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A French Score Review Of INDY 4 Is Now Available In English...With Sound Files (Sorta)!!

All we need is the Raiders march by Dwide Shrewd	May 7th, 2008 10:11:58 AM
Just fill the whole cd with that track, and I'll be good. Oh, and firsties, bitches.
reviewing a score without seeing the movie is like by mr.brownstone	May 7th, 2008 10:16:33 AM
reviewing a restaurant just by smelling the food.
first by hesky75	May 7th, 2008 10:17:11 AM

Qui-Gon by The Brains	May 7th, 2008 10:27:15 AM
dies.
I'm with Dwide Shrewd by slone13	May 7th, 2008 10:30:49 AM
What a truly classic bit of music. My fiance agreed to let it play as we walk down the aisle at the end of the wedding. She's come to terms with the fact that she's marrying a geek.
who cares about the score...is the movie any good? by Jett	May 7th, 2008 10:45:15 AM
score could be awesome, won't make up for a shitty movie
dum da dum dum... by Rickey Henderson	May 7th, 2008 10:48:46 AM
Who cares about the score?! Come on now, the score is what makes an Indy movie a freaking Indy movie. Hell, I'll pony up the $20 just to hear the Raiders march blasting out of the movie theater speakers again. And you're a cold hearted individual if you disagree. Dum da dum dum...
Music is important. by Aitrus233	May 7th, 2008 10:50:34 AM
It really does sometimes improve the movie. Try watching the original Star Wars Trilogy without music. A lot of the scenes lose their emotional impact.
not sayingthe score isn't important, but.. by Jett	May 7th, 2008 10:54:19 AM
seriously, its the movie and how it works with the score that matters, what i meant was that honestly i'll be pissed if the movie gets a great score and a shitty story or whatever, i'd rather take an awesome movie with a not so good score
No Brownstone. Reviewing the score without seeing the movie.... by SuperSneaky	May 7th, 2008 10:56:13 AM
....is just like reviewing the score. Which is what they did there.
Very well written review... by pendy16	May 7th, 2008 11:09:36 AM
Looking forward to hearing it/seeing the film!
SuperSneaky by mr.brownstone	May 7th, 2008 11:14:20 AM
no. it's like the other thing.
We've known this for a week by Proman1984	May 7th, 2008 11:18:13 AM

sounds fantastic by kwisatzhaderach	May 7th, 2008 11:19:11 AM
spielberg and williams show the punks how it should be done!
Midi's ......??? by Evil Hobbit	May 7th, 2008 11:19:22 AM
What a waste of bandwidth.
Er... something about Ants!!!!!! by alucardvsdracula	May 7th, 2008 11:24:10 AM
Unless my French translation had lied to me there's a spoiler about giant ants????? WTF.
Yup by slone13	May 7th, 2008 11:27:57 AM
Big ones. 4 or 5 inches each.
Man, I can't wait for this soundtrack. by IAmJack'sUserID	May 7th, 2008 11:37:15 AM
I just hope there aren't too many of the uppertone strings in this, like harps and things like that, which have unfortunately permeated a lot of recent Williams themes. Maybe I read the review badly as I just woke up, but it sounds like Williams lets the melody play out but without finality, like we hear 75% of the Raider's March theme and then it seques into another theme. I hope that isn't true. Oh if anyone is bored, I made a new fan trailer for Raiders. Plan on doing it for all 3 movies up unto Indy 4 comes out. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =wXvSi8xBWvQ
Bring John Williams back to Harry Potter! by performingmonkey	May 7th, 2008 11:40:20 AM
We've had two mediocre scores and another one likely to come. Willams needs to be brought back to Harry Potter for the final 2-part Deathly Hallows. It's amazing how the series has gone from the genius of Cuaron and Williams to two TV guys in the roles of director and composer.
Brownstone by SuperSneaky	May 7th, 2008 11:44:29 AM
I'm sorry you need so much extra stimulation to enjoy well written music properly. I'm guessing you can't enjoy songs properly either if you can't watch the music video at the same time? 'Tard.
Actual Score Samples at Amazon by Mission Code Z	May 7th, 2008 11:46:21 AM
http://tiny.cc/2afzh Sounds nice! : )
Amazon has the audio samples up by Tacom	May 7th, 2008 11:46:55 AM
I like hearing Marion's theme in the finale.
Yay, AICN, welcome to last week, by sapno_krei	May 7th, 2008 12:14:39 PM

Seriously Merrick.... by krish-0	May 7th, 2008 12:25:09 PM
What the fuck is up with the abbreviation you keep using for this film. IJATKOTCS? That's fucking stupid. Just call it Indy or Indy IV. We'll know what you mean. Jesus...
When's the torrent going to show like it did with ROTS? by Bono Luthor	May 7th, 2008 01:00:01 PM
I'll buy this baby as soon as I can. I wan't to buy it now!!! Damn you pesky release date!
Sometimes names of songs on OSTs can be spoilers by random dude	May 7th, 2008 01:06:52 PM
I fucking never check soundtracks before watching the actual movie. I learned the lesson with the Casino Royale score where there was a track called "Death of Vesper". Fuck this shit.
tis a wonderous time in life by BendersShinyAss	May 7th, 2008 01:09:23 PM
never forget the impact these men have on cinema and on us
krish-0 by Abominable Snowcone	May 7th, 2008 01:12:31 PM
I think Merrick's intention is to remind us just how absurdly long the title is, even in abbreviation. I'm sure he knows that saying "Indy 4" is easier. The track list does spoil a couple things. For instance, it ain't ants it's... I won't tell. But titles like, "Marion's Negligee," "Mutt Bites It," "Cunnilingus," "The Ark Versus The Skull," "Indy's Wire-Fu Bonanza" have me intrigued. Those are joke titles, BTW. Settle down, Beavis.
titles are spoilery by FleshMachine	May 7th, 2008 01:13:09 PM
1. Raiders March 2. Call of the Crystal 3. The Adventures of Mutt4. Irina's Theme 5. The Snake Pi6. The Spell of the Skull7. The Journey to Akator 8. A Whirl Through Academe 9. "Return"10. The Jungle Chase 11. Orellana's Cradle 12. Grave Robbers 13. Hidden Treasure and the City of Gold 14. Secret Doors and Scorpions 15. Oxley's Dilemma 16. Ants! 17. Temple Ruins and the Secret Revealed 18. The Departure 19. Finale
Ants! by MattmanReturns	May 7th, 2008 01:24:17 PM
I hope this is the scene where Indy and Shia are buried up to their heads in sand, and Indy has to kill the attacking ants with his chin. Meanwhile the ants swarm over Shia while he screams, "No no no no NO NO NO" and leave nothing but his gaping skull behind.
I no want no more til release by FILMFUNK	May 7th, 2008 01:28:38 PM
No thanks!
I loved that Phantom Menace track title......... by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD	May 7th, 2008 01:38:11 PM
.......QUI-GON'S DEATH SONG or whatever the fuck it was. FUCK ME!!
The review says..... by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD	May 7th, 2008 01:40:08 PM
...."What will perhaps be one of the last blockbuster scores in John Williams' career." Way to put Mr. Williams life-span on blast. Might as well have screamed out the window, "WATCH OUT-- THIS MOTHER-FUCKER IS ABOUT TO DROP!!" Fucking asshole French.
DGDB by Abominable Snowcone	May 7th, 2008 01:40:44 PM
I too learned of the death of Qui Gonn from the soundtrack, which came out a week or two before the movie. I wish they hadn't done that. Reminds me of that Casey Kasem bit they play on Stern with Casey going crazy about, "I told you NOT to play a godDAMN DEATH DEDICATION!!"
Can you imagine if... by Abominable Snowcone	May 7th, 2008 01:43:22 PM
The Empire Strikes Back soundtrack came out before the movie with a title like, "Luke, I Am Your Father" on it? Or "Han Gets Frozen?" How 'bout a Jedi soundtrack with songs like "You're My Sister" and "Yoda Death Jig."
"Han Gets Frozen?" by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD	May 7th, 2008 01:48:39 PM
That is bullshit. Why can't they make abstract titles like, "DANGER!" or "THE BEGINNING OF THE END" or shit like that?
DGDB by Abominable Snowcone	May 7th, 2008 01:54:46 PM
I was making a joke about the "Han Solo Frozen" track title--it didn't happen, but the "Qui Gon's Death" track on Phantom Menace was a reality, which spoiled the actual death in the movie for a lot of geeks like myself who had no reason to suspect he'd be killed off. Probably not a good idea, or at least kosher one, to allow your track titles to reflect major plot details. You know, details like "Indy Loses A Hand," "The Beheading of Marian," "Mola Ram Rises Again," and "The Ark Zaps the Skull Back to God."
Where is the Indy rilogy Reissue by Harry Bolzonnia	May 7th, 2008 02:19:31 PM
I mean Star Wars trilogy soundtrack has been reisued a million times. Where is the remastered Indy trilogy soundtrack with commemorative stickers. I mean Lucas if your reading this your going make MONEY!!!
titles are spoilery-flesh machine by Harry Bolzonnia	May 7th, 2008 02:21:26 PM
If they are, THEN WHY FUCKING POST THEM IN TALKBACK???
Abominable Snowcone by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD	May 7th, 2008 02:25:09 PM
I know you were kidding. And I too was fucking destroyed when I saw: track # 16: The High Council Meeting and Qui-Gon's Funeral FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK!!
there was a different version of the teaser by LarryTheCableGuy	May 7th, 2008 02:25:33 PM
on the other day, where indy has some rection like "come onnn!" or something.
It's out already? by ricarleite	May 7th, 2008 02:32:26 PM
I mean, John Williams recorded this not too long ago
Anybody hear the risque dialogue by Abominable Snowcone	May 7th, 2008 02:32:58 PM
occurring in the song samples? I clearly heard Indy saying, "Oooh yes, suck it...just like that...I've waited so long, Marioh..oh..ohohhhh..."
Track title spoilers by finky089	May 7th, 2008 02:37:13 PM
When naming the tracks for IJATKOTCS (that's for you, krish-o), they should have taken a cue from the Raiders score. Looking at it as if I had never seen the movie, it gives some hints about what APPEARS to be some general settings or movement of the story, but doesn't give anything specific away. "In the Idol's Temple" "The Basket Game" "The Map Room: Dawn" "Desert Chase" "The Miracle of the Ark" "Marion's Theme" These are all aptly named, but don't give much away. Hell, if anything, they actually underpromise on a few tracks that certaily would overdeliver, i.e. "The Desert Chase" (one of the BEST chase scores ever) and "Miracle of the Ark" (gives NOTHING away whatsoever about what you actually end up seeing in the film.) Titles like "Ants!" I'm sure are meant to be a clever nod to the 50's style titles of campy movies, and while it doesn't tell much about that scene specifically, you certainly didn't need a track in Radiers called "Why'd It Have To Be Snakes"? Or calling the Well of the Souls scene "Indy finds the Ark/But Gets Trapped/But Escapes!" Abom, there should have been a track called "Cunnilingus".
ricarleite by finky089	May 7th, 2008 02:38:10 PM
it comes out on May 20
want spoilers? by El Borak	May 7th, 2008 02:38:48 PM
spoiler................ 18. forced to cooperate with the russian invaders, indy uses gunpowder and shotgun pellets(along with his canny knowledge of magnetism) to lead spalko's crew to their objective: a crate containing a stainless-steel tank with a lid that slides open. inside within a silvery wrapping of some kind, is a very mysterious figure. ican't wait.
Abom, I heard it, but you're wrong by finky089	May 7th, 2008 02:39:45 PM
at the end he says "Mutt" not "Marion". That shows you just how much they fucked this one up, unfortunately. If you play it backwards and turn on the "echo" feature, you can clearly hear someone saying "Abner is Alive. Abner is Alive, Abner is Alive...."
By the way, IF Abner was still alive by finky089	May 7th, 2008 02:43:07 PM
and being played by John Hurt, wouldn't he be like 80 years old? The character Hurt plays certainly doesn't look that old. Haggard, yes. But 80, no. Just a random thought.
more spoilers by El Borak	May 7th, 2008 02:50:59 PM
big spoiler....... n o a b n e r
spoiler john hurt by El Borak	May 7th, 2008 02:53:24 PM
spoiler!!!!!!! see score track 15.
So, El Borak, that other spoiler I've heard seems true by finky089	May 7th, 2008 03:01:22 PM
if indeed Hurt plays "track 15" and not Abner. Makes more sense, at least.
So who the hell is Oxley / Hurt? by Abominable Snowcone	May 7th, 2008 03:01:33 PM
Is he Mutt's dad? For some reason, I wanna tie in some kind of familial relationship to Mutt (Shia) being involved in Indy's adventure at all. Because otherwise, why involve him? And is Mac secretly a commie? I guess I'm wondering out loud here--I don't expect any spoiler answers MARCUS DIES MARCUS DIES MARCUS DIES
I love John Williams by kuldan	May 7th, 2008 03:04:51 PM
The little bits they gave us of the new score sound good - mostly dark, with moments of Williams' whimsy, which everyone should love. "Grave Robbers" and "The Snake Pit" sound like the only real unique 'theme queues' so far, but we haven't heard the whole score yet. Including themes from Raiders and Last Crusade were nice touches, though.
What? by Abominable Snowcone	May 7th, 2008 03:08:12 PM
No "Scherezade for Jeep Chase With a Commie Dyke Along the Cliffside"? I'm disappointed. Sigh
What? by Abominable Snowcone	May 7th, 2008 03:10:51 PM
No "Back in Black"? Not even for the "Rocket Sled Ride to Hell?" I heard there's a part in the movie where a building catches on fire and Indy leaps from the roof with a fire hose tied around his waist
finky yeah by El Borak	May 7th, 2008 03:23:23 PM
hurt's role is the crystal skull expert. tht's his purpose.
The new themes on those midis sounded very weak. by CreasyBear	May 7th, 2008 03:24:51 PM
To me, JW will always be THE film composer, but aside from the Harry Potter theme, there hasn't been any powerful, memorable theme since Jurassic Park. Yeah, I know what some of you are thinking: "The music should augment the movie, not be the star of the show," but for so many classic scores, the JW themes were essential ingredients of the movies overall. A.I., Minority Report, War of the Worlds, none of those scores were particularly effective. After the guitary, rock-n-roll Iron Man soundtrack from Hans Zimmer (which was as lame as The Rock's score), I miss a great movie soundtrack even more. I hope JW hasn't lost it for good. (I gotta say, though, even The Last Crusade's score was pretty anemic, aside from the good ol' Raiders March.)
spoiler ahoy fink by El Borak	May 7th, 2008 03:29:08 PM
spoiler!!!!!!!!!!!! ox is the diving rod that will lead the russians to akator... but an interpreter is required. this would be indy, eventually forced to stare into the skull's deadly-dangerous hypnotic eyes... end spoiler ha ha ha ha !!!!!
I heard there's a part in Indy IV where by finky089	May 7th, 2008 03:29:42 PM
Indy fights a big soldier on the wing of a moving plane. The soldier gets sucked into the jet's wing engine, but not before the fuel starts leaking out of the wing. Then Indy gets knocked from the wing, but not before lighting the trail of leaking fuel and whispering "Yippekayay, muthafucka!" Just what I heard, though
SPOILER ALERT! by finky089	May 7th, 2008 03:31:19 PM
Spoiler Spoiler Spoiler Spoiler Spoiler Spoiler Indy will hypnotize Marion with a crystal skull, then use it as an assplug on her!!! End Spoiler End Spoiler End Spoiler End Spoiler End Spoiler
Crystal Skull = transmitter for speaking to Xenu by finky089	May 7th, 2008 03:32:07 PM
and it is within Indy's reach! =-0
Hey, gotham_night... by FlyingToupee	May 7th, 2008 04:03:12 PM
...is track 14 titled "Indy's noble end"?
"even The Last Crusade's score was pretty anemic, aside from the by togmeister	May 7th, 2008 04:32:41 PM
I can't agree with that. The Grail theme and the music for the Young Indy / tank chase are aces. That said, you have to go back a decade for the last truly great Williams score (Amistad, in my opinion). However it's interesting to note that Spielberg's movies in that time have become more somber and less dependent on the Williams scores for effect (Saving Private Ryan, for example, has hardly ANY score in it).
the real thing...almost by AllieJamison	May 7th, 2008 04:50:10 PM
Samples are up at amazon, folks!
What ?? by kuldan	May 7th, 2008 05:01:04 PM
Did someone just judge a John Williams score by listening to midi versions based on the notes of a track that he wrote? Try listening to the actual recording with a full-string orchestra, in place with the movie. Interesting what a difference that makes...
Did Amazon take the samples down? by Atticus Finch	May 7th, 2008 05:11:55 PM
I don't see them on the soundtrack page.
Samples still on Amazon. A part of "Map Room" cue by Tacom	May 7th, 2008 05:25:30 PM
from RAIDERS that can be heard on track 6 "The Spell of the Skull".
Link please! by Atticus Finch	May 7th, 2008 05:37:19 PM
For some reason the samples aren't showing up when I go to the page. What the fuck!?
This was translated over a week ago!!!!!! by Forestal	May 7th, 2008 05:39:18 PM
Once again AICN is on the ball with their up to the minute Indy coverage. Instead of posting an article about the new TV spots, web doc, and Amazon soundtrack samples - we get this piece of old news. Way to go, AICN!
by AllieJamison	May 7th, 2008 05:39:41 PM
http://tinyurl.com/6m9gcf
track 17.. bit like Voldemort's theme... by echobase	May 7th, 2008 06:28:13 PM
Have you noticed how the end of track 17 (Temple Ruins and the Secret Revealed) sounds a little bit like the voldermort's track from the first harry potter movie?...
CreasyBear... Midi by MattmanReturns	May 7th, 2008 06:29:14 PM
Yeah midi versions of Jurassic Park sound pretty weak too... cuz it's midi.
Listen to the real track here (no MIDI) by wadi77	May 7th, 2008 06:36:18 PM
http://tinyurl.com/6m9gcf PS : This is review and MIDI thing is very,very old news. Way to go AICN!
The ever-vigilant AllieJamison comes through again by finky089	May 7th, 2008 06:52:07 PM
Thanks for the tip off, AllieJ!
I wish John Titor and his replign machine were here by finky089	May 7th, 2008 06:54:00 PM
so he could tell us how indy IV will be viewed by Indyfans far into the future.
Download real track samples here (from Amazon.com) by wadi77	May 7th, 2008 07:21:27 PM
http://tinyurl.com/5m2kuy
The "Adventures of Mutt" sample from Amazon. by NoDiggity	May 7th, 2008 07:54:20 PM
http://tinyurl.com/43xhrt It makes me profoundly irritated. Music seems to say "Oh, Golly, how cute and funny Mutt is! Tiddly, diddly, Dinkums!"
THREE WORDS, AMAZON DOT COM by MattHooper	May 7th, 2008 08:06:19 PM
Amazon has samples of the actual score. Sounds terrific !
Warning about the Amazon Track list. They are SPOILERS. by NoDiggity	May 7th, 2008 08:34:10 PM
They practically lay out the structure of the film, and some of the events that occur.
finky089 by slone13	May 7th, 2008 09:11:14 PM
Love that John Titor story. Surprisingly only first heard of him about a year ago.
I just hope the music is ballsy. by Laserbrain	May 7th, 2008 10:15:07 PM
Crusade had a nice score but not very rousing. Well, for me anyway. And when are they going to release expanded editions of the sequel scores anyway? I've waited damn near twenny five years to own those hard core cues from Temple that never made the cut on the first CD. Say what you will about Doom but that score is one of the titans of Williams' catalog. Quite literally awesome.
Had a listen to the samples by Laserbrain	May 7th, 2008 10:59:19 PM
Sounds great! Save for a smidgeon of cutesy the score seems to have a lot of the classic Williams qualities going for it. Muscular, mysterious, jaunty, scary - very happy so far. It's an Indy score!
I saw the Movie earlier on today... by ShogunMaster	May 8th, 2008 12:16:04 AM
You're not going to like it. I posted a Review to the kids so hopefully they will post what I thought in detail, but it was NOT what we were hoping for from an Indy movie.
ShogunMaster... by critch	May 8th, 2008 12:31:30 AM
How about posting the review here instead of some cryptic "It sucks!"
wtf by playerking	May 8th, 2008 12:50:12 AM
If you think JW's score for last crusade has no merit besides the raiders march then you are a fucking idiot. Bitch out.
shogun master's review by playerking	May 8th, 2008 12:52:21 AM
Where did you see it? Your divorced parent's pretend basement? Give me a friggin break.
Here you go. Kinda long for a talkback though.. by ShogunMaster	May 8th, 2008 12:53:15 AM
Well, I haven't seen a review of this yet and having seen the movie this morning, I feel I'm as qualified as anyone to post a quick reaction to it. In short, this is the Indiana Movie that you were dreading. I remember seeing the two trailers and though I was excited to see the old man in action again, I was kind of worried that they seemed to be missing 'something'. That something was tension. During the whole of the movie, there was not a single moment that I thought our hero Mr. Jones (actually Colonel Jones as he was a hero in WWII now) was in any sort of peril or even significant inconvenience. In most cases, you were so many steps ahead of the characters that it was really just an arduous wait for them to get through it. Here we go with some Spoilers: Well, sadly the hopes of seeing Abner Ravenwood were unfounded. Though we do get to see the big Ark weilding warehouse again (it's Area 51 just incase you were unsure), the Ark is not the main object that they are there for (they do show it ofcourse; ya gots ta). LeBeef is ofcourse Indy's son. And other than quick references to Indy's Dad and Marcus (both dead) there isn't much to link with the the old stuff. The storyline is basically about an alien corpse from some crash in some town call Roswell, that has magnetic properties that may or may not be the ultimate weapon in the future. The Nazi's are replaced by the Soviets who are obviously bad and want said weapon to do bad things with. The alien corpse prize is replaced with the crystal skull from the corpse (the actual skeleton of aliens is crystaline, and the Crystal Skull is literally an alien's remains) and chases and such ensue as they try to figure out how to 'Return' the skull to the Lost City of Gold and let it's supernatural abilities run rampant. I found it funny that they mentioned the Lost City of Gold as it accidentally referenced the old Allen Quartermaine days (a crappy knockoff of Indy Movies incase you missed them) and this was very much similar in most respects. The big problem with the movie is that the traps or perilous moments are completely ass-inine and ridiculous. From a quicksand trap that Indy has time to yack on about, to being saved from said trap by LeBeef using a snake as a rope. BTW, this snake is as crappy as a Mad TV prop when they don't CG it up, and that is another failing of this movie. The fake stuff doesn't mix with the real stuff at all. In the opening scenes where they are outside of the warehouse and Indy is pulled out of the trunk of the car (you'll recall the previews), they go from a real outdoors set to a fake indoors soundstage (pretending to be still outside). The jungle chase in the duck amphibious vehicles (I wonder if those will go in water at one point or not?...) looks like the whole jungle was made of plastic. And then we go with the actual acting and characters. Well, everyone will be pleased to hear that LeBeef was horrible. He'd start crying about skeletal remains representing people that had died thousands of years ago (boohoo). Once Indy figures out Beef's heritage, he is non-stop complimentary towards every non-screwup thing he does (they would pause for mugs of adulation; just horrible). The Double Agent dude is comically horrible. Marion was actually really great when she was first introduced (about half way) and she and Indy have some good banter. But after that five minutes, she was sporting a big muggy smile as they continued on their adventure and she was never scared, worried, or nervous, even with the stupid moments that she tries to help (duck in a tree; you will cringe when you see it...). Cate Blanchett wasn't overly horrible, but her characters' abilities of psychic prowess were never successfully used and she whenever she caught Indy she was never really intimidating or bad. And then we have Indy himself. He has a few lines that work and a million that don't. He just never shows signs of worry or distress. Again, no Tension. He also has a weird tendancy to help the bad guys figure out the clues; never figured out why. Anyway, I don't want to rant on forever, as it doesn't matter what I say, you will see this movie regardless. And even though it's not as bad as Allan Quartermaine, it's definitely not a good Indy Movie. But for those of you that feel that the new Star Wars Movies robbed your childhood, expect some molestations from Uncles' George and Steven...
Here you go. Kinda long for a talkback though.. by ShogunMaster	May 8th, 2008 12:58:40 AM
Well, I haven't seen a review of this yet and having seen the movie this morning, I feel I'm as qualified as anyone to post a quick reaction to it. In short, this is the Indiana Movie that you were dreading. I remember seeing the two trailers and though I was excited to see the old man in action again, I was kind of worried that they seemed to be missing 'something'. That something was tension. During the whole of the movie, there was not a single moment that I thought our hero Mr. Jones (actually Colonel Jones as he was a hero in WWII now) was in any sort of peril or even significant inconvenience. In most cases, you were so many steps ahead of the characters that it was really just an arduous wait for them to get through it. Here we go with some Spoilers: Well, sadly the hopes of seeing Abner Ravenwood were unfounded. Though we do get to see the big Ark weilding warehouse again (it's Area 51 just incase you were unsure), the Ark is not the main object that they are there for (they do show it ofcourse; ya gots ta). LeBeef is ofcourse Indy's son. And other than quick references to Indy's Dad and Marcus (both dead) there isn't much to link with the the old stuff. The storyline is basically about an alien corpse from some crash in some town call Roswell, that has magnetic properties that may or may not be the ultimate weapon in the future. The Nazi's are replaced by the Soviets who are obviously bad and want said weapon to do bad things with. The alien corpse prize is replaced with the crystal skull from the corpse (the actual skeleton of aliens is crystaline, and the Crystal Skull is literally an alien's remains) and chases and such ensue as they try to figure out how to 'Return' the skull to the Lost City of Gold and let it's supernatural abilities run rampant. I found it funny that they mentioned the Lost City of Gold as it accidentally referenced the old Allen Quartermaine days (a crappy knockoff of Indy Movies incase you missed them) and this was very much similar in most respects. The big problem with the movie is that the traps or perilous moments are completely ass-inine and ridiculous. From a quicksand trap that Indy has time to yack on about, to being saved from said trap by LeBeef using a snake as a rope. BTW, this snake is as crappy as a Mad TV prop when they don't CG it up, and that is another failing of this movie. The fake stuff doesn't mix with the real stuff at all. In the opening scenes where they are outside of the warehouse and Indy is pulled out of the trunk of the car (you'll recall the previews), they go from a real outdoors set to a fake indoors soundstage (pretending to be still outside). The jungle chase in the duck amphibious vehicles (I wonder if those will go in water at one point or not?...) looks like the whole jungle was made of plastic. And then we go with the actual acting and characters. Well, everyone will be pleased to hear that LeBeef was horrible. He'd start crying about skeletal remains representing people that had died thousands of years ago (boohoo). Once Indy figures out Beef's heritage, he is non-stop complimentary towards every non-screwup thing he does (they would pause for mugs of adulation; just horrible). The Double Agent dude is comically horrible. Marion was actually really great when she was first introduced (about half way) and she and Indy have some good banter. But after that five minutes, she was sporting a big muggy smile as they continued on their adventure and she was never scared, worried, or nervous, even with the stupid moments that she tries to help (duck in a tree; you will cringe when you see it...). Cate Blanchett wasn't overly horrible, but her characters' abilities of psychic prowess were never successfully used and she whenever she caught Indy she was never really intimidating or bad. And then we have Indy himself. He has a few lines that work and a million that don't. He just never shows signs of worry or distress. Again, no Tension. He also has a weird tendancy to help the bad guys figure out the clues; never figured out why. Anyway, I don't want to rant on forever, as it doesn't matter what I say, you will see this movie regardless. And even though it's not as bad as Allan Quartermaine, it's definitely not a good Indy Movie. But for those of you that feel that the new Star Wars Movies robbed your childhood, expect some molestations from Uncles' George and Steven...
shogun master is full of shit by playerking	May 8th, 2008 12:59:00 AM
YOU ARE FULL OF SHIT, troll! AHAHAHAHHAH!
Sorry by ShogunMaster	May 8th, 2008 01:03:19 AM
about the repeat posts. I'm using my pda phone. I saw it at an industry screening. If you want I can answer some specifics about it that I didn't mention in the review.
You can't knock any of the indy scores by BendersShinyAss	May 8th, 2008 01:11:05 AM
Raiders has such a dirty sound, but damn it works. temple shows just how masterful williams is at scoring his own sequel scores (this is why i hate it when new composers are brought in to rework his scores) last crusade was a solid film and it was a solid score. I have little doubt this film will deliver
shogunmaster by BendersShinyAss	May 8th, 2008 01:13:22 AM
there is a difference between reviewing a film and describing everything that happens in it with your brazen disaproval You've actually been a tool today. you should be banned
BendersShinyAss by ShogunMaster	May 8th, 2008 01:24:05 AM
I have some good news for you, I only gave some spoilers that get you midway through the film. And though the editing here sucks, I did warn where the spoilers started so blame yourself for reading beyond the warnings. But ya, it's over 2 hours long (2'20 if I recall) and there are more surprises for you. Hell that warehouse stuff was all within the first 5 minutes! You guys wanted the review so there it is. Don't get pissed off at me just because the movie sucked. I wanted to like it too...
Shogun Master by Laserbrain	May 8th, 2008 01:28:34 AM
Thanks for your thoughts. I really hope you're wrong but I'll take those expectations down a notch. Cheers.
Hope it's good! by RickyShoreSingsTheBlues	May 8th, 2008 01:38:04 AM
check out RICKY SHORE SINGS THE BLUES
Laserbrain by ShogunMaster	May 8th, 2008 01:39:03 AM
Thanks. I hope you like it more than I did. Cheers.
Laserbrain YOUR LYING by bill45	May 8th, 2008 02:00:36 AM
Laserbrain didn't see the movie. Only a select few did!When I meen a sleck few I mean you could count the number on your hand.No Laserbrain, you read the official movie trading cards!If you don't like the movie say it! If you haven't seen the movie then JUST SHUT THE HELL UP!Its that easy! I mean why even lye about it? You have a week and a half then you can bash to your hearts delight.
Bill45 by Laserbrain	May 8th, 2008 02:31:32 AM
Slow down and read who's posted what, will you? Shogunmaster posted the review. And I think he might have done so to try and cool our expectations, which, if he's legit, should be respected.
Shogunmaster by Lost Jarv	May 8th, 2008 02:44:56 AM
You are aware that Quatermain is from a book called King Solomon's Mines that was was written about 100 years before Indy, aren't you? If this is true you represent an awful lot that is wrong with "the Industry" in that you only recognise references from your generation, and this may also coincidentally explain the remake fetish, viz you are unaware of the existance of other stuff.
Well, There it is! by NoDiggity	May 8th, 2008 03:02:58 AM
That last great trailer lied.
Uhhhh... guys... by TheRealMoriarty	May 8th, 2008 03:30:54 AM
... the film did in fact screen today for theater chain bookers on the east coast, and it'll screen tomorrow for bookers on the west coast. And this is not the only negative feedback I've heard from people who saw it today. Word's sort of venomous so far. One guy I talked to said it was "lazier than THE LOST WORLD." Just sayin'...
Let's not panic just yet. by Bono Luthor	May 8th, 2008 03:43:59 AM
I was kind of concerned about the way the "I don't think he plans that far ahead" line was delivered in the trailer. It seemed too "Ooh, this is jolly fun" to create any sense of real danger but then again the Indy films are not Ken Loach when it comes to realism are they? I think if we don't expect the re-invention of the wheel and just look forward to seeing Indy on the big screen in a new adventure it'll be fine... Fingers crossed very tight!
Spielberg and John Williams must live forever by CuervoJones	May 8th, 2008 04:17:54 AM
Please, God, don´t be an asshole and never kill them.
I'm hoping it'll be 1977 again... by wadi77	May 8th, 2008 04:25:07 AM
Star Wars was trashed in early screenings. Let's hope the reviews will be different when this movie opens.
For goodness sake... by digginjim	May 8th, 2008 04:43:29 AM
A few comments to make.. The score samples sound ok, but not great... but I'm sure in the same way as the original ST albums this is unlikely to be the complete score. I'll wait for the box set. Williams is still one of the best score composers out there. For my money I agree with the earlier poster that ToD is the best Indy score and one of Williams all time best. As for the c**t who posted the negative review, we really didn't need that. Those of us who enjoy these types of films will no doubt enjoy Crystal Skull, it can't be like the originals - we're all older as are Spielberg and Lucas who are way beyond their prime as popcorn fun film makers - and the industry has moved on a lot since the 80's. just my two cents. I hope I won't have to burn my Indy stuff like Tim in Spaced did when the Phantom Menace came out...
venomous by AllieJamison	May 8th, 2008 04:49:41 AM
Uhm...this is gonna be ...interesting.
Star Wars was never trashed in early screenings. by NoDiggity	May 8th, 2008 04:50:44 AM
The finished films opened narrow, and were overnight sensations with people lining up around blocks.
Early screenings by wadi77	May 8th, 2008 04:59:43 AM
are for those in the industry, not the general public. There were no people lining up around the blocks.
Say it isn't so.... by mystic_dreamer	May 8th, 2008 05:05:53 AM
PLEASE say that the film is not going to be a rape of my childhood. Can it be as bad as that guy above says? OH, NO!!!!
A lot of people would love to see this film fall on its arse... by Bono Luthor	May 8th, 2008 05:07:42 AM
and that's sad.
by AllieJamison	May 8th, 2008 05:08:19 AM
Hey finky, never cast that John Titor spell on the talkbacks again, alright!? Hehehe... "Lazier than Lost World"...that's a strong thing to say. I've always thought this film will polarize geeks ...but to achieve that some people actually have to like it I guess.
Indeed they do.. by mystic_dreamer	May 8th, 2008 05:10:29 AM
but I don't. I must admit that I am getting very nervous about whether it's going to deliver as we all hope.
Indy can´t be bad. SHUT UP! by CuervoJones	May 8th, 2008 05:13:56 AM
I´m gonna like the movie even if i hate it!
Indy Is Still Alive @93 In Young Indy TV by genrefanboy	May 8th, 2008 05:27:17 AM
Everyone knows that in the Young Indy TV Series he is still around when he is 93 so how can you possible expect him to not make it through this movie when you already know this. Also in the other 3 movies he is never in any real peril either so that part of your review sucks anyway. The fun of these movies is seeing how he gets by not if. The true fans will see this anyway regardless as they are only meant to be 1930-1940s serial B-movies and this sounds like it is so bring it on already.
Xiphos, what did you just prove? by NoDiggity	May 8th, 2008 05:34:04 AM
He was talking specifically about "Quatermaine and the Lost City of Gold", which did come out after Raiders, to cash in on the success of Raiders, and as far as I know had nothing much to do with the original stories by H. Rider Haggard. "City of Gold" was a sequel to an adaption of Haggard's "King Solomon's Mines", but had nothing to do with any story H. Rider Haggard wrote. The literary sequel to "King Solomon's Mines" was "She". But you knew that, right?
In fact, both "King Solomon's Mines" and "City of Gold" ... by NoDiggity	May 8th, 2008 05:36:22 AM
... were made to cash in on Raiders' success. That the first cash in was based on a book has NOTHING TO DO with that, and "City of Gold" wasn't even based on a book. What a bunch of illiterate losers.
Xiphos and Lost Jarv. Two Illiterate Losers. by NoDiggity	May 8th, 2008 05:37:49 AM
Who think they are clever.
erm Nodiggity by Lost Jarv	May 8th, 2008 06:02:46 AM
what the fuck are you talking about? Even by your dismally low standards that is fucking stupid. The character Alan Quatermain was written by Haggard in the 19th Century. And as for "losers" that is fucking priceless, considering the person slinging the accusation around is mr "Newt=Jones" and the King of Millinery. Twat. Do you want to tell me agin why Bishop+Burke=Ash? I could do with a laugh. Or how about how Indy is "too pulpy"?
"King Solomon's Mines" written to cash in on Indy? by Lost Jarv	May 8th, 2008 06:06:27 AM
You imbecile. Are you telling me that Haggard had such a fucking gift for prophecy he could predict the plot of a pulp cinema character produced at the arse end of the 20th Century? You don't happen to know if he wrote down what the weather would be this weekend, do you? I don't know about City of Gold, though- although if it has the character Quatermain in it I will take a fucking large bet that it does have something to do with King Solomon's mines. And I have read She, thanks.
Lost Jarv, are you claiming that just because a movie is based o by NoDiggity	May 8th, 2008 06:07:25 AM
... that it can't be made into a movie to cash in on the success of another similar Adventure movie? You really are a retard.
Lost Jarv, MADE not WRITTEN. by NoDiggity	May 8th, 2008 06:09:40 AM
I was talking about the movies, not the books. Of course, a trolling shit like you knew that, you just are backpedalling like a motherfucker to cover your stupid, retarded mistake. Movies are not books, and Movies get made to cash in on the success of other movies, EVEN IF THE CASH-IN IS BASED ON BOOKS THAT PREDATE BOTH.
Shogun Master's review by IndiAbbey Jones	May 8th, 2008 06:11:49 AM
Is an accurate blow by blow of the plot - and I anticipate that the switch from Religous~Mystical Artifact to Mysterious~Scientific Artifact WILL be a deal breaker for a lot of people.. But the plot has been leaked already and that REVIEW could be faked - I could type one up right now, mentioning spoilers that he hasn't (INDY MEET MEERKAT)and make it all positive... But even if it is real it is only his OPINION. Just because he says that Shia is whiny doesn't mean any of the millions who see the fim will agree with him. And as for looking cheap - going by the TV spots alone this looks like the biggest, best looking Jones adventure yet. I'm reserving judgement until May 22nd.
"Allen Quatermain and the Lost City .." = "Indiana Jones and the by NoDiggity	May 8th, 2008 06:16:16 AM
They were deliberately trying to ape the title of "Indiant Jones and the" with their "Allen Quatermain and the ...".
Another review by wadi77	May 8th, 2008 06:26:09 AM
Posted at another board: "Now i don't post many comment's on here as you can see..but beleieve me when i say this is a 5 star film saw this movie yesterday at a screening in New York(now doubt a few other posts will be else where about this screening... it was a comp in a Dr Pepper competition) there was few press there.Etc..No spoilers but very much like Crusade first half then when it gets to South America it turns into raiders..I'm no movie reviewer as you can tell by my post but it reminded of seeinng Jurasic park the first time ..just brilliant!!!.sorry about the spelling mistakes just got from Manchester Airport and knackered!! ...oh by the way Winston is superb."
Showgun's a moron by theamazingpoet	May 8th, 2008 06:29:58 AM
I don't normally do these, but in this case I must. I'm senior management for, shall we say, a film company in the uk, and got to see the movie last night. I've always been a fan of Indy, and looked forward to this film with caution. No spoilers. No plant. Showgun is talking s***. Thank me in a fortnight. The film rocks. It constantly looks stunning. It rattles along at good pace. Ford AND Shia are amazing. Marion does mug a bit, but I barely noticed. YOU WILL ALL LIKE THIS FILM...A LOT!!!!Think raiders/doom and you won't go far wrong!
by mystic_dreamer	May 8th, 2008 06:30:33 AM
That's what I like to hear...
No I'm not look at what I wrote by Lost Jarv	May 8th, 2008 06:31:30 AM
and actually try to understand for a fucking change- I wrote that "Quatermain is from a book", then when I slapped you down I pointed out that KSM was written a long time before you and the character was already established. Remove your "cock" filter and apply your brain. I know this may be a challenge, but you do seem to have some sort of rudimentary intelligence. To date there have been at least 5 films of KSM and lord alone knows how many TV versions. You, sir, are a cunt and a troll with some of the most pathetic, stupid, pointy-domed beliefs that I have ever heard. If anyone is splitting hairs it is you. Now, once again "Newt=Jones"
theamazingpoet by Lost Jarv	May 8th, 2008 06:32:21 AM
Do you need any plants? I work cheap
Allan Quaterman by Samson_K	May 8th, 2008 06:33:13 AM
Does predate Indy - in both cinematic and literary forms. Allan Quartermain and the Lost City of Gold is an incredibly loose adaptation of the sequel to King Solomon's Mines which was called Allan Quarterman. The book she has nothing to do with Quatermain's saga - which has about 8 or 9 books - one of which is Quatermain and She. However the crappt Richard Chamberlain films that were made were indeed Indy knock-offs. So everyone is right! Isn't life sweet!
shit, never mind, by Lost Jarv	May 8th, 2008 06:33:26 AM
I'll never win this. Reason being- it's a negative review and the cunt has been waiting for one for ages. He'd fuck the corpse of his mother if Satan promised him that this was true
I think I'll wait for a professional review before... by rbatty024	May 8th, 2008 06:35:12 AM
I get worried. You can scan through this talkback and any previous ones about Indy4 and see that certain people have their mind made up. I'll wait for a somewhat objective opinion. I'm guessing it will get better reviews than Speed Racer, which, after reaching 45% on the tomatometer yesterday dropped back down to 29%. Oh, well. I'll still probably go and see it.
Mori? by Samson_K	May 8th, 2008 06:35:28 AM
You sauy you've heard some negative stuff about Indy IV, have you heard positive stuff? I'm noy unduly worried about negative reaction as such - I often don't agree with populace viewpoints - never could see the Shia Witch Hunt that goes on. It would be nice to know that it's not all one sided though
Lost Jarv, I did hold out hope ... by NoDiggity	May 8th, 2008 06:37:40 AM
... but it was a little dashed when I saw it in the theater before IRON MAN, and the trailer didn't seem as good anymore. This review above confirms my worst fears, and confirms that the elements that bothered me in all the stills and trailers do in fact exist in full blown badness in the film itself.
Uh-huh by Lost Jarv	May 8th, 2008 06:42:35 AM
so the months of posts saying that Spielberg was a cretin and this was certain to be shit were just an aberration for the 2 vaguely positive posts you put up. On a different note, I saw Iron Man at the weekend and was surprised to find that I liked it- mostly because I liked RDJ as Tony Stark. I'd say it is the Superhero film I enjoyed the most since fuck knows when. Doomsday (finally) this weekend. I can't fucking wait, as I've been wanting to see it for ages.
Lost Jarv by theamazingpoet	May 8th, 2008 06:43:07 AM
Post me your c.v!!! Seriously guys, I know all this good vs bad talkback always happens, but I giggled like a child! Even my boss liked it, and he was riding it ever since it was announced! The weirdest thing, was how harrison looks firewall old at the start, and then looks like crusade was a year ago midway onwards....Maybe they botoxed him halfway through or he just got fitter as they filmed it? He can still handle himself though.
That "Lost World" comment is worrying by Lost Jarv	May 8th, 2008 06:43:39 AM
as that is one of the worst films I've ever seen. Did he mean that a 9 year old girl (or whatever) manges to kick a dinosaur through a window using the power of gymnastics in this as well?
Open Minds by Samson_K	May 8th, 2008 06:45:21 AM
Can I ask - is going to see a movie with an open mind not a better attitude that completely having a film mentally ruined? This is not really based on anyone here but just on talkbacks in general. It's promoted here by some of the headlines which can be a bit pander mongering but Indy IV has been a long time coming - I'm excited, I have doubts but until I see the full thing for myself then I'll not know whether my doubts or my hopes have been realised.
Yippee! by Lost Jarv	May 8th, 2008 06:45:57 AM
Better go and write it: Qualifications: AICN pedigree, Green Leaves, Job History: Spent Last 5 years Growing in B&Q, but before that was highly acclaimed seed in Lancaster Homebase Personal Interests: photosynthesis, growing, Sunlight. References: Tommy Tomato, 1 Vegetable rack, Camden Market, INverness St, London.
Samson by Lost Jarv	May 8th, 2008 06:48:46 AM
ask Nodiggity. His mind has been as closed as Mother Theresa's legs since this was announced
Lost Jarv by theamazingpoet	May 8th, 2008 06:49:20 AM
Sounds good mate! Are you adverse to sleeping in a sack of manure, and mixing with herbs?
No, I've just been repotted outside by Lost Jarv	May 8th, 2008 06:54:18 AM
now it's turned sunny.
MMMMMM....24 DEGREES FRESH........ by theamazingpoet	May 8th, 2008 07:02:13 AM
I'm off to mow my lawn! Enjoy squabbling!!! 14 days, then it's here. I'll definitely be watching it again. I agree with wadi77 about the jurassic feeling. Ta ta!!!
The "Lost World" comment has me less worried. by rbatty024	May 8th, 2008 07:06:14 AM
I don't think anything can be as awful as The Lost World. That's hyperbole if I've ever seen it, and it impugns the opinion of whoever said it. I will accept the possibility that Indy 4 is a bad movie, but I will not accept the possibility that it's worst than The Lost World. I was against this project from the beginning because I didn't want them to ruin a great trilogy. However when I realized how exciting it could be to see Indy on screen again, I was quickly won over. I'm still really excited.
Samson is correct by Abominable Snowcone	May 8th, 2008 07:13:19 AM
I mentioned it in a previous (but recent) Indy TB--Allan Quartermain predates Indy by at least 100 years, at least in fiction. But he was hardly the swashbuckling, good-lookin' hero that Ford is. He was a gnarly hunter, and would look more like the hunter from Jumanji than anything else. The Richard Chamberlain movies brought Quartermain to the big screen, but were indeed Indy knockoffs (Sharon Stone was in those, but I never saw 'em. Doubt she was nekkid)
Quatermain - the Cannon Years by Samson_K	May 8th, 2008 07:19:26 AM
Assuming that because this character was like Indy in these films he's like that in the books is like assuming you're going to read Bram Stokers Dracula and find that he's genetically manufacturing a strain of Bubonic Plague to wipe out mankind as he did in 'The Satanic Rites of Dracula'. As Abominable Snowcone mentions he is a typically British, old, colonial Hunter. The Lost World has some shitty moments but the dinosaur hunt is fantastic - and it has a good Williams score!
Ar least its not as bad as TPM... by TheBoyFromUlster	May 8th, 2008 07:26:37 AM
I remember Lucas keeeping the story(sic) under really tight wraps and then about a month before release I wondered into Woolworths and seen the soundtrack...I picked it up and there on the back was basically the entire fucking outline of the film!....I remember seeing the track, Qui Gons funeral and then sitting in the cinema waiting for him to die....
I think perhaps by Abominable Snowcone	May 8th, 2008 07:37:09 AM
they release soundtracks like Indy and TPM before the movies specifically because they KNOW they'll sell copies to fanboys who simply want some plot clues like that. Sure, they could wait until the movie is out, but then they'll lose sales from that segment of casual fanboy who were only buying the soundtrack for a "plot outline." Especially nowadays, when after a film is open, you can almost always download the music via torrent.
The Sixth Sense score - Final Track Listing by Samson_K	May 8th, 2008 07:42:01 AM
Malcolm is Dead!
It might suck.... by matalo	May 8th, 2008 08:04:43 AM
but I will still be there on 5-22 with fingers crossed. I am OUT on Speed Racer. July cannot come soon enough for me though.
Will this movie rape my childhood? by Pizza The Hut	May 8th, 2008 08:52:15 AM
Boy, I hope so... I could use a good rape... as long as I'm raped by a woman. ----- Seriously though, I could care less if it's not the perfect Indy movie. Raiders will always be the perfect Indy movie. Even if it's not great, I will still have a good time, and not regret having shelled out the $100 or whatever it costs now to see a movie ($200 if you count popcorn and a Coke).
after the nap.. by ShogunMaster	May 8th, 2008 09:37:29 AM
So I'm back. So ya, to the kids that were saying Alan Quartermaine predates Indy Movies, I wasn't comparing the literary works, just the crappy movies. To save some worries, the new movie isn't THAT bad, but if you were hoping for a perfect bookend to the series, this is not it. My reference to the Quartermaine movies was more about the zany filler action sequences that come along (think the big spider in the cave scene from Quartermaine ; if you haven't rippeed that from your memory). And the way they get past the 'difficulties' is more implausible than the situations (again, keep your eyes on the duck). Indy movies have always had that, but somehow it looked like a solution that could have worked. Anyway, the kids above with the positive reviews (though they did't say anything that sounds like they'd really seen it) may have enjoyed it, but I'd hope that people would lower their expectations first. I wasn't hoping for Shakespeare, myself, but I was hoping for more than that.
SuperSneaky by mr.brownstone	May 8th, 2008 09:45:10 AM
Wow, that's a lot of venom for a little joke I made.
ShogunMaster, they have posted your review in it's own thread. by NoDiggity	May 8th, 2008 09:45:46 AM
A new one. Check out the front page.
ShogunMaster what were other reactions in the room? by finky089	May 8th, 2008 10:40:16 AM

Ya I saw it posted.. by ShogunMaster	May 8th, 2008 10:49:16 AM
I took me awhile to get through all the talkback there. There was probably abou 12-15 people watching it with me. As we were leaving a guy from Paramount asked what we thought about it and the best I heard was 'it was ok'. But as we were leaving the theatre, people started were a little more open with their complaints.
At least the suits by Abominable Snowcone	May 8th, 2008 11:16:24 AM
are still smart enough to care what people think. They DO give a crap and want to know, so they can decide how they're gonna spin it.
Shogun you are full of shit.... by jones1899	May 8th, 2008 11:24:36 AM
EVERYTHING you wrote in your review can be seen in the trading cards, pics, books etc that have been released already in various stores across the country and online. Nice try, but you're obviously just starved for attention. Pathetic.
Jones, I haven't heard anything in any leaks about .... by NoDiggity	May 8th, 2008 11:26:31 AM
... ducks.
I hope the amazingpoet is right by FlyingToupee	May 8th, 2008 12:45:49 PM
Because I really want this movie to be good.
It's a masterpiece by theplant	May 8th, 2008 12:47:18 PM
I'm sure this movie is going to rock and will be a nice addition to the original trilogy. Only 10 days to go...
MORIARTY... proof this is fake by MattmanReturns	May 8th, 2008 01:16:10 PM
So it screened today? Shogun posted this review in the Indy 4 score talkback YESTERDAY.
Mattman by finky089	May 8th, 2008 03:24:05 PM
supposedly it screened for East Coast folks yesterday and West Coast today...according to Mori
For those that think I'm making it up.. by ShogunMaster	May 8th, 2008 06:15:01 PM
I've actually posted my offical Paramount invite to Merrick. It was a Trade screening yesterday in the morning. Yes I have seen this, yes that was my review, and yes, it wasn't good. Sorry.

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