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The DARK KNIGHT Trailer’s Online In HD, And It Is A Thing Of Sick Beauty!

Cannot friggin' wait by DirkD13"	May 4th, 2008 06:52:09 AM
This still seems so far away, and I couldn't care less about any other film this summer in comparison to this (except Pineapple Express).
I can´t wait by CuervoJones	May 4th, 2008 06:52:40 AM
for Indy!
This Summer by Red Diver	May 4th, 2008 06:56:23 AM
Is reminding me of the 1989 summer. Indiana Jones, Batman, Iron Man, and Hulk will rival that summer as one of my favorites ever for movie going!
Uhhhhhhhhh by tjhksig	May 4th, 2008 07:01:09 AM
Ok this leaps over Pineapple Express as my most anticipated movie. Ledger is amazing in this trailer!!
Ooo, looks ace! by Fuck The Napkin	May 4th, 2008 07:05:03 AM
Bring it on.
Niiiiiiice by henrydalton	May 4th, 2008 07:06:45 AM
Ahh, that plays so much better than the bootleg cut seemed to :) And yeah, I doubt that moment really is a spoiler - it might happen, but it won't be like that if they show it in the trailer.
THIS LOOKS EPIC!!!!!!!! by Dr_Zoidberg	May 4th, 2008 07:06:48 AM
NOLAN IS A GENIUS. Seriously, he is doing what we all really want, even if we don't know it. If the running time rumours are true and this runs for roughly 165 minutes then thats ample time to explore Batman/Harvey and have the Joker run rampage. And the narrative won't be ruined, however this works out knowing Nolan it will have surprises where you'd think it impossible to have any. I love how this trailer focuses on the drama of it all rather than showing action, because Batman shouldn't be about action but rather the motivation behind it all, and that's what Noland nailed in Batman Begins. NAILED!!! It didn't hurt that the action kicked ass too, though. And yes, the music is amazing, its existential or at least that's how I read it. Its rich and I'm so glad they've used it with all the trailers, they even had it in the theatrical trailer for Begins. As much as I'm looking forward to Indy, The Dark Knight is the only summer film that will deliver the thrills (and chills) and also have something or worth to discuss in real terms, its dealing with universal themes.
nothing more needs to be said... by just pillow talk	May 4th, 2008 07:07:39 AM
This has all the makings of being the best comic book movie.
165 mins? by henrydalton	May 4th, 2008 07:08:04 AM
Where'd those rumours come from? If that's true it's just made my day ;)
Heath Ledger virtually DISAPPEARS... by Rocco Curioso	May 4th, 2008 07:08:06 AM
... and becomes the Joker without any connection to himself. Complete disassociation. I got that just from seeing this trailer in front of "Iron Man" late Thursday night. None of us have seen his full performance yet, but I'd liken it to Charlize Theron in "Monster". The ability, and the willingness as an actor, to completely vanish. He will steal this movie much as Jack Nicholson did the first Batman movie, except now for all the right reasons.
Hey Mori... by Seany-Wan	May 4th, 2008 07:10:22 AM
I hope you're wrong about that scene at 1:56. I read the LA Times article and it confirmed what I just saw. I freeze framed certain scenes and this trailer does give away a lot! I hope the best is yet to come. Also, is it me or is Batman driving the Batpod through a mall? A nod to the Blues Brothers perhaps?
Iron Man was awesome! by Datascream	May 4th, 2008 07:18:20 AM
I still can't wait for this! So far the comic book movies of the year are looking awesome.
RE: Blues Brothers by JamesT	May 4th, 2008 07:21:57 AM
Since this movie was filmed in Chicago, hopefully Batman had time to take down the Illinois Nazi party.
The scene at 1:56 by Red Diver	May 4th, 2008 07:22:10 AM
Just what many of us were thinking...that character was merely going to be a plot point for the franchise. Hey Eckhart, think about the future!
Another spoiler? Who is driving that van? by Rindain	May 4th, 2008 07:23:31 AM
Freeze the trailer when Batman smashes into the top of the van. Look at who is driving it...could it be?
I believe in Chris Nolan. by Julius Dithers	May 4th, 2008 07:25:21 AM
That trailer was so good it pissed me off the movie's so far away. It looks like good crime fiction rather than just another comic book property. This will tide me over until The Shield returns in the fall.
Another reason to hit the theaters this summer by Shub-Wankalot	May 4th, 2008 07:25:25 AM
Sweet surrender!
Eric Roberts? by jedijaybird@comc	May 4th, 2008 07:30:33 AM
Check out the 00:31 mark, Is that Eric Roberts on the left side of screen right behine the guys who's resting on the table?
Rindain: Good catch. by Julius Dithers	May 4th, 2008 07:31:58 AM
Can I show you my mask?
HOLEEEEE by Kragmose	May 4th, 2008 07:32:49 AM
Shit.
Yay! by Larry Sellers	May 4th, 2008 07:33:14 AM
God I hope Batman doesn't catch Rachel.
What a load of shite... by Pawprint	May 4th, 2008 07:36:14 AM
Totally pisses on the Batman mythos; an absolute fucking travesty. Anyway, enough about Batman & Robin; TDK looks amazing! I will say though, not seeing why Ledger's performance is giving people multiple orgasms; I don't think it is bad by any stretch of the imagination, just not spectacular. Still better than Jack Nicholson's Joker though..
This looks like it might fix some of Begins' flaws by IndustryKiller!	May 4th, 2008 07:41:19 AM
So far this looks brilliant in no small part to Heath Ledger. Incredible that we really might have lost the best actor of his generation.
HATE IT. by Merriman Lyon	May 4th, 2008 07:41:25 AM
Once again, they've got it all wrong. Batman Begins was like watching paint dry. And now we get more stupid gadgets and a boring "realistic" take on the character. Everything about this "re-imagined" franchise is misconceived. Batman isn't Jason Bourne and I wish they'd stop trying to force him to be. Creating individual backstories for Batman's high-tech machinery is like Lucas explaining away The Force by way of midi-chlorians. Stupid, stupid. Michael Caine's Mockney portrayal of Alfred is insulting and incongruous. As for the Joker: it's a tragedy that Heath Ledger died - but that doesn't suddenly make him a good actor: his performance in this movie looks self-conscious, hammy, and could be done by just about any actor his age.
This looks really great. by TomHooligan	May 4th, 2008 07:43:17 AM
I've been re-reading "the Long halloween" and "dark victory" in preperation for the film. I love the way they're building up Harvey Dent as much more than a steriotypical villain. I think Eckhart is gonna make us all forget about the Tommy Lee Jones debacle. Also, was i mistaken or did i see the Joker throw rachel off a roof (maybe a sly nod to burton's batman). Personally i hope she gets killed. I love Maggie G and everything, but i think a successful villain is measured by his deeds. I can't think of anything more impressive than killing Batman's girl. Regardless, im not expecting a Peter Parker/ Mary Jane Watson finale!
The knight is darkest nefore the dawn by ingloriousjedi	May 4th, 2008 07:46:27 AM
The dawn being the first screening of this. So its pretty dark now. Cant wait. Love the image of Bale in the bat suit in the high rise. That image sums up the film for me.
Realism in TDK by Soulpt	May 4th, 2008 07:50:28 AM
I hope the movie strikes the right balance b/w the comic book and real world. I saw Iron Man the other night & loved it. What worked best was how it occurred in modern times/real world (i.e. Afghanistan) but managed to have more than enough comic book/superhero imagery & action to enjoy the temporary suspension of belief. Like Begins my fear is that it won't...
Ledger bashers now? by Larry Sellers	May 4th, 2008 07:53:49 AM
Anything else you'd care to bitch about? I don't see it as a Nicholson impersonation. Looks more like they've both played the same character.
Merriman Lyon by wookie1972	May 4th, 2008 07:54:42 AM
...You don't know what you're talking about. Michael Caine's "Mockney" portrayal? Caine was born in South London, and is a 100% true Cockney. Trash the movie if you want, but get your facts straight. I've been anticipating a Ledger backlash for awhile here, and it looks like it's starting. Personally, I think it's brilliant. What none of the previous screen versions got across was that the Joker is INSANE.
This is Nolan by wookie1972	May 4th, 2008 07:55:46 AM

This is Nolan's movie 100%... by wookie1972	May 4th, 2008 07:56:01 AM

two vigilantes by hesky75	May 4th, 2008 07:58:01 AM
batman and two face both chase the joker !! with the latter being the more extreme.... how cool is that !!?
This is Nolan's movie 100%... by wookie1972	May 4th, 2008 07:59:14 AM
...just as Batman Returns was Burton's movie 100%. The first Burton movie was good, but it seemed more created by committee, whereas Batman Returns was, for better or worse, Burton's vision alone. Similarly, I think Batman Begins had some compromises, whereas The Dark Knight is totally Nolan. If you don't like it, you have over 1000 issues of the comic to read. Suck it up.
hesky by Larry Sellers	May 4th, 2008 08:00:32 AM
YES. I like that little bit of The Long Halloween they've taken and made to fit this plot. It's all so exciting!
hesky75 by wookie1972	May 4th, 2008 08:01:00 AM
I've heard that rumour, and I think it's really cool. Much better than the "let's team up against the superhero" crap from the previous movies and the Spider-Man flicks.
Another yawnfest by Hooded Justice	May 4th, 2008 08:01:05 AM
Not one of the Batman movies has got it right. They try to put it in modern-day New York and give Batman idiotic armour and vehicles. This should be set in the thirties like the original comic - and it should be low-tech and low-budget. So far the best visualisation I've seen was in that short fan film, Dead End - although they messed it up by sticking in Aliens and such-like. Can't see what's so good about Ledger's performance. Based on this trailer, I'd say it looks slightly below average.
Wookie by Larry Sellers	May 4th, 2008 08:03:44 AM
What do you think of Nolan having even more creative control over TDK? It looks promising, but so does every other trailer. Will it be "too much" as Burton's BR was? Both involved taking several creative liberties (Burton - Penguin/Catwoman's origin; Nolan - Joker/Two-Face's origin).
KICK ASS!!! by Mike_D	May 4th, 2008 08:03:59 AM
cant wait!
To paraphrase Frank Miller by blindambition238	May 4th, 2008 08:04:29 AM
You can write Batman 1000 different ways and still be right. Thats the beauty of the character.
To All The Haters... by Frat Boy	May 4th, 2008 08:05:04 AM
Attention queers. Listen, this movie is gonna rock fucking balls and you all know it! There is no "Hey, let's make a list of pro and cons." Fuck that nonsense. It's all pro from what we've seen. Oh, and here's the counter argument for "Batman Begins is bad": you're an idiot! Fanboys have been bitching forever about how they want a "realistic" comic book movie. Well, Nolan gave it to us. Guess what? It can only be so "real" up to a certain point. Superheroes don't exist. And in case you haven't noticed, we don't have them in REAL LIFE. Hang on to your socks cuz TDK is gonna knock 'em off.
Hooded Justice by wookie1972	May 4th, 2008 08:05:42 AM
Two problems with your idea - 1) Batman was always "high-tech", at least for its time. The original Kane/Finger Batman was flying around most of the time on his glider. 2) If you've actually read the 30s Batman, they're really not that good. The idea of the golden age of Batman is kind of a myth. For real quality Batman stories, you have to go to the Denny O'Neill/Neal Adams stuff from the 70s.
hooded justice by Larry Sellers	May 4th, 2008 08:07:04 AM
Even if Dead End was faithful to Batman's SUIT...it still had him wielding two huge, bat-shaped blades which come out of NOWHERE. Also you don't get to see much of Gotham at all save a rooftop and an alley. I'm glad we both agree the AvP bit was ludicrous, but a Batman period film is probably best left with fan-flicks.
This will be the BEST this summer, this year, this ... uhm.. Thi by AlmightyBong	May 4th, 2008 08:07:29 AM
If only i can get my MAC to work correctly so it wouldn't seem that the video is on a play-pause mode... and if i can get my audio on my PC to work, i would be enjoying the trailer... but life is not fair... rant, rant, rant... all the same this is just THE best!
Larry Sellers by wookie1972	May 4th, 2008 08:10:45 AM
I think I trust Nolan a little more than Burton, or rather I appreciate his version more. There's an interesting book by a guy named Will Brooker called Batman Unmasked that argues, among other things, that the character is so durable that it can survive all these different variations. Personally, I think the 90s animated version was brilliant, but there is no "definitive" Batman.
at 2 03 in the trailer you get a glimpse of two face by quilo2008	May 4th, 2008 08:12:21 AM
when harvey is holding de revolver at his forehead, the suit is alredy burnt and also his face, the hand doesnt present scar though
Caine's knees-up Alfred by Merriman Lyon	May 4th, 2008 08:15:48 AM
Yeah, right, Wookie, Caine is as Cockney as a Peraly King. Horseshit. He may have come from London a long time ago - but now his accent is no more true Cockney than Heath Ledger's is true Australian. Caine has been a MOVIE STAR for almost half a century - and has been trading on his pretend-Cockney accent during that time. Alfred is supposed to be a posh, stiff-upper-lip British butler. Caine's ridiculous half-eel pie, half-Hollywood accent is just pure laziness. He's been running on autopilot for a couple of decades. So, Wookie, get on the Dog-and-Bone: call up a real Cockney and tell me they sound anything like Caine's slurring. So you've been anticipating the Heath Ledger backlash? Well why didn't you say something? We could've got it going sooner. Anyway, from the trailers, he looks all wrong for the role.
wookie by Larry Sellers	May 4th, 2008 08:18:36 AM
I'll have to check out that book. I've never thought there to be a concrete version of Batman. Comic characters are constantly changing so much that there's almost no standard to measure a current incarnation against. There are always some aspects (mainly origin and principles) that can't be changed, but they probably will be. I think BR is my favorite of the Burton/Schumacher films simply for its bizarre take on the villains. But there's not even a concrete definition of a "faithful adaptation" when it comes to these things. If modern superhero films were faithful (set in the era of their inception as suggested a minute ago), the audience wouldn't be able to relate to the material one bit.
Didn't take long for the haters to arrive... by vintagecrow	May 4th, 2008 08:19:46 AM
..it is almost if they have an agenda. Me, I can't wait. This movie will rock. I trust Nolan and I love how he pays homage to several aspects of Batman, though the first one had its flaws, I think he will more than make up for it with this one. I still think Begins has been the best Batman to date. It was closer to the one I read as a kid and as an adult. That is if Morrison doesn't screw up the mythos.
Weaker than the last trailer by Interficium	May 4th, 2008 08:20:59 AM
Not impressed with what I'm seeing from Eckart. The "darkest before the dawn" and "live long enough to see yourself become the villain" lines are pretty terrible. And what's with ending a goddamn BATMAN trailer with a montage of Lamborghini jump-cuts?
Merriman Lyon by wookie1972	May 4th, 2008 08:22:29 AM
Sorry, but the man was born and bred right in the heart of what is commonly considered Cockney territory. He's had to put on a bullshit accent for so many movies, I think it's cool that he can still play a Cockney. Frankly, I don't care if the Alfred of the comic is supposed to be posh, I'd rather have Caine than some anonymous actor. Michael Gough was pretty good in the first four movies, but so what? It's Michael Caine!
Awesome on a stick! by SkidMarkedUndies	May 4th, 2008 08:24:25 AM
Also, are you people insinuating that Scarecrow was driving the van? Because I cant get the damn slider to stop at the right point to see it.
god some of you fucks are twisted by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks	May 4th, 2008 08:26:22 AM
Its just a movie, and Heath was a great actor. I suggest you check out Candy to see a real performance.
Are those guns on the Batpod? by GrubStreeter	May 4th, 2008 08:28:38 AM
This looks amazing, but isn't Batman very anti-gun?
Period Batman by Hooded Justice	May 4th, 2008 08:28:50 AM
Seventies could work okay - but Batman seems seriously out of place in the Gotham City in which Nolan places him. The attempts to "modernise" him with military equipment and armour are incredibly boring. Batman's gadgets were always discreet and clever - more of a smoke-and-mirrors deal than the GEARS OF WAR heavy weaponry he's now using. Dead End has a fair few stupid things in it - overacting Joker, aliens, switchblades etc. But they get the LOOK of the costume and the lighting right - at least better than any of the big-budget movies have. But I still contend that they should set a Batman movie in the 1930s. Doesn't mean they have to make it cheesy like the comics from that period.
Holy rusty metal Batman. by HarryBlackPotter	May 4th, 2008 08:31:08 AM
Looks great. Can't wait.
Re: Batman Unmasked by rbatty024	May 4th, 2008 08:33:00 AM
That's an interesting academic take on Batman. The whole "durable" character take is the result of the author arguing from a post-structuralist point of view. Albeit I think he has a limited understanding of post-structuralism, but it doesn't hurt his argument too much. His defense of the sixties Batman show is great. Although I thought his defense of Dr. Werthem's Seduction of the Innocent was a little hackneyed (once again because of not fully understanding post-structuralism). Definitely worth a look if you, like myself, are really interested in Batman or, not like myself, are really interested in pop culture studies.
Freaking by Shepard Bauer	May 4th, 2008 08:33:13 AM
awesome!
Heavy Spoiler by AlmightyBong	May 4th, 2008 08:35:40 AM
Well, if no one knows it yet.. Looks like Rachel will be engaged to Harvey Dent and will then be killed by the Joker. I'm referencing the article linked by SHH where either Nolan or Eckhart mentioned that Dent's fiancee will be killed...
Holy shit!!! by SID 8.0	May 4th, 2008 08:36:10 AM
This looks better every time I see more of it. Don't know where the few haters are coming from but they should go back. at least they won't be in front of me in line at the theater opening night. This is turning into great movie summer.
Hooded Justice by Interficium	May 4th, 2008 08:36:31 AM
A good point about a potential crack in the whole Batman "Nolanverse." I have to admit I'm not really a fan of the Batpod, and apparently the new suit tech is some major plot point in TDK. The whole focus on the equipment and such reminds me a lot of the late 90s, pre-No Man's Land Batman comics.
Gawd- CAN'T WAIT by Judge Briggs	May 4th, 2008 08:38:08 AM
And I hear it's almost 3 hours long? Mother fucker- going to be epic filled with awesomness.
Oh and still, F Burton's take by Judge Briggs	May 4th, 2008 08:38:38 AM
So cheesy
Hooded Justice if you don't like it... by vintagecrow	May 4th, 2008 08:38:51 AM
..don't see it. Personally I love what Nolan has done. If you want a period Batman, then the animated series is great. Sure Begins had flaws, not enough emphasize on Batman's detective skills or his inventiveness, but Nolan capture the spirit as well as bringing it out just what it was, Batman Begins, not Batman Experienced. He also brought about a sense of reality and the duality of the character. I liked that. It was a Batman that was closer to the material by Miller and O'Neal. Many nay sayers are Burton fans, it is ok to like Nolan and still like the original Batman and it was flawed as well as Returns. Neither of those movies followed canon, nor were the gadgets even believable. It was just visual eye candy and frankly both disregarded the mythos with no apologetics.
Two-Face by jdawg61384	May 4th, 2008 08:41:11 AM
did anyone notice as Harvey Dent rest the gun on his head you see part of the deformaty of his face.
Romero is still THE Joker by Uncle Stan	May 4th, 2008 08:41:21 AM
...painted moustache and all!
Just upgraded from from the Apple IIe, by hillvalley	May 4th, 2008 08:41:33 AM
can someone point me in the direction of the non-hd version of this trailer?
Hamill is still THE Joker by Interficium	May 4th, 2008 08:45:43 AM
Always terrific at the role, even given the constraints of a kid-rated cartoon. Imagine what he could have done in a more adult-skewing project such as Nolan's movies. It was only glimpsed in "Mask of the Phantasm." Of course, he's pushing 60 these days.
frame by frame while in pause by Acne Scarface	May 4th, 2008 08:47:05 AM
use left/right arrows on keyboard. i just figured that out now.
Only one concern.... by vintagecrow	May 4th, 2008 08:48:14 AM
I have total faith in Bale, he has proven to me he is Batman and Ledger is going to bring the Joker full tilt. Also the supporting cast is excellent, especially Oldman as Gordon. I just hope that Eckart can pull off the duality of Two Face...because he is going to be the lead in to the next installment. I guess I should relax and trust Nolan and Eckart, after all Eckart was great in "Thank You for Smoking", though I have not yet seen him play a psychotic villian before.
I would love a period superhero film. by rbatty024	May 4th, 2008 08:49:09 AM
They've done it before (The Rocketeer and The Shadow) but I think since those movies producers have decided that a period superhero movie is too confusing to audiences. People would be wondering why the cars look so weird and why people aren't just pulling out their cell phone. DC needs to do a period version of Justice Society of America. That would be the perfect property for a period superhero flick.
Scarecrow is in the Van/Two-Face is in the car by Darth Durden	May 4th, 2008 08:51:25 AM
You can freeze the trailer at the right time and see a man with a brown mask right before batman smashes it. It would make sense since I never felt the Scarecrow part was resolved in Batman Begins. Especially since it was Rachel dealing with him, so dark knight could start up with Batman going after Scarecrow and putting him Arkham Asylum. Then you can see Harvey Dent is scared when he is holding up the gun in the car...probably going after Joker as the same time as Batman.
rbatty by vintagecrow	May 4th, 2008 08:51:49 AM
Wait for Rami to do the Shadow, which he wanted to do but couldn't get the rights for and did the Dark Man instead. Personally I would love to see Rami do the Shadow based soley on the pulps and forget that Radio invisibility nonsense. The Shadow of the pulps did not turn invisible, he was just a good ninja, also was one of the inspirations for Kane's Batman.
Can't stand the Burton movies... by Hooded Justice	May 4th, 2008 08:52:30 AM
Burton is more of a fairy-tale man - which is why his Batman movies don't really work. Burton can be great when he's making his own projects - but is quite poor when working within some one else's franchise. I'd like a low-budget Batman that concentrates on his detective skills. It should be set in 30s New York and be a film noir, like The Maltese falcon or The Big Sleep. I just don't buy Batman in the 21st Century. For the same reason, Peter Jackson decided to keep his version of King Kong in the original 30s setting where it belonged.
by Dogsoldier77	May 4th, 2008 08:53:34 AM
All you Dark Knight/ Begins haters... you're online at 9 am on a Sunday commenting on the trailer, so joke's on you, you pants-wetting anguished manchildren. Sorry your life is empty, but that doesn't mean functioning people need to deal with your bullshit. Cool things to note: What looks like candles behind the Joker in that shot is actually the mob's money, on fire. Both Michael Jai White and Eric Roberts are in that mob scene... Roberts looks like quite the smug douche. That is definitely the Scarecrow in the van, which is really surprising. Two-Face's suit is burned, thank god. And we also get a little tease of Batman's extended beat-down on the Joker in the police holding cell... seems to be whipping the fucker's head into a wall. Awesome, awesome, awesome. As for whoever said Eckhardt's delivery is bad... It's not fucking Crispin's Day, he sounds perfectly natural.
STOP USING THE WORD 'HATER'S' by lb	May 4th, 2008 08:53:50 AM
IT'S DATED AND LAME!!!! But getting back on point.....the trailer is alright, I prefer the trailer before. I was not a major fan of Batman Begins (I admit that Batman Returns is still my favourite movie...go on slate me all you like), but I am really looking forward to this one.
I can buy Batman in the 21 Century... by vintagecrow	May 4th, 2008 08:54:58 AM
...I still buy the comics. =)
I was unaware that the Shadow didn't turn invisible... by rbatty024	May 4th, 2008 08:56:21 AM
in the comics. My only exposure to the character has been the movie and tapes of the old radio show where Orson Welles played the Shadow. I agree that Raimi would be a great choice, although I wonder if he's still interested in Superheroes after he spent years working on Spider-Man.
Joker's voice is kind of throwing me off a bit. by smackfu	May 4th, 2008 08:57:52 AM
When most people do a stereotypical 'nerd impersonation' the voice they use is pretty close to the one Ledger has assigned to the Joker. It's kind of distracting...it sounds like one of your friends, who can't do voices worth shit, is trying to do a 'nerd' voice. other than it looks great
oh god I hate this site by heyscot	May 4th, 2008 08:58:21 AM
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Rami is still interested by vintagecrow	May 4th, 2008 08:58:25 AM
Also I believe Sony got the rights. I will do some digging and find out more info. Rami is now in position to do what he originally wanted to do and was still wanting to do it. But he also talked about a sequel to Army of Darkness and we are still waiting on that.
Foolish fanboy mortals... by Rocco Curioso	May 4th, 2008 08:58:35 AM
You will FEEL the rash wisdom of my insolence when Heath Ledger nabs an Oscar nom for his role here. A first for comic book movies; the Academy never passes up an opportunity to appear enlightened when the moment is right. You didn't hear it here first, but not without such pissant indignation. See you on the red carpet.
THREE HOURS? WTF? by Merriman Lyon	May 4th, 2008 08:58:47 AM
Three hours for a summer blockbuster? You're kidding. A summer blockbuster needs to be one hour and a half - two hours at the most. This isn't Lawrence Of Arabia, for God's sake - it's a superhero movie! Since when did these movies start getting delusions of grandeur. I can guarantee you that out of the three hours, at least forty minutes will be irrelevant drivel.
Maybe Ledger can come back in for last minute ADR by smackfu	May 4th, 2008 08:58:52 AM
Anyone got 2 shovels and a flashlight? Too soon?
It's so nice to see.... by Underoos Hero	May 4th, 2008 08:59:36 AM
...that there are some of you that understand why Batman doesn't look right in the world Nolan has given him. Damnit....There is hope.
Oh and the pulps weren't comics persay by vintagecrow	May 4th, 2008 09:00:21 AM
They were novellas. The Shadow was basically written and created by Walter B. Gibson, Houdini's biographer. One of the reasons the Shadow was an exceptional escape artist =)
to all of you assholes bitching about this movie by ultimateedition	May 4th, 2008 09:00:35 AM
do the rest of us who are exicted about dark knight,a favor, and stay home on opening day, who gives a flying fuck about your dumbass comments,dont think your gonna like the movie, then stay home and shut the fuck up..yeah right, like thats gonna happen anyways, we all know you already bought your tickets
to all of you assholes bitching about us.. by Underoos Hero	May 4th, 2008 09:05:27 AM
..bitching about this movie, do the rest of us who are NOT excited about Dark Knight a favor and you go on opening day, who gives a flying fuck about your comment...
Screw 1:56 - It's about 2:03 by BackwardGalaxy	May 4th, 2008 09:06:40 AM
Take a good look at Dent's face.
Here you rbatty by vintagecrow	May 4th, 2008 09:06:43 AM
and it is from Ain't It Cool News http://www.aintitcool.com/node /30905
The Dark Knight Returns by O_Goncho	May 4th, 2008 09:08:21 AM
Yeah, trailer looks epic and all, but I'm thinking about the next film, and Comic gods willing there will be one. What with Heath being unavailable for another how about (assuming it doesn't set itself up unavoidably for a direct continuation like the first one did,) skipping a few decades and seeing how a (convincingly) aged Christian Bateman has coped with years of doling out rough justice but never quite made the impact he wanted, then giving up, returning, etc, etc. No? Well, I guess not, but I thought it sounded good before I started typing.
Aaron Eckhart? by JackieJokeman	May 4th, 2008 09:09:15 AM
How did an American slip through the casting process?
JackieJokeman by vintagecrow	May 4th, 2008 09:11:28 AM
heh,...I had to admit that made me laugh. True. Hopefully Eckart will be the surprise in The Dark Knight. I am crossing my fingers. Bale and Ledger have proven themselves to me. It seems that they are keep Harvey a tad under wraps...maybe he will be the scene stealer we won't expect? Well..maybe...either way I am hyped.
so basically by Jackie Boy	May 4th, 2008 09:13:07 AM
Nolan should dumb the movie down, cutting over an hour of footage and most likely turning the story into an incoherent mess (See the dumbed down two hour cut of ONCE UPON A TIME IN AMERICA, for another example) because it's just a summer blockbuster? It's just a superhero movie, right, we should make 'em more like FANTASTIC FOUR, right? Ha. And they're actually trying to make, I don't know, an actual damn fine motion picture for the ages. Don't they realize it's summer? We need more shit like STEEL.
Rbatty by wookie1972	May 4th, 2008 09:13:31 AM
I can't claim to understand post-structuralism, but I agree with you about Brooker on the Batman TV show. His best point, IMHO, is that for a kid, the TV show was completely serious.
Dark Knight looks great but.... by BacardiRocky	May 4th, 2008 09:15:20 AM
I kind of agree with Hooded Justice on setting a Batman film like a period piece, only like Sin City instead. Keep it current but retro, only make it more film noir. One thing that the Live action movies can never get right are Batmans eyes. It adds so much to the character to have these white eyes showing up in a dark ally. Only way to do that would be to make a live action Batman film Sin City/The Spirit style. I liked the first two Burton films, loved Begins but Mask of the Phantasm is in my opinion the best Batman movie to date. A live action Sin Citytype Batman movie could be like The Animated Series.
Jackie Boy by Underoos Hero	May 4th, 2008 09:15:56 AM
Nolan's already done this with BB. No reason to beleive that he won't do this with TDK. You know the part about dumbing the movie down. and the story being an incoherent mess. Yea, he's done that already.
Oh and found this on Youtube by BacardiRocky	May 4th, 2008 09:17:11 AM
HBO first look of Batman Mask of the Phantasm part 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =nlEfSO6Yops part 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =JdS2hi4Xsm0&NR=1
BacardiRocky & Hooded Justice by Underoos Hero	May 4th, 2008 09:17:53 AM
I have been preaching this SAME thing on these Talkbacks for 6 months. Good to see that there are others startgin to see this or at least say something.
vintagecrow by wookie1972	May 4th, 2008 09:18:08 AM
Have you read any of the recent reissues of The Spider novellas? They are fricking insane, and they basically created the crimefighter-as-psychopath paradigm. Raimi could do a great movie of it, but it would be too cute for him to do that after doing Spider-Man.
I have a problem with the city itself... by Jim Jam Bongs	May 4th, 2008 09:19:43 AM
Maybe it's because I've traveled to these cities, but "Gotham City" is obviously a mish-mash of Chicago and London. The problem is that Nolan used locations that are instantly familiar with their respective cities. (For cryin' out, there's Chicago's One LaSalle Street, which was most famously used as a location in The Untouchables.) And, hell, are they going to digitally remove the corporate logos? (Like Chase and Starbucks?) Seeing those logos takes me out of the setting. The props, vehicles, actors and costumes are definitely of the Batman universe, but these elements look out of place in what we're supposed to believe is "Gotham".
This trailer in HD is the mother (and father) of them all.. by Aethyrr	May 4th, 2008 09:20:01 AM
..and the movie will be too. TDK will rule.
Underoos Hero by ultimateedition	May 4th, 2008 09:20:15 AM
only a.d.d. retards like you would think that nolan dumbs down batman... and its "believe" not "beleive", dummy...
wookie by vintagecrow	May 4th, 2008 09:20:32 AM
I haven't read the recent reissues but I did read two of them when I was a kid. I actually found the pulps at a garage sale for 2 for a nickle. My mom, realized what they were, she read them when she was a kid. heh..I read them and yeah, the Spider, the Master of Men was really an insane violent pulp hero.
Jim Jam Bongs by Underoos Hero	May 4th, 2008 09:21:19 AM
YES YES YES!!! Keep preaching brother...Again people are starting to recognize this. Dude I have been saying this over and over again and these peeps aint gettin it. Tell it on the mountain.
Underoos Hero... by vintagecrow	May 4th, 2008 09:22:02 AM
weren't you the huge Burton fan that keeps cropping up on these threads to dis Nolan?
ultimateedition by Underoos Hero	May 4th, 2008 09:22:25 AM
Thank you Dictionary.com.
Underoos Hero by ultimateedition	May 4th, 2008 09:23:31 AM
no problem, now, quit proving you are an idiot and go outside, and do something productive
vintagecrow by Underoos Hero	May 4th, 2008 09:24:21 AM
Never said I was huge burton fan. That is assumed. But the ideals that Burton had as far as creating an environement for Batman is the way this should go. Not stick Batman in front of a Citi Bank and Starbucks in the middle of Chicago. Terrible shit.
We don't need another Sin City by wookie1972	May 4th, 2008 09:24:55 AM
One was enough, thank you, and it's quite lame what Miller is doing with The Spirit. I'm getting really tired of neo-noir. What Nolan seems to be going for is a 70s style a la French Connection or the Parallax View. It's a bold move, but I think it will work.
Thanks vintagecrow. by rbatty024	May 4th, 2008 09:25:06 AM
A Raimi Shadow would kick ass, especially if it took place in the thirties or forties. The article was from some time ago so hopefully Raimi's still on that track. Wookie, Batman Unmasked really changed my view of the Adam West TV show. Like everyone else I used to look down on it, but when you go back and watch it, you realize it was doing two things at once. It was giving action and adventure to a younger crowd and it was a campy comedy to the parents. On a lark some friends of mine in high school rented the Adam West Batman movie and nearly died laughing. It was genuinely funny and there are moments where they signal that you're supposed to laugh at the movie.
ultimateedition by Underoos Hero	May 4th, 2008 09:25:16 AM
hahaha...and what you are doing?
wookie1972 by Underoos Hero	May 4th, 2008 09:26:10 AM
And the goddamned 70's aren't played out?
I thought so Underoos by vintagecrow	May 4th, 2008 09:26:31 AM
You are the one that is the Burton fan. Look I love Burton's visuals...but you know what? I like Nolan's too. Terrible shit is Batman programing his batarang to take out henchmen and it gets caught by a poodle....
Underoos Hero by ultimateedition	May 4th, 2008 09:26:41 AM
fucking your mum of course.... wahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!
Look at 00:52 by Monkey Butler	May 4th, 2008 09:26:46 AM
As if that isn't a Sin City homage.
uhm eh... by AlmightyBong	May 4th, 2008 09:28:18 AM
"But the ideals that Burton had as far as creating an environement for Batman is the way this should go." -- excuse me?
ultimateedition by Underoos Hero	May 4th, 2008 09:28:34 AM
You're a witty guy. Is that an original ultimateedition line?
Underoos Hero by ultimateedition	May 4th, 2008 09:29:37 AM
that's what your mum says.. hehehe
I refuse to watch. by mefrog	May 4th, 2008 09:29:45 AM
When the trailer came on during Iron Man I left the theatre. No way am I having any more of this movie revealed to me.
I like Nolan's Gotham... by wookie1972	May 4th, 2008 09:29:48 AM
Because he opened up the city. Burton's Gotham seemed smaller, like a few soundstages. Gotham is not just New York, it's supposed to incorporate the whole idea of a major city, and who cares if it's more like Chicago?
Ups the ante... by Andillformthehead	May 4th, 2008 09:30:13 AM
Someone had an issue with the tech in this movie and BB. Isn't this "escalation" by the Batman a current (past 20 years) and constant theme in the books, etc. I admit I am a casual fan but all the tech seems correct. As his villains become more out there he has to up the ante. "Rubber bullets, honest" and all that. Also I like an almost "superhuman" infallible Batman like in the comics (at least when it comes to detective skill, stamina, luck etc.) But I like this "Begins" Batman, he needs a little help now and then. Kinda like The Shadows "network". He needs Gordon, Lucius and Rachel. We are in on the learning process; The creation of a Legend.
Iron man best superhero movie ever made by JeanLuc Dickhard	May 4th, 2008 09:30:46 AM
this will suck after the first half like the last one ....
Heath and 30's setting by bender7	May 4th, 2008 09:30:48 AM
Hath was not one of the best actors ever, but he was a very good character actor. You only need to look a bit more into his work beyond Brokeback to see it. 10 Things I Hate About You, the aussie movie Two Hands and Ned Kelly, The Brothers Grimm and as Bob Dylan in I'm Not There. All very different roles, and I think after TDK he would have had his choice of great roles. Given that he has been so overexposed in the media since his death it would be nice if the disrespectful comments and Kurt Cobain comparisons could be kept out of here The other thing about the 30's setting, although different it wouldn't work. Firstly, it would be very complicated to shoot both a period piece and an action movie. Especially for a period like the thirties. Secondly, the updated time appeals more to the auidence. I mean, who wants to see Batman drive around in a souped up jalop and clib buidlings with a hadn thrown grappling hook. Plus. Batman is really timeless, setting him in a modern time just make sense
"And here.. we.. go" by Aethyrr	May 4th, 2008 09:30:52 AM
I love this JOKER
Actually Burton didn't create the enviroment... by vintagecrow	May 4th, 2008 09:31:55 AM
Anton Furst did. It fit for the time and the atmosphere and I enjoyed them. They just don't fit in Nolan's world which is more of a Frank Miller, Denny O'Neal world.
iron man by ultimateedition	May 4th, 2008 09:32:50 AM
and i liked iron man until the last half hour.. the climatic battle was just too.. boring
You know..it surprises me by vintagecrow	May 4th, 2008 09:34:23 AM
that people are screaming Iron Man is better and will beat the Dark Knight. Who cares? Enjoy both of them for what they are and keep your geek fanboi at home...geeesh...that is juvenille.
No, the 70s aren't played out... by wookie1972	May 4th, 2008 09:34:24 AM
And the 70s was THE time for Batman comics. Most of what people like about the brooding Batman who fights crime alone comes straight from O'Neill/Adams and Englehart/Rogers/Austin. In any case, it's not as played out as the silly neo-noir look.
Jim Jam Bongs - that's why I love the city by Steve Rogers	May 4th, 2008 09:36:49 AM
Yeah, it's obviously Chicago, but you have to be willing to suspend disbelief to some degree. At last Gotham City feels like an actual city and not a few blocks of gothic design on a backlot - there is depth and scope and scale and REALITY to it. Begins had that to some degree until the shitty 3rd act train chase. Am hoping that Nolan delivers more of the big, wide and open Gotham in the film.
Englehart/Rogers/Austin run by vintagecrow	May 4th, 2008 09:36:58 AM
in no way resembled Burton's Gotham.
There's nothing 'Seventies' about Nolan's Gotham. by Merriman Lyon	May 4th, 2008 09:37:21 AM
It's all shiny and modern with designer 'smoke' like a Michael Jackson music video from the 'Bad' album. Looks nothing like Gotham. What Nolan has failed to understand is that the city itself is a character in the Batman universe. You can't just stick Batman on top of some corporate office building and say that's Gotham City. Sin City worked as a comic book. Less well as a movie, in my opinion - though it was an interesting experiment. I agree that they should do a retro Batman. If it was set in the thirties, than that would increase the impact of his gadgets. Nowadays, we are surrounded by technological gadgets anyway - so Batman's toys just make us go,"meh".
rbatty by wookie1972	May 4th, 2008 09:37:27 AM
What is interesting is that Brooker (a real fan who has actually read and watched the source material) saw how the 40s era movie serial could be read as both serious and camp and that that in turn spawned the 60s series. He also points out, and its well documented, that the 60s series SAVED BATMAN'S ASS, which was that close to being cancelled.
on Iron Man by AlmightyBong	May 4th, 2008 09:38:40 AM
I don't know if it's just me, but i feel like Iron Man is a little short of something... all the same, it still is a good film... But TDK will be better, and that is for sure!
Also Wookie... by vintagecrow	May 4th, 2008 09:39:51 AM
I agree that the Englehart/Rodgers/Austin run is considered the definitive Batman by many, but you can't rule out Miller's "early" contribution to Batman or Moore's. Though I think Miller has lost his mind on All Star.
vintagecrow by wookie1972	May 4th, 2008 09:40:11 AM
exactly. The Gotham of Englehart/Rogers/Austin was not stylized at all (except, ironically, for a Bill Finger homage with a giant typewriter). It was a real city, overrun with crime but not a gothic nightmare.
Still badass four viewings later by Dogsoldier77	May 4th, 2008 09:40:36 AM
I love how in charge the Joker is... makes you want something awful to happen to him immediately. Judging from what we've seen, I bet Bats kills the Joker before the final act. Maybe in the holding cell - how's that for gritty? Why would Maroni suddenly be involved if his hired thug were still running and gunning? Rachel gets killed, Bats goes batshit and kills the Joker, Maroni fucks up Aaron Eckhardt's face and Bruce has to stop him from killing everybody responsible. Neat and tidy, don't you think? And it's pretty obvious Rachel cops it because we don't see much of her outside those few party scenes - God willing. If you can blow up a fucking hospital (still a little uncomfortable about this - too much?) you can drop Maggie Gylenhall out a fucking window.
Underoos Hero by Jim Jam Bongs	May 4th, 2008 09:41:18 AM
The way Nolan has cobbled together Gotham City is flat-out amateurish, which I find surprising since I do not consider him an amateurish director at all. I understand that he wanted Gotham to be less gothic (regardless that the city's name is "Gotham"), and I can defend his creative choice for doing that in this movie (the "new" architecture of the city evolves from gothic and neo-classical towards '70s modern, skyscrapers, tall, lots of lines, etc.). But the "old parts" of Gotham still look recognizable as the streets and buildings of London, and the "new parts" are the Windy City. We would laugh if an aspiring filmmaker shot a film short on video, shooting at landmark locations in San Francisco and Seattle and had his cast pretend the movie is set in a fictitious "New Hippy-tropolis" or something. And WTF is with leaving all the modern-day corporate logos? (And I don't think they are paid product placements, as they are not prominently seen, but the are still apparent -- they were just left there, and Nolan and his cinematographer didn't bother staging camera angles to block out corporate signs.) I wonder if this has anything to do with the fact that Nolan absolutely adores Blade Runner (I do, too) and felt that leaving in the corporate logos was similar to the way corporate logos in the Blade Runner cityscape added "grit" to the environment. Well, based on these trailers for TDK, it doesn't work. And, besides, those corporate logos in Blade Runner were intentionally put in and staged for that movie itself.
Ledger's voice is like a cross between Nicholson by half vader	May 4th, 2008 09:43:10 AM
(not his Joker Neccessarily but just Jack), and Paul Lynde, in slo-mo! Car-reeepy!
Jim Jam Bongs by ultimateedition	May 4th, 2008 09:43:24 AM
so.. im guessing you are staying home and not waste your money on dark knight right?
Quit saying it should be a 30s period pieace... by wookie1972	May 4th, 2008 09:47:21 AM
The comic started in 1939, so we should technically be saying 40s, and in any case, the "dark" Batman really only lasted for a couple years, and was already done basically by the time Robin debuted. The main thing that comes through in Brooker's book is that the idea of a golden age of the dark Batman is largely a myth. The 70s writers and artists came close to redefining the character, but even that wasn't some Platonic ideal of Batman. I thought the original Dark Knight Returns did a good job (it was clearly inspired by Adams' artwork), but the second one, while fun, was a pisstake on the character. I am probably one of the few who thinks Killing Joke is overrated, but I really like Moore's Clayface story in the DC Universe collection.
Joker doesn't get killed... just my guess by Jim Jam Bongs	May 4th, 2008 09:52:50 AM
The Nolan brothers have subtly said that a mistake of the first Batman movie was that they killed off the Joker too quickly. My guess is that it is the Batman who stops Harvey Dent/Two-Face from killing Joker. In the aftermath of the climatic battle between Batman and Joker, the good guy (Harvey) sets out to kill the bad guy (Joker) but then turns fully evil (into Two-Face) when Batman stops him. Yin and Yang. Two sides of a coin.
Agent Johnson by moviemaniac-7	May 4th, 2008 09:55:19 AM
I think there are so many stories you can tell in the Batman universe and re-threading them seems inevitable. But for my money, I am betting on Nolan et al. to come up with something more enduring than the Burton Batman. First of all, these movies (the first at least) are about Batman as the main character and not as a sidekick to the villains. (Although I must add that Michelle Pfeiffer as Catwoman is the price worth of the Batman Returns). I, for one, want to see this one as soon as possible.
Jim Jam Bongs by Underoos Hero	May 4th, 2008 09:56:55 AM
Totaly agree. I have carpel tunnel from typing similar words for the nerds. I'm not trying to change anyone's minds, but when they want to sit and try and justify the inner workings of a half ass product like BB, you got to sit back and shacke your head. This is why Nolan, Raimi and Bay get by with what they do. People still buy their shit.
Looks fucking brilliant!!! by Motoko Kusanagi	May 4th, 2008 09:58:39 AM
Can't wait!
Saw it in front of Iron Man yesterday by kafka07	May 4th, 2008 09:58:44 AM
I was surprised to see it then. TDK's cinematography looks really good, especially on the big screen. Oh yeah and Iron Man was great!
They should have filmed it on the moon... by Leopold Scotch	May 4th, 2008 09:59:03 AM
Then it wouldn't look like any cities. That was the worst part of Lord of the Rings by far. It was like "who cares about the fantastic action, the great story, the character development, the amazing special effects, the amount of detail and beauty in the environments and the high standards at every level of production?. I mean, it's obviously filmed in New Zealand: I've even walked past that tree in real life. Why couldn't they have just gone to Middle Earth and filmed it there? Or at least used a less prominent tree in NZ? Then it would have been much more convincing."
Underoos Hero, if you aren't trying to change anyone's mind by vintagecrow	May 4th, 2008 09:59:40 AM
then why do you have carpel tunnel from trying so hard?
DANIEL DAY LEWIS FOR JOKER IN BATMAN 3!!! by LaserPants	May 4th, 2008 09:59:44 AM
I DRINK YOUR BATSHAKE!!! I DRINK IT UP!!!
vintagecrow by Underoos Hero	May 4th, 2008 10:03:39 AM
Re-Read my post idiot.
FANTASTIC. by Mr. Nice Gaius	May 4th, 2008 10:03:44 AM
This looks gorgeous and the "feel" of it seems quietly confident. (MORIARTY - the march/theme is incredible. It's definitely a piece of music that creeps up on you and pulls you in. Glad to see more love for it here.) Friday night, I saw IRON MAN and the other TDK trailer played beforehand. Judging by the audience's response, the anticipation for this film is primed to explode. Bring it on.
Heath is great everything else is OVERRATED by Proman1984	May 4th, 2008 10:04:32 AM
I really hope this is better than the sucky Batman Begins and it does look like it's going to be. Still Indy will pwn this (sorry I had to put this in as payback ;) ).
"NolanVerse" not realistic by slugbat	May 4th, 2008 10:05:59 AM
Shouldn't downtown Gotham be overrun by every goddamn foreign culture, with signs in Chinese and Spanish and Portugese littering the streets, and no one fucking speaking a lick of English within a 25 mile radius? C'mon, Nolan, lets update Gotham to the modern American city it aspires to be.
from Underoos Hero's mum: by ultimateedition	May 4th, 2008 10:06:06 AM
it reads: oh dont mind him, he is just bitter, lonely and loony, hell, even i am worry about his obssesion with young asian boys...
What the fuck is that mutt face Maggie Gyllenhaal doing in this? by jimmy_009	May 4th, 2008 10:06:31 AM
If you can't get the same actress to play Rachael Dawes, write her out of the fucking script. Ugh, I can't stand Maggie Gyllenhaal, she ruined an otherwise FANTASTIC trailer for me. She's way out of place in this.
The main problem with Nolan's version is... by Merriman Lyon	May 4th, 2008 10:06:43 AM
...that it's so middle-of-the-road. Nolan seems happy not to impose any particular vision on the franchise with the result that it's boring. Every decision seens to be designed for maximum boredom. Boring story, boring city, boring gadgets, boring music, boring actors from whom particularly boring performances are elicited. I don't like Burton's vision - but at least he had one. A Thirties setting is just what's needed for this franchise. A low-budget, intriguing detective story please, with Batman creeping around the shadows of Gotham's seedy and imaginative underworld, thank you very much.
Fuck yes. by Laserhead	May 4th, 2008 10:10:20 AM
I really don't know what the complainers are on about, and I wonder if they actually know anything about Batman at all. Yes, the rubber suit is a stupid conceit from the awful Burton movies which has never been properly ditched. In spirit, scope, story and visualization, this is Batman, the Batman most of us remember from the late-seventies, eighties and nineties. And everyone is taking their parts seriously. Looks great. Crowd at Iron Man applauded the trailer, with not a peep for Indy-- and their silence wasn't respectful awe, it was indifference.
The second best thing about this... by Mr. Nice Gaius	May 4th, 2008 10:10:37 AM
...is watching I am Batman (the Eeyore of AICN) get his Batman pajamas all in a wad over Nolan & Co.'s vision. And you just gotta love how he flails away at everyone else's perceived "Ledger love". I am Batman = Bitter loser.
Xenophobic rant aside by slugbat	May 4th, 2008 10:11:05 AM
The first half of Batman Begins was amazing -- loved the ninja backstory -- but it jumped the shark with the shitty new Batmobile. Batman's bat-rides should have been jettisoned if the goal was "realism." Nothing stealthy or vigilante about a fucking giant Bat-Tank. The firing mechanism of the thing was especially gaytarded. Now it looks like he's adding the plane and the bike. Meh. TimBurtonesque shite.
Underoos by vintagecrow	May 4th, 2008 10:12:56 AM
re-read it...seems like you are getting carpel tunnel from trying to convince others. Maybe you should quit for your health....
"Looks nothing like Gotham" by Frat Boy	May 4th, 2008 10:13:10 AM
Have you fucking been there? Whose version of Gotham are you talking about? The bitching and whining is at an all time high.
They are running out of "realistic" villains by Jim Jam Bongs	May 4th, 2008 10:13:20 AM
I think they may be running out of villains who would fit most appropriately in Nolan's "realistic" take on Batman. Consider: The Riddler -- maybe he could be a guy who's a computer expert who attacks the city's infrastructure. But would this be interesting enough as a major villain? The Penguin -- a shady businessman, who is referred to by his real name only. I liked how in The Batman cartoon, they established a backstory where the Cobblepot and Wayne families were rivals. They could have Oswald lead a hostile takeover of Wayne Industries. However, Oswald would work better as a secondary villain; somebody who is attacking Bruce in the board room but isn't directly involved in the street combat stuff. Harley Quinn -- no explanation needed. She could work pretty much as is. But she's a side-kick, follower of Joker. Catwoman -- Selina Kyle wouldn't need to be changed much, but I wonder if they'd drop the whip from her arsenal. Plus, she's not entirely bad. The Ventriloquist -- not a major enough villain to carry a movie, but he could work in a small role. So is there any major villain left who could fit in the Nolan-Batman world? Clayface, Bane, Manbat, Poison Ivy, Killer Croc, Mr. Freeze... none of these characters would fit.
Zzzzzzzzz by brobdingnag	May 4th, 2008 10:13:26 AM
Could not be less excited by a trailer.
Batman dead end was shit by lex romero	May 4th, 2008 10:13:38 AM
it was a cheap and rubbish fan film, can people stop referencing it as if it's the only film to "get" batman. The suit being more true to teh comics just looked shit, it just looked like some guy wearing a grey jumper, i don't care if it's closer to teh comics, the look does not work in real life. Get over it.
Merriman Lyon... by wookie1972	May 4th, 2008 10:13:58 AM
The version of Batman you're talking about NEVER EXISTED. The closest DC ever got was the O'Neill/Adams version, and that took place in a modern, normal city. Nolan doesn't care about vision, he cares about making a good movie.
anyone else NOT excited about this movie? by Ironhelix	May 4th, 2008 10:15:12 AM
...just wondering. i think Batman is, and always was, completely boring. maybe it's because i hate spoiled rich kids that go slumming so they don't feel so bad about having everything they could possibly want. oh, and lets not forget that the guy isn't even a fucking superhero anyway. give me 2 billion dollars in high tech gadgets, and i'll do some amazing shit too. boring.
slugbat (Potential Spoiler) by Mr. Nice Gaius	May 4th, 2008 10:15:34 AM
You do realize that the Tumbler serves as the chassis for a possible new Batmobile, right? You know, more like the one everyone probably has in their heads? Bruce Wayne has to start off somewhere...he's just not going to fabricate a Batmoble right off the bat. (HA - Pun intended!!!)
thursday and friday's reaction by ultimateedition	May 4th, 2008 10:17:02 AM
regarding iron man and the trailers that played before it were interesting, almost all shows were sold out at the theatre i work for and Dark Knight definitely was the favorite, people started cheering when the joker showed up. there was hardly any excitement for the incredible hulk, and yes, there was no reaction regarding the trailer for indiana jones,except for some guy who yell out , "you suck" when shia showed up
Nolan's by wookie1972	May 4th, 2008 10:17:10 AM

Nolan's by wookie1972	May 4th, 2008 10:17:13 AM

This trailer hints at "Best Movie Ever" by WhoDis	May 4th, 2008 10:21:09 AM
everything looks f*cking amazing, from the small things like The Joker cleaning up his hair a bit before approaching Rachel Dawes to Batman hang gliding through the city. It doesn't get any better than this my friends.
Nolan's Batman reminds me of Fincher's Zodiac by wookie1972	May 4th, 2008 10:21:54 AM
When Zodiac came out, there was some grumbling that it wasn't as stylized as Seven or Fight Club, but it seemed like Fincher was doing what he thought best fit the material. I think Nolan is doing the same. Jim Jam Bongs - no, the more fantastic villains might not work in Nolan's version, but so what? In the 70s, they downplayed the fantastic villains, but introduced some good, more realistic villains like Rupert Thorne and Ra's Al Ghul (yeah, I know he's immortal, but so what?) OTOH, part of me has a perverse desire to see Bat-Mite...
agent johnson by lex romero	May 4th, 2008 10:23:48 AM
"Realistic" is subjective though. Each film/comic/book has its own internal logic. Just becasuse superheroes and flying monkeys are imaginary and 'ridiculous' ideas doesn't mean if flying monkeys turned up in the dark knight we'd be ok with it and think "well they're both unrealistic so why not". In the same sense some of batman's villians are more realistic than others in the universe nolan has created for this incarnation of batman.
Pause for Two-Face by a rolling stone	May 4th, 2008 10:24:38 AM
I keep pausing the car scene and admiring the scars you barely see on Harvey's face. I think he's wearing a two-toned jacket, too? Am I crazy, or is his left shoulder plaid? God, the wait is killing me.
action sequences by sokitome	May 4th, 2008 10:27:05 AM
The ONLY problem I had with Batman Begins was how the action scenes were shot really tight and quick edits. It was so bad it made me turn away from the film cause my eyes hurt. I wasn't the only one all my friends thought so also BUT this looks like he learned from the first and the action doesn't look so tightly shot. I'm hoping so cause it looks good
by wookie1972	May 4th, 2008 10:27:15 AM

The music Molossus(the action theme) makes anything sound epic by messi	May 4th, 2008 10:27:17 AM
example: http://tinyurl.com/39tokn
Hooded Justice fucking fanboy by messi	May 4th, 2008 10:30:14 AM
who the fuck would take something cheesy and comic booky like Batman Dead End over this. That was a joke.
Batman as a concept is not unrealistic by messi	May 4th, 2008 10:31:50 AM
you only think that because in our minds we know Batman is a superhero, but put yourself in a world where there is no comics and there is a psychologically disturbed vigilante who is incredibly well trained, and he dresses as a bat and comes out of the shadows, you don't know whether he's a man or myth but criminals shit their pants, i don't see how that isn't possible. Superman is unrealistic, because people can't fly.
Hmm by matix221	May 4th, 2008 10:32:32 AM
The voice of Andy Dick.
Black Mask would work by messi	May 4th, 2008 10:32:38 AM
and probably would show up in part 3.
I actually like Nolan's realistic take on things by Jim Jam Bongs	May 4th, 2008 10:33:08 AM
I see it as an interesting creative challenge for this version of the movie series. Evolving from what they have established in the first two movies, if they threw in, say, Manbat in the third movie, it just would not be "believable". RAG, Scarecrow, Joker and Two-Face certainly fit in well. But I can't imagine most of the other popular villains from the Batman mythos appearing in this series. I don't think Nolan intends to have any outrightly fantastic, supernatural, far-out science based (like Manbat or Freeze) appearing, anyway. I think he plans to stick with a "'70s streets of crime" gritty vibe.
Looking forward to this, but the bar is very high by br1947	May 4th, 2008 10:34:07 AM
Iron Man just kicked the bar WAY WAY WAY up, I freaking loved Batman Begins, but shit, Marvel just upped the stakes big time. I really didn't expect IM to deliver like it did or live up to the hype. If the Dark Knight can deliver what its promising (which the trailers are badass), this is going to be one of the greatest summer movie seasons ever!
List of other realistic Batman villains that Nolan could use... by wookie1972	May 4th, 2008 10:34:30 AM
Hugo Strange (might need a name change if Marvel want's to be bitchy) Catwoman Clayface (originally just a serial killer, could be a master of disguise) Penguin (could be very easily done) Riddler Mad Hatter (okay, he's on the borderline) Deadshot Lady Shiva Killer Croc (again, borderline) Ventriloquist (get Anthony Hopkins... heheh) Mr. Zsasz Harley Quinn Hush Batman has the best rogue's gallery of any hero. I don't think Nolan will have any problems.
Merriman Lyon dumb fuck by messi	May 4th, 2008 10:37:09 AM
the posh alfred is fucking boring, alfred should be family and DC comics should retcon it so he is more like Michael Caine and not this servant Bruce has in the comics.
Doesn't it just suck ... by The Wolf at the Door	May 4th, 2008 10:37:43 AM
... when you watch a two-and-a-half hour movie that has all sorts of great things going for it, but then there's this ONE fucking scene that just ruins the whole film? It seems to happen a lot to the talkbackers here. The whole film is just pissed down the drain by that ONE FUCKING SCENE that you just can't get out of your head.
enough about Batman: Dead End! by GLENN_THE_TOOL	May 4th, 2008 10:37:59 AM
for those of you who want the Batsuit to look like it did in Dead End, you really are fucking stupid. the grey and black tights might work in the comics, but people need ARMOR and KEVLAR in real life if they're going out night after night to bust criminals' heads. and i know the Dead End costume is closer to the comics than any of the other live-action movies, but they can get away with a guy running around in tights and fighting crime in a comic book. comic books are works of fantasy and exaggerated reality, but films bring more reality to the story because it's real people portraying the characters. if an actual person decided to fight crime in grey tights, he'd get laughed at before promptly getting pumped with 100 bullets.
Speachless by Turd Furgeson	May 4th, 2008 10:38:03 AM
Yes Mori, the 1:56 spoiler is there and yes again at 2:02, you for sure see the edge of what you think you see.. There are so many cool shots is this trailer. Wow. This is going to set things up for a kick ass 3rd installment.
HOLY S**T HEATH IS PLAYING TONY CLIFTON?? by Redfive!	May 4th, 2008 10:38:15 AM
Why is it that The Joker sounds just like Tony Clifton.
Im on the same page as you Hooded Justice by brobdingnag	May 4th, 2008 10:39:41 AM
Dead End is the best Batman ever put to film by FAR. The problem is you are dealing with 20 somethings here. For them reality and entertainment are so blurred they don't have the ability to distinguish between them. That's why they must have hyper-realism in their entertainment because all they know is "reality" TV. They don't need fantasy because their reality is fantasy. Batman isn't a mythical character, hes a real guy who they followed with a camrea crew to capture all this footage. Get it? They think they are watching an episode of cops.
Gordon by Maceox	May 4th, 2008 10:42:17 AM
Why is Gordon so pissed off 2:02. And why is he taking an axe to the bat signal at 1:51?
Potential "Real-World" Villain by Jim Halpert	May 4th, 2008 10:42:51 AM
Bane would be the likeliest "real-world" villain to work into the Nolan films, with his origins in prison and being the subject of experimental testing. Nolan sets up the next film's villain in each movie, though, so I'm not sure how a sequel featuring Two Face will be able to set up a Bane scenario. I'm guessing after the third film, Nolan is done with Batman.
The 3rd one should.. by Redfive!	May 4th, 2008 10:43:34 AM
Defantly be heavly influenced by THE DARK KNIGHT RETURNS.They should do it like Begins where half the film is a flashback with Two Face then the other half where he's old and worn out and 60 years old or so.This way he can also reflect on all the villians he;s faced and maybe throw in the penguin and riddler as flashbacks.
Looks much better than Batman Begins by Quake II	May 4th, 2008 10:44:42 AM
I'm not a Batman Begins "hater" but I found it far from perfect. Great opening and some fantastic elements but the last 1/2 of the film fell completely apart. Poorly edited, rushed and crowded. This movie looks like it has its shit together. Ledger looks fantastic as the Joker. I expect it be the 4th highest grossing film this summer behind Indy, Wal-E and Iron Man...Sorry folks, it's too dark to be number 1. Look at the summer track record. Dark, gothic films never rule the summer. Kids will not be able to see Batman 8 times and that's what makes box office $$$.
zom-bot.com by messi	May 4th, 2008 10:45:25 AM
Force of will, and the fact he's the nexus of the DCM.
Bat-Tank cont'd by slugbat	May 4th, 2008 10:45:41 AM
Chassis Origins(tm) or not, the whole point is that the Bat-Panzer (or any of the other more fantastic cartoony elements) doesn't fit within the world of the wonderful first half of the movie. Also, "Realism" is fairly OBJECTIVE. Therefore, for the sake of good cinema, taking some liberalities with it works and some things don't. Bat-Panzer jumping motherfucking rooftops like a gazelle sent the movie into a cornball, "comic book cliche" (re: Agent Johnson) tailspin from which it never recovered. I would have liked the story to stick to darker, more restrained themes.
brobdingnag by messi	May 4th, 2008 10:47:10 AM
No. it's just Batman in a grey suit with underpants on the outside looks fucking retarded, and to have the grant morrison style Batman who knows every fucking thing there is, is retarded aswell. i prefer my mentally driven crime drama batman. pansy fanboy.
Mr.Zsasz was in Begins by messi	May 4th, 2008 10:48:09 AM
didn't you notice him wookie?
Poison Ivy is one of my favorites... by Jim Jam Bongs	May 4th, 2008 10:48:46 AM
I like her more than Catwoman. But I agree that a realistic version of her wouldn't be a strong enough villain to carry a movie. And I agree she would work as a background character, who pulls eco-terrorist acts on Wayne Industries. Her appearance would probably be nothing more than a cameo. Without her ability to summon and command plants to do her will, she's just a domestic terrorist. It looks like the best candidate for a major villain would be a "realistical" Riddler.
sin city batman no thanks!!! by hesky75	May 4th, 2008 10:49:55 AM
im gonna get slated for this but i never really thought sin city was that good, and it always felt like people liked it because it was cool to like it!! don't get me wrong there was some cool stuff but just never blew me away..... so as for a batman in that style thanks but no thanks...! I like Nolans take on this world, I like the original training montage in batman begins so very similar in some ways to the original highlander sequence with mcleod and ramirez, liam neeson giving out more personality than was ever seen in the phantom menace, I like the way the first film was not that over the top and the way the dark knight sets a world that is even more darker than the original. to all the people who moan about the technology being to real !!where the fuck did you think he was going to get a batmobile, a bike and all the rest of the bat kit ..... pop into the local DIY shop and build it himself, this new version is great and the best on film so far. everyone has there own version in there mind and maybe a period (40's 50's) batman may emerge but I think that would be so limited on what gadgets old bruce wayne could really have before people would start saying how could that piece of technology exist back then ..... but then you cant please everyone! I like the original burton films, was never that fussed on jack nicholsen and the painting the museum shit !! wtf ooo real scary ! but the idea of the joker burning harvey dents face with acid as he screams and can do sweet f.a about it while im guessing watching rachel dawes get chucked of a building is dark as fuck!!! compared to the burton joker. Ledger looks ( with respects ) a right evil fucker and I love the bit in the trailer where he says "c'mon hit me" at least he wants to give it a go with bats where as the previous one was a bit of a pussy!
prolly the 40000000th by futurecop	May 4th, 2008 10:50:25 AM
I'm pretty sure some people on here just feel like being morons and should find better things to do than blatently ripping on what probably will be the best movie of the year....who cares what the running time is??? It's Batman...this thing could be 5 hours and I'd love it...people go to see movies to escape from the trials and troubles of their day...making a movie like this longer only lets people escape that much longer. Some people had a problem with Iron Man because it dealt too much with the characters and what went into making his suit...but story is the best part of the movie. In B.B. we had to see the reboot of what made Bruce go a little "batty" and turn into this character...now we have Joker annnd Two-Face...of course it should be longer, combining too many villians into a short movie gets us back to Batman and Robin territory and none of us want this new franchise to go there again. Also, people say mean comments about this movie, then actually wait to see who says something back in order to type a "F-you" ten minutes later....if you are calling someone a nerd or a geek or something like that, you people should look in the mirror cuz ur the one wasting away ur day on a confidently nerdy website The only problem I had with this trailer was the fact that Maggie G looks like a grandma in some shots...sorry but it's true...she might be a great actress but she does not take on the qualities of a hot female role at all...but if the rumors are true and she dies I guess that problem will be solved...it would explain the pieces of Batsuit and Bruce looking pissed off sitting on the chair like he just failed miserably at something. I hope he slaughters Scarecrow in this movie too...the first one he showed too much compassion, especially at the end during the "I'm not going to kill you, but i dont have to save you" moment...i hope he gets a little more mad this time and owns like Iron Man did with all those Terrorists. Also one person commented on the ending of the trailer and the car scene...i thought that was friggin hillarious... Finally, people were saying Alfred's portrayal is wrong...well i think its wayyyyy better than the butler we got in the first few Batman's..bringing cold soup and bandages...i like this wisecrackin' awesome butler...the line in the first movie "You can borrow the roll's if ya like..." was awesome. Lastly...this is a superhero movie...these people can't put stuff in every single person would like because everyone had different feelings about their characters...I just want something entertaining and fresh in my movies...just by watching these trailers I can tell it will be both. On the rottentomatoes site people were giving Iron Man 0 stars and not leaving comments, just to try and bring the average rating down....the same type of thing happens when people on this site post a comment like "F-this..this movie's gonna blow"....please try to be more mature in the future people, and like one reviewer said...even the people that are slamming this movie know they are eventually gonna see it anyway...
lets hope they will get a different director for the sequels by johnnyg korrupt	May 4th, 2008 10:50:30 AM
Or were gonna see crap realistic versions of Penguin and Riddler. Fincher would be good. Imagine if Andrew Kevin Walker did the script
Too much telegraphing of Two-Face by BizarroJerry	May 4th, 2008 10:51:15 AM
I realize this is a problem with most movie trailers these days, but I wish they just showed us Dent's character and didn't show us the face-in-gasoline image or the actually near-view of his face. C'mon guys. Can't we have ONE thing be a suprise? Oh, and if you feel that Maggie isn't attractive, just pretend Joker calling her beautiful is a sign he's crazy. By the way, isn't this the second boss Rachel's been dating. Wouldn't the Gotham elite consider her a whore?
by djtelesca	May 4th, 2008 10:52:09 AM
In the initial "leap from the building" scene, what was on Bats' back?
Spidey has the best Rogues Gallery by messi	May 4th, 2008 10:53:04 AM
Bats has the most famous, because of The joker, two face, penguin, riddler, catwoman. (my fave is ra's al ghul) but Spidey has the most classic and dynamic rogues gallery, every one of them could be in a movie. Green Goblin, Doctor fucking Octopus, the motherfucking Shocker, Scorpion, Electro, Sandman, The Vulture, Venom, The Lizard, MYSTERIO!, Kraven, Rhino, Carnage, Chameleon. you get my point.
Two-Face by slugbat	May 4th, 2008 10:53:59 AM
I'm terrified to see the burned side. Could it be as bad as Batman Forever? That could have been the worst cinematic realization of any comic character EVER.
Merriman Lyon = Nerd version of Bill O'Reilly by Colonel Activity	May 4th, 2008 10:54:01 AM
Boring city, boring story, boring actors, boring gadgets, etc. Do you realize that if you think that everything is boring and you're the only one who thinks so, then it is probably you who is boring? Like when O'Reilly calls all these newspapers, politicians, movies, etc "fa-left" of "ultra-liberal"...well, if everything is so "far-left" maybe he's just so right-wing that everything normal seems that way. Talking about how boring this movie is while waxing poetic about the 30s is funny. Pathetic, yet funny.
johnnyg korrupt by messi	May 4th, 2008 10:58:33 AM
If Andrew Kevin Walker did the script it might suck as much as the script he did for batman vs superman.
Agent Johnson... by GLENN_THE_TOOL	May 4th, 2008 10:58:38 AM
so a kid who is traumatized by his parents' death would be too depressed and crazy to grow up to become a strong, intelligent man with strong morals and resolve? your rationale is so flawed that it's downright dumb. everyone reacts to tragedy in very different, very varied ways. so to call Bruce Wayne's evolution from grief-stricken youth to determined man wanting to help and protect others "unrealistic" is ridiculous.
i'm just gonna say it: Ledger hasnt impressed me yet by BMacSmith	May 4th, 2008 11:00:22 AM
His Joker seems to serious. maybe its just the trailer. still hoping its good. Are you talking about Dent becoming Two-face as a spoiler? is this really a shock to anyone? or did i miss something.
The training sequence from begins is one of my fave scenes ever by messi	May 4th, 2008 11:01:14 AM
the music, the editing, the music again, the way it builds, the photography. it was there that i said This is Batman, because it felt like something important and legendary was happening. To this day I can watch that scene again and again and probably watch it at least once a week. Beautiful scene. Like a well written song that has the right amount of notes and bars and sustain on a note.
gang-bang of villains for the third movie by Jim Jam Bongs	May 4th, 2008 11:01:38 AM
Okay, how about this: Two-Face teams up with The Riddler. (Yes, just like they did in Batman Forever.) At the same time, Bruce has to deal with Oswald Cobblepot who's initiating a hostile takeover of Wayne Industries. Pam Eisley makes a cameo as an eco-terrorist hired by Oswald to attack a Wayne Industries facility or something. Throw in a cameo also by Dr. Harlan Quenzel, when Bats visits Joker at Arkham. Hell, also throw in a Barbara Gordon cameo, who's a pre-teen.
nah. Batman has better villians than Spidey by BMacSmith	May 4th, 2008 11:02:34 AM
Most of Spidey's main villians are mad scientists. thats boring. Batman's villians are fucking psychotic freaks.
Agent Johnson by messi	May 4th, 2008 11:03:49 AM
you must be fucking stupid to think humans can be so easily generalized. Alot of people react differently to things. Alot of people are enraged by Justice which brings me to the point that alot of kids have seen their parents shot in front of them. But that kid who was born with a good heart and doesn't like injustice when he sees it, is most likely to throw a fist to bring down someone who does something wrong when he's older.
Mockney, Ledger hate by Araqnidm	May 4th, 2008 11:04:47 AM
I can't believe there's people hating on this movie. Well, I guess it isn't really that hard to imagine, but good grief, what can you really complain about here? Noland and Co. cover all the bases. It's a strong story that's faithful to the atmosphere and the characterization of the very best comics in Batman's mythos while at the same time making sense in a real world setting. Batman is one of the few superheroes that needs that realistic back drop. Plain and simple, it just looks like a really strong movie with incredible actors and lots of exciting action. Ledger backlash? If you can't enjoy what he's done here you're going out of your way to ignore something wonderful. What have you got to prove? That heart throb actors shouldn't play a comic character? Don't be a spiteful jerk. This performance looks unbelievable, and I say that as a HUGE fan of the Joker. He totally nailed it. MOCKNEY? Cute term, but I don't see it. I'm no accent aficionado, but it just doesn't add up to me. 90% of the cast and crew is British, why would they need to fake a British accent? I don't know, maybe I'm just some naive fanboy that loved Begins and thinks Nolan can do no wrong. Also IMDB already has Cillian Murphy billed as Crane/Scarecrow. Don't know if this is 100% trustworthy, but I'm psyched. I love that Nolan has brought Gotham to the forefront in his movies and you can watch the steady devolution from a gleaming city of opportunity to a cauldron of organized crime to a veritable zoo of masked criminals.
Messi, that training sequence in Begins.... by JTStyler	May 4th, 2008 11:05:03 AM
is the last time tears came from my eyes in a cinema. All my hairs on the back of my neck stood up. THAT SCENE IS THE ESSENCE OF FUCKING BATMAN. I trust Nolan.
re: The Riddler by Colonel Activity	May 4th, 2008 11:05:13 AM
He's the villain in the next movie along with Two-Face. Read it in the LA Times
BMacSmith fucking idiot by messi	May 4th, 2008 11:05:13 AM
out of the ones I listed, 3 of them are mad scientists. all of them have had better stories and endure more in comicdom because they have been better written.
I think the fact that Batman is so dark will... by rbatty024	May 4th, 2008 11:06:07 AM
hurt it at the box office. This whole Indy v. Batman box office is a bit contrived, but I think Indy will be the winner this year because it's much more lighthearted. Personally, I love Batman as a character and I think TDK will be a huge success, but most people want lighter fare for their summer movies. As far as excitement, I have to say I'm equally excited over both and I think both will deliver in their own ways. There's room enough this Summer for a well crafted movie adventure and a psychologically driven superhero film.
Another fave scene of mine in Begins by messi	May 4th, 2008 11:11:46 AM
that I think is one of the most perfect scenes ever because of what it managed to do, is when Ducard/Ra's first meets Bruce in the jail cell. First the music. That Ra's Al Ghul middle eastern tinged theme is one fo the most powerful and epic pieces of music i've ever heard, so fitting, it doesn't have that music vibe like other movies of 'ah ha ha I am the bad guy, this is villainous music' it had more like I am unstoppable and what i'm doing is beyond what you could comprehend and i may just be right. And the way the music builds up and Ra's says "Legend. Mr Wayne", that bit just shocked the shit out of me, the music was so perfect to when he says "legend" and to say Legend, it really felt like something epic and important was happening. Beautiful scene. Godlike movie.
The thing with Indy is... by ZoeFan	May 4th, 2008 11:12:43 AM
I'm not sure the 12-18 year old crowd cares about Indy. It's past their time. And quite frankly the kids sitting around me during the trailer (at Iron Man) were making fun of it. Yet they were completely marking out to the Batman trailer.
rbatty024 by messi	May 4th, 2008 11:13:18 AM
lighter fare? can i bring you to Summer 2005 which had Revenge of the Sith, War of the World and Batman Begins. The darkest summer ever and they made shitloads.
Agent by GLENN_THE_TOOL	May 4th, 2008 11:13:37 AM
that aspect of Batman is unrealistic, and even though Bruce is extremely intelligent, determined, and has strong moral values, the fact that he runs around dressed like a bat is indicative that Bruce might not be 100% sane himself. books like The Killing Joke made light of that, that Batman might not be too different from the psychos he chases. he might not be as far off the deep end as them, but a guy who runs around fighting crime dressed as a bat surely can't be all there in the head.
realism by futurecop	May 4th, 2008 11:13:54 AM
This is a comic book movie...lol...in real life we don't have superheroes to begin with...i love the darkness to these...frankly, the sequel to Fantastic 4 annoyed me since it was toooo much "Yey this is family fun!!!".... I agree with the guy who said Maggie's hottness just showed how crazy Joker is... I also agree with the "nah. Batman has better..." comment...Batman's baddies are certified psychos, which..in my opinion..is wayyyy more interesting.
Agent Johnson you fucking idiot by messi	May 4th, 2008 11:15:28 AM
you think it's because he's a superhero, you're not intelligent enough to get why batman could be real. there is nothing stopping an obsessive vigilante from existing. you're thinking from this world, but in that world there is no batman, they don't know he's a superhero, just someone who can fight(one of the best fighters on the planet) and can beat the shit out of criminals. Are you 12 years old? because you're a fucking idiot.
Messi you dumb fucking cocksmoker by BMacSmith	May 4th, 2008 11:16:32 AM
since you enjoy insulting those who disagree. i said 'main'. As in top 3 or 4. Like Green Goblin, Octopus, and Lizard. Who wants to see a fucking movie with dumbass characters like Electro and Rhino? thats just stupid. I suppose Kraven or Mysterio would work. But another reason the Batman villians are better because they are kind of a dark mirror image of him. He's fucked up in the head, too, he just went another way. Spidey's villians are pretty cool on the surface but they aren't very interesting deep down. And they aren't related to him in any way. They are just random villians for him to fight.
Spider-Man's rogue's gallery is okay, but Bats is better... by wookie1972	May 4th, 2008 11:17:10 AM
It's quality, not quantity. Shocker, Scorpion, Rhino, Kraven, etc. are pretty lame, IMHO of course. And judging by the third movie, Raimi would fuck them up anyway. I would actually love to see a Flash movie with Gorilla Grodd. Yes, he's an insane villain, but done with the right Rick Baker makeup i could be brilliant... Daniel Day Lewis as Grodd?
dent is 2 facey in the car i see by LarryTheCableGuy	May 4th, 2008 11:18:17 AM
i don't expect joker to blow me away, but i suspect thousands will lie to themselves that he's phenomonal. and maggie gylenhaal is fugly. still looks awesome.
Richard Jenny saved you, Agent Johnson? by GLENN_THE_TOOL	May 4th, 2008 11:18:37 AM
now who's gonna get that reference?
didnt realize Zsaz was in BB by wookie1972	May 4th, 2008 11:19:07 AM
thanks for the heads up.
brobdingnag by wookie1972	May 4th, 2008 11:23:25 AM
For the record, I'm 35, and I thought Dead End was kind of silly. The people who say "it was good until the Aliens showed up" miss the point, it was SUPPOSED to be Batman meets Alien. It was totally one-joke movie, and a weak joke at that. There has never been a "classic" Batman costume. It has always varied from artist to artist. Kane's original had purple gloves, for pete's sake.
brobdingnag by wookie1972	May 4th, 2008 11:23:29 AM
For the record, I'm 35, and I thought Dead End was kind of silly. The people who say "it was good until the Aliens showed up" miss the point, it was SUPPOSED to be Batman meets Alien. It was totally one-joke movie, and a weak joke at that. There has never been a "classic" Batman costume. It has always varied from artist to artist. Kane's original had purple gloves, for pete's sake.
SO all of the Jokers money??? by mattforce7	May 4th, 2008 11:24:28 AM
DId anyone else catch all that HOT money???
Looks pretty good by picardsucks	May 4th, 2008 11:25:16 AM
But Heath's still no Jack and Bale mysteriously lost all his muscles hmmmmmmmmm "mitchellreportcoughcough" but looks to be a very soild entry very excited!!!!
I'm going to agree that Bats has the best rogues gallery. by rbatty024	May 4th, 2008 11:27:42 AM
Especially after the animated series. They manged to craft such conflicted villains that they became as interesting as Batman. They even adopted Mr. Freeze's origin from the TV show into the comic books because it was that good. I also think the best Batman movie is Batman: Mask of the Phantasm. Messi, I'm not saying a dark movie will bomb or anything. I think TDK will be a complete success. Both Indy and TDK look great in my opinion. I'm just saying if I had to guess I think as far as box office goes Indy will probably beat out Batman because its tone appeals to a wider audience and probably makes for more repeat customers. Hopefully there's enough audience to go around because Hollywood is finally doing some things right this Summer and I want them to be encouraged.
The Batank turned all the freeway lights off. by Smashing	May 4th, 2008 11:27:44 AM
That's how he managed a few seconds of cover, its hardly rocket science to watch and figure out how it all works rather than how it doesn't. Maybe its more indicative of individual mindsets than of anything cinematic? TDK looks amazingly cool, some heavy moments and some sure to be cool as hell action, though I am tired of the flipping lorry already, unless Magneto is lurking around the corner. There is quite a lot of expectation towards this film so maybe that's why some of the negative comments are borderline crazy talk, it is after all still a motion picture, made by humans and open to interpretation. Maybe just trying to enjoy it more and not getting hung up on the fact that Gotham's not really real would aid enjoyment? I mean if you are a Batman fan and not looking forward to this film how does that feel?, weird I bet. Ledgers portrayal would seem indeed to be a mix of both main Joker players from the past, the crazy side of Romeroe's and the homicidal side of Nicholson's, it all seems very appealing. Check Caine's face as Ledger enters by him in the trailer, he is open mouthed, I know its acting but he does look freaked.
No such thing as a perfect... by Andillformthehead	May 4th, 2008 11:29:56 AM
Batman film as different aspects of the character (through the different interpretations) stand out and mean more to us than others. That being said BB was a good, memorable film and I feel TDK will be even better. Consider Superman Returns (or even the McG attached Superman script) as how bad things could REALLY be...
Batman isn't completely realistic, just more than other superher by GLENN_THE_TOOL	May 4th, 2008 11:31:24 AM
just because people accept that Superman is sci-fi, that doesn't make him more realistic than Batman. Superman is a beloved icon and everyone knows his story, they accept the fact that he's the last survivor of an alien planet without thinking about it. real world logic and reasoning can be applied to Superman's story, but up to a point because of the strong sci-fi elements. but with Batman's story where superpowers and aliens and science fiction are either aren't as strong or completely nonexistent, it lends itself to comparisons to reality a lot easier. that's why Batman, while possessing unrealistic elements, is more realistic than stories about flying superheroes from other planets or some kid who gains superpowers when bitten by a spider.
Ledger has become Joker...... by Thot	May 4th, 2008 11:32:17 AM
He'll probably end up owning the character even more than Nicholson. Love the new trailer! Looks like it'll be even more intense than Begins.
The interesting thing about these movies by Monkey Butler	May 4th, 2008 11:32:53 AM
That other superhero films haven't really tapped into, is the fact that Batman is actually just a vigilante. I'm not sure how much this is brought up in the comics, but I think it's interesting that all the bad guys (Ras in the first film, looks like Two-Face and Joker in this) are all just taking the law into their own hands to mold the world as they see fit. What exactly is it that separates Batman from Two-Face? They're both after "justice" What separates Ras and Batman? They're both out to clean up Gotham. It's a far cry from JJJ shouting about Spider-man for comedic effect, and I hope they build on the idea forther in TDK and the eventual third film.
by gomez33	May 4th, 2008 11:33:05 AM
Wow what a bunch of cunts on this site. Haven't even seen the film but Ledger is supposedly a shit Joker and the film is too realistic. Yeah lets go back to 1940's and have gay spandex. Fucking bunch of poofs. I fucking hate pricks basing their views of Batman on the fucking shitty TV Show. Read the fucking comics, Bat man has always been based in reality. Oh and Heath Ledger was a good actor, I bet pretty much none of the haters have seen him in Candy, He was fantastic in that. He also carried Brokeback Mountain. Fucking cocks on this site do my head in.
when does the joker actually start acting by LarryTheCableGuy	May 4th, 2008 11:33:45 AM
batshit crazy or jokery? he seems cool but i don't see any joker, i see a regualar guy with a bad makeup job. they must be hiding the real look of the joker really good or something, or whats the point of putting on makeup if its gonna look all shitty.
Shifting Focus by rbottoms	May 4th, 2008 11:35:49 AM
Whoa what a surprise! The movie's been re-edited to shift the focus more towards Two Face and away from the Joker (better know as recently deceased Heath Ledger)
NICHOLSON WILL RE-OWN THE JOKER IN 2012!!!?! by LARDASSESREVENGE	May 4th, 2008 11:37:08 AM

nicholson was a pussy !! by hesky75	May 4th, 2008 11:39:50 AM
got all his henchmen to fight bats, at least this new one is giving it ago
Joker Dies? by slugbat	May 4th, 2008 11:40:11 AM
You think Heath Ledger will make a cameo in the third Batman flick? No spoilers please.
joker dies but at whos hands!!? by hesky75	May 4th, 2008 11:45:35 AM
i think that two face will kill the joker leading onto the next film..... or the batman will capture the joker and daniel day lewis will portray him in the shadows in arkham in the next one !!! but i think it will be the first
that would be some real random shit !! by hesky75	May 4th, 2008 11:46:33 AM

Aaron Eckhart for Captain America by Laserhead	May 4th, 2008 11:46:55 AM
That's all.
villians by futurecop	May 4th, 2008 11:48:49 AM
Batman's villians arrreee mirror images of him...thats why its amazing...Bruce is a little crazy but controls it and channels it into Batman and fighting crime...thats why I hope Rachel dies so we can see just how far Bruce can go before he goes fully insane...the only difference between Scarecrow, Joker, Two-face, and Bruce is that Bruce lets himself be crazy in the suit and the others go crazy on everyone else all the time...its great..you never see that in Spiderman...Spidey's bad guys are power hungry and thats it..its like a wall, thats as deep as they go..."I want power so i will rob a bank"...while thats fun sometimes,i like the dark mystery to these Batman characters...i dont think people will assume this is too dark because people will like these movies for the same reason as Silence of the Lambs...the bad guys are soooo evil that people love what's in the mind more than what they dress or look like...Joker isnt scary for the scarring, he's scary cuz hes a friggin psychopath
agreed on cappy by slugbat	May 4th, 2008 11:48:51 AM
I want to see Cap on the big screen. They've already raped my Joes...
joker will not die by LarryTheCableGuy	May 4th, 2008 11:52:16 AM
in this one. he's the worlds most beloved villain. batman wouldnt be boring without him, but come on.
Iron Man Was REALLY Disappointing... by fassbinder79	May 4th, 2008 11:53:42 AM
...But I just got OWNED by this beautiful trailer for Dark Knight. Nolan is a beast! Another awesome car chase sequence like the one in BB will be worth the price of admission alone. This film can't come out any sooner. Oh my god am I pumped to see this! Thank you Christopher Nolan! Thank you! HL RIP
re:tombodet by Andillformthehead	May 4th, 2008 11:54:43 AM
Denny O' Neill wrote and Neil Adams drew them. I believe later on Adams wrote some as well. Forgive me if you were joking or what not...
Joker steals all of the mobs money then by batzilla	May 4th, 2008 11:56:36 AM
BURNS IT!! The first 6 minutes of TDK shows this.
Monkey Butler, some of the really, really early... by rbatty024	May 4th, 2008 11:59:03 AM
Batman comics had Batman running from the police because he was a vigilante. Early on they did away with this aspect of the character because parents complained.
Ledgers Joker is fucking by batzilla	May 4th, 2008 12:01:23 PM
AMAZING! I absolutely LOVE the way he moves his eyes. In the second trailer when you first see him look up and then in this trailer right after he says "kill the Batman". And to all the haters I say FUCK YOU! It must SUCK to be someone who is so miserable in their lives to let it take over everything they see. Just because you hate yourself and the life you have doesn't mean that the rest of us who are happy can't enjoy a great Batman movie. Go get your life together and then start enjoying life again.
Frame 2:03 by xXMr_BoJaNgLeSXx	May 4th, 2008 12:02:15 PM
With Aaron Eckhart riding in the car with the pistol... if he were scarred his left hand probably most definately would be mutilated too. It's in fine condition. As far as his face, it's probably just the lighting or shadowing... perhaps even intentional to provoke that iconic image in fans minds.
Isn't there a scene (spoiler alert!) by batzilla	May 4th, 2008 12:10:20 PM
where we get to see the Joker through someones eyes who has been gassed with Scarecrows toxic shit? I heard it is a really fucking awesome looking Joker. Like the Killing Joke Joker.
re: tombodet by Andillformthehead	May 4th, 2008 12:14:16 PM
yeah, I can't wait. And Iron Man was good as far as I am concerned and sets up at least 2 more movies. The ending could have been better but a good saturday matinee nonetheless.
Dent with face on the floor by Colonel Activity	May 4th, 2008 12:14:48 PM
In the trailer, his whole face is wet with whatever that is getting poured on the ground. That's just a red herring. He gets his faced splashed by Maroni, gets him in a limo, but let's him go because his coin comes up unmarked. Read it in an interview.
Also by Colonel Activity	May 4th, 2008 12:18:36 PM
if you look closely, the left side of his top lip is completely missing. How cute.
Two-face pic by Drwyrm2002	May 4th, 2008 12:22:34 PM
Not a great pic but the best I could do. http://tinyurl.com/5ff7hl
Looks good. Real good. by mrfan	May 4th, 2008 12:24:58 PM
Looking forward to this. Great summer of movies ahead. Seems to something for everyone in all areas. The cast looks fantastic. Glad to see Two Face incorporated in the movie. He is my favorite Batman villian. Can't wait.
Oh and rbottoms by Drwyrm2002	May 4th, 2008 12:27:04 PM
The movie was not re-edited. Nolan said he is going to put out the same movie he was before. It would be wrong to get rid of Heath.
I hate that nowadays Frank Miller is always credited... by rbatty024	May 4th, 2008 12:29:57 PM
with making a darker Batman when he's really in debt to O'Neil. Maybe it's because Miller is one of the few comic book writers people actually know.
This is SO wrong to say, but... by greenstyle92	May 4th, 2008 12:31:10 PM
When people see the film, they will be reassured Heath is dead. His performance is so creepy that it will be something like contemplating the dinosaurs... Something that was scary as fuck and nigh-unstoppable but thank god it's dead now, no longer out there to menace people.
For people who think this is a re-make of Burton's Batman: by Kirbymanly	May 4th, 2008 12:34:13 PM
The similarity of the trailers is amazing: http://www.collegehumor.com/vi deo:1813453
It's like Heath Ledger is gone by zooch	May 4th, 2008 12:36:05 PM
but The Joker remains. The Heath Ledger we knew before doesn't exist anymore. He became the Joker in some freak accident and now Heath is no more. At least that the way it feels when I see this. Creepy.
It's like Heath Ledger is gone by zooch	May 4th, 2008 12:36:15 PM
but The Joker remains. The Heath Ledger we knew before doesn't exist anymore. He became the Joker in some freak accident and now Heath is no more. At least that's the way it feels when I see this. Creepy.
It's like Heath Ledger is gone by zooch	May 4th, 2008 12:36:24 PM
but The Joker remains. The Heath Ledger we knew before doesn't exist anymore. He became the Joker in some freak accident and now Heath is no more. At least that's the way it feels when I see this. Creepy.
by redkamel	May 4th, 2008 12:39:25 PM
heath ledger did a fucking bang up job on the joker from what it looks like. Im so sad hes gone...but what a job he did...it almost makes it worse, looks like he was going to finally start proving his chops with this and BB Mtn. ok you can BARELY see 2 face, and the "spoiler" at 1:56? possible, but I mean, its a hero movie...how many other times has the damsel been in distress?
Another Spoiler 1:18 by Mostholy	May 4th, 2008 12:41:17 PM
As the Joker combs his hair, his goons rough up...Sen. Patrick Leahy of Vermont. He'd best be careful...Pres. Obama won't stand for that sorta thing.
light off on the freeway by redkamel	May 4th, 2008 12:44:27 PM
wait someone said the batank turned off all the freeway lights? please explain. that part of the movie always puzzled me since I never understood why/how all the lights went off, and why the cops couldnt see the car when they had headlights, and why the chopper with a spotlight lost him too.
Iron Man - $101 million opening weekend... by Pennsy	May 4th, 2008 12:44:31 PM
A nice chunk of change, yes?
Kirbymanly by MattmanReturns	May 4th, 2008 12:44:35 PM
That remake trailer was faked with editing. Watch the original Batman 89 trailer... it's nothing like that. This is old news, btw.
The deal with "Why so Similar.." by greenstyle92	May 4th, 2008 12:50:03 PM
Is that the comparison is meant to show how close the two movies might be in terms of structure and theme. Not a literal "They remade the trailer!" No one made trailers like that back in the day.
So what's Scarecrow's role going to be in all this? by greenstyle92	May 4th, 2008 12:51:54 PM
I know cillian murphey is coming back as scarecrow, but I haven't heard much about this, like they are keeping it an even deeper buried secret. Is it just going to be a cameo, where Batman finishes wrapping up old business from Begins before the new shit goes down?
IRON MAN Owns The Summer, But TDK Looks Great! by LaserPants	May 4th, 2008 12:52:12 PM
I wish it was coming out sooner, I don't feel like waiting until July.
One villain I'd like to see Nolan use is... by greenstyle92	May 4th, 2008 12:53:40 PM
Scarface/Ventriloquist. Now THAT dude has capacity to be really fucked up. I don't know who you'd get to play him, but it could leave Joker in the dust.
Merriman Lyon, you are out to lunch and shit is on the menu by g-ride9000	May 4th, 2008 12:53:50 PM
sometimes I read this shit, and burst out laughing. Look kiddo, I don't care about this movie, but your arguments are so petty. Why don't you go get laid.
This trailer is a disgrace to the memory of 9/11... by Johnno	May 4th, 2008 12:59:34 PM
So many buildings... Too many aerial shots Explosions??? Someone flying through the air between buildings!!! What more proof do you want??? What have we as a movie-going society become in sheer disrespect to such tragedy??? Why can we NOT be SO SERIOUS???
I have come to the conclusion... by Underoos Hero	May 4th, 2008 01:03:00 PM
That all Batman Begins supporters are absolute dillusional, cripal retards from the Planet CrypTard.
I TOLD YOU SO by ironic_name	May 4th, 2008 01:05:43 PM

All this controversy only proves... by Darwyn	May 4th, 2008 01:06:01 PM
That this is the pop-culture event of the summer. All of this hate is actually a good sign. This is a normal and natural phenomena of mass behavior. All of the negative reactions aren't miserable people or buzz-kills, they are the important counter-control to our ramped up excitement. People get so worked up about this, a whole other group of people get a twinge that, wait a minute, maybe we should check our expectations, not map out the movie we think we're getting in advance, and try to check this into a manageable perspective, so they start looking for all of the things to knit pick and they always find what they're looking for. Come July, these people will enjoy it as much as anyone else, but without realizing why they've done what they've done, they will say "huh, I have to eat crow - it was much better than I thought it would be." This movie will rule ass, but everyone should try to comartmentalize that, sit on it, and focus on work and school, m'kay?
Now watch.. by Underoos Hero	May 4th, 2008 01:06:19 PM
As all of you Cryptardian's begin to berate and bash my Underoos Handle for saying that you are all truly pathetic and take Batman waaaaaaaay to seriously. Some of you brain dead momma's boys will sit behind your ergonomic War of Warcraft keyboards and threaten my life but I fail to see the "logic" in a "superhero" movie that you guys actually think is a A&E biography on Bruce Wayne.
Underoos Hero by Lashlarue	May 4th, 2008 01:06:58 PM
I have come to the conclusion that Underoos Hero is a dumb fuck retard. Go rewatch your Transformers DVD fuckstick!
TDK IS NOT AN A&E BIO ON BRUCE WAYNE by Underoos Hero	May 4th, 2008 01:07:47 PM
And Santa Clause is not real. Go wash your underwear.
Lashlarue by Underoos Hero	May 4th, 2008 01:08:52 PM
You see what I'm saying. You prove what I am saying. You need to come to terms with your looserness and embrace it.
You will not find a TDK break down in.... by Underoos Hero	May 4th, 2008 01:10:15 PM
American Journal of Science.
BB supporters are.. by Underoos Hero	May 4th, 2008 01:12:29 PM
Fat, pasty white, doughy momma's boys, who threaten people on the internet. Tough men, all of you.
Hello, I'm a Hater by rhcp2sweet	May 4th, 2008 01:14:42 PM
And I come into TB's to bitch about movies that look great to get a reaction from other people. I know The Dark Knight is going to suck because I've seen two minutes of the movie which is a great gauge of how it's going to turn out.
Let me guess... by MJohnson	May 4th, 2008 01:16:07 PM
The Dark Knight haters are the same morons who actually thought the Spiderman movies were good... Elapsed time it would take Batman to kick Spiderman's ass: .01 seconds. Unless Peter Parker's emo-dancing...then .0000000001 seconds.
Underoos Heros by Lashlarue	May 4th, 2008 01:18:13 PM
I've come to terms with my loserness. I now realize how bad Batman Begins truly was. You sir, are a goddamn genius. Thank you for showing me the light. You've changed me, forever. There's no going back.
Not a fan of Batman Begins by Gmurrin	May 4th, 2008 01:18:39 PM
Batman talked in a lame "Clint Eastwood/man with no name" or "Snake Plissken" gruff whisper. Such a stupid tough guy cliche. And the action sequences were mostly lame close ups and fast cuts, the most boring way to present action. For action sequences, gimme Hong Kong era John Woo, or Cameron or Speilberg. Wide dynamic masters, and even fairly wide "close ups." The only Batman movie I liked was that first animated feature(title escapes me). I will reserve judgment for TDK until I see it, but for now...meh.
Gotham City by Wonderboys	May 4th, 2008 01:23:18 PM
I love the fact that they use a real city, wether its recognizable or not. It makes the enviroment more real and the movie more believable. Metropolis being New York in Superman made all more true (Hell, I recently was in NY and visited the Daily News (Planet in the movie) bulding, I almost cry). In Burtons Batman everything looks fake fake fake, and in all Batman movies prior to Begins. I think Chicago its a great choice to represent Gotham City.
if you don't like begins, you are a nazi pedophile by ironic_name	May 4th, 2008 01:24:28 PM
or something.
Underoos Hero by Lashlarue	May 4th, 2008 01:25:13 PM
Have you ever watched MAS*H? There's a great song at the beginning of that movie that you should listen to. It has a great message, and I feel like you could really learn a lot from it.
Lashlarue the Looser from the East. by Underoos Hero	May 4th, 2008 01:29:30 PM
MAS*H? ahhaha. You watched Mash? Just keep that dinky hole shut from now on. You've just explained it all.
9/11!?!? TOO SOON!!! by LaserPants	May 4th, 2008 01:29:59 PM
OMG I WAS SO DEEPLY EFFECTED BY THAT NEWS FOOTAGE THE ENTIRE COUNTRY EMOTIONALLY JERKED OFF TOO FOR DAYS, MONTHS, YEARS!!! I WAS SO DEEPLY EFFECTED THAT I'M STILL PRETENDING TO CARE AFTER ALL THESE YEARS!!! EVERYONE IS A HERO!!! EVERYONE ELSE IS A VILLIAN!!! BLLLEAAAARRRRGGGHH!!!! AIEEEEEEEE!!!! GED DOO DAH CHAHHPPAH!!! DOO EEED NOW!!! ITS NOT A DUMOR IDS NOD A DUMOR AD ALLLL!!!!
IF YOU DON'T LIKE BEGINS YOU SUCK DISEASED DONKEY COCKS!!! by LaserPants	May 4th, 2008 01:31:11 PM
SUCK EM ALL DAY LONG!!! AIEEEEE!!!!!!
Biggest Joker question mark.... by thecomedian	May 4th, 2008 01:31:55 PM
Will there be smilex gas that kills people with smiles on their face? No creepy corpses with smiles = not the real Joker. I'll accept it if the performance is good and I can see how they wouldn't have the Joker using the smilex gas since they already treaded that ground with the fear gas in BB but it would still be disappointing since they're basically taking the Mass murderer angle, the thing that really makes him so dark and creepy in the 1st place and doing away with it.
If only.... by JayWells87	May 4th, 2008 01:34:44 PM
If only some one were to find Underoos and keep him in their basement for 22 years, raping him daily and the like. Then we wouldn't have to deal with his stupid troll bull shit. I swear, some people really do deserve to get skull fucked.
No, But Seriously, BATMAN BEGINS Was Great by LaserPants	May 4th, 2008 01:35:13 PM
I don't see how any fan of the character, or the superhero thing in general, wouldn't at least like it. I think its great. I loved the whole ninja training thing especially. I thought the Sandman stuff was great too with his "bad trip" chemical weapon. I'm sure TDK will rock the socks of geeknation. BUT, I think IRON MAN is gonna pwn it at the b.o.
If Nolan were to... by Underoos Hero	May 4th, 2008 01:35:15 PM
Come downstairs into your little Warcraft War rooms and hold out his penis, I really and truly beleive that most of you BB faithfuls would at least hold it in the palm of your hands and rub it with the tips of your cheetos covered finger tips.
Not Sandman, Scarecrow by LaserPants	May 4th, 2008 01:35:59 PM
Duh, sorry
Yeah, Mash. by Lashlarue	May 4th, 2008 01:36:50 PM
You know that film made by Robert Altman. Ahh, You've probably never heard of him. It was before your Hero Michael Bay started making movies. I'll tell you what Underoos Hero. When you get out of middle school, you can start discussing movies with the rest of us adults.
thecomedian.... by JayWells87	May 4th, 2008 01:36:53 PM
Maybe Joker uses a variation on Scarecrow's nerve gas? Scarecrow worked with the mob, and it seems Joker will control it for a time....
Underoos Hero, You Speak Like A Man With Experience by LaserPants	May 4th, 2008 01:38:12 PM
giving cheetos flavored hand jobs to random men in your basement. Eerily vivid imagery, there. Been thinking about that alot lately?
I'm bored of Batman by ZeroCorpse	May 4th, 2008 01:39:49 PM
He's been remade and watered-down so many times that I just don't find him very interesting. He's become quite a two-dimensional character, and his villains are just slightly more extreme versions of Batman himself. I think the only people who are hardcore Batman fans now are either young guys who think the whole bat/dark thing is cool ("He's like a ninja, yo!") or people who are slightly psychotic themselves and see something in the whole "Bas Rutten meets Donald Trump meets James Bond" personality of Bruce Wayne. The Burton movies sucked. Batman Begins was decent, but still fell back on the James Bond gadget-fighter formula, instead of being a gritty detective story. If they made it more like SE7EN, it would rock. Unfortunately, Hollywood has this idea that Batman movies have to be action flicks, and so we get lots of `splosions, lots of gadgets, lots of gunfire and shaky cameras, and very little of what makes Batman interesting in the comics: HIS BRAIN. The ONLY reason Batman can hang with the JLA and be considered one of the most important people in the DC Universe is because he's a fricking genius, sneaky as hell, and NOT prone to fighting first. If he can find a solution that doesn't involve explosions and batarangs, he'll do it. He's smart enough to take down superhumans when he has no powers, and yet the movies always paint him as more of a ninja, less of a thinker. I don't hate Batman Begins-- I thought it had the right tone and did a good job with some of the characterizations, but I just think it fell apart once the fighting began. I really did NOT need a fucking car chase scene in a Batman movie. If you look at it, you'll see that all the non-animated Batman movies have been James Bond with a bat mask.
LaserPants by Underoos Hero	May 4th, 2008 01:39:54 PM
The fact that you can relate tells me something as well.
Is there a petition we can start or something... by JayWells87	May 4th, 2008 01:40:27 PM
...to ban Underoos? Harry? Moriarty? Anyone?
I never thought I would say this... by Pops Freshemeyer	May 4th, 2008 01:41:23 PM
But goddamn, couldn't they have brought back Katie Holmes? Thought everything in the trailer looked great, except for Maggie Gyllenhall. I don't get it...is she auditioning for the lead role in a live action Droopy movie?
Ledger´s Joker by PedroM	May 4th, 2008 01:41:41 PM
Doesnt look like Heath. You cant see the actor behind the character. And not just because of the makeup, it looks like he completely immersed in this role. I´m so fucking excited. See how his voice goes completely different delivering the line "For tonights entertainment" and other mannerisms....
JayWells87 by Underoos Hero	May 4th, 2008 01:42:25 PM
Because I dont agree with your little pudgy beleifs? Are you a Christian?
ZeroCorpse..... by JayWells87	May 4th, 2008 01:43:22 PM
How dare you be bored with BATMAN!!??? Blah blah blah, hate spewing and such..... :) Actually, in some interviews Nolan and Co. said they were focusing more on the detective side of Batman in this one. The marketing has a bunch of explosions and such, but that may just be to get butts in seats for something more. I agree with you that they should focus a bit more on that, and I hope they do.
So, Underoos Zero.... by Lashlarue	May 4th, 2008 01:43:31 PM
Which do you think was the best Bring It On? Was it the first one? I bet it was the first one. I mean, like totally, the sequels were good and all, but there was NO WAY they were ever going to top the first one. It was, like, a masterpiece, or something.
JayWells87 by Underoos Hero	May 4th, 2008 01:44:26 PM
Heaven Fobid anyone would come along and not like a comci book movie and trash it on a website. Hey AICN guys, can you SAVE ME?!!
All of you fucking fat hater geeks would cream by Teh Suk	May 4th, 2008 01:44:36 PM
Before you got your minisculr dicks out of your underoos if Maggie Gyllenhall wanted to fuck you. So shut your fucking zitty faces up. The WOMAN is beautiful and a way better actor than Mrs. Scientology ever will be. Shut your fucking holes.
The Rachel Dawson character in general... by rbatty024	May 4th, 2008 01:45:41 PM
was kind of weak. Holmes didn't help any, but she really wasn't given a lot to begin with. The entire film consisted of her wagging her finger at Bruce Wayne. I hope they give her a more lively persona this time around. Although, it didn't bother me too much because most of the film kick tremendous amounts of ass.
Pudgy beliefs? by JayWells87	May 4th, 2008 01:45:42 PM
what the hell does that mean? It's not because you don't agree with me, it's because you're a massive tool who threatens to rape them or their mothers when they disagree. What, can you not take what you dish out on these boards all the time?
JayWells87 said...... by Underoos Hero	May 4th, 2008 01:46:19 PM
"Is there a petition we can start or something......to ban Underoos? Harry? Moriarty? Anyone?"......Are you serious? Goddamn you little shits really really really do take this seriously. Oh god..ahhahah
CLOVERFIELD 2 IMAGES by LittleDudes	May 4th, 2008 01:47:23 PM
http://tinyurl.com/6fw6qr
Umderoos I already told you by Teh Suk	May 4th, 2008 01:47:26 PM
STFU. Don't make me kill you.
JayWells87 by Underoos Hero	May 4th, 2008 01:48:03 PM
I've never done that....You need to read back through these TB's and see just the opposite. It's been you little fan boys who've done that. Get your facts straight. I mock people but I don't make threats. Especially on a TB. NOT COOL.
Underoos Hero by Lashlarue	May 4th, 2008 01:48:07 PM
This is for you. YOU ARE A FUCKING FAGGOT PIECE OF SHIT!!!!!!!! YOU ARE A FUCKING FAGGOT PIECE OF SHIT!!!!!!!! YOU ARE A FUCKING FAGGOT PIECE OF SHIT!!!!!!!! YOU ARE A FUCKING FAGGOT PIECE OF SHIT!!!!!!!! YOU ARE A FUCKING FAGGOT PIECE OF SHIT!!!!!!!! YOU ARE A FUCKING FAGGOT PIECE OF SHIT!!!!!!!! YOU ARE A FUCKING FAGGOT PIECE OF SHIT!!!!!!!! YOU ARE A FUCKING FAGGOT PIECE OF SHIT!!!!!!!! YOU ARE A FUCKING FAGGOT PIECE OF SHIT!!!!!!!! YOU ARE A FUCKING FAGGOT PIECE OF SHIT!!!!!!!! YOU ARE A FUCKING FAGGOT PIECE OF SHIT!!!!!!!! YOU ARE A FUCKING FAGGOT PIECE OF SHIT!!!!!!!! YOU ARE A FUCKING FAGGOT PIECE OF SHIT!!!!!!!! YOU ARE A FUCKING FAGGOT PIECE OF SHIT!!!!!!!! KILL YOURSELF UNDEROOS HERO! IT'LL BE A GOOD MOVE FOR YOU.
Yeah, I did say that. by JayWells87	May 4th, 2008 01:49:08 PM
Cause everyone is tired of your bull shit. I hope that makes sense to you, asshole. You may be serious with what you're saying, or just having a laugh poking bears with sticks, I don't know. i don't care. I'm just tired of being poked. Shut the fuck up. Done.
Teh Suk. JayWells87 by Underoos Hero	May 4th, 2008 01:49:08 PM
hahahahah. See what I'm saying. Cryptardians for sure.
I don't make threats either. by Teh Suk	May 4th, 2008 01:49:15 PM
Underoos, stfu.
Relate? by LaserPants	May 4th, 2008 01:49:34 PM
I can relate to giving myself handjobs. Does jerking off make you gay? Does it make me gay?! OMG!!! I think it kinda does. OMG!!! EVERYBODY'S GAY!!! (Don't tell my girlfriend, though... she already thinks I'm only fucking her for the money.)
Keep it up. I kniw who you are by Teh Suk	May 4th, 2008 01:50:16 PM
and where you live.
Never done that? really? by JayWells87	May 4th, 2008 01:50:43 PM
So when you threatened to rape my ass on the last DK board, that wasn't a threat? was that your way of asking me out? cause dude, this is the wrong kind of site for that.
JayWells87, Lashlarue by Underoos Hero	May 4th, 2008 01:51:04 PM
Do you guys need a hanky? How you guys go eat a bowl of Capn' Crunch and watch some cartoons. It'll be alright.
I can't spell because of the desire to kill him. by Teh Suk	May 4th, 2008 01:51:06 PM
Yup.
JayWells87 by Underoos Hero	May 4th, 2008 01:51:50 PM
You brought that up if i'm not mistaken.
That's it, I'm coming over, Underoos. by Teh Suk	May 4th, 2008 01:52:00 PM
Better have some beer and chips ready, bitch.
I'm going to be there all day. by Teh Suk	May 4th, 2008 01:52:54 PM
We're gonna watch golf.
sigh by JayWells87	May 4th, 2008 01:54:12 PM
Just...never mind. I'm done. Not bothering anymore. God as my witness, I'm never biting at Underoos's bait again. I'm not gonna waste time on this, I got shit to do. Good luck Teh Suk.
Teh Suk by Underoos Hero	May 4th, 2008 01:54:22 PM
Ok...You sure you don't want me to have the D&D table set up? I have some cool 100 sided gold dice I just paid top dollar for.
Where's the version with Joker's graffiti? by la_sith	May 4th, 2008 01:54:27 PM
I love this, but the alternate is so much better. Anyone know?
JayWells87 by Underoos Hero	May 4th, 2008 01:56:02 PM
hahahahahhh....Good job Jolly Roger. You figured it out!!! And let me be the first to congratulate you on being the first. I hope we've all learned a lesson here today boys and girls. This shit doesn't matter. Oh god this is fun.
Underoos Zero by Lashlarue	May 4th, 2008 01:56:49 PM
Everybody hates you. Your mother wishes that you had been a miscarriage. Your father is hoping you'll never find him. The kids at school pick on you. Wouldn't death be better than this miserable life you have to live? Suicide is an option. You do have a choice.
Underoos by JayWells87	May 4th, 2008 01:57:07 PM
I admire your stamina, you son of a bitch. :)
YOU GUYS KILL ME.... by Underoos Hero	May 4th, 2008 01:57:58 PM
hahahahah...You all get your little undies in a fucking wad over this shit. Hence my Handle. Surprised no one has gotten it by now. Then again....I'm not.
Lashlarue by Underoos Hero	May 4th, 2008 01:59:29 PM
Yes my boy...let it out. You don't have to hold it in. Tell us what you're feeling. It's ok to bash and hate anonomously. Good Job
comes out two days after my birthday by Ommadawn1959	May 4th, 2008 02:03:24 PM
Heh, heh...
Underoos Hero sucks Michael Bay's cock every night. by Lashlarue	May 4th, 2008 02:04:32 PM
And he swallows too...:P
in 2 days, most of your posts will seem really weird by ironic_name	May 4th, 2008 02:05:21 PM
you'll be threatening someone who isn't there, people will say; Underoos? what are they talking about.
ironic_name by Underoos Hero	May 4th, 2008 02:07:24 PM
Yea the threats are waaaay too much. haha. They threaten me so regulary that they mistakenly think that I've done the same thing. It's like a liar, he thinks everyone is lying too. Shame and sad.
I'M BILLY DEE WILLIAMS, AND I ENJOY BUTTHOLE PLEASURE by ironic_name	May 4th, 2008 02:07:55 PM

I guess when you lack any sense of intellect... by Underoos Hero	May 4th, 2008 02:09:52 PM
That is all you can do. Threaten someone. You damn sure can't speak intelligently or even come up with an imaginative or funny joke.
I'M TOMMY LEE JONES, I LIKE TO CHOKE MYSELF WHILE WANKING by ironic_name	May 4th, 2008 02:10:21 PM
party mahan, tell yuh wut his nayum ees party ma-han!
i really hope by stevenmeetsworld	May 4th, 2008 02:10:47 PM
http://tinyurl.com/5k7x4c these sort of things are fixed.
To explain why a lot of these posts refering to Underoos Hero ex by Lashlarue	May 4th, 2008 02:11:21 PM
Underoos Hero was annoying troll who posted on every TDK talkback. Every post was about how he thought Batman Begins sucked, and how TDK would suck too. He was a stupid ass fuck, and subsequently was banned from the talkbacks. After learning that he was banned, Underoos Hero killed himself on May 5th, 2008. May 5th is my birthday, and Underoos Hero gave me the greatest gift of all. Thank you, Underoos Hero. Thank you.
Eric Roberts is Sal Maroni by Pagliacci	May 4th, 2008 02:11:48 PM
Longtime Batman comic bad guy. If someone else hasn't already posted it. And would the haters go do something constructive and put in there Spiderman DVD so they can wack-off to Tobey Maguire. This will be so superior to every comic book-based movie, it won't even be close.
screw all this batman/nolan hate.... by Andillformthehead	May 4th, 2008 02:11:49 PM
Meanwhile, why didn't they make Iron Man's suit fold up into his briefcase like in the comics? LOL
I'M PRINCE, AND MY LAST ALBUM TANKED by ironic_name	May 4th, 2008 02:12:10 PM
owwwwwwuh!
I'M PRINCE, AND MY LAST ALBUM TANKED by ironic_name	May 4th, 2008 02:12:12 PM
owwwwwwuh!
Lashlarue by Underoos Hero	May 4th, 2008 02:13:07 PM
Let it out man. You're getting the attention you deserve.
MY NAME IS PRINCE. AND I AM FUNKY [AND DBLPOST] by ironic_name	May 4th, 2008 02:14:36 PM
GAME.. BLOUSES.. WHO WANTS WAFFLES.
Are some of you 11 years old? by Pagliacci	May 4th, 2008 02:15:37 PM
You should kill yourselves. It's what all the cool people are doing. Go do it. Right now. But first get a butcher knife and carve a big smile on your face!
the thruth is.. I AM IRONMAN! [credits] by ironic_name	May 4th, 2008 02:16:22 PM

MY NAME IS DAVID BYRNE by Underoos Hero	May 4th, 2008 02:17:17 PM
and I burn down houses. OWWE and she was!!
I AM SPARTICUS by ironic_name	May 4th, 2008 02:17:58 PM
tbjamming. does it work?
I AM LEGEND by Underoos Hero	May 4th, 2008 02:19:10 PM
and I was a not so good movie.
I'M MORLEY SAFER by ironic_name	May 4th, 2008 02:19:44 PM
AND I MAKE GOTHAM CITY MORELY SAFE
I AM ELVIS PRESLEY by Underoos Hero	May 4th, 2008 02:20:00 PM
and I have left the building.
I AM DOUCHEBAG by Lashlarue	May 4th, 2008 02:21:06 PM
But my screen name is Underoos Hero
I AM TRYING TO BRING US TOGETHER, WITH A SILLY FAD by ironic_name	May 4th, 2008 02:21:14 PM
I'M A UNITER, NOT A DIVIDER.
Lashlarue by Underoos Hero	May 4th, 2008 02:22:07 PM
ahha...not original but not bad. Keep trying.
ironic_name by Underoos Hero	May 4th, 2008 02:23:02 PM
I caught on. I do the same here some times. God these talkbacks are a hoot.
I AM STALLONE AT THE END OF DEMOLITION MAN by ironic_name	May 4th, 2008 02:24:14 PM
Lashlarue, you gotta get a lil dirty, Underoos Hero.. you gotta get a lot clean. ahhh, you guys will work it out.
NOW SANDRA BULLOCK, HOW DO YOU USE THOSE SHELLS? by ironic_name	May 4th, 2008 02:24:30 PM

Alright, I gotta go play GTA 4. by Lashlarue	May 4th, 2008 02:24:35 PM
But it's been fun. WHY SO SERIOUS?
batzilla by LarryTheCableGuy	May 4th, 2008 02:25:02 PM
if that scene with scarecrow and the jokers face is true, i will shit my own balls.
Lashlarue by Underoos Hero	May 4th, 2008 02:25:32 PM
Don't hate me cause I'm cool.
I'M DENNY CRANE, AND I LIKE MIDGETS by ironic_name	May 4th, 2008 02:26:53 PM
or something. the joker would enjoy this thread.
I'M RIP TAYLOR by Underoos Hero	May 4th, 2008 02:28:01 PM
and i like mustaches.
I'M ERROL FLYNN by Underoos Hero	May 4th, 2008 02:29:35 PM
and I had absolutely no problem wearing tights.
I'M OUTAHERE by Underoos Hero	May 4th, 2008 02:30:11 PM
cause this TB is officialy dead.
i'm chevy chase by LarryTheCableGuy	May 4th, 2008 02:36:20 PM
and youre not. i don't get this but whatever.
i'm godzilla by LarryTheCableGuy	May 4th, 2008 02:37:15 PM
and u r japan
by the way	May 4th, 2008 02:38:32 PM
i like BB
I AM WILLIE NELSON'S BRAIDS, I HAVEN'T BEEN WASHED SINCE 92 by ironic_name	May 4th, 2008 02:41:42 PM

I AM LIBERACE by the book	May 4th, 2008 02:48:58 PM
and I'm a gay pianist.
Shot of Batman 'flying' by bomalley81	May 4th, 2008 02:50:06 PM
This movie looks awesome. I noticed at 2:07-2:11 that batman must be 'flying' in Tokyo (where they filmed) because the buildings have Japanesse symbols on them. I'm not sure what this means though. Either Nolan chose not to remove this noticeable detail for some reason, didn't notice it (which seems impossible) or batman is in Tokyo. Anybody have any ideas.
Cast Evan Rachel Wood as Catwoman by CarmillaVonDoom	May 4th, 2008 02:53:34 PM
in the sequel. http://tinyurl.com/3t7gk5 This IS Selina Kyle.
I am Prince Caspian by AntoniusBloc	May 4th, 2008 03:05:15 PM
Not particular impressed with Ledger's Joker, Nicholson played it perfect, but Burton just used a really bad script...but the one great line Jack delivered, in an insanely entertaining way, 'winged freak terrorizes....wait 'til they get a load of me'
L OVE L OVE L OVE IT!!!! by BrightEyes	May 4th, 2008 03:08:56 PM
Everything about this film looks perfect but nothing looks as perfect as Ledger. God Bless Him.
US Senator Patrick Leahy made the trailer! by Pagliacci	May 4th, 2008 03:09:49 PM
He's in the film as a cameo - huge Batman fan, and you can see him on the left to a gun with his head right when Joker says "Hello Beautiful." You nerds should appreciate my vast knowledge of American politics.
Are you high Carmilla? by BrightEyes	May 4th, 2008 03:11:47 PM
Evan Rachel Wood is not Catwoman and never will be, You actually think she has what it takes to act with the arena of actors in the Batman franchise. She is so overrated, go watch thirteen again the film which everyone sites as her being a great actress, All she is doing is playing a part any young girl could do.
No more new villains... by Pagliacci	May 4th, 2008 03:18:29 PM
I don't think any more members of Batman's rogues gallery should be introduced - I don't know if they would translate well to Nolan's image. Maybe a crazy-ass Mad Hatter. Not even the Riddler would really be pseudo-realistic though. I supposed you could have a bloated business tycoon named Oswald Cobblepot, but white collar crime isn't as exciting as lunacy.
CarmillaVonDoom by apolo_sputnik	May 4th, 2008 03:21:26 PM
You have a boner for catwoman. And a boner for Evan Rachel Wood. May be good for your personal fantasy, but she is NOT Catwoman. Now, go spank your monkey.
For those who don't like the "...die a hero" line by Oski	May 4th, 2008 03:21:58 PM
What's wrong with it? I get that you guys disagree with it, I recall in the other talkback somebody saying "i guess our troops are all villains.." Well consider this, it's a line of dialogue spoken by Harvey Dent. It's not a message that the movie is trying to send. Batman is the hero, we know he doesn't die. We also know Harvey Dent becomes Two-Face. We should know by now that it's more than just physical disfigurement that makes Harvey turn into Two-Face, he already had something wrong with him. That's why the line of dying a hero or becoming a villain makes perfect sense for him. He's already messed up somehow inside that will lead to him becoming a villain. You aren't supposed to agree with that line, it's not how Bruce/Batman thinks, it's what Harvey believes.
politic nerd by sylvester stabone	May 4th, 2008 03:25:57 PM

George W. Bush - "become the villain" by Pagliacci	May 4th, 2008 03:28:36 PM
From 90% approval rating on "Mission Accomplished" Day to 22% approval rating now, and hated by everyone with a brain.
politics are g to the ay by sylvester stabone	May 4th, 2008 03:29:32 PM

"politics are g to the ay" by Pagliacci	May 4th, 2008 03:34:06 PM
Yeah, I mean, who wants to know how the world works and stuff, right? Clearly you're not a member of Mensa.
About Lovers and Haters... by Organs	May 4th, 2008 03:35:04 PM
The idiocy of these threads on this site astounds me. And that takes a lot, considering how familiar I am with the internet. It's really simple. Some people are so ridiculously infatuated with the franchise that, even if the new movie was just a two hour camera shot of a pile of dung, they'd still call it the greatest Batman movie ever. It's equally hilarious when the Lovers get offended by the Haters. It's really simple: some people will like something, and some people won't. We're all free to comment as we please, so don't be surprised when people who DON'T like what they see voice their opinion. Heath's Joker still doesn't work for me. Sorry. Not the least bit scared. And in my opinion, Moriarty should shut the fuck up about how no one should be laughing but the Joker. It's more that he finds sick, horrible things funny. He can still make a funny joke about it; it just has to be in incredibly bad taste.
Could'nt they hire a prettier actress to play Rachael by Stalkeye	May 4th, 2008 03:36:16 PM
than Maggie? She's too much of a butaface. Where's (Tom) Cruise's wife, locked up in his mansion?
well this is a movie news site?? by sylvester stabone	May 4th, 2008 03:36:17 PM

well this is a movie news site?? by sylvester stabone	May 4th, 2008 03:36:25 PM

Jesus Fucking Christ. by apolo_sputnik	May 4th, 2008 03:36:58 PM
So many fucking cry babies here. Batman has been interpreted hundreds, if not thousands of times. This is yet another interpretation. This is a franchise in which fans should rejoice, not cry like a fucking baby who just spilled their milk. Nolan takes this franchise seriously. There is * A LOT * of care given to so many details. We * FINALLY * have a Batman series that is void of catering to the lowest common denominator. At it's core is a complex story with complex characters that are "re-imagined" to make them more realistic. I don't want to wipe all the cry bitch's asses, but fuck, stop crying. This is no Schumacher and no Michael Bay's take on our beloved hero. No nipples, and no flames. This Batman will ROCK your world if you just leave your fucking tissues at home. And you know it. Life is just easier if you BITCH about everything, isn't it? Fucking lame ass cry babies.
SCARECROW in the van by saintaugust	May 4th, 2008 03:37:46 PM
anyone else notice the scarecrow driving the van batman lands on?
That was the best toy commercial... by poeticwarriorII	May 4th, 2008 03:39:05 PM
I ever did see!!!!! The only problem with it is a gay crack whore in bad make-up wondered onto the set and fucked it all up.
Toby Jones must play the Penguin in the next one by Drath	May 4th, 2008 03:40:06 PM
You heard it here first, like Martin Freeman for Bilbo, this is simply a MUST HAPPEN choice of casting. I totally disagree with Pagliacci about the villains, bringing in people like Mr. Freeze, Catwoman, the Ventriloquist, Poison Ivy, Killer Croc, and bringing back people like Ra's Al-Ghul and the Joker is all fine. If they don't, this series will fall apart like the X-Men series in their rediculous "Sentinels are too Sci-Fi" nonsense. Anyway, I am amazed at how good Ledger has appeared to be as the Joker (I say it that way because I've been impressed ever since the first teaser and am not simply speaking well of him because of his passing). I totally did not think he'd be good for this role, but he's turned me around. I am sorry he won't hear the praises he was going to get for this. Yeah, nothing is sacred and sure enough there are trolls attacking him now, but to be fair there'd have been some backlash on him had he lived and anyone who played this part because it is so iconic. You can please no one all the time. I'm still not ready to applaud the "Batman March" as Mori has described it (talk about trying to legitimize such a forgettable theme), and I still think that everyone was stupid as shit to drop Danny Elfman from the franchise so long ago. He should have been brought back.
Batman 0wns Joo by Shub-Wankalot	May 4th, 2008 03:40:27 PM
Had to be said, right or wrong.
speaking of scarecrow in the van by LarryTheCableGuy	May 4th, 2008 03:40:56 PM
can anyone get a nice screen capture of that to check out. would be appreciated.
apolo_sputnik... by poeticwarriorII	May 4th, 2008 03:41:07 PM
its ironic how you piss and moan about cry babies yet you yourself sound like a 10 year old that just shit his pants.
when is dictator coming? by moseley asst	May 4th, 2008 03:42:17 PM
I saw the trailer for a new movie the other day and it was weird, it had a guy in a military uniform and a pig as his assistant and he took over the world. It was kind of funny. did anyone else see it? dictatormovie or if i were dictator by a company called birch films I think?
Gonna be good! by kirttrik	May 4th, 2008 03:46:02 PM
Everyone needs to take a deep breath, relax, and experience one of the best Summer movie seasons we've had in years. For god's sakes, no transformers this year. We should all be thankful for that.
The only problem I have with movie... by Andillformthehead	May 4th, 2008 03:48:38 PM
...is it's coming out a week later than BB did. This time around they should have done a weekend of the 4th of July but I guess the juggernaut that is Will Smith scared them away(?) I like Will but this should be our 4th of July box office beast...
month by Andillformthehead	May 4th, 2008 03:49:16 PM
Sorry should be a month later....
Merriman Lyon = Fucking Moron by dahveed1972	May 4th, 2008 03:55:26 PM
"Michael Caine's Mockney portrayal of Alfred is insulting and incongruous." Hey douchebag, Caine IS a cockney. That's his REAL accent. Dumfuck
Give me Maggie over Katie anyday by MontyPigeon	May 4th, 2008 03:57:33 PM
One is actually sane. Great trailer BTW.
I AM THANKING YOU FOR SAYING FAD AND NOT MEME by Guy Who Got A Headache And Accidentally Saves The World	May 4th, 2008 03:57:59 PM
MAY YOU REMAIN ACCURATE AND INFORMATIVE, UNLESS YOU WERE JUST QUOTING SOMETHING, IN WHICH CASE FUCK YOU.
Also, Heath's Joker resembles Scorpio from DIRTY HARRY by Drath	May 4th, 2008 03:58:17 PM
Anyone else reminded of that performance? Don't know why, maybe it's the hair and leaning out of the police car window that does it. Hopefully he'll call Gordon a stinking oinker at some point.
Merriman Lyon = Fucking Moron by dahveed1972	May 4th, 2008 04:01:28 PM
whoops. sorry wookie72. posted this before reading your spot-on bitch slap. Ignorant mutant
Underoos Hero's mum says by ultimateedition	May 4th, 2008 04:04:31 PM
he likes to play with young asian boys.. its true
Why judge a movie on the basis of a trailer? by versatol	May 4th, 2008 04:06:19 PM
History has taught us that a good trailer doesn't mean shit nowadays... and a bad one doesn't as well. Spider-Man 3 trailer... awesome though the movie sucked. Rise of the Silver Surfer trailer... great but the movie was so so. Iron Man trailer was so so... movie was great. Some people here are judging Ledger's performance and TDK on the basis of a stupid trailer... 2 minutes of a 150 f*ckin minute movie. Just wait til July and then start comparing Nicholson and Ledger, TDK and Burton, etc.
The bar has been set, y'all. Iron Man came in at by chrth	May 4th, 2008 04:07:31 PM
$100 million for the 'extended' (i.e. including Thursday night) weekend, which is about $15 million better than estimates. I guess the GTA effect was non-existent.
versatol: you forgot the granddaddy of them all by chrth	May 4th, 2008 04:08:40 PM
The Phantom Menace trailer was phenomenal.
I like the Harvery Dent line by zooch	May 4th, 2008 04:09:14 PM
"Live long enough to see yourself become the villain". It defines his character. Nolan gets it.
This trailer makes me want to do the Batusi by Thrillho77	May 4th, 2008 04:15:24 PM
Holy big, giant geek boner - even if it's a clit - Batman!
Merriman Lyon is really Joel Schumacher by johnyaztec	May 4th, 2008 04:16:01 PM
After reading Merriman post there is no doubt that it was Joel Schumacher who wrote it. Who else would want more dumb one liners, lame set designs and not a serious Batman. F-U Merriman Lyon, go watch your VHS copy of Batman and Robin GO SCREW!!!!!!!! FRUNNKUSS
This Fad Meme Has Got To Go by LaserPants	May 4th, 2008 04:21:23 PM
OMG SELF-AWARE PO MO SARCASM!!! THAT NEVER NOT HAPPENS!!!
TDK looks so dark. I love that, but boxoffice will suffer by Live.	May 4th, 2008 04:23:17 PM
Will anyone take the kids to see this? Sadly I think the kid friendly flick will make more money this summer. But TDK will definitely be the BEST movie of the summer.
since when does a movie matter by how much money it makes? by ultimateedition	May 4th, 2008 04:30:49 PM
the top 4 movies of last year made 300 million dollars each, yet i dont think a lot of people remembers those flicks with much love.. yet, great movies like zodiac and grindhouse tanked at the box office, and are still consider top notch films
re: Live by Andillformthehead	May 4th, 2008 04:32:46 PM
I dunno...people are doofuses...There were 3 and 4 year old kids at the Iron Man 12pm at the cineplex. Every time someone got killed (via gun, bomb or armor) I winced a little.
Way to spoil a major scene, movie trailer! by Kasch	May 4th, 2008 04:36:27 PM
Who's idea was it to show The Joker throwing Rachel off a roof in the FUCKING TRAILER?!?! Is there anything previews don't ruin these days?
My Cock is Hard!!!!!!!! by crackerfarmboy	May 4th, 2008 04:38:08 PM
Is that a problem?
Kinda looks like every other trailer in existence by Scapulawings	May 4th, 2008 04:38:49 PM
What's so special about this one? Because it's simply the new Batman movie? Sorry, but the trailer is ordinary.
You know what Scapulawings, by TerryMalloy	May 4th, 2008 04:46:36 PM
YOU are ordinary! Meh.
Boring movies for boring people by Merriman Lyon	May 4th, 2008 04:49:31 PM
I see the problem: it's the teenagers on this talkback who can't understand that a movie can have an individual vision: that it is possible for a talented direcor to do a successful period interpretation where Batman isn't wearing idiotic armour or driving a tank. Because the teens posting here don't know what 'period' means as their channel-hopping brains can't remember past 1999. Their understanding of entertainment is: cool vehicles, cool weapons and heaps upon heaps of explosions. So, guys, here's a plot synopsis of a Batman film just for you. Enjoy it; I know you will: Big Bat, he ride big car and go BOOM. Then boom, boom again. Roll credits There, you see - I knew you'd enjoy it.
Damn You Michael Bay by MCMLXXVI	May 4th, 2008 04:57:55 PM
Damn You Michael Bay
Merriman Lyon is a Marvel fan by BohemianMac	May 4th, 2008 04:58:19 PM
That explains it.
Batman should be more like the DEAD END version... by BohemianMac	May 4th, 2008 04:59:46 PM
Wearing something only a backyard wrestler could pull off.
Merriman Lyon by ultimateedition	May 4th, 2008 05:00:37 PM
well old man,what are you doing watching comic book movies anyways? i bet you feel much at home enjoying the bucket list or something featuring old people you can relate to, so please, keep your senile arse at the old men's home and let all of us teens enjoy life
earlier it was "twentysomethings" by Andillformthehead	May 4th, 2008 05:01:54 PM
now it's teenagers. The site is collectively getting younger by the minute. I think the world is moving too fast for some people. I too hate the MTV-ization of the media and for that matter society. But to lump these thoughtful films in because they don't fit someones myopic view of who Batman is a crime.
Maggie G is FUGLY by Da B-Meister	May 4th, 2008 05:02:25 PM
Maggie Gylenhall (or however the frig you spell it) is FAR from being an attractive woman. They really should have tried harder to find someone better to fit the Rachel Dawes role.
Driving the van... by Lord Megorious	May 4th, 2008 05:08:14 PM
http://tinyurl.com/4ju4up
These guys who are calling us "twentysomethings" must be... by BohemianMac	May 4th, 2008 05:10:53 PM
Angst-Filled forty year old men who have just realized that they have wasted their lives on the newest issue of Uncanny X-Men.
Harvey's "You either die a hero..." by hairlesspet	May 4th, 2008 05:12:14 PM
I see how many could consider the line to be incendiary and nonsensical, but I took it more as "The longer you're considered a hero, the more your heroism will be put to the test." How many of this country's great leaders and historic figures, even the most heroic and, have been pray to attacks on their character via in depth biopics and newly resurfaced info? To be a hero is to be scrutinized by the public. Makes sense to me. Trailer is awesome by the way.
re: bohemian mac by Andillformthehead	May 4th, 2008 05:13:28 PM
Actually, still reading that mint 30 year old comic in the mylar sleeve that says "Still only 35 cents".
Hahahaha. by BohemianMac	May 4th, 2008 05:14:47 PM
Touche.
re: hairlesspet by Andillformthehead	May 4th, 2008 05:14:59 PM
...wow. Yep.
Merriman Lyon wants to nutts so badly its not even funny by johnyaztec	May 4th, 2008 05:17:02 PM
Merriman Lyon wants to nibble on my yam bag.
165 minutes? by m_prevette	May 4th, 2008 05:18:46 PM
Gotta be incorrect. What self indulgence that would be.
Re: Wyoming-sized spoiler @ 1:56 by tylerzero	May 4th, 2008 05:19:38 PM
Fuck, if it weren't referred to as such, my naive ass would've assumed Batman was simply going to swoop in and catch her or some shit like that.
Batman Sequel for teen talkbackers by Merriman Lyon	May 4th, 2008 05:26:31 PM
Batman come in big wing in sky. He go BOOM BOOM. Then Micael Caine, he say EEL PIE. Batman understand: he dress like Robocop. BOOM BOOM. Jokerman, he speak with forked tongue. He go BOOM BOOM on little people. Then Batman come on BIG BIKE that go BOOM BOOM. He go BOOM BOOM on Joker's ass. Joker laugh. Batman go BOOM BOOM. Joker dies. Roll credits. Great movie.
Hi, I'm Adam West and I approve of this message by Hawaiian Organ Donor	May 4th, 2008 05:29:06 PM
Along with his canister of shark repellent and Bat Lederhosen, Batman needs a pair of Anti-Fanboy Brass Knuckles, and believe you me, when he punches you, rather than a "BORK!" or "YACK!" you can expect a sweeping overhead shot of bloody chiclets as Joe Hater gurgles on his own bile. Pot-bellied Batman's and microwave weapons aside, where's all this hatred coming from? I haven't seen this much public division since McDonald's tried to keep the hot side hot and the cool side cool.
Batman Sequel for adult talkbackers by BohemianMac	May 4th, 2008 05:30:47 PM
Batman is SUPER dark, making him SUPER cool. He has a SUPER cool tank, but he is getting a SUPER fast bike. Now he is fighting the SUPER scary Joker who is using a SUPER strong bazooka to create a SUPER explosion.
"Live long enough, become the villain" by MickXII	May 4th, 2008 05:31:22 PM
It's a pretty corny line unless you put it into the context of politics. Like JFK was killed, so now he's beloved, but a guy like Nixon lived and made bad choices and was seen as a kind of villain. I think that is what the line is about.
Merriman Lyon by ultimateedition	May 4th, 2008 05:32:11 PM
DUDE, OR EXCUSE ME SIR, ISN'T TIME FOR YOUR MEDS BEFORE SLEEPY TIME? SOMEONE SHOULD GET THIS OLD FART OFF THE COMPUTER, HE'S RAMBLING ON INCOHERENTLY NOW
Two-Face is IN the trailer... by JKrow21	May 4th, 2008 05:33:58 PM
I'm not sure if anyone has noticed this yet (talkback is too long to read) but he appears while holding a gun right before Harvey Dent's line about "You either die as a hero or you live long enough to become the villian." He can clearly see some burn tissue along his face but since it's a side profile, its barely noticable.
JKrow21 by ultimateedition	May 4th, 2008 05:35:05 PM
YEAH, YOU ARE JOINING THE PARTY LATE, WE ALL ARE AWARE OF TWO-FACE NOW
Batman MUST fly... by poeticwarriorII	May 4th, 2008 05:38:28 PM
in order to keep up with the titanium beast that is Iron Man. And to sell yet another Bat Toy of course.
You know when birds see their reflection in a window? by TerryMalloy	May 4th, 2008 05:44:28 PM
And they are all like "What is that other bird doing here?" and they get pissed and proceed to smash themselves into the window? It'd be hilarious if Batman did that in the movie. Right? Am I right?
zzzzzzzzz by malpaso	May 4th, 2008 05:49:07 PM
snore
Tom by TerryMalloy	May 4th, 2008 05:52:59 PM
How is it that you're awake but malpaso is sleeping?
IRON MAN by ultimateedition	May 4th, 2008 05:54:11 PM
I THINKS ITS FUNNY ALL THE LOVE IS GETTING, CANT WAIT FOR THE FIRST ONE TO DISAGREE AND TRASH IT TO PIECES OR ATLEAST GIVE IT SOME SORT OF BACKLASH... OH HELL, GUESS I SHOULD DO IT.. IRON MAN WAS, HOW SHALL I PUT IT GENTLY, A CUTE MOVIE, GOOD ACTORS IN IT, SPECIALLY ROBERT DOWNEY JR., HOWEVER, SOME OF THE ACTION SEQUENCES WERE EITHER BLAND, OR JUST UNINSPIRED, SPECIALLY THE LAST PART OF THE MOVIE, GUESS THE WAY SOME PEOPLE FEEL ABOUT BATMAN BEGINS, I FEEL ABOUT IRON MAN.. SO YES, TO ME IRON MAN IS OVERRATED
The talkback is proof by ZeroCorpse	May 4th, 2008 05:56:27 PM
I think this talkback shows the general maturity level and IQ of the average Batman super-fan.
ZeroCorpse, what are you a fan of? by BohemianMac	May 4th, 2008 05:58:23 PM
I've seen you badgering Batman fans, so I'm curious to find out what you enjoy to watch/read.
A-ha, I knew it... by Merriman Lyon	May 4th, 2008 06:08:49 PM
Kids here are too young to even know who Batman is. Stick to your Jar-jar Binks dolls, guys, you don't know what you're talking about. Batman is a totally different vibe. Firstly, Batman is PULP FICTION. It's like those old pulp detective stories from the thirties and forties - but with a bit of old school theatricality and a twist of depravity. Batman is NOT Jason Bourne and he's not James Bond. Nor is he Anakin Skywalker turning to the dark side. The Batman stories are SUPPOSED to be a bit cheesy - but take themselves seriously, like all pulp fiction. They have villians who are one half vaudeville clowns, one half psychopath - as is Batman himself. And he's a low-tech detective with some gadgets and tricks up his sleeve - not a tooled-up, armoured mercenary out of an Xbox 360 game. In a tight corner, he can box and wrestle but he doesn't do frackin' wire-fu. Gotham city isn't a shiny new city with clean glass corporate buildings and futuristic technology; it's a dank labyrinth of dark alleyways, seedy speakeasies, disused fire escapes, derelict amusement parks, desolate waterfronts, freakish museums - all of which serve as a reflection of Batman's own twisted psychology. It's got character, goddamnit and a dark frackin' soul - if any of you can understand what that means.
"omg batman does not fly" by Silverglade	May 4th, 2008 06:11:33 PM
He glides (gradually descending). and if you didn't already see this in the first flick, then your opinion is now truly irrelevant. Next.
Merriman Lyon by ultimateedition	May 4th, 2008 06:13:04 PM
SENILE
ZeroCorpse by TerryMalloy	May 4th, 2008 06:13:45 PM
ZeroCorpse by TerryMalloy May 4th, 2008 06:12:53 PM Here is the IQ breakdown for comic book character superfans. 1. Fans of the Incredible BobbyFischer=IQ 200. 2. Fans of SuperNietzche and VoltaireBoy=IQ 140 3. Fans of Spiderman=IQ 115. 4. Fans of Superman=IQ 90. 5. Fans of Batman=IQ 20.
"omg maggie!" by Silverglade	May 4th, 2008 06:17:58 PM
No one cares whether you find her attractive, jackass. Nolan got a girl who could act this time. "hot chic" is not essential, I just want a woman who can act off Bale and stand her ground in the take for god's sake.
TerryMalloy by ultimateedition	May 4th, 2008 06:20:12 PM
DO YOU EVEN KNOW WHAT AN I Q IS? IM SURPRISE YOU CAN SPEEL I Q ACTUALLY....
Batman is... by Andillformthehead	May 4th, 2008 06:21:23 PM
And has always been a "living" character. That is to say Superman is pretty much Superman. Batman has changed, adapted, won, lost, been somewhat chipper, downright morose, carried a gun, sworn to never carry a gun, etc. Out of all of DC pantheon of heroes Batman has adjusted to the times he was written and made (mostly) stronger by it. He is the malleable character in that he is a man and guided ultimately bt justice. He is not a "god" and thus give his writers the freedom to think first about the motivation and not the "power". I like Millers Batman, O'Neill's Batman, Dan Jurgan's Batman from JLI in the late eighties, et al. The think that makes the character timeless is the motivation and the core story not the individual interpretation of each writer. That's like me saying BTAS is better than the Batman in JL and JLI because even though the "voice" of Batman is there the incarnations are slightly difference. In truth they are both good. And different.
Ultemate Edishon by TerryMalloy	May 4th, 2008 06:22:12 PM
I doo too no wut a dadgum eye cue is. Dad gum...
Harvey Dent becomes the villian by zooch	May 4th, 2008 06:23:12 PM
when he's around long enough to see his due process and justice fail him.
Forget Harveys face at 2:03 by OQuaTanginWann	May 4th, 2008 06:25:21 PM
You can clearly see that his suit is a different fabric on the scarred side. If the joker does in fact scar him, that kinda sucks. It was some mob boss or something in the comics.
TerryMalloy by ultimateedition	May 4th, 2008 06:25:37 PM
I THOUGT SO... EVEN RETARDS ARE ALLOW NEAR A COMPUTER..
Andillformthehead... by EagleDelta1	May 4th, 2008 06:27:06 PM
Except the VERY first batman did carry a gun
I will eat yer firstborn child ultimit by TerryMalloy	May 4th, 2008 06:27:46 PM
No1 makes funna me like 'at.
Batman would destroy Iron Man by zooch	May 4th, 2008 06:28:41 PM
Bruce Wayne's mental prowess is far superior. Tony Stark is a drunk.
Sorry Andillformthehead by EagleDelta1	May 4th, 2008 06:28:44 PM
I was an ass to you - posted a response before I read the rest of your post. My apologies
TerryMalloy by ultimateedition	May 4th, 2008 06:32:06 PM
not really making fun of you mate, just stating the facts..
Tony Stark'd eat Batmen's firstborn child by TerryMalloy	May 4th, 2008 06:32:54 PM
Yeah...I reckon he wood.
So yer wonna those 'facts' people by TerryMalloy	May 4th, 2008 06:33:46 PM
Yer a damn elitist.
eagledelta1 by Andillformthehead	May 4th, 2008 06:37:00 PM
no worries..I apologize to all for the typos lol.
TerryMalloy by ultimateedition	May 4th, 2008 06:37:16 PM
you know, i have become the one thing i hate the most, which is someone that insults other just because they have an opinion of a movie (albeit, a very idiotic opinion sometimes)thats different then mine, and i have lower myself by calling you names, for that i apologize.. enough said
Well, boy, I'd take ya to the toolshed by TerryMalloy	May 4th, 2008 06:39:12 PM
But I don't think I ever gave an opinion one way or the other. I's just makin' fun of that there ZeroCorpse.
King Tut and Louie the Lilac for BAT 3 by FlyingToupee	May 4th, 2008 06:41:03 PM
Louie, played by Adam Sandler, could rob convenience stores of every Twinkee in Gotham. This causes Tut(played by the dude who plays Harry Potter's fat uncle) to start a gang war. Batman eats too many of the Twinkies while fighting Louie and gets obese. At this point in the film, Jack Black should take over for Bale as the overweight Batman(at the end of the film Bale would return after Black works out and eats Lean Cuisines every day for six months). It would gross 400 Million dollars, and do for Hostess what ET did for Reeses Pieces.
Steve Buscemi as the Riddler? by Jam Banjo	May 4th, 2008 06:41:54 PM
That may have been a joke, but it's genius - just think of Buscemi saying: "Riddle me this, Batman..." in his pissed off but casual manner.
I would like to see the 3rd one be a murder mystery by zooch	May 4th, 2008 06:42:25 PM
with Batman investigating a series of murders like in The Long Halloween. That way they could introduce a whole series of suspected villians.
Indy4 will make 150 million its opening weekend! by Orionsangels	May 4th, 2008 06:44:02 PM

Yer Mom will make 150 dollars this weekend! by TerryMalloy	May 4th, 2008 06:49:35 PM
That's right Orionsangels. I went there. Yer mom=whore.
batman 89 vs dark knight trailer comparison vid by LarryTheCableGuy	May 4th, 2008 06:50:16 PM
http://tinyurl.com/5oy6xc
Silverglade.. by poeticwarriorII	May 4th, 2008 06:50:26 PM
being an apologist is one thing, making excuses for having that droopy faced old chick in the movie simply because she can "act" is another. She looks so goddamn out of place in this movie it's like having some dude that spits and lisps while screaming in some goofy voice that he's Bat... OK, nevermind now I understand how she's in it.
You know who should have played Rachel? by TerryMalloy	May 4th, 2008 06:51:34 PM
Kathy Bates. I don't know why but I really like the idea.
"This Site deserves.... by Andillformthehead	May 4th, 2008 06:53:37 PM
...a different class of Talkbacker".
Wait, wait-- by TerryMalloy	May 4th, 2008 06:54:11 PM
Just hear me out... Ok, I have nothing to add
"Spoiler at 1:56" is the new "cheats on his wife and has a beer" by Mike_D	May 4th, 2008 06:56:34 PM
mark my words
maggie by Da B-Meister	May 4th, 2008 07:02:13 PM
Maggie can't act worth a fresh horse turd. I'd rather be looking at a hot chick than watching a poor actress. She couldn't hold her own against the guy who played Screech from Saved by the Bell.
Logically Kathy Bates... by poeticwarriorII	May 4th, 2008 07:04:52 PM
should've been the only choice. I mean have you seen the cankles on that fine ass ho? And with tits that droopy you wouldn't even care if she could act!
think joker will ever have a harley quinn by LarryTheCableGuy	May 4th, 2008 07:16:50 PM
in nolans versions?
I hope Nolan watches Iron Ma by mayorofsimpleton	May 4th, 2008 07:16:56 PM
and gets that he should be cutting out any change or cheesy shit like the "batpod". Just do Batman right, seriously, like the books, and it will be the best Superhero film of all time. Hell, I don't even care about Iron Man and I barely care about Marvel and I think that is the best Superhero film ever due to the way they treated the character
Who would you rather do: Batman, Robin, or Batgirl? by TerryMalloy	May 4th, 2008 07:20:18 PM

Batgirl And Catwoman Simultaneously by LaserPants	May 4th, 2008 07:24:06 PM
Throw Zatanna in there too! Ehs nac kcus ym kcoc litnu ti swolb toh muc nwod reh lacigam taorht! Abra Cadabra!
still wouldn't make anywhere near what Ironman did..... by Kai_Mah'gra	May 4th, 2008 07:25:40 PM
....search your hearts, you know this to be true. But in all seriousness, I'm even willing to bet that TDK will not make as much as Street Racer or PRince Caspian. As someone else on this talkback pointed out, it's not a movie that appeals to the familiy crowd that those other 2 or that even Ironman did. Plus DC and Warner have such lousy marketing departments of legendary and epic proportions it will a damn near miracle if this movie hits $70 million on it's opening weekend. Yeah, that's right, I said TDK will not even some close to making $70 mill in its opening weekend. Doubtless fanboys will agree with me, right??? LOL
New Simpsons ep hits AICN! by br1947	May 4th, 2008 07:26:11 PM
Comic book guy posts to a website called "Ain't it Fat News", LOL!!!
High School Superlatives by TerryMalloy	May 4th, 2008 07:30:02 PM
If Indy Jones, Batman, the Hulk, the Joker, and Iron Man went to high school together, what superlatives would they win? Discuss...
Not too excited about this... by the book	May 4th, 2008 07:30:07 PM
The "Batman Dark Ninja" thing is really playing out. I would really like to see him in a 40's era Gotham solving crimes and contemplating from his batcave. It'd be cool to see trying to solve a mystery, relying on his intelligence while collecting evidence and clues. Only to start coming to conclusions then leaving his batcave, showing up out of the shadows and giving the people involved a good shaking up and "what for". Then towards the end he solves the crime (the whole time the audience is not sure about the crime's clues either) and really puts a whoopin' on the main baddy. And keep Batman running from the law. Keep him in the shadows, in the dark and have him be a menacing shadow. Batman should also kick ass like a mans man, using his fists, slugging guys and knocking guns outa their hands. I understand Batman has evolved over the years in the DC Universe but I would just really like to see the story go back to a more naieve time. To have a Batman in this day and age of cynisism and Starbucks does not personaly work for me. Oh well. I'll spend my money on something else as I did when BB came out.
For all the of the Ledger haters. by Joey17	May 4th, 2008 07:31:11 PM
You keep saying he only did two good performances... Are you even aware he made Australian films? If you really want to make a judgment on him, first see "Two Hands", "Candy" and to an extent "Ned Kelly"
Wait one damn min by springheeljack	May 4th, 2008 07:31:54 PM
The images of that two face action figure had his hand also scared from whatever caused his deformation, but the trailer clearly shows his hand to be fine and dandy.
Joey by TerryMalloy	May 4th, 2008 07:33:04 PM
I am very anti-Australian, what with their strange accents and such. So I refuse to see those movies on a matter of principles.
Laserpants by TerryMalloy	May 4th, 2008 07:35:48 PM
Would you change your decision if both Batgirl and Catwoman were played by Cathy Bates? Or would that only serve to further solidify your choice? Discuss...
I hope Ledger kicks ass... by lynxpro	May 4th, 2008 07:36:12 PM
...because I still feel that Eccleston would have given a better performance of a twisted soul...especially had they used Hamill's voice for the more manic moments. Talia Al Ghul better show up in the sequel...whether she's played by Monica Bellucci, Rhona Mitra, Rachel Weisz, or Angelina Jolie.
Jimmy Stewart as Batman by TerryMalloy	May 4th, 2008 07:37:45 PM
"Well, I--well I--I guess I'm--I'm Batman, ya see..."
TerryMalloy by Joey17	May 4th, 2008 07:39:11 PM
I think you are confusing Australians with New Zealanders...
Continues to exceed my expectations by dr sauch	May 4th, 2008 07:39:51 PM
Listen. Usually, I get really mad when people don't like something I'm excited about. Its like they're shitting in my cereal, it just makes it less enjoyable for me. But not with this. I am beyond excited. I have resolved myself to patience. I don't want to watch trailers, I don't want to see posters. I'm going into see this at LEAST a week after it opens, so that I can see it without talkers and babies. This will be a cut above anything comparable that has come out in the last 5 years. I cannot wait.
How much you wanna bet, Unknown User? by TerryMalloy	May 4th, 2008 07:41:59 PM
The Dark Knight will fall prostrate before the god that is "Sex and the City: The Movie!"
Joey by TerryMalloy	May 4th, 2008 07:43:39 PM
I think you are confusing me with someone with an actual opinion...
Batman would take his killed face off by TerryMalloy	May 4th, 2008 07:44:19 PM
And shove it up Iron Man's steel asshole.
The hype on this film in enormous. by zooch	May 4th, 2008 07:46:35 PM
The great marketing. Heath Ledger's death and performance. This film is going to skyrocket.
Batman would take his shit covered hand by TerryMalloy	May 4th, 2008 07:50:25 PM
And paint penises all over Iron Man's steel body with the fecal matter
The Killing Joke...Theory by spidermanfreak20	May 4th, 2008 07:50:37 PM
In the first teaser. You hear Joker say "Starting tonight people will die...I'm a man of my word." Watching this trailer. I think maybe Batman sets him off. Which is why Gordon in turn destroys the signal. I'll explain. I don't believe Rachel would die when Joker pushes her out of the window. Otherwise they'd never show it in the trailer knowing we fans would speculate as such. Rachel only confronts the Joker at the party to distract Joker and guests as Bruce slips into the Bat costume hence the "Then your gonna love me." Moment. Bruce was there Rachel knew he needed to become Batman and created a distraction so Bruce could become Batman. Batman proves a good fighter (no shit he's a ninja) so Joker drops Rachel in order to slip away. Batman plunges to catch her and obviously does since WB would not be dumb enough to spoil her death. BUT Joker does blow up the Hospital which we've seen in two trailers. This causes me to believe Rachel is inside the hospital recovering from her fall and dies THERE. Which is why you see that shot of Dark Knight cowering his head. Then again looking sad inside his offices. You also see a large stakc of money being burned. It is known in the prologue that Joker steals the mobs money only to get their attention and use as leverage so they wont kill him. He gets in the meeting. And proposes to help kill the Batman or he will burn the stash. NOW we see the stash burning. They do say Joker is about anarchy. But burning the stash would not be smart because the Mob would kill him. So I think. Batman found his hideout by maybe putting a bat tracer on him at the party and saw the cash and realized justice would be served if he just burned the money. The mob would take out the trash and kill Joker. A joke for dropping Rachel. My guess is Batman went rogue on this issue and didn't contact Gordon. So innocents died because Batman burned the money to screw over Joker but it just pissed him off to blow up an entire hospital. Fire for fire so to speak. I think Joker turns himself into the police station much like John Doe to tell them he hid a bomb somewhere. Batman tries to beat it out of him. Finds out it's the hospital and they arrive to late and Joker gets sprung from the station due to corrupt cops or his goons. That's my theory.
Because he is THAT clever and dark and brooding by TerryMalloy	May 4th, 2008 07:51:11 PM
and stuff like that
TerryMalloy by Joey17	May 4th, 2008 07:53:47 PM
I guess you are confusing me with someone who wasn't making a joke.
Marlon Brando as Batman by TerryMalloy	May 4th, 2008 07:54:14 PM
"Who am I? Who...am I? I am...[mumbles incoherently]"
Joey by TerryMalloy	May 4th, 2008 07:58:18 PM
I guess you are confusing jokes with someone who was serious.
Batman would spread his bat wings by TerryMalloy	May 4th, 2008 08:00:09 PM
And show Iron Man his large, impressive wingspan
Batman would remind Iron Man by TerryMalloy	May 4th, 2008 08:04:36 PM
That the nineties was a strange decade.
By the book... by Merriman Lyon	May 4th, 2008 08:05:30 PM
You said it. Now THAT'S a Batman movie I'd be happy to see. Throw in some shady underworld character, an abandoned amusement park/museum/scence laboratry, plus a couple of punch-ups and there's your movie.
The mask at 1:06.... SPOILERS by OnceSawAnIronMask	May 4th, 2008 08:14:22 PM
Um... It's not the Scarecrow, I don't think. It just looks like a guy in a clown mask, one of those bank robbers. Unless we're talking about a different scene?
why not enjoy them all by Silverglade	May 4th, 2008 08:14:46 PM
Why do fanboys insist on not allowing themselves to have more than one favorite? Why not love Iron man, Batman, and maybe Hulk too? Why always trying to invent competition between them all? Why always obsessing about their box office tallies like it was your own personal bank account? At the very goddamn least, DC and Marvel are DIFFERENT UNIVERSES, all things considered. The my "my daddy can beat up your daddy" posting only shows you are a complete ass. Just have fun and enjoy this time we get.
Joker sprung by corrupt cops by spidermanfreak20	May 4th, 2008 08:16:09 PM
That makes sense because he is letting the wind in his face from the cop car. What cop would let you do that? A corrupt one getting you out.
Silverglade by TerryMalloy	May 4th, 2008 08:16:34 PM
My daddy CAN beat up your daddy.
Also... SPOILERS by OnceSawAnIronMask	May 4th, 2008 08:17:34 PM
Is 2:03 our first look at Two Face? Note the scarring.
And I was making fun of the whole thing anyhow by TerryMalloy	May 4th, 2008 08:18:18 PM
Don't really care one way or the other. But irrational hate can be fun. You should try it out.
TerryMalloy by Silverglade	May 4th, 2008 08:19:53 PM
No. Mine has repulsor lifters AND one of those glide through the city gadget thingies. ;)
One strong gust of wind and Bat-Man will.... by wackybantha	May 4th, 2008 08:21:57 PM
....fall off the Sears Tower and fall to his bloody, bloody death......consequently, doing the Joker a huge ass favor. The lesson here is: Don't stand on skyscrapers brooding or thinking or even just for kicks. It could be your last time.
Batman would bang way hotter chicks than Iron Man by TerryMalloy	May 4th, 2008 08:23:00 PM

What you fail to realize wackybantha by TerryMalloy	May 4th, 2008 08:24:56 PM
Is that Batman checks the weather and ONLY stands on skyscrapers when the wind is blowing at a safe level. The man has to brood in style.
Favreau by warsinthesun	May 4th, 2008 08:26:03 PM
There's quite a difference between Favreau and Nolan. Let's just put it this way: Favreau makes films that no one will remember fifty years from now(iron man included). Nolan does.
Merriman Lyon by the book	May 4th, 2008 08:28:09 PM
Yep, that would be cool. I really dug the look of Batman in Batman Dead end. Those guys did a really good job with it and showed that you can make a guy in tights not look corny on screen. I wasn't digging the Alien Predator thing too much and the Joker was a bit Las Vegas. Unfortunately I don't think that we'll ever get the Batman that I described earlier.
i wonder by futurecop	May 4th, 2008 08:40:17 PM
how long we can go before someone decides to bash someone for believing something different....the comment about hating someone for their beliefs and then asking them if they are Christian?? I'm Christian and you don't see me swearing and cussing at everyone just cuz they might not like Batman...if you don't like comic book movies or specifically Batman, why are you even wasting away ur day posting on this??? Can we please keep this to talking about the trailer or the movie and not about personal vendettas just cuz someone said something about ur mom or about World of Warcraft...ughh....I think the trailer was sick, every time i see something new on Batman or any major comic book hero I get excited cuz I think there's always going to be a part in all of us that likes getting in tough with the little kid inside...i love comic book movies and ive never read a single comic book ever...it's just fun seeing all these things we grew up with being realized and having it be changed to relate to our live I.E. Iron Man...I think we can all agree that these movies provide some sort of escapism and that's what going to movies is all about....Im not one of those people that watches the Oscars and rents the one that wins Best Picture...its usually a very depressing movie anyway and if im spending 10 bucks (clearly already depressing), i wanna laugh and be entertained...thats what Batman does..Im sorry for the people that think they are toooo mature for these things cuz there's a difference between being immature(like swearing viciously at someone for multiple hours), and wanting to watch something entertaining, like a fun superhero movie.
allright, seriously.......... by sonnyhooper	May 4th, 2008 08:41:27 PM
......if you are still hung up on "batman '89" it's probally well past time to let it go. also time to take off your acid washed jeans, take down the milli vanilli poster, and stop jerking off to pictures of cindy crawford. come join the rest of us in the 21st century. also.... the idea of making a batman film set in the 1940's? sure, great idea..... that would appeal to about 2% of the population: comic book nerds and period piece geeks. apparently comic book movies are not a hard enough sell? we need to set them in the not-so-distant past too? why not make it in black and white while we are at it? so apparently, the goal is to make a batman movie that NO-ONE wants to go see? BTW- just for the record i'm a huge batman fan-boy. i've been reading the comics since 1975, and as much as i love "year one" and "killing joke" the idea of taking those books and making shot-for-shot films of them is fucking stupid. just because it's a great comic dosen't mean it will translate well into film. seriously, think about it.... a shot for shot film of "year one" would be, quite possibly, the most BORING film ever make. "the killing joke"? again...........great BOOK, horrible FILM. heck, even alan moore says that "the killing joke" dosen't have a lot going on under the surface of it. when the best writter in comics says his batman book is thin on plot, maybe it's better off to just take bits and pieces of the source material that work instead of basing a whole movie around said book?
the bet by futurecop	May 4th, 2008 08:47:22 PM
Iron Man would totally win cuz he's a womanizer that got that mean reporter in the sack right away...she was soooo friggin hot btw...Now look at Maggie G....not hot at all...plus Bruce has too much on his mind, like bein crazy in his Batsuit....I think Tony's a friggin player...the bar scene where he forgets every girl's name..hillarious...i love how they spaced these two movies out so once ive watched Iron Man so many times i know every line, Batman comes out and i get to watch that a zillion times....the only problem i had with Iron Man is i dont think any kid that watches it is able to go home and play superhero and be able to act out Iron Man...Iron man pretty much flies around and shoots repulsors...nooottttttt too much fun to act out...but batman idk...other than that i really do believe Iron Man was the closest to being perfect of any superhero movie ive ever seen.
futurecop by the book	May 4th, 2008 08:49:04 PM
I like comic movies and fantasy movies for the same reason. For fun and escapeism. I don't like dramas and gut wrenching realism. I go to the movies to escape, I read comics to escape. This is another beef I have with the Nolan Batman. For me (which is why I didn't go to BB and won't go to TDK)this new Batman franchise is trying to hard to be gritty and "real". I don't want to see someone being tortured or uselessly shot in a Batman movie. We live in a reality TV world and a lot of these youngsters here on this talkback grew up with this type of fed television. A good example is this; I like the old school horror flicks, Creature, Frank, 30's mummy and I really dig the 80's slash film. Now these days we have to have trash like Hostel, Saw and those crap turds that followed. If you like that cool. Not me. I don't enjoy it.
i agree by futurecop	May 4th, 2008 08:51:25 PM
it's wayyyy more fun seeing what they can do with multiple sources of comics to work with...sticking to one doesn't appeal to all the people that might prefer another issue...i love what Nolan is doing with this series i actually feel like it could last as long as the Bond saga...i just hope Nolan and whoever follows him doesnt turn Bale(connery) into a roger moore.
by Juggernaut125	May 4th, 2008 08:52:14 PM
"When the Joker makes a joke, he should be the only one in the room who laughs. Everyone else should want to throw up." That's what it's like for me.
by the book by futurecop	May 4th, 2008 09:02:52 PM
I think the one thing that makes me happy with the Nolan series is that directors are starting to make levels for people...ill explain...when i was watching BB i was actually kind of freaked out from the Scarecrow drug and its affects...like i was thinking "If that happend to me w w i do?"..its freaky...I would never take my son (if i had one) to see BB or TDK unless they were over probably 13 or 14...its just tooooo dark and creepy for them. Spielburg wouldnt let his kid see Jurassic Park cuz he said it was too scary....we might look at that movie now and be like pssshhhh nooo it cool not scary...but to a kid, they arent on the same level as us. Fantastic Four is for families with little kids because its just plain family friendly...Iron Man is rediculously fun and applies to an even broader audience because of the sexual situations and the idea of terrorism, also something i wouldnt let my son see if he was too young....Batman is now an escape for me since im 21 and am aware of all the crap this world is going through...so even why it is verrryyy dark and trying to be realistic, it reminds me of Batman Returns...when i first saw that i was freaked out...Penguin being overly sexual with Catwoman, the bondage and leather, the darkness of the city, etc....I think Batman will always be dark and should be for the priviledge of being a level up from other superhero movies...Spidey 3 was supposed to be dark and then they had jazz emo dancing...maybe family friendly, but annoying to others...Batman will never put tight jeans on and tapdance because our age never wants to see that.......also, I do like the Saw movies, but not for the violence, I like Jigsaw for the same reason people liked Hanibal Lecter...i'm going to be a forensic psychologist so finding out about the mind and what psychos are thinking appeals to me...prolly another reason why insane villians like Joker and Two-Face will always be more interesting to me than Doc-Ock and Venom....
futurecop by the book	May 4th, 2008 09:10:38 PM
That's cool. You're quite a bit younger than I am and I can tell you that I had that phase too. I thought that as I was getting older that I should be getting into an older mindset with "everything". Then I realized that you just can't do that if you want to enjoy life. You can only keep a clinched fist for so long. You're going to have to relax it after a while. But never the mind I hear what you are saying and I can't blame you for it cause we all did it.
btw by futurecop	May 4th, 2008 09:18:56 PM
Im not saying now that im older i only want to stick with more mature comic book movies...comic book and mature dont really go together lol...i might regret saying this but i confess...I watched Fantastic Four about 50 times...so its not like im like ewww wayyyy too family friendly...i just like the differences..i feel like if im in the mood for a mindless fun comic movie ill put in FF, if i want to pop some popcorn and just watch and pay attention ill put in Spidey 2 or even Blade 2 which i actually enjoyed a lot...then when i feel like a mysterious movie ill slap in Batman...i just love the range we have today that past generations didnt have...my dad whos 57 was like "Wow..that was really..idk..dark and gloomy" after seeing BB and realllyyyyyy loved Spiderman and Spiderman 2....i think these comic book movies are just as much works of art as the comics that started it all......yeah i feel like it could be a phase, just like people keep tellin me im gonna grow outta drinkin Guinness...but for now...Guinness and Batman seem like an aweeeessssooommmmeeee combination.....lastly...i really appreciate getting feedback from someone who knows not to resort to profanity just because people dont agree with them...you bring up awesome points and i feel like im actually responding to an adult, not a geek with turrets...
Anyone notice AICN on Simpsons tonight? by Series7	May 4th, 2008 09:20:44 PM
Seeing that this is the only current TB going on right now.
voice by futurecop	May 4th, 2008 09:26:30 PM
yeah its a little weird...kind of like a Richard Dryfuss thing...idk...im sure it will be one of those things that we dont notice after hearing it for a while when the movie is going on...honestly i never even noticed a problem with the bat-nipples until people commented on it..then i saw their point...so idk...yeah its a little weird, but the fact that he friggin always licks his freaky acid lips is more disturbing to me than the voice
That's because Jack Nicholson is the One True Joker... by Chishu_Ryu	May 4th, 2008 09:28:34 PM
Heath Ledger (God bless his soul) is more like the Son of the Joker, if you get my meaning...
also you have to consider... by sonnyhooper	May 4th, 2008 09:28:37 PM
..that nolan set his batman movies in the "real world" to give the general movie going public something to identify with on a personal level. the average person can't identify with a rich kid who lost his parents at a incredibly young age and therefore decides to dress like a giant flying rodent and fight crime. bruce wayne isn't as easy to identify with as say..... peter parker, everyone has been an awkward teen-ager, not everyone is a super-rich orphan. so you have to give the people in the audience something to relate to, and in the case of batman the best and maybe only way to do that is to set the characters in something that resembles the "real world".
The last time Merriman Lyon read a comic book, FDR was still pre by Oski	May 4th, 2008 09:29:36 PM
Not really, but I will do an accurate portrayal of him: "Ugh, I think it's cool to disagree with everyone! I'm going to say I hate this movie even though the last one was critically lauded. I'm going to say it's aimed at children even though it's extremely dark and not kid friendly in the slightest bit. I'm going to pretend I have an affinity for a bygone era of comics even though I can't tell the difference between the Golden Age and the Silver Age. Etc, etc, I am a poseur!
sonnyhooper, um, bats aren't rodents... by Chishu_Ryu	May 4th, 2008 09:31:24 PM
Your zoology lesson for the night
Albertson! by TerryMalloy	May 4th, 2008 09:33:04 PM

What's with the Nicholson lovefest? by Thrillho77	May 4th, 2008 09:34:17 PM
Sure, I liked the performance, but how come he gets the "Saint" treatment with it? Heath definitely looks like he could knock it out of the park here.
Doesn't Two-Face open the trailer? by tiredpm	May 4th, 2008 09:35:33 PM
"Where do we begin?" That's not the Joker or any of the other characters we've seen (well, heard) in the series so far. Sounds like Two-Face to me. Plus, he could be talking to himself.
Jack Nicholson is the Babe Ruth of Jokers by Chishu_Ryu	May 4th, 2008 09:36:39 PM
Heath Ledger will be more like Lou Gehrig...
If there was like a Holy Trinity of Jokers... by Chishu_Ryu	May 4th, 2008 09:39:07 PM
Jack Nicholson would be the Father, Heath Ledger would be the Son, and Ceasar Romero would be the Holy Ghost. Amen.
wookie1972 huh? by messi	May 4th, 2008 09:41:28 PM
Shocker was voted one of the most popular villains of all time. he's an awesome 'cool' badass villain. you say he's lame and then say you want gorilla grodd. and daniel day lewis to play gorilla grodd?? what the fuck?
gee, not shit, ryu? by sonnyhooper	May 4th, 2008 09:41:34 PM
because the "flying rodent" is an ironic statement straight from the comics. and everyone knows bats a mammals. but thanks for playing anyway, drive through.
In the Trinity of Jokers by zacdilone	May 4th, 2008 09:44:11 PM
Mark Hamill has to figure somewhere.
the book by messi	May 4th, 2008 09:46:03 PM
how can you have an opinion on the Nolan Batman if you haven't seen it, it's shot like an English drama and is realistic but it's not fucking Children of men which was ultra real.
Mark Hamill is probably the Archangel Michael of Jokers... by Chishu_Ryu	May 4th, 2008 09:50:02 PM
Because the Holy Trinity I believe would be reserved for live action Jokers only...
seems to me.... by sonnyhooper	May 4th, 2008 09:52:26 PM
heath has studied his jack, his ceaser AND his mark hamill, and his take will no doubt bring something new to the table because of it. but of course, people are gonna hate him and whatever he does in this film because he once played a gay cowboy. and thats totally understandable because most people are fucking morons anyway.
I'm Sure I'll Be Rather Disappointed by Joey_Redballs	May 4th, 2008 09:53:35 PM
I was rather disappointed after seeing Batman Begins. These trailers don't give me the impression I'll feel any different after seeing this one. Nolan is VERY overrated. It disgusts me seeing fanboys on here sucking his d*ck. Having said all this, my expectations are low for this movie, so maybe I'll be pleasantly surprised...who knows? P.S. Maggie Gyllenhal is UNattractive. P.P.S. "Why So Serious?"...Because You're Dead.
messi by futurecop	May 4th, 2008 09:53:51 PM
i can see the opinion...from watching the trailers and from word of mouth it prolly doesnt appeal to some people...i couldnt stand children of men but tons of people loved it..i never watched Resident Evil: Extinction and yet made an opinion on it...it's like saying u havent seen a Bond film and u wont cuz you arent into secret agents fondling women and outtrageous gadgets and spy stuff...its easy to make a generalization on the Nolan films, especially after seeing Nolan's other work like Memento....i agree with zacdilone too, Mark Hamill's Joker was pretty friggin sweet and tiredpm totally just blew my mind with that statement...now i gotta watch the trailer another 50 times lol
Surprised at the hatred for Batman Begins by Lovecraftfan	May 4th, 2008 09:57:18 PM
As much as i enjoyed iron Man BB was better.
Nicholson best Joker?! 98% of you guys are idiots... by MEMEOVORE	May 4th, 2008 09:59:58 PM
He wasn't playing the Joker, he was playing the same Nicholson heavy role he always plays, only with more schmaltz. He was pathetic, and anyone who's actully read Joker at his best, Arkham Asylum or Dark Knight Returns, knows it. I liked Batman Begins, but there still hasn't been a great Batman on screen. Bale had the motivation and maybe could come off as 'the world's top 00 decent fighters' but nowhere close to 'world's greatest detective'. These good guys and bad guys, as translated to film, are always watered down. Iron Man and possibly Spiderman have been the closest to actually capturing a similar spirit in their films as in their source material.
Probably right about Two-Face, tiredpm... by Chishu_Ryu	May 4th, 2008 10:00:43 PM
My, what big ears you have! Let's all hope that Aaron Eckhart finally buries any remaining memories of Tommy Lee Jones in red make up...
This looks better than everything else by Gozu	May 4th, 2008 10:02:32 PM
Easily. Some of the dialogue I could do without (I hate the Rachel Dawes character and every single line she had in the last movie and in this one) but overall, it looks like it delivers. "Iron Man" was good, but in a cut and paste sort of way. THIS looks like something special.
Jack didn't have to play the Joker... by Chishu_Ryu	May 4th, 2008 10:02:50 PM
...because he IS the Joker.
3 HOUR RUN TIME? I SMELL DISASTER BATMAN by jah_kingdom	May 4th, 2008 10:08:34 PM
Are you fucking kidding me? That's excessively long. The producers should force Nolan to edit it down. I loved Batman Begins-I just re-watched it this week and enjoyed it as much as the first time. And there's no doubt in my mind that Nolan's gifted. But c'mon. 3 hours? I was excited as hell for the Dark Knight, until I heard it's going to be a 180 minutes. I have the attention span of a doctor(I'm not really a doctor) and even I'm tiring of movies with run times past the 100 minute mark. Instead of "director cut" DVDs, they should release a "realistic cut."
I hope it's six hours by Gozu	May 4th, 2008 10:21:16 PM
With an hour intermission.
No Joker beats the Irish Joker from... by J-Dizzle	May 4th, 2008 10:27:19 PM
...the old Adam West show. "Top of tha mornin' to ya Batbrain, blahahahahahahahahahahaha!
If you dont like IM then you are deaf, dumb and retarded by quantize	May 4th, 2008 10:32:17 PM
..and have no fucking taste.. Batman Begins sucked.that is a fact..it had a bunch of great elements but limped along under whatever Nolans pretentions were. I hope TDK is much better...and fuck you wankers who call anyone who is justifiable suspicious (since BB DID fucking suck) a hater. Grow a fucking imagination jerkoffs.
Going out on a Ledger with this... by TransFattyBlogger	May 4th, 2008 10:37:05 PM
...but, there is no truth that this "performer" shot the reshoots of The Joker after Heath had died.... http://www.theweeklydonut.com/ index.php/2008/05/01/the-dark- knights-nemesis/
Trailer just "ok", less that I hoped for... by conspiracy	May 4th, 2008 11:09:42 PM
color me disappointed. I still want to see it...but less than before. And I'm not sold on Ledgers take on Joker either...just doesn't seem maniacal enough...but I'll wait to pass final judgment till I see the whole thing.
a definitive Dark Knight story finally after all these years by surgeonviper	May 4th, 2008 11:18:52 PM
I stumbled upon the Dark Knight Returns back in 93 and was floored by the development of the charector. For me it is the genuine definitive version of the Batman origin. So you probably know how I felt watching Batman and Robin in the theater in 1997. I wanted to throw eggs, and burn the screen, i was so pissed off I couldn't finish a sentence for a week. Joel Schumacher lost me forever. And you would think the story is over. I mean what could someone do for Batman, that hasn't already been done on the big screen After seeing Batman begins. It took awhile for me to come around to it.I guess I was detoxing from my appreciation for Tim Burtons first. It is one of those movies that is so carefully put together and deep, that over time it gets better and better. Now with the Dark Knight... Having seen the trailer, and read the Killing Joke, and Arkham Asylum, I am speechless to comprehend how A director like Chris Nolan, who is from another country and probably didn't even grow up with BATMAN has just nailed D.K. in a way that is not supposed to be possible for a comic book movie. Apparently we are witnessing a master.This guy is not going for an easy story, this looks like an epic the likes of Hollywood legends. If this is any inch as good as the trailer... They better sign, Nolan to an extra five episodes immediately. Because this is all him baby. Kudos, Nolan
Spoiler at 1.56 and YES she dies by antonphd	May 4th, 2008 11:19:31 PM
Here is the LA Times piece confirming the fact that she dies. http://www.latimes.com/enterta inment/news/movies/la-ca-echka rt-2008may04,0,3210342.story
the book is dead on... by poeticwarriorII	May 4th, 2008 11:23:49 PM
with what should be done with this franchise. Unfortunately when you've got writers so fucking stupid that the only plot device the stupid fucks can come up with is a giant microwave that mysteriously vaporizes the water in the underground pipes but does nothing to some douche standing next to it this is the kind of boring shit you're gonna get instead. This movie will struggle to make as much money as Iron Man and I hope they go in a different direction next time.
Panterarocks is anther winner... by poeticwarriorII	May 4th, 2008 11:28:39 PM
changing to Gyllenhaal was idiotic. She's totally out of place in this movie with people talking to her like she's some kind of Helen of Troy or something. God that was dumb. Maybe if her tits had been hanging out or something you could believe it. The way it is now is shitty.
laughs at the haters by 5 by 5	May 4th, 2008 11:34:32 PM
This movie is going to be awesome! You haters - hahahahahahah! Sucks to be you!
Regarding Maggie Gyllenhaal... by Mr. Nice Gaius	May 4th, 2008 11:40:20 PM
Those of you taking pot-shots at Mags, you're nothing more than a bunch of lonely, bitter liars. Each and every one of you losers knows that if that sexy broad approached your sorry ass, you would go south-bound on her in a fucking heartbeat. Idiots.
I love Gyllenhaal. by Smerdyakov	May 4th, 2008 11:41:13 PM
She's the Annette Bening of the new century.
5 by 5... by poeticwarriorII	May 4th, 2008 11:43:14 PM
This movie is going to suffer from anal fissures and a prolapsed rectum from the ass raping Iron Man is going to show this piece of shit. It's dead it just doesn't know it yet. Crack Whore Joker is lined up to suck another dick, you better hurry to get in line.
YackBacker by Mr. Nice Gaius	May 4th, 2008 11:43:33 PM
Hear, hear! I think you and I are in the same boat on this one.
It's interesting by krushjudgement	May 4th, 2008 11:44:08 PM
I love Batman Begins. I'm excited for Dark Knight, but this trailer seemed a little boring. I know that Nolan is a cerebral director, so I'm still excited. But when it played before Iron Man it just felt like it took itself too seriously. Iron Man was what I wanted right now, an intelligent well acted popcorn flick. Here's to hoping that Dark Knight delivers. I'm not saying I want it to be Iron Man, I'm just saying I don't know how I feel about it yet.
Mr. Nice Gaius & Smerdyakov... by poeticwarriorII	May 4th, 2008 11:45:45 PM
so you two are either 50 or you both enjoy pancake tits with nipples the size of a stick of summer sausage on a woman that looks 20 years older than she is. Is that about right?
Iron Man was far more... by poeticwarriorII	May 4th, 2008 11:48:03 PM
than a fucking popcorn flick. Far more. It's what Batman, Spider-Man, The X-Men, and the first Hulk should've been.
Pretty Much!! by Smerdyakov	May 5th, 2008 12:00:09 AM
Although I like that bad girl good girl thing too. Waiting for Ellen Page's first nude scene, too.
poeticwarriorII by Mr. Nice Gaius	May 5th, 2008 12:02:59 AM
Nope. But I'm cool enough to know a smart, sexy broad when I see one. (A simple Google search easily discredits your ludicrous description of her there, tough guy.) Besides, she certainly beats the vacant Stepford Wives-look provided by Mrs. TomKat that you and Panteraneverrocks prefer.
OBSERVATIONS: by hype1976	May 5th, 2008 12:05:08 AM
-if you're hating, you should really crawl back under your rock. -batman is in hong kong -there is a police funeral procession -eric roberts (maroni) and michael jai white (gamble) at mob meeting in a kitchen, lau is also present on a monitor -gotham general hospital is blown up -explosion eminates from an alleyway -lucius fox on a hong kong heli-pad with lau? what am i missing? -dawes and dent at their engagement party? -batman crashes down on a van driven by the scarecrow -joker crashes dawes and dent's party -bruce lamenting dawes' death in his penthouse apartment? -joker in front a burning a pile of money -new batcave, in the substructure of bruce's highrise? -new suit w/ swivel neck -dent is about to get burned by a drum of fuel with a fuse of 2 wires -rachel is pushed off a building by the joker, rachel dawes' death scene? -two face in the back seat of a car with a .38 on his way after the joker? -batpod in the subway NOT a mall -batman gliding through the hong kong skyline, having to do with the character, lau?
MAGGIE!! YES! by chromedome	May 5th, 2008 12:12:46 AM
those that don't "get" her, see Secretary. If you still don't find her attractive after that, you are utterly hopeless, and not worthy of any further wasted talkback posts.... Oh, and HEY, MNG!
Hey, chromedome! by Mr. Nice Gaius	May 5th, 2008 12:16:28 AM
Ah yes. SECRETARY. Nice to see some appreciation for the slinky sexiness of Maggie G.
Yeah like all you dudes could even get a girl like Gyllenhaal by BrightEyes	May 5th, 2008 12:17:28 AM
Please
Simon Pegg for Mr. Freeze. by Kid Idioteque	May 5th, 2008 12:29:21 AM
Rachel McAdams for Catwoman and Thom Yorke for Riddler. That's right. I said Thom Yorke.
Speak for yourself, BrightEyes. by Mr. Nice Gaius	May 5th, 2008 12:30:54 AM
Oh, but you probably are...
uhmmmmm by springheeljack	May 5th, 2008 12:40:36 AM
isn't it also possible Harvey's reason for bringing justice to Gotham to be to avenge the death of a previous love? why does everyone think it's Rachel dawes?
I liked the "Jokerised" version better by half vader	May 5th, 2008 12:40:44 AM
that the guy won in the contest. Dork Knight indeed.
2:03 Two Face reveal - YES! by Lenny8	May 5th, 2008 12:42:00 AM
Yes, you can see the scarring AND the material on his left shoulder is different. He is in full blown Two Face getup here! What a tease!
Moonlight namechecked AICN on Friday... by lynxpro	May 5th, 2008 12:48:24 AM
Just thought I'd mention it.
Panterarocks by krushjudgement	May 5th, 2008 12:49:22 AM
I care if they can act. I'll take substance over image anyday brother.
put me in the Pro-Maggie camp. by samsquanch	May 5th, 2008 12:57:50 AM
Cheers to whoever mentioned Secretary. Still get a little twitch remembering that flick. Oh, and she's leagues beyond Homely Holmes in both acting skill and babe-hood.
1:31 = Awesome Joker shot by fractureJonze	May 5th, 2008 12:59:42 AM
His expression is almost right out of the animated series. Also, lynxpro what are you talking about?
lynxpro by fractureJonze	May 5th, 2008 01:03:04 AM

oops hit return too fast by fractureJonze	May 5th, 2008 01:04:06 AM
Where is the edit function?!
PG-13 TERMINATOR!!! by Motoko Kusanagi	May 5th, 2008 01:20:31 AM
That's some sad news indeed.
actually Maggie G and Katie Holmes look similar by zooch	May 5th, 2008 01:21:40 AM
except Maggie doesn't have that wierd mouth thing. So the recast makes perfect sense. Someone above said that it doesn't matter if she can act, well yeah, it kinda fucking does, you fucking moron. Also, my girlfriend looks like Maggie G and she's fucking hot, so fuck you!
zooch, I guess that means by samsquanch	May 5th, 2008 01:26:26 AM
I want to have sex with your girlfriend.
A note about 2:03 scene by blckmgk13	May 5th, 2008 01:27:32 AM
Some have wondered why his left hand isn't scarred as well? If we are to presume that earlier in the trailer when he is face down in the fuel/acid/liquid, then someone is probably holding him down with his hands behind his back. Just a minor thing that seems more reasonable then special editing on his left hand to fool everyone.
Oh and one other thing... by blckmgk13	May 5th, 2008 01:28:25 AM
Does anyone have a link to this Anthony Michael Hall picture everyone is talking about? I can't seem to find it.
leobloom by Thrillho77	May 5th, 2008 01:29:51 AM
but Two-Face is in the trailer! If you run it backwards from 1:47 to 1:32 you hear the Joker talking to Harley Quinn!!!
spidermanfreak20 by robertplant	May 5th, 2008 01:31:08 AM
jesus.
Kid Idioteque, geez man by half vader	May 5th, 2008 01:38:15 AM
The Simon Pegg thing was astoundingly uncreative. We've seen Dr Who too, y'know.
I AM VICTOR FRANKENSTEIN AND I ENJOY FISTING by ironic_name	May 5th, 2008 01:45:08 AM

Maggie Gyllenhalalalaaaalllenalaal by darthvedder81	May 5th, 2008 01:57:32 AM
She looks like a Cabbage Patch doll I had when I was 5.
Who would play Joker in the next movie? by Prof. Pop-Cult	May 5th, 2008 02:02:39 AM
This is not a spoiler, but I'm guessing that Joker does not get killed off in The Dark Knight. Instead, Batman captures him and sends him to Arkham. (I agree with the speculation that the final-final battle will be between the newly scarred Harvey Dent trying to kill Joker, but Batman stops him. This ties in with the whole idea that Batman creates and draws in the crazy villains who terrorize Gotham. By trying to do the right thing, and not becoming as bad as the villains he fights, he winds up creating them -- like Two-Face -- and keeping them alive.)
Do us a favour haters - by LabattsBleu	May 5th, 2008 02:09:26 AM
you don't like Nolan's Batman vision? Fine. Please come back when TDK pwns this summer and eat humble pie...
To whoever said BB was boring by Shadow Warrior	May 5th, 2008 02:46:05 AM
shut the fuck up. in the previous batfilms you see all sorts of action scenes but the stories suck and I didn't really give a shit about what happens to Bruce (which makes all the "action" scenes pointless and boring). BB was the first film where you actually cared about Bruce and wanted to see him dispense justice and kick ass. Nolan gave us a good story, Burton gave us things like the little dog catching the flying batarang, the Joker pulling a looong gun from his pants and shooting down a jet, penguins with jetpacks, a literally gothic gotham, etc. If you can't appreciate good storytelling you don't deserve Nolan. Iron Man was ok (i'm a bit of a fan) and it's a good time to be an iron man and batman fan, but IM wasn't as good as BB, and it seems a bit stylized which might not make it age well. BB and TDK are the Godfather 1 and 2 of comic book movies, not too stylized, more realistic (compared to other same type of movies), has a classic feel, gritty, and with kick ass stories.
Panterarocks by blindambition238	May 5th, 2008 03:38:14 AM
Word was that Holmes declined to show up. She wanted to do Mad Money instead for some godforsaken reason.
Two Faced? by The Dwayne	May 5th, 2008 04:32:17 AM
I thought they were going to have his whole half body scarred and not just his head? When he's holding the gun, his hand doesn't look scarred at all.
so iron man is good then? by FILMFUNK	May 5th, 2008 04:53:36 AM
Batman is in very safe hands with Nolan I got to take my kids to Mims Friggin Island this afternoon and sit there listening to IronMan booming at me thru the wall!!!
FILMFUNK, kill your children and see ironman 3 times by ironic_name	May 5th, 2008 04:56:35 AM
win win.
MAGGIE SUCKS!!!!! Get use to it. by Da B-Meister	May 5th, 2008 04:56:47 AM
Oh please, to all you dumbass morons trying to sing the praises of Maggie G. She looks like some trailer trash hick that ought to be giving me change at Walmart, rather than stinking up the big screen in a movie I'm trying to enjoy. She isn't sexy by any stretch of the imagination and she's got about as good acting ability as Bob Barker from 'Happy Gilmore'.
I love the bit wehre the batmobile saves the swat truck by ironic_name	May 5th, 2008 04:57:49 AM

your opinion on maggie, like mine, is pointless by ironic_name	May 5th, 2008 04:58:54 AM

where by ironic_name	May 5th, 2008 05:00:21 AM

I could knock em out and see it once! by FILMFUNK	May 5th, 2008 05:09:34 AM
or just refuse to see the family film and go on my own to Ironman but i think i may get divorced! Anyway a wee bit longer won't kill me but damn! I HAVE TO SEE IRONMAN!!!
Also Maggie thingimabob looks droopy! by FILMFUNK	May 5th, 2008 05:11:46 AM
but at least she can act and doesn't give me flashback gag reflex nightmares of Dawsons Crack!
Maggie looks like Katie's uglier but smarter sister by Chishu_Ryu	May 5th, 2008 06:03:51 AM
my two cents on the matter
I Dunno, Maggie G Looks Pretty Banged Up To Me by LaserPants	May 5th, 2008 06:09:05 AM
She kinda looks like a dude. Which dovetails nicely with Batman's one true love -- Robin. Seriously though, why not someone like Rachel Adams? She's hot and can act. Maggie G looks like a man, I'm sorry.
Katie H. is like the Virgin Mary of all Rachel Dawes... by Chishu_Ryu	May 5th, 2008 06:48:24 AM
where Maggie G. is like the Mary Magdelene...
I think Maggie G. is ugly BUT she can act sexy by blindambition238	May 5th, 2008 06:54:57 AM
When she first appears as the love interest in Stranger than Fiction, I just kinda shrugged, but by the end of the movie I was ready to do very inappropriate things to her character. In TDK, I doubt she'll get to act like that but still, theres more to sex appeal than just looks (like money).
I like maggie more... by biscuithead	May 5th, 2008 07:11:25 AM
...because i'm convinced that she's a living breathing human fucking being. Kate Holmes looks like a crap cgi effect. I seriously don't think she's a real person. She would look more at home in a Playstation game.
Aaron Eckhart will be the St. Paul of Two Faces... by Chishu_Ryu	May 5th, 2008 07:11:34 AM
...whereas Tommy Lee Jones was the fucking Judas...
Don't blame Tommy Lee Jones... by rbatty024	May 5th, 2008 07:59:09 AM
he wasn't given much to work with to begin with. In defense of Batman Forever, if they were going to remake the sixties Batman they could have done a lot worse (Batman & Robin anyone?). It was kind of a meh film and people rarely mention it. It's not as good as Burton or Nolan's Batman and not as unwatchably bad as B&R. It exists in some sort of interzone.
Batman Forever by Smoke Monster Loves Kate	May 5th, 2008 09:08:01 AM
was so much worse than the Burton films and yet so much better than Batman & Robin. That interzone should be called 'frustration'. What a waste of Jim Carrey as the Riddler. Robin was actually done alright I thought.
fractureJonze by lynxpro	May 5th, 2008 09:10:45 AM
I was saying that on the show Moonlight, AICN was mentioned as a competitor to the news website Buzzwire that the love interest works for.
Begins by Smoke Monster Loves Kate	May 5th, 2008 09:12:15 AM
was exciting as fuck the first few times I watched it, but then it became boring. Nolan's shaky-cam ruined all the action sequences. I just hope TDK isn't like that. I'm already beginning to think it might be. Though Joker isn't so much a fighter, he just sets up awesome action set pieces so it might be more Nolan's cup of tea this time.
And where is the Batman? by loafroaster	May 5th, 2008 09:12:46 AM
He's at home! Washing his tights!
Bats looks a little silly by BenBraddock	May 5th, 2008 09:29:07 AM
There's no getting round it. Close up is OK, but long-shots he looks pretty dorky. I mean, you'd laugh if you saw him in broad daylight, wouldn't you? Film looks pretty good though.
WOW! It looks... prententious as hell! by TheBigLebowsky	May 5th, 2008 09:57:56 AM
Just like the last bat-snore fest...
Underoos Hero: A sad little person indeed. by TheLastCleric	May 5th, 2008 10:47:11 AM
You’re not even remotely mystifying, as your sad antics on these boards suggest volumes about you as a person. Based on what you’ve written here, I’d say you’re in your 20’s or early 30’s and your life is unremarkable. You have few acquaintances and even fewer true friends and you feel invisible because you’ve accomplished nothing which is why you opt to come onto a message board and talk as much shit as possible to evoke angry responses. In here, even if you’re reviled, you get attention and that attention, however venomous and unsubstantial, makes you feel better about being such an anonymous and uninteresting person in the real world. What’s really interesting is how quick you are to call other people losers even though your own actions on these boards suggests a person with far too much idle time on his hands; not exactly the indicator of a mover and shaker in terms of personal and professional success. I mean, think about it: you write post after post after post deriding something you don’t like in some vain attempt to aggravate and diminish our enjoyment of a fucking movie. Even assuming you could affect anybody beyond the immediate aggravation of reading your unrelenting stupidity, do you really think it’ll be your dumb, lowbrow ass I’ll be thinking of when Ledger is redefining the character of the Joker on screen? It’s one thing to have a dissenting opinion, another thing entirely to wage a propagandist online war because you personally don’t like a film. (A film you haven’t even seen by the way, making me think you may have attended the Moviemack School of Shrill Cuntery) My advice is to find some joy in your life rather than dedicating yourself to trying to ruin other people’s pleasure. Just a thought.
Without Goyer this film will be tighter. by knowthyself	May 5th, 2008 10:59:18 AM
That entire third act plot in Begins was just out of place and too "wacky" for Nolans serious bat-verse. A device that turns water into steam. Ooookkaaayyy. No set up for the entire film and suddenly this thing shows up? Come on thats just lazy writing.
Ledger channels Dourif by 3031534x	May 5th, 2008 11:03:13 AM
Ledger's Joker seems like a warped version of Deadwood's Doc Cochran. Hair, stance, voice in the trailer's early shots... all of them remind me of Brad Dourif's Deadwood physician.
Bad Ass trailer by Rat Fink	May 5th, 2008 11:09:24 AM
This movie will kick so much ass. I already know it's gonna be my all time favorite
SPOILER at 1:28!!! by Mosquito March	May 5th, 2008 11:20:00 AM
Batman gives Bruce Wayne 'cowl'.
She Does Look Pretty Hot In That Pic TomBodet by LaserPants	May 5th, 2008 11:23:48 AM
Maybe I called her a trannie too soon! Thats a pretty hot pic.
AMAZING... by Refuge5	May 5th, 2008 11:27:24 AM
July can't get here soon enough...
Yeah, gotta let Tommy L J off the hook by BizarroJerry	May 5th, 2008 11:55:07 AM
Jones didn't play two-face bad. They just wrote him and or directed him that way. They basically just made him another Joker flipping a coin. Funny thing is, his very first scene in that flick was actually good. It was dark and they gave him some creepy lines and showed him crazy in a much more subtle way. Then after that, it all went to hell. Not to mention the cartoony colorful look of his face. Ugh, I swear, with one more Batman film, Schumacher would have added the "BIFF" "CRASH" "BANG" captions from the 60s series.
by BizarroJerry	May 5th, 2008 11:55:32 AM

regarding the trailer building fall by Bouncy X	May 5th, 2008 11:56:39 AM
before anyone picks a fit...possible spoiler stuff...blah blah blah..and now my point, i dont know why everyone is jumping and freakin out that we see her get thrown off in the trailer, i mean maybe that is indeed her demise but how often have we seen people thrown/falling off buildings to their death, only to realize afterwards they either somehow survived the fall or grabbed a ledge or something. even though its a split second scene that i never even saw til i found a still, i doubt they'd spoil a death in a trailer.
Smerdyakov - If you saw A.I., you've already seen Page nude. by Mosquito March	May 5th, 2008 12:05:11 PM
She was Haley Joel Osment's body-double in the pool scene.
Too sleek and empty by tapehead1	May 5th, 2008 12:17:14 PM
I really liked Batman Begins (although I still like the original Burton the best) but somehow I feel TDK doesnt have that immersive, organic quality that it needs. The shots feel empty and everything feels like a movie set. I imagine it will prove me wrong though.
Dent's hand's aren't burned in the comics right? by Brians Life	May 5th, 2008 12:34:38 PM
In the animated series, his whole body was scared but (using Long Halloween as my source) his hands aren't scarred in the comics...he usually wears gloves. I believe they USED to be back in the day
Dent's hand's aren't burned in the comics right? by Brians Life	May 5th, 2008 12:34:45 PM
In the animated series, his whole body was scared but (using Long Halloween as my source) his hands aren't scarred in the comics...he usually wears gloves. I believe they USED to be back in the day
Why no attractive women in comic book movies? by I Hope You Die	May 5th, 2008 12:34:53 PM
Batman: Katie "Forehead" Holmes and Maggie "Grandma" Gyllenhaal. Spiderman: Kirsten "Hideous Melting Wax Work" Dunst and Bryce Dallas Howard. Iron Man: Gwyneth "Bucktoothed Scarecrow" Paltrow. It's like an ocean of ugly.
FUUUUUUUCK!!! And Two Face desctiption... by Brians Life	May 5th, 2008 12:37:47 PM
TWO FACE will look like the following.. All flesh is melted away and he's basically a charred skull with muscle tissue. it apparently looks VERY realistic and is MOSTLY CG and not make up. His eye socket and eyeball are fully exposed and you can see his teeth like in the comics cuz he has no lips. His suit is burned down the center, but I don't think he'll ever get a designed half suit. The color scheme for the make up is mostly charred black with bits of pink for musculatore. Been told it's pretty disgusting looking.
I really want TDK to be good, but this trailer by finky089	May 5th, 2008 01:04:08 PM
actually made me less sure of things.
In defense of pancake breasts by Smerdyakov	May 5th, 2008 01:27:06 PM
At least they're different and more interesting than the rock hard robo-hooters that abound on Skinamax.
DGDB by toadkillerdog	May 5th, 2008 01:28:05 PM
You are quite correct about Bryce Dallas Howard in Spiderman3 - she was very hot. Now, if someone wants to say she was not hot in her earlier movies appearances, I could not disagree. She has grown into her looks, and is without a dobut a much better blond than red-head. As for Maggie, just look at the movie The Secretary. She burned up the screen. She may not be classically beautiful, but she is sexy as hell - when she is put in the right vehicle. I will reserve judgement on TDK, because afterall, these are only trailers. I would also say that the people who are saying that Heath has redefined the character, and desreves an oscar, really should wait until the movie comes out, before just judging by trailers. I hope he has redefined the role, but just wait ansd see before leaping to any conclusion based on a trailer.
I hope you die by Abominable Snowcone	May 5th, 2008 01:46:12 PM
You mentioned the lack of attractive women in comic movies. Well, if they do Avengers with the Pyms, and if they cast it right, Janet Pym (wasp) will be a fetchingly hot piece of ass
Dickblood by Abominable Snowcone	May 5th, 2008 01:48:05 PM
If Rachel gets thrown off a building in TDK, I hope to hell Bruce / Bats is unable to save her. When you're a 30 year old megamillionaire, you don't have to settle for a frumpy, selfrighteous plain jane.
are we watching the same trailer? by Smoke Monster Loves Kate	May 5th, 2008 01:51:45 PM
where's this two face stuff? and the throwing of rachel off a building?!
nevermind. by Smoke Monster Loves Kate	May 5th, 2008 01:55:47 PM
oh snap.
Dickblood by Abominable Snowcone	May 5th, 2008 02:13:55 PM
maybe "frumpy" was too harsh a word for me to use, for either Gyllenhaal or Holmes. But neither is my type, I guess, so it's hard for me to sympathize with Bruce Wayne's doting over Rachel. At least the other batman movies had Pfeiffer, Porizkova, Kidman, and Bassinger. Sigh...
Dickblood... by BiggusDickus	May 5th, 2008 02:24:45 PM
Margot Kidder every time. Kate Bosworth was too young and wholesome to play a jaded hack like Lois Lane. Kidder looks like she'd smoke half your cigs, drink half your Scotch, and then happily take it up the wrong 'un. Love ya, man, but you're calling this one wrong!
I Hope You Die... Elizabeth Banks by MattmanReturns	May 5th, 2008 02:29:56 PM
What about Elizabeth Banks as Betty Brant in all the Spider-Man movies? But for the most part, I agree with you. There is a definite lack of hotties in comic book movies, especially for lead female roles. And when they are hot, like Halle Berry as Storm, they're fucking boring. Can't we get a hot, insteresting lead? It shouldn't be that hard.
I don't want Elizabeth to die, btw by MattmanReturns	May 5th, 2008 02:32:05 PM
I just realized how that headline came off. Oops.
Biggus Dickus by Abominable Snowcone	May 5th, 2008 02:35:06 PM
I agree with your assessment of Kidder as Lois.
Katie Holmes has no soul. by Brians Life	May 5th, 2008 02:58:42 PM
...but then again, I don't believe anyone does. Anywho, I'd gladly take Maggie as Rachel for these two reasons... 1. She's a better actor than Holmes 2. She can show up on screen and NOT tilt her head or ugily smirk so her face looks like it's melting. Katie Holmes SUCKS...look for her in 10 years on the WB Dawson's Creek reunion and nothing in between.
I have a verry good fwend in Wooome named... by Brians Life	May 5th, 2008 03:00:31 PM
Biggus Dickus....that may be the BEST description of Kidder and Lane I've ever heard...and DEAD ON!
Heath being dead is besides the point by purplepurple	May 5th, 2008 03:04:26 PM
That looks like one hell of a perfomance.
DannyGlove r's Dickblood....DUDE... by Brians Life	May 5th, 2008 03:11:27 PM
...that is the BEST AICN talkback name I've seen yet. it's crude, disgusting and fucking hilarious. Here's hoping that one day it's the title of a Biopic.
Nobody calls him "The Glove" by ZoeFan	May 5th, 2008 03:21:20 PM
Atleast I hope not.
FIRST CONCEPT ART OF TWOFACE! HOLY SHIT!! by shagg187	May 5th, 2008 03:32:27 PM
http://www.comicbookresources. com/news/preview2.php?image=li tg/2008/0505/dent_tdk.jpg BADASS!
Batman Begins was the most boring... by poeticwarriorII	May 5th, 2008 03:47:35 PM
overrated piece of tepid shit I've seen in a long while. I'm glad most of you sit around patting yourself on the back because somehow liking it makes you more than you really are. I'm glad because that will be the only time in your worthless miserable pussyless lives you'll ever feel like you mean something. It feels really really good doesn't it? And Maggie G looks like Katie Holmes if by she looks like you mean if Katie Holmes got caught in the event horizon of a black hole and had everything pulled 6 inches out of place then yes she looks exactly like KH and the casting makes perfect since. I swear to God I saw Aaron Eckhart gag when he had to call her beautiful.
Quit apologizing! by the dolphins are in the jacuzzi	May 5th, 2008 03:48:14 PM
I’m tired of hearing Batman Begins fans come off in talkbacks as apologists, starting every post with, “Batman Begins had its flaws, but…” It feels like a Democratic convention. Every movie has its flaws. And any movie can be picked to death, especially in the age of blogging. Somewhere, some jagoff is posting, as we speak, that he didn’t like Casablanca because he thought they rushed the ending. I personally wasn’t crazy about the batmobile in BB (I kept expecting it to turn into Optimus Prime); but to me, that’s a minor quibble in an otherwise great movie. As for the latest, most off-the-wall criticism of Michael Caine’s “mockney” accent, let me advance a theory that, just as Hollywood actors and actresses of the 1930-60’s had bizarrely affected accents (nobody actually talked like Humphery Bogart), British actors and actresses of the time were equally affected, only in different ways. You essentially had two camps: the Shakespearian actors and the Dickensian actors (you can probably guess which camp Caine fell into). But to ignore his acting ability to focus on the unrealistic nature of his accent is to judge him pretty unfairly (not to mention throwing a pretty big baby out with a little bit of bathwater). And for those who would argue that his artifice is out of step with an otherwise gritty, realistic movie, that argument would be as short-sighted as criticizing Alec Guiness’s Obi Wan as too faux-Elizabethan in a movie where everyone else sounded like they were from Los Angeles. Honestly, a great performance in a great movie transcends such trivialities. As for Ledger, his Joker is the first film performance that actually creeps me into a state of unease, which is, in my opinion, exactly what the Joker should do (with all due respect to Nicholson’s and Romero’s more campy performances, both of which I liked). I really think the Nolan-haters should quit expecting this franchise to be a Burton-redux, and I think the fans of BB should quit apologizing for what they didn’t like and simply say, (say it with me now), “I thought Batman Begins was a great movie.” Period.
shagg187... by poeticwarriorII	May 5th, 2008 03:50:39 PM
That's pretty fucking bad if that's real or in any way what the character looks like in the film. That looks fucking stupid. Worse than that crack whore joker design actually.
shagg187 by erichaislar	May 5th, 2008 04:06:56 PM
Holy fuck! Man that is awesome!
I thought Batman Begins was a great movie. by strosmer	May 5th, 2008 04:28:09 PM
And The Dark Knight will be even better. No apologies.
OH NO IM ASHAMED by JKrow21	May 5th, 2008 05:18:09 PM
ALLAH
OH NO IM ASHAMED by JKrow21	May 5th, 2008 05:18:16 PM
ALLAH
DickBlood - try this one by finky089	May 5th, 2008 05:33:35 PM
http://tinyurl.com/4c4h83
Now that's a thing of "sick beauty" by finky089	May 5th, 2008 05:35:14 PM
Although it ain't really that purty. I'm sure it'll look better in the movie. This looks like a low-quality scan in flourescent lighting.
Dent! by Rodo	May 5th, 2008 06:03:17 PM
Dude, that line he says is the shit! "You either die the hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain." DEEEEP!
Begins apologists by MattmanReturns	May 5th, 2008 06:10:42 PM
It's one of the most critically acclaimed comic book films ever made. Why would anyone need to apologize for it? There's always haters, and most of them are on AICN... but they don't represent the movie going public. Snakes on a Plane proved that.
SPAWN!?!?!? by Rodo	May 5th, 2008 06:44:01 PM
LMAO! 32 Seconds into the trailer. Black Suit, Pink handkerchief...Michael Jae White! LMAO. Shittiest black actor ever.
THIS IS WHAT A REAL BLOCKBUTERS IT! BEST YEAR EVER! by Violator90	May 5th, 2008 07:13:05 PM
WHOLY SHIT! The Joker is going to RULE this year as THEE VILLAiN! The Joker has always been one of my favorite villains, and now it looks like he is finally going to be played as the pyschotic killer that I always wanted to see! Ledger's performance as the Joker feels like it will stand with the greats like Darth Vader(STAR WARS not that prequal shit) and Hannibal Lecter. Ledger took Nickalson's Joker as a fondation and just built a masterpiec on that! Oh but if that wasn't enough, we get to see glimpses of TWO-FACE! IRON MAN kicked shit off an now THE DARK KNIGHT will keep the geek orgasim going! CAN'T FUCKING WAIT!
poeticwarriorII by 5 by 5	May 5th, 2008 08:41:34 PM
There's nothing poetic about your stupidity. I dare say it hasn't even entered that tiny acorn you call a brain that I will be able to enjoy both Iron Man and Dark Knight. It might even further annoy you that I will enjoy both no matter how much money either of them make. And it will really tick you off because you (and all other haters) will be hating life, while I will be enjoying it watching the Dark Knight. Ahahahahahaha! You suck!
poeticwarrorII by sweettooth	May 5th, 2008 09:41:51 PM
Hi poeticwarriorII! I couldn't help but notice you happen to enjoy spending a lot of time here talking about howmuch you hate TDK. Actually- this goes out to all the Batman haters! =] A little general message for you all. When TDK comes out in all its greatness, I'll be SURE to save you all a slice of Humble Pie. Until then, I'm afraid... well... you may just have to continue eating shit. =\
Pick pick pick pick... by Marvinatmiddleage	May 5th, 2008 09:59:37 PM
Nit pick later. Remember that first and foremost movies only get made because the studios think they can make a buck off of them. Translation: somewhere along the line you're going to see something in the flick that will drive you insane. Try to balance out the whole. By the way, not that it has anything to do with the flick (I just want to see if people still care this far down), I nailed a stripper in her house on her living room floor recently. Top that Nolan and I'll love you forever. The trailer's getting you there. : : )
5 by 5... by poeticwarriorII	May 5th, 2008 10:30:54 PM
Actually I couldn't give a fuck all less about you or your cronies. If you died tomorrow in a fiery horrible car accident I wouldn't even bother clapping. You're just one more cunt, sniffing his own shit. In closing enjoy your shit movie you dripping diseased twat and the next time I want your opinion I'll jerk your chain and give it to you dipshit.
sweettooth... by poeticwarriorII	May 5th, 2008 10:36:57 PM
When hell freezes over I might be eating humble pie but you'll still be eating your bf's cock and smearing other peoples shit on your face. I understand your only source of self-esteem is this movie and that you're a pathetic fuck but honestly if that's all you've got to say the next time you're sitting there wondering if you should let your bf fuck you in the ass or post on AICN perhaps you should choose the former. You'd be far better off.
poeticwarriorII = Shit Stem by Mr. Nice Gaius	May 5th, 2008 10:40:17 PM
What a fucking loser.
PoeticwarriorII by sweettooth	May 5th, 2008 11:00:31 PM
What..? You're still eating shit, dude, don't talk with your mouth full! God, the table manners some people have!
LOL@POETIC by Rodo	May 6th, 2008 12:58:43 AM
What kind of douche comes onto a talk back to only insult the subject and call other people douches? And then on top of it all, he mentions other people's self esteem, when it is a common knowledge to anyone beyond 10th grade that outbursts and public demoralizing are both cries for attention and a reflection of poor self esteem. Then we roll into 11th grade where we learn about Freudian Penis Envy and how the basis for all men's self esteem lies in both their mother's treatment, and the size of their penis. From your vagrant bashing about, I'd say you have some seriously deep-seated issues that need to be dealt with. Or, you can take the easier road and committ suicide. I recommend the latter. The world has enough losers with low self esteem...go take care of that.
TOO SILVER! by ironic_name	May 6th, 2008 02:32:38 AM

AE la times interview. by djbry	May 6th, 2008 04:54:33 AM
A direct quote from the man behind harvey dent, confirms the 1:56 spoiler, dawson off the roof - "The difference between Batman and Two-Face is how far they are willing to go and how they make their point... Harvey Dent has an extremely strong sense of justice. His fiancée is killed. He's horribly injured. But he is still true to himself. He's a crime fighter, he's not killing good people. He's not a bad guy, not purely"
PoeticwarriorII, you're my new hero by just pillow talk	May 6th, 2008 06:36:18 AM
Though Queefer Bukkake will be sorely disappointed.
Fugly Maggie by Da B-Meister	May 6th, 2008 07:21:26 AM
Maggie's about as sexy as a bowl of diarrhea mixed with horse puke.
Will Batman have a device by Abominable Snowcone	May 6th, 2008 07:33:39 AM
that cures Bruces' / Bale's mild lisp? Sufferin' succatash, it's hard to get the bad guysh to take you sherioushly when you won't a-NUN-shee-ate!
Fuckin' poeticwarriorII by Al Swearengen	May 6th, 2008 08:59:10 AM
You know, with all this talk of smearing shit on people's faces, I've got a mind to think that cocksucker is into specialty acts. Considerin' that I'm always looking for new whores to grab ankle over at my joint, I'd like to hire him for some of the more lowly fecal type cocksuckers that enjoy demeaning his fuckin' kind in a defecating manner.
He's not worth Hero status by Lost Jarv	May 6th, 2008 09:25:29 AM
to begin with, he's stupid and secondly he hasn't generated any rage- unfocused or otherwise.
I don't know Jarv.... by just pillow talk	May 6th, 2008 10:17:00 AM
"If you died tomorrow in a fiery horrible car accident I wouldn't even bother clapping. You're just one more cunt, sniffing his own shit. In closing enjoy your shit movie you dripping diseased twat and the next time I want your opinion I'll jerk your chain and give it to you dipshit." and... "When hell freezes over I might be eating humble pie but you'll still be eating your bf's cock and smearing other peoples shit on your face." Though I guess he's just deranged. I apologize Q.
poeticWarrior needs to prove some consistency, but by finky089	May 6th, 2008 11:49:40 AM
lines like "If you died tomorrow in a fiery horrible car accident I wouldn't even bother clapping." are certainly going in the right direction. That's pretty damn funny.
Looks like the bored a$$holes took over by chewyou812	May 6th, 2008 12:58:56 PM
But I'll throw in my unappologetic love of the 1st film and my rabid anticipation of TDK. Ledger looks like his Joker will destroy and memory of Nicholson's. God Damn I can't wait to see this $hit! Haters can suck my giant brass balls!
Why are we talking about eating shit? by Smashing	May 6th, 2008 01:04:41 PM
Sweet Mary mother of God how did this happen? Gross, move on. The more I see TDK trailer the more excited I get, I think it is gonna be a hell of a sequel.
if you're not bored chewyou812... by just pillow talk	May 6th, 2008 01:05:16 PM
what's your excuse?
Al Swearengen... by poeticwarriorII	May 6th, 2008 05:07:02 PM
So let me see if I have this straight. You had a sneaky Uncle when you were a kid that used to drop a deuce on you, which, you loved by the way, and felt so miserable and guilty over it you turned off the cunt you were and decided to be some douche-bag that thinks he's Al? I understand that, self-loathing is a bitch, but making yourself out to be a steaming chunk of dog shit is not the direction you need to take. And speaking of grabbing ankles, how is your mom doing?
Mr. Nice Gaius=Anal Wart by poeticwarriorII	May 6th, 2008 05:11:42 PM
And being called a loser by someone that fucks retards while yelling the words to The Lemon Song is not something I consider to be an insult. Thanks for trying! You'll get there Ace just keep at it!
sweettooth... by poeticwarriorII	May 6th, 2008 05:17:25 PM
oh where the fuck to begin with this guy? OK, first off you need to get some originality. For instance me saying you eat shit and then you coming back with "no you eat shit" is not really considered an insult unless you're Forrest Gump or 10. I will give you props for trying to add the table manners part but all in all you need a little polishing. Come back and try again when you can give me something to work with or your nuts drop. Whichever comes first.
Rodo... by poeticwarriorII	May 6th, 2008 05:27:39 PM
I understand you just finished your first psychology class in college and all that, and I understand you might've even made a D+ in it, I applaud you. I'm also aware that you're probably an 18 year old pile of shit that thinks he knows more than he really does and that bases every comeback upon the "I know you are but what am I" principle. You're probably even a strung out crack whore that wanted so hard to fuck his mother that he had to sink himself into coke fueled stupors to escape the depths of his self-loathing and the fact that you are a putrid stupid fuck, just like your hero there. I understand that finding out about why you jack-off to those up-skirt photos you took of your mother when you were 5 makes you feel better but coming here and venting like some third-rate Frasier Crane is not what you need to do to move past eye-fucking your mother.
just pillow talk... by poeticwarriorII	May 6th, 2008 05:32:12 PM
Don't let Lost Jarv fool you. He's just a jealous little he-queef. Lost Jarv you dumbfuck, I'd leave your nose right where it is cunty, it's not good for you to stick it where it's not wanted.
Yes that joker is awful... by poeticwarriorII	May 6th, 2008 11:50:24 PM
he looks like a fucked up crack whore more than Joker. It's Nolans "grand" vision of him blowing someone for a dollar I guess.
Way to go, poeticwarriorII! by Mr. Nice Gaius	May 7th, 2008 10:15:08 AM
Epic Fail!!! How doooo you do it?!
I just don't get the single-minded hate by just pillow talk	May 7th, 2008 10:25:51 AM
that some posters have for Nolan. That's fine if you prefer Burton's Batman, but why the uncontrollable anger directed at Nolan and/or anyone who likes Batman Begins?
Mr. Nice Gaius... by poeticwarriorII	May 7th, 2008 11:00:29 AM
I've come to realize you're weak minded 12 year old comebacks are a waste of time. Let me know when you get some new material.
poeticwarriorII by Mr. Nice Gaius	May 7th, 2008 11:43:22 AM
Why is that, po? Because I don't threaten to fuck your nostrils or shit down your throat? You've got to grow up sometime, po. You'll realize that...one day...
TDK will struggle? WAKE UP! by DiamondJoe	May 16th, 2008 03:41:04 AM
What fucking planet are these ringpieces on who think that this film will struggle at the box office, or get raped by any other film this year? Consider - what do you get when you have a combination of a years worth of viral marketing, postive word of mouth, a truly great cast, a director at the top of his game, massive advance hype, and the death of one of the stars who, by all accounts, has delivered a performance that will freeze your piss? Answer: One Sure Thing at the box office. The only film that may pull in more wonga this year is Indy, and I'm even starting to doubt that, if the early reviews are correct.

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