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Indiana Jones & The Glorious Quicktime Trailer - Now in HD!

Hmm... by The Grug	May 3rd, 2008 09:32:09 AM
I feel like I should feel more excited about this one.
First????? by Hybrid16	May 3rd, 2008 09:32:14 AM
Yeahhhhhhhh.
2nd. by Hybrid16	May 3rd, 2008 09:33:42 AM
Nooooooooo.
3rd by Desmondo	May 3rd, 2008 09:34:29 AM

The trailer by Hybrid16	May 3rd, 2008 09:35:32 AM
looks good to me, and further proof that Ford is ALIVE. This and the last TV spot with his glad to help line makes me confident. For me thats what this film rests on - Fords ability to play the character as we remember him, rather than the Ford we know from Firewall, K-19 etc.
Its refreshing going into a big film like this... by Desmondo	May 3rd, 2008 09:37:14 AM
Knowing relatively little and not having seen every cool scene in it. I'm not mega hyped, just reasonably excited.
Looks fantastic... by JunoFallon	May 3rd, 2008 09:39:41 AM
Saw it with Iron Man last night (go see it, outstanding movie), and it was a much better cut than previous trailers and movie spots. Can't wait! :D
Zero expectations. That's what the Lucasfilm logo means to me by YackBacker	May 3rd, 2008 09:40:26 AM
Don't you get your hopes up, people. If nostalgia has a name, it's Lucasfilm Limited. I think its cool that they're giving Indy another go-around, but I'm not optimistic that it won't be silly. I mean, Marion, Mutt and Indy all riding along together on adventures? I sense a lack of balls already. Prove me wrong, guys.
Quite good! by NuteG	May 3rd, 2008 09:41:08 AM
I don't think the editing of the trailer is all that great...but it looks like an Indiana Jones movie, and it looks like it's going to be a lot of fun!
Looks weirdly lighted to me. by Buckys_Kick_Ass_Arm	May 3rd, 2008 09:47:14 AM
too bright or something
Definitely an improvement on the 1st trailer by waggy	May 3rd, 2008 09:49:48 AM
This one definitely got me more psyched up for late May. Though not having Iron Man to look forward to anymore probably factors in there too. Is it me or does this summer already own the shit out of last summer?
Funny, we haven't heard from the Indy bashers lately by DARTH VOODOO	May 3rd, 2008 09:59:27 AM
With every major publication predicting that Indy IV is going to rule the box office it seems all the Indy/Ford bashers have gone into hiding. I hope all the fanboys out there understand that even at 65 Harrison Ford would still kick their ass.
Now I'm stoked. by RedwingsHoolihan	May 3rd, 2008 09:59:54 AM
This trailer actually gave me goosebumps.
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Indy IV will be the 2008 box office champ. by DARTH VOODOO	May 3rd, 2008 10:00:11 AM
Anybody want to bet otherwise?
Indiana Jones by fassbinder79	May 3rd, 2008 10:02:29 AM
That trailer is half and half. Ford's delivery is kinda spotty, the action in certain shots looks cool and then in others it looks terrible and overall the timing seems off. Cate Blanchett also appears out of place. I don't buy her a a villain in this unless they are going completely for camp. Keep in mind that in every Indy film before this one there was a real sense of dread to the proceedings...That seems absent from this trailer. I will definitely see this in the theater because I am too curious...But I'm a bit worried when the most convincing acting in the trailer is coming from Shia Labeouf. They should have done an Indiana Jones film years ago. This is all about Spielberg trying to make a quick buck.
Jones does not exist in this dojo by Cobra--Kai	May 3rd, 2008 10:03:05 AM
Looks good... but not really good. All those shots of the temple rearranging itself with moving cogs and such like kind of reminds me a little too much of the TOMB RAIDER and ALIEN VS PREDATOR movies. Hopefully it'll all come together, with not only great stunts and visuals but an engaging storyline and character development too. Here's hoping!
Not going to break $200 million by Laserhead	May 3rd, 2008 10:04:19 AM
Just my prediction, just to get it on record.
How can you doubt.. . . by Rikrik_the_Wise	May 3rd, 2008 10:05:27 AM
that this won't be THE event movie this year. Lucas might have a bad track record with a couple of the prequels, but Spielberg is clearly in charge of this, and he's not going to let us down.
One look at this trailer... by Luvs269er	May 3rd, 2008 10:05:40 AM
... And I thought "He's back!" Hate on that for a while.
It's no Raiders, but.... by Sappers Forward	May 3rd, 2008 10:06:35 AM
it does look good. Nothing will ever out do Raiders. That was absolute perfection...back when there was still a kind of magic in Hollywood. I've seen Raiders about a million times. Yet, every time it's on T.V. I can sit and watch the entire movie and be completely entertained.
Laserhead by fassbinder79	May 3rd, 2008 10:07:18 AM
While I'm not that stoked about this trailer this movie is going to GOBS AND GOBS OF MOOLAH when it comes out. 400 million worldwide is my prediction. If the sequel to POTC can make over 300 mil then you better believe Indy is going to rake in tons of cash for all concerned. Its probably going to be a sizeable dissapointment as a film but it will have a tremendous box office profit. No question about it.
CGI-PANTS STRIKES BACK! by Bodenland Unbound	May 3rd, 2008 10:07:55 AM
Anyway, the trailer looks great!
it has an odd feeling to it by Lloyd Bonafide the Korean War Veteran	May 3rd, 2008 10:09:31 AM
Remember the trailers of old? Kind of like that, how they seemed to just show fairly random stuff.
Shocked by fassbinder79	May 3rd, 2008 10:09:53 AM
I can't believe how many of you on these boards could watch that trailer and think its going to amazing. That opening voice over Ford does sounded really off. But what should I expect from boards that constantly talk about how Spiderman 2 is the best comic book movie ever made.
And fassbinder79... by Luvs269er	May 3rd, 2008 10:13:38 AM
...Transformers (not Indy 4) was all about Spielberg making a quick buck. I hardly call an almost TWO DECADE development process "trying to make a quick buck"... Plus Spielberg has enough cash to collectively buy almost every person that visits this website... That's not to say the man won't ever direct or develop another film primarily because of it is commercial potential... I just don't think you can ascribe THAT particular cynical feeling to Indy 4.
I love the wild one homage by WeinerPenis	May 3rd, 2008 10:13:49 AM
and I also know for a fact that directly after this in the movie, spielberg shows why he is definitely NOT marlon brando. It's a setup for a joke, so calm down. I am excited, I have heard from somoene who has seen footage while doing some of the model explosions at ILM that the parts of the movie he saw were fantatic, that NO ONE has seen the locked movie, and that the rumors that the movie is underwhelming is bullshit by people who want to seem in the know (like what you think I am right now.) The only people who have seen parts of this movie are the animators and the score folks, and when you see CHUD or whoever saying they have people who have seen the movie, the people talking to them are utterly full of shit. With any luck, the footage the animators saw is indicative of the larger film.
Sappers Forward by fassbinder79	May 3rd, 2008 10:14:35 AM
Raiders is indeed a masterpiece. Possibly the greatest adventure film ever made. Doom is pretty juvenile (great when I was a kid) doesn't hold up now. Crusade is pretty tight with Indy's back and forth with his father and the grail stuff works a whole lot better than it should. But I sort of look at this new Indy trailer and it makes me think of the difference between Lethal Weapon 1 and LW 4. And there is a HUGE difference. Same characters we love...But more than a bit off and far too silly for its own good. Worth seeing for all us 80's nuts...Certainly. But its definitely going to have problems.
I don't think so... by Laserhead	May 3rd, 2008 10:15:31 AM
Worldwide B.O. is a different story ... I meant it won't break $200 million domestic. If this is in any way a mediocre movie, the fan base isn't enough to push it into the financial stratosphere, and today's kids could give a shit less about Indiana Jones-- they grew up inundated with stuff that swiped and expanded on the best things in movies like Raiders, rendering them into cliches in the process. I don't believe for a second that this will make the kind of money that either of the Pirates sequels pulled down. With Pirates, the youth demographic wanted to see Johnny Depp in his freaky-cool costumes, delivering that performance, with a ton of awesome special effects surrounding him. That attraction isn't there for Indy. After I saw 'Dead Man's Chest' on opening day, I predicted it would make $400 million domestic; and when I saw 'Superman Returns' I said it would stall just shy of $200 million. I don't have much faith in my predictions before I get a chance to actually see the movie, but nothing I've seen indicates that Indy IV is going to be this massive hit that all the old fans are hoping for. Nobody in the theater cheered this trailer when I saw Iron Man.
$400 million worldwide?! by Captain Katanga	May 3rd, 2008 10:16:27 AM
er, considering War Of The Worlds made, what, 550-600 million worldwide, I think it's safe to say Indy is looking at 600 minimum. As a side note, the older I get the more I'm starting to hate talkbackers. I'm starting to really hate the morons that actually bother to log in to say something like "I'm not that excited about this".. OH REALLY? FUCK, ALERT THE MEDIA, YOU'RE "NOT THAT STOKED", THANKYOU SO MUCH FOR ENLIGHTENING US. Cock.
Everything Lucas touches turns to shite by RandySavage	May 3rd, 2008 10:16:42 AM
Someone said it earlier: the timing just seems off, and the dialogue feels forced. I'm huge fan of the first 3 films, but I'm expecting this one to disappoint.
Sappers Forward. by MONKEY BUTT	May 3rd, 2008 10:18:02 AM
I totally agree. Raiders was just on TV here in Australia the other night. I had Raiders on VHS, then Laserdisc and now DVD, but I still couldn't resist a peek.
Luvs269er by fassbinder79	May 3rd, 2008 10:18:45 AM
I'll grant you that Transformers was another quick buck for Spielberg as well but so is this one. FYI - I work in the film industry and I can tell you for a fact that the reason Indy took so long to get off the ground had more to do with Lucas than Steven. GL (to his credit) after how badly Phantom Menace got panned wanted to be really careful about the script. He held up this production getting made. There were several drafts of the script that SS liked and the GL wouldn't greenlight. Shamalyan and Darabont's drafts come to mind. This was not a question of Spielberg wanting to make Indy is good as it could be...It was about Lucas not wanting to piss of the fans.
Katanga by Laserhead	May 3rd, 2008 10:18:51 AM
Why is it somehow better to log on and say "I'm excited about this" than to say "I'm not excited about this"? These forums exist to REGISTER YOUR OPINION, good and bad.
About time by Bono Luthor	May 3rd, 2008 10:20:33 AM
Thanks for catching up!
laserhead by Captain Katanga	May 3rd, 2008 10:24:13 AM
yeah you're right of course, but there just seems to be a certain kind of talkbacker these days who refuses to be impressed by ANYTHING, they are probably about 14 and on a mission to damn everything with faint praise at best. I think what it boils down to is that if someone ISN'T excited about a new Indy film, then I basically hate them with the burning intensity of a thousand suns.
Captain Katanga by fassbinder79	May 3rd, 2008 10:25:05 AM
Everyone has a right to their own opinion. I'm not going to insult you and call you a "cock" like you did to me...Just because we disagree. I thought this was an open board...Or is just supposed to be a marketing tool?
Bah! Speed Harry! by greenstyle92	May 3rd, 2008 10:25:09 AM
My eyes...
HELL F'N YEA!!!! by Underoos Hero	May 3rd, 2008 10:25:26 AM
Want to see now
Me slow..."Wild One" homage? by tylerzero	May 3rd, 2008 10:26:00 AM

This was in front of IRON MAN when we saw it on Thursday night.. by 433	May 3rd, 2008 10:27:02 AM
...and it got a really anemic reaction. From the people there to see a geeky action movie. Really sad. I certainly hope it'll be good, but I can't be certain.
Captain Katanga - PS by fassbinder79	May 3rd, 2008 10:28:18 AM
I would also add that one "event" movie I am extremely excited about this summer is Dark Knight. The trailers for that film and its marketing campaign make me feel Spielberg's films in the 80's made me feel.
Got it by Laserhead	May 3rd, 2008 10:30:40 AM
I agree about a certain type of talkbacker. I don't make a habit of criticizing stuff for the sake of trying to strike a pose. In some ways, I'm trying to figure out why I'm NOT more excited about this. You know, when I first learned of this movie, I was pumped. Of course I love the original trilogy, but the more I've seen and the more I've thought about it... my enthusiasm's waned. I'm not sure why. Maybe it's because every time I see Shia anywhere in the movie I shiver with disgust. Or maybe it's that none of the action scenes look that fresh, given the advances in special effects and the increased ambitions of action set-pieces in the two decades since 'Last Crusade.' It's just come to seem like things we've all seen before, and done better, when the actors were younger and didn't have to share the stage with so many side characters. I don't know what it is, really. I assure you I WANT to be excited, but the more they've shown, the less I am.
Anyone got a download that works? by Bono Luthor	May 3rd, 2008 10:30:51 AM

Perhaps part of the point of Mutt... by rev_skarekroe	May 3rd, 2008 10:31:38 AM
...is that he's not nearly as tough or cool as he thinks he is. He comes riding in acting like Brando and then gets constantly schooled by square old Indy. It's a thought.
fassbinder by Captain Katanga	May 3rd, 2008 10:32:02 AM
I was actually calling the fictional talkbacker in my head who is never impressed by anything a "cock"... or indeed the person that posted first on this thread. But either way I'm probably being a bit unfair, and exaggerating for comic effect!
433 by Laserhead	May 3rd, 2008 10:32:08 AM
Same thing happened at my theater. A packed house full of people stoked to see Iron Man-- should have been filled with Crystal Skull's target audience. But not a peep during or after the Indy trailer. Nobody cared.
Laserhead by fassbinder79	May 3rd, 2008 10:33:35 AM
And people have been going nuts for Dark Knight in the Iron Man screenings.
That's true by Laserhead	May 3rd, 2008 10:34:07 AM
and I'm one of them.
Katanga - Gotcha by fassbinder79	May 3rd, 2008 10:38:21 AM
My feeling is either way that the boards should in many respects be a way for fans/film buffs ect to let the studios know what there honest reactions are to the films they are putting out. If we're not honest about our opinions then they will keep putting out shit. That is not to say Indy will suck...It could wind up being a great film and I'll have to eat my words. But I strongly believe that it can be very helpful for the studios, filmmakers and people developing projects in the industry to know where the fans stand on these things. Movies nowadays are getting ridiculously expensive unfortunately while our soldiers in Iraq are dying without having the proper gear and armor. If a studio is going to spend some obscene amount of money (100 million dollars or more as is becoming common practice) then I want to see every fucking penny on screen!
the funny thing is I haven't watched any of the trailers by Captain Katanga	May 3rd, 2008 10:40:25 AM
I am such a rabid Indy fan (one with impressive willpower), that I'm not watching any of the trailers. I just want to sit down in the theatre, have the lights go down, and watch a new Indy film. I have no idea what the action is like. In broad terms, the reason I like Last Crusade the least (even though I still love it) is that it too often feels like an all out comedy. That's my biggest hope for this film, that its not a comedy. If its as good as Temple of Doom, I'll be happy. A friend of mine, who is just as Indy-obsessed as me, and feels the same way about the first three, emerged from this trailer very, very happy... so I'm crossing my fingers.
fassbinder79 by Underoos Hero	May 3rd, 2008 10:42:08 AM
I agree with some of the things on your earlier posta about the overal feel of the trailer. I saw all three of these movies in the theater when they came out and i will still break out one of them on dvd occasionaly. I understand everything Spielberg was trying to do here with the new installament but I know that underneath my anxiousness to see this there is a little reserve. The trailer is a bit flat and lacks a certain punch for some reason and I have a hard time seeing tweens or yung un's getting excited about this movie. At the same time I know it was made for the fans who were there. BUt I was there and I also having feelings of reserve about it. I'm hoping it rawks though.
Katanga by fassbinder79	May 3rd, 2008 10:42:25 AM
Fair enough. I applaud your willpower. I on the other hand am generally a sucker when it comes to trailers. I can't help but watch.
Hopefully Indy makes a wisecrack about Shia's clothes by Tacom	May 3rd, 2008 10:42:48 AM
...being a blatant ripoff of Marlon Brando's in the Wild One. Call him a poser or whatever the term for one back in the Fifties was.I loved the speed of the jungle chase and that they used actual film of the waterfall locations and didn't just CG it.
Also... by rev_skarekroe	May 3rd, 2008 10:43:42 AM
...the trailer looks a lot more exciting as a hi-def QT movie than the bootleg version from a couple of days ago. I'm seeing Iron Man tonight, so we'll see how it looks on the big screen then.
love it. by The Ghost of Marcus Brody	May 3rd, 2008 10:45:07 AM
me likes.
the little animations in the top left are going downhill by BMacSmith	May 3rd, 2008 10:45:36 AM
whats up with that?
How many of you haters have ever actually kissed a girl? by Bono Luthor	May 3rd, 2008 10:45:40 AM
Bet you love your elasticated wastebands.
You know, I love Temple of Doom by Laserhead	May 3rd, 2008 10:45:57 AM
it was something that grew on me over time, whereas Last Crusade has aged very badly for me. It's too much of a generational comedy, too cute... but I really like the darkness of Temple, even if it feels much less epic than the other installments, and even if Kate Capshaw has the most annoying role ever played by a woman anywhere.
Underoos Hero by fassbinder79	May 3rd, 2008 10:46:48 AM
We're in total agreement. I also hope its going to kick ass. As I said in one of my other posts...If these are the movies that are going to be made and pushed by the studios then they better be good. The last movie Spielberg made that I really enjoyed was Minority Report (even though one scene in that film was completely ripped off from LA Confidential - a film I absolutely love.)
Bono Luthor by Underoos Hero	May 3rd, 2008 10:47:17 AM
Nobody hatin' but you. Most everybody up in here is diggin' this shit. You dig?
If you're asking 'Bono Luthor' by Laserhead	May 3rd, 2008 10:47:27 AM
I have a smoking hot wife and a good job teaching at the University of Chicago. Perhaps these elements of successful adulthood are part of why I can't get excited over something that rehashes good movies from my youth, only with old people.
Laserhead by kwisatzhaderach	May 3rd, 2008 10:51:13 AM
You've obviously never seen any Keira Knightley 'films'.
Wait-- what does that mean? by Laserhead	May 3rd, 2008 10:52:08 AM

Oh, got it-- 'most annoying role ever played by a woman' by Laserhead	May 3rd, 2008 10:52:49 AM
but Keira's at least nice to look at. Capshaw isn't.
Laserhead by fassbinder79	May 3rd, 2008 10:52:56 AM
My problems with Doom are: Capshaw, the "short run" character is pretty racist (maybe I'm being too politically correct about it - but it bothers me whenever I watch it), the background/matte shots really look like ass for most of the film and while this might seem more than a bit unfair I prefer Young Sherlock Holmes' take on a similiar plotline (I know Doom came first YSH was a response to that) I just liked the way things were handled better in that film. The best thing about Doom for me is the best thing about Superman 3 (I can't believe I am actually saying something good about that film but its true) is when Indy goes bad. That still rules. Its just a flawed film for me. Crusade gets pretty silly but there is a lot more that works for as far as the Indy lore in that film than what is in Doom. Love Phoenix's performance as the young Indiana for example. Connery was perfect casting for his dad and the scenes in Italy with the rats are pretty strong in my mind. I also think the grail stuff at the end is surprisingly effective. I'll tell you one thing that definitely won't suck about the new Indy...KAREN ALLEN. Thank god she is in the new one.
fassbinder79 by Underoos Hero	May 3rd, 2008 10:54:00 AM
I enjoyed Minority Report. I wasn't sure about it at first but ended up liking it in the end. For me the most "fun" I've had watching a Spielberg flick was ...wait for it...the FIRST Jurasic Park. They all went to total shit after that. I appreciated War of the Worlds but didn't like it all and for me it never captured the awesome neivity of the original 50's one. So in the end I think he killed his movie casting the Scientoligist and over using the war chest of fx...not a good movie in the end (WW).
I really wish I was more excited about this. by AragornElfstone	May 3rd, 2008 10:56:43 AM
There are a few things that just make this not quite an Indy movie...Number one is how clean this movie feels. All of the green screen work is fine for a futuristic movie like Star Wars, but this is supposed to be based in reality, and using green screen for a lot of these action shots makes those shots look sterile. Also, what's up with the skull-faced zombie near the end of the trailer? Looks like a guy with a mask. Maybe it is. Maybe it's supposed to be. Who knows, but they should have left it out of the trailer. Didn't do anything to make it look like an old-school Indy adventure. I think those are the biggest things. I'm used to my Indy with more practical effects and less CGI.
Underoos Hero by fassbinder79	May 3rd, 2008 10:56:51 AM
WOTW blows dogs for quarters. The Mist was a far superior film to that one in my mind. Jurassic Park is awesome. Forgot that one and you're totally right. That was definitely the last great Spielberg summer movie. Schindler's List is a masterpiece and to this day I still give SS credit where credit is due on that one for making both films in the same year which is quite an achievement.
Temple of Doom just ROCKS by Captain Katanga	May 3rd, 2008 11:00:22 AM
Spielberg was absolutely firing on all cylinders as a director with that film. Think about that shot with the kids in chains, then Indy appears out of the shadows in probably the most heroic shot of the trilogy, then you hear the punching sounds off camera and then that baddie's body sliding into frame. Brilliant. For all its flaws, wonderful film. I even love "chilled monkey brains".
fassbinder79 by Underoos Hero	May 3rd, 2008 11:00:23 AM
Schindler's was good although I prefered The Pianist. Adrian Brody did a great job and I really like the movies perspective on the Holocaust. It fealt like a living documentary to me and I came away with even more compassion for those people. As far as the Mist I have not seen that yet.
I wish you were more exited too. Guess you lost your cool by Stormwatcher	May 3rd, 2008 11:02:02 AM
Cuz Indy is awesome. And this looks pretty solid and I would hope that reviewers rewatch the original trilogy before reviewing so they don't sound like ass monkeys when they complain about things that fit with the series. Like when they focused on bad acting and dialogue in the Prequels they sucked for reasons beyond acting.
Underoos Hero by fassbinder79	May 3rd, 2008 11:03:38 AM
The Mist was one of my top three films of this past year: 1. There Will Be Blood (perfection) 2. Eastern Promises (one of Cronenberg's best) 3. The Mist (got everything right that WOTW got wrong - in my opinion) Dare I say it...I have still never seen The Pianist. Kind of embarrasing actually.
L.A. Confidential and WOTW by Captain Katanga	May 3rd, 2008 11:03:41 AM
L.A.Confidential is one of my favourite films of all time. WOTW had the potential for greatness but was missing a climax. They blew their load with the attack at the beginning of the film, which was amazing. Whether it was down to time constraints of budget constraints, they left nothing for the climax, and everyone felt very let down.
Dear Spielberg by runfoodrun	May 3rd, 2008 11:04:05 AM
Please make more Indy films, Love, everyone
Doom kicks the shit out of Crusade by kwisatzhaderach	May 3rd, 2008 11:04:52 AM
Whether you like Willie and Short Round or not, Doom is far superior filmmaking. Crusade is lazy filmmaking from Spielberg, who was on a downer after the failure of Empire of the Sun. Ford doesn't even seem like Jones in the film, he's just a stooge for Connery's lame schtick. The visual FX work is terrible (due to Dennis Muren not being involved) and the action sequences are lame - the desert tank sequence is a lazy rip-off of the perfectly mounted and edited truck chase from Raiders. Denholm Elliot's serious character from Raiders has been turned into a comedy sidekick, as has Sallah. Last crusade is a big drop off in quality from Ark and Doom, two films that were made when Spielberg was still hungry and ambitious. It will be interesting to see how Skull turns out.
The Last Crusade Arguably better than Temple by Underoos Hero	May 3rd, 2008 11:06:30 AM
Temple was Temple. I remember loving the shit out of it. I was so so with Crusade when it came out. But ofcourse now that we're older, Crusade seems to be the one I reach for when I go back to watch any of these movies. SS and everyone involved on Indy had grown into their skin and it was more adult but never lost it's charm and excitement which was comparable to Raiders, but in a different way.
that's exactly how I feel about Crusade by Laserhead	May 3rd, 2008 11:06:40 AM
now I can stop posting and actually get back to work.
Laserhead: How smoking and how good? Cuz university jobs don't e by Stormwatcher	May 3rd, 2008 11:06:43 AM
Now running Casino business, that does. Boom. And I do. And no, there are no accurate Casino movies. Only the first part of Casino where they explain that everyone has a boss. And Las Vegas is an ass backwards tv show. Except for the surveillance equipment, believe it or not, that shit is real, not Oceans 13 bullshit AI computer crap but retinal and all, that real. Tangent there.
I mean what kwisatzhaderach said by Laserhead	May 3rd, 2008 11:07:39 AM
dag, posts are appearing fast
Moriarty is a bit of a dick for hating on Temple. by Stormwatcher	May 3rd, 2008 11:09:25 AM
And Batman (Burton) Its like bitching when you get a free car from Oprah and having to pay taxes on it. Temple is my most vivid early movie experience followed by Back to the Future and Return of the Jedi. All quality. Course I was under 10 for all of it.
fassbinder79 by Underoos Hero	May 3rd, 2008 11:09:51 AM
Grab the Pianist. Great movie. I've yet to see There will be Blood but I am dying to see it. I would have to say though that my favorite movie in years was ....wait for it...310: To Yuma. Goddamn that movie kicked ass. Totaly unexpected. I grew up on Clint Eastwoods Spaghetti and I never thought anyone could achieve that level of cowboy perfection, but for fucks sake they hammered it home. The characters kickeds ass, the plot, and the constant tension was incredible.
Stormwatcher by fassbinder79	May 3rd, 2008 11:10:54 AM
Going after someone for being proud and happy being married to their wife (as am I as well) and then proceeding to belittle their job is more than a little weak.
That rocked! by Col. Tigh-Fighter	May 3rd, 2008 11:10:56 AM
This good be very good! Fingers crossed
university jobs don't what? by Laserhead	May 3rd, 2008 11:11:02 AM
I'm required to actually 'work' about nine hours a week and get paid in the high five figures. I don't need more money than that. As for my wife... um, really hot? She looks almost exactly like Ali MacGraw circa 1968. And speaks five languages. So there.
Fassbinder by sambrook	May 3rd, 2008 11:11:31 AM
If you "worked in the film industry" (one of the most overused lies on forums like this, so you'll excuse my cynicism at your claim) you'd know that $400 million worldwide is a stupid estimate (and Pirates 2 didn't make $300 million worldwide, it made over a billion). You'd also spin us insider knowledge that wasn't just regurgitated facts we all know from interviews and from watching the progress on this. Besides, Shamalyan didn't get to write a draft. Sorry, but if there's one thing I hate on these boards it's people throwing an "I work in the industry" into their posts to try and add weight to their opinions.
thanks, fassbinder by Laserhead	May 3rd, 2008 11:11:45 AM
Everybody had been being so civil, too. I was so proud of us all.
Sambrook by fassbinder79	May 3rd, 2008 11:14:28 AM
Believe what you want to believe.
If you didn't know that was a Brando homage.... by Playkins	May 3rd, 2008 11:15:38 AM
You don't deserve to call yourself a film fan. It's about more than movies within the last 30 years.
Just hope there are some surprises here. by Jawa 007	May 3rd, 2008 11:17:02 AM
I feel like I know everything that's gonna happen.
Laserhead by Underoos Hero	May 3rd, 2008 11:17:50 AM
It did get weird in here didn't it? Noone was bitching and shit. Now we have a few that are. I'm the biggest offender when comes to bitching but ONLY when it concerns "certain" unsaid movies. ahaha. I will not name them here becuase it will send this talkback right into the toilet.
In all fairness.... by Herb West	May 3rd, 2008 11:19:30 AM
this is one of those trailers that seem better when it's on the big screen. The newest Hulk trailer seemed to be too, and that surprised me.
Herb West by Underoos Hero	May 3rd, 2008 11:20:33 AM
Sup Herb?
FYI: Trailer is censored by Roderich	May 3rd, 2008 11:21:06 AM
The international version of this trailer, which is shown before Iron Man has the guns pointed at Indy and the other guy. It's the same change as in the lousy teaser. Poor american sissies are not allowed to see people with guns pointed at them. But the death sentence via poison-injection is fine...
Sup by Herb West	May 3rd, 2008 11:21:44 AM

WTF is that on Shitey The Beef's face? by photoboy	May 3rd, 2008 11:23:15 AM
It looks like he's put shoe polish on his face to pretend he's got some stubble. I was quite excited to see KOTCS but the more I see of Shitey in this film the more I'm put off. I can't believe they're talking about making him the star of any Indy sequels. Also, is it me or does Indy pull Marion in front of him to shield himself from the giant piece of rubble heading for their truck? And why couldn't he have grabbed Shitey instead?
Not a good trailer by messi	May 3rd, 2008 11:23:35 AM
which makes no sense since Lucasfilm produce the greatest trailers ever. Just no reaction in my theatre with Iron man compared to The Dark Knight where you could hear the jaws drop.
Yeah by Laserhead	May 3rd, 2008 11:25:40 AM
Why is it that a talkback that consists of people civilly sharing their opinions and love of a medium gets side-tracked by other people tossing personal insults-- "If you don't agree with me obviously you're a shit-sucking fuckface who lives in his mother's basement" --even this Roderich guy can't point out something about the trailer without calling Americans sissies. Shame.
Stormwatcher. No he ain't. by TomBodet	May 3rd, 2008 11:26:24 AM
that's the least of the three. Period.
Hmm by Dwide Shrewd	May 3rd, 2008 11:26:38 AM
The crowd went nuts for this at the Iron Man showing I was at last night... Equal to the reaction to the TDK trailer. I think it looks great. Just as long as it doesn't slip into the "Lethal Weapon 4" trap of self-referential humor and winking at the camera. There will be countless fanboys who piss and moan about it, but fuck them.
SHUT UP AND WATCH by LORDRANDO	May 3rd, 2008 11:33:35 AM
As soon as you hater-geeks realize some cats know how to do this and some dont youll be better. For the last time, without Lucas and Spielberg this nerd empire you all wallow in would not exist. Credit where credit is due, sit back and ENJOY a film which is meant to entertain not change the fucking world. Nothing else will come close. SO SEE YOU IN HELL LAO CHE!
PS SIgns you need a girlfriend by LORDRANDO	May 3rd, 2008 11:36:39 AM
You hate george lucas for "ruining" star wars you criticize the acting in a jones flick...(supposed to be camp, isnt it?) your still mad about phantom menace. to those who think the lucasfilm logo means mediocre...its still in front of a new hope, empire and jedi is it not? and the original jones. go watch iron man loser. keep comics to comics and leave cinema to the pros.
Captain Katanga Huh? War of the worlds was a massive destruction by messi	May 3rd, 2008 11:36:50 AM
how can you say because that made 600 million, that this will make 600 mil. that's ludicrous.
LASERHEAD by LORDRANDO	May 3rd, 2008 11:38:04 AM
Is this all you do? you are on here like 24 fucking 7. Thats all. your most likely a good guy, into films, etc. but diversify your life my friend.
I'm on here 24/7? by Laserhead	May 3rd, 2008 11:41:44 AM
What the hell are you talking about? I'm not much of a presence here at all. A couple talkbacks I get into because, sitting at a desk with a blank page in front of you, it's an easy way to avoid work. But please, more personal insults from someone who doesn't know me or anything about my life. How is it, by the way, that you think you're able to monitor my presence here when you're so busy diversifying your life?
Lordrando by Laserhead	May 3rd, 2008 11:51:10 AM
Actually, looking back up through the posts, it appears YOU are someone who 'takes this shit way too seriously,' i.e., can't countenance any opinions that are contrary to your own. Get a girlfriend, my friend.
Saw Iron Man Thursday... by Freaky_Zeke	May 3rd, 2008 11:51:55 AM
and people just laughed at the Indiana Jones trailer. I felt so bad for everyone involved (besides Shia). Even my buddy and I had to laugh at "the crystal skull made out of solid gold." I want to like this, but they're making it difficult.
Oh, and... by Freaky_Zeke	May 3rd, 2008 11:54:28 AM
assholes ruined the Dark Knight trailer by shouting Heath-Ledger-is-dead jokes throughout the entire thing. Couldn't hear half the trailer. Fucking assholes, man. Even if he wasn't dead, shut your damn holes.
It is amazing.. by Herb West	May 3rd, 2008 11:57:20 AM
that at every Indy talkback, we have someone who brings up the Phantom Menace. I'm not kidding, it happens at least once in every single one.
Young Indy?? by Mr.Stabs	May 3rd, 2008 12:02:49 PM
Isn't that Sean Patrick Flanery towards the end of the traler, just before the 4 columns come together?.
messi by Captain Katanga	May 3rd, 2008 12:06:10 PM
why is it ludicrous? War Of The Worlds was a Spielberg blockbuster that had fairly average word of mouth, and yet still went on to make 600 million globally. Indy is far more beloved around the world, and its a Spielberg blockbuster, ideal for all ages and demographics... why exactly don't you think its capable of making more than say I Am legend (584 million globally) or Troy (!) (500 million globally. Was it you that predicted 400 million globally? Thats what The Mummy and MI:3 made! Indy has way, way more global appeal.
"Crystal Skull made out of solid gold" by zacdilone	May 3rd, 2008 12:08:05 PM
If you're going to criticize a line of dialogue, make sure you quote it correctly. I want to listen to you, but you're making it difficult.
Anyone have... by Herb West	May 3rd, 2008 12:11:03 PM
a You Tube link yet?
Playing The Fassbinder Card by Mako	May 3rd, 2008 12:12:12 PM
I work in the industry too. I've had the fortunate experience to work with some of the people on the new Indy film. And what a "professional" WOULD SAY IS... "Wait for the movie to come out before you judge it". Cynicism is the bi-product of arrogance. I do believe that Fassbinder wants KOTCS to be good. Fassbinder... I agree with most of your points. I just hope you can go to Indy IV with an open mind and enjoy it for the amusement park ride it's meant to be. When you start bringing up comments about Short-Round being anti-PC... I have to shake my head and figure you can't enjoy movies these days without letting your own subjective & personal filters get in the way.
IT'S THE CITY THAT'S MADE OF GOLD by Monkey Butler	May 3rd, 2008 12:14:18 PM
Anyone who didn't pick that up wasn't listening.
HOLY FUCKING SHIT! I GOT GOOSEBUMPS! by HarryBlackPotter	May 3rd, 2008 12:16:52 PM
This movie will OWN ALL OF US...FOREVER. Bring it on!
PREQUEL HATERS by la_sith	May 3rd, 2008 12:18:12 PM
Fucking GET OVER IT ALREADY.
Cynicism is the bi-product of arrogance. by Herb West	May 3rd, 2008 12:20:58 PM
That's not true. It's Lucas who has made us cynical. I wasn't trying to be funny above. There are many people who can't even hear the word LucasFilm without being disgusted.
433 and Laserhead by slone13	May 3rd, 2008 12:21:34 PM
I'm curious as to where you both live. The Crystal Skull trailer got a standing ovation last night at the Ziegfeld theater here in Manhattan. That's something I've never seen before in my 35 years of attending movies. 1000+ people applauding a trailer?? Hardly anemic. Maybe the real Indy fans are in New York City?
This will not be the biggest movie of the summer by Freakemovie	May 3rd, 2008 12:23:08 PM
Just saying. I'm really looking forward to it, but at the box office I could easily see Iron Man, Dark Knight, Hancock, and possibly Wall-E outpacing it. Most likely Dark Knight. They're all easily above $200 mil though.
HarryBlackPotter by just pillow talk	May 3rd, 2008 12:23:30 PM
It's even better on the big screen. After seeing the trailer before Iron Man, I have no doubts. Bring on Indy!
by Mr. Mcpoops	May 3rd, 2008 12:23:49 PM

Were is all of the Shia hate? by Mr. Mcpoops	May 3rd, 2008 12:25:51 PM
I can't live without it. And this movie will kick ass and Shia isn't that bad. And sorry about that last post.
The trailer was good.... by Herb West	May 3rd, 2008 12:26:14 PM
but I think we all know that any movie can look good as a trailer if it's edited in the right way.
stop underestimating indy's appeal! by Captain Katanga	May 3rd, 2008 12:26:39 PM
Indy will beat Iron Man, Hancock and Dark Knight at the box office. You might be right about Wall-E though, that could be a bit of a phenomenon. The only thing that will reduce Indy's impact is if it turns out to be a terrible film, which is unlikely.
slone13 by Captain Katanga	May 3rd, 2008 12:27:43 PM
I'm LOVING that story about the reaction at the Ziegfield, thats great to hear!
I just watched it. and GODDAMN YES by Mr. Mcpoops	May 3rd, 2008 12:28:45 PM
I was right. This movie will kick ass.
How about that You Tube link? by Herb West	May 3rd, 2008 12:35:45 PM
Come on, it's been over 10 minutes. It has to be on You Tube by now. Someone here has to know. Fuck that browser slaying Quicktime.
slone by Laserhead	May 3rd, 2008 12:48:15 PM
I live in Chicago and saw Iron Man at AMC River East. Like I've said, I'm wondering why I'm not more excited, as I love the original movies and remember them as touchstones of my childhood. But so far, I just don't feel it, and it seemed like the crowd's non-reaction to the trailer echoed my own. I hope the movie is fantastic and does really well. I'm just observing what seems to be a lack of large-scale interest. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. We'll see in a couple weeks.
Now that's a trailer done right. by rbatty024	May 3rd, 2008 12:57:44 PM
I've already been won over, but if that doesn't do it for you then nothing will. Kudos for mentioning the Wild One. A film also alluded to in The Simpsons (the episode where Bart becomes the hall monitor and Lisa the rebel, and when Skinner asks her what she's rebelling against she replies, "what have ya' got). It was a real treat to see this before Iron Man.
Shared grosses by warsinthesun	May 3rd, 2008 12:58:12 PM
Speed Racer next week. Then Narnia. Then Indy. Kung Fu Panda. The Happening. Hulk. Wall-E. Hancock. Hellboy II. Dark Knight. Seriously, how much cash do you think the american public can shell out?? I see a lot of split grosses this summer.
Back in the day... by rbatty024	May 3rd, 2008 01:01:34 PM
I remember going to the theater every weekend during the summer. Now it's more like once a month, if that. I think that warsinthesun has a point, but if the films are good enough people will go.
Showing before Iron Man by Orionsangels	May 3rd, 2008 01:05:33 PM

Mutt by WeinerPenis	May 3rd, 2008 01:07:10 PM
is not cool. Fuck it, okay. I don/'t know any spoilers but if I did...he thinks he is cool. He's a badass within his little world, but that all ends when he is at, oh say, school. But Mutt essentially is a talkbacker. His attitude is that Indy is old and useless, he's skeptical of indy at every turn early on. He is literally the voice of Ford's detractors, which is sort of clever only because it blatantly gives Ford chances to show his stuff instead of quietly not addressing it like I thought they would. Indy saves them several times, earns Mutt's respect, gets a little cocky, and screws up, being saved by Mutt, and the one upmanship begins. Each gets a moment to shine. It's literally the same dynamic from Last Crusade. Ultimately they realize they are a great team -- along with someone else, although anyone wanting them to get married or wrap anything up will be sorely dissapointed. I'm guessing.
Herb West by Mako	May 3rd, 2008 01:11:15 PM
You claim Lucas made "us" cynical. Well... you really can't lump me in there cause I'm not cynical of Lucas. He didn't make me cynical. No one person can make someone else cynical. It's a human behavior that stems from the way people react to life in general. I may have thought Lucas could have done a better job directing and writing the prequels... but it wasn't the end of the world for me. It was his movie. He did what he wanted to do. It's not yours or mine. I move on. I still enjoy all of the Star Wars movies for what they are. Movies. Escapism. Nothing more. Nothing less. And yes... I liked the original trilogy over the prequels. I'm not negative about the future. People cast judgement on something they've never even seen. That's being cynical. Assuming you already know what the outcome is and that you are a better critic then the general population. That's arrogance.
Mutt is not cool. by Herb West	May 3rd, 2008 01:13:39 PM
No, he's not. Little suburb Shia will never be accused of being cool.
Looks like a fucking Lara Croft movie by ebolamonkey	May 3rd, 2008 01:13:45 PM
Way too clean, no grit or atmosphere. Makes every shot look like a set or a CG effect. I would say this about very few film characters, but I don't just want to WATCH Indiana Jones - I want to BELIEVE in Indiana Jones. I don't buy anything in this trailer.
Laserhead by slone13	May 3rd, 2008 01:16:44 PM
Interesting. It's weird, because it seems to be the exact opposite here. What is surprising me is that I've been observing what seems to be a lack of large-scale interest in Dark Knight here in The Big Apple. As a huge Batman fan as well, I am extremely excited for both flicks, but the seeming lack of interest that many friends and co-workers seem to have for the next installation in the Batman franchise seems especially odd to me.
"too clean, no grit..." BLAH BLAH BLAH by TheMcflyFarm	May 3rd, 2008 01:24:58 PM
Same shit people say about every sequel to an 80's movie. Stop pretending that the older quality picture of 80's movies is grit. Don't be an idiot.
McflyFarm by ebolamonkey	May 3rd, 2008 01:34:25 PM
I won't be, but you go right ahead.
ebolamonkey has a point... by warsinthesun	May 3rd, 2008 01:46:40 PM
Most movies these days do one helluva job 'not' convincing you that these places really exist. I take exception with Spielberg though. He delivers. You'll see.
AWESOME!!! by Seth Balmore	May 3rd, 2008 01:47:38 PM
...the Trailer took a little while to load but it was totally forth it!! XD
Dead silence in out theater when this trailer played by AllPowerfulWizardOfOz	May 3rd, 2008 01:52:34 PM
Last night sold out show at Muvico in Hanover, MD. 9p showing of Iron Man. Reactions to every trailer except this one. Total silence except for one groan from a male sitting a few rows back when Shia popped up. I think the new Indy movie is going to under perform and be a total turd. It looks like a total turd. Smells like a total turd. Therefore it must indeed be a turd.
I want the russians to win by ironic_name	May 3rd, 2008 01:54:05 PM

Saw it in front of IronMan.... by JayWells87	May 3rd, 2008 01:55:11 PM
...everyone was silent during the whole thing. No response. When a trailer for "The Love Guru" gets more audience anticipation and whispers of "we should see that" etc, I don't think this movie has high hopes BO wise.
FUCK I hate this site sometimes "Our theater" by AllPowerfulWizardOfOz	May 3rd, 2008 01:55:28 PM
OUR OUR OUR OUR OUR OUR. Please get a goddamn edit button like most sites have.
YOUR theater was filled with retards by MattmanReturns	May 3rd, 2008 02:01:05 PM
Mine cheered for Indy and Dark Knight. Mild laughter for Love Guru and no response for Spirit.
You have to be dead inside not to have a hard on for this by I Dunno	May 3rd, 2008 02:06:18 PM
...well I'm not going to go into Harry's level of anatomical descriptiveness but that applies to female fans, What exactly more do you want? Ford looks great. He's running, jumping, swinging, beating ass. There's a hot ass dominatrix villainess, MARION FUCKING RAVENWOOD is back. What the fuck do you people want? I'm starting to sound like a plant or a shill for Paramount but really, this is the one place I thought I could go on the internet where I could talk to people who were excited about this. Indiana FUCKING Jones, you assholes! Yes, there is some CGI, God forbid they advance the technology 20 years so it doesn't look exactly like it did in 1981. What do you have to look forward to in the way of movies after this? The fucking Hobbit? Give me a fucking break. This is movie history, you assholes and anyone over the age of 25 should understand that and not bitch about how the pixels in frame 345 of the 3rd scene look. Goddammit I expected more from you people.
Yeah, let's compare Shia Labeouf to Marlon Brando by IndustryKiller!	May 3rd, 2008 02:08:43 PM
That won't alienate everyone.
I ,Dunno. by The True Priapic	May 3rd, 2008 02:09:22 PM

its like oj dating your daughter by ironic_name	May 3rd, 2008 02:09:37 PM
having indy is cool, but shia the beef? it makes me uncomfortable for a reason it don't know.
sorry ,for some reason AICN fucked up an dnot me.A First? by The True Priapic	May 3rd, 2008 02:10:26 PM

Its done it again... by The True Priapic	May 3rd, 2008 02:12:46 PM
sorry,every so sorry.But I Dunno ....I have been coming here sincde 1998 and I have been misspelling and swearing all over the place but I absolutely agree with what you just said(typed)
It's good to see at least some healthy skepticism by IndustryKiller!	May 3rd, 2008 02:14:47 PM
And I know it will end when the movie comes out and everyone bends over backwards to excuse every problem only to talk about how mediocre it really is once the dust settles six months later. but for now I'm enjoying it. BTW I don't really think you can argue that this is a great trailer. I think you would have to say that Lucasfilm is just showing us the same slightly uninteresting stuff to keep us in the dark. I hope that's the case.
"Indiana FUCKING Jones, you assholes!" by DocPazuzu	May 3rd, 2008 02:20:06 PM
Preach it, brother!
Anyone else not enthused about HD... by jollysleeve	May 3rd, 2008 02:21:08 PM
I know I'm pretty much the only person who feels this way, but whenever I see examples of HD programming or HD trailers (note, I don't actually have an HD set), it always seems so unbelievably artificial, sterile, unnatural and processed to me. Not necessarily "more detailed," just louder and more garish. Am I the only one who has negative feelings toward the initials "HD?" It just sort of feels like the death of this storytelling medium I've loved my whole life. I realize most people love anything associated with HD. Am I the only one who feels the opposite?
The reason there is silence in some theaters... by wackybantha	May 3rd, 2008 02:24:54 PM
...is that the trailer is sooo awesome that the audience has been stunned speechless...and applaudless. INDY 4 WILL BE GREAT!!!
If the movie is a box office disappointment... by wackybantha	May 3rd, 2008 02:26:41 PM
...it won't matter so long as the movie is great. Screw the box office. If you don't want to see it, I don't care as long as I get to see it multiple times.
Why bitch about the Brando homage? by leobloom	May 3rd, 2008 02:27:47 PM
The rolling boulder scene from Raiders was based on a Scrooge McDuck comic book. Homage thy name is Indiana Jones.
slone13 by fassbinder79	May 3rd, 2008 02:28:40 PM
I live in NY too and I don't know a single person who isn't going apeshit to see Dark Knight.
Fassbinder sucks by CuervoJones	May 3rd, 2008 02:31:26 PM
I mean the director. Lame movies for snob homos.
The Lighting Does Look Wierd by hechtal	May 3rd, 2008 02:33:04 PM
There's no proper shadows going on, it looks way more cartooney than the originals.
Saw it before Iron Man yesterday... by rainbowtrout1265	May 3rd, 2008 02:33:21 PM
And the reaction was total silence. No enthusiams, no talking, no nothing. TDK got some cheers. Prince Caspian got some cheers. That Adam Sandler movie got some cheers and even Love Guru, which looks looks beyond awful, got some applause. Indy got nothing. Maybe the trailers are poorly cut or something, but there isn't much enthusiasm being built, imo.
The problem with the Brando homage leo by IndustryKiller!	May 3rd, 2008 02:35:14 PM
Is that comparing SHia Labeof, an actor people are akeptical, to Marlon brando, the greatest and arguably coolest screen actor of all time, is just compeltely and utterly ridiculous and only serves to exaggerate the fears that people have been having that he was miscast. If they wanted a Brando type they really could not have gone further in the other direction. Look Labeouf might be great in the role he plays, but it certainly won't be a Brando type character because frankly that's just out of his range.
Stormwatcher And Fassbinder by TheRealMoriarty	May 3rd, 2008 02:36:55 PM
I don't hate TEMPLE OF DOOM. I reserve my hate for LAST CRUSADE, which is lazy and sloppy and a betrayal of any affection I have for RAIDERS. TEMPLE is uneven, but at least it does its own thing and it's a pretty potent nightmare machine. And Fassbinder, M. Night Shyamalan never wrote one word of an INDIANA JONES script. Ever. His ego wouldn't let him work on a film where he didn't have complete control. If you claim he wrote a draft of this, you're absolutely 100% wrong.
that got me hyped by kungfuhustler84	May 3rd, 2008 02:37:06 PM
Harrison Ford looks old as fuck, and Shia could never carry a film on those scrawny shoulders of his, but I don't care. Bring on Indy 4 and the commie killing, zombie busting, cate blanchett donkey punching action! Woo!
legend has it by LarryTheCableGuy	May 3rd, 2008 02:38:22 PM
it wasa written by the dark ones...
jollysleeve... by poeticwarriorII	May 3rd, 2008 02:39:21 PM
buy a new goddamn TV you cheap bastard. And I'm going on record as saying Iron Man will gross more than this movie will. As a poster said earlier the response to the trailer was anemic bordering on laughable. I heard a few groans when Shia LeShitastic flashed on screen with that idiotic ode to Marlon Brando. Jesus, is Speilberg and Lucas fucking 12?
TheRealMoriarity by fassbinder79	May 3rd, 2008 02:45:03 PM
Look, if I was wrong about Shyamalan I was wrong about Shyamalan. It was probably another writer. I learned this from a very good friend of mine who works for Lucasfilm. Was he not telling me the truth about Darabont's draft either? Whether you believe me or not doesn't really matter. I stand by what I said. I have complete faith in what I was told. I respect what it you guys are doing here with site and its a bummer to have my credibility attacked for voicing my honest opinion. What purpose would I have exactly for making it up?
Fair enough... by jollysleeve	May 3rd, 2008 02:47:30 PM
poetic warrior. I really wasn't expecting a more thoughtful response on AICN than that. All I know is that NBC's "hi def" lineup looks absolutely preposterous, including the newest episodes of the Law & Order franchise which appear to have less gravitas and weight than a Power Rangers episode from the 90's.
CuervoJones by fassbinder79	May 3rd, 2008 02:48:02 PM
"Lame movies for snob homos." Uh-what? Have you ever seen Berlin Alexanderplatz? And if you have and you're still calling it "a lame movie for a snob homo" then I have absolutely nothing to say that.
warsinthesun by warsinthesun	May 3rd, 2008 02:50:22 PM
Jesus christ, groans?! Were there talkbackers in the audience? Must have been. I didn't hear reaction in our packed auditorium to anything BUT Jones and Dark Knight. Jones was the last trailer and everyone sounde excited after it.
I was just hackin' on ya jollysleeve... by poeticwarriorII	May 3rd, 2008 02:51:28 PM
but honestly, buy a new TV. It can't get much more thoughtful than that because you don't know what you're fucking missing on a shitty standard def TV. Watching HD on a tv that isn't HD is what's preposterous. And buy a fucking blu-ray player while your at it.
kwisatzhaderach by codymr	May 3rd, 2008 02:54:49 PM
I agree with you... I did enjoy Crusade, however, everything you pointed out brings back my initial reaction when seeing it in theatres when I was 12. In my opinion, Indy films are always a lot of fun, but Raiders is by far the best in the series... Interestingly, every girlfriend I have every had has preferred Crusade... strange that the series seems to break down by gender lines.
INDIANA JONES! by LarryTheCableGuy	May 3rd, 2008 02:59:52 PM
I can't wait! I'm not a picky guy. I can enjoy things with flaws. This is gonna be fun!
The Brando homage... by poeticwarriorII	May 3rd, 2008 03:03:44 PM
is only part of the problem with this movie. It's 15 years to late and Spielberg inexplicably cast an actor in a part so horribly wrong it boggles the mind. Unless Shia is playing a jewish retard that escaped from the special ed home his part is going to be annoyingly shitty. He's the one thing that has caused the crickets in the fucking theater when this shit runs. People DON'T want to see his stupid ass in this. He's a garbage douche bag actor that should be left for garbage douche bag movies like Transformers. Spielberg has gotten old along with Ford, but Stevie is out of touch with the rest of the world, he's failed to keep his finger on what's hot or not. Hence Tom fucking Cruise in WOTW and a string of shitty mediocre movies.
Fassbinder.... by TheRealMoriarty	May 3rd, 2008 03:12:46 PM
... I didn't say you made it up. It's an internet rumor that's been around for several years, and it's false. You are certainly not the first person to repeat that Shyamalan story, but I am telling you as someone who has read pretty much every draft of INDIANA JONES 4 since the early '90s... there never was a Shyamalan draft. The Darabont draft obviously exists, and much of it is still in the final CRYSTAL SKULL script, which is sort of a Frankenstein's monster of stuff by Lucas, Jeb Stuart, Darabont, and Koepp. Shit, man, Koepp's not a screenwriter... he's a mad scientist.
The homage is only laughable if you think it's serious by leobloom	May 3rd, 2008 03:13:44 PM
which I doubt it is. It's not an homage if it merely duplicates the earlier source material. I would be willing to bet that there will be some difference in Indy 4's take on the Wild One that will make it a tongue-in-cheek reference.
BTW... by TheRealMoriarty	May 3rd, 2008 03:14:10 PM
... I like this trailer much more than the first one. It's a better trailer. Still have no idea what to expect when I finally see the film, but at least this felt like someone was actually trying to sell us the movie.
TheRealMoriarty... by poeticwarriorII	May 3rd, 2008 03:16:18 PM
so what's your take on how the movie will play out and what, exactly, is Shia's character supposed to be? Is he doing the same crap he's done in everything else he's ever been in or is he doing some real acting this time?
I'm going to stop reading stuff about Indy by krushjudgement	May 3rd, 2008 03:17:51 PM
And just go to the movie and enjoy. I like an old fashioned surprise.
if you havent seen the wild one by bacci40	May 3rd, 2008 03:18:53 PM
you arent a cinefile, and should forever be banned from any film site...if brando was around today, he would slap shia silly
You are just a bunch of retards this movie will rule you by Proman1984	May 3rd, 2008 03:19:47 PM
and the summer.
Denver, CO - Audience Underwhelmed by Rebeck2	May 3rd, 2008 03:21:30 PM
If we're checking from all compass points, there was no reaction in my theatre either. Just a tangible sense of disappointment. I'm excited to see this movie, don't get me wrong - but that trailer was either representative of a very mediocre film or was cut literally to lower expectations. It was very bland and awkward. And why not more dialogue? Is that just Spielberg not wanting to give stuff away or do they think the more they show the less we'll like it? I don't get it. Still, I'll be there on the first day like most all of you. Oh and TEMPLE OF DOOM kicks ass - I saw it in my 20's, not as a child (yes, I'm old), and my girlfriend nearly killed me with the grip she had on me. It was a great roller coaster then, and it is now. To me, it is Spielberg at his best. CRUSADE is a crushing bore and an enormous letdown.
I'd also like to know Mori, will the Mutt character play? by IndustryKiller!	May 3rd, 2008 03:22:02 PM
Because it's easily my biggest concern of the film. I know you're probably waiting to see but since you've read the script and you're obviously familiar with Labeouf give us your take on it. Will he actually end up being a foil for Indy or is he just going to be a second tier sidekick thrown in for cheap character dynamic?
Shia hate by Headjew	May 3rd, 2008 03:24:34 PM
People actually groaned during the trailer? its funny but when you talk with "normal" people (not talkbackers, who are not the average film audience), they are way more measured about lebeauf. I'm not even talking about the people who work with him and can't stop raving about how amazingly talented he is. I don't know the reason for the hate but i think its just the overexposure of shia. I also hate to play the jealousy card but maybe some talkbacker can't accept that the kid just played the lead in transformer, banged rihana, and then went back to play opposite Ford in Indy 4... Oh, and btw, thinking that TDK will have a bigger BO than Indy is laughable...
if it bombs....will it mean the end of shia? by bacci40	May 3rd, 2008 03:25:09 PM
if so....DONT GO SEE THIS MOVIE...DOWNLOAD...DEATH TO LABOUF
Mutt is the transformers character... by WeinerPenis	May 3rd, 2008 03:25:59 PM
...except after taking ritalin and after fucking megan fox. He's lost and over his head, but he's got an arrogance and cocksure attitude which I don't think we have ever seen from shia. I think it might be funny. But then again, I think Last Crusade is a great movie.
"Everything Lucas touches turns to shite." by idonotseekabanning	May 3rd, 2008 03:29:24 PM
Do my eyes deceive me, RandySavage, or did you just impugn the honor of Linda Ronstadt? I do so hope my eyes deceive me.
MUTT?!! by hank henshaw	May 3rd, 2008 03:32:25 PM
Is that supposed to be some sort of in-joke cause his father took his alias from a dog?
poeticwarriorII by Herb West	May 3rd, 2008 03:34:46 PM
I know what you're saying. And I'm not falling into the Shia hate thing, but this guy has become popular simply for representing the American suburb kid of the 21st century. I think you are absolutely right to believe that he doesn't have the acting range to play this part. Why do I say that? This says it all. http://tinyurl.com/4xdgwf
Last Crusade is certainly a great movie. by rbatty024	May 3rd, 2008 03:40:18 PM
I don't understand the hatred. It's far more tongue and cheek than the other two films but only by a couple of degrees. It's not wildly out of character as some make it out to be. I think Ford and Connery do a superb job playing each other for comedy. They really reminded me of Bob Hope and Bing Crosby in a way (I'm certain that was part of Spielberg's inspiration for the film). It's Indiana Jones as a road comedy, which is pretty fucking ingenious if you ask me. I also love how Spielberg treats Connery's character in the same manner that he treats the shark in Jaws. We don't see him until halfway through the film. His entrance is pretty great too.
... by CGI_Pants	May 3rd, 2008 03:44:25 PM
Did somebody say CGI Pants?
its not a homage by LarryTheCableGuy	May 3rd, 2008 03:44:28 PM
its just his character trait, hes a marlon brando fan but he's probly not even close to being as cool as the wild one, who just seems like a dork to me anyways compared to the cool dudes of today.
No audience reaction to the trailer? by jones1899	May 3rd, 2008 03:47:08 PM
HA! My theater was packed and what did I hear after and during the trailer. A bunch of hushed and excited "Oh sweet"s and "Daaaammmnnn!" You could feel the excitement for sure. All of you people who are talking shit will still be in that theater opening day anyway.
The Only Great Thing... by Rebeck2	May 3rd, 2008 03:47:21 PM
In LAST CRUSADE is the joke about Hitler signing the book. That is a wonderful little bit, almost as good as the swordsman joke from RAIDERS. Very snarky irreverent humor that is hard to imagine Spielberg doing these days.
jones1899 by Rebeck2	May 3rd, 2008 03:49:57 PM
I said I'd be there opening day - it doesn't automatically erase all our critical thought. Sorry. And where are you?
how can you judge an HD image when you dont have an HD televisio by Bouncy X	May 3rd, 2008 03:52:05 PM
oh and it doesnt matter if this is literally the worst movie ever made, it'll still make shitloads of money based on name recognition alone. look at the star wars prequels, for such "terrible" movies, they sure as hell racked in the bucks and viewers. i'm not gonna go say it'll be the biggest hit of the summer because there's always surprises but it'll definately do as well if not better than expected. and i love the people who judge a movie's fate by how the audience reaction to a theatrical trailer, i mean if i did that...every movie ever made would be terrible and a failure.
fassbinder79 by slone13	May 3rd, 2008 03:54:21 PM
So where the hell are all you guys? Or when you said "going apeshit" did you mean "quietly enjoying the online viral marketing campaign from the comfort of your home"? Last night at Rudy's after the movie someone actually uttered the words "What's The Dark Knight?" when the conversation turned to this summer's movie schedule. Granted, I wouldn't consider this person a film or comic geek by any means, and when I politely informed them exactly who and what The Dark Knight was, they responded "Oh, riiiiight. Heath Ledger's last movie" but I still couldn't help being somewhat surprised by their initial ignorance.
Has anyone heard that rumor... by Herb West	May 3rd, 2008 03:55:53 PM
that there was some legal contract with Paramount to make a total of 5 IJ movies? I've heard about it at several other places. Anyone?
Rebeck2 by jones1899	May 3rd, 2008 03:57:19 PM
Agree actually. But there is a difference between having actual concerns and just being negative for the sake of it (knowing full well its bullshit coming from a ass that will be there opening day. Raiders is my all time favorite movie and I am physically worried that the film will let me down. THe first time I see a new trailer or TV spot, I am giddy, then after watching a few dozen times, I start to see things I am a bit concerned about. Obviously a bit different than getting on this website and spending my time typing negative and unfounded claims just to get a rise out of the other readers or my own neglected crotch.
, but.... by jones1899	May 3rd, 2008 04:01:12 PM
all in all I have high hopes. I trust the director (having enjoyed JP, Munich, WOTW (except the end) and MR. I think Shia's a talented kid and seems to really respect the series, and there are some really nice moments in the trailers. And then there's one more thing - a review from someone I'm not sure I can trust or not. She claims to have seen the film 1 and a half times. Who knows if she's full of shit or not, but she says its second to Raiders and more than the trailers let on to...She's probably lying about even seeing it though.
Bouncy... by jollysleeve	May 3rd, 2008 04:08:47 PM
I'm not saying that an HD image looks "low def" on a standard Tv (because of course it would). I'm saying that material shot in HD looks chintzier, gaudier and more artificial than anything out of Siegfried & Roy's closet on a standard broadcast.
Do any of you. . . by Rikrik_the_Wise	May 3rd, 2008 04:13:32 PM
just watch a movie for entertainment value anymore? Why is everyone so hyper-critical of everything? What happened to a movie just being simply that, a movie? That's my whole criteria for judging a movie, if I am entertained by it, then its a great film.
this movie looks like a turd by SiKDaWg	May 3rd, 2008 04:14:34 PM
took a crap. who's the milf?
Rikrik_the_Wise by Herb West	May 3rd, 2008 04:15:09 PM
You must be new here.
Lots of cheers in our theater after this trailer played by Professor Falcon	May 3rd, 2008 04:16:54 PM
And I live in Baltimore, only 20 minutes from your theatre, AllPowerfulWizardOfOz. Maybe that turd odor you were smelling is all that airplane exhaust from BWI you must be sucking in?
RBatty is the Noted_Sage today. by TomBodet	May 3rd, 2008 04:20:42 PM
I have to agree w/ Rbatty about Crusade. I'll take that over Trample of Doom any day. As for Indy IV, well lemme tell you, here in Scenic (and lovely) NH, the audience really got into the Indy IV trailer, ditto the one for Adam Sandler as the Jewish James Bond or whatever flick, and there even seemed to be some interest in Narni a II: Robotic Lions United. I donno, I'm still interested in the Monkeys and Racecars myself, but Indy-c'mon that's a trademark. It's gonna be great.
the shia hatred... by Captain Katanga	May 3rd, 2008 04:21:33 PM
... is totally bizarre. But of course, its EXACTLY what you would expect from talkbackers. These little pricks are just jealous. They hated DiCaprio too. If a young male actor suddenly gets a lot of success, and especially if they are popular with girls, then talkbackers are predisposed to HATE him. Luckily Spielberg knows a lot more about actual talent than most of the douchebags on this forum.
"I bought a crystal skull paper-weight for- by TomBodet	May 3rd, 2008 04:21:35 PM
-Mother's Day-turned out to be an Alien Communication Device." Pause. "-Who knew-?"
and to whoever said theeir audience cheered the Prince Caspian t by Captain Katanga	May 3rd, 2008 04:22:54 PM
... I call bullshit.
Cate Blanchett channeling the Baroness by Meatbiscuit	May 3rd, 2008 04:23:53 PM
looks like she was a gi joe fan or something, because thats what she looks like. wheres her beloved destro?
jollysleeve by Captain Katanga	May 3rd, 2008 04:26:07 PM
Ive certainly noticed that gaudy, over-colourful quality to HD quicktime trailers, but thats not the fault of HD, thats just the way they are encoded. If you watch HD films on an HDTV that is set up correctly, they look fucking great. Don't judge HD by quicktime trailers.
Expectations are too high by Skipper	May 3rd, 2008 04:30:32 PM
Every seems to be comparing this movie to Raiders, which is unfair. Of course it won't be as good as Raiders, because sequels are never as good as the original. But I think the movie has a chance to be as good as Temple of Doom and Last Crusade. If those movies were released today, they would be ridiculed by most of you. Why can't we just be happy to have a new Indy movie without criticizing it for not being as good as Raiders?
captain katanga... by warsinthesun	May 3rd, 2008 04:31:06 PM
re: 'shia hatred'. Couldn't of said it better.
by genrefanboy	May 3rd, 2008 04:36:32 PM
Over 200 million people viewed the first trailer online which is a record. This shows the level of worldwide interest in Indy still. Indy will be a massive hit as it appeals to a lot of people who would not usually go to the cinema. Its easily going to make close to $1B worldwide even if its poor (which I very much doubt) $700-850m is a lock (look at Spiderman3 which was dire yet made more than SM1/2). First week alone will probably be $350-400m. worlwide
Each movie had a different tone by Larry of Arabia	May 3rd, 2008 04:38:56 PM
The first was an adventure serial. The second was a pre-teen horror film. The third a buddy road picture. I wonder what this one will be...
Captain Katanga.. by jollysleeve	May 3rd, 2008 04:42:26 PM
Thanks for your polite response. I was wondering if you (or anyone else) could answer another question for me. (I'm sure it's common knowledge, but I'm generally ignorant on these issues.) Is a lot of the so-called "HD" material shot for TV these days in fact a form of digital video? I ask because I know that drama shows that have traditionally been shot on film (such as Law & Order)... when I see new episodes of these shows on NBC these days--shows which are now touted to be shot in "hi-def" (again, watching on just my standard, low-tech CRT setup) they just look awful. I mean, nightmarishly artificial and cheap, like a Ringling Brothers acid trip. (Meanwhile, the film-shot commercials shown on the same network during these shows still look "normal.") I just can't imagine that such an alien look is the result of "traditional" filming practices. And furthermore, I wonder, assuming these shows are in fact being shot in digital--are people who say they prefer this type of hi-def programming actually saying they think that digital cinematography looks more natural and more beautiful than film? I'm not trying to pick a fight here with anyone. I honestly don't know much about this subject and want to learn at least some basic facts.
What it boils down to is this: by Skipper	May 3rd, 2008 04:46:25 PM
I think it would literally be impossible to make an Indiana Jones 4 without tons of people bashing it. The passage of time has created a nostalgia for the 1st 3 films so that we overlook their faults. If Indy 4 was filmed just like the first 3, people would say, "It's 2008; those special effects don't cut it anymore." And if Indy 4 used updated special effects, people would say, "Wah, I want it to be just like the old ones."
Re: by Skipper	May 3rd, 2008 04:52:13 PM
If you didn't want to know the synopsis, then why did you read it?
so far i see no real by LarryTheCableGuy	May 3rd, 2008 04:59:47 PM
evidence of alien or ufo activity? besides the mentionings of the skull looking like an alien, whatever that means. am i wrong>
The synopsis doesn't tell you the entire story by Skipper	May 3rd, 2008 05:02:39 PM
It says that Indy goes with Mutt to South America to hunt for crystal skulls, with Russians in pursuit. Everyone already knew this.
Freaky_Zeke by BurgerKing	May 3rd, 2008 05:14:22 PM
Sounds more like you got a dipshit audience than anything, can't really gauge the public reaction to Indy on an audience that stupid.
none of the trailers or clips have been knockouts by BurgerKing	May 3rd, 2008 05:16:20 PM
But that's sort of a relief, should make the movie that much better if my expectations aren't through the roof. Think that's what they were going for? Don't make us hyperventilate with excitement, so when we do see it we'll be pleasently surprised and they'll use more word of mouth to get newer younger people into the theatre? Just like the old days.
Re: by Skipper	May 3rd, 2008 05:23:15 PM
I wouldn't say that they're intentionally making the preview suck, but I do think they wanted to make sure not to give too much away. If they had been willing to give away more plot points, then perhaps the trailer would have been more pleasing to hyper-critical audiences.
jollysleeve by BurgerKing	May 3rd, 2008 05:24:10 PM
I'm not 100% sure but I believe that most TV programs have likely upgraded to digital probably in request or order of the network. However, watching it on a Standard Def TV will not show you the show in HD. You need to have subscribed to the HD version of those channels to get that. Basically, yeah you'll probably see a difference now from the quality of the image from the 90s, but I wouldn't say it's worse. Digital is different than film, no doubt, but like any transition it is met with mixed responses, but eventually we'll all come to accept it. The good news being that many filmmakers, Spielberg being one of them, don't want to abandon film because it captures light in such a unique way, but I wouldn't call it better than digital. Watch Collateral and see how beautiful digital can be.
Spielberg is the most overrated filmmaker of all time by Prossor	May 3rd, 2008 05:26:28 PM

Spielberg is the most underrated filmmaker of all time by Doctor Zoidberg	May 3rd, 2008 05:29:18 PM
so there
so everybody is reading all these movie scripts by kungfuhustler84	May 3rd, 2008 05:30:24 PM
How the fuck can i do that? are they online? I want that Thor script Harry was talking about!!!
Captain Katanga by BurgerKing	May 3rd, 2008 05:33:08 PM
Yeah I agree with what you say, first off that Temple of Doom ROCKS. A close second to Raiders for me, it's beautifully made and I think the adventure is amazing, back when it was released I guess "darker" wasn't popular since Last Crusade went lighter in tone, but today, Temple would probably shine as "darker" is in these days. I love the annoying kid, and the ridiculously "racist" portrayal of the natives. And I'll never forget the beating heart chest ripping open scene. I also liked Last Crusade the least, however, I did appreciate the humour, I hope that you, Katanga, and other talkbackers here (especially the cynics that Katanga mentioned) don't forget that Indy was always an adventure series that had charm and wit, and that jokes like "I thought that was closer" in the trailer are staple elements of the formula. I'm just afraid that once the movie hits, people are going to say "OMG IT WAS TOO SILLY, POS!" Apparently forgetting that all of the films were "silly" to a certain degree. Also agree that there is a certain population of talkbackers here who are trying way, way too hard to be the next Roger Ebert constantly being hyper-critical of EVERYTHING whether it be a movie teaser poster, the make-up of a character, concept art, or the god damn voice-over of this trailer, some TBers feel the need to point out the most insignificant things. Being that uptight, I really do wonder how they can enjoy anything. Let alone have film be a main interest of theirs.
Thanks, BurgerKing... by jollysleeve	May 3rd, 2008 05:34:52 PM
But now I'm really confused. For two reasons. #1 Honestly, the look of these shows (such as Medium, the new L&O Criminal Intent, The Biggest Loswer etc) is so cheap and garish to me that I have a hard time imagining anyone preferring it to things that look (quote/unquote) "normal." But where I'm also confused is #2: I was under the impression that "hi-def" basically means that you're watching something in 5-times the resolution of what we had before. Yet I've also read that film is so inherently detailed that even hi-def (whether it be broadcasts or Blu-Ray) can't completely convey every bit of potential nuanc

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