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Bill Paxton
by _SnakePlissken_
May 7th, 2008
05:59:51 AM
check out his band on youtube, Martini Ranch.. fucken awsome
The Car!!
by BanAllFIRSTPosters
May 7th, 2008
06:00:34 AM
I had forgotten that one. It was pretty fucking scary when I was a young lad.
So I'm guessing...
by The Guy Who Slept Through Everything.
May 7th, 2008
06:07:20 AM
Teeth is the porn of the week? in a sick, pussy bites cock off fedish kind of way.
MST3000 FINALLY
by SamDonovan
May 7th, 2008
06:26:14 AM
I can't believe they're finally re-releasing the Mystery Science Theater 3000 movie on DVD! Copies of the last print were somewhere in the neighborhood of $80 bucks. Yeah, they had to slow down some of the jokes, but come on! Best pick of the week by far. By FAR.
Harry... good Bollywood films to start with?
by beastie
May 7th, 2008
06:29:54 AM
I don't know where to start with Bollywood films. I am interested, but don't know any directors or actors or anything. Also, if anyone could give me a list of Bollywood films that would be a good start, please start with ones that I might be able to find at Blockbuster. Once I'm into them and fully interested, then I can go searching others out.
nice update, but what a crap week
by Jett
May 7th, 2008
06:49:18 AM
not really anything i'd like to see, perhaps i'll download teeth, but thats about it, also don't buy the indy films next week, they are just a cash in for the new film and we know for a fact the blurays will be out by year end

if you never bought the box set a few years ago then go for it, but if you already have that set double dip be ware

Wow you are actually defending the "films" of MST3K?
by Charles_Corkey_Thatcher
May 7th, 2008
06:51:09 AM
This Island Earth was classic 50's Sci-Fi, but it is also goofy as hell. The weren't mean to the film, they just poked some fun at its weaker points. Seriously where is the harm in that. It's like you want to dry hump every movie that ever existed when, in reality, 90% of the movies made actually suck. If you have convinced yourself otherwise that's fine, but don't take it out on a show that was actually high quality. It makes you look silly.
Oh Harold...
by indiebum
May 7th, 2008
06:51:29 AM
I think you would be doing a very good service by laying off of MST3k after this post. I'm glad you've defended your dislike a little more tastefully this time rather than the last time in which you lit the fire under a mass of gaseous ubernerds. I love "This Island Earth," and have a VHS copy of both the Mystied version and the original. I love both.
The Car
by MRJONZ72
May 7th, 2008
06:57:31 AM
For the most part I can only remember the movie Vaguelly, I probably havent seen this thing arond 23-25 years..but what I do remember is that one of my childhood crushes Kim Richards (much cuter and talented than her famours niece) was in it.. Bring on The Witch Moutain Remake (yes I know she was in Black Snake Moan)
Bravestarr!
by kafka07
May 7th, 2008
06:58:52 AM
ten times better than He-Man!...um it helps if you're baked. Devil Times Five is very low budget but pretty decent direction, and very twisted machinating little kids! I partly agree about what you said about MST3K, but without it I wouldn't have been exposed to a to a lot of great films. I prefer the days of Joel instead of Mike, and the MST3K movie sucked.
If you were 11 in 1957...
by tonagan
May 7th, 2008
07:04:30 AM
You'd be about 62 years old now. Think about it that way.
The Hottie and the Nottie
by photoboy
May 7th, 2008
07:08:24 AM
Shit Harry, I thought you were recommending the film for a second there. I'd rather stick my dick in a vagina dentata than Paris Hilton's diseased crotch.
The German MST3
by DerLanghaarige
May 7th, 2008
07:10:16 AM
Fuck the Enterbutton
by DerLanghaarige
May 7th, 2008
07:10:34 AM
I mean: The German MST3K:The Movie DVD has...
by DerLanghaarige
May 7th, 2008
07:11:34 AM
...This Island Earth in its uncommented form as bonus feature. I think that was a great idea. Got no idea if the US DVD hast the same.
The Car is fucked up
by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks
May 7th, 2008
07:22:33 AM
That movie along with Demons was the ultimate stuff of nightmares for this kid.
THE CAR? A re-release worth waiting for
by Mr Incredible
May 7th, 2008
07:29:58 AM
Although, I wouldn't be surprised when Hollywood tries to remake this, too. Watch for it.
Wow, I had forgotten about The Car..
by Ironmuskrat
May 7th, 2008
07:56:11 AM
That movie completely freaked me out as a kid. A pretty good cast and they played it completely straight. A movie about a killer demon car could have been just another cheesy monster movie but it really worked for me .

The scene where the cops think they are the ones chasing the car and find out too late that they are the ones being hunted was pretty scary. But the part of the movie that really freaked me out however was the car blowing right though a house to kill a women without even stopping or slowing down destroyed any sense of safety I had watching the movie in my living room at the time.

The Car fucked me up for life.
by Knuckleduster
May 7th, 2008
08:08:02 AM
And now, Teeth will probably do the same and make me wish I was gay.
Bollywood
by ziplock
May 7th, 2008
08:08:30 AM
Please whatever you do, don't start your Bollywood experience with Saawariya! there are far better movies bollywood has made Try and watch Taare Zameen Par or Rang De Basanti , some of the better films to come out of bollywood in recent years...
Anton La Vey was a 'technical advisor' on The Car!
by Knuckleduster
May 7th, 2008
08:11:01 AM
That's some funny shit, man.
The cover of Teeth makes it look like...
by rbatty024
May 7th, 2008
08:17:35 AM
a teen sex comedy. What wacky hijinks will her vagina dentata get into this time? Will the high school principal expel her for castrating him? Not if she gets a 1600 on the SATs!
Oh yes Harry.
by BrandonGK
May 7th, 2008
08:24:25 AM
How dare anyone attack cinematic treasures like "Space Mutiny," "Red Zone Cuba," and "Alien from LA"
What about Wheels of Terror?
by Sithdan
May 7th, 2008
08:26:37 AM
Anyone remember that one? Kind of like The Car meets Duel.
Beastie
by Bourne Again
May 7th, 2008
08:26:54 AM
As far as I'm concerned, Saawariya isn't my kind of movie. Of course, it is beautiful and performances are competent but somehow, the director Sanjay Leela is always too melodramatic for my taste. The bollywood movies I enjoyed are the 2 movies in 'Munna Bhai' series. If you're into somewhat serious movies then watch "U, Me Aur Hum" or "Taare Zameen Par".
Harry...how about a shout out for DiCillo's DELIRIOUS?
by rumple foreskin
May 7th, 2008
08:28:10 AM
Tom DiCillo's DELIRIOUS was an under-appreciated indie gem by the film's distributor. Help get the word out, Harry. It's on DVD today 5/6. Great extra features too highlighting the Buscemi/DiCillo collaborations starting with LIVING IN OBLIVION. This one deserves a big audience on DVD. Just screened at Roger Ebert's prestigious EBERTFEST. HOTTIE AND THE NOTTIE doesn't deserve promotion. It's studio garbage.
Good list
by Series7
May 7th, 2008
08:28:47 AM
I was afraid the only thing worth renting this week was going to be teeth. Two Hooah's on two.
Twister is a deeply terrible movie.
by Henry Jones Sr
May 7th, 2008
08:39:19 AM
The absolute worst part is when they're all having a jolly, spirited lunch with that old lady. She asks what an F5 tornado is, and everyone suddenly goes very quiet and deadly serious, and they answer her in hushed tones. Oh God, what a shit film!
Twister is a great movie...
by DerLanghaarige
May 7th, 2008
08:52:34 AM
...until the 2nd tornado (not counting the one in the prologue, where Helen Hunt's dad dies). Then it's just the same "Look, a Tornado! Follow it! Oh no, we're too close, run away!" like 6 or 7 times.
But the F/X still hold up pretty well.
Twister was fun
by Sithdan
May 7th, 2008
08:53:33 AM
I thought Twister was a decent popcorn movie. It made meteorology fun. Our local weatherman up in Indiana felt like a badass that summer, as if the movie was all about him.
A lot of Twister is ridiculous, but it is
by skimn
May 7th, 2008
08:56:57 AM
Jan DeBont's last watchable movie, and the special effects are pretty impressive even after all this time.

What IS up with the box art for Teeth? I seem to recall when it was released it was promoted as an almost-horror film. Now it looks like a remake of Chatterbox. Wonder if Juno has anything to do with the marketing...hmmmmmmm.

And let me join in the chorus of Misties who think you are way off base, Harry. That show gave new life to possibly the worst of all time, even besting Ed Wood's work, the immortal "Manos, Hand Of Fate". EW even did a lengthy write up on that, due in no small part to Mystery Science.

The second MST3K crew does do shorts.
by logicalnoise01
May 7th, 2008
09:09:43 AM
they host them on rifftrax and rifftrax has become a phenomenal value additive for many of my old movies.
rumple foreskin
by Series7
May 7th, 2008
09:10:51 AM
Is DELIRIOUS really good? I saw it somewhere and wondered wtf it was.
DELIRIOUS is great...
by rumple foreskin
May 7th, 2008
09:19:45 AM
Series7, if you loved "Living in Oblivion" you'll really dig "Delirious." DiCillo is a really underrated filmmaker. "Box of Moonlight" and "The Real Blonde" are great indie flicks" "Delirious" may be his best depending on your take on "...Oblivion." "Delirious" is a satirical take on the fame phenomenon through the eyes of a paparazzi played by Steve Buscemi. It is a true laugh out loud funny dramedy. I highly recommend. Featurettes on the DVD chronicle the work Buscemi and DiCillo have done together in the past leading up to "Delirious." And they discuss the state of indie cinema and the troubles to get a movie made...and in DiCillo's case with "Delirious"...released. The reviews on this one were terrific. Roeper talked about it this weekend as his DVD pick of the week. Ebert celebrated the film at Ebertfest a week ago. But the distribution company put no money into marketing, prints and advertising. It's a shame that flicks like "Hottie and the Nottie" get promotion here when they already have the industry machine churning out the big bucks for advertising all over the place.
I hate MST3K too!
by Nico Toscani
May 7th, 2008
09:22:59 AM
I have always hated MST3K. The worst part about that show was how it gave birth to the annoying culture of "riffing" during any slow point in a movie. I think that shit is more annoying that a marathon viewing of The Hottie and the Nottie! Fuck MST3K!
thought secret invasion was this week?
by waggy
May 7th, 2008
09:24:15 AM
guess that saves me a trip to the comic store (ok, obvious joke, but needed to be said)
Wow, that BluRay technology is amazing!
by Nice Marmot
May 7th, 2008
09:29:37 AM
They digitally replaced Helen Hunt w/ Ellen Barkin in Twister!!! And yes, it was such a shitty film. Philip Seymour Hoffman's memory of that performance shouldn't be too much more unpleasant than one of getting caught jerking off by his Mom.
HARRY, HELP!
by SpiceMonkey27
May 7th, 2008
09:31:28 AM
Is it possible you could use your name and clout to get Criterion to say something about releasing movies on bluray, i would love to see 7 samuria in 1080p, thanx
I have a noted history of not liking and actually hating this sh
by Broseph
May 7th, 2008
09:31:48 AM
Guess the check didn't clear?lol jk i've heard rumors about this site any thruth to it?
This Island Earth was the ONLY respectable movie...
by Osmosis Jones
May 7th, 2008
09:36:05 AM
...MST3K ever did. Everything else ranged from amusingly dated to horrendously, retina-scarring awful. Yeah, it sucks when you're sitting down to the latest Batmasn or Spider-Man movie, and there's some 15-year-old tool adding his own running commentary a few rows back, but taling at the movies existed LONG before MST3K. What's genius about the show is how they always came up with the best quips, while watching bad movies at home with your buds usually only results in variations on "this sucks".
Oh, Harry...
by TheGreatHomsar
May 7th, 2008
09:47:21 AM
...you miss the point. Joel, Mike, and all the MST3K gang are CINEPHILES just like yourself. If you watched MST3K for any extended amount of time, you would pick up on the metric assloads of references to actors, movies, famous quotes, etc. Seriously, half of my movie/TV education comes from having to look up some of the names they throw out in the theater. These guys watch a ton of film, and seriously, who would've even SEEN shit like "Boggy Creek" or "Mitchell" if it wasn't for Mystery Science Theater?

by smallerdemon
May 7th, 2008
09:47:38 AM
Osmosis - They did Diabolik as their last episode, and that's equally as enjoyable to me as the MSTied version (if not more so). The mention of Space Mutiny earlier, though... *heh* THICK MCRUNFAST!
Thanks, Bourne Again.
by beastie
May 7th, 2008
09:48:24 AM
I'll check out your suggestions.
Naked Twister is great...
by BanAllFIRSTPosters
May 7th, 2008
09:48:25 AM
Henry Jones Sr hit the nail on the head.
Killdozer!
by Darthkrusty
May 7th, 2008
09:53:03 AM
I wish they released the made-for-tv sequel to The Car as well... Killdozer! Gotta check if a dvd of that exists.... they both rule!
Belittling Movies?
by EgregiousPhilbin
May 7th, 2008
09:53:46 AM
"It’s the concept of belittling movies and declaring certain films as being TERRIBLE STINKERS – that I can’t stand." Am I wrong in thinking that you run a website where you and your friends declare movies to be terrible stinkers every single day?
FINALLY MASTER & COMMANDER in HD! Woooooooo!
by half vader
May 7th, 2008
09:55:46 AM
Sorry, but the rest of the thread went out of my head after reading that. Yeahhh Babeh!
I normally like Blanchett
by mr.brownstone
May 7th, 2008
10:08:59 AM
but she almost killed I'm Not There for me. It just seemed so mannered and painfully self conscious. I know I'm alone on this one.
half vader
by mr.brownstone
May 7th, 2008
10:10:27 AM
master and commander is a kirk & spock movie in disguise... and that's why I love it so much.
Well at least you like the robots Harry
by Tacom
May 7th, 2008
10:14:00 AM
I would think you were completely nuts if you didn't at least like Crow and Tom Servo.
Well, Harry
by Theta
May 7th, 2008
10:22:00 AM
I have to point out here that not all of us share your...diverse tastes. A lot of the films MST3K ripped into really were terrible, terrible movies (or at least terrible American edits/dubs of movies), and while I think "This Island Earth" has its virtues...it hasn't aged well and the guys are just saying what a good chunk of the audience is THINKING.
As I said several times before: I hated on MST3K...
by DerLanghaarige
May 7th, 2008
11:05:17 AM
...that they sometimes just made fun of movies, not because they were bad, but because they were OLD! Making fun of 20 - 50 year old special effects isn't really what I would call "ingenious", even if the joke is funny.
Twister was Shat
by RCFOM
May 7th, 2008
11:12:39 AM
It is a movie with evil corprate weather chasers. Seriously evil meteoroligists.
How about a remake of THE CAR...
by Mr_Incredible
May 7th, 2008
11:19:45 AM
Starring Josh Brolin? How about it? He looks exactly like his dad right now when his dad starred in THE CAR.
Wait...Harry Has A Muscle In His Back?
by www.valiens.com
May 7th, 2008
11:24:16 AM
In other news, hysterical shows like Mystery Science Theater shouldn't exist because we cannot trash (trash) cinema. But then scroll down and we find, "One of the worst films in the history of films." Soooo why is it okay for you to make that judgment but not the boys at Mystery Science Theater?
I don't believe you
by lagomorph
May 7th, 2008
11:43:14 AM
Can't blame you, but I honestly don't believe you have watched the Hottie and the Nottie. For if you did, Harry, you would surely have been awarded the nobel peace prize for your sacrifice. Fess up now.
Island Earth wasn't bad but I love Servo's singing:
by Tacom
May 7th, 2008
11:55:38 AM
"Da da dada da da/ It's the Braak Show/Starring me/I'm Brak!/It's the Brak Show and I've got lots of good guests...." That had me in stitches the first time I saw it!
I didn't think MST3K was Attacking you Personally
by gaston213
May 7th, 2008
12:02:41 PM
Do you ever have the ability to step back from your geekdom and lighten the fuck up a little? If you were able to you would be able to appreciate the humor these guys add to a seriously dated SciFi movie. I like the movie to, but you can't deny that at times it’s utterly ridiculous and, at times, even comical on its own (without trying).
The Car
by SamBlackChvrch21
May 7th, 2008
12:16:42 PM
A co worker has been hounding me to see The Car for YEARS now. Maybe I should finally check it out. I hope it isn't over-hyped. Ins't it rated PG??
The Car!!!!!
by Darth Macchio
May 7th, 2008
12:21:47 PM
Holy shit but I love this movie in the most guilty of guilty-pleasure kinda way. James Brolin in full on "Ammityville Horror"/"Prophecy" caveman look...a totally kick ass evil Car that can absolutely crash right through your living room and obliterate you without even slowing down (best scene in whole movie). That incessant honking and the scene where the car is stopped and Brolin approaches it and the door opens...then slams shut right as he gets close enough to see "who" is driving. No answers and no purpose. Just evil death on wheels. Since I first got my learner's permit I've wanted my very own "The Car" so I can speed through friendly neighborhoods smashing pussified speedbumps and honking nonstop my evil horn and chasing pee-wee baseball kids around. No...I don't actually want to run somebody over again and again even if they are a kid...it's messy after all...but the idea of chasing a little-league baseball team with a big giant black demon car with a horror-horn is just pure fun for all involved.
so she "stills" the show?
by dtpena
May 7th, 2008
12:29:37 PM
or is it a joke I don't get?
Avatar?
by PirateEmery
May 7th, 2008
12:37:32 PM
What about the DVD release of the new Avatar: Last Airbender installment?

...that includes episodes that won't air on Nickelodeon until July.

wait! wasn't there a john candy movie called DELIRIOUS?
by jig98
May 7th, 2008
01:05:24 PM
he was a soap opera writer who gets transported to a world full of his charectors. and eddie murphy also did a comedy special called delirious in the 80's. i might be wrong.
The trouble with Harry...
by Mattyboy122
May 7th, 2008
01:12:51 PM
You defend old B-movie fare like This Island Earth (hardly high culture cinema), saying that MST3K belittles a film you think is great because you grew up with it. Then you slam The Hottie and the Nottie (and trust me, I'm in no way, shape, or form defending that film). But couldn't someone justify their love for such junk by saying "well I grew up with this Paris Hilton film! Because of that, it kicks ass!" Nostalgia is a band-aid. If you can wipe away nostalgia and still find a good film underneath, then that's a film worth loving. If you just like a film because of the good times it makes you remember, you're not really liking the film at all; you're thinking about your childhood and not the film. Case in point: I loved Hook when I was a kid. Watched that shit over and over again. Now when I try to watch it I see it for the overall abortion it is (there are some inspired moments, of course...it is Spielberg after all). If I blindly loved every film now that I loved when I was a kid, hell, I'd be defending Batman Forever, ID4, Goonies, etc. And, well, those films range from mediocre to just plain awful. However there are some great movies you see when you're a kid that, upon seeing them with adult eyes, you see they still kick ass. Movies like Jurassic Park, Star Wars, Raiders, Die Hard, Who Framed Roger Rabbit, etc. I watched Who Framed Roger Rabbit so much as a kid that our old vhs tape is unwatchable. But I bought it on DVD a few years back, wondering if it held up and I'll be damned if that isn't one of my absolute favorite films of the 80's. Anyway, I've gone off on a bit of a rant here, but to make a long story short ('too late!'), nostalgia does not a good film make.
Hey, that Teeth girl looks kinda cute.
by IAmMrMonkey!
May 7th, 2008
01:19:52 PM
Oh god, but she has her teeth in the wrong place. I don't know if I could. I really don't know...

Oh hell, she's cute. Yeah I could.

It's tough being a guy sometimes.

Appropo of nothing
by skimn
May 7th, 2008
01:42:27 PM
Caught "Inside" last night and have got to say, with this title and High Tension, the French sure love their bloody violence with sharp utensils...ouch!!
Is it possible to have too much affection for movies?
by drewlicious
May 7th, 2008
01:43:37 PM
Seriously I've seen Harry defend some real crap just because he has a soft spot for the project or the material. Enthusiasm is no substitute for quality. Besides most of the crap Mystery Science Theater mocks is pretty awful no matter what time period they're in.
teeth
by GavinVanDraven
May 7th, 2008
01:57:20 PM
best movie coming out this week. master and commander? are they going to make any more of those? shitty cliffhanger ending ruined it for me.
"Dilwale Dulhania Le Jayenge" is the only
by LaneMyersClassic
May 7th, 2008
02:00:53 PM
Bollywood movie you will ever need to see. Everything else is chopped liver compared to it. I'm serious, I've seen quite a few Bollywood movies and they are all ruined because of this one.
Abominable?
by Cadillac Jones
May 7th, 2008
02:18:17 PM
Wasn't that supposed to get reviewed? No bigfoot-yeti loving?!
Beastie, regarding Bollywood:
by Kurutteru Yatsu
May 7th, 2008
02:22:22 PM
You're not going to find any good Bollys at Blockbuster, if you can find any at all; Netflix won't be much help either. To find a decent selection of Bollywood films you're going to need to hunt down your local Indian grocery/video store and rent from them. Recommended viewing to start with: Kuch Kuch Hota Hai, Kabhi Khushi Kabhie Gham, Mohabbatein, Dilwale Dulhania Le Jayenge, Veer-Zaara, Umrao Jaan, the Dhoom films if you want some Hollywood action explosion excess, and if you want some older titles look for Teesri Manzil, Don (1978 version with Amitabh Bachchan), Sholay, and The Great Gambler.

Actors/Actress es to look for: Shahrukh Khan, Kajol, Rani Mukherjee, Preity Zinta, Salman Khan, and with few exceptions you can never go wrong with Amitabh Bachchan.

Anyway, start there and then ask the people working the counter to recommend some others, or just branch out looking for names and faces you recognize. Good luck.
Also, to everyone ragging on Harry over MST...
by Kurutteru Yatsu
May 7th, 2008
02:25:26 PM
High five.
The Car and Twister
by 24200124
May 7th, 2008
02:25:58 PM
Two perfectly good guilty pleasure movies. The last pressing of "Twister" on DVD had a great DTS track, I wonder if it made it to this new pressing. But "The Car"? Saw this on television way back when I was a kid in the 80's, and it pops up on the Sci Fi channel every now and again. Can't wait to get my hands on this DVD. Thanks for alerting me to its presence.
Who is Joan Biaz?
by Gwai Lo
May 7th, 2008
02:28:09 PM
I know about a Joan Baez, is it possible Dylan dated two girls with almost exactly the same name, and I don't know about the other one?!?!?!?!
The Car....
by boast
May 7th, 2008
02:39:44 PM
i saw "The Car" parked in the Universal Studios backlot in like '79. i was on the tour tram and almost jumped off just to go stand next to it.
THE ROCK AS BRAVESTARR!!!!!
by ludmir88
May 7th, 2008
03:09:34 PM
i guess.
So Americans watch Bollywood movies?
by WickedMonster
May 7th, 2008
03:12:17 PM
Quite a revelation. All I have heard so far is people whining about melodramatic Bollywood movies can get, and cabbage plots...

P.S Stay away from Bollywood movies mimicking Hollywood special FX (i.e. DHOOM, RACE, etc.) unless you want to laugh at their attempts.

"about melodramatic Bollywood movies"
by WickedMonster
May 7th, 2008
03:14:02 PM
"about *how* melodramatic"

Harry, you f***ing couch potato, get us an edit button, you redheaded nincompoop.

Harry hated MST3K because...
by BobParr
May 7th, 2008
03:30:06 PM
it makes him look like a joke. They justifiably make fun of the same unwatchable films that Harry "Loves" and "Kick Ass".
MST3K
by Toonol
May 7th, 2008
03:43:19 PM
You're getting the wrong vibe. Mike, Joel, and the Robots loved those old movies. Let me refer you to the final episode: Mike and crew finally escape the Satellite of Love and make their way to Earth. What do they do? Hang around Mike's apartment and watch crappy old movies. Of their own free will. You can tease things you love.
Who was driving the car?
by BobParr
May 7th, 2008
03:49:01 PM
Was it a demon with horns or something?
BRAVESTARR FUCKING OWNS YOU
by judge dredds fresh undies
May 7th, 2008
03:51:08 PM
That cartoon is almost on a level with Thundercats, I dunno what the film is about, I'm sure its good but i want the whole series on dvd!
harry they picked the movie because it was good
by Prossor
May 7th, 2008
04:01:47 PM
for the movie they couldnt pick the movies they do for the show, they at least had to make the movie somewhat good for the thaeter audience, they said it themselves. also i am probably the only person to love the show and equally love the movies on that said show. yes they rip em apart and i laugh, but then i own many of the movies themselves on dvd and trust me when theyre good the jokes dont even enter my head.
Harry's MST3K Hate
by monorail77
May 7th, 2008
04:03:38 PM
I get where Harry is coming from. Films are his passion and vocation. He hates people unfairly ripping on them. For the same reasons, I hate lawyer jokes with an absolute passion.

That said, I acknowledge that some lawyer jokes are pretty funny, as long as they're not too hateful. I'd encourage Harry to acknowledge the same about some of the MST3K commentary jokes. Also, just as some lawyers probably deserve scorn, so some films are deserving of ridicule.

I actually enjoy the MST3K jokes AND I enjoy some of the films they rip on as standalone films. You CAN have it both ways, Harry. It is possible.

Lastly, this is my first ever attempt at paragraph breaks. Hope it worked...

Harry, seen Frontier(s)?
by cinefreak7
May 7th, 2008
04:05:47 PM
Just curious. It came out this week too and seems like something you'd wanna see. I bought it today, sight unseen, just based on the positive word I've seen on sites like Bloody-Disgusting. Just wanted to see what your take on it was.
Family Guy made fun of Star Wars
by BobParr
May 7th, 2008
04:07:22 PM
and they obviously love the movie. It can be done if you don't take it so seriously.
Don't see any Bollywood movies with Salman Khan...
by LaneMyersClassic
May 7th, 2008
04:14:53 PM
What a prick, both on screen and off. Can't stand him! Shahruk Khan (a different Khan) is very popular in more recent Bollywood films (including my favorite - DDLJ). He overacts tremendously, but has a certain weird likability. I can't explain it.
I remember Bravestar when it was actually..
by Stalkeye
May 7th, 2008
04:19:26 PM
..Galaxy Rangers> Seriously, what the fuck is bravestar? It sounds like one of Filmations last attempt at surviving the American animation scene.

Never heard of the Car, but I doubt it was better than JC's Christine.Teeth sounds like fun, hopefully it's not as bad as that other indie chick horror film called May.

Twister is a good movie
by The Amazing G
May 7th, 2008
05:06:04 PM
I can dig it
and plus
by The Amazing G
May 7th, 2008
05:06:51 PM
I was in freakin' kindergarten when it first came out, hard to believe AICN is that old too
SUMMER OF THE CAR
by Mace Tofu
May 7th, 2008
05:21:39 PM
I was lucky to be a projectionist at a third rate movie house so we got THE CAR first run : ) I got to watch it like 3 times a day for 2 weeks. I love THE CAR. HONK, HONK, HOOOOOONK!
Remember the BRAVESTARR toys?
by Tacom
May 7th, 2008
05:33:16 PM
You put the action figures on some platform and when you shot it with a Bravestarr laser blaster the figure would fall off!

by huggerorange
May 7th, 2008
05:38:02 PM
"the car" was boring movie and isnt a miligram as badass as Christine..not to mention the car itself. Christine is a beautiful car and is worth buying the dvd just to get a look at the car alone, but has alot more: great performances, awesome score and soundtrack, a hotass kelley preston, on top of that John carpenter directing a stephen king novel!
My interrosseter was way nicer...
by jimmy rabbitte
May 7th, 2008
05:42:22 PM
than the one in This Island Earth.
bravestar good
by LarryTheCableGuy
May 7th, 2008
06:23:22 PM
but galaxy rangers is out and thats completely awesome. star wars meets the wild west in space. twister sucks.
mst3k introduced us to so many films
by LarryTheCableGuy
May 7th, 2008
06:27:41 PM
that we dnt know existed. i have a mind of my own, i canlike a film and think its good, that mst3k tells me is a piece of shit, i'm just happy that they give me a chance to catch half ofhem or i'd never know they even existed. like mitchell and all the others.
And still, no ISLAND OF LOST SOULS (1932)
by Piltdown Joey
May 7th, 2008
06:47:37 PM
At least the MST3K guys
by GhostDad
May 7th, 2008
06:58:06 PM
Actually like these kind of films. I'd rather take the unwanted side effect of kids making horrendusly unfunny jokes at the movies, then the side effects of all of the modern day horror/sci fi directors and writers who talk so much about how they're fans of the source material and love these types of movies, then produce horrendous remakes and ripoffs (I'm looking at you, Paul WS Anderson)
Who was driving the Car???
by Darth Macchio
May 7th, 2008
07:49:18 PM
Well of course I won't spoil it duh. Seriously, it's highly worth checking out...going to be a purchase for me.

Speaking of which...anyone know who did the work on the Car? It looks like they started with a lincoln continental and then totally modded the body. Those headlights are still the kewlest and creepiest I've ever seen on a car. And yes...HONK HONK HONK HONK HONK HONK HONK!! HHOOOONNKKK!! I've always wanted that exact horn too...scare the living shit out of aimless pedestrians (gotta be careful tho...dust a geezer and you could be up for involuntary manslaughter! ouch!)

The Car...
by BoggyCreekBeast
May 7th, 2008
07:50:00 PM
I've owned this one on DVD for years, and it's a very nice transfer... but is this one a new transfer? A freaking great time. And I saw The Car on the Universal tour around the same time; it looked so dang *small* parked there, all dusty and sad looking.
The Car is nuts
by SoylentMean
May 7th, 2008
08:14:16 PM
No explanation as to why an indestructable force is attacking a small town=fuckin' scary! Also, this is a late 70's "PG" rating, that today would have at least earned a "PG-13", potentially an "R". I just finished watching it and it is almost as good as Duel. Now that would be one helluva double feature. Doesn't need a remake you Hollywood bastards!
Tim Burton should do a Bollywood film
by SoylentMean
May 7th, 2008
08:20:03 PM
Call it Kali's Revenge, and let the blood and guts raind down on hapless passerby who spontaneously burst into song and flame at the same time.

Seriously, does anybody think the AICN crowd is the target demographic for Bollywood? I hope I never see a Bollywood film, ever. If you can't sell me on premise or a kickass trailer I'm not gonna be interested. Besides, I always think of that Fandango commercial with the paperbag puppets when someone says "Bollywood".

Twister is crap
by DaveInRhodeIsland
May 7th, 2008
08:23:43 PM
Seriously Harry - crap. You know, it's fun to like movies that make you feel like a kid experiencing the joy of cinema, but grow up dude. Sometimes movies just suck and trying to find some nugget of childlike wonder about flying cows is just stupid.
So... is that a recommendation for Hottie/Nottie?
by ILoveEwksAndJJar
May 7th, 2008
08:54:54 PM
If not, why even put it on your list? And no love for Avatar?
Harry, without MST3K...
by Lenny Nero
May 7th, 2008
08:55:57 PM
...your "beloved movies" would never have reached a wider, newer audience. Even if they lightly poke fun at the movies they show, they actually show a great deal of respect, and if you can't notice them when watching almost any episode, you're being blinded by bias. They crack wise because they care. The fact they even made a show about airing bad movies should be proof enough for you.
i too would like to toss my shit hat into the Twister
by future help
May 7th, 2008
09:07:32 PM
"leave your mind at the door." fuck you. Bill Paxton should be embarased.
Bill Paxton
by El_Duderino
May 7th, 2008
09:24:48 PM
Bad actor, good agent. 'nuff said. Much like Jeff Goldblum.
SoylentMean
by Kurutteru Yatsu
May 7th, 2008
09:27:26 PM
Wow, Burton directing a Bollywood film. That sounds like a great idea. Tell you what, why don't you get started on the bursting into flames part now and the rest of us will catch up with you later. Thanks champ.
Student Bodies on DVD June 3rd!!!!!!
by UnknownUser
May 7th, 2008
09:27:37 PM
Fruck Yeah baby!!!! Now all we need is Night Of The Creeps. :)
...and BTW...
by El_Duderino
May 7th, 2008
09:28:59 PM
I'll watch MST3K the Movie any day of the week before I would ever watch Twister again (or anything else on this list. Normal view....normal viewww...noormal viewwwwwww....NOOOOOORRRRMAAAA LLL VIEEEEWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This Island Earth: The Hidden Truth
by MrD
May 7th, 2008
10:21:08 PM
I love great early SF films. Time Machine, The Thing, War of the Worlds, The Day the Earth Stood Still, Forbidden Planet... I grew up on these as much as I did on Trek and Star Wars. The one I never did catch (in those pre-Blockbuster days) was This Island Earth. I remember being home from college and finding it one a cable channel, happy to finally get a chance to watch it. And it stank. Not in a "gee,not as good as I thought it would be" way, but in a "poorly written, poorly acted, poorly conceived" sort of way. Don't get me wrong - it's enjoyable in the same way that many bad 50s SF movies are, but in no way shape or form does it deserve to be ranked with the films I listed above. A few years later, I heard MST - a show I knew of but never watched - was going after this so-called classic, and was thrilled. When interviewed, one of the creators was asked why go after such an esteemed piece of SF film history, to which he replied "Have you watched it?" I can say yes I have seen it, yes it sucks, and yes it deserves this treatment. Truth to power.
Todd Haynes's profile
by Chark
May 7th, 2008
10:23:21 PM
He is my favor! Just saw his profile on interracial dating site called B L A C K W H I T E K I S S .C O M last week. He is writing her blog there.
Addendum
by MrD
May 7th, 2008
10:29:04 PM
Despite my ragging on TIE, it is head and shoulders above the vast majority of D-level crappola that MST ripped on, but that's like being the best episode of My Mother the Car. It deserves to be taken down a peg because it is terribly overrated, a B movie dressed in A movie clothes.
OKay, can we get away from..
by OBSD
May 7th, 2008
10:30:22 PM
bridging the Harry/MST3K gap by saying: "but Harry, they liiiked those movies!" Welcome to "you're wrong night". There's no way anybody could ever, in a million years think that EEagh or The Sidehackers or The Beast Of Yucca Flats or Manos: Hands of Fate were anything but huge piles of shit. These are truly terrible movies, folks and deserved to be mocked. Also, to echo an earlier poster; Harry, just because you're nostalgic about a movie doesn't mean that it's a particularly good movie. When I was a kid, every Saturday my local UHF station (hey, kids, remember UHF?) would show two monster movies back-to-back. Usually they would show like minded movies together. Two Hammer movies for example. One Saturday they showed two Gamera movies. My friends and I went apeshit. Sure we knew who Godzilla was, but a flying turtle with flames shooting out? Pure bliss. We ran around pretending to be Gamera for like 8 hours, man. I loved that turtle. Then 15 years later I was watching MST3K and Gamera came on. Guess what? I found it funny as hell. Know why? Because my adult brain was able to separate the nostalgia of the Gamera movies and the reality that they weren't very good. SO I think some perspective might be in order when it comes to you and MST3K, Harry. Also, to say that you hate all of MST3k because they make fun of your favorite movies is really scary because it says that you love all 150-200 of those movies that they riffed on.That's a lot of really bad movies to love, man. And if you can honestly say that you love The Day The Earth Froze then I can honestly say you love EVERY movie ever made. I guess that's something.
The Car is awesome...
by poeticwarriorII
May 7th, 2008
10:54:53 PM
Go check that shit out if you haven't seen it!!
"Oh, so THAT'S a pancreas!"
by Osmosis Jones
May 7th, 2008
10:58:52 PM
"Brak has visible panty line."
wheres the porn this week
by sarsy
May 7th, 2008
11:14:29 PM
???
So...complete crap this month?
by Uncle Stan
May 7th, 2008
11:15:47 PM
MST3k and the red-haired monster
by torgosPizza
May 8th, 2008
12:40:16 AM
Harry, seriously. "Genre" movies? I would hardly call Manos or Mixed-up Zombies genre flicks, if that's a polite way of saying they are garbage but still managed to get made. Come on, not every movie on the planet is awesome. Hottie and Nottie are proof enough of that.
But OBSD, don't you think the MST3K gang...
by Lenny Nero
May 8th, 2008
01:31:51 AM
...get sort of a gleeful and anarchistic glee when they experience such films as "Eegah!" and "M:THOF"? If they were just painful, they wouldn't air them and wreak them on the world, but it's almost an education to watch these movies, and I think they understand that.
I've never posted in Harry's DVD pick column
by Grammaton Cleric Binks
May 8th, 2008
07:02:32 AM
but The Car? Hell yeah. Christine may have had more depth, at least the novel, but the car owned. Before General Lee, before KITT, there was The Car. Long before VCRs, in the days when your tv had three channels you got up to change I saw this movie two or three times on television. A demonic car, driven by Satan presumably, with nothing to do except run the local townsfolk over, and that badass scare you to death horn? It scares you to death, then you're dead under the tires. Ronny Cox, James Brolin, I could just keep rambling. This is classic. I need to rent this.
I forgot the horn was from a semi-trailer
by Grammaton Cleric Binks
May 8th, 2008
07:10:49 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =TFWea3Eu97E
The Car...
by DocPazuzu
May 8th, 2008
07:32:06 AM
...is the SHIT!!

What a great little movie! It scared the crap out of me as a kid. So weird, so unrelenting. I consider The Car to be the perfect example as to why virtually no horror movies made today actually work, while almost any premise, no matter how outrageous, could be made to work in an old school horror movie. The Car plays everything completely straight, and there isn't one second during the film that you don't buy it hook, line and fucking sinker.

HONKHONKHONK - HOOOOOOONNNKK!!!!

The title is so simple and straightforward too
by Grammaton Cleric Binks
May 8th, 2008
07:42:34 AM
The Car. The name says it all.
couldn't find THE CAR yesterday at Best Buy or Walmart
by Mace Tofu
May 8th, 2008
09:57:52 AM
Target will be my next stop today... HONNNNNK!
Thanks Harry!!!
by RomeroZombie
May 8th, 2008
10:14:52 AM
You just helped me find a movie that Ive been searching for.Its one of those movies where you remember a scene or an image or two.I remember catching it I think years ago on USA network on the show hosted by Captain Usa(that corny ass motherfucka)The movie is Devil Times Five.Now I can rest that part of my brain that has been hooked on the creepy nun in the red habit.
Best part of The Car?
by Stuntcock Mike
May 8th, 2008
11:55:11 AM
Watching that moronic hippie with the french horn get run over 6 times. Beautiful.
Second best part of The Car?
by Stuntcock Mike
May 8th, 2008
11:56:27 AM
Kathleen Lloyd's polyester Camel Toe.
Watched the MST movie again this morning.
by Kurutteru Yatsu
May 8th, 2008
12:10:56 PM
Because of the last two days of this talkback. I've seen some good old time sci-fi films. This Island Earth is *not* one of them. With that being said: "This is your dishwasher liquid. You soak in it." "And it's a long par 5 to the nation's capital..." "Suddenly I have a refreshing mint flavor!" Bliss.
Third best part of The Car?
by Stuntcock Mike
May 8th, 2008
12:15:56 PM
Chrysler obviously modeled the 300C on it.
Also best part of The Car
by Betacamman
May 8th, 2008
12:44:25 PM
That opening sequence with the couple on the bikes. That shot where you just see the streak of blood on the wall...
I do wonder...
by Betacamman
May 8th, 2008
12:45:36 PM
...how those folks who were buying MST3K:TM at $100 a pop on eBay are feeling right now.
Best part of The Car is when it flies through that
by UnknownUser
May 8th, 2008
01:12:46 PM
House!

HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONNN NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNKKKKKKKKK KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I don't know how you watch all this filth
by Samus Aran
May 8th, 2008
01:13:15 PM
I think that you literally watch everything that has ever been filmed. I seriously do not understand how you can stand to do that. It seems like your life is a living hell. I'm not exagerating when I say that I think that watching all the movies that you seem to watch would be the equivilant of mild torture. Watching all these movies is not merely a waste of time, it seems like extremely self destructive behaviour. Why would you subject yourself to at best constant mediocrity, and at worst stomach churning "art". It's like going to the garbage dump and pulling out your fork, and gorging yourself on the truckloads of waste, and never stopping. Harry, do you eat as poorly as you watch movies? This is grotesque. Did you actually watch that "Hottie and Nottie"? How did you possibly do that without puking? I group that movie with almost all of your other "picks". lol
Student Bodies comes out on DVD June 3rd!!!!
by UnknownUser
May 8th, 2008
01:19:08 PM
What no fanfare for this news?!?!?!? Do you know what this film is!!!!! Talking through a rubber chicken, galoshes, using an eggplant to murder. This is the movie that started the horror spoofs. It is the Airplane of Horror Comedy!
I saw part of Student Bodies. Let's just say
by Grammaton Cleric Binks
May 8th, 2008
01:37:27 PM
there's good spoofs, there's bad spoofs. I didn't care for it, even with the infamous "do you like eggplant?" quote.
I forget, how did the wife beater (guy not shirt)
by Grammaton Cleric Binks
May 8th, 2008
01:39:34 PM
get involved in helping the cops out in The Car. I remember the French horn dude getting creamed repeatedly though. Harry was right. Airwolf doesn't stand a chance against The Car. I mean It smashes into cliffs, and chunks of cliffs fall off. Nuff said. I wonder if the seats were Corinthian leather.... made from real Corinthians.
You know who drives The Car?
by Stuntcock Mike
May 8th, 2008
01:50:47 PM
OLEG
Dude, I should have thought of that
by Grammaton Cleric Binks
May 8th, 2008
02:03:05 PM
I gotta get my head out of my third point of contact.
And here's the best bollywood movie - sort of
by Grammaton Cleric Binks
May 8th, 2008
02:05:25 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =j7HZf7k2gTo
Not bad, Grammaton.
by Kurutteru Yatsu
May 8th, 2008
02:47:49 PM
I'll see your House of Pain and raise you an Elvis:

http://tinyurl.c om/4m88q4

Or a U2: http://tinyurl.com/3v8qme
So movies don't deserve mockery?
by IAmJack'sUserID
May 8th, 2008
02:51:11 PM
I mean our President does to you, but your oh-so precious movies don't deserve it? BULLSHIT. I usually support you but you're being pretentious and preachy, not to mention too serious. There are crap movies out there, and they deserve ridicule just as you deserve it for your payolas and biasedness. Don't act so 'holier-than-thou' when you have quite a few flaws in your character, chum.
Cried laughing during a MST3K Godzilla flick...
by Billyeveryteen
May 8th, 2008
03:50:56 PM
Good times, good times.

This Island Earth is credability-destroyingly-awful .

Kurutteru Yatsu, I am a champion...
by SoylentMean
May 8th, 2008
03:58:41 PM
of pissing off people who like Bollywood films. Thanks for recognizing that, defender of the sacred Indian film genre. Hilarious.

Actually, come to think of it, Eli Roth should do a Bollywood film, with Uwe Boll doing second unit work. That just might work.

MST3K
by Blitz
May 8th, 2008
04:08:31 PM
Is the shit and I don't care what you may think about it. Funny thing, I actually saw This Island Earth before I ever saw MST3K. But watching them poke fun at stuff in that movie makes for one of the funniest movies ive ever seen.
Last I heard, movies were for entertainment
by Mattapooh
May 8th, 2008
07:51:06 PM
So when the MST3K guys made a movie entertaining in a different way than was intended, I don't see the problem. Personally, they riffed on flicks I enjoy, but I didn't take it personally. Maybe I'm just weird, I dunno. Laserblast and Zombie Nightmare are flicks I probably wouldn't have enjoyed, but the MST3K versions absolutely killed me.

Also, I bought and watched The Car today in my girlfriend's parents' sweet-ass theatre. The screen's like eight feet across, so that opening scene with the car appearing in the tunnel was super fun.
The Car > Death Proof
by ArtznCraphs
May 8th, 2008
08:49:42 PM
The Car is more like what I expected when I first heard the concept of a damn car that's death proof. What a waste
I remember one episode of Bravestarr ...
by KnightShift
May 8th, 2008
08:58:21 PM
... that was about drug abuse. The dog-type aliens (think they were called dingos?) were making this drug and this one kid got hooked. He started going through withdrawal and would do anything to get his high. The episode ended with him OD'ing and dead, with a final shot of his funeral before Bravestarr came on with the obligatory "don't do drugs" message. Was a pretty mature story for a kids' show. I haven't seen it in 20 years and it's still memorable somehow.
Did you know? Blu Ray is...
by fishpillow
May 8th, 2008
10:45:20 PM
..supposed to look like shit? http://www.thedigitalbits.com/ #mytwocents
Is he wearing slacks...?
by Osmosis Jones
May 8th, 2008
10:46:45 PM
You're holding a Mu-tant turd!
wait a minute, nothing defeats Airwolf.
by BMacSmith
May 8th, 2008
11:03:40 PM
why does that Paris shit look like its titled 'the hot tie and the not tie'? is it a movie about ties?
Everyone seems to be ignoring the fact...
by CatVutt
May 8th, 2008
11:37:10 PM
That Harry recommends that ridiculous shitball of a movie "I'm Not There". Besides the admittedly incredibly watchable Cate bits, that thing is the most cliche'-ridden piece of laughable crap I've ever had the displeasure of sitting through. Utter garbage.
So, Paris Hilton plays the nottie right?
by otm shank
May 8th, 2008
11:42:49 PM
Cause even the uni-brow chick is more attractive than her.
Twister owes me for no tractor-flying-at-screen shot
by JackRabbitSlim
May 9th, 2008
12:13:23 AM
It was the most blatant bit of false advertising for a movie (a shot that was in the trailer but not in the moobie) EVER!. Well, except for the classic line from Empire "Go back to your ghetto!" Tragic too that there are 100+ talkbacks and didn't see a single one for Macon County Line. Nice shock ending - first fuzzy-focus sex scene - in a tub in a barn, no less - that I can recall - but i never saw Last Tango so what do I know.
Kurutteru Yatsu, thank you, thank you very
by Grammaton Cleric Binks
May 9th, 2008
06:45:24 AM
much. The best House of Pain was spliced with the Clone Wars cartoon. Mace was going off on everything, but the video got pulled. Here's the second best one. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =UyllTHBBv9A
Is that really
by JohnSpartan
May 9th, 2008
08:49:12 AM
The cover art for Teeth? That is f-bombing funomenal! It looks like the sequel to The Girl Next Door. That's mercilessly subversive. I really hope that cover manages to lure a few hapless folks to what will surely be their cinematic demise. It would be awesome if the blurb synopsis on the back were equally misleading...
$.02
by JohnSpartan
May 9th, 2008
09:41:12 AM
As long as we're debating the relative merits of MST3K:My friends and I were "riffing" on terrible films YEARS before anyone saw MST3K...as I'm sure were everyone else and their friends. So please don't blame that on Joel and Mike. It would happen with or without them. If people are talking during "Speed Racer," or any theatrical screening, it's cuz they're assholes, not cuz they're MST3K fans. Riffing should be done amongst like-minded groups in controlled situations (home viewing), or under your breath to whomever has happened to be so kind as to accompany you to a movie. Except in the case of that last Highlander movie. God, that was awful. It is not impossible to enjoy both the original film and the MST3Ked version. There are several MST3K episodes where I've had that moment of "Hey! I like that movie!" at the beginning, but come on now...almost every film, TV show, book, video game, radio show or any sort of media content has conceits that only make sense within the work itself. When considered out of context, those attributes easily become laughable. Sure, by definition, pointing out those conceits breaks the mystique of the original work, but that process can be enjoyed on its own merits as well. Would these guys (the MST3K crew) really have invested years of their lives in the show if they didn't truly love film? Kevin Murphy, the latter day voice of Tom Servo, wrote a book entitled "A Year at the Movies," chronicling a year of his life where he visited a different movie theater every day for a year. You don't do that if you don't truly love the medium and the experience of seeing movies in a theater. It is possible to love something and recognize its shortcomings at the same time....not to get too deep, but isn't that what love means? To truly accept something, warts and all, whether it be a person, a place, a book, or a movie? I'm just pissed because these guys thought of a way to make money from this shiznit before I did. *Enhance your calm.*
Helen Hunt was hot in twister
by Abominable Snowcone
May 9th, 2008
10:06:53 AM
Gave me a boner. The movie was fun too. Now I can't drive through the country and look at a cornfield without imagining a cyclone ripping through it.
I agree with you, Harry, I hate MST3K
by Trazadone
May 9th, 2008
10:57:03 AM
for all the reasons you noted.
I seriously doubt that you would've drafter, Harry.
by m2298
May 9th, 2008
01:10:03 PM
drafteD, I mean
by m2298
May 9th, 2008
01:11:08 PM
JohnSpartan
by Samus Aran
May 9th, 2008
03:52:23 PM
The only times I have heard riffing in the theater was when the movie was truly terrible, and for anyone who lives or has lived in Burbank as I did, you may know that there is a certain movie theater there where most of the audience riffs on movies loudly ALL THE TIME, and in all cases this made the movie going experience far more enjoyable than it would have been otherwise, because those guys are really funny. The most memorable time for me was watching "Wing Commander" (which I went to for the Phantom Menace trailer back when I was a George Lucas fan), and it was one of the funniest movies I have EVER seen, and only because of the riffing. I want to go back to that theater in Burbank, because I need a good laugh like that again. I don't think the Mystery Science Theater guys are as funny as the Burbank audience.
Seven Samurai on blu-ray...
by SK229
May 9th, 2008
04:40:40 PM
...right... so that sites like high def digest can shit all over it in their review and, even though it's black and white, talk about how the skin tones are shifted too much towards gray. I don't think those websites understand that part of what makes older films great is that they're not pin-sharp images that seem hyper-real, but more like watching a waking dream. Then there's all this shit about 'skin tones' and the greens not looking the way they should, this, that, and the other, the audio isn't great (honestly, does EVERY fucking movie have to be filled with a thunderous, deafening surround channel? Should the plane engines in Casablanca at the end blow my ears out?), and GASP!, there aren't enough extras and/or they aren't in high def. I understand expecting a better experience TO A POINT, but when you cross the line into areas about which I have NO FUCKING CLUE what makes the reviewer an authority, then I have a huge problem with high definition disc reviews. If I am Legend or Transformers doesn't have a tip-top picture and sound, THAT'S something to bitch about, but if Criterion releases an edition of Wild Strawberries in blu-ray, the point of it is to have it as close to a theatrical print with a better contrast ratio than you could ever see before, and even then, who is to say that the contrast is even supposed to be there? It's akin to complaining that the Oompah loopmahs in Willy Wonka's faces skew too much toward the red. Or why are all of the bar scenes in Mean Streets not properly balanced and bathed in red light. It's total fucking bullshit. And the best is that some of these blogs and sites actually have people asking if something was shot in HD from like 30 fuckin' years ago, how can it look good in HD?! Or you have people talking about how film is 8k or 10k or 4k or whatever, and HD is 2k. At some point it's like... does the content itself even really matter to you or is it just a reason to complain? I have a blu-ray/HD DVD player and I love my player, I love both formats (obviously getting a lot more out of the Blu-ray side from now on, although I have a lot of HD DVD's that are great), but I just read a review of the Butch Cassidy blu-ray and I have to wonder if the reviewer has ever seen the film before. There are parts of that film that in order to get a zoom effect afterwards, it was done optically AFTER the fact and the result is obvious grain and a degraded image. But it's also part of it's charm. The 'Raindrops' sequence is intentionally soft and dreamy, and it's NOT supposed to feel like you're fucking there. I love the format, but I'm starting to hate my fellow supporters and I have to wonder if they were really cinema lovers to begin with. It's like... have you ever sat in a theater to watch a shitty print of a great movie and you're just happy that you're seeing it in a theater with your fellow film lovers? I think these so-called reviewers and websites are going to ruin any chances for more great releases on the format simply because they expect every movie ever made to look like a Michael Bay shit-fest when it's ported to high definition.
Samus
by JohnSpartan
May 9th, 2008
04:50:10 PM
Right on, man. That definitely falls under my definition of a "group of like-minded people." I need to go to that theater. Sounds like fun. Wing Commander was pretty hilarious. My favorite theatrical riffing experience was "Highlander: Endgame." And that time, me and my friends *were* the assholes. At the end, this dude stormed past us as we left, clearly taking the whole thing far more seriously than anyone really should. Felt like crap about that. Oh well. Doesn't change the fact that the movie deserved every bit of scorn we poured on it. So there ya go.
SK229, spot on
by SoylentMean
May 9th, 2008
05:14:55 PM
I used to read Widescreen Review religiously, until I realized almost all of their major complaints were such nitpicky bullshit. For all the people out there who watch movies on kick ass surround sound setups with super huge screens like its some kinda status symbol there's thousands more who generally just love movies. Enjoyment of film is of the utmost importance. I have a feeling that there are a lot of Lexus driving motherfuckers out there who wouldn't know how to enjoy a movie if their heads were clamped in a vice.
But what about the sinkhole?
by coattails
May 9th, 2008
07:10:41 PM
MSNBC covered it pretty good. http://tinyurl.com/6hxgyx
Just read that article link fishpillow posted...
by SK229
May 9th, 2008
10:13:26 PM
and I'm starting to think this demand that every catalogue title look as clean and hyper-real as Ratatouille or Revenge of the Sith really IS going to be a serious issue for cineastes who buy into blu-ray. For those of us who just want as close to the theatrical experience of older films as possible, the fucking grain is SUPPOSED to be there. This pisses me off to no end, I'll tell ya... Thanks SoylentMean too, it's nice to hear that there are people out there who just love the medium and aren't looking for something to direct their OCD towards.

I'm wondering if there's some kind of collective group or a place where people can go to send emails out that say, YES, WE WANT MORE OF THESE OLDER RELEASES AND WE KNOW WHERE TO DRAW THE LINE WHEN NITPICKING OVER THE IMAGE BECAUSE WE MAY HAVE ACTUALLY CARED ENOUGH TO SEE THEM IN THE FUCKING THEATER!!! And again, the whole nitpicking over the color REALLY galls me. Um, unless you were the color timer on the goddamn film, how the hell do you know where the colors are supposed to be? I work as an assistant editor in the business, and I love these job postings looking for people with like 10 years of color correction experience. Unless you were bathed in chemicals during the late 90's, there's no fucking way you have that much experience color correcting on a computer because D.I.'s and digital grading have only really existed on a large scale for the last few years. Then you'll see ads for someone with a 'great eye for color correction.' What the fuck does that mean? Color is completely subjective. And unless they've color corrected for Kubrick or Kieslowski (which, again is actually impossible), how would they know what good color is? I think everyone in post now thinks good color is everything either appearing exactly how it would in real life with no stylistic color choices making it from the lighting on the set to the actual print or DVD or every scene has a garrish 'cast' to it like in the LOTR films, which I think was WAY overdone. The technical side of this business is overrunning the creative side and there's no accounting for taste and discretion anymore. Just one person trying to seem smarter or more experienced than the next because they've had more time on the dials. The issues that I'm talking about with regards to color correction (and what happened to getting it right on the set?) are very close to the same issues with the nitpicking over indie minded HD cameras and then down to blu-ray. And NO, I am NOT bitter! Lol... ahh... ranting in the dark is fun.

Shhh...shh.....SK229. Everything will be okay.
by Lenny Nero
May 10th, 2008
11:11:42 AM
Don't worry. I can hire you in five years to color-correct for me and tell you what would fit the image and story best. Tranquilo...
SPEED OF THE PUMA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by J-Dizzle
May 12th, 2008
01:57:09 AM
Bravestarr owns your ass!!!!
WHERE IS THE CAR?!
by hellnback
May 12th, 2008
11:44:54 PM
WHERE IS THE CAR?!
by hellnback
May 12th, 2008
11:48:14 PM
dammit! where the hell is this movie being sold. i missed my chance the first time around and now that it's supposed to be out again, its nowhere. not at wal mart, not at target, not at ciruit city and not at best buy. hell not even at any of the stores at the mall. did it really come out or was it back ordered everywhere? cuz that's the damn answer i get everytime i've asked for it. i want my "THE CAR".
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