th, 2008 06:14:27 PM

just ask chrth by BadMrWonka	May 9th, 2008 06:16:56 PM
I'm sure he can accurately predict the whole season with his premonitory powers coupled with deductive reasoning... and I think he time travels, but I can't prove it... I'm excited for the Heroes talkback to return! Napolean! Chrth! Ororo! Ikamono! um...there were a lot more I'm forgetting...but they're playing the music so I have to get off stage.
Looks like Ali Larter will be back. by jaymrobinson	May 9th, 2008 06:17:45 PM
Mmmm...
Charlie Murphy by montimer	May 9th, 2008 06:18:04 PM
Sorry dude, couldn't resist. Pipped by nine seconds. What makes it even worse is that this is my second pointless "First" post in two days running. Even more gauling is that the trailer was a bit crappy.
When is Season 2 coming out on DVD? by david26	May 9th, 2008 06:19:30 PM
just wondering
Damnit, they better not make Sylar a Hero... by br1947	May 9th, 2008 06:23:58 PM
That will truly, 100% piss me off. Now Hiro... possibly meeting an alternate timeline evil version of himself... that could be good!
August 26, david26. Nice symmetry, that. by Pennsy	May 9th, 2008 06:25:54 PM
It will be on DVD and Blu-Ray. The UK gets season 2 on 7/28.
AT LAST A HEROES TALKBACK!!! by PROF IKAMONO	May 9th, 2008 06:26:30 PM
Oh how I've missed this... Oh, and DAMN YOU WONKA!!!
I know someone who'd love to see Sylar as a Hero... by PROF IKAMONO	May 9th, 2008 06:31:31 PM
... are you here yet Ororo?
Im pretty sure by Mezzanine	May 9th, 2008 06:33:33 PM
That this show is off the rails in a major kind of way. As far as I am concerned, Kring can go back to writing Crossing Jordan. Which wasn't terrible. Certainly better than this shit.
Three hours? by drewlicious	May 9th, 2008 06:34:34 PM
They better bring their A-game if they want to keep me watching that long. I want Sylar to finally kick Peter's ass and hopefully no more lame healers. Seriously, what made Adam so powerful in the first place?
I'm thinking a one-hour recap of season 2, then the premiere by Pennsy	May 9th, 2008 06:39:47 PM
proper...
It will take a LOT to get me psyched for Heroes again by odysseus	May 9th, 2008 06:40:20 PM
Season 2 was one of the biggest creative plunges I've ever seen a TV series go through.
WONKA! by Pennsy	May 9th, 2008 06:40:25 PM
Welcome back, dude. :)
I think Hiro goes bad.... by bigbaldpapa	May 9th, 2008 06:41:08 PM
Not an informed opinion. Just a stab in the dark. I love this show and cannot wait for it's return.
What's This? TWO promos from Volume Three from December??? by plinstrot	May 9th, 2008 06:42:49 PM
http://youtube. com/ watch?v=tIjKW4wpGAo http://youtube. com/ watch?v=HPNwEtc5U3M
Oh there was a Heroes thread yesterday too... by PROF IKAMONO	May 9th, 2008 06:44:03 PM
...about Tron/Scarecrow joining the cast... (just totally dated myself with those references...)
Parkman would make a good villain. by Kevin Holsinger	May 9th, 2008 06:56:26 PM
Hopefully he'll compensate for his father not living up to the "he's even worse than Sylar" line Molly threw out in Season 1.
I'll be back to see if any of the old gang has showed up... by PROF IKAMONO	May 9th, 2008 06:56:36 PM
... after 10:00 Eastern Daylight Savings Time. That is... after SciFi has aired Sarah Jane Smith and Doctor Who...
So was season 2 worth watching at all? by wash	May 9th, 2008 07:08:14 PM
Cuz I gave up after about 3 episodes. And I'm still pissed about the season 1 finale.
I'd like for Mohinder to become a villain... by James Westfall	May 9th, 2008 07:08:58 PM
So someone can finally put a bullet in his traitorous face.
Not to start by Mezzanine	May 9th, 2008 07:10:07 PM
the age old flame war, but I really don't understand how people can be excited for this show coming back; especially with LOST firing on all cylinders, BSG in the home stretch, and... Well fuck, I'll just say it. Even House is better than this piece of shit show. Anyone want to buy my season 1 DVDs?
I stopped watching after season 1 by coattails	May 9th, 2008 07:13:44 PM
It was too predictable. The Heros always win and the show was too slow. Not once was I scared for the protagonists.
hey Pennsy by BadMrWonka	May 9th, 2008 07:16:10 PM
welcome back yourself... I'm so excited for Heroes! I have a new house, a new TV, new couch, new coffee table...so excited! I will sit there with my feet up, a glass of wine, my computer on my lap, and chat with everyone else...I just wish these talkbacks were more west coast oriented...I can't really participate for the 3 hours until the show airs here...gadzooks! oh and the NY Times bought one of my crossword puzzles last week. holler!!
Mezzanine by BadMrWonka	May 9th, 2008 07:18:28 PM
Lost is like crack...gets you hooked and then you compulsively have to have it, reagrdless of how little it actually does for you. Heroes is like drinking really nice wine...even when it disappoints, at least there is a lot to discuss and analyze. House is Natty Light.
Three Hours?!?!? by RyanMurray	May 9th, 2008 07:20:26 PM
Wow
wash by Kevin Holsinger	May 9th, 2008 07:22:21 PM
Season 2 isn't as good as Season 1, but if you keep in mind that the Maya/Alejandro plot has NOTHING TO DO with the Shanti virus plot, Season 2 isn't all that bad. I for one didn't mind the Takezo Kensei plot going on as long as it did, though others had that complaint. As for West, if you look at him as a creepy stalker than a potential boyfriend for Claire, he's not so bad.
"RATHER than", not "than" by Kevin Holsinger	May 9th, 2008 07:23:43 PM
I really should proofread better.
Mohinder as a PERMANENTLY DEAD villain! by chromedome	May 9th, 2008 07:25:59 PM
James Westfall, you are onto something there
"Slightly misfiring?" by IAmJack'sUserID	May 9th, 2008 07:30:50 PM
Try "atom bomb you made blowing up in your face and taking out half your city" misfire.
How about Heroes being HEROIC?!?! by Drath	May 9th, 2008 07:39:20 PM
I honestly thought by now that the Heroes would have faced a collossal sized event like a new 9/11, saving thousands of lives in a big New York City battle with a big bad, like the finale of the Incredibles. I can honestly say I do not care what they think they can afford to show us, that's the pay off that I felt season 1 was promising and never delivered and to date I still think a big Justice League style team up is what this show needs to deliver. If it waits until the end of the series, I won't care anymore. Every season should have a powerhouse finale. They aren't delivering.
This "Misfire".... by VinnyMac666	May 9th, 2008 08:20:03 PM
I'm a fan of Heroes, but I in no way have ever thought it perfect. In fact, I consider it a bit of a guilty pleasure. But, for the life of me, I'm not sure what everyone's beef was / is with Volume 2. Can somebody explain it to me? It seems reminiscent of everyone complaining about Lost in early Season 3. Which also made no sense to me. What people didn't realize, was that Lost needed those episodes to set up and move the pieces around in such a way as to really rick as into season 4. Is it not possible Heroes is / or was doing the same? Are we really this judgmental over a half finished product?
DAMMIT, IT'S D'OHINDER! by Pennsy	May 9th, 2008 08:20:58 PM
;)
rick as? by VinnyMac666	May 9th, 2008 08:21:20 PM
I meant kick ass... d'oh
I repeat: Season 2 was NOT that bad! by TheEleventhDoctor	May 9th, 2008 08:23:53 PM
The Nathan/Parkman team up was cool, as was the Mohinder/HRG arc. Bob, Elle and Adam were interesting new characters. Adam was great as a Big Bad. They established the entire mythos for The Company. Anything with The Wonder Twins, Sylar, Monica and West and feudal Japan was a complete waste of time. It was not a complete catastrophe, and I'm sure if we had gotten a full season that we would have had a much better feeling about the season as a whole. We'll see this Fall, assuming a SAG strike doesn't fuck this season, too.
Telemundo Twins, baybee! by Pennsy	May 9th, 2008 08:27:37 PM
Ah, those were the nights. pukes
I rather like the smell of curry... by PROF IKAMONO	May 9th, 2008 08:30:18 PM
... and wet dog has its charms... ... shit ... not so much...
anyway, the endless commercials that cause SciFi... by PROF IKAMONO	May 9th, 2008 08:31:39 PM
... to mercilessly edit the Doctor have ended... so back behind the sofa!
I'll agree with those who... by James Westfall	May 9th, 2008 08:43:31 PM
... say Season 2 wasn't as bad as some make it out to be. I actually liked the feudal Japan stuff, though I like feudal Japan period. I also liked Adam's entry into the series. The only things I truly hated were the Telemundo Twins, Monica and Peter forgetting all about Caitlin being trapped in the future. There was a lot to like in Season 2 - especially Bob and ELLE, baby! I also really dug Hiro and Peter - who are friendly - coming against each other over Adam. Very nicely done.
The worst part of season 2 by INWOsuxRED	May 9th, 2008 08:48:58 PM
is that they painted themselves in a corner at the request of the network. The season itself felt like it was improving until the strike caused them to change large parts of the story, and throw on a terrible ending that prevents them from starting season 3 fresh.
Back up the Brinks truck to the Heroes' VFX department, by Pennsy	May 9th, 2008 08:51:56 PM
drop their load, and deliver BSG-esque visuals. That would be a BIG, BIG help.
as for Hiro going bad (SPOILER) by INWOsuxRED	May 9th, 2008 08:51:57 PM
all the stories out now are about how the "speedster" is going to be Hiro's arch enemy, and the Joker to his Batman, so I gotta figure he isn't going bad this season. I wouldn't care to see that happen. If Ali survives her soap opera cliffhanger, I hope she goes bad though. The only time I've liked her was when she was ripping people in half and fighting Parkman.
Xiphos, do check out this latest FunnyOrDie short.. by Pennsy	May 9th, 2008 08:54:13 PM
with John Mayer: http://tinyurl.com/3fk4eo, especially at the 2:29 mark on. :)
Pennsy by James Westfall	May 9th, 2008 08:55:41 PM
You're right about the FX. It needs to go apeshit in Season 2. Actually what season 2 could use is a two hour (or two part) battle melee which pits everyone in the series against one another so they can "cull the herd" a bit.
fucking red herring by bacci40	May 9th, 2008 08:56:28 PM
they are branded as villians by the government...and the morphing into xmen is complete....and season 2 sucked...and that comes from a guy who defended season 2, until i saw that they had no clue what to do with adam, and the tela novella twins went on their 25 hike on the way to the united states
they need to sign adam west by bacci40	May 9th, 2008 08:59:43 PM
want to make the geeks and fan boys go crazy??? get west...let him be the main villian...and stop using kring's butt buddys to write the scripts...those fucks have no clue
I'm in with the season 2 hate by HoichiTheEarless	May 9th, 2008 09:12:33 PM
Everyone's got an opinion, this is mine. The feudal japan stuff could have been awesome if it was done with some kind of respect the actual stories of the era, or perhaps more to the point, the stories we've become familiar with... namely the Samurai films from Japan's golden era of cinema. If they're going to have a white dude playing a lengendary samurai they better take care to make it something more than a casting gimmick, and on that note their failure was complete and unambiguous. Nearly every storyline failed. The claire and boytoy stuff was brutal. So was teen copycat chick. There was exactly one really good episode, the one that tied up many of the mini archs about seven or so episodes in, surrounded by a lot of mediocre to terrible episodes. Lost and BSG had their down spells but it never got so bad that it killed the initial interest I had in the series in the first place. Heroes season 2 got that bad. At his point I have no intention of watching season 3... I suppose I could change my mind but even then I wouldn't give it more than a single episode to recapture my interest.
They need to sign some proper writers more like! by IAmMrMonkey!	May 9th, 2008 09:13:30 PM
Or at least get back some of those who worked on the first half of the first season.
Yeah, Xiphos, she was critiquing Mayer's new song... by Pennsy	May 9th, 2008 09:18:43 PM
Swearing like a sailor while she's at it. :D
Xiphos! by IAmMrMonkey!	May 9th, 2008 09:20:07 PM
The British Pound I hear. :)
My Predictions For Season 3 by IAmMrMonkey!	May 9th, 2008 09:23:25 PM
Peter will become less powerful due to some extraordinary and cliched plot twist. Hiro will lose more of the sparkle that made him such a fan favourite in season one. The villains will all be rubbish. More Dawsons Creek Lite exploits for Claire at highschool. Another big setup for something that, twenty episodes later, turns out to be a big let down. I'll watch every episode and then slap myself in the face again.
Hiro will have a beer and cheat on his wife by performingmonkey	May 9th, 2008 09:28:28 PM
Oh my GOD Hiro might turn BAD?!?!?!!!?!!????? Stoning Christ alive I might just relent and NOT watch this car crash of a show. They'll turn bad but turn back by the end of the season. Oh yes. And suck my cock till I come.
people people people, it's all about Bryan Fuller by BadMrWonka	May 9th, 2008 09:28:33 PM
the moment they lost him, they lost the real edge of the show. they lost the cliffhangers that made the show great. instead of letting a really big "oh shit" moment marinate over a week, they let it marinate for 3 minutes, then said, "oh no, it's OK, everyone can come back from the dead." Fuller would never have let some of the atrociously bland and uninspired dialogue from Season 2 pass the first table reading. he never would have let the pace slow down that far. and more importantly he would have been able to more gracefully sidestep the truncated strike season. bring back Fuller, save the show, save the world.
What this show needs. by Ddub222	May 9th, 2008 09:41:01 PM
capes. and spandex. maybe black leather-like X-men. Wait...no capes!
...I was just watching Uwe Boll on Attack of the Show... by PROF IKAMONO	May 9th, 2008 09:41:40 PM
... and he was talking about how he'd like to meet Michael Bay in the boxing ring, when it hit me... There's your Show Runner! Replace Kring with Boll!!!
ahhhh...good to see old faces by Max Powered	May 9th, 2008 09:45:37 PM
Prof, Wonka, Chrth, Napoleon, Pennsy...Ororo? I hope the writing tightens up from last season, but I agree with Wonka on the Lost/crack - Heroes/wine analogy. Good one! I also hope they tie up all of those loose ends from last year's rushed ending, but I honestly have no fear. I expect to be duly impressed this Fall.
Can you actually see our faces Max? by PROF IKAMONO	May 9th, 2008 09:48:00 PM
... that's kinda scary... (the idea that you can see our faces that is, not our faces themselves...)
re: Prof by Max Powered	May 9th, 2008 09:48:25 PM
I was listening to Opie & Anthony interview Jamie Kennedy for a new movie, and Kennedy talked about Boll beating the crap out of internet critics (as mentioned in depth here previously)...what would he do for episodic network television? Only the most craptacular trainwreck EVER. Bring the pain.
PROF IKAMONO by bacci40	May 9th, 2008 09:54:11 PM
boll insists the fight is on, and everyone showing up with 10 ticket stubs from his upcoming opus will get in free....the man is hilarious
PROF IKAMONO by bacci40	May 9th, 2008 09:54:14 PM
boll insists the fight is on, and everyone showing up with 10 ticket stubs from his upcoming opus will get in free....the man is hilarious
I still don't see what's so bad about West by Drath	May 9th, 2008 09:54:27 PM
His story was dragged out too long, but that's true of all of them. He bonded with HRG, and that made me like him. I hope he returns. I thought Bob was totally unbelievable as the uber-evil father, and they totally wasted telling us more about Hiro's father and Angella Petrelli. I liked better what was suggested about the older generation in Chapter 1 than I did in the Generations chapter. Also I wasn't very excited by Adam, but I'll concede that between the overlong stay in Japan and Peter's stupidity while working with Adam (never uses mind reading or phasing or time freezing despite being obvious times to use said powers) make it hard to judge him fairly. And I don't think anyone anywhere liked the twins and Sylar storyline. In general I think that season 2 stumbled by its tone, its pacing, and what happened with Hiro and Peter (amnesia, already, how new!).
but it would be fun to watch, wouldn't it? by PROF IKAMONO	May 9th, 2008 09:55:49 PM
... maybe for all the wrong reasons, but still... A Boll episodic network show would not be like crack nor wine... ... it would be like one of those huge German mugs of the finest Bavarian beer... ... smacked right into your forehead...
bacci by PROF IKAMONO	May 9th, 2008 09:57:36 PM
God I hope this fight happens... Boll would knock Michael Bay silly... ... oh wait, Bay's already silly...
wanna fix the show??? by bacci40	May 9th, 2008 09:57:49 PM
its rather simple...you hire peter milligan as head writer...or at least as a consultant...
fun? by Max Powered	May 9th, 2008 09:59:49 PM
Das Boot!
season 1 and season 2 were exactly the same by slappy jones	May 9th, 2008 10:03:30 PM
they were both as shit as each other. milo ventigmililigiglia is one of the worst actors on screen today. the cheerleader girl is awful. everyone is bad. there is not a good performance Amongst any of them. the to cap it off we are meant to get excited about sylar returning?? ooohhh look out everyone sylars back..the least scary lamest villain in history is back for round two. I wonder if this time they can have an even more boring and unexciting final showdown with him as they did last time?? if any show can pull that off its this one. absolute garbage.
Slappy: by Max Powered	May 9th, 2008 10:08:05 PM
I'm not a troll. Having said that...why watch? If it disgusts you to that degree...why care? Why post at all?
I guess this means that Nathan and Nicky aren't dead? by RAVENL0RD	May 9th, 2008 10:23:27 PM
They are back as villainous zombies! Finally, somebody to match Sylar's taste for brains!
Xiphos by Max Powered	May 9th, 2008 10:28:42 PM
Do you mean MiraJeff?
I thought this show was great... by tbransonlives	May 9th, 2008 10:30:27 PM
Right up to "Five Years Gone". What an amazing nose dive this show took after that episode. RIP Heroes, you peaked at episode 20.
"slightly misfiring 2nd season"??? by Shermdawg	May 9th, 2008 10:40:38 PM
"SLIGHTLY"???
IAmMrMonkey wins this thread by Mr_X	May 9th, 2008 10:51:29 PM
completely agree with all your comments dammit!
Xiphos & Monkey are right... by Yeti	May 9th, 2008 10:59:30 PM
But I'll still get sucked in and enjoy it for the most part. Shows have to get Smallville bad before I quit them. Maybe I'm a massicist?
um by jackofhearts29	May 9th, 2008 11:11:24 PM
Yeah... whole lot of info there... they're just trying to keep viewers on board because they know villains are always more interesting.. so they'll throw a lot of Marvel angst and "conflicted" personalities
Idea for Season 3... by JacksParasites	May 9th, 2008 11:47:54 PM
The entire season can just be the remaining wonder twin's journey back across the border in real time. After all, it worked for season 2. Oh yeah, that's right. That sucked.
The thing about Heroes being off the air... by captboulder	May 10th, 2008 12:28:36 AM
is that no one really missed it!
Unless they give "Copycat" more time... by wowsah156	May 10th, 2008 12:59:34 AM
then i cant see how Heroes will remian fresh and interesting. I want to see more conflict between Hiro and peter, has well. Also i want Hiro to evolve into the future version of himself. And big muthaphukin battles has well. none of this weak HRG "we will remain has a famiy" soap opera crap.
Can't believe NBC didn't give Journeyman a season2! by captboulder	May 10th, 2008 01:36:06 AM
At least that had a better chance of being the better show in the long run!
HEROES has a high mountain to climb. by LoneGun	May 10th, 2008 01:44:16 AM
What with the consistent excellence of other current serialized dramas, those HEROES writers have a formidable challenge ahead of them, especially after that near-disastrous 2nd season. A serial demands a lot of time from viewers, so it definitely needs to deliver the goods on a regular basis, the way LOST has, the way BATTLESTAR GALACTICA has, the way 24 has. With so many great shows to choose from and only so much time to devote to TV watching, who wants to take a chance on an ongoing serial that could be great (HEROES Season One) or could be awful (HEREOS Season Two)? That said, I'm willing to give HEROES one more chance, because of my appreciation for its first season.
Ya know what's a good show, and deserves some AICN lovin'? by Shermdawg	May 10th, 2008 02:17:44 AM

SUPERNATURAL. by Shermdawg	May 10th, 2008 02:18:04 AM

Season 2 was a trainwreck... by cripeman	May 10th, 2008 02:33:41 AM
the really started skimping with the show and put way to much money in the hype maybe this crappy promo means they are going to lean more towards production
SO IT MUST BE YOUR FAVORITE SHOW CUNTHAM SNITCHWALKER by suit and tie	May 10th, 2008 02:34:31 AM
FUCKING NUT GARGALLING FAGGOT SNITCHWALKER YOU ATTENTION SEEKING LITTLE BITCH, YOU MAKE MAKE THIS TO EASY FUCK HOLE. I'M COMING FOR YOU MY LITTLE MANGINA BITCH.
They Have a Fuck of a Lot to Prove by Queefer Bukkake	May 10th, 2008 02:55:50 AM
After that last terrible season. I have my doubts they can deliver. I'll believe it when I see it.
skywalkerfamily, why'd you change your screenname? by Shermdawg	May 10th, 2008 02:58:47 AM
Did you honestly think people wouldn't be able to spot your posts?
CUNTWALKER YOU BITCH CUNT by suit and tie	May 10th, 2008 02:59:22 AM
YOU'RE AN ATTENTION SEEKING WHORE. STOP POSTING MULTIPAL TIMES IN EVERY TALKBACK. YOU WANT THE ATTENTION DADDY IS GIVING BEACUSE YOU LIKE MY COCK UP YOUR ASS YOU FUCKING MENTAL DEFECTIVE. STOP POSTING MULTIPAL FUCKING MENTALLY RETARDED NUT JOB ATTENTION SEEEKING POSTS YOU FAT KNOB SLOBBERING SHUT IN. PUT THE COCK AND PIZZA DOWN AND GET THAT WORTHLESS FUCKED UP HEAD OF YOURS FIXED. YOU WILL NEVER BE A SUCCESS SO KILL YOUR SELF AND STOP STEALING THE GOVERMENT CHECKS AND CHEESE YOU WORTHLESS SACK OF SHIT GLORY HOLE LURKER.
"horror show for gay people" by PROF IKAMONO	May 10th, 2008 04:48:36 AM
... I don't know, Sam and Dean are cute and all, but they never even take off their shirts or anything... ... the only genre show that seems to be "for gay people" is Torchwood. I, for one appreciate all of the Jack/Ianto scenes. (of course he also said "gay people" not "gay men" so I guess one should point out that lesbians have a lot of reasons to love BSG...)
The 2nd season curse by alpha	May 10th, 2008 05:19:07 AM
Heroes was always going to struggle in it's second season much like Lost the first season was a big success but ti's formula couldn't be used again the next year. This meant that whatever they did 2nd season was always going to annoy some people because change always does. The 2nd season of Heroes was inconsistent but nowhere near the clusterfrak people make it out to be much like Lost's 2nd season. Hopefully Heroes will come up with a more compelling and centered storyline for the 3rd season. Personally I think they are on the right track ideas wise but we will have to wait and see.
It's not a 3rd season by Trik_Ster	May 10th, 2008 05:23:42 AM
it's going to be season 1.75. Everyone will forget everything they experienced previously. The big problem will be discovered via accidental time travel. HRG will pull heelface and faceheel turns. Sylar will stare at the back of peoples heads while rubbing his crotch. Same old, same old.
untapped potential... by PROF IKAMONO	May 10th, 2008 06:08:46 AM
... that is the greatest flaw of this series. Time and time again they set up something... with no pay-off. Uluru. Sweaty Kruger Sulu and Mother Patrelli's "powers" (just wht the fuck were they?) anticlimax after anticlimax... I mean take Bob for example... a man who can transmute the elements... just use a little imagination and think of the possibilities... But they just keep throwing all their best ideas away... They haven't even done anything with the frickin' cockroaches! (and this from me who actually likes the show)
Why Heroes Sucks by hechtal	May 10th, 2008 07:06:10 AM
Aside from the shitty writing, this show doesn't have the budget to show anything cool, hence Kring and his league of fag-holes filling up time with the Dawson moments that make me want to puke shit and blood whilst stabbing myself in the ear with a screwdriver. Another great idea already ruined, Heroes is dead - it died with the Mexifuck Wonder Twats and the horrible New Orleans side story. Fuck Heroes right in it's eclipse-like brown eye.
"Hiro and Peter - who are friendly - ... by pokadoo	May 10th, 2008 07:57:21 AM
... - coming against each other over Adam". I think that's the exact moment season 2 lost it for me!
still a ripoff of X-Men, 4400, Lost, Rising Stars? by BrowncoatJedi	May 10th, 2008 07:58:58 AM
and Watchmen? Tim Kring, you are shameless.
There needs to be a culling in the premiere by dj_bollocks	May 10th, 2008 08:09:25 AM
Don't bother introducing anyone until we've cut back a little....
... oh yeah, I almost forgot... by PROF IKAMONO	May 10th, 2008 08:55:13 AM
... cock AND pizza??? ... at the SAME time??? Damn, Bro that's talented...
Lost season 2 by ChrisVenom	May 10th, 2008 09:34:22 AM
I dont think its as bad as people make it out to be. There were slow parts sure, but the payoffs were really great.
Is it a budget thing? by Leopold Scotch	May 10th, 2008 09:36:58 AM
This show was doing extremely well for itself, making everyone lots of money but they didn't appear to have the budget to pay off on the promises it was making. Or if they did, they didn't use it in the right places. Hitting the reset button on so many storylines for Season 2 was completely idiotic as well. It was as if they were stalling until they could find a destination for each story. Obviously, a season needs a story before it goes into production, but that's not the way it came across. I still have hope that it can be redeemed but they have to work their asses off to come up with a brilliant script and deliver on the concepts with a decent effects budget.
Remember by nobletoast13	May 10th, 2008 09:38:13 AM
...when people said this was better than Lost? The shows at its best when it’s ripping off X-Men, i.e. - Five Years Gone. Just have the heroes form some sort of Justice League and get it over with. And I just watched the Battlestar Galactica miniseries and it was awesome. I feel sad to have missed the boat with that show. Time to catch it, I guess.
There's a TON of problems with Heroes by hechtal	May 10th, 2008 10:31:28 AM
I mean, where to begin? Kring saying that he had never even read a comic book before was either a blatant lie or a total sign that he should be the last person involved in a "comic book TV show." The first season had it's ups and downs, I personally think that Ali Stripper and her family was the weakest and most pretentious and unneeded plot arc. The show was moving full speed ahead with people discovering powers and a serial killer being introduced. As much as I don't understand all of the gayness that surrounds the die-hard Sylar fans, he was a good villain for about 12 minutes. The finale was total shit. I don't understand why they wouldn't mind-bend us and reveal that Linderman snuck a nuke into NYC, that way they would have had to team up to find it while fighting Sylar. Not only that, Peter being flown up by Nathan reeked of lameness. There should have been an epic battle in the streets, and I think it would have been much cooler if Peter had flown an actual nuke up high (super strength and flight), so that what he did actually matched the painting of the exploding man, who looked like he was throwing something or casting some kind of energy. Not to mention some things that stuck out, like old Ted going nuclear when he gets shot, but Sylar carves his skull and nothing. I understand most Sci-Fi requires a suspension of disbelief, but they don't even try in Heroes - it's become like a sappy soap opera where all the emo guys and girls group hug and bleed black poison from their eyes. Don't even get me started on Season 2, which featured even dumber plots and dialogue. Like anyone gives a flying fuck about those two retards and their twin retard power, or the chick who can watch something and then do it. That is about as stupid as a mutant power to form throwing knives. Claire's arc was gay, her boyfriend is an even more faggy version of Superman Returns, and Elle was totally underused. I'm sure there's tons of stuff I'm leaving out, like a white guy being a famous samurai, the horrible special effects, the FUCKING RETARDED ireland parts. I mean christ, Peter can move a dump truck with his mind but can't steal a box off of a thug. I don't think there should be a season 3, because I don't see how it can possibly get better with Kring in charge. I used to think Heroes was better than Lost, but now I see it's just as bad, if not worse. I group Bsg in there too, because OMG, that is a shitty storyline, with it's overused special effects and no budget. Seriously, after the first 3 or 4 cylons were revealed I decided that the show was fucking stupid. It was great starting out, then turned into every other show in recent history, except for Firefly, which should have been picked up and continued by Sci Fi, instead of the garbage that BSG is. Yes, the original was garbage, and the re-imagining is garbage.
Check out this new Heroes type show! by jewican	May 10th, 2008 10:41:57 AM
http://www.youtube.com/ watch?v=r64QBepXJSY
But you still watch it anyway by Dreadlock Holmes	May 10th, 2008 10:43:36 AM
So shut the fuck up.
Had enough of Heroes by aceattorney	May 10th, 2008 10:44:19 AM
After the bad second season.
Some people actually enjoy this show by zooch	May 10th, 2008 11:02:53 AM
Yeah, season 2 was weak. But I still enjoyed watching it while it was on. The show still has alot of potential. I don't understand why people wish the show would get cancelled. That's not necessary, just don't watch it. People still want to see this show get good again.
Wow, there are some pretentious pricks around here... by TheEleventhDoctor	May 10th, 2008 11:19:24 AM
"It is popular, I must hate it!" How charming. By the way, I find it entertaining that you guys missed the entire point about Kensei. "Some white guy" wasn't the famous samurai. HIRO, not Adam, was the samurai of legend. They made that pretty clear with an exchange between Hiro and Yaeko.
Supernatural is The Dukes of Hazards.. by Amadeo Zeller	May 10th, 2008 11:24:00 AM
gone X Files without the humor. The two leads has as much charisma as a manequin.
Its hard to explain by The Pelti	May 10th, 2008 11:35:40 AM
I know a lot of people who won't watch Heroes (or Lost) because the hype turns them off. I know still others who hate it because they feel its a total ripoff of various comics. I'm just thrilled to see comic book style storytelling on the screen. Its had its ups and downs, but it's still really fun. One of the problems is that they drag through to many concurrent plotlines. During the second season, each set of 2-3 main characters had their own plot going. Matt/Mohinder, Peter in Ireland, Hiro in Japan, Micah in NOLA, The Telemundo twins, Nathan, Nikki, The Bennetts. There were like 8 different plotlines running from episode to episode. Considering that even Lost and BSG, two of the more tightly plotted shows on TV, rarely have more than 4 running plotlines, and even 24, whose very concept is based on multiple simultaneous plotlines, almost never breaks 4 (for their classic 4-way split screens), usually sticking to CTU, Jack, The bad guys, and one other group. The other big problem they had was trying to repeat the highly successful "slow burn" of the first season. Much like Lost's first season, they doled out information very slowly. But once things got moving at the emd, both shows made the mistake of slowing down again to try to reclaim the magic. Hopefully Heroes can correct that mistake as well as Lost has.
TheEleventhDoctor,,,i am not a pretentious prick by bacci40	May 10th, 2008 12:45:46 PM
and god, did they eff up the kensei storyline...here they threw away their chance to have their own vandal savage, and instead what we got was another emo super who got tired of dealing with mortals...doofy
Do G4 even bother showing the repeats anymore? by captboulder	May 10th, 2008 12:52:17 PM
They bought some eps and hyped it. Then when Heroes went belly up, they bailed! Perhaps the smartest move G4 has ever made!
G4 by INWOsuxRED	May 10th, 2008 01:11:14 PM
They ran every episode including the finale, along with their after-show. They also advertised that they would do the same thing with Lost and then never did. Even when Heroes wasn't doing well, I liked the after-show and I hope they bring it back for Season 3.
NBC has been kind of scary with this show too by INWOsuxRED	May 10th, 2008 01:18:40 PM
They changed the way the finale of season 1 was presented, didn't seem to care enough about the show to throw a budget into the finale even though the show was a huge hit at the time. Then they got the creators to change the ending of season 2, an entire season that was looking pretty low budget at the time. Obviously things in season 2 didn't work, but for the most part they were already coming to an end (one twin was dead, Hiro was back from Japan, Peter figured out he shouldn't be Adam's puppet). That doesn't excuse Kring. At best he had leverage at one time and still let the network fuck with the show. How much worse will it be now that he doesn't have the leverage of a smash hit? Reminds me of Raimi letting outside influences "force" characters into his Spider-Man movie, as if two of the biggest movies ever made didn't give you some leverage with the studios.
Shermdawg....Do you know if Supernatural got picked up? by Yeti	May 10th, 2008 01:51:51 PM
For season 4? I'm hearing conflicting reports.
Heroes counterparts by Miguel De Barioz	May 10th, 2008 02:00:43 PM
Hi Guys - had a few ideas about who the Heroes were based on... me and my dad came up with this list... anyone want to add some thoughts. Peter - Spiderman. Nathan - Superman. Hiro - The Nazarine. Claire - Invisible Girl. Kenzo - The Green Goblin. I could go on and on. Thoughts anyone?
slightly misfiring 2nd season? by Napolean Solo	May 10th, 2008 02:47:57 PM
That's an understatement. Heroes Season 2 was the only show which was actually SAVED by the WGA strike last year. That season was HORRIBLE. Hopefully The Kringmeister learned a valuable lesson from it and will rectify his mistake.
Yeti, it did. by Shermdawg	May 10th, 2008 02:54:10 PM

That wasn't aimed at you, bacci40 by TheEleventhDoctor	May 10th, 2008 02:55:07 PM
I'm sorry, I was referring to the guy that ripped on HEROES, LOST and GALACTICA all in the same post. I apologize for the misunderstanding.
For a 4th AND 5th season. by Shermdawg	May 10th, 2008 02:55:13 PM

Amadeo Zeller, if you think there's zero humor in SUPERNATURAL.. by Shermdawg	May 10th, 2008 02:59:08 PM
...you sure as fuck ain't watching it. Especially the Christmas and "Groundhog's Day" installments.
Here's the problem with Heroes by Dominic-Vobiscum	May 10th, 2008 03:21:06 PM
They come up with good ideas and interesting characters, but then use the LAZIEST plot devices and shortcuts possible. They also spend all their time building things up and diddling away time on boring crap and either puss out on the stuff that should be exciting and explosive (season 1 finale) or show the lead-up/aftermath, but not the action (Kenzo doing his legendary deeds).
gotham_night, why you are 100% gay even though by smackfu	May 10th, 2008 03:22:17 PM
you don't know it yet. Allow me to explain. You see, a heterosexual man should have no issue whatsoever with looking at another man, a good looking man, a man with his shirt off, and a man stark naked. Because if you make no sexual association with what you're looking at, it wouldn't bother you or make you uncomfortable. This is why most of us can look at say, a naked dog every day and feel completely indifferent about it. Because it's a different species, sexual attraction is a non-issue, ergo you don't feel uncomfortable about watching it's kit swing around all day, or seeing it's little dog-vag peeking out from behind it's tail. Because you don't care, you are sexually neutral towards the dog. So if you are made uncomfortable by looking at a good looking man, a shirtless man, or even a naked man (in such circumstances as it is reasonable and expected that he would be naked, such as in a gym shower, porno film etc) then this absolutely means your mind is making a sexual association with these images. It means you are not sexually neutral towards other men. It only feels gay for you to watch supernatural because you have gay feelings when you watch it. Here's a pro-tip. Almost all the tv shows they show on tv have good looking young male leads. It's a fact, people prefer to look at good looking people regardless of gender. If watching these particular 2 guys makes the show seem gay to you, it's because you probably have a little repressed man-crush on one or both of them.
TheEleventhDoctor...sorry, assumed you were referring to by bacci40	May 10th, 2008 03:25:17 PM
all the critics...ill be honest, when heroes was premiered at comic con, i thought it was a horrible idea...but i didnt know that fuller was in on the project...watch the first season, all the best stuff has fuller written all over it, right down to takei's role in the show....fuller is now gone, and so is that touch...and kring refuses to acknowledge it...kring is very much like stan lee after kirby left marvel...its like, "hey, im the idea man, i can get anyone to do the grunt work"....but it doesnt work that way...and the series suffered for it...add to that, there doesnt seem to be one no man on set...for example, when kring came up with the telanovella twins, someone needed to say...no..no one is watching this show for social commentary...same with the nola bit...
thank you smackfu... by PROF IKAMONO	May 10th, 2008 03:29:45 PM
... couldn't have said it better myself... (although ALL cowboy shows are actually for gay people... especially the Lone Ranger... )
Embarrassed for having supported this show by Prof. Pop-Cult	May 10th, 2008 03:40:04 PM
You know the term "sweet release of death"? That's what it felt like to me when the writer's strike stopped the second season of Heroes. I really supported this show during its first season, way back before the pilot aired, and encouraged people to watch it, and championed it on these Talkbacks. I feel embarrassed now. Sorry about that, guys. Oh, well, at least LOST and BSG are still watchable.
Heroes S2 by Chilli815	May 10th, 2008 04:10:50 PM
I loved it. Unconditionally. But then, I don't go in expecting something it was never meant to be.
Pretentious Pricks? by tbransonlives	May 10th, 2008 04:14:09 PM
Or pissed off geeks for investing time into something that turned to complete and total shit? That being said, I'll still tune in for the first few new episodes because it is an interesting premise. On a pro Lost rant: For awhile here it was Lost vs Heroes, but obviously Lost won. Why? Lost is about the characters just as much as it is about the overall story. See what Lost lacks in moving the story forward it makes up by making the characters 3-dimensional and Heroes has failed on both of those fronts. So even though Lost S2 was slow with the story it still had the characters to fall back on.
tbransonlives by Chilli815	May 10th, 2008 04:21:36 PM
Please, stop comparing Lost to Heroes. They are not the same show, they are not the same genre, they do not have many similarities whatsoever, aside from both sidelining good characters (Claire on Lost, The Haitian on Heroes) for inexplicable reasons.
Hell by Chilli815	May 10th, 2008 04:23:51 PM
Why don't we compare Heroes to BSG? They both have an ensemble cast of males and females.
GOTHAM_NIGHT IS A MAN BUTT FAN!! by IAmMrMonkey!	May 10th, 2008 04:50:30 PM
Major gay.
Large ensemble cast, serial , and sci fi. by tbransonlives	May 10th, 2008 04:56:24 PM
Thats enough similarites for me. And I just started watching BSG so give me a few weeks and I'll start the comparisions.
So what's going on in LOST again by kirttrik	May 10th, 2008 06:17:03 PM

I am a Doctor Who fan... by PROF IKAMONO	May 10th, 2008 06:17:05 PM
... and I am majorly gay... ...what did you think was going on behind them sofas? (besides eating pudding with cowboys)
So what's going on in LOST again? by kirttrik	May 10th, 2008 06:17:07 PM

krittrik by PROF IKAMONO	May 10th, 2008 06:23:43 PM
just scroll on up to the top ten... there's got to be a Lost Talkback up there so you can find out what's going on... ... there'll be only about nine billion posts or so for you to read through...
love the palindrome by the way... by PROF IKAMONO	May 10th, 2008 06:25:26 PM
... don't see that so often in a User ID...
oh wait, it's not exactly a palindrome... by PROF IKAMONO	May 10th, 2008 06:28:08 PM
... backwards it's kirttirk... .... that's very different, never mind.
If you don't like the show anymore... by pk68	May 10th, 2008 06:35:15 PM
don't watch it...pretty simple.
tbransonlives by BurgerKing	May 10th, 2008 06:35:55 PM
YES you're so right. I was enjoying the show, catching up online and Five Years Gone was my first episode to watch in HD on TV as it waas being aired, and it was amazing. I loved it and declared Heroes to be an awesome show everyone should see. Then after that, it started to slow down and I just reassured myself it's setting itself up. However, I have come to terms that no, Five Years Gone was the peak for Heroes and it will likely never return to that.
Cut out the stupid kid characters by JediKnight2300	May 10th, 2008 07:33:31 PM
Watching all of the new kids added into Season 2 was excruciating. They were all annoying and it sucked the life out of the core characters. To me the show peaked at the high school dance when Peter saved the cheerleader. Hopefully they will reduce the number of characters and maybe throw in some full frontal female nudity... that always makes a show/movie better.
the best part of season 2 by Smoke Monster Loves Kate	May 10th, 2008 07:59:08 PM
the scene where HRG gets shot, and then resurrected at the end of the episode. this show can't possibly go anywhere because peter's such a broken character. and even sylar has amazing abilities (nuclear) that these two require the budget of a $200 million movie everytime they meet.
anyone see the leaked footage of season 3 by Smoke Monster Loves Kate	May 10th, 2008 08:00:58 PM
on youtube from some months back? it looked somewhat interesting though i've honestly forgot most of it.
Smokey, by INWOsuxRED	May 10th, 2008 08:52:24 PM
Yeah, that leaked footage was cool, but I'm not sure they will even use it, they scrapped so much of what was to be. Some scenes made it seem like Sylar invades the paper company. I'm assuming he lets out the "villians", but clips aren't always what they seem. I think Peter and Sylar might cooperate during season 3, as they both seem to have a common enemy.
like 12 sylars running free... by INWOsuxRED	May 10th, 2008 08:57:23 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =TxIVPkOQ4sI&NR=1
rapists, arsonists, killers... oh my by INWOsuxRED	May 10th, 2008 09:00:43 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =aJNruxgvzCU&feature=related
Did season 2 ever end? by SoylentMean	May 10th, 2008 09:00:47 PM
I stopped watching after the black tear twins kept crying black tears in every episode. I don't even know how many episodes they ran. I was really getting into Heroes after season 1 came out on DVD and then they had to add those annoying siblings to the mix. They need to make every episode a huge ass fight of some kind and devote entire blocks of 2-4 episodes to one, maybe two characters doing shit. Then bring it together and overlap the events. Stop with the constant intercutting of stories with no payoff. Heroes is not Lost, so it shouldn't try to be. That Cheerleader posed nakey yet?
SoylentMean by INWOsuxRED	May 10th, 2008 09:10:49 PM
The brother twin was killed by Sylar, but his sister remains. Chapter 2 ended with: - Peter destroying the virus -Hiro burried Adam alive in his father's grave -Adam, Matt and Nathan decide to give a press conference to let everyone know about them, but somebody shoots Nathan just as the press conference starts -Niki is trapped in a burning building that explodes or something -Sylar gets his powers back, in what was technically called the begining of Chapter 3.
that should be by INWOsuxRED	May 10th, 2008 09:11:40 PM
"Peter, Matt and Nathan", not Adam.
One twin down=reason for me to own season 2! by SoylentMean	May 10th, 2008 09:24:40 PM
Thanks for the spoiler, nice to know the show still doesn't try to make any real sense(:= I mean isn't Nikki pretty much invincible? I wonder if she'll survive? And didn't Nathan already survive his brother going all nuclear? I'll probably tune in to see what happens after I catch up with season 2, but all I care about, really, is the cheerleader.
At the time by INWOsuxRED	May 10th, 2008 09:37:13 PM
Nikki was injected with virus and she didn't have any powers. Nathan was saved by Adam's blood, and many people figure that blood will keep him alive for the shooting, but who knows. I still haven't seen anything about if those two are regulars for Chapter/Season 3.
Heroes began filming season 3 on 5/1... by Pennsy	May 10th, 2008 09:43:22 PM
That's what the folks on their 9th Wonders forums reported. It's gonna take an Everest-esque effort for me to buy the season 2 blu-ray.
I'm sure there is some K Bell behind the scenes by INWOsuxRED	May 10th, 2008 09:50:44 PM
stuff in there for you.
I already have, via YouTube, the video commentary she did by Pennsy	May 10th, 2008 09:56:18 PM
w/Ashley Crow (Mrs. HRG) on Cautionary Tales, so unless there's a featurette just about Elle, I think I'll pass. They better not kill her off. If that happens, and Dania Ramirez stays (Maja), then Tim Kring will make the dean's list for the 2008 TV Hall of Stupid Decisions.
What hell happened to Peter's Irish chick? by Marvinatmiddleage	May 11th, 2008 12:10:25 AM
How about answering that for me. If they stopped the plague then that future is gone and so is she right? Consequences in the here and now? I think someone in that family would be pretty cheesed.
BurgerKing by Chilli815	May 11th, 2008 03:16:03 AM
Wrong, Company Man is the best ep of Heroes... and the finest ep of Lost never made.
Marvinatmiddleage by Chilli815	May 11th, 2008 03:17:11 AM
There's probably a high chance that Peter is going to break time searching for Caitlin, as a test to see if he can alter what's happened in the past (future?). If he can, he'll then go after Nathan and try and stop that... only for something mega bad to happen, like, oh, 12 Sylars escaping.
Heroes vs. BSG by Chilli815	May 11th, 2008 03:18:34 AM
If you want to compare Heroes to anything, compare it to OG Star Trek. Same kind of ensemble, same feel, same slight social relevance. BSG is more in tune with Lost, a show all about the narrative arc. Characters who serve said arc are rewarded, the ones who don't are killed off or minimalised.
I like watching cute girls, but I am so over Claire by Prof. Pop-Cult	May 11th, 2008 04:40:26 AM
I'm tired of both Claire and Hayden Paniterre -- the character because the writers didn't do anything interesting with her last season, and the actress because she became over-exposed in the media. And I just have a bad feeling, based on this early synopsis for Season 3, that the producers will continue proverbially spinning the wheels with Claire.
Prof. Pop-Cult by Chilli815	May 11th, 2008 05:00:49 AM
Her adopted Father voluntarily left her family... her biological Father has just been shot... she knows her Uncle is alive - heck, I'd be very surprised if we didn't see BERSERKER RAGE Claire in S3.
What they have in mind for Claire in S3... by Prof. Pop-Cult	May 11th, 2008 05:37:54 AM
This comes courtesy of TV Guide: "Claire will try to use her powers for a greater good." Remember, toward the end of Season 2, Claire became fixated on using her blood to help humanity (cure diseases and such). This "spoiler" is only one sentence, but it fills me with dread.
Prof. Pop-Cult by Chilli815	May 11th, 2008 05:47:26 AM
And at the end of S1, she mentioned wanting to go on patrol. For all you know, she might become a vigilante ala Monica.
... to solve the budgetary problems... by PROF IKAMONO	May 11th, 2008 07:36:11 AM
... and since we already have an Indian connection with Mohinder... ... outsource the production to BOLLYWOOD!!! Imagine all the inappropriate kung-fu and musical numbers... ... and EVERY episode will be three hours long!
Confirmed by Entertainment Weekly - 2 hour premiere by Pennsy	May 11th, 2008 12:33:59 PM
On Monday, September 8. There will be a one-hour special like BSG's The Story so Far, recapping the first season and a half.
And maybe 35 episodes?? by Pennsy	May 11th, 2008 12:34:22 PM
http://tinyurl.com/5qmeqb
35 Episodes sounds like trouble by INWOsuxRED	May 11th, 2008 01:27:23 PM
If they can do it well, I wouldn't complain, but I'm not convinced they have any of the resources needed(depth of writing, depth of talent, effects budgets, etc). Could be a back door to bringing back the Origins thing, but it seemed like even thinking about that show took away from the main show. I'd like to hope that is more of a greenlight to plan some much bigger events in the future that need time to get things coordinated and done well, but I doubt it. Maybe some dingbat at NBC upped the budget because Iron Man did well.
Yeah, Gunsmoke by TheEleventhDoctor	May 11th, 2008 02:54:28 PM
The first five seasons ran 39 episodes.
Why season 2 sucked by JimboTHC	May 12th, 2008 01:48:57 AM
Writers strike aside... The audience was huge so they felt the need to expand it by adding shameless stereotype minorities. Nothing wrong with ethnic characters Mohjinder is great but the fiesta twins and Brandy were dry poorly written characters.
35 episodes of Claire and cheerleeding by just pillow talk	May 12th, 2008 07:05:30 AM
wa-hoo.
gotta say... by ATARI	May 12th, 2008 07:31:17 AM
After season 2, I no longer give a fuck about this show.
Supernatural > Heroes, Lost > Heroes, BSG > Heroes by turketron	May 12th, 2008 07:35:39 AM
Why Supernatural doesn't get a talkback here, I don't know, but Heroes does? That's stupid. Season 1 finale of Heroes tanked, and most of season 2 tanked as well. The show just needs better writers and a little more attention to detail. I still laugh at Peter using telekinesis to the point of getting a nosebleed to rip the door off that safe... WHEN HE COULD JUST WALK THROUGH THE FUCKING WALL!!! I will continue to watch , just as I do the Sarah Connor Chronicles, in hopes that it will get better. Bring on season 3.
Lost is the winner by Luscious.868	May 12th, 2008 08:34:28 AM
By default. The 2nd season of Hero's blew. Lost has had 3 great seasons, and one that was simply average (Season 2). Heros had one great season and one that stank. Lost wins.

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