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Harry Steele says INDY IV is the 3rd best of the series!

Hooray by Budgie smuggler	May 8th, 2008 05:20:47 PM

this by Budgie smuggler	May 8th, 2008 05:21:10 PM

is more like it by Budgie smuggler	May 8th, 2008 05:21:23 PM

yay by DigitalBeachWar	May 8th, 2008 05:21:59 PM
sounds like poop to me
PLANT by la_sith	May 8th, 2008 05:24:53 PM

Haters smell of fear by Radioman75	May 8th, 2008 05:26:10 PM
A good old fun time at the theater....sounds nice
tell us who dies...please! by Jett	May 8th, 2008 05:28:37 PM
is it indy?
THIS guy I believe by slone13	May 8th, 2008 05:28:38 PM
He actually gave details. Still would love to know where these screenings went down. Earliest one I can get into is May 18th. 10 loooong days.
Finally, someone mentions something we didn't already know about by filmicdrummer17	May 8th, 2008 05:28:41 PM
PERSPECTIVE. CONTEXT. Words foreign to your typical talkbacker.
Raiders is by no means perfect by The Dubliner	May 8th, 2008 05:28:53 PM
I was watching it on TV the other day and I realized how much dopey fucking dialog is in it and some of the action, if the movie was made today, would be ridiculed to no end. So FUCK UP with all the "Raiders is untouchable" horseshit! This new Indy looks like an Indy movie. Last Crusae is probably the most all round entertaining of the 3 so far. So long as this one is fun that's all I can hope for. People need to chill the fuck out and stop expecting the 2nd coming like they did with the new Star Wars flicks...
Every vote counts by My best friend	May 8th, 2008 05:29:00 PM
if you count every vote
I think they should make lots of Indy flicks just like.... by FlickaPoo	May 8th, 2008 05:29:37 PM
...the pulp adventures that the series set out to imitate. In the pulp tradition there would be oodles of Indy stories and they would be all over the place in tone and quality....but I'd pay to see them all...
this review i respect by newc0253	May 8th, 2008 05:30:54 PM
I liked Temple of Doom more than Last Crusade, so any Indiana Jones film that's better than LC is a good thing in my book.
the lost art of adventure movies by The Ghost of Marcus Brody	May 8th, 2008 05:31:04 PM
will be seen in Indy 4. Haters go comment on the G.I Joe story.
over a decade's wait is finally over by cndart	May 8th, 2008 05:31:55 PM
I get to relive my inner childhood Indy adventures once again!
Who dies? by bobsjohnson	May 8th, 2008 05:31:57 PM
Follow the link: http://tinyurl.com/5xr4s8
I'm still cynical abou this by hallmitchell	May 8th, 2008 05:33:43 PM
I believe this first two reviews. Is this one damage control?
Sorry, not biting by LargoJr	May 8th, 2008 05:33:55 PM
Raiders was simply too good, while the next two films relegated everyone to supporting straightmen and general bumbling buffoonery. In Raiders, you knew from the very start that even Brody was of an intellect and skill not to be taken lightly. It hinted that perhaps, in HIS time, he had been like Indy. Salah, Marion, even Beloc were all capable and intelligent. In the subequent films, every character became a shadowy reflection of their former glory, largely to exist only to be laughed at and pitied. I truly despise the 2nd and 3rd film, for denying me the growth each character deserved. LC's only saving grace was Sean Connery.. the man could stack pistachio shells and it would still be mesmerizing.
Yes!!! Fuck you dad! by merricks14yearoldson	May 8th, 2008 05:34:38 PM
I knew it would be good.
Makes you wonder if audiences EVER liked movies this much by Drath	May 8th, 2008 05:34:51 PM
So many differing voices of descent kind of kill the idea that anything is universally (or near enough universally) loved. Would any of the movies we love now have such spotless reputations had they come out with the amount of scrutiny we bring to them now? Even when something has a lot of fans, there's usually a backlash. There was certainly something about watching movies without all these advance reviews that made it a bit easier to just take the movie on its own terms. That said, I was mixed about Last Crusade when I saw it in 89, so I'm used to this kind of "eh, not sure it's what I wanted" feeling. Time has certainly helped me overlook most of my problems with that movie. I gotta agree about the wonder of movies being gone too. Not sure that's anything that can be helped either. You cannot go back and love movies the way you did when you were 5. I think To Have and Have Not is a great movie, but I can also tell if it were made now you'd HAVE to have a boat chase/action scene in the last act instead of so much talking. Demands are different. Oddly, THaHN isn't a movie I'd have watched when I was 5 because of all the talking, so I guess my metaphor is shot.
I rank the Star Wars movies thusly: by The Dubliner	May 8th, 2008 05:34:58 PM
1-Revenge of the Sith 2-Return of the Jedi 3-The Empire Strikes Back 4-The Phantom Menace 5-A New Hope 6-Attack of the Clones.
I rank the Indiana Jones movies thusly: by The Dubliner	May 8th, 2008 05:35:53 PM
1-The Last Cruase 2-Raiders of the Lost Ark 3-The Temple of Doom.
first by oisin5199	May 8th, 2008 05:36:57 PM

first film still the best by oisin5199	May 8th, 2008 05:37:23 PM
that is all
In Other Words, Its Really Bad by LaserPants	May 8th, 2008 05:39:19 PM
Too bad, so sad. Move on.
Spin Control. by fiester	May 8th, 2008 05:40:26 PM
They are beginning to sound like The Clinton Campaign: It's all about lowering expectations so a loss comes across as win. The only way this could possibly be good is if Shia dies horribly. Seriously, then I would go. Someone please put Shia in one of those torture-porn horror flicks and have him get cut to shreds and die crying and I will gladly pony up my ten bucks and even by a tub of popcorn to sit and watch and laugh my ass off.
JESUS CHRIST I FUCKING HOPE SHIA DIES..... by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD	May 8th, 2008 05:41:10 PM

I Don't Understand The She-Ra LeBeef Hate, Actually by LaserPants	May 8th, 2008 05:42:23 PM
Is he that hateful? He wasn't all that bad in Transformers, which was largely a piece of crap with some cool set pieces. I haven't seen him in anything else.
PLANT!! by Photosuperstar	May 8th, 2008 05:42:28 PM
Just had to say it before someone else did!
SW RANKS FOR ME...... by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD	May 8th, 2008 05:43:48 PM
1) EMPIRE 2) JEDI 3) PHANTOM 4) SITH 5) NEW HOPE 6) ATTACK
What, Harry, is a "pom"?? by TheMcflyFarm	May 8th, 2008 05:45:48 PM
and you write for a living...
Ok, so the film has screened... by Gabba-UK	May 8th, 2008 05:46:19 PM
But this review smacks as being a real one because as filmicdrummer17 said above, perspective and context. Not because its positive, I can handle it being bad (I doubt it will be) but I need to be told that by someone who obviously isn't so full of bile about past disappointments.
You people are really sad by LordMadhammer	May 8th, 2008 05:47:56 PM
"Oh I'm still hoping that this recaptures the magic." Get real. Wake up. I loved Raiders too, but for God's sake, how many times are we going to be fooled by George Lucas? I've already seen 'The Phantom Menace', thanks.
Yey, sounds hopeful by Avon	May 8th, 2008 05:49:18 PM
I am hopeful.
the beloved character Hitler dies by LarryTheCableGuy	May 8th, 2008 05:51:12 PM
in a flashback. its a suicide.
3rd best means by TheMcflyFarm	May 8th, 2008 05:52:48 PM
that it fits with the series, and considering that they are 3 of the greatest pieces of motion picture entertainment ever, that is a wonderful thing.
There is a DICKBLOOD imposter!! by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD	May 8th, 2008 05:53:17 PM
I just want to let everyone know there is some crooked fucker with the name DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOODS_DUI. FUCK THAT!
Is this the same Harry who... by Gus Van Rant	May 8th, 2008 05:58:17 PM
loved Godzilla (the horrendous Matthew Broderick edition)? Just checking...but seriously, keep up the good work you brooding ape man.
Yes, but what Beatles song is it most like? by tonagan	May 8th, 2008 05:58:50 PM
Lady Madonna?
imposter? by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOODS_DUI	May 8th, 2008 06:00:27 PM
Ooga-Booga. Have another drink, and remember: your kid hates you.
He's not Harry Steele by quentintarantado	May 8th, 2008 06:03:28 PM
He's Officially Relieved. He says so in his last line! And, I still want to see it, hints of a Phantom Menace disaster be damnned.
Harry, what is a "Pom"? by Gus Van Rant	May 8th, 2008 06:04:13 PM
Is that gangsta talk for cock? Thanks for letting us know you big brooding ape like creature...but seriously, keep up the good work!
Theres Only Room For 1 Dickblood by Frodo T. Baggins	May 8th, 2008 06:05:45 PM
Any others need to get creative
D-G-D-B by solobear	May 8th, 2008 06:06:08 PM
Yes! THE MUMMY: TOMB OF THE DRAGON EMPEROR is on my list of 15. IRON MAN made the list 16, but I've alreadt seen it-AND IT WAS EFFING AWESOME!!! What did you think?
I WISH this were like pre-Phantom Menace by Agent Johnson	May 8th, 2008 06:06:22 PM
There was a real feeling them of genuine excitement to get another Star Wars movie after so many years. Nobody cared if it would be good or not, but everybody talked about their love of Star Wars and the excitement at seeing a new Star Wars. We were all kinda together on that. The Indy stuff is just sad.
Dubliner by Olsen Twins_Fan	May 8th, 2008 06:06:42 PM
"Raiders is far from perfect."?!?! Don't you blaspheme in here, don't you BLASPHEME in HERE!!!
The Wookie has no pants!!! by Annie The Pod Racer	May 8th, 2008 06:08:23 PM
Don't sweat the small stuff. No pun intended Chewie!
Agent Johnson by solobear	May 8th, 2008 06:09:34 PM
I, for one, AM excited about the new INDY. I hold not one iota of negative thoughts or feelings for it. I am expecting a kick-ass movie, and I'll bet that I'll get just what I want. You can find things wrong with just about any movie, but that doesn't make them unwatchable, or any of the other vile crap that some of theses creeps are spewing.
I just spit cherry cola all over the screen by Silverglade	May 8th, 2008 06:09:36 PM
check out the post by the user "merricks14yearoldson" above.
by huggerorange	May 8th, 2008 06:10:37 PM
What a different and alot more positive review compared to the first review you got of indy 4..I think that first guy (shogun master) just hated his life all together and wanted to hate on indy..
You guys are unbelievable by DeCypher44	May 8th, 2008 06:11:38 PM
Oh, because this person likes it, you believe him. If the others didn't like it, then obviously they were lying about seeing it, right?
RAIDERS IMPERFECT!?!?!? by solobear	May 8th, 2008 06:12:14 PM
Look, nothing is perfect. But you can't get much better than RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK. Whoever said that shit is missing part of their brain or something. Oh, sorry, they just prefer films like ALVIN AND THE CHIPMUNKS.
DeCypher by solobear	May 8th, 2008 06:14:23 PM
Whether those two negative reiviews are legitimate or not, they have no bearing on whether I'll see INDY. I prefer to make up my own mind, thank you. Yes, I hope this positive look is more in line with the truth, but just like the other two, it hasn't swayed me in the least.
Merricks14yearoldson Has Dad Anger Today by Frodo T. Baggins	May 8th, 2008 06:15:26 PM

Wait by DeCypher44	May 8th, 2008 06:16:11 PM
Who says that ANY review is going to make someone see the movie or not? I think most of us WILL see it. Even though I have had a bad feeling about this one for months, I'm still going to see it.
Do Yourself A Favor... by solobear	May 8th, 2008 06:18:46 PM
Just go into this film with an open mind. Don't go in expecting anything. Maybe you'll be surprised. Do you REALLY think that Spielberg would turn this into crap?
There's a new Indy movie?!!?! by IAmMrMonkey!	May 8th, 2008 06:19:18 PM
Why didn't anyone warn us about this? What next? A sequel to Batman Begins maybe?
Temple of Doom better than Last Crusade? by Ashok0	May 8th, 2008 06:21:38 PM
You have to be kidding me... I love Indy as much as anybody... esp 1 & 3... but Temple of Doom was just... highly uneven. And Kate Capshaw --- wow, talk about a mediocre performance.
Btw Raiders is perfect. by Ashok0	May 8th, 2008 06:22:51 PM
I don't know how anyone can say Raiders is flawed. Unless by flawed you mean that Steven Spielberg and John Rhys Davies didn't personally come to your house and give you their autographs when you were watching the movie.
The Summer Movie Season by solobear	May 8th, 2008 06:24:32 PM
Before I went to see IRON MAN last Friday, I had a feeling that this was going to be one Hell of a summer for films. IRON MAN was a blast on all levels, and I think that most of the films that I am looking forward to seeing this summer are going to follow suit. Of all the 15 flicks remaining on my sumer viewing list, I am only really concerned about three of them not being very good-SPEED RACER, THE HAPPENING and BABYLON A.D. But I will still see them. Hopefully, they will surprise me-though I really don't hold out a lot of hope for THE HAPPENING, though.
The truth by DANNYGLOVERS-DICKBLOODS	May 8th, 2008 06:25:31 PM
I say I hate Shia because...because I actually LOVE him! There, I said it! Man, if I could have wedged my nostrils between his sticky batwings for just 30 seconds, I could die happy!
Oh shit. I can't take ANOTHER one of these today by finky089	May 8th, 2008 06:26:05 PM
I know AICN wants to show it can run mixed reviews, but enough is enough for one day/ We already have OVER 1,000 in collective Indy TB posts. Save some load to blow for tomorrow AICN!
THE ONE FLAW OF RAIDERS... by solobear	May 8th, 2008 06:26:12 PM
is that it should have went on FOREVER! When I see films like these I don't want them to end.
Long Live Indiana Jones! by finky089	May 8th, 2008 06:27:23 PM
Raiders IS perfect. Don't ever change.
FINKY... by solobear	May 8th, 2008 06:28:17 PM
Don't worry, I'm sure that everyone will have plenty to say tomorrow, and the day day after that and so on and so forth. This stuff never stops.
The death is not a major character by Budgie smuggler	May 8th, 2008 06:28:51 PM

Hey Budgie... by solobear	May 8th, 2008 06:30:41 PM
Spoilers don't bother me. If you have something to say, THEN SAY IT. Don't post cryptic crap like that. It just leads us to think that you're full of crap and don't really know.
Anyone who thinks Crusade is better than Temple.. by Prossor	May 8th, 2008 06:33:25 PM
needs to be placed into a ditch and shot in the back of their head. ASAP!!!!
Raiders was a near masterpiece. by Quake II	May 8th, 2008 06:33:51 PM
There, I said it. There is very little to find wrong with that film. It had the perfect balance of action, humor, drama and emotion. I find Raiders Of The Lost Ark an overall better film than any of the Star Wars movies.
Raiders will last beyond us by Silverglade	May 8th, 2008 06:37:15 PM
It is a timeless piece of cinema beauty. It doesn't age. It was produced in 1980 but even today it is far superior to most anything. Every once in a while production, direction, art design, costuming, music, all come together with the planets in alignment, giving us a gem that will last forever and remain fucking badass long after we are all taking dirt naps or sitting in urns.
HEY! by solobear	May 8th, 2008 06:38:26 PM
RAIDERS, TEMPLE OF DOOM, LAST CRUSADE, THE STAR WARS FILMS...I LOVE 'EM ALL. And there really is little point in trying to place one of them above any of the others. Why play favorites? If you want to nitpick these flicks to death, then be my guest, but it's time wasted.
HEY! by solobear	May 8th, 2008 06:39:45 PM
RAIDERS, TEMPLE OF DOOM, LAST CRUSADE, THE STAR WARS FILMS...I LOVE 'EM ALL. And there really is little point in trying to place one of them above any of the others. Why play favorites? If you want to nitpick these flicks to death, then be my guest, but it's time wasted.
HEY! by solobear	May 8th, 2008 06:39:45 PM
RAIDERS, TEMPLE OF DOOM, LAST CRUSADE, THE STAR WARS FILMS...I LOVE 'EM ALL. And there really is little point in trying to place one of them above any of the others. Why play favorites? If you want to nitpick these flicks to death, then be my guest, but it's time wasted.
DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD by Herb West	May 8th, 2008 06:40:12 PM
Fuck yeah! Great review man! You said you were going to do it and you did!
SORRY!!! by solobear	May 8th, 2008 06:40:43 PM
STUCK BUTTON! Goddamn modern technology!
Last Crusade is an Awesome Film by BackwardGalaxy	May 8th, 2008 06:41:10 PM
And haters need to bite me.
Shia The Beef just made dookie in your hat. by fiester	May 8th, 2008 06:41:17 PM
Now wear it and like it, America!
Wait...is E.T. the end cameo? by fiester	May 8th, 2008 06:42:51 PM
Is E.T. the dead alien? Heh.
LC vs TOD by Agent Johnson	May 8th, 2008 06:43:36 PM
I think both of them are better than 90% of sequels or even original movies. But I do have a preference for TOD. It just really captures that spirit of the 30s and 40s serials better than the other 2. It's just a really unique film.
fiester... by Napolean Solo	May 8th, 2008 06:45:35 PM
I actually don't think that would be a bad idea. People would gasp, but I think if it was ET looking, it will be quite clever.
GOD, I LOVE MOVIES!!! by solobear	May 8th, 2008 06:48:04 PM
It's a kick to see stuff from people whop aren't out to hate everything. Just this week, I talked to someone in my local comic shop about IRON MAN. There were things about it that he didnt care for, but he still liked the movie. It's easy to nitpick, and you can find something wrong with just about anything, but if you come out of a movie feeling like you were just taken on a grand ride somewhere you've never been, then the filmmakers have accomplished their mission. Yes some are better than others, some are truly crap, and few are truly great, but that's what makes being a movie fan such a cool experience.
blow.load. by El Borak	May 8th, 2008 06:48:14 PM
i'm pumped no matter what. for years tod didn't exist for me. i wasn't allowed to see it(i was a kid at the time) and when i did the gross-outs and tone differences put me off. then recently my grandad passed away and in the process of cleaning, removing things from his house i found a bunch of old video tapes. while i grieved i watched the old movies my grandad taped for me years ago. the secret of nimh, the dark crystal, those horrible ewok t.v. movies and low and behold i found a tape of temple of doom that i never knew about. my mom probably wouldn't let me see it. anyway, i watched it overe an over and now it's one of my favorites right up there with the other two. so even if kingdom differs tonally, contextually, whatever it's still indy. and indy(along with my g-dad) will always rock.
As much as I want to believe this one... by jones1899	May 8th, 2008 06:50:14 PM
and despite the fact that it SEEMS more legit, I'm just gonna ignore all of these opinions. Of course having said that ------------------------------ - YAY! New Indy film is damn good!!!!
Temple of Doom was ASS..... by Big Dan	May 8th, 2008 06:58:53 PM
When I left the theater the day it opened I wanted to punch something. It was a travesty.
Ranking by kwisatzhaderach	May 8th, 2008 07:00:15 PM
1. Raiders 2. Temple of Doom 3. Last Crusade. Anyone that thinks Crusade is better than Raiders is delusional.
T-O-D by solobear	May 8th, 2008 07:02:27 PM
TEMPLE OF DOOM is an AWESOME film. Is it RAIDERS? No, but it isn't meant to be. It sounds like you have an anger problem, Dan. I could say something about the comparison you make, but, why bother? It's too easy.
Why did you give the reviewer a new alias? by Riley Martin	May 8th, 2008 07:03:37 PM
He wanted to be called 'Officially Relieved' but you gave him 'Harry Steele'. He even wrote that in the text you copied & pasted douche!
OH BOY! Michael Bay predicts Crystal Skull will suck! Heres the by Darth-Mike	May 8th, 2008 07:03:44 PM
Watch for yourself! http://tinyurl.com/5pj2ky
I have a hard time believing... by Shoun	May 8th, 2008 07:05:07 PM
There are people in this world that think Temple of Doom is better than Last Crusade. I literally can't fathom this concept.
Michael Bay by solobear	May 8th, 2008 07:05:30 PM
Who gives a shit what Michael Bay thinks? Tell that valley boy to shut his pie hole and get TRANSFORMERS 2 made!!!
solobear by Darth-Mike	May 8th, 2008 07:06:52 PM
Watch the video... heh heh
Harry likes a "balance" of reviews. But that one's a PLANT. by NoDiggity	May 8th, 2008 07:07:46 PM
I mean, I can't believe he douches who are saying it "sounds more real" because it has "More detail". It's the thinnest review yet!
saw it a few days ago by joel007	May 8th, 2008 07:09:38 PM
Saw this thing the other night, probably in the same screening as some others who have posted here... I have been an Indy fan since I was 8 and saw the ball rolling down the tunnel so getting to finally have another Indy flick has had me... well... anxious for a while. Not knowing if it was going to be any good... Getting a little worried at pix that would leak out or from things' I'd hear... One of the things people will need to get used to about this, is that this has become more of a 50's alien as metaphor paranoia homage - right down to the bad boy in a biker jacket. All that said, this is a really interesting film. First of all, anyone who says it looks cheap or the jungle sequences look plasticky or the CGI doesn't work is full of crap. This definitely has the look and feel of the previous 3. The last 2 indy flicks had their missteps and this one is no different. In actuality, the most interesting thing to me was that of the two screenings so far - one for exhibitors and one for paramount folk - is just how many of them happen to have seen it and then rushed vague, non-specific reviews onto this particular website. Basically all full of crap, using all the spoilers that we all know are out there and info from topps cards to pretend they've seen it, trying to trash it for us in some pathetic attempt to wreck it for everyone. Why would someone do that? Why would someone send out a virus - because they're assholes. I haven't seen this movie any more than the slate of lying bastards who claim to have. Granted, one or two MIGHT have, but the rest are BS. I could have written a big fake review of this thing just like those clowns. No correction... Clown shoes. Even more useless.
Bay was joking by MattmanReturns	May 8th, 2008 07:10:11 PM

MICHAEL BAY...OOOPSS! by solobear	May 8th, 2008 07:10:31 PM
Oh, crap do I feel dumb!!! I beg Michael Bay's eternal forgiveness. Oh well, type talkback, insert foot!!!
Fuck the reviews, I'm still seeing it... by SoylentMean	May 8th, 2008 07:11:26 PM
It's true!
yeah, I know by joel007	May 8th, 2008 07:12:27 PM
but what the hell, right?
DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD has.. by Herb West	May 8th, 2008 07:14:15 PM
officially owned AICN. First he made the call (repeatedly) that those were false reviews this morning. Then he told them straight out that they were going to be on their hands and knees sucking dick. We know Harry saw it because he posted shortly after. We've all seen people banned for a lot less. So why didn't they ban him? Fear. Fear of the truth that the dickblood was speaking! Then he came right out and wrote a positive review just like he said he was going to do! Wipe that blood off your ass, AICN. DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD just got finished with it!
Reviews matter not! by solobear	May 8th, 2008 07:15:16 PM
Look at INDIANA JONES. Judge him by his reviews do you? Hm? HMMM! And well you should not, for his allies are Lucas and Spielberg, and powerful allies are they. Created him they did, made him into film. Marvelous films are they, not the crude junk some claim them to be. You must feel their force around you. Here and at the local cineplex. Everywhere!
MAY 22 by solobear	May 8th, 2008 07:18:46 PM
Y'kmow, come May 22nd, all this stuff isn't going to mean a whole lot. When that day comes, we'll all be able to make up our minds for ourselves, and a grand day it shall truly be, I've no doubt about it. I just wish that I could see it now. Y'know, for every employee of Paramount who has gotten to see this film early, there are a thousand of us who deserve to see it more!
I am ashamed.... by Herb West	May 8th, 2008 07:20:33 PM
to be an AICN talkbacker today. I'm not kidding.
TRUE SHOCK by solobear	May 8th, 2008 07:22:17 PM
These reviews have no shocked me in any way. The most shocking thing I've seen today has been the EW pics of Josh Brolin as W. Now THAT was a shock to the system!
Why ashamed? by solobear	May 8th, 2008 07:23:38 PM
What are you ashamed of, Herb?
Real or not-that is the question... by solobear	May 8th, 2008 07:26:59 PM
When I read the first two reviews of INDY 4, I got the strange feeling that they were fake. I don't know if it was the lack of detail or the general negative vibe, but they just reeked of falsity. The third one, while positive, seemed more real, but I still don't know about any of them. It's interesting to see, I guess, but I don't put much stock in them at this time. I got a much bigger thrill listening to the small snippets of Jown Williams' score for the film on Amazon.com. Now THAT made me feel good!
So basically it's an alright movie... by Johnno	May 8th, 2008 07:27:07 PM
Disappointing I guess, but there's room for an alright movie in my schedule since I'm not such an overcritical bastard.
solobear by Herb West	May 8th, 2008 07:28:56 PM
I'm ashamed at what this site has sunk to. I'm ashamed at how gutless the editors are. It's like that joke earlier about every major movie website getting a GI Joe photo except this one. Well, there's a reason for it.
OK by solobear	May 8th, 2008 07:32:21 PM
Thanks for the clarification, Herb. I've only recently started posting talkback here, but I've been a daily visitor to this site for quite some time. I tend to take much of what I see with a grain of salt, if you will. But I do tend to agree with you.
gotham_night by Herb West	May 8th, 2008 07:33:48 PM
Bullshit.
Lucas wanted the film to be more episodic... by Canada's King	May 8th, 2008 07:34:22 PM
...which probably has contibuted to there being an overall lack of character development on Indy's behalf (as the reviews have noted). Betcha that's part of the reason Darabont was up in arms - Lucas chopped the char. development out of his script!
goddam- i wish- harry would- by Bunger!	May 8th, 2008 07:35:13 PM
learn appropriate use- of dashes and elipses... I gather he intends his writing to read the way Shatner's dialog sounds. Hey Harry, it doesn't work that way. It just looks like you are a fifth grade drop-out. Get an editor.
The Fear Harbored by the studios by solobear	May 8th, 2008 07:36:17 PM
I really don't know why the studios fear sites like these. I guess that, on one hand, they think some of the negativity that flows here and elsewhere could sink their films. But on the other hand-and I think that this is MUCH more significant-they are getting a LOT of free promotion on these sites in one form or another. If their are folks from the studios checking this stuff out daily, then they ought to be able to tune out the negative garbage from the know-nothings and focus on the real stuff here and listen to what the REAL fans of their products think.
STUDIO FEAR part II by solobear	May 8th, 2008 07:41:01 PM
I know that spoilers are a big gripe with the studios, but I look at it this way. If those of us who frequent this site don't mind spoilers, then maybe they shouldn't either. If you don't want to see spoilers, then don't read them. And I'll bet that I'm not the only one who thinks that some of these so-called spoilers are actually planted by studios for free publicity. Let's face it, that 2-FACE photo from THE DARK KNIGHT was up on this site for an awfully long time before it was pulled. Does anyone smell the hand of a Warners plant???
BOTTOM LINE by solobear	May 8th, 2008 07:45:02 PM
I guess that when push comes to shove, as long as we fans get to see and/or hear what we want, who really gives a damn. I want info about the stuff that I enjoy, and I'll go where I need to to get it. If that means that I'm pissing off or frightening the suit monkeys who run the studios then so be it.
solobear by Herb West	May 8th, 2008 07:45:58 PM
I think there was a time when studios feared or respected this site. That is, before it became the trailer park of the internet. It would be nice to think that fans could communicate their feelings to the studios through this site and it should be a good way to do it. It's just hard to communicate with all the white noise of the trolls, haters, idiots, and 12 year olds fighting as hard and fast as they can to say absolutely nothing.
Okay. I hope that one of the site's... by mrfan	May 8th, 2008 07:46:26 PM
regular writers gets a chance to place a review. Positive or negative it would nice to read someones familar work. Really hard to trust people not in the inner circle.
And solobear... by Herb West	May 8th, 2008 07:49:58 PM
I thought the same thing about that 2-FACE photo from THE DARK KNIGHT. A true leaked image that the studios don't want to be seen don't stay on AICN for over 24 hours.
Truth is.... by Evil_Imp	May 8th, 2008 07:50:55 PM
I'm not the least bit concerned about negative reviews. It's just the nature of the internet beast. Everyone loves to hate. The litmus test is, the more people hate the film, the better it is going to be for me.
AMEN BROTHER! by solobear	May 8th, 2008 07:52:51 PM
I couldn't agree with you more, Herb. That's why I started posting here-I was getting sick and tired of all the juvenile, potty-mouth nonsense that seemed to become more and more prevalent here. Now I can toss a few colorful words out myself now and then, but most of this stuff is becoming truly vile. There is an overall veil of negativity that seems to be almost permanently lowered on many of these talkbacks. It is so much more fun to talk to people who truly appreciate something rather than spend time trying to defend something you treasure from idiots whose only mission is to make themselves, and more and more, this site look idiotic. Let's get back to the basics of being film fans. Only then will OUR influence ever truly be felt.
Yeah and one more thing... by Herb West	May 8th, 2008 08:01:52 PM
like you said, it's not only talkbackers that read these posts. I have no doubt that the film industry moniters and keeps tabs on what we talk about. So what must they think when talkbackers have gotten to the point of say, telling the editors and owners of the site about the many ways they are going to be sucking dicks on almost a daily basis. I've been reading these posts all day, and right now, I am embarrassed for them at AICN. Want to turn AICN around? Start by growing some balls.
Why Can't We All Just Get Along! by solobear	May 8th, 2008 08:06:01 PM
We can talk about film and tv and comics and so one without resorting to the no-I.Q. nonsense that seems to flow pretty freely around here. I don't feel like I need to insult someone because they don't have the same opinion as I do. Regardless of what anyone might say, there IS a line that doesn't really need to be crossed. I mean, c'mon, what does someones genitalia have to do with filmmaking anyway? If you're wondering what I'm talking about, just read some of the vile crap that seems to permeate these talkbacks.
The FILMMAKKERS by solobear	May 8th, 2008 08:12:24 PM
People like Peter Jackson, Steven Spielberg and others have said in interviews that they frequently visit this site and read this stuff. So why do you nutballs have to drag thses talkbacks into stinking levels of foul drek. Do you think you're impressing someone? All you're doing is making yourself look incredibly stupid, and giving people reasons to see AICN and its readers look irrelevant. Do everyone a favor, GROW THE FUCK UP or SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!
The question is... by SoylentMean	May 8th, 2008 08:12:30 PM
When will I start to watch my Indy trilogy? The Sunday before, perhaps that Monday, or better yet an eyeblistering triple feature that ends only minutes before I have to head off to the theater? Reviews for this movie are only going to show their true merit AFTER the film has finally been released worldwide. I just wonder how long the lines are gonna be, because you know there are gonna be lines.
everyone just CALM DOWN by joel007	May 8th, 2008 08:13:53 PM
Jeez, go to rotten tomatoes.com, they have the old reviews compiled of the previous 3 Indy flicks. And there are critics who flat out ripped those movies - yes - even Raiders! Don't listen to people who go into this thing with some pathetic agenda or small dick complex. Just watch and enjoy.
Oh, and when's the Blu-Ray set getting released? by SoylentMean	May 8th, 2008 08:14:52 PM
I'd have to venture a guess that says December is going to be the month where all four Indy movies and all three, I mean six Star Wars movies will get the Blu-Ray treatment. When we start getting the spectacle films of my youth on Blu-Ray then I will be one excited hamster.
TICKETS by solobear	May 8th, 2008 08:15:21 PM
I'm getting my tickets either tomorrow or Friday. My best friend is flying halfway across the country to see INDY with me, and nothing or no one is gonna screw up what is sure to be one helluva good time!!!
Not to be confused with an excited hamper by SoylentMean	May 8th, 2008 08:15:48 PM
LAUNDRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!
I was with this review until by Yamato	May 8th, 2008 08:16:01 PM
Temple of Doom was ranked 2nd best of the series!?! Anyone who says that...well, let's just say I am not going to listen to any opinion they have about movies.
Getting advance tickets is true wisdom by SoylentMean	May 8th, 2008 08:16:53 PM
so is bathing regularly. I plan to do both for this movie!!!!!!!!
river chase, best indy chase? blasphemy! by Orionsangels	May 8th, 2008 08:17:17 PM
The truck chase from Raiders will always be the best chase sequence ever put on film!
Temple of Doom was a naughty viddie for me by SoylentMean	May 8th, 2008 08:19:02 PM
Of course I developed a deeply irrational fear of having my heart removed, still beating, from my chest cavity before my still breathing body was dropped in a pit of flame! I'm pretty sure that can't happen in real life, but just in case India is off my Asia tour.
Soylent!!! by solobear	May 8th, 2008 08:19:41 PM
Look Good, SMell Good, See A Good Movie. There's no sounder advice to give. Oh- wait a minute-turn off your frickin' cell phones before you enter the theater and don't spend the movie checking your useless text messages. There! I got that out of my system!
Harrison Ford to voice a character in TinTin by SoylentMean	May 8th, 2008 08:20:25 PM
It's just a guess, but it feels right. Indy gotta masticate el comer!
My Adventure Hat by solobear	May 8th, 2008 08:21:35 PM
I'm still trying to decide if I should wear my fedora to the movie. I'd take it off before the movie started, of course. Decisions, decisions!
Bring wiffle bats for cellphone users & texters by SoylentMean	May 8th, 2008 08:22:10 PM
But make sure you drive a few nails through the business end. The only thing worse is people conducting whole conversations during a movie you've waited years to see. Soda straws make good theater shivs!
The Art Of Theater Revenge by solobear	May 8th, 2008 08:23:44 PM
The Possibilities are endless...
They're not making movies for talkbackers by Gozu	May 8th, 2008 08:24:02 PM
Big studios make movies that appeal to the widest possible audience, not whiny nerds who anonymously threaten to cut Michael Bay's dick off and feed it to Uwe Boll while shitting on Paul W.S. Anderson's chest. Did that improve the level of discourse for you? You're welcome. They don't care about what we think because we're a fairly small (yet vocal) percentage of their target audience that has been maligned and ridiculed in popular media since, well, message boards have been in existence. So don't worry your pretty little head about the power of the talkbacker. You can say whatever you want because no one is listening.
Get to the theater early and avoid beans by SoylentMean	May 8th, 2008 08:24:17 PM
I know beans are good but they produce flatulence. Otherwise known as farts. Do not fart during my Indy 4 viewing experience!!!!!!!!
I think Gozu said something, maybe not by SoylentMean	May 8th, 2008 08:25:18 PM
I wasn't listening.
And Parents... by solobear	May 8th, 2008 08:26:35 PM
PLEEEEEZE-keep the babies out of the first days screenings! Some folks get mad at the crying babies, but it's the inconsiderate parents that should be the true target of your ire.
Ok I've been lurking, I'm back... by Ivan Balboa	May 8th, 2008 08:31:52 PM
First off - Danny G(the original) you are just beautiful man, you never fail to entertain. Gotham_Knight - Why so serious, no seriously, what's up? You ok? Alright I think we all feel better..now of course without further ado...ring the bell and come out punching!
INDIANA JONES EPISODE 1 by deliciouscowbell	May 8th, 2008 08:32:06 PM

GOZU by solobear	May 8th, 2008 08:32:10 PM
Gozu sounds whipped and defeated. Gozu is a true master of the art of futility.
No, get mad at the babies, or they'll never learn by SoylentMean	May 8th, 2008 08:32:10 PM
"I don't care if your world is monochromatic you will shut the fuck up! Do I smell a doody? Did you doody in your widdle biddy dipey-wipey?" And then the new patented SoylentMean baby launcher shoots the screaming cherub through the roof where it lands in a basket made out of cotton candy.
Then the parents get dropped into a pirahna pit by SoylentMean	May 8th, 2008 08:33:55 PM
and those bitches are hungry... That's right, let's see a resurgence in movie related orphans nationwide!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What a thought... by solobear	May 8th, 2008 08:35:29 PM
Yeah, imagine growing up knowing your parents were killed because they brought you to a movie and you cried because you had a movement...
If you've got a baby... by solobear	May 8th, 2008 08:36:28 PM
SHIT HAPPENS! Figure that one out.
Babies will stay at home and make me a sandwich by SoylentMean	May 8th, 2008 08:36:44 PM
That's right, I want a fuckin' Reuben!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just say no to patricide and matricide by SoylentMean	May 8th, 2008 08:37:53 PM
If you don't have 'em they can't kill you!
WHAT?!?!?? by solobear	May 8th, 2008 08:38:06 PM
Boy, has this talkback taken a left turn!
If Indy had used a condom by SoylentMean	May 8th, 2008 08:41:35 PM
there would be no le beef! Why didn't you wrap it up Indy?
Not Lucas SPIELBERG by Megamonki	May 8th, 2008 08:41:38 PM
directed this movie lucas only had in a 1/3 say in the story not the screenplay
INDY...a few more minutes closer by solobear	May 8th, 2008 08:41:46 PM
Okay...it's 8:41 p.m. I'm a little closer to another spellbinding Spielbergian adventure. Ain't life grand!!!
Look for the Millenium Falcon in Indy 4 by SoylentMean	May 8th, 2008 08:42:43 PM
It's right next to the Jar Jar pelt.
Even if Indy 4 does look fake, I bet it'll be fun by SoylentMean	May 8th, 2008 08:46:43 PM
I thought the FX (while fakey) in all the Star Wars movies were fun, even the prequels. The prequels just lacked that whole acting skill aesthetic. Indy has charisma, which in Hollywood is the Holy Grail, Ark of the Covenant, and Vishnu's Fruity Pebbles, all in one hard to find package. That's an effect no computer can duplicate.
Anybody who ranks TOD 2nd is an asshole. by Piltdown Joey	May 8th, 2008 08:47:03 PM

What about rating TOD 1st? by SoylentMean	May 8th, 2008 08:47:55 PM

"the one major death" by igotbigballs	May 8th, 2008 08:54:37 PM
FUCK YOU ya cocksucker, you never should have said that. Consider everyone else before spoling some shit like that. Sure you don't mention a name (I did quit reading at that point) but still, you are a prick.
Total Plant!!! by kdoc13	May 8th, 2008 08:57:21 PM
Here's how I know, first, he thought temple of Doom was better than Last Crusade? Oh hell no! And second, he thinks Shia can act. No sir, that tells me that this guy is a plant. Because no one thinks Shia can act.
FUCK HATERS THIS WILL RULE. WHO CARES ABOUT A BAD REVIEW? by Proman1984	May 8th, 2008 09:10:23 PM

yeah right... by BBSloth	May 8th, 2008 09:20:56 PM
How can we take seriously someone that thinks the Temple of Doom is better than Last Crusade? ToD will always be the worst Indy film, I just hope this new one is better than that.
Crusade the worst!?!?!? by The Old New	May 8th, 2008 09:23:57 PM
Can't take this fellow serious.
Darabont and Indy IV by bustausa	May 8th, 2008 09:35:38 PM
I checked google and whatnot. Does anyone know if Darabont's script is floating around out there somewhere?
Merriman - you worthless cunt by Laserbrain	May 8th, 2008 09:42:57 PM
If reveling in the disappointments of others is, to you, better than sex; if seeing the passions of a few harmless film geeks' trampled upon and invalidated is your idea of a good time; if that's what constitutes a great day for you then you truly are an emotionally stunted piece of social waste and someone to be pitied. That you have been at this behaviour for almost ten years now makes the tragedy even more poignant. A few years from now when you elect suicide in lieu of what you now call a life I sincerely hope you you will honor us all by posting the note here at AICN. Godspeed, you magnificent asshole.
Marion's got to be the death by performingmonkey	May 8th, 2008 09:45:39 PM
Shia won't die because...well, it's SHIA! they don't want to upset people!! It was probably in his contract that he has to live and be the hero. Indy won't die because Indy dying in an Indy movie would be really pathetic. If they want to continue the franchise kill Indy offscreen as an old man. ONscreen Indy should always prevail! These leaves Marion. No-one would mention Cate Blanchett or Ray Winstone's characters as 'major deaths' or John Hurt. It's Marion IMO definitely it can be no-one else.
Temple of Doom is the worst of the bunch by The Old New	May 8th, 2008 09:49:36 PM
Between Raiders and Crusade is a tie. I bet Alien Skull will be on par with ToD, or even worse.
Oops, got my TB's mixed up. by Laserbrain	May 8th, 2008 09:50:44 PM
Doesn't matter. Merriman will be skulking around here soon enough.
I didn't read any of these Indy reviews... by Bobo_Vision	May 8th, 2008 10:00:21 PM
...or talkbacks. I prefer to make up my mind for myself, and after waiting so long for this, I'd like to get as much enjoyment as possible without watching the film through the lens of the reviewers. But when will Harry post his orgasmic love letter to this movie as he does to all movies that he's decided to love before he's even seen them.
Indy doesn't die - the franchise does. by joeelliott	May 8th, 2008 10:19:15 PM
Indy can't die because in the Young Indy show he's an old man.
PLANT! by Spazatronic 2000	May 8th, 2008 10:47:15 PM

How does Temple of Doom even make it on your list??? by Flip63Hole	May 8th, 2008 10:47:21 PM
There's only two Indy movies in my book...
THERE IS NO "MAJOR" DEATH by El Borak	May 8th, 2008 10:54:59 PM
that was a mis-statement. it's a side character. don't worry.
I know which character dies by Ye Not Guilty	May 8th, 2008 10:55:54 PM
Click here to find out: http://tinyurl.com/3cmfdy
why the hate for last crusade? by bacci40	May 8th, 2008 11:01:07 PM
and love for temple...temple made me wann puke...crusade made me wanna hug my dad
ORIONSANGELS by timmer33	May 8th, 2008 11:08:45 PM
The truck chase in Raiders is good, but has its shares of flaws. Let's face it, you can see the ditch that Indy is dragged in under the truck. The f/x where the car flies over the cliff doesn't work anymore. The ability to throw a 200 pound man through the windshield with one hand behind his head (while he's sitting) doesn't just border on cartoonish --- it is cartoonish. Don't get me wrong, I love the film. It's just that I watched it recently, and that sequence just didn't stand the test of time for me. The best chase sequence in movies though, for me at least, imho, is the final chase from THE ROAD WARRIOR. No f/x to feel dated there. It was all created with stunts. Watch it again, you'll be amazed.
Glad I am not obsessed with Indy by antonphd	May 8th, 2008 11:20:41 PM
I'm going to have a total blast with this movie while the people who are obsessed will be dissapointed... sad how not being obsessed means I'll be the happier viewer.
Well... by Jack Colby	May 8th, 2008 11:46:48 PM
I'm glad to see the reviewer didn't like Lost World and thinks this is better than it. I was kinda' worried, since that was Spilberg's last big "adventure" movie, and it's full of problems.
JONESY ON THE JUKEBOX! "INDY, I LOVE YOU!" by Uncapie	May 9th, 2008 12:06:38 AM
"Indy 103.1 FM, that is!""No time for love, Dr. Jones!"
anyone who ranks Crusade second is a cocksucking piece of shit by Prossor	May 9th, 2008 12:27:13 AM
SHITSTAIN
Had the prequels been great by slappy jones	May 9th, 2008 12:32:21 AM
there would not be this worry or skepticism but we were burnt once so it is really no surprise people are nervous about the quality of this film. I can't wait to see it but I personally feel the prequels are three of the worst movies ever made so I am a little worried. And I am not being over the top or trying to "troll". I FUCKING love star wars but the prequels are awful. to me they don't exist.
Prossor - Fuck you. Crusade IS better than TOD by Lamerz	May 9th, 2008 01:07:42 AM
That is a motherfucking fact
Raiders of the Lost Ark IS a perfect piece of cinema by Lamerz	May 9th, 2008 01:08:37 AM
End of discussion.
I´m Spielberg´s bitch by CuervoJones	May 9th, 2008 01:20:38 AM
Give me the movie.
Do you remember Sophie Hapgood by CuervoJones	May 9th, 2008 01:29:09 AM
That redhead psychic was a great Indy girl.
Indy does not die by CuervoJones	May 9th, 2008 01:36:27 AM
Don´t you remember the old Indiana Jones in the TV series?
This review makes me want to download it. by instruction	May 9th, 2008 01:44:31 AM
Because I think he's full of shit. The other two thursday morning make me want to see it, because I believe them and hope they're wrong.
Lucas is forcing things by Jed Black	May 9th, 2008 01:54:13 AM
I read an interview in which he states that he had this idea, "the macguffin", immediately after Last Crusade. Spielberg and Ford thought it was lame then and said "what else ya' got George?" Lucas responded "It's this or it's nothing!" 20 years go by and nostalgia trumps better judgment and the result is a ridiculous, obscure "MacGuffin" (I hate that term) that requires a lot of explaining and time spent to involve the audience. Lucas seemed completely oblivious and referred to the Holy Grail as underwhelming and anti-climatic. Now, maybe it's just me, but if someone says "Nazi's want THE cup that held Christ's blood!" I say "Oh, FUCK NO!" I'm on board just like that. I know almost everything I need to know with just that much information. Someone says "Russians want a crystal skull." I say "Good for them, the carnival comes to town next week." A minimum two hour conversation is required before I can muster enough enthusiasm to raise my eyebrow. Storytelling 101. You know Lucas went a little Howard Hughes when his movie lost to Annie Hall. Plus, Coppola lost his marbles too, so it must've seemed cool to lil' Georgie.
What IS interesting about this particular review is... by alucardvsdracula	May 9th, 2008 02:09:00 AM
He's the only one who mentioned the Ant sequence and that a major character dies! Makes me wonder about the previous reviews actually.
Ms DuPont, I presume? by Ommadawn1959	May 9th, 2008 02:28:26 AM
Your elegant, yet quirky prose and love of Temple o' Doom betray you, Alexandra DuPont.
High Hopes by bod33	May 9th, 2008 03:04:20 AM
I may be mad, but i still have high hopes for this movie. Please be good, please be good.
Now this is what im talking bout..... by UKfilmfan	May 9th, 2008 03:07:03 AM
we all know it wont be raiders....but damn this is a good well rounded review Thanks!ShogunMaster NIL BEFORE ZOD!
Damn You Michael Bay by MCMLXXVI	May 9th, 2008 03:26:46 AM
Damn You Michael Bay
George Lucas Sucks Balls by Harry Bolzonnia	May 9th, 2008 03:39:46 AM
Nuf Said
Ugh!!! by Literarywanderer	May 9th, 2008 03:55:09 AM
What happened to Indy dealing with his age? I thought this was supposed to be about an Indy in the twilight of his life. Sounds to me like they're doing what I feared: pretending Harrison is still in his thirties and ignoring the fact that he looks older than Connery in Last Crusade. God Lucas, why the fuck can't you face reality?!?!? Darabont, now I understand you're pain.
ranking the movies... by digginjim	May 9th, 2008 04:26:44 AM
of course is a matter of taste, but Raiders is a flat out classic. I was always surprised that the sequels were so different in tone to the original which has a sort of casablanca gritty, pulp feel about it. yep, the characters are much more rounded and the script is sharper than the other movies. But then again I think it would have been a mistake to try a retread raiders in the sequels - LC tried that and we got some kooky semi spoof with 'comedy marcus' and 'comedy sallah'... Connery just saved it from being damn near unbearable. Its certainly the film i revisit the least. I love ToD - took me a few years to see it, but its basically a cartoon - all deep reds and crazy loud Williams score. All the movies have problems with vfx, strangely Raiders the least of all, despite it having the lowest budget. KotCS has the highest budget and will probably look the most cheesy - law of diminishing returns. But hell, its Indy - cool.
the most encouraging thing... by digginjim	May 9th, 2008 04:37:19 AM
...I've read about this movie is that it starts of a bit like Crusade and then turns Raiders when they get to the jungle (some of the new screen shots at theraider.net certainly suggest this). That'll do me.
Ant Sequence by Munro Kelly	May 9th, 2008 04:39:31 AM
I wondered what the "creep factor" scene would be.
Can anyone explain by kwisatzhaderach	May 9th, 2008 04:58:20 AM
why they think Last Crusade is a better film than Temple of Doom? I'd be really interested in hearing what people have to say, beyond the usual trite "OMG Capshaw was shit" comments (conveniently forgetting that Alison Doody's performance in Crusade was appalling).
Temple Of Doom by mystic_dreamer	May 9th, 2008 05:10:08 AM
Definitely my favourite after Raiders. There is some very poor acting in Last Crusade, particularly from Alison Doody and Julian Glover. The green screen stuff in the plane is risible to say the least. Nah, Temple for me.
Childhood raping... by sapno_krei	May 9th, 2008 05:17:48 AM
For me, the fear that the franchise could be ruined by this movie -- or any Indy movie -- just isn't there, because Indy's adventures are pretty much standalone and watchable in any order. Like the James Bond series, you can watch the ones you like and skip the ones you don't, and not be any worse for wear. This is in sharp contrast to the STAR WARS movies, which are one large story. I watch STAR WARS this way -- IV, V, III, VI, and that works well for me, but I can't shake the knowledge that I and II were letdowns and I'm skipping a chunk of the story on purpose.
The Dubliner by Lost Jarv	May 9th, 2008 05:20:03 AM
Never, ever post an opinion on anything again. Never buy a cinema ticket. And for the love of god, please never breed.
So the UFO / Alien stuff from Darrabonts script remains by HarryBlackPotter	May 9th, 2008 05:51:15 AM
That's good, I hope. I've heard though that we only get a glimpse of a UFO right at the end; right after the Loch Ness monster turns up with Hoffa and Big Foot.
Oh, that's just my pet Wookie Chewie. by Dr Gregory House	May 9th, 2008 05:55:47 AM
I hate Wookies, Jock! I hate 'em!
Indy 3 last?!! by 1st and only	May 9th, 2008 06:04:22 AM
Indy 3 was awesome! The rapport between Ford and Connery was mesmerising. Where as Doom felt over the top and relied too much with filming on sets. It just didn't feel real to me, very cartoonish. One of the most irritating lead women in history too(Speilberg's wife?). If this guy is putting Crusade last then I don't trust his opinion at all...
Raiders IS fucking perfect... by reni	May 9th, 2008 06:08:55 AM
... and the dialogue isn't dopey, mate.
That'll do for me! by FILMFUNK	May 9th, 2008 06:19:02 AM
if it's as good as the sequels that's cool I love all the Indy films like I love all the original Starwars Trilogy even Jedi but wait a second!... I don't really like the Prequels so maybee this will... Argh!
he ranked TOD #2? by surfsup22	May 9th, 2008 07:02:16 AM
That movie sucked.
I understand... by tomdolan04	May 9th, 2008 07:05:50 AM
the criticism of Crusades slapstick moments but I saw it the other week and Connery's 'Let It Go' line is just perfect. A bit older and wiser than when I first saw it as an action happy 8 year old the significance of 'letting go' things that may ultimately lead to your downfall. I prefer the movie as a whole to Temple, but it admitedly pales to Raiders. Regardless of the quality of this movie I wish they'd left it as a trilogy, as riding into the sunset was a perfect finale.
Fuck the haters by Rickey Henderson	May 9th, 2008 07:16:40 AM
AICN has no problem slobbering all over the candycane colored cockmeat sandwhich that is "Speed Racer" but they can't show a little love for one of the greatest franchises of all time? Rickey calls bullshit. Get me a review from AN ACTUAL Indiana Jones fan, then we'll talk. Enough with the ADD riddled geekdom love for stupid cartoon franchises already. This is goddamned Indiana Jones we're talking about people, you dig?
You have a point Rickey. by rbatty024	May 9th, 2008 07:35:29 AM
Speed Racer is getting trashed by the critics but they have no problem sticking up for it, but when a couple of bad reviews come in for Indy 4 they throw it under the bus. You would think they would at least take a wait and see attitude.
Great Ceasar's Ghost by Hawaiian Organ Donor	May 9th, 2008 07:35:32 AM
It's only 8:30 in the AM and this TB has already exploded. I don't think I can take going through this a third time. I think it's safe to say we're all going to see this in the theater and I'm guessing most of us will probably enjoy it. And the people that hate Shia would drag their sack across a desert of broken glass and swim an ocean of lime juice just to be him. Love him or hate him, he really is living the dream.
mystic dreamer by Abominable Snowcone	May 9th, 2008 07:37:20 AM
I agree with your points. Plus, Crusade felt like a retread of Raiders. You get sequences at the university, in the desert. A fire (not in Marion's pub, but at the castle). And yeah, the green screen with the blimp and the plane sucked. The best parts of Crusade were the opening exploit (young Indy / cross of Coronado) and Venice. Temple was completely different because Indy is thrust into the action and it's darker.
OK, so even if we're to believe by Abominable Snowcone	May 9th, 2008 07:38:56 AM
that Indy 4 is not the best, at least it's no Jaws the Revenge or Superman IV Quest for Piss.
It is surprising that there has been a by Lost Jarv	May 9th, 2008 07:40:24 AM
mass explosion of ejaculate over some bullshit cartoon, but not Indy. Is it better to only love more obscure geek subjects?
Should have set it in space by Lost Jarv	May 9th, 2008 07:41:49 AM
Seriously, the golden rule for successful part 4 of a franchise is ALWAYS SET IT IN SPACE. Leprechaun 4 and Critters 4 are prime examples. As is A New Hope (Star Wars IV), and Alien Resurrection (Only joking).
Abom by Lost Jarv	May 9th, 2008 07:42:33 AM
stop it with that retread shit, you'll send diggers into explosions of joy
thank you, rbatty024! by Rickey Henderson	May 9th, 2008 07:44:04 AM
Not all of us are on board with irritating children's racing movies. The reviewers of Speed Racer may love candycane colored cocksuckery, but Rickey does not. Here's a dynamite idea: how about giving this Indy fellow a shot? He's kind of a mensch...
It's just strange that they're so ready to condemn a film... by rbatty024	May 9th, 2008 07:45:33 AM
they haven't seen. Back when the early reviews of Speed Racer were coming in, and they were mixed at best, they took a more objective attitude. But now that the same thing is happening for Indy 4 they sit there with their arms crossed claiming, "I knew this was gonna suck from the start." I don't know what the difference between the two situations are.
better than temple of doom by palewook	May 9th, 2008 07:47:22 AM
is what this reviewer appears to say. which doesn't exactly mean its solid. more for anyone who is absolutely jonesing for the next Dr. Jones movie.
The love for Speed Racer over Indy is nauseating by Rickey Henderson	May 9th, 2008 07:56:00 AM
They ain't even in the same freaking league. Indy is an iconic character. An archetypal figure. When I was growing up, there was a big pit in the woods near my house with a vine hanging over it. (For an eight year old, the pit seemed big at the time, but in reality it was probably only 5 feet across. Anyway, I'd go out there, grab on to the vine and swing across that pit while humming the theme to Indiana Jones. I could spent an entire afternoon doing this. My point is that Indy taps into something classic and all american that some cheap, shitty, Japanese imported movie never ever possibly could. And if my kid ever started showing love for this ADD riddled neon tinged Wachowski nonsense, then I'd have no choice to tie 'em to a radiator and beat them with a sack of valencia oranges.
Jarv by Abominable Snowcone	May 9th, 2008 08:01:57 AM
Sorry...didn't mean to stir up the miscreants! I'm reading all this stuff about a "lost crystal skull." I'm kind of disappointed. I thought in this one Indy would be looking for his car keys and theatre ticket. Sigh...
CATCH ME IF YOU CAN and MUNICH by Mr Gorilla	May 9th, 2008 08:09:56 AM
were brilliant films.
Foolish fanboy mortals by Rocco Curioso	May 9th, 2008 08:17:31 AM
I told you this would be weak, but apparently you're content to sit in that field all night and wait for the Great Pumpkin to arrive. Lucas doesn't like you. Spielberg doesn't like you. They like your money..... A LOT. Mebbe hey used to be innovators, dreamweavers, call 'em whatever salutation seems appropriate. But I'm guessing those first few hundred million $ throws that to the wind. So, by all means, go waste your money on May 22nd (count me out). If yet another reach-around from Uncle George is what gets you off, you probably won't be disappointed.
Yes, Rocco Curioso, you warned us... by Rickey Henderson	May 9th, 2008 08:23:00 AM
And alas we took no heed to your prophetic fanboy warnings of "I tells ya, this is gonna suck!" And we are so much the poorer for having not heeded your advice. You miserable, joyless fuck. Enjoy your Speed Racer kiddo.
Rocco, if everyone on these boards listened... by rbatty024	May 9th, 2008 08:53:57 AM
to those who said this or that movie is going to suck, and refused to see the film, then we would have nothing to talk about because no one would be watching any movies. If this site was around in the seventies people would go on and on about how crappy Chinatown looks or that The Godfather is going to be the end for Coppola. Also, no offense, but I trust my opinion more than yours, so I'll be seeing this movie on opening day.
junior let it go by LarryTheCableGuy	May 9th, 2008 09:12:52 AM
crusade kicked ass doom kicked ass movies are flawed so are your stupid asses get over it
Also, the venom towards Lucas is just silly by Rickey Henderson	May 9th, 2008 09:23:01 AM
His foot print on the Indy series is minimal at best. Rickey's sorry that you're unhappy that the Star Wars prequels were little more thas a three part trade and some hollow empty special effects. But this is Indiana Jones, something entirely different. And despite what you think these are Spielberg's films, not Lucas' and they rock as a result.
THE LAST CRUSADE is my favourite by unionJACKass.webs.com	May 9th, 2008 09:42:26 AM
Indy and Bond in a film together - Magic.
And... by unionJACKass.webs.com	May 9th, 2008 09:43:15 AM
... The River Phoenix as the young Indy is cool too.
Temple of Doom made us go look for Indy hats by johnnyg korrupt	May 9th, 2008 09:48:01 AM
Me and my brother saw it when it came out. Loved the darker tone to it. I mean what kid doesn't like scary things? We made our mom take us out looking for the hat like Indy wears. Considering this was 80s Australia - we must looked like little idiots. Last Crusade came out - and bored us shitless. STory was boring, Connery put us to sleep. And it tried to be a laugh-a-thon slapfest. Wish it would go for a darker tone again.
The best parts of RAIDERS were unscripted... by sapno_krei	May 9th, 2008 09:52:11 AM
The swordsman showdown was improvised because Ford was ill, and the truck chase was filmed by a second unit director, with the uner-the-truck stunt having been suggested by a stunt coordinator. not to to take away from Lucas and Spielberg, but some of their best stuff has been accidental or off-the-cuff. Have the Indy sequels been made without room for such serendipity? Not entirely. The big fights in the mine in TOD were filmed around the fact that Ford was injured and resting back in the States. And those scenes turned out pretty well. The fact that Indy's face isn't seen in many shots seems like an artistic choice, rather than a necessity.
BIG BIG BIG SPOILER: by misnomer	May 9th, 2008 09:52:58 AM
Marion isnt the death....its Mac. END SPOILERS
sapno by Abominable Snowcone	May 9th, 2008 09:56:33 AM
I believe Vic Armstrong was the stunt director who suggested the under-the-truck bit. In fact, I think Vic played one of the last Nazi guys to climb out the back to fight Indy in the cab.
In Soviet Russia, Cate Blanchetts You! by Rickey Henderson	May 9th, 2008 09:56:36 AM
(sorry, but it had to be said)
CGI Pat Roach by Abominable Snowcone	May 9th, 2008 09:58:21 AM
Is it true that the late Pat Roach (who played oversized bad guys in the first three movies) was added-in CGI as "Ivan Shonovsky" for the warehouse fight? A cool tribute. I'm just kidding. Would be cool though.
Still can't get excited for this by Franklin T Marmoset	May 9th, 2008 09:59:48 AM
My fingers are crossed this will be a good one, but somewhere inside my lizard brain is a neuron that is saying: "No, Frank! Let's wait and see. Okay, so this review is a little better than that one from yesterday, but don't you remember The Phantom Menace? Do you really want that to happen again? Caution is the watchword, my man. We will see it on opening day and hope to be pleasantly surprised! Also, don't forget to buy milk on the way home. And Leprechaun In Space rules!" So, those bastards have my money already, but I think I'm keeping my expectations as low as possible.
Is it true by Abominable Snowcone	May 9th, 2008 10:02:03 AM
that Ellen Brody crashes the boat into the shark, and the shark "howls" as it gushes blood? What crap.
Frankie... by just pillow talk	May 9th, 2008 10:05:20 AM
If you can enjoy the FF movies, I'm sure you can enjoy the latest installment of Indy, guilt-free!
Crusade > TOD by Pandas-R-Us	May 9th, 2008 10:09:19 AM
Someone asked why some people think TOD is the weakest of the first three films, without mentioning the Capshaw element. To me, she had nothing to do with it being not quite as good as Crusade. Even though the Raiders had strong fantasy elements, I still somehow find it fairly believable and gritty in places, or at least, I'm able to suspend my disbelief. It almost seems to take place in the real world, the places, costumes and customs seem to have been at least passingly researched. With Crusade it's a lot harder to suppress you disbelief, but just about possible. With TOD I just can't. it just seems like it's been written by someone who has no idea what is outside the USA and has no idea of physics. I just sit there thinking, "People in India don't eat monkey brains and baby snakes", "Those are fruit bats, giant vampire bats don't exist", "This all seems to be filmed either in a studio or in California", "The mining cart just couldn't make that jump", etc, etc. It just seems like a cartoon, as someone mentioned above. Don't get me wrong, it's lots of fun, but just seems too "unrealistic" compared to the others. I appreciate how ridiculous it is to complain about a lack of realism in the Indy films, but TOD just seems more like the Goonies than an Indy flick. Good fun, but childish nonsense at the same time.
Everyone should enjoy Fantastic Four! by Franklin T Marmoset	May 9th, 2008 10:10:22 AM
They are misunderstood modern masterpieces and sure to be re-evaluated in years to come, jpt. Mark my words! Still, I would very much like to enjoy this new Indy adventure for being, well, an enjoyable adventure, and not for being a ludicrous clusterfuck. You know I love the ludicrous clusterfucks, but I believe Dr Jones deserves better.
So are there farting robot Ewoks and a dance off or what? by skycrapper	May 9th, 2008 10:13:07 AM
Sorry Talk Back carry over...
Oh, I agree, Indy shouldn't be a ludicrous clusterfuck by just pillow talk	May 9th, 2008 10:13:27 AM
And I don't think it will be, but only time will tell... I give ya shit all the time on FF, but I confess I enjoy the Daredevil extended version, and I know I am in the extreme minority in that one!
Indiana Jones & The Collected Works Of The Pixies by Franklin T Marmoset	May 9th, 2008 10:14:48 AM
All this arguing over which is the best/worst Indiana Jones film hurts my brain, much as it does when I am asked which is my favourite Pixies album. I can't separate them! If pushed, though, I'd have to say I like The Last Crusade the least, mostly due to the silliness and self-referencing that started to creep in. Also, I can't stand Sean Connery. In conclusion, The Last Crusade is the Trompe Le Monde of Indy adventures - still better than most film, but not up there with what came before in the series.
here's what I hope for Frankie... by just pillow talk	May 9th, 2008 10:17:17 AM
That this fourth installment makes me actually think hard as to the order in which to put in against all the previous ones. If it does that, I think it's succeeded in making another worthy Indy film.
Daredevil question for JPT by Franklin T Marmoset	May 9th, 2008 10:19:21 AM
Is the extended version good-good or stupid-good? A couple of people have recommended it to me, but what the hell do they know? They didn't like Fantastic Four (philistines!). Tell the truth, all I remember about the original version is Jennifer Garner's midriff, which I believe is among the finest midrifs on the planet. Mmmm... what was I talking about?
ToD > Crusade...? by Rickey Henderson	May 9th, 2008 10:22:07 AM
Yeah, I could see that. I love all the Indy flicks pretty equally in their own way, but I agree that ToD does have that Goonies feel to it. My gripes with ToD are as follows: 1) Not tnough globe trotting. They go from Shanhai to India then they stay in India for the durations of the movie. For a decent Indy movie, you need that red line traversing a map of the world at least twice. 2) No Nazis. Sorry, but it ain't an Indy movie if he's not whomping on Nazis. At least they're trying to make concessions with the Soviets for the new one... we'll see if it works. 3) Not enough vehicular action. Yes, the mine cart scene was fun, but you need Indy involved in car chases, planes, tanks, etc. All that having been said, ToD is a fun 80's movie that's very much like the Goonies. It just feels out of place compared to the other two Indy flicks.
Frankie.... by just pillow talk	May 9th, 2008 10:25:35 AM
Jen's "performance" is riveting.... Sorry, what? Oh yes, it just explains how the cops end up showing up at the Kingpin's place at the end, and how Coolio divulges what he knows. If you didn't like the theaterical release one bit, I can't see you enjoyed the extended version....
Marmoset, I'm going to steal your quote. by rbatty024	May 9th, 2008 10:26:00 AM
"The Last Crusade is the Trompe Le Monde of Indy adventures." That is fucking classic. The analogy is genius. Even a lesser Indiana Jones film (whether you pick Crusade or Temple) is better than just about any other adventure film out there.
Anything featuring Jennifer Garner by Abominable Snowcone	May 9th, 2008 10:28:18 AM
in skimpy or tight clothing causes an "extended edition" in my pants.
that's why I had to watch Electra.... by just pillow talk	May 9th, 2008 10:30:28 AM
Sometimes one has to take one for the team...
Maybe I'll give it a go, jpt by Franklin T Marmoset	May 9th, 2008 10:34:09 AM
We haven't done the transatlantic DVD exchange in a while, so why not give a chance to Daredevil. I do like Jennifer Garner, so it won't be a complete waste of time. Mind you, I sat through 13 Going On 30 the other day (it was a very boring Sunday afternoon), and I did not enjoy it even a little bit. For rbatty024 - I agree completely. They're all good things. The BBC has been on the ball recently and has shown all three, and I was suprised by how well they all held up. Let's hope this new one doesn't let the side down.
Frankie, I caught the end of that movie... by just pillow talk	May 9th, 2008 10:36:46 AM
I have to say that I'm quite glad I did not see what came before the ending....
Aaaah, Elektra by Franklin T Marmoset	May 9th, 2008 10:37:19 AM
Jesus, that was fucking awful, and not even in a funny retarded way. Just an old-fashioned, vanilla flavoured turd. But still, that outfit... She does look damn fine in that outfit. I don't know how many crunches she does each morning, but every one of them is worth it.
TOD = PoS by palewook	May 9th, 2008 10:38:09 AM
just watch the 1st few minutes. if a raft-chute onto a mountain doesn't make you zone out...
yep, even a lesser Indy movie is brilliant by Rickey Henderson	May 9th, 2008 10:40:20 AM
Rickey doesn't dig Temple of Doom as much as the other movies, but that scene where Indy is fighting with the slavemaster on the conveyor belt and his head is about to get crushed never ceases to cause Rickey to get hold his breath. That shot is tense--modern movie action sequences don't convey that sort of suspense. Or maybe you're not a huge Crusade fan, but you can't argue that the theme John Williams created for the Jones Boys is just pure awesomeness.
a good assessment of it Frankie... by just pillow talk	May 9th, 2008 10:40:56 AM
A complete missed opportunity to make a good turd. It should have been written in her contract for every movie she does that the midriff must be shown 83.6% of the time.
Rickey... by just pillow talk	May 9th, 2008 10:42:37 AM
As someone who enjoys all three Indy movies, I agree with what you said about each one. Sorry palewook, you are completely and utterly wrong! :-)
Elektra as a movie was poor by Abominable Snowcone	May 9th, 2008 10:45:16 AM
as Jennifer Garner in tight red leather, I was okay with it. The movie even had four villains with "elemental powers," like the dudes in "Ghost Rider." Note to Marvel Studios: cut that out
3d best in the series?? LOL! This gets better and better! by Merriman Lyon	May 9th, 2008 10:51:46 AM
What, as in: it's NOT AS GOOD as one of those MEDIOCRE sequels spawned by the excellent Radiers? LOL! What ki

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