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Still..
by Sailor Rip
May 8th, 2008
07:46:44 AM
...I have hopes
hmmm I disagree
by misnomer
May 8th, 2008
07:48:21 AM
I havent seen the movie, but I disagree anyway. Any Indy is good Indy.

by the way
May 8th, 2008
07:49:06 AM
yeah, I knew it. Spielberg should've spent his time pulling Spike Jonze from development hell.
WOW
by YackBacker
May 8th, 2008
07:50:36 AM
That sucks
Had a sneaking suspicion this thing wasn't good
by YackBacker
May 8th, 2008
07:52:52 AM
If this reviewer is objective, this will really be a sad day for geekdom yet again, thanks to GL. How many times were we told "you're gonna get another Indiana Jones movie." And after all of that, if they fuck this up, well, these guys will have shit upon another ebloved film series.
Shogun Masters...
by digginjim
May 8th, 2008
07:53:54 AM
.. review differs somewhat from the comments made by theamazingpoet in the soundtrack thread... hey AICN, why publish one review and not the other, do you WANT this movie to be bad?
Yikes, One bad apple...
by fishface
May 8th, 2008
07:54:39 AM
Let's see if ShogunMaster just has a cob up his ass or what. I'll wait for general concensus before convicting Spielberg.
Merrick - why do you bother?
by Samson_K
May 8th, 2008
07:55:00 AM
You are as bad as a lot of the drones that bitch and whine on here

So, someone doesn't like the new film - you are allowed to wait until you see it before declaring that the film is in fact awful!

And as for the headline - the Indy film I've been dreading stars everyone that was ever in an Indy film going on a happy quest together and finding the meaning of true friendship a la Lethal Weapn 4. There's Nazi's in it and there is a scene where Marion and Willie both give birth at the same time and Marcus Brody's ghost appears and tells Indy that he can be dad to both kids.

Oh, and Danny Glover is in it!
NOOOOOOO!
by tile_mcgillus
May 8th, 2008
07:55:19 AM
Oh my god. That sounds absolutely fucking terrible. I feel sick to my goddamn stomach after reading this. I had hopes for a decent Indy adventure but instead it sounds like everything we worried about came true.

SNAKE AS A ROPE! SERIOUSLY!?!?! George Lucas...I quit.


by misnomer
May 8th, 2008
07:55:31 AM
Die Hard 4 and AvP were bad enough. I simply refuse to accept that a bad Indiana Jones movie could ever be made by the beards. At the very worst we'd get something close to Temple Of Doom, and I'd be happy with that. This guy sounds like he had bones to pick before he watched the movie.
Maybe.....
by Dude_gimme_tabs
May 8th, 2008
07:56:18 AM
Maybe, as with Star Wars and some other re-visits to old favourites, it is simply a case that WE have moved on, not the films ?
Second, third or fourth
by Rodolfo
May 8th, 2008
07:57:02 AM
I still have may hopes.
*sniff*
by BanAllFIRSTPosters
May 8th, 2008
07:57:14 AM
I wish I hadn't read this one.
Nope, eleven
by Rodolfo
May 8th, 2008
07:57:41 AM
I don't mind slow
by TheBigDogg
May 8th, 2008
07:58:01 AM
I mean, I would hope it wouldn't be some Too Fast Too Furious thing to keep up with the times. But... the description does sound pants. Hoping for better when I see it myself.
Since I've had a different reaction to the trailers...
by just pillow talk
May 8th, 2008
07:59:03 AM
I'm not worried....yet. Just like I'm not going to rush judgment on the movie based upon just the trailers, I'm not going to based upon this single review.

Granted, I'm automatically giving this more leeway than some other movie since it is Indy.

AHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA
by _SnakePlissken_
May 8th, 2008
07:59:18 AM
Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the shit movie
Doesn't sound too promising
by Franklin T Marmoset
May 8th, 2008
07:59:19 AM
The mugging part is what I've been worried about since Spielberg said this new one was closest in tone to The Last Crusade - my least favourite of the original three. What is it about film series' that the creative types always feel the need to make things sillier with each new film? I really, really don't want to watch an over-the-hill Harrison Ford acting like an ass and making self-conscious jokes about his age. Fuck post-modernism, just make an entertaining new Indy adventure.

Still, maybe this guy is being a little harsh. No doubt, a bunch more reviews are on the way.


by misnomer
May 8th, 2008
07:59:20 AM
...the snake as a rope scene sounds hilarious. Can't wait to see the Prairie Dog scene either. "Prairie Dogs...why'd it have to be prairie dogs?" (think I'm joking? just wait.) What DOES surprise me (the real reason for this post) is that Shogun Master failed to mention the scene where Indy climbs in a fridge which is sent hurtling through the air by a nuclear blast. SURELY give n the nature of the review this would have been mentioned for being ridiculous? Never in any peril???? When I come to think of it, I'm starting to doubt the integrity of this review a bit.
Didn't read
by Maxer
May 8th, 2008
07:59:51 AM
I'm going to this movie at midnight whether it's good or not.. I want my Indy!
Indy pack in action?
by Samson_K
May 8th, 2008
08:00:02 AM
What kind of film were you expecting?
Saw that coming
by Rat Fink
May 8th, 2008
08:00:15 AM
This movie is 10 years too late
is anyone suprised?
by Reelheed
May 8th, 2008
08:00:19 AM
Over the years Steven and George have developed a horrible patronizing tone towards family films and so it was always a worry that the new Indy would be very soft compared to the first. Shame though. D'yknow Jaws was a PG certificate in the uk originally. What went wrong guys?
Hollywood Homicide
by Samuel Fulmer
May 8th, 2008
08:00:40 AM
I just watched this for the first time the other day. Maybe one of the worst films I've ever seen.
This is posted by Merrick...
by Sledge Hammer
May 8th, 2008
08:00:50 AM
Therefore anything that follows has absolutely no credibility whatsoever in my dojo. Double that when it's something that lines up with "what he suspected all along". I'll wait for some legitimate reviews before I start panicking personally.
This is just one review
by Darth WickedChicken
May 8th, 2008
08:02:15 AM
I will hold judgement untill I see it for myself.
Just ignore it.
by Lost Jarv
May 8th, 2008
08:03:38 AM
He's a cock- and someoene else has already refuted it.

I had a totally different reaction at the trailer before Iron Man, so although 1 Cinema in London is not representative, perhaps Merrick is talking bollocks.

Too bad, but yeah
by kafka07
May 8th, 2008
08:04:41 AM
I'm not surprised. George Lucas sucks, and Ford and Spielberg are too over-the-hill. Oh well.
Indy is Shia LePoof's Dad!
by Pondscum
May 8th, 2008
08:04:59 AM
NO WAY! Shia's parents are Screech from Saved By The Bell and Pornstar Ron Jeremy - everyone knows that!

I predicted this film would suck and it will. My other summer blockbuster predictions - TDK will be 'all right' and Wall-E, yep, you heard me, Wall-E will be great.

That is all.

Was he being sarcastic about Allan Quartermaine...
by TroutMaskReplicant
May 8th, 2008
08:05:04 AM
Being a crappy knock off? Because that character is nearly 100 years older than Indiana Jones...
Furthermore,
by Lost Jarv
May 8th, 2008
08:05:29 AM
this is the exact review he put in the TB thread. As a general rule of thumb, if it appears in a TB it is, in fact, complete shit.
Not that one review confirms it
by RipVanMarlowe
May 8th, 2008
08:05:32 AM
but from the 1st CG-pants preview on, I've had a sneaking suspicion this would easily be the weakest in the series. Some things are better left untouched (by George Lucas).
Josh Brolin as George W. Online
by BanAllFIRSTPosters
May 8th, 2008
08:08:00 AM
http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0 ,,20198476,00.html
Re : Dude_gimme_tabs
by Real Deal
May 8th, 2008
08:11:31 AM
No. It's called lack of imagination. The thing about the Star Wars films is that you knew what was going to happen just not how. They had a built in handicap. Also because it was the first part of the story it was mostly dark. The positive stuff comes at the end. In the first trilogy you were always caught up in the characters and what was happening. You didn't know what was coming next and always rooted for victory. You got excited because you didn't know for sure what was going to happen. If you look at the trilogy the second movie " The Empire Strikes Back " it suffers slightly from the same thing in that it's unresolved by it's very nature. However in the next installment Darth Vader is revealed , the emperor dies, and Luke finally becomes a man. Oh! Han gets the girl. There's resolution. Through out you care about the characters. In the first trilogy not so much. Now I don't know abouit this film however I always wanted them to do one more film with Karen Allen as I thought she was always the best counterpart to Ford. It could be that Spielberg and Lucas have shot their wad so to speak and just don't have that creative edge that they used to in their youth. That does happen to film makers. But have we moved on? Not a chance!
Wow!
by thecheesegrommit
May 8th, 2008
08:11:59 AM
That just sounds like every other wanna be film makers review that calls these talk backs home. Shogun, your nitpicks don't even slightly sound like things that would make for a bad movie unless your not doing the severity justice. I don't know, I get the feeling some seem to pre hate this. Possibly because of the Beating we took with "Phantom Menace"
DAMNIT!!!
by Underoos Hero
May 8th, 2008
08:12:08 AM
THIS SHIT DEFINATELY REEKS OF LUCAS!! I was afraid of this. I knew deep down that those trailers for I4 were lacking any substance or weight. And yes, I'm sorry, you usually can tell how good a movie is going to be by the trailer. Two good examples are "New World" and "Sling Blade". I fell in love with the trailers immediately and both movies fucking rawked! Goddamn you Lucas!!!
Another punk who doesn't get it...
by Disgustipitated
May 8th, 2008
08:12:11 AM
I don't know what's wrong with soem of these people nowadays, but they don't get it. I read through the first paragraph or two, just enough to see if this person is being objective or if they're just a clueless punk. Sadly, the latter rings true. What I read so far sounds exactly in line with the rest of the Indy movies as well as the serials on which they are all based. Everyone seems to be so used to current formula for action/adventure films they can't remember (or aren't old enough to, much less appreciate it) when there was a time when it was more important to tell a decent story not just blow everything up. You know your hero is going to make it in the end, but you don't care because it's the journey with them that counts. I don't have a problem with conventional (these days I supposed it's referred to as old school) props and effects. Without them the film wouldn't fit with the rest of the series. Unfortunate about Abner, but I love the fact we get to see the Ark. Overall, it sounds interesting to me. My family and I will see it, period.
I do hope this is good, though
by Franklin T Marmoset
May 8th, 2008
08:13:17 AM
If only for George Lucas's sanity. If he manages to piss on the legacy of not one but both of his contributions to popular culture, I worry he may actually lose it. He may crack. He may next find himself stalking from room to room at Skywalker Ranch, a dazed expression fixed to his face, as he shoots everyone he sees.

Luckily, he will probably only be armed with a Han Solo prop gun, which does not shoot actual lasers, and no lives will be lost.

What'd you expect...
by Kid Z
May 8th, 2008
08:13:48 AM
...George "The Pouch" Lucas is involved (and yes, Spielberg and Ford are indeed "over the hill"). However Lucas deserves extra scorn. I'll NEVER forgive that fat f*** for those godawful Prequels!
I'll still go see this though
by Underoos Hero
May 8th, 2008
08:14:24 AM
:)
Who cares?
by Sithdan
May 8th, 2008
08:15:03 AM
I never adhere to what critics say. I loved X-men 3, Pirates 3, Superman Returns, Revenge of the Sith, I Am Legend, and Da Vinci Code, whereas critics gave these films mixed-to-negative reviews. I'll be in line to see Indy no matter what. If critics pan it, chances are I'll like it.
As long as it's got Spielberg and Ford, I'm there.
by Nosferatu Jones
May 8th, 2008
08:15:53 AM
With these two at the helm, I refuse to believe CRYSTAL SKULL will come anywhere near the atrociousness of George Lucas' STINO Prequels. INDY 4 looks like fun, pure and simple. Let's leave it at that.
Didn't read the review b/c of spoilers.
by beastie
May 8th, 2008
08:16:31 AM
But I almost cried when I read the headline. 'Course, I'm in the minority of geeks who actually enjoyed the Star Wars prequels.

Here's to hoping Lucas allows his animation department to do Fate of Atlantis.

Sithdan
by Underoos Hero
May 8th, 2008
08:17:13 AM
The movies you just listed sound like a top ten movie list for soccer moms. Good God Man!! WTF?!! Don't worry though, I won't scorn or call you names. :)
Allan Quartermaine
by wowsucks
May 8th, 2008
08:17:15 AM
I actually watched that crap a long time ago. New Indy movie is 50/50 for possible outcome but I have to see it suck to truly believe it. I for one have not been keeping my hopes up just in case.
ONLY PART TIME!
by Series7
May 8th, 2008
08:18:35 AM
Hopefully
by Series7
May 8th, 2008
08:19:54 AM
Indy pees on someone. I hear thats in all of the Buffs contracts now, that someone has to get peed on.
Oh No
by Fortunesfool
May 8th, 2008
08:20:56 AM
It's not a 'parkinsons' cam, spastic edited nightmare with an emo score. Well, it must be shit!!

For 'slow', read: Well made film.

Needs more "tension"
by Samuel Fulmer
May 8th, 2008
08:21:15 AM
and cowbell!
Disgustipitated, agreed
by Mr Slippy Fist
May 8th, 2008
08:21:22 AM
When the hell did anyone EVER think Indy was going to die? One of the most ridiculous scenes in cinematic history came from "Last Crusade" where Indy and his father are riding the motorcycle and that plane in flames shoots right by them in the tunnel and they each give each other a stupid look. But that part was still FANTASTICALLY done and memorable. Shogun Dope doesn't get the franchise at all. Also, Allan Quatermain was from H. Rider Haggard's book King Solomon's Mines written in 1885. Look it up Shogun Dope. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A llan_Quatermain The review was shit and I cannot wait for this movie.
Can we have an anti Shia Petition?
by Underoos Hero
May 8th, 2008
08:21:36 AM
I mean damn. The kid can't act, he's not funny, and he is probably one of the most annoying people to look at on screen other than that fag David Shwimmer (I think his name is). Fuck it that whole "30's Something" cast is annoying to look at.
My brother saw it Tuesday night and loved it
by slone13
May 8th, 2008
08:21:52 AM

He said it was easily the best Indy sequel yet.

Sounds like ShogunMaster doesn't know shit and Merrick's predisposed to disliking it, too.

Why do it at all?
by malificus
May 8th, 2008
08:22:22 AM
I mean really, this is the golden age for movie geeks, super heroes, action films, effects-laden monstrocities,soul-cringing horror can even be found in abundance what the fuck do we even need with dredging poor Indiana Jones from the dusty backwashes of celluloid history anyway? Harrison Ford is, quite frankly, OLD and old and dodgey is something Indiana Jones should NEVER be. It's just like Chinese food, the crab cheese was great, the enormous first portion of General Tso's hit the spot, but that goddamned MSG just forces you to eat just a leeeeetle more, and then your sorry. I'm sorry for Indiana Jones, the character deserves better than an ego-driven money grab. Don't go see it I say, I refuse based on my love of the original, I don't want it spoiled. You wanna watch Adam West quipping and punching his way through a gloriously colorful episode of the 60's Bat Man show or join him 3 years after in a supermarket parking lot with a cheap reproduction of the cowl selling glossies? Take my advice and just stay away, if it's really all that you can always catch it on DVD but there better be a shitload of shining word of mouth before I befoul my memories of Raiders...I mean, any more than Temple of Doom did.
Lucas & Spielberg have lost their souls...
by chains
May 8th, 2008
08:23:53 AM
It's sad to see but painfully obvious. They've lost their hearts, their creativity, their fire. Too comfortable and family-oriented to be truly inspired, they simply don't put as much effort into their films as they did so long ago. I could tell from that first "Skull" trailer that everything looked too polished and plastic-like. This will likely be the Phanton Menace of Indy flicks.
Indy Trailer @ Iron Man....
by FleshMachine
May 8th, 2008
08:24:14 AM
the audience shut up for batman trailer...everyone seemed to ignore the indy trailer. weird. but ehn...not a great trailer especially compare to batman...which lok great. fuck fuck fuck...why cant they make a greta indy movie...raiders was on last night...wow..great fucking film!! sigh. lucas has zero talent left...speilberg should stick too serious films form now on. still..ill be first in line, but this does not bode well.
Fuck this guy.
by DocPazuzu
May 8th, 2008
08:26:20 AM
Wrong attitude going in, even worse while watching it.
True Indy fans will love it.
by UKfilmfan
May 8th, 2008
08:26:39 AM
you're going to get the haters...i for one have waited years for the film to be made...regardless of dodgy snakes and hiding in fridges...its all good...the 22nd May cant come fast enough...
But I will give you the main reason the trailers were "eh"...
by Nosferatu Jones
May 8th, 2008
08:27:34 AM
After 16 years passed before RETURN OF THE JEDI and EPISODE I, Lucas and Co. really did a great job at least of milking/playing-up the fact that PHANTOM MENACE was going to be the first new STAR WARS film in years.

Oddly enough, there is NOTHING in the INDY 4 trailers to suggest that, you know, "the Man in the Hat RETURNS, brother!!!" They're remarkably subdued, and they play as if CRYSTAL SKULL was just another entry in a long line of INDY sequels. Yeah, maybe there's one or two cracks about Indy's age, but someone forgot to get our blood pumping about the fact it's been almost 20 years since LAST CRUSADE. They don't even make any sort of big deal about Karen Allen/Marion being back. She's simply unceremoniously plopped into about, what, 3 seconds of the trailer? Not even a brief scene of Indy and Marion meeting each other again?

That's what I found odd about the trailers, anyway. I'll still see the film.

Still psyched
by Zempf
May 8th, 2008
08:29:03 AM
I dunno....Sounds like exactly the movie, Spielberg said he was setting out to make. I seem to remember him saying something about stiving to match tone and the "slower" editing of the three first movies. And what the hell happened to willing suspension of disbelief? The fake stuff doesn't mix with the real stuff? Didn't mix all that well i "The Last Crusade" either. Nevermind. Still looking forward to this.
Where have all you bastards been
by Lost Jarv
May 8th, 2008
08:30:14 AM
One bad review from a dickhead and you've all crawled out of the woodwork with your already sharpened TB knives at the ready.

Fucking hell, I got burnt by the prequels too, but this review screams of someone who a)doesn't get it and b)actively looked for flaws.

Relax, ignore it, and lets see what else comes up.

another review - spoiler free
by digginjim
May 8th, 2008
08:30:43 AM
merrick has mysteriously decided no to post... no spoilers (scroll down the page): http://italian.imdb.com/title/ tt0367882/
Allan Quartermain a "crappy indy knockoff"???
by Guy Who Got A Headache And Accidentally Saves The World
May 8th, 2008
08:31:10 AM
Was this reviewer dropped on his fucking head? Oxygen deprived from his brain for an extended period at any point in his life?
Indy Trailer.. Honest what was wrong!
by wowsucks
May 8th, 2008
08:31:33 AM
They didn't use the score with the whip crack in the warehouse. Honest! Made the scene blah, Indy movies need the crisp sound of the whip and score in action scenes to add the element and get the attention! Indy movies use audio to create drama, and faster paces. I hope they did not forget that.
DocP
by Lost Jarv
May 8th, 2008
08:32:07 AM
Diggers is up to his old tricks in the other thread. This is like all his Birthdays rolled into one and then decorated with Christmas for him.
This actually sounds great
by DanteS2005
May 8th, 2008
08:32:17 AM
Who gives a crap about speed and high-tension action sequences! This is not a Michael Bay movie. Who gives a sh!t is the jungle looks like plastic, or cgi doesn't blend with the real environment... c'mon! I want this to be an old school movie, both visually (no frenzied editing with nanoseconds long shots) and story wise. I PRETEND a slow movie.
I wish Spielbergo and Lucas..
by malificus
May 8th, 2008
08:32:47 AM
..would stop making movies altogether. I wish they'd change gears ala Michael Jordon and try something completely different, my god what's left for them to say or do? When is enough goddamned ENOUGH?
For those that can't be arsed to go to imdb (beware of foilage):
by Lost Jarv
May 8th, 2008
08:33:36 AM
Here's that review: p."I caught an advanced screening of the fourth Indiana Jones movie and I say I enjoyed it IMMENSELY!!! Wow, for years now I thought that after "War of The Worlds" Spielberg has lost his touch; not so here. Here he returns to the basic fundamentals of the lost arts of practicality and just plain good old fashioned genuine storytelling (something that's solely lacking in today's CGI-heavy world) helped along by the big guy himself Harrison Ford along with witty and charming Shia LaBeouf as a newcomer to the franchise with George Lucas lending some support to cinematography. Ford is simply amazing as the venerable adventurer with lots of impressive stunt work. Everything is bigger and better than before, the action is of high-caliber, the plot is thorough and exciting with intelligent writing coupled with awesome special effects. But what really surprised me was that it looked like it was filmed in the 1980's; something that's rare in this Digital Age!!! I'm sure those accustomed to digital film-making may be put off, but it actually works really well and gives the film an added dose of nostalgia and sense of wonder that Spielberg brought so successfully in his past films. Not many films can achieve that feat, but I can strongly say that Spielberg has gone out on top and brought back one the most beloved cinematic heroes around for one more time."
shit. Try again:
by Lost Jarv
May 8th, 2008
08:34:06 AM
Here's that review:

"I caught an advanced screening of the fourth Indiana Jones movie and I say I enjoyed it IMMENSELY!!! Wow, for years now I thought that after "War of The Worlds" Spielberg has lost his touch; not so here. Here he returns to the basic fundamentals of the lost arts of practicality and just plain good old fashioned genuine storytelling (something that's solely lacking in today's CGI-heavy world) helped along by the big guy himself Harrison Ford along with witty and charming Shia LaBeouf as a newcomer to the franchise with George Lucas lending some support to cinematography. Ford is simply amazing as the venerable adventurer with lots of impressive stunt work. Everything is bigger and better than before, the action is of high-caliber, the plot is thorough and exciting with intelligent writing coupled with awesome special effects. But what really surprised me was that it looked like it was filmed in the 1980's; something that's rare in this Digital Age!!! I'm sure those accustomed to digital film-making may be put off, but it actually works really well and gives the film an added dose of nostalgia and sense of wonder that Spielberg brought so successfully in his past films. Not many films can achieve that feat, but I can strongly say that Spielberg has gone out on top and brought back one the most beloved cinematic heroes around for one more time."

One bad review is not enough to discourage me.
by rbatty024
May 8th, 2008
08:34:33 AM
I'm going to wait until the professionals start reviewing this sucker before I change my expectations. Sure, critics can get it wrong too, but as a conglomerate they're far more accurate than some guy on the internet. The trailers have steadily improved and I trust Spielberg at the helm. He's been saying all the right things (he's not using those annoying quick cuts and he's trying to emulate the look of the previous films) despite some of the malice that's coming out of Lucas. I'll be there opening day.
Shogun Master is full of..
by digginjim
May 8th, 2008
08:34:57 AM
shit... - so Shia is Indys son..? not according to what this guy says about the DK book: I just glanced through the new DK Ultimate Guide to Indiana Jones at the local Barnes and Noble... among the few spoilers I read were: Hurt's character "ox" is a university friend of Indy who has disappeared down in Peru... he is also Mutt's surrogate dad.. helping Marion raise Mutt... Mutt's real father was an RAF pilot named Colin who was killed in the war.. also read in the timeline where they list Henry Sr's death in 1951... after seeing these points I had to put the book down... didn't want to read all of the spoilers... interesting stuff to say the least !
Crap Review
by Da B-Meister
May 8th, 2008
08:35:00 AM
I find that whole "review" to be complete garbage. It reeked of someone who was holding unreasonable expectations to begin with (which are impossible to satisfy completely) and he started to nit-pick every single thing he could find. I could give it a little credit if the movie ends up in more of the corny tone of Last Crusade, rather than the more serious, engaging Raiders.
He actually said..
by malificus
May 8th, 2008
08:35:08 AM
.."the action is high caliber".
Wait a second
by deathblurr
May 8th, 2008
08:35:09 AM
A recent report mentioned shai as not being indy's son, this guy mentions him as being indy's son. also, in trailer shai refers to indy as professor. this review could be legit, but wasn't well written enough, or smart enough for me to even finish reading.
Bunch of whiney bitches
by theabusetaker
May 8th, 2008
08:35:09 AM
Man, you guys would bitch and whine about anything. You got a new Indiana Jones movie - why not celebrate in the fact instead of making the whole experience miserable and tainted for everyone else. "George Lucas raped my childhood-wah, wah, wah!" How can you expect some kind of tension AFTER three other films where he always escapes by the skin of his teeth? I mean, of course we know what to expect after three other films, dumbass. That's what most people want to see. They want to see the Man back in action, and I can tell you that from what I've seen, he's definitely back in action, especially for a 65 year old. The trailer looked slow? It's a one minute trailer. How can ANYTHING except a romantic drama or a film about The Tortois and The Hare look slow in one minute?
Nice one Lost Jarv
by UKfilmfan
May 8th, 2008
08:35:18 AM
Saw this as well!Good Call!
Isn't it "Dr. Jones?" Mr. Jones was the Counting Crows
by thebigtexas
May 8th, 2008
08:36:07 AM
Just a quick correction to the review above...although I had a feeling that this movie was going to suck. It seriously does lack "tension" on the trailers. I mean, no one feels any excitement when you make movies like this any more. You KNOW he's going to be ok. There's no suspense. -- The Big Texas
I saw this thing on tues. - it was best of sequels
by Dick Bahls
May 8th, 2008
08:38:34 AM
They can never out do the original. That being said, this guy must have seen a different movie than me. Although maybe his mommy forgot to pack his ritilin - poor baby.
Fuck that
by CuervoJones
May 8th, 2008
08:39:15 AM
I´m gonna enjoy it, even if i need drugs to do it.
i can't not think Napoleon Dynamite...
by Gatsbys West Egg Omlet
May 8th, 2008
08:40:21 AM
at the beginning of that new trailer. that voice over by Ford sound so much like Kip.

and i think this will be bad, but i also think people will convince themselves its not. like some have with the prequels.

What's with Mutt's last name?
by beastie
May 8th, 2008
08:40:53 AM
I saw the toy at Wal-Mart the other day and the last name is Williams. Not Jones or Ravenwood. It sounds like his father is someone with the last name, Williams.
"It seriously does lack "tension" on the trailers."
by Lost Jarv
May 8th, 2008
08:41:44 AM
So. Fucking. What.

All that means is that the Marketing sucks.

Also, to Lost Jarv, thanks for giving me hope...
by beastie
May 8th, 2008
08:41:56 AM
... with that other review. Hope it's not a plant.
Ford should follow Connery and Newman...
by thedarklinglord
May 8th, 2008
08:43:49 AM
And just retire. Hollywood doesn't know what to do with him (and he doesn't know how to select scripts anymore) and when he can't even save a fucking Indiana Jones movie, then there's just no point in being on film anymore. Not that I ever believe they'd be able to pull off another Indy movie after so many years. Spielberg has become a more uneven director in the last decade. Lucas still can't write worth shit. And Ford has to face the reality that he's gotten old, which means he's no longer suitable to play "action" roles and the best he can hope for is to play the gruff, crusty, wise-crackin' ex-hero - which is probably where they should have taken things with Indy 4, minimizing Ford's time onscreen while maximizing his usage with crisply written, appropriately smart dialogue and actions, but Shia is too much of a fucking pussy to be a star, leaving the weight of the entire movie on Ford's geezer shoulders. They should have just left well enough alone. Seriously, can we stop with all the fucking sequels, prequels, trilogies, and remakes? How about it Hollywood? Can you maybe, just fucking MAYBE, churn out the occasional self-contained movie that tells a great fucking story that can be successful without the need for you bastards to keep right on assfucking it until it's a shrivelled-up husk begging for death? No, of course not. What am I thinking? You've got that new Star Trek on the way, and we both know you won't be able to resist squeezing that tit dry, then lopping it off and tossing it in the blender to get every last drop. I'm really beginning to hate movies.
As tackbacker I Dunno so aptly said...
by DocPazuzu
May 8th, 2008
08:43:51 AM
..."It's Indiana FUCKING Jones, you assholes!!"
Christ this ones harsh... spoilers
by digginjim
May 8th, 2008
08:44:20 AM
another imdb entry So I caught an advance screening in New York a week ago...what a disappointment. The movie is more leisurely paced than Last Crusade, which was tame but fun. This movie has no sense of fun or adventure...it glides by with nary a trace of humor or action within the first hour. The opening sequence feels flat, all set in a warehouse, and with the most implausible action this side of the Temple of Doom river. Surviving a nuclear blast inside a fridge??? Being thrown against chains and steel walls and rocket sled at intense speeds without a scratch? Maybe the younger Indiana Jones would have, not this old Indiana Jones. Cate Blanchett comes off best but her line readings become monotonous, stressing the incredulity of the plot with more dialog in the first hour than Shakespeare!!! And badly written dialog to boot! Ford is stoic, seemingly depressed throughout though his brief scenes with Karen Allen, in an extended cameo as Marion, do come alive. Shia has no attitude, Ray Winstone has some bravura moments where he accosts Ford inside a car or questions him about his age but even he feels like leftover material from the Lost World. Not a very good sign. And John Hurt looks like he would rather be somewhere else - he is not Abner Ravenwood by the way. As for action scenes, they are even more brief than Last Crusade. This movie is trying to be a drama but it fails because nothing in it feels the least bit dramatic...it is so watered down that the music actually feels boring. I will say the sound effects and special effects are amazing. The inside of the temple with its various trap doors are fascinating, but there is nothing serial like about this movie = no sudden attempts to escape death or surviving traps (the less said about the snakes in the quicksand, the better). This movie is inert and contains villains that wouldn't harm a prairie dog (though there is a scene involving dogs and animal experiments that will freak out PETA). I've enjoyed the first three films but this one is not a rousing finish...and the revelations can be seen coming from miles and miles, not to mention the incessant double crosses. Forget crystal Skull...stick with some art-house fare - you'll be a better person for it.
Shia Lagoof
by mynameisnickpappageorgioandthisi sarealbowflexbody
May 8th, 2008
08:44:45 AM
Who is this sack of crap blowing to get these juicy roles and can an actor with some talent please take his lead and edge this guy out of future roles?
Now heres the thing
by UKfilmfan
May 8th, 2008
08:45:01 AM
All the hate on Indy...name drops Allen Quatermaine....called ShogunMaster....mthinks a Richard Chamberlain fixation?
Lies, Lies, Lies
by bingcrosbyb
May 8th, 2008
08:45:21 AM
He could have definitely gotten all of that information from the Topps trading cards. Hell, he can't even spell correctly!!!! This is a BOGUS review.
'STINO', NosferatuJones?
by raw_bean
May 8th, 2008
08:45:30 AM
Would that be George Lucas' famous 'Star *Trek* In Name Only'? :D
Hmmm....
by Lightwave7871
May 8th, 2008
08:47:49 AM
This review reads like the guy is simply reaching for issues... it reads not like someone disappointed with a film, but someone with an agenda... Honking on about the sound stages looking fake compared to real world outside shots! I just think the guy went in with an opinion and searched to justify it rather than review it... I'll wait for a few more "rough" reviews before I'd think this was anything other than one guy wanting to start a new "george lucas raped my childhood" gag
My Drama
by Series7
May 8th, 2008
08:48:25 AM
teacher in high school was the guy kicked out of the Van in the first Indy movie. There is now a lego of that scene. I don't know though, that guys name is Terry Leonard, I can't remember who my drama teacher was, but Terry seems kind of famous in the stunt world. My teacher was probably a liar.

http://tinyurl.com/5eylvw

Actually, I suppose you're right.
by raw_bean
May 8th, 2008
08:48:31 AM
Those prequel films *didn't* actually seem to have anything to do with the Star Trek I remember. Were the 'Jedis' supposed to be Vulcans or something? I guess that means that 'Sith Lord' guy was starting the *Romulan* Empire in that third film. And what was with turning the Federation into weird alien japanese businessmen with robot armies? :D
Topps Trading Cards
by UKfilmfan
May 8th, 2008
08:49:29 AM
Review posted a couple of days ago of these cards...outline of the film could easily be described by these...exactly what the 'review' noted...makes me suspect???
Will top out at $150 million. Bombs away.
by Laserhead
May 8th, 2008
08:50:29 AM
i wonder...
by Gatsbys West Egg Omlet
May 8th, 2008
08:51:56 AM
were people making these kind of excuses while reading harsh reviews for episode one?

i was a closet geek at the time, and didn't frequent these sites.

Quatermain vs Indy
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
May 8th, 2008
08:53:57 AM
The guy said Quatermain is a cheap knock-off of Indy. Quatermain was written in 1885, what the fuck are you talking about?
Richard Chamberlain!
by TroutMaskReplicant
May 8th, 2008
08:55:47 AM
Yummers!
PLANT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !
by Nate Champion
May 8th, 2008
08:57:30 AM
All just part of Spielberg's plan to get us all thinkin' it sucks and then blow our asses away. At least I hope so. I'll still take a shitty Indiana Jones movie over anything else coming out this summer.
HEY
by BurgerTime
May 8th, 2008
08:57:40 AM
I'd pay to watch Indy take a shit at this point, it's been so long since an installment. So it'll be better than nothing I suppose.
Any real reviews out there from VERIFIED sources?
by bingcrosbyb
May 8th, 2008
08:58:04 AM
Didn't think so. Just Lucas haters that lost their childhood to the star wars prequels. Give it a rest ShogunMaster and go play with your light saber....
Chamberlain...
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
May 8th, 2008
08:58:15 AM
....oh I guess he is speaking of the movies and not the character itself. I see. Speaking of that movie-- I liked that scene when they are in the giant pot thing about to get cooked....
Can someone please expain to me
by Lost Jarv
May 8th, 2008
08:58:30 AM
why the negative reviews have such a fucking hard on for Abner Ravenwood?

This leads me to believe that there is a fairly large dose of Ringwearer9 syndrome going around- they have very specific expectations and if they are not met then the film is a dud.

George Lucas created Star Wars, Indiana Jones and ILM
by CuervoJones
May 8th, 2008
08:59:07 AM
You just create things in the toilet. Live with it.
dread.....?
by spudwas
May 8th, 2008
08:59:09 AM
Ouch...this is going to hurt. "Say it ain't so...steve! say it ain't so!"
Why hasn't that ghoul, NoDiggity...
by DocPazuzu
May 8th, 2008
08:59:47 AM
...showed up yet, salivatinig over this review? It's like he himself wrote the damn thing. Six months ago.
I knew it
by wizzard890
May 8th, 2008
08:59:57 AM
I didn't want to admit how unenthusiastic the trailers left me, but now I suppose there's nothing I can do. I might not even TRY to suffer through this one.
Somewhere Memories Of Murder
by skimn
May 8th, 2008
09:00:17 AM
is chuckling to himself somewhere. That bastard always asserted that IJ4 was a soulless money grab on the part of Lucas and Spielberg. I'd hate it if he is right. Shogun hit the nail on the head regarding a sense of danger. I enjoyed DH4 for the competant action machine that it was, but Bruce Willis' character never seemed to be in any real mortal danger. He seemed more pissed off, with a look of consternation of his face, as opposed to the "What the fuck am I in the middle of" look of the original. Its that lack of danger that was off in DH4, that made it a bit hollow.

Now, Indiana Jones was always a bit lighter fare than the Die Hard series, but they drew the line of good and evil very clearly, and lives were at stake. Sure, the title hero never dies, but at least take his possible demise seriously. James Bond was not going to be lasered from the balls up in Goldfinger, but damn if it didn't look like it COULD happen.

I'll be there for Indy on opening weekend. I'm just afraid it may be a 2 1/2 star affair instead of a solid four.

I think I could have written this review without seeing the film
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
May 8th, 2008
09:00:20 AM
Honestly. He doesnt give away much.....maybe that swinging on a snake bit, but I could have sworn I read that happened somewhere....so......
Ever thought that the magic's gone?
by nerosday
May 8th, 2008
09:00:23 AM
Maybe its not the films, well if they are flaming pieces of crap it IS the films, but maybe its our expectations too. We whine if it’s not enough like we remember, we bitch if it’s too much. We scream about flames on Optimus and nipples on Batsuits, Emo Spideys, and Michael Bay raping our childhoods. Maybe part of it is us. I think we are the first generation that has never fully let go of its childhood, not only that we brought it back through pop culture right when we were supposed to become "men" and get married and have kids. But we fool ourselves into thinking the magic lasts into adulthood. Sadly I don't think it does, with age the wonder we saw everything with as kids fades guys, and we see with a cynical eye what we simply accepted as kids. Sadly, I don't think they need to bring anything back from our childhoods anymore. If they want to make Superhero movies go ahead, those characters change anyway, but not Indy or GI Joe or even Transformers. We want to see them as we saw them as kids and we never will. Trying to is just rubbing salt in the wounds and reminding us of our age.
RawBean: Heh-heh.
by Nosferatu Jones
May 8th, 2008
09:01:54 AM
Yeah, I meant SWINO. Or STWINO would work, too, I suppose!
The Quartermain reference
by filmcoyote
May 8th, 2008
09:01:58 AM
proves this guy is a moron but does that make him wrong? I've been worried about this one for a while. Lucas just has too much control to hope for a good outcome.
Fuck Abner Ravenwood
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
May 8th, 2008
09:02:33 AM
I can give a shit if he is in this. I'm pumped for Indy to be back on the big-screen....and I don't really believe this review is an honest one.
BurgerTime
by just pillow talk
May 8th, 2008
09:04:20 AM
I almost share your sentiment, though I would most definitely pass watching Indy take a dump.

Listen, there are two distinct camps: one that is predisposed to hate the new Indy, and one that is going to see it regardless of any negative reviews and judge for themselves.

I am not saying it's going to be great, cause I sure as hell don't know. I do know I liked the latest trailer, and I have the hope that I'll get a solid Indy movie. Does that mean I'm going into the movie automatically liking it no matter what unfolds in front of my eyes? No. Hell, I ignored every single Spidey 3 bashing review and was giving it the benefit of the doubt until I saw it myself. I loved the first two, but I hated the shit out of Spidey 3. The same will go with Indy 4.

I´ve seen it yesterday too. Merrick,here´s my Review: FUCK YOU!!
by gunganhater
May 8th, 2008
09:04:50 AM
Abner Ravenwood
by Samuel Fulmer
May 8th, 2008
09:04:58 AM
I'm glad to see John Hurt is playing someone else. I hate it when past movies establish a character that we never see as being dead, only to have them show up again in a sequel.
Never mind...
by DocPazuzu
May 8th, 2008
09:05:14 AM
...I'll just fill in for him:

I fear Indy 4 will be too pulpy!

Everything in the last three Indy movies is a "callback" to Raiders!

Newt is Jones!

Burke is Ash!

Vasquez and Drake are Parker and Brett!

The guy reaching longingly in the Indy 4 trailer is Satipo, er, reaching longingly in Raiders!

Gremlins = cultural sabotage!

The hat... The Hat... THE HAAAAT!!!

I loved King Solomon's Mines
by Sithdan
May 8th, 2008
09:05:31 AM
Great movie! How could you not like it?
Not Surprised
by ScottinDC
May 8th, 2008
09:05:55 AM
I'm not surprised...I've read a few other reviews by people who were part of the two largest screenings to date. The reviews have largely been poor with about 1/3 being positive ... my guess is that those follks who are really jonesing for an Indy adventure will be satisfied to see the old boy back on the screen. But for the rest of us, the movie will be somewhat dissatisfying (the trailers have all fallen flat IMO and I just can't take Shia seriously). 1/3 of all people enjoyed the Star Wars prequels - the rest of us loathed them. This reviewer clearly went in to this movie ready to not enjoy it which has colored his thoughts a bit; but it doesn't mean he's wrong.
jaded opinions, we're all older and picky as hell.
by zom-bot.com
May 8th, 2008
09:07:11 AM
i dunno folks, it sounds about as good as the last Indy movie.

as far as the kid saying the trailer was 'too slow'. well, he's a kid born in the 2000's. i value his opinion on attention span about as much as i value the crusty penny rusted to the floor in my garage.

i just think having all grown up with the other indy's we all have magical memories that can never be topped, cravings that will never be satisfied. we will be critical and look for fault in a movie that we would love if we went into it with the heart of a child in the 80's again. But we are old and bitter, and nitpick every grain of a film. the other flicks were by no stretch perfect. there are people that still like temple of doom even though it looks like it was shot in a hangar, and there are people that will like this.

John Rhys-Davies in King Solomon's Mines in '85
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
May 8th, 2008
09:07:20 AM
Do you think Spielberg called him in the middle of the night and threatened to cut his balls off is he made this cheap shit? What an insult to go from Raiders to this. He might as well have raped Lucas' adopted daughter in front of him.
LOL DocP
by just pillow talk
May 8th, 2008
09:07:52 AM
And that is the cliff notes version of every single one of NoDiggity's posts.
I doubt it
by The Funketeer
May 8th, 2008
09:08:08 AM
You say you know there was a screening but I'd like to know how you know since everything I've read indicates they wouldn't be screening it for anyone before Cannes. I didn't read past the spoiler warning because I don't want to know what happens but I'm really looking forward to this movie and I'm glad it's being made even though movie fans in this day and age are too jaded to appreciate something like this. I doubt Raiders or Star Wars would have done well with this crowd if they hadn't first seen it when they were 8 years old. Lighten up and have some fun guys.
nerosday
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
May 8th, 2008
09:10:13 AM
You're right. We all need to grow the fuck up. Seriously. And for Merrick bringing up his kid saying the trailer was slow, as I read that line I muttered to myself, "Who gives a fuck what your kid things? Because he is a product of your seed and you write for the site I'm suppose to value his fucking opinion?!"
So we got 1 review so far. And this is bad.
by DerLanghaarige
May 8th, 2008
09:10:20 AM
This means of course nothing. I'm scared anyway, just because Spielberg didn't made a good movie since 1993.
Ponderous, man. Fucking ponderous!!!
by Mr. Nice Gaius
May 8th, 2008
09:10:31 AM
Sometimes, I really hate these dubious early reviews. All they do is stir the shitstorm.
Doc- he did it in the other thread (where this first appeared)
by Lost Jarv
May 8th, 2008
09:11:29 AM
It will take him a while. It's very difficult typing only using your penis.
Dear ladies and gentlemen this 100% without a shadow of a doubt
by Stupendous Man
May 8th, 2008
09:11:46 AM
most definitely a plant...i can read between the lines...shogunmaster should shogun his a$$ on outa here!! hehe
This Years's Transformers!!!
by greenstyle92
May 8th, 2008
09:12:57 AM
Will make a shit load of cash, be loved by the general public, but geeks will be split. Half the geeks will hate it and the other half will swallow hard, take a shot, and say, "Well, uhm, I think that's all I could reasonably expect from an Indy movie, so I liked it." Then bend over so an ass raping and start crying.
But God, I hope that's not true.
by greenstyle92
May 8th, 2008
09:14:10 AM
I don't WANT it to be true. But if a film has an wriggle room to doubt it, most will denounce it. We are all still mighty jaded from Episode I.
Fake Review!!!!!
by bingcrosbyb
May 8th, 2008
09:14:18 AM
Ain't It Cool News...You aren't going to be taken seriously as first rate entertainment news unless you start verifying your sources. The review is like reading STRAIGHT from the Topps cards. There are NO specific details in the review. All of the information is floating around the internet. Harry, you and AICN have sunken to a new low.
Transformers
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
May 8th, 2008
09:14:39 AM
Half the geeks loved it? Whoever make up that half can go fuck themselves and never speak to me again. Seriously.....
Love it or loathe it
by UKfilmfan
May 8th, 2008
09:14:46 AM
Indy 4 will push $150m domestic and double it and add some for global- any takers?-this is pretty conservative as well
If Last Crusade came out today....
by wildphantom07
May 8th, 2008
09:15:14 AM
with the internet around there would be so much cynicism like this new movie is gonna get. The guy who mentioned the plane passing the Jones boys in the tunnel scene in Crusade nailed it. I was watching the movie the other week thinking how there must be a crowd that hate that stuff. But the sequels are littered with that kind of slapstick. I fully anticipate there to be bucketloads of the stuff in Crystal Skull. There's no way I'm going in there expecting anything less. For those of you going in there anticipating another Raiders, you aint gonna get it. Its going to be ridiculous but fun. You'll either cheer along with it as Indy quips his way through set piece after set piece with the theme tune blaring; or you'll shake your head and deny what you're seeing is the same as the other two sequels. My suggestion for those out there who read this review and thought "uh oh!!!" - watch the sequels again over the last two weeks we've got to go. Therefore at the very least you won't be bashing it for not being like the originals.
Will this movie rape my childhood?
by Pizza The Hut
May 8th, 2008
09:15:46 AM
Boy, I hope so... I could use a good rape... as long as I'm raped by a woman. ----- Seriously though, I could care less if it's not the perfect Indy movie. Raiders will always be the perfect Indy movie. Even if it's not great, I will still have a good time, and not regret having shelled out the $100 or whatever it costs now to see a movie ($200 if you count popcorn and a Coke).
why did you run this?
by Wee Willie
May 8th, 2008
09:15:55 AM
This guy is a spoilsport. I bet he didn't even see the movie. He just got drunk and made up a review.
Same old same old
by tomdolan04
May 8th, 2008
09:16:03 AM
If it had been a positive post: "PLAAAAAAANT"

It's negative: "He doesn't know what the fuck hes on about"

He said the MOVIE was a Raiders ripoff, NOT the books.
by NoDiggity
May 8th, 2008
09:16:37 AM
Fucking talkbackers with no reading comprehension abilities. He specifically referred to the Richard Chamberlain movies, "King Solomon's Mines" (folloing Raiders, and obviously cashing on on Raiders popularity) and "Allan Quatermain and the City of Gold", whose very TITLE is a ripoff of "Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom", and intended to cash in on the release of that Indy film. And the MOVIE "City of Gold" was so loosely based on H. Rider Haggard's books that it barely counts as an adaption of those books. Being loosely based on a book does not make a film any less of a rip-off or cash-in on a recently successful film. (I sadly await DocPazuzu's retarded shouts about how it's impossible that they could possibly have anything to do with eachother, because they were based on books.)
Ah, look at us. Bashing the reviewer...
by sapno_krei
May 8th, 2008
09:17:41 AM
Seriously folks, as much as I was/am looking forward to Indy 4, and as diasppointed as I am to read this guys's opinion as the first review, I really can't say anything in response until I've seen the movie for myself. Everybody take a deep breath, sit on your hands, and wait until May 22nd.
Once again for the cheap seats
by Lost Jarv
May 8th, 2008
09:19:09 AM
trailer being meh=

So. Fucking. What. All that means is that the Marketing sucks.

That's how the trailer feels - no peril, no adventure
by performingmonkey
May 8th, 2008
09:19:12 AM
If they can't show us anything good in the trailer what hope is there for the whole movie?? Fellowship of the Ring still has the best trailer of all time, of course.
Maybe we ought to see it before -
by Laserbrain
May 8th, 2008
09:19:43 AM
- sticking the shiv into this reviewer, eh? There is a possibility (hopefully slim) that he's right and just wants to spare us a little pain. I don't want to believe Skull has "no tension", God, that's a nightmare scenario, but I'd much rather go in prepared.
Seriously, why did they even make this one, for starters?
by cifra
May 8th, 2008
09:20:32 AM
Some things are better left as they were already. The Indiana Jones "trilogy" (actually a case of Lucas greed) isn't perfect, even, and all three movies have some embarrassing movies for its audiences. I could be a geek and like the movies, but these, as the Star Wars movies (ALL of them) are overrated, there's been way better and more perfect geek movies (John Carpenter's The Thing, Blade Runner) more deserving of sequels and success than these ones... sorry if I bother someone.
Smug much, Merrick?
by VaderSabre
May 8th, 2008
09:21:03 AM
One amateur review lent credence to your dire assumptions?
'That looks slow'
by LaudnerGomez
May 8th, 2008
09:21:19 AM
Boy, way to be a great father and raise a kid with taste and patience, you complete boob.
re titles
by Lost Jarv
May 8th, 2008
09:21:33 AM
Diggers, can you not concede the point that an awful lot of pulp literature has the title: Mr X and the (something or other). It's just a pulp title and does not mean that it is ripping off Indy.

You're like a particularly stupid dog with a particularly chewed bone.

re titles
by Lost Jarv
May 8th, 2008
09:21:33 AM
Diggers, can you not concede the point that an awful lot of pulp literature has the title: Mr X and the (something or other). It's just a pulp title and does not mean that it is ripping off Indy.

You're like a particularly stupid dog with a particularly chewed bone.

NoDiggity
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
May 8th, 2008
09:21:54 AM
Here is the quote fucker:

".....as it accidentally referenced the old Allen Quartermaine days (a crappy knockoff of Indy Movies incase you missed them) and this was very much similar in most respects."

I figured out what he meant.....but reading this makes it sound like he thought the Quatermaine character in general was a rip-off of Indy movies. Not RAIDERS-- he never mentioned Raiders, and he never mentioned Richard Chamberlain, in that quote you worthless fucking twat. I understand the Quatermain movies in the 80's were cashing in on Indy success. It didnt seem to me like the original poster did. SO FUCK OFF.

Wow, double post
by Lost Jarv
May 8th, 2008
09:22:42 AM
and I only pressed it once. Sorry.

And fuck off AnimalStructure.

Will this movie be any good?
by Hawaiian Organ Donor
May 8th, 2008
09:23:33 AM
Probably not. Are most of us still going to see it? Odds say yes. Will we be on AICN right after seeing it in the theater to sling monkey dung at it? Absolutely.
Diggers
by Lost Jarv
May 8th, 2008
09:23:36 AM
you have just been horribly pwnd by Dickblood.

I'd stop now before you make it worse for yourself.

Nothing is definitive in terms of opinion
by TheLastCleric
May 8th, 2008
09:24:44 AM
I make no apologies for my love of the prequels and I have no real concerns over this newest Jones flick, especially after reading all these posts taking shots at the Indy sequels. If people really hated Temple and Crusade that's their fucking problem, not mine. I remember the shrill cries when Phantom Menace hit and I also remember being completely blown away by most of the film, save for a few issues that did nothing to dampen my enthusiasm. I've never really understood the mentality that seeks to nitpick the living fuck out of these films but I do know that the detractors come off as joyless where by contrast I get to be a kid again, if only for a couple of hours. If you hate this film then hate it, it's your right. Just please don't tell the rest of us that we've "convinced ourselves" the movie is good. For some of us, life is too short to pedantically tear apart every facet of something that was meant to entertain.
Horrible review...
by Spiral_Jacobs
May 8th, 2008
09:24:45 AM
I do not have high hopes for this, given how I feel about Lucas post-prequel trilogy, but this is an awful review. Spelling mistakes and stupidity abound. As someone else pointed out, Alan Quatermain (this is the correct spelling) is a literary figure dating back to 1885s King Solomon's Mines, and was the prototypical adventure hero. I'm not sure what puzzles me more: that someone would write up a review in this state and send it in to be published online, or that a site would actually publish this crap.
But as fanboys...
by Dude_gimme_tabs
May 8th, 2008
09:25:55 AM
As movie geeks some will hate it because they have now been told to, and some will love it just because it is Indy.
i feel bad for a kid who thinks a quick cut trailer is slow.
by zom-bot.com
May 8th, 2008
09:27:11 AM
he must just shit himself crying trying to fathom something like reading, or waiting. or bathing, or eating. or anything that isn't redbull and coco puffs being given to him for breakfast, followed by shitty seizure inducing japanese import cartoons on WB
mmmmm... something doesn't quite sound right here.
by alucardvsdracula
May 8th, 2008
09:27:32 AM
No real specifics, reads like someone with access to a load of Crystal Skull trading cards and was feeling in a pissed off mood. I'll reserve judgement, for now. Could be bogus. We'll see soon enough people.
If it's bad, then all the more reason to make Indy 5
by Pizza The Hut
May 8th, 2008
09:28:42 AM
...so that George & Steven can apologize for #4. In any case, all is not lost.
Sorry negative reviews, haters, and...
by mrfan
May 8th, 2008
09:29:22 AM
bashers. I still plan on being there opening night. I think I am capable of making that decision. Don't need anyone telling me otherwise. Even if Indy 4 is a turd it will still be better than many of the movies that have graced the big screen in the last few years.
Please don't make fun of the guys kid
by Samuel Fulmer
May 8th, 2008
09:29:56 AM
Maybe he's autistic. If your kid was autistic, he'd probably say the same thing.
of course
by snapple_ladys_lazy_eye
May 8th, 2008
09:30:05 AM
it sucked. george lucas is no longer any good.
Franklin T Marmoset
by Seph_J
May 8th, 2008
09:31:50 AM
then we can all argue over who shot first at the ranch... Lucas (with his Han Solo prop gun) or.. Ben Burt (with his sonic-boomer-izer microphone-gun).

Either way, we still won't be able to hear John Williams score.

John Williams Score
by Samuel Fulmer
May 8th, 2008
09:34:32 AM
I just hope there isn't any last minute editing that turned it into a cut and paste job, a la preaty much any action scene in the prequels where seven different cues were plastered together because George wanted to add more poop jokes or C-3P0.
SHIT LEBEEF
by spud mcspud
May 8th, 2008
09:37:11 AM
As soon as I knew he was in it, I knew I'd fucking hate this movie. It doesn't matter how good the rest of the movie is, that bastard kid really gets my goat, for some reason. I almost didn't get to enjoy TransMeganFox'sRack 'cos of that brat being in it, he's just got this whole fast-talkin' wiseass shtick that was old twenty years ago. Couple this with a grumpy Ford, a beaming Marion (yeah Karen Allen gets paid, but was Marion EVER happy in that first movie? We loved her 'cos she was hardcore, DAMMIT!) and the slowest trailers in movie history. The trailers are shit, people - maybe that's a fucking clue?

I hoped and hoped, but my movie-lovin' childhood-balls are anticipating another rapin' by the beards. They invented Event Cinema - now they're fucking burying it again. Way to go, you slow old goatfuckers.

Still, there's always HELLBOY II. If there's one director who WON'T fuck us all over, it's Guillermo...

I'm still trying to figure out how a trailer looks "slow"
by rbatty024
May 8th, 2008
09:37:13 AM
As excited as I am about the new Batman, I thought the only truly disappointing moments in Begins were the action scenes. The quick camera cuts absolutely killed the choreography. At least that won't be the case with a new Indy film. Perhaps people are just so used to the quick cuts they just don't understand how some of us can watch in amazement as a well choreographed action piece unfolds before our eyes.
Harry, you better keep an eye on Merrick
by slone13
May 8th, 2008
09:39:11 AM

He's destroying any and all credibilty your site had by posting tripe like this.

"...presumably this is how ShogunMaster saw it". Presumably??? Couldn't be bothered confirming a few details, Merrick? Details, I might add, that ShogunMaster seems to be suspiciously lacking in or is straight up wrong about.

Merrick, you're embarrassing Harry and insulting me.

Samuel Fulmer
by Pizza The Hut
May 8th, 2008
09:39:38 AM
LOL!! A cameo C-3PO gag would actually be kind of funny, or even a Chewie gag, if the designs were on something like a mummy coffin, or painted on a tomb wall. Uh-oh... I don't want to be giving George any ideas.
A kid saying slow in this day and age...
by mr.brownstone
May 8th, 2008
09:41:18 AM
is like a cokehead looking at you waiting for you to finish talking.
George Lucas Raped My Childhood!!!
by kdoc13
May 8th, 2008
09:42:20 AM
Sorry, no one had said it in a while, just thought I had to get it out there.
c3po gags ARE in indy stuff
by zom-bot.com
May 8th, 2008
09:44:22 AM
"Samuel Fulmer by Pizza The Hut May 8th, 2008 09:39:38 AM LOL!! A cameo C-3PO gag would actually be kind of funny, or even a Chewie gag, if the designs were on something like a mummy coffin, or painted on a tomb wall. Uh-oh... I don't want to be giving George any ideas. "

have tou seen the raider lego set? there is c3po and r2d2 in a heiroglyphic block, i think.

Presumably
by Lost Jarv
May 8th, 2008
09:45:18 AM
It's only presumably because he cut and paste it from the other TB.

Therefore it is guaranteed horseshit- although it is like throwing a steak to a starving man for all the people that are determined to loathe it.

kdoc13
by spud mcspud
May 8th, 2008
09:45:19 AM
And it likely he'll be buggering your adulthood by the end of May, if this review is accurate, which I fear it maybe. Watch your ass!
Spud McSpud
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
May 8th, 2008
09:45:44 AM
Funniest line of the week:

"I hoped and hoped, but my movie-lovin' childhood-balls are anticipating another rapin' by the beards."

"this is the Movie that you were dreading" dreading?
by Trazadone
May 8th, 2008
09:45:48 AM
Who has been dreading this? I've been nothing but excited and anyone I've spoken to shares my enthusiasm. The trailers gave me goosebumps. This is going to be a huge hit. This is just such a silly review. I think Spielberg has a pretty good track record.
zom-bot.com
by Pizza The Hut
May 8th, 2008
09:45:51 AM
Loks like they beat me to it. It doesn't surprise me.
The Alan Quatermain bit....
by Rameses
May 8th, 2008
09:46:10 AM
In this guys defense , I think he's talking about the film version of King Solomon's mines {starring Richard Chamberlin},which was obviously thrown into production , to cash in on Raiders success{along with tales of the Gold monkey on tv etc} rather than the literary classic.In that respect he's correct.As for the review it does seem to reflect the feeling I've been getting from all the clips trailers and so on , that Crystal skull was going to be more crusade than raiders.
Jarv
by spud mcspud
May 8th, 2008
09:47:18 AM
Yeah, but tell me that trailer didn't fill you with a mounting sense of dread? I mean, the mugging when Indy fires the RPG in the truck front seat, that slow-ass swing on the overhead light in the warehouse, the whole "Part time" line, the four-way temple sinking into the ground...

I smell a shitbomb. I hope I'm wrong, but the trailer's ain't exactly great...

Isn't a restaurant in Temple of Doom...
by rbatty024
May 8th, 2008
09:47:26 AM
named Chewie's or something along those lines. So a Star Wars reference would not be out of place so long as it's not too obvious.
10 years from now, Speilberg will digitally replace Shia LePoof
by prof_chaos
May 8th, 2008
09:47:33 AM
Ewoks... Since he already did that with Return of the Jedi.
daddy, life is too slow.needs more e'splosions. kill me now
by zom-bot.com
May 8th, 2008
09:47:35 AM
too bad there aren't any quick cuts when you are growing up. or in schoolwork. although when you get to be our age, our childhood sure feels fucking gone fast. dude, you need to go and sit outside in a field with your kid for a few hours and just watch bugs in the grass.
Spielberg is a FUCKING GOD........
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
May 8th, 2008
09:48:09 AM
....a bearded FUCKING GOD. He can do no wrong in my book. His worst film-- 1941, is still pretty damn entertaining.
King Solomon´s Mines
by CuervoJones
May 8th, 2008
09:48:23 AM
Deborah Kerr was a hot lady.
Club Obi-Wan
by Samuel Fulmer
May 8th, 2008
09:48:38 AM
That's the name of the club at the start of TOD.
The reviewer offers nothing new that is not online.
by Dogballs99
May 8th, 2008
09:48:59 AM
Everything the reviewer stated are things I have already seen "leaked" online. Even the snake bit. There were parts of the movie that I'd heard about (which I won't spoil) where I thought, "This could go really bad" but he never made one mention of any of those scenes. It really makes me wonder if the guy actually saw it at all? I've also heard conflicting reports that there were rave reviews from paramount employee screenings. Otherwise, this movie isn't supposed to be screened until Cannes. Maybe he is a paramount employee? Who knows, but the reviewer only offered one nugget of info that I haven't seen yet and there seems to be an active campagn to dull down our expectations. Anyway, I just want to see Indy kick some ass, raid some lost temples and crack the whip a few times! That would make me happy.
What did you expect from Merrick?
by DerLanghaarige
May 8th, 2008
09:49:01 AM
He hates cats, for fucks sake!
You sound like you went into it with the intention of disliking
by Trazadone
May 8th, 2008
09:49:10 AM
Nothing you state in your review suggests that this is a bad movie. It sounds like the Indy movie I've been hoping for.
rbatty024
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
May 8th, 2008
09:49:13 AM
The lounge place they are at in the beginning is OBI-WAN'S...you can see the neon sign when Indy and Willie jump out the window into Short-Round's car.
club obi wan- in temple of doom
by zom-bot.com
May 8th, 2008
09:49:26 AM
they may have spelled it differently. i can't remember and don't want to rewatch. :)
DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
by spud mcspud
May 8th, 2008
09:49:28 AM
Thank you. Particularly coming from the man with the best TB name of the week. Is your Dickblood also only four days from retirement? ;D

I'm too old for this shit.

I've got my Qualms my tuburous friend,
by Lost Jarv
May 8th, 2008
09:49:55 AM
the words "George Lucas" will always do that, but I'm trying to keep an open mind. It's far too early for howls of derision.

And as I've said repeatedly, there is no worse guide to what a movie will be like than a trailer- If it is bad, then the marketing is shit, and how many times have you been taken in by a great trailer for a shit film?

What the fuck, Merrick?
by Professor Falcon
May 8th, 2008
09:49:58 AM
I can't believe you posted that. You should be ashamed of yourself. It's quite obvious ShogunMaster didn't see the movie.
If Indy 4 is closer to Crusade than Raiders...
by rbatty024
May 8th, 2008
09:52:06 AM
I think that would be acceptable. Nothing will beat Raiders and anyone going into a film expecting another Raiders will be disappointed. If they deliver another Crusade then I will be pleased.
Spielberg-ish
by Frankenbastard
May 8th, 2008
09:52:55 AM
I think Steven shoots his films way to fast now which would explain why ILM can’t keep up with quality FX for this one. Plus lets face it ILM isn’t the great FX house it used to be, their animators must be the worst (but they might just be following orders if you know what I mean) in the industry now. I don’t think Spielberg’s heart is into making films like this anymore and I can just see him directing like George does “Cut, that was fine, print it and move on!” It’s as if lately he’s trying to get as many films out as he can before he hangs it up and retires. Having said all that I can’t be negative about this film till I see it for myself, after all nothing could be as bad as Temple of Doom and don’t start saying “you know if you re-watch Temple of Doom now it isn’t that bad…yes, it is. My kid is 5 and a half and she’s pretty excited for Crystal Skull because she hasn’t been jaded yet by all the easily digestible bullshit that comes out now MSM
zom-bot
by Abominable Snowcone
May 8th, 2008
09:52:55 AM
Watch Raiders again. Check out the ID number on Jacque's plane. There's your Threepio reference.
after so many adventures it's hard to show tension
by frg10
May 8th, 2008
09:54:34 AM
We'll Boycott These Movies...
by Herb West
May 8th, 2008
09:54:38 AM
Like We All Should... We Can't Stand Any More Raped Childhoods! http://tinyurl.com/5u3wz8
Merrick is right.
by Uncapie
May 8th, 2008
09:54:44 AM
The trailer is good, but not exiting. Like the first time you geeks saw the "Star Wars" trailer. Most of you shit your Dr. Denton's! Yes, we all want the final installment of Indy to be great; but if it has the "Lucas" curse, it'll miss its mark. Should have gone with Darabont's script.
Ahhhh, of course, Obi-Wan's...
by rbatty024
May 8th, 2008
09:55:05 AM
Oh well, I knew it was a Star Wars character.
Jarv
by spud mcspud
May 8th, 2008
09:55:46 AM
Good point. As I remember, WATERWORLD looked quite interesting when I saw the trailer. And let's face it, the IRON MAN trailer is short on great action sequences... but the movie is superb.

In short, I anticipate the worst, but pray and hope that I am utterly, completely wrong. It happens, rarely :D

wait, wait, how about this idea for Indy V?
by cifra
May 8th, 2008
09:57:03 AM
Indiana Jones and the Return of the Living Dead Heroes? That would be a right idea, get Sam Raimi to direct and..
Did the beards have a cameo in originals?
by UKfilmfan
May 8th, 2008
09:58:28 AM
know Marshall did..and Kennedy.wot about Speilberg/lucas.Be interested to know if they are in KOCS?ill know when to boooo....
Spielberg is the best director alive
by CuervoJones
May 8th, 2008
09:58:44 AM
Screenwriting and directing are different things.
I'm GONNA have a good time with Indy
by Abominable Snowcone
May 8th, 2008
09:59:05 AM
and that's all I care about. Sure, I hope it's a great movie. But if it's not, so what? Of the first three, only the first is truly considered "great" anyway. But the others WERE FUN, and I'm sure this will be too. I ain't walking in expecting to have all my sins washed away or nothin'.
I'm gonna send Merrick MY review.
by crazyhorse2099
May 8th, 2008
09:59:07 AM

I didn't actually see the movie yet, but that no longer seems to be a prerequisite for getting "reviews" posted here.

Merrick, you're as ass.

"In short, I anticipate the worst"
by Trazadone
May 8th, 2008
09:59:09 AM
Why? Spielberg and Lucas have created some of the most beloved film properties in the history of cinema. It's so ridiculous that people take on this kind of attitude. Why anticipate the worst? I anticipate the best. Spielberg and Lucas have had many more hits than misses. I can deal with never seeing Episode 1 again but the other 2 prequels were a lot of fun.
Hey!!!
by Lloyd Bonafide the Korean War Veteran
May 8th, 2008
09:59:13 AM
you call him DR. Jones.
pack of idiots
by Wee Willie
May 8th, 2008
09:59:39 AM
The trailer doesn't show enough action? Aren't you the same bunch of morons who complain when a trailer shows all the good parts? Have some faith. The guy who wrote this is a troll.
Trailer
by Dude_gimme_tabs
May 8th, 2008
09:59:46 AM
The trailer was just cut completely differently to the trailers we are used to for action adventure movies these days. There is nothing at all wrong with it. It reflects the pulp sensibilities of the Indy series rather than the MTV sensibilities of, for example, Bad Boys or Mr & Mrs Smith.
Frankenbastard
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
May 8th, 2008
10:00:00 AM
You gotta be fucking shitting me if you think ILM is not still the best? Iron-Man CG was fucking flawless. You wanna compare that to Weta's latest-- Jumper and The Waterhorse.....or the look of Rhythm and Hues' work in Incredible Hulk? ILM still stomps on all other effects houses. The only reason fan-boys started brown-nosing Weta is because of LOTR, and other than Gollum-- a lot of that shit already looks weak. Jurassic Park? Still flawless.
Spielberg...
by mystic_dreamer
May 8th, 2008
10:00:03 AM
He likes to keep the cards tight to his chest. I am hoping that we are in for a big, romping, major surprise that gives us all the thrills we love an Indian Jones movie to give. Man, this ShogunMaster, with a penchant for Richard Chamberlain (think about his name), has really bummed me out. I wish I had never read that bloody piece of badly written prose.
merrick threw his kid under the bus
by zom-bot.com
May 8th, 2008
10:00:25 AM
without even trying. i know he's your kid and you love him and he probably surprises you in many ways on a daily basis, but don't bring in his opinion on the speed of an old franchise shot in a way he's not too used to seeing in his world of entertainment and use it to justify a hack review on your website. I think he probably needs to watch a few other classics before he gets hung up on speed keeping him from enjoying anything.

again, nothing personal toward your kid, they are all like that now. i don't read their reviews. they'd like it if indy's head opened up and a butterfly gun came out and he started shooting lazer butterflies at rock robots shia kept in his pocket.

AM I THE ONLY ONE??? (trailer thoughts)
by warsinthesun
May 8th, 2008
10:00:35 AM
I have been telling my friends from day one that they shouldn't be making another jones movie. Ford's too old and why spoil a series that, imo, was fucking awesome. Is there really anything else to say in this series?? Up until I saw the trailers I had no interest whatsoever in seeing a new jones film. That's right: the trailers fucking sold it for me. Especially the second one. How does one shot or scene in that trailer not looking fucking awesome?
If there is an Indy 5...
by Pizza The Hut
May 8th, 2008
10:01:53 AM
...one can only hope that it will be made relatively soon, and that John Williams will still be conducting. No more multi-year feet-dragging.
Man, Lost Jarv. You are really stupid.
by NoDiggity
May 8th, 2008
10:02:00 AM
The Chamberlain "King Solomon's Mines" came out one year after Indy. "Allan Quatermain and the City of Gold" came out one year after "Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom". Go ahead, be retarded for the sake of arguing. But know that you will be seen as the retard that you are because of your insistence.
Let "Hater-fest Summer '08" begin...
by oliveboy
May 8th, 2008
10:02:14 AM
WAH! WAH! WAH! It doesn't live up to my ridiculous expectations! They didn't use the script from my fanboy blog! You'll see it more than once in the theater and buy every edition of the dvd so, quit crying pussy! You're probably still pissed Lucas didn't restore the original Star Wars and give you a 7.1 remix of the sound. You're f-ing 40 years old!!Take your thumb out of your mouth! Jeez.
Abom, be sure to bring enough #2 pencils...
by just pillow talk
May 8th, 2008
10:02:23 AM
Stab any shitheels in the mouth who deter you from enjoying your Indy experience.
shit that was the
by Lloyd Bonafide the Korean War Veteran
May 8th, 2008
10:03:20 AM
most depressing review ever. If this is true....this sucks!!
I love the trailers for this!
by Trazadone
May 8th, 2008
10:03:33 AM
When that John Williams music kicks in I get goosebumps. There's tons of action in trailers and any complaints are baseless.
Oh there will be stabbings
by Abominable Snowcone
May 8th, 2008
10:04:21 AM
and perhaps my sins WILL be purged, who knows?
"dreaded"
by slone13
May 8th, 2008
10:04:52 AM
As Trazadone already asked, who was dreading this???
Once again- this isn't a properly submitted review
by Lost Jarv
May 8th, 2008
10:05:00 AM
The asshole posted it in the other TB.

It's just Talkbacker ranting and should be treated as such.

I've moved on to Bic pens..
by just pillow talk
May 8th, 2008
10:05:12 AM
I'm fucking hardcore now.
warsinthesun
by CuervoJones
May 8th, 2008
10:05:56 AM
You are not the only one, trust me.
the only reason anyone ever started slamming ILM.....
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
May 8th, 2008
10:05:58 AM
....was in retaliation to the prequels. And its not like that CG is bad, its just that there is too fucking much of it and Lucas gives his people ridiculous deadlines. He was changing major shit a month before release. ILM is still the best. And Spielberg and Lucas are bearded GODS!!
I'm going to pencil Jihad you diggers
by Lost Jarv
May 8th, 2008
10:08:28 AM
for being an infuriating misquoting pernickity little turd.

What I asked you was could you not concede the possiblility that Mr X and (>>>>) was a typical pulp title. Read Dannyglovers comment, he makes it sound like Quartermain (which he can't spell) is based on Indy.

I said nothing about release dates etc. If you want an Indy rip-off then I give you the Tom Selleck Vehicle (if the vehicle is a trabant) Quigly Down Under.

Danny - you're right about Iron Man CGI...
by just pillow talk
May 8th, 2008
10:08:30 AM
That was some good shit right there.

Oh, and Jarv, good to hear ya liked Iron Man.

Oh, and for Messi - Sinestro Corps forever!

Well, it'll still be better than that "Iron Man" garbage
by Rickey Henderson
May 8th, 2008
10:08:55 AM
Sorry, but it's way too early to trash a new Indy movie. You folks can continue to adore a souless & insipid comic book movie like Iron Man, but something with a bit of heart like Indy is far superior.
Lost Jarv, he SAID on the other Talkback that he'd submitted it.
by NoDiggity
May 8th, 2008
10:09:05 AM
Go back and read the other talkback. he said he's submitted it "to the kids" meaning to the guys on this si