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Costner Won't Travel THE HOLY ROAD!!

I like Costner. by Knuckleduster	May 9th, 2008 08:15:00 AM
I'd like to see him in more westerns.
Also, I like The Phantom. by Knuckleduster	May 9th, 2008 08:16:42 AM
I'd like to see him in more movies.
this could be... by Whitemouse	May 9th, 2008 08:19:35 AM
really really bad...
I like Costner too. by Sailor Rip	May 9th, 2008 08:20:51 AM
But I'd rather see him in something else. Waterworld ruled.
So that director has done the classical average movie by godzillasushi	May 9th, 2008 08:22:13 AM
Cool! They should remake DwW. All the kids are doing it.
Yep, more Costner in westerns please... by argonaught	May 9th, 2008 08:24:17 AM
But more like Open Range and Silverado, not Wyatt Earp.
read this yesterday on.... by rhett beavers	May 9th, 2008 08:24:22 AM
the other website that has real movie news.
Costner Actually turns down roles? by Raindog789	May 9th, 2008 08:30:53 AM
Who woulda thunk it?
Straight to DVD Career by BanAllFIRSTPosters	May 9th, 2008 08:46:38 AM
I'm surprised Costner hasn't made that transition.
Maybe.. Just maybe.... by Marillion	May 9th, 2008 09:02:13 AM
Kostner is bucking the trend of trying to catch fire in a bottle twice.. Dances with Wolves is an epic movie that will stand up as one of the classics of "our" generation... Perhaps Kostner doesn't want to take the chance of the sequel not living up to the original.. I can't blame him.. Or maybe the script just sucks...
Not Sure... by Gungan Slayer	May 9th, 2008 09:03:17 AM
Why exactly they want to make this movie, but whatever. A few years ago I remember reading Costner was working on another western. I don't know if he still is now though.
Riiiiight, cuz Costner is too busy. by fiester	May 9th, 2008 09:06:04 AM
I hear he runs his own landscaping crew now in Santa Monica.
Whatever by Series7	May 9th, 2008 09:28:08 AM
Viggo Mortensen is like that greatest actor ever according to this site. I mean he was in Eastern Promises! And A History of Violence! Both of which came off as pilots to the same HBO show that never came to be. Viggo needs to go back to playing bad guy roles or give Sean Bean back the career he never got. Viggo was awesome in the Prophecy, some of the shit he said in that movie was great. And he worked in LOTR, but I don't think he is good enough to stand on his own (Hidalgo?). And all the Eastern and Violence lovers need to go eat themselves, go watch early Cronenberg and you'll see that those movies may as well been directed by Antoine Fuqua. Kevin is smart to not do this, unlike Ford. The upside to Fords move is that Indy will make shit tons of money if it sucks or not. A bad Dancing with the Wolves: The Streets, would mean box office flop and another nail in Kevin’s already sealed coffin. Just keep touring with your band Kevin. Maybe team up with Al Gore and show Waterworld along side with An Inconvenient Truth to show that in the future movies will be this terrible.
How much does the script have to suck for Costner to pass? by thedarklinglord	May 9th, 2008 09:34:19 AM
He's probably pulling a move like that douchebag writer for the new Knight Rider series. I'll bet he's all, "I'm Kevin Costner. I starred in Waterworld and The Postman. I have a reputation to think about."
Two reasons to turn down the sequel by kwisatzhaderach	May 9th, 2008 09:36:24 AM
1. Wincer is a crap director. 2. Dances with Wolves is a classic.
Wyatt Earp by kwisatzhaderach	May 9th, 2008 09:38:01 AM
"Y'all can kiss my rebel dick." Earp is a great film.
Some movies just don't need sequels. by rbatty024	May 9th, 2008 09:44:18 AM
Dances with Wolves is indeed a classic and there's no point in trying to defame it with a sequel.
i dunno, Costner was dead on... by rock-me Amodeo	May 9th, 2008 10:01:15 AM
...in The Big Chill.
costner's right by LegoKenobi	May 9th, 2008 10:06:38 AM
leave dances with wolves be. it's perfect as-is, and you can't recreate that magic. the story for this movie, while a bit interesting, just isn't worth a new movie.
I wish Viggo was in Indy... by abovo	May 9th, 2008 10:32:24 AM
and I hope that he turns this role down.
Dances With Wolves 2: Electric Boog-a-loo... by jimmy rabbitte	May 9th, 2008 10:36:42 AM
...seriously, I can't believe it hasn't been posted yet... The charm of Dances With Wolves was, it was a new way of doing the "cowboys and indians" story. The Holy Road sounds like it be very similar to every other western ever made.
Waterworld II: The Drowning by Abominable Snowcone	May 9th, 2008 10:42:54 AM

re: Abominable Snowcone by jimmy rabbitte	May 9th, 2008 10:55:59 AM
or... how about... Waterworld 2: The Droughtening
Ditch Wincer and get Costner in the director's chair! by Kasch	May 9th, 2008 11:15:00 AM
Seriously, Wincer has made ONE good film (Lonesome Dove) and that's partially because he had the greatest cast in the world. Everything else he's done has been TERRIBLE! Crocodile Dundee in Los Angeles? I couldn't even make it through his Lonesome Dove prequel. Terrible, terrible choice for this film.
Wincer by Series7	May 9th, 2008 11:19:16 AM
Looked like he was going to become a solid B-Average director in the early 90's with Free Willy/Quigly Down Under/Lonesome Dove/Harley Davidson and the Marlboro Man (which I thought came out in the 80's, and is in the so bad its good territory) then he make crap like Operation Dumbo Drop/Phantom. Awww what am I saying, this guy was never going to make anything great, Quigly was his best work, the Willy is what he'll be known for.
More indian genocide!! by Smerdyakov	May 9th, 2008 11:28:44 AM
WE'RE SORRY, WE'RE SORRY!! All RIGHT ALREADY!
Dances with Crap... by BoggyCreekBeast	May 9th, 2008 11:31:10 AM
Couldn't stand that movie. That is all.
Donnie Darko 2 by Sailor Rip	May 9th, 2008 11:54:30 AM
WTF. They're reporting this over at joblo. D2 Salvation: The Rise of Sparkle Motion
Tombstone by Darth WickedChicken	May 9th, 2008 11:54:47 AM
The movie Wyatt Earp wishes it was.
Wow by krushjudgement	May 9th, 2008 12:03:54 PM
Nobody is saying f*** Costner yet. That's good. I like him too.
Wyatt Earp was FUCKING ACE by Proman1984	May 9th, 2008 12:05:37 PM
Better than Tombstone and an awesome movie.
The Phantom is awesome by Matthew Martinez	May 9th, 2008 01:08:43 PM
I just wanted to chime in to lend my support to The Phantom. I thought it was a wonderful throwback to '30s/'40s adventure serials. It may not be on the level of The Rocketeer, but the production design is great, the story is fun and it doesn't take itself too seriously. (Also, Patrick McGoohan was awesome as the Phantom's father. Would love to have seen him as the Phantom back in the day...)
Liked him in Silverado better than Dances.. by Ninja Nerd	May 9th, 2008 01:30:40 PM
I read just the other day that Kasdan "felt bad" about cutting some flashbacks from "The Big Chill" with Costner's dead character and cast him in Silverado to make up for it. He was good, funny, energetic, and had more than one dimension. I didn't like him in Dances near as much. The monotone voiceovers didn't help. I've always wondered it that movie would have been better with someone else playing Dunbar. Overall, I liked the movie quite a bit as the rest of the cast were spot on, the score is marvelous, and it's a good story. Silverado was a different critter, but I just like it better, especially after repeated viewings. I like Viggo, although A History Of Violence and Eastern Promises weren't that great. He was a damn fine Aragorn, I guess. Still, I'd rather see a wooden Costner reprise of Dunbar rather than have Viggo or someone else take the role. Haven't read the book, but I'm kind of interested in doing so now.
Bad idea w/o Costner by exie	May 9th, 2008 02:05:35 PM
This movie is a definite bomb w/o Costner coming back to reprise the role. I'd even want to see him back behind the camera. He's a talented actor and a good director with the right material. He's much better than this hack they have attached. If he isn't in this, they are going to have to sell this as something other than Dances With Wolves 2. You can't have a sequel without the guy who crushed the role in the original. Bad bad idea. Scrap it w/o him and make something else.
re: Nosferatu Jones by jimmy rabbitte	May 9th, 2008 03:27:56 PM
nicely done... but, shouldn't it be Electric Tatanka-loo? ...just wondering...
Nosferatu Jones by Darth WickedChicken	May 9th, 2008 03:45:01 PM
I agree with 100%. Some might use the James Bond movies as an example of recasting with success but that argument has way too many sub-arguments and I don’t have time to go in to every facet of those movies. Too much beer to drink tonight for that. This is one of the big fears I have for the new Star Trek film. New people playing the characters I grew up with is very frightening. As for the new Hulk movie, can’t be any worse than that Ang Lee that was shat up onto the screen.
Opps by Darth WickedChicken	May 9th, 2008 03:46:34 PM
That Ang Lee shat up onto the screen.
Not to mention, the book sucked.... by KnightBorn	May 9th, 2008 05:19:58 PM
I have heard plenty of good reasons for Kevin to not come back for the sequel. Another is that The Holy Road really sucked. I am not interested enough to find out if the script heavily alters the story but man was that book bad. Depressing and boring. I don't need to have everything end "happily ever after" but Jesus, what a downer of a book.
re: Ninja Nerd by Matthew Martinez	May 9th, 2008 05:51:20 PM
I wholeheartedly agree re: Silverado. I love the hell out of that movie, and it's one of the few times I can actually say that I liked Costner in something. (With the exception of Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves--still a worthwhile movie, thanks to Alan Rickman--he never drags down the quality of a movie for me; I just feel kind of indifferent towards him.) His performance in Open Range comes close, since he's fairly laconic, but Silverado is definitely his best. Have to disagree with you on A History of Violence and Eastern Promises. I thought both were great. History is definitely one of Cronenberg's best films.
Wincer's "The Lighthorsemen" Was Good by StrontiumDog	May 9th, 2008 06:09:31 PM
Wincer's WWI film, "The Lighthorsemen," was quite good. It featured great cinematography by Dean Semler, who also did "Dances With Wolves" and "The Road Warrior." That said, Dunbar's story ended well in "DWW," so a sequel seems unnecessary.
I read "The Holy Road"... by Seany-Wan	May 9th, 2008 07:22:05 PM
and I don't blame Costner. The book does not focus on Costner's character that much and when it does, author Michael Blake wants us to believe that after 11 years, John Dunbar (Dances With Wolves) is COMPLETELY out of touch with who he was. I didn't buy it. Now excuse me as I put on track 12 of John Barry's awesome score to "Dances With Wolves"...
Speaking of John Barry... by Pizza The Hut	May 9th, 2008 10:23:52 PM
...isn't he retired or something?
Yeah, but just imagine if by Ingeld	May 9th, 2008 10:49:39 PM
these Indians had developed anti-gravity ships and gotten to the far side of the moon BEFORE the Nazis. Now that would be a movie Costner would sign up for.
Costner in the Amazing Stories ep "The Mission" by Osmosis Jones	May 9th, 2008 11:29:59 PM
Also had a teenage Jack Bauer. That episode (directed by Spielberg himself) still gets my juices flowing, even 23 years later.
OPEN RANGE WAS AWESOME by BringingSexyBack	May 10th, 2008 01:38:35 AM
One of the best unsung Westerns, and great chemistry between Costner and Duvall. If you haven't seen it, don't wait.
Movies where the main character changed and made more money... by Literarywanderer	May 10th, 2008 03:20:01 AM
Um, I can give you one movie where the sequel outdid the original when the role was recast: Silence of the Lambs. Sure, Brian Cox's Hannibal wasn't the main character of Manhunter, but that recasting is what made Lambs the blockbuster Manhunter never could be.
Another sequel where the main character was recast and made more by Literarywanderer	May 10th, 2008 03:24:00 AM
Jack Ryan. Hunt for Red October made $120 million in the U.S. with Alec Baldwin in the role. Though Patriot Games didn't fare as well, Clear and Present Danger with Harrison Ford in the role made $122 million. Not to be a smart ass, just pointing out a sequel with a recast main character can outgross the original actor.
Maybe it's time for Kevin to move to television. by BrandonGK	May 10th, 2008 10:08:30 PM
And I don't mean that as a putdown either, there's a lot of good stuff out there these days, mostly on cable. Its worked for a lot of respected actors who don't necessarily put asses in theater seats anymore like Kiefer Sutherland Glen Close, Forest Whitaker, Kyra Sedgwick, Holly Hunter, and Edward James Olmos to name few. Maybe Costner could find himself a nice dramatic lead role on FX or HBO.
'Dances with wolves' was our generations 'Godfather' by BendersShinyAss	May 12th, 2008 06:14:34 AM
I didn't know there was a sequel in the works. i would adore seeing coster return to the dunbar role i'd be keen for him to return as director. I hope john barry returns to do the score. actually, is he still alive?
why does waterworld get trashed so much by BendersShinyAss	May 12th, 2008 06:37:52 AM
I think costner did such a tremendous job with DWW that he just can't match it... I mean waterworld is not without it's faults, but damn i love that film. Solid script, great action and fantastic score which really launched james newton howard into the big league. I didn't mind the postman either. it's fucking loong fer sure but it's a great chill out flick. Robin hood was pretty trashy. but it was a great time for cinema goers when costner was making these flicks.
The thing that bothered me about Waterworld. by cookylamoo	May 12th, 2008 11:33:58 AM
was why people were trying to kill Aqua-Costner instead of begging them to screw their daughters and create a race of amphibious humans.

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