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wtf
by lilgorgor
Apr 30th, 2008
09:17:19 AM
oh
by lilgorgor
Apr 30th, 2008
09:17:57 AM
I didn't know what the F IJATKOTCS was
by EmptyWalletProductions
Apr 30th, 2008
09:19:43 AM
INDY!
FIRST!
by fimano
Apr 30th, 2008
09:19:56 AM
I can't wait for this!
Shite.
by fimano
Apr 30th, 2008
09:20:28 AM
Alright, 5th!
Why not just call it "The New Indy Trailer"?
by Rickey Henderson
Apr 30th, 2008
09:21:12 AM
Was the space on AICN that much of a premium? Would it have taked too long to type?
I just clicked to find out what movie that was
by CherryValance
Apr 30th, 2008
09:22:03 AM
That's the worst abbreviation ever. They should have changed the title just for that reason.
Merrick, your headlines are always so frustrating
by Bass Ackwards
Apr 30th, 2008
09:22:56 AM
Always!
Why not just call it "The New Indy Trailer", you say?
by Gil Brooks
Apr 30th, 2008
09:23:11 AM
'Cause Merrick's a doosh. A lovable doosh, but a doosh none the less...
ITS ONLY LOADED 50% BUT THAT WAS FUCKING AWESOME.
by jackbauerpowerhour
Apr 30th, 2008
09:23:57 AM
I thought IJATKOTCS was the actual title of some foreign movie..
by CountryBoy
Apr 30th, 2008
09:24:28 AM
IJATIDCWTMICIJWSIRN!!!
by Mr_Incredible
Apr 30th, 2008
09:27:15 AM
or "Indiana Jones and the "I Don't Care What the Movie Is Called, I Just Wanna See It Right Now!!!"
WooHoo
by Fortunesfool
Apr 30th, 2008
09:29:36 AM
er....WooHoo. That was ace. C'mon May22nd
3 weeks away and no reviews???
by gruntybear
Apr 30th, 2008
09:32:13 AM
C'mon. The film is done. Someone must have seen it. Screw this "Iron Man" bullshit and bring on the real films of summer.
i thoght it was spinoff of a creature of land of the lost
by pcassou
Apr 30th, 2008
09:32:54 AM
Connery was a mistake.
by herow/1000faces
Apr 30th, 2008
09:35:47 AM
So too shall Shia be. This movie will suck balls.
Looks terrific
by SpencerTrilby
Apr 30th, 2008
09:36:59 AM
hope it won't disappoint like Iron Man did. Hopefully the Beard will deliver.
First trailer was better
by filmcoyote
Apr 30th, 2008
09:37:16 AM
I'm not getting the excited bive off this one, maybe after the awesome Dark Knight one yesterday. I really can't get up much enthusiasm for IJATKOTCS(!)
vibe not bive
by filmcoyote
Apr 30th, 2008
09:38:08 AM
doh! Oh, and Shia ain't no Brando, positively hate that trailer intro for his character.
Aaaaggghh!!
by PaddyIrishman
Apr 30th, 2008
09:38:13 AM
Really didnt want to see anymore clips of this until I see it in the cinema...Bollix! Looks great, but dont want to see anymore clips so I can be surprised. Bet this will be showing with Ironman this weekend.
Why couldn't they call it...
by darthcees
Apr 30th, 2008
09:41:20 AM
Indiana Jones and the Crystal Skull. I like that so much better.
That was...
by indiewars1
Apr 30th, 2008
09:42:49 AM
AWESOME!!! Can see why they;'ve been holding back
The cliffside carchase
by Abominable Snowcone
Apr 30th, 2008
09:43:47 AM
still looks like CGI shit. Makes you wonder why they put it in the trailer at all. They can't possibly think it looks good. Everything else rocks.
Woah, the opening 30 seconds are PURE Indy
by performingmonkey
Apr 30th, 2008
09:44:44 AM
Yes, this certainly is an Indiana Jones movie. It also seems to have a flavour of the Berg's JP flicks, particularly Lost World. UFO/alien ship confirmed! Also, Cate Blanchett just might not suck as hard as a desperate prom queen. Shia still makes the alarm bells ring though. Ford, however, looks on top form! I hope Indy doesn't end up as that old fart in the museum in Young Indy. I'd rather Indy died in this than he become that totally different character.
meh, I'll wait for youtube
by mefrog
Apr 30th, 2008
09:46:33 AM
That was the shittiest quality ever
I think Merrick
by Abominable Snowcone
Apr 30th, 2008
09:48:01 AM
intentionally gave it that title to point out the ridiculousness of the abbreviation.
If that doesn't make the jizz in your scrote dance a jig
by Hawaiian Organ Donor
Apr 30th, 2008
09:48:50 AM
I don't know what will.
No, must resist watching new trailer
by strosmer
Apr 30th, 2008
09:49:24 AM
until available in glorious quicktime. Must resist. So thirsty, trouble breathing. uhhhhhhhh
blah blah blah
by Harry Bolzonnia
Apr 30th, 2008
09:51:41 AM
it just doesnt excite me...
Wonder what idiocy the haters...
by DocPazuzu
Apr 30th, 2008
09:54:49 AM
...are busily concocting this very moment? Nitpicking is at an all-time frenzy even as we speak.

Brace yourselves...

That looks amazing!
by hypnotron
Apr 30th, 2008
10:01:35 AM
How anyone can watch any of these trailers and feel negative about this movie is totally perplexing to me! This looks like its going to be the best after Raiders - easily!
Yeah Merrick you DICK!
by SuperSneaky
Apr 30th, 2008
10:03:27 AM
How dare you not put "Hey Paramount Legal Dept., Please remove this from the web asap!" as the headline. I mean, fancy making us THINK for a change.
liking the back hand punch....
by RighteousBrother
Apr 30th, 2008
10:04:02 AM
very Indiana Jones.
yeah, bring it on
by kwisatzhaderach
Apr 30th, 2008
10:10:22 AM
love Shia's Marlon brando entrance on the bike. basically this looks inspired, photography looks much darker and more interesting than the super-bland Last Crusade.
looks ok, but...
by moobit
Apr 30th, 2008
10:11:15 AM
i agree with one of the previous posters-you can see the CGI in that clffside jeep chase looks a bag of wank, even taking into concideration the crappy quality of the vid...ah well.
Shut the fuck up about CGI
by hypnotron
Apr 30th, 2008
10:14:24 AM
And go watch Kes if it bothers you that much...
THIS MADE ME POP A BONER
by artvanderlay
Apr 30th, 2008
10:20:45 AM
AND I HAVE A CLIT.
Re- haters idiocy
by Lost Jarv
Apr 30th, 2008
10:21:30 AM
easy, CGI, Costume, age, prequel trilogy, and the title,

"Paging Nodiggity spillage of crazy in aisle 4"

HYPNOTRON
by artvanderlay
Apr 30th, 2008
10:22:42 AM
THE CGI IN KES IS WAY SUPERIOR TO THIS BAG OF MONKEY SPUNK.

by the way
Apr 30th, 2008
10:30:17 AM
Spielberg admitted to USA Today that he'd like to make a deal with Warner Bros. that would switch Indy 4's release date with a much better film on July 18. The auteur admitted "That movie will pwn Indy's ass.......and don't forget to spell own with a 'p'."
So fucking pumped!
by The Bandit
Apr 30th, 2008
10:40:38 AM
This and TDK will rule the summer. Looks great, love this new footage, 22nd cant get here soon enough. I really think Indy 4's going to deliver the goods.
I know everyone as pouring ice
by Series7
Apr 30th, 2008
10:52:36 AM
down their pants to control their excitment for this movie. But did I miss something? Everyone is acting like this film has been a long time coming? Did I miss something? Was there a screen card at the end of Indy 3 saying stay tuned for Indy 4 in theaters Summer of 08! Yeah I am excited and all, but I haven't been wondering when would Steven complete his quadrilogy, every day for the past 19 years. This feels more like Harrison Ford going up to Head Jew and being like, look for some reason I can't pick a good script if it hit me in the nuts, this ear ring must be fucking with my Brain, that and all the food I eat because my girlfriend is really just a giant insect. But I can't die leaving the world with crap like Firewall and K-19. Fucking make another Indiana Jones and let me end my career on a good note. That or they were like, well shit if Sly can do it, then we sure as fuck can? Whos up for the return of Det. Capt. John Book?
That
by Series7
Apr 30th, 2008
10:53:52 AM
And Ford was looking old as hell on the cover of Usa Today a couple of days ago.
Series7
by just pillow talk
Apr 30th, 2008
10:58:14 AM
I could care less how he looked on USA Today. What I do care is how he looked/acted in this trailer and that last clip. What I saw was Indy, now that doesn't mean the whole movie will play out the way I hope, but I have confidence that this will satisfy.

And I could have had an Indy film every 3-5 years since the last one.

OUTSTANDING!!!
by solobear
Apr 30th, 2008
11:02:11 AM
This is great! In three weeks, Indiana Jones will return, and the only gripe I have is that this is going to be a VERRRY LONNNG three weeks. Thank the maker for IRON MAN and SPEED RACER.
Y'know what?
by SuperSneaky
Apr 30th, 2008
11:03:00 AM
Call me gay ("Gay!") but given the chance, I'd much rather have a beautiful, original hand painted matte painting composited into my film just because I really dig the look. Of course, I'll be the first one to admit I'll never have the chance to make that decision, and sure, The Berg's more than earned the right to do whatever the hell he wants with his films, but has CG really become that easy a cinematic shorthand, a crutch if you will, that we forget we used to make some pretty darn good flicks without it?
Wow...
by sapno_krei
Apr 30th, 2008
11:17:20 AM
Just when I thought I'd seen a bit of everything that's in this movie, they show show that rocket sled thing in action. Niiiiiiiice!
Is there another link??
by quadrupletree
Apr 30th, 2008
11:20:35 AM
That one doesn't seem to load.
this thing's loading slooooow
by rev_skarekroe
Apr 30th, 2008
11:26:55 AM
That green MPAA screen is pretty sharp, though.
Holy ffffffff
by digginjim
Apr 30th, 2008
11:39:22 AM
The sound was out of sync, the picture sucked.... but OMG this looks so awesome I think I'm gonna cry....
Another Site for the Trailer
by NoDiggity
Apr 30th, 2008
11:40:21 AM
http://tinyurl.com/6pv9ds
hilarious
by digginjim
Apr 30th, 2008
11:50:11 AM
sorry... but: 'I don't think he plans that far ahead...' several nods to Raiders in that trailer....
Love seeing Marion's smile
by Tacom
Apr 30th, 2008
11:53:37 AM
Wonder who the guy in the cage is?
Faster-
by deanamatronix
Apr 30th, 2008
11:53:49 AM
www.criticalmassreviews.blogsp ot.com
"I don't think he plans that far ahead"
by slone13
Apr 30th, 2008
11:54:20 AM
Genius.
OK, now that it's loaded...
by rev_skarekroe
Apr 30th, 2008
11:55:22 AM
...I'm definitely looking forward to the movie, but the trailers just haven't been very captivating to my mind.
Aewsome
by Underoos Hero
Apr 30th, 2008
11:55:54 AM
UNREAL
by warsinthesun
Apr 30th, 2008
12:08:08 PM
i don't know if I can sit through this without bursting at the seams.
You all are gonna hate this movie...
by beastie
Apr 30th, 2008
12:10:36 PM
...and hate on it for the next decade, just like Phantom Menace. The trailer actually reminds me of the Episode 1 trailer. I, on the other hand, actually enjoyed Phantom Menace. And just like Phantom Menace, I will know and aknowledge that this isn't as good as the original, but still enjoyable, too me. I know I'm in a minority, but I don't care. I'm not trying to change minds.
Series 7
by slone13
Apr 30th, 2008
12:15:26 PM
Yeah, you musta missed something.
All Right. Now for some serious observations.
by NoDiggity
Apr 30th, 2008
12:16:37 PM
I'm basking in Indy nostalgia right now, and that's exactly what the trailer wants us to do. I just want to point out all the elements that are making it feel "Indyish".

1. The "Ark" theme is playing over Indy's voiceover, and his voiceover about the crystal skull is very similar to his speech about the legend of the Ark in the first movie. (I find it awesome, by the way.) 2. Indy and the RPG (as with the bazooka, or whatever, that he threatened to blow up the Ark with) 3. Indy telling shia not to touch anything (just like he told Zapito in Raiders). 4. Marion saying "I don't think he plans that far ahead , which is a reference to "I'm just making this up as I go along" from Raiders. 5. The guy behind bars reaching longingly through the bars is reminiscent of Zapito longingly reaching out for the golden idol in Raiders. 7. Russians and fights on speeding trucks equals Nazis and fights on speeding trucks. 8. Mechanical Trapped Temples, filled with skeletons (which are super cool, so I'm gonna be there, I don't care). 10. Marion (I love her, so I'm happy)

New stuff. Indy swinging like Spiderman (not so happy about that), Shia LeBeouf (though I suppose you could say he's the new Short Round, or a combo of Short Round and New Indy for upcoming movies). Rocket Sled ... I can't think of a parallel to any of the other films, unless you consider the Flying Wing that Indy didn't get to fly in Raiders, or the Biplane he did get to fly in Crusade.

I don't care, though. I'm on board. George Lucas and Spielberg can have my money. The only serious reservation, other than Shia's presence, is that I agree that the cinematography is kinda sterile and cold. In the stills of the Confrontation between Indy and the Russian Gal, I noticed that, while there's a sunset or sunrise in the background, the scene is lit as if the light wee coming from the sides of the frame. Not good as far as attention to detail and lighting is concerned (you can't see that in this trailer, though.
It'll be good
by Jor-El23
Apr 30th, 2008
12:17:23 PM
I know it will. It took then 18 years to get the right script. I know Lucas can't be trusted but I think Spielberg and Ford kept him in check and made the best script they thought they could get. I have no worries about Spielberg as the director, obviously. It's just the script that concerns me.
Only 63 posts
by Samuel Fulmer
Apr 30th, 2008
12:30:19 PM
Maybe the non hype is backfiring?
"The guy behind bars reaching longingly...
by DocPazuzu
Apr 30th, 2008
12:34:41 PM
...through the bars is reminiscent of Zapito longingly reaching out for the golden idol in Raiders."

That, NoDiggity, is by far the most ludicrously far-fetched thing you have ever written, and that's saying a lot since you've posted some real whoppers in the past. This thing even beats the classic "Newt is Jones" post.

Furthermore, when did Zatipo ever "reach" for anything?

The only one who is "reaching longingly" here is you.

Not a great fan of the first trailer but...
by JTStyler
Apr 30th, 2008
12:36:54 PM
This trailer delivered like Santa at Christmas! Brilliant. The only problem I have is that I kinda miss the edge of Raiders - it's lack of winking, knowing self-aware humour that Last Crusade, Temple of Doom and now Crystal Skull seem to have in spades. Oh well!
rev_skarekroe: I agree, man.
by Mosquito March
Apr 30th, 2008
12:37:24 PM
I've noticed a severe lack of truly sensational "trailer moments", and all the bits of dialogue they've included has been extremely lackluster ("...don't touch anything..."). I can't think of one scene in this trailer that compares even to that shot of the speedboat exploding in LAST CRUSADE as it comes toward the camera, let alone the reveal of Connery as Henry Sr. ("Junior!" BRRRRAAAAAAAPPP!!! "Don't call me Junior!"). And those two moments are from what a lot of talkbackers are saying is the weakest of the original films! And the performances seem muted, as well. It seems like they're just saying their dialogue and not injecting any kind of real irony or humor. Connery could pop out of a tank surrounded by Nazis and explosions and say "You call this archaeology?" and have the audience in stitches. I guess we're supposed to piss ourselves over "come on, genius" and "damn, I thought that was closer", but it's not working. The magic and charm seems long gone. After watching this trailer multiple times, there is simply nothing here that makes me think, "Oh my god, you could only get this film experience from Lucas/Ford/Spielberg/Indiana Jones." Maybe from an INDY computer game, but not a film.
""You call this archaeology?" and have the audience in stitches.
by DocPazuzu
Apr 30th, 2008
12:38:41 PM
What a hoot. Yeah.
and yet DocP...
by just pillow talk
Apr 30th, 2008
12:38:48 PM
while that post was NoDiggitish, it also was not.

"I don't care, though. I'm on board. George Lucas and Spielberg can have my money."

Just keep an open mind NoDiggity, and just succumb to the new Indy, relax, and you'll enjoy it without having to worry about any of these 'similarities' that irk you.

Pazuzu, don't be a dick.
by NoDiggity
Apr 30th, 2008
12:40:05 PM
I admit that's weak, especially since I don't know the context of the new scene. But he does look Zapito, and he is reaching longingly, so it IS "reminiscent" of that scene with Zapito reaching for the Idol in Raiders. Will the actual scene have this new guy reaching longingly for the Crystal Skull, or for a pile of Mayan gold? Who knows.
just pillow talk
by DocPazuzu
Apr 30th, 2008
12:43:21 PM
Don't be duped by his nefarious ways! He's hiding behind the "they can have my money" ploy so that it lends believability to his other horseshit. The fact is, they had his moolah as soon as the movie was announced. Remember, Ringwearer9 saw King Kong twice - in the theater!
Oh...
by JTStyler
Apr 30th, 2008
12:44:30 PM
And i still feel Temple of Doom is the weakest of the three for several reasons, chiefly in one word - Capshaw.
Just Pillow Talk, the funny thing is ....
by NoDiggity
Apr 30th, 2008
12:44:43 PM
... the similarities aren't irking me. They are making me feel happy. My brain is melting.
I know DocP...but one can hope
by just pillow talk
Apr 30th, 2008
12:45:28 PM
The question is, how many times will NoDiggity see it? Three times? Four?

I can hardly await for your review NoDiggity, when you take it screen shot for screen shot telling us where he was being Indy, where he wasn't. Should be a blast.

for real NoDiggity?
by just pillow talk
Apr 30th, 2008
12:46:19 PM
Let you geek force field down...
They copied the format of the trailer from a fan trailer
by joeelliott
Apr 30th, 2008
12:46:45 PM
I wish I could find it but a while back (like 10years maybe) someone made a Raiders anniversary trailer that was damn good - the opening has Marcus saying "The bible speaks of the Ark leveling mountains and laying waste to entire regions. An army that carries the Ark before it, is invincible" Indy is in the map room when the headpiece laser tags the well of souls and the whip cracks across screen and says "Indiana Jones is back" -- This trailer is done almost exactly in the same way. I hope the guy who was once a fan sees that imitation is flattery
NoDiggity
by DocPazuzu
Apr 30th, 2008
12:47:00 PM
Again, when did Zatipo ever "reach" for anything in Raiders?
NoDiggity: "Callbacks" are EVIL.
by Mosquito March
Apr 30th, 2008
12:47:59 PM
The last thing I want to see is a bunch of repeated jokes from RAIDERS. Fuck that. That was one of the many reasons I hated SUPERMAN RETURNS, the over-reliance on references to the Donner films, from rehashed dialogue ("statistically speaking, flying is STILL the safest way to travel") to the Supes/Lois night flight "can you read my mind" call back. It's lazy, lazy, lazy writing, and a cheap way to get a laugh, and get the audience to transfer good will from earlier experiences. I could stomach the Ark callback in LAST CRUSADE because they were after a Christian relic and it didn't seem entirely out of place in a catacomb. But, in TEMPLE OF DOOM, they did a callback to a scene in a story that occurs later in the timeline, not earlier (the Indy-shoots-sword-guys scenes). That's the film-maker saying "fuck continuity and originality, let's just go for the laugh".
Pazuzu, maybe you don't remember ...
by NoDiggity
Apr 30th, 2008
12:48:39 PM
... but when Indy was reaching for the idol in RAIDERS, Zapito (that was his name, yes?) was watching and longingly miming getting his own hands on the idol.
give me the whip! throw me the idol!!
by Groothewarrior
Apr 30th, 2008
12:48:43 PM
its nice here under the radar, dipshits
by g-ride9000
Apr 30th, 2008
12:51:03 PM
keep the name weird and the copyright holders stay away????get it....
No, he wasn't.
by DocPazuzu
Apr 30th, 2008
12:51:28 PM
He was making "money money money" signs with his hands.

This exchange is reminiscent of our earlier exchange regarding Ash and Ripley in the med lab.

Mosquito March, I agree in principle.
by NoDiggity
Apr 30th, 2008
12:52:22 PM
Callbacks ARE evil. It detracts from the reality of the new film that is making those callbacks, because it makes the characters all seem like fans of Indiana Jones movies, not real characters in a real situation. Callbacks mean less room for NEW dialogue/situations. But it's summer, and that whole trailer "callbacked" to a really great movie, and for some reason I'm falling for it. As some pointed out, the Phantom Menace trailers looked pretty good too.
Pazuzu, it reminded ME of that scene.
by NoDiggity
Apr 30th, 2008
12:53:48 PM
If you can't see why, you are just being a stubborn jackass.
Reminding YOU of that scene...
by DocPazuzu
Apr 30th, 2008
12:55:15 PM
...doesn't make it a retread by Spielberg.
SPOILER! short round kicks shia's ass at end of movie
by Groothewarrior
Apr 30th, 2008
12:55:22 PM
Exactly Pazuzu.
by NoDiggity
Apr 30th, 2008
01:00:51 PM
Unless we see it in context, and he's reaching for a Crystal Skull or a pile of gold.
What movie was this trailer in front of?
by Orcus
Apr 30th, 2008
01:09:38 PM
Anyone?
JTStyler
by kwisatzhaderach
Apr 30th, 2008
01:11:36 PM
I feel Last Crusade is by far the weakest of the three for several reasons, chiefly in one word - Connery.
JTStyler
by kwisatzhaderach
Apr 30th, 2008
01:11:36 PM
I feel Last Crusade is by far the weakest of the three for several reasons, chiefly in one word - Connery.
double post
by kwisatzhaderach
Apr 30th, 2008
01:12:49 PM
my laptop sucks
If you want to d/l it...
by Orcus
Apr 30th, 2008
01:15:13 PM
http://sawyer840.com/odi/funti me.flv
The guy LOOKED like Zapito, too.
by NoDiggity
Apr 30th, 2008
01:16:03 PM
Forgot to mention that.
Oh, Pazuzu, he did make "money money" signs, BUT...
by NoDiggity
Apr 30th, 2008
01:17:53 PM
...he also reached longingly.
Orcus thought it was Sapito
by Orcus
Apr 30th, 2008
01:18:10 PM
Zapito was his cousin :)
The Temple of Doom "callback"
by slone13
Apr 30th, 2008
01:27:19 PM
Is only really a "callback" if you think the first time Indy ever shot a guy with a sword was in Raiders. The first time WE ever saw Indy shoot a guy with a sword was in Raiders. The second time WE ever saw him attempt it was in Temple of Doom (regardless of the fact that Temple was a prequel). But anyone who's truly familiar with the character of Indiana Jones knows that Indy's shot MANY a swordsman in his lifetime. Just look at his face when he does it in Raiders. It's a total look of "Idiot. Bringing a sword to a gun fight." Conitinuity, schmontinuity. Seriously, are people really bitching about something as silly as a "callback"? As if any of the previous Indy flicks were loaded with them in the first place?
This looks awesome!
by abovo
Apr 30th, 2008
01:27:44 PM
Thanks for the tip on the new trailer. I can't wait to see the movie. It looks great!
NoDiggity - If you like the prevalent callbacks in this trailer.
by Mosquito March
Apr 30th, 2008
01:28:24 PM
...then you don't really even agree with me in principle. These callbacks are lazy and indefensible, when you consider that this film has been given carte blanche to do whetever it wants to do. If they spend their time and money cannibalizing scenes and lines from RAIDERS after 27 years when they can be doing something fresh and new, there's really no excuse. As far as EPISODE ONE goes, the problem wasn't a cannibalization of scenes and lines from the original trilogy - the problem was the new direction Lucas was taking really bore no resemblance to what had come before. This is largely because the anchors of the original films were Han, Luke and Leia. In the case of INDY 4, we have the same creative team (plus David Koepp...ugh) and the same two leads from RAIDERS. They have no excuse for letting Indy and Marion tread water after 27 years. They have the opportunity to let these characters create NEW iconic moments, things we could only get from THIS film. And, who knows? Maybe they have. But, the trailer is rife with references to shit we've already seen. And I find that far from comforting.
No, NoDiggity...
by DocPazuzu
Apr 30th, 2008
01:30:00 PM
...he wasn't reaching. Seriously, you really need to actually rewatch these movies before making claims like that. This goes for Alien and Aliens as well.
slone13 - Come on, man.
by Mosquito March
Apr 30th, 2008
01:34:09 PM
You know damn well that nearly everybody who bought a ticket to TEMPLE in 1984 saw RAIDERS first. And the reason it's funny in TEMPLE is because we see Indy's easy solution from RAIDERS, in one of the most memorable movie scenes of all time, fail in the same situation. In fact, I would wager that the majority of the people who saw TEMPLE probably thought it was a sequel and not a prequel. They don't give a shit when it takes place - they laugh because they remembered what happened the last time.
If you take out the prevalent callbacks...
by sapno_krei
Apr 30th, 2008
01:44:53 PM
...to other Indy movies, you're left with The Young Indiana Jones Chronicles. That's not a personal dig on the show (I actually LOVED it), but one of the big complaints from some people was that it didn't feel "Indy enough."
So a callback is a ref to a previous work?
by Orcus
Apr 30th, 2008
01:47:34 PM
Orcus is just getting his terms right since it's a new one to him
Orcus...
by just pillow talk
Apr 30th, 2008
01:49:58 PM
Me thinks the other thread is where we belong...
Diggity - a bone to pick with you
by finky089
Apr 30th, 2008
01:57:30 PM
for all your Indiana Jones-lovin comments, don't you know that ALfred Molina's character is named SATIPO not "Zapito"?

I mean how am I supposed to take "Indy = Newt" arguments seriously when you obviously don't respect the original Indy movie.

Secondly, that guy in the new trailer really doesn't look anything like Satipo. Can't you tell it's a "young" Abner Ravenwood reaching for something (likely related to a crystal skull?). He looks more like Alan Cumming from Circle of Friends than Satipo.

BraneRobot - "Raiders drags in places"?
by finky089
Apr 30th, 2008
02:03:57 PM
it hits high and low moments of action like a perfect frickin example of screenwriting. The only "slow" moments it has are there by design of the story.

What, is Indy's expository speech to Eaton and Musgrove about the Ark and Staff of Rah too "boring" for you to lsten to? If all someone cares about is the chase and fight scenes, then you'll miss some good dialogue between Marion and Rene in the tent.

I'm just being defensive of one of my favorite movies ever, but seriously, what parts are "slow" to you that could be cut?

Mosquito March
by slone13
Apr 30th, 2008
02:05:44 PM
Just having a little fun with the semantics of a callback being found in a prequel. And maybe that should be "some antics", not semantics. Either way, it's funny, and that's exactly the point.
I'm with Mosquito March
by Mattyboy122
Apr 30th, 2008
02:12:57 PM
On this one. I think the callbacks are, for the most part, lazy and cynical.
CGI really any worse than blue-screen?
by strosmer
Apr 30th, 2008
02:15:48 PM
I haven't watched the trailer yet. I'll wait to see it the theater, but I've seen a couple posts complaining about the CGI in the cliff chase. All I can say is what I see on my computer never matches what I actually see on the big screen. I pay close attention to shots that look too CGI on computer and compare those shots to what I see at the theater. Generally I find that they don't look so bad on the big screen. I don't know why this is. I can't think of any clear examples right now, but I think of when I saw the Beowulf trailer on computer and thinking a lot of the shots resembled a mediocre video game cinematic, but they all looked fine on the big screen. It can be stated that CGI and film simply don't mix. If there are problems with the CGI in this movie, it will be because Spielberg still chooses to shoot on film. Arguably that's a good reason for him to not use CGI, but I'm at the point as a filmgoer where picking out CGI doesn't bother me any more than picking out blue-screening in older movies. It's a special effect, no matter how carefully crafted it is, it tends to pop out. You do the best you can with what you've got.

According to the recent EW interview, Lucas prodded Spielberg to shoot with digital cameras, but Spielberg has a love for editing on film, which I completely respect. I think as long as CGI is composited to film, there will always be some discrepancy to be nit-picked. Having said all that, I personally think Lucas and Spielberg tend to know what they're doing when it comes to making movies, and the look of this film will be no worse than anything we've seen in their previous work. I can't fucking wait!

strosmer
by finky089
Apr 30th, 2008
02:36:03 PM
just because the CGI looks good, doesn't render any qualitative points for the rest of the movie (see SW Prequels or War of the Worlds)

(is it my imagination, or did Winstone's CGI Pants look better this time?)

Is that Jason Bateman?
by Mel Gibsteinberg
Apr 30th, 2008
02:39:29 PM
Anyone else think the dude strangling the brother in that Redbelt promo looks exactly like Jason Bateman?
Mosquito, I DO Agree with you in principle.
by NoDiggity
Apr 30th, 2008
02:41:34 PM
In fact, I've been railing against the signs of retreading, callbacking, on these talkbacks all along. I've pointed out the still photo with Indy and Shia, where Indy has cobwebs on his hat (callback to Raiders), I've seen the still with Indy shrieking in fear at another snake, I've noted in disgust the scene in the early trailer where Indy knocks enemy military guides out of a military truck, just as he did in Raiders. I note the scary South American theme, the mechanical Temple Traps, the evil Leader of the enemy military types, the lazy use of the Warehouse from the first movie as a location for action. I note that everything that makes this trailer look good is due to point for point parallels with Raiders ... use of Raiders' Ark theme, Indy discussing the legend of the Crystal Skull in almost exactly the same way he did the Ark ... I've noted the apathetic way Ford and pretty much everyone deliver their lines ... I've been pissed off and disgruntled about it all for months. You are saying everying I've been saying.

And you are right. As am I. But it's been a long cold winter, the sun is shining, and this new, manipulative, cynical trailer has gottem past my intellect into my memory of how awesome Raiders was. And for now, I'm just enjoying it. I do note that Ford's line "You're embarassing us" just doesn't have a cool vibe to it at all, probably because it isn't calling back to anything.

One "callback" that we aren't sure will be in the movie yet, but we might as well assume is, is the line "It's not the mileage, it's the years", which Frank Darabont, the writer of a previously "rejected" script, was very proud of having put into that version of the script. It has to show up. Because retreading is what this new movie is all about. I'm just tired of the hating, and I'm just going to relax and accept it.
Zatipo vs. Satipo ...
by NoDiggity
Apr 30th, 2008
02:44:14 PM
As you'll note, I put a question mark next to "Zapito". I knew I had it wrong. I get a little dyslexic when I haven't had my coffee, and I haven't rewatched Raiders in quite a long time.
At least it's the same character retreading
by Samuel Fulmer
Apr 30th, 2008
02:44:55 PM
the same moments. Unlike dumb Prequel crap like "Qui Gon Jin would never join you."
"You're embarassing us"
by Orcus
Apr 30th, 2008
02:57:55 PM
Couldn't that be seen as a ref from TOD when Willie refused to eat the meal the villagers provided?
Bring on the callbacks!!!!
by slone13
Apr 30th, 2008
03:05:38 PM

Every single last one of them!!!!

And yes, Mel Gibsteinberg
by slone13
Apr 30th, 2008
03:07:57 PM
I would have bet money that it was Jason Bateman. I actually went to IMDB to find out for sure.
Cobwebs on the hat a "callback"?
by slone13
Apr 30th, 2008
03:09:45 PM
You're reaching again, NoDiggity. And completely wrong about the "You're embarrassing us" line, too.
Re: Callbacks
by sapno_krei
Apr 30th, 2008
03:16:11 PM
From Indy screenwriter David Koepp:

"As much as he is a fan of Indy lore, Koepp says it’s essential to discard that point of view when tapping out further adventures. “You can’t write a fan script,” he insists. “You have to pretend that this movie exists without the other one.”

“The worst thing to do would be to have him make reference to things he said in the first movie, like to pun on lines of dialogue,” he argues. “That’s tempting, because you’ve seen the movie a hundred times and you know all the dialogue, but no human being remembers exactly what they said 25 years ago word for word, much less make reference to it. So you try to put aside the other movies and yet be in the spirit of them.”

So, if there are any blatant and annoying references to previous films in the movie, they are most likely not his fault.

Now That The Link's Pulled...
by utz_world
Apr 30th, 2008
03:20:16 PM
...please confirm that Paramount will attach the darn thing to "Iron Man" prints this weekend.
FLAMES ON CALLBACKS!
by Orcus
Apr 30th, 2008
03:21:47 PM
Hehehehehe :)
Orcus, "You're embarrassing us" could be a callback .."
by NoDiggity
Apr 30th, 2008
03:25:05 PM
In Temple it was "You're insulting them, and you are embarrassing me." It's not something I would have recognized as a callback, but it is similar enough to count. It is another bad sign of uncreative dialogue writing, if so.
David Koepp's attitude is refreshing.
by NoDiggity
Apr 30th, 2008
03:28:20 PM
Though Marion's line is definitely a callback to the "I'm just making this up as I go along" line.
Pulled link?
by Orcus
Apr 30th, 2008
03:32:28 PM
What? This? http://spoilertv-movies.blogsp ot.com/2008/04/new-indiana-jon es-theatrical-trailer.html
wow! very nice.
by quadrupletree
Apr 30th, 2008
03:39:45 PM
This is actually looking good to me now. Like they said above, lets hope the story is good, so far I'm not on board with the story but looks like they've captured some of the tone of the original and that's got my mouth watering.
Link in Tinyurl
by NoDiggity
Apr 30th, 2008
03:47:16 PM
http://tinyurl.com/4hmyjh
'Raiders drags in places'
by kwisatzhaderach
Apr 30th, 2008
03:49:14 PM
Some people just really don't have a clue what they're talking about.
awesome
by El Borak
Apr 30th, 2008
04:31:36 PM
can't f'n wait.
finky089
by strosmer
Apr 30th, 2008
04:49:13 PM
I can't argue qualitative points about a movie I haven't seen yet. Where in my post do I say anything about the CGI actually looking good?
If Merrick had said "Indy film" we wouldn't think he's so clever
by Lenny8
Apr 30th, 2008
05:00:06 PM
See how it works? That was Merrick's creative engine on all eight cylinders!
Oh it'll be good. Don't worry.
by TomBodet
Apr 30th, 2008
06:07:51 PM
Merrick. PLEASE refrain from addlepated acronyms for movies again, okay? I thought this was about lord knows what-
I am NOW excited
by Fineus Fog
Apr 30th, 2008
06:28:48 PM
It was the jump between cars to punch naughty russians that did it for me - for once no wire assisted-digital double -crazy jumping. Just a dude leaping between cars to punch another dude in the face
INDY LIVES!!!
by solobear
Apr 30th, 2008
06:34:48 PM
After seeing this trailer, there is no doubt that this is going to be the rip-snortinest flick this summer. Spielberg, Lucas and company have no doubt made another great action/adventure film. I have had no doubts about this film from the very beginning, and every scene-photo-trailer that we see is just making that even more clear. NOBODY can top these guys.
MORE!!!
by solobear
Apr 30th, 2008
06:37:09 PM
I just hope that when this film opens, Spielberg and his posse are jazzed enough to get another going right away. 19 years is just TOO EFFIN' LONG!
ITTTOTAWJFKUTGW
by gotilk
Apr 30th, 2008
06:48:17 PM
subject says it all
Yup, it's gone from Spoiler TV now.
by Nosferatu Jones
Apr 30th, 2008
07:17:42 PM
Damn it!!!
"Raiders drags in places"
by MattmanReturns
Apr 30th, 2008
07:28:22 PM
I've officially heard everything. Shit. That just blew my brain apart.
strosmer
by finky089
Apr 30th, 2008
07:34:14 PM
sorry, you were talking about CGI in films for most of your post, then at the end said "the look of this film will be no worse than anything we've seen in their previous work." I assumed when you said "the look" you were talking about the way the CGI effects would look in Indy IV.

I'm excited for Indy, too. And AGree that SS and GL have generally done well when it comes to visual effects (if that is what you meant). I just meant that while the prequels had good effects work, it wasn't enough to make the films any better. Hopefully, this won't be the case with Indy.

it really pains me to not be able to say:
by finky089
Apr 30th, 2008
07:35:28 PM
"I'll be there opening night" about this film. But, i will be there opening week after I get married!
no shit, MattmanReturns, et al
by finky089
Apr 30th, 2008
07:36:19 PM
I just don't know what they guy was talking about. I wanted to give him a reasonable chance to explain himself, but seriously, WTF?!
LONG LIVE INDIANA JONES!!!
by finky089
Apr 30th, 2008
07:36:57 PM
gruntybear
by Jack Colby
Apr 30th, 2008
08:10:16 PM
If you're still reading... Iron Man IS one of the real films of summer. And will probably do better than IJATKOTCS, and especially TDK (that's right, I'm calling it.)
Jack Colby
by SpencerTrilby
Apr 30th, 2008
08:29:21 PM
Keep in mind that I'm not deluded enough to change anyone's mind and I respect your opinion... but seriously, Iron Man was beyond mediocre. All hype, no balls.

Indy IV may be terrible, who knows... But I feel that vibe, the one one you can feel from movies that got heart. A vibe I failed to notice in the whole 130 minutes of Iron Man.

For those who missed it - better link
by SpencerTrilby
Apr 30th, 2008
08:39:47 PM
with SYNCHRONIZED audio!

http://tinyurl.com/4aja6v

When Indy does that double punch...
by TiVo1138
Apr 30th, 2008
08:39:51 PM
it was awesome.
When Indy does that double punch...
by TiVo1138
Apr 30th, 2008
08:39:52 PM
it was awesome.
Get the trailer here
by wadi77
Apr 30th, 2008
08:42:18 PM
http://tinyurl.com/5vwudy

In FLV flash format.

Spencer and Wadi...
by Nosferatu Jones
Apr 30th, 2008
09:43:23 PM
...bless your kind-hearted souls!
Well dammit, didn't see the talkback.
by Shermdawg
Apr 30th, 2008
10:21:35 PM
Looks like those emailed links weren't as new as I had thought.
I was worried before...
by Darth Dean
Apr 30th, 2008
10:32:41 PM
...but now I have every bit of faith in this movie.
Saw this new trailer in front of Iron Man
by Dogmatic
May 1st, 2008
12:36:01 AM
tonight and it was awesome! I loved every line Indy delivered! My favorite is when he and LeBeef are in a cave reminiscent of the beginning of Raiders and Indy gives a worried look and tells LeBeef "Don't touch ANYthing" and the way he said to him "Come here genius." with that classic Indy sarcasm and smirk...even a bit reminiscent of old Han Solo. And the action was great too! Indy throw double punches a big a Russian who barely feels it reminded me of the Raiders mechanic fight and Indy jumping from one jeep to another to punch out some guys and Indy telling his sidekick to "..put your hands down you're embarrassing us." YEAH!!! INdy's back! Thank God! Iron Man was pretty great but it was still just lead-in for Indy 4 for me!
Merrick is fucking unworthy this will rule
by Proman1984
May 1st, 2008
12:37:29 AM
Iron who?
OOOh, you mean Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skul
by kirttrik
May 1st, 2008
01:00:12 AM
I got it.
ISOTTAMIGA
by gotilk
May 1st, 2008
01:05:31 AM
subject says it all
WTTRSYASFU
by gotilk
May 1st, 2008
01:24:23 AM
subject says it all and more
This movie will be perfectly entertaining
by darthvedder81
May 1st, 2008
02:44:03 AM
Better than "Raiders"? Hell no, but as I've said before "Raiders" is one of the greatest movies ever made. Even with the crap YouTube quality you can see the detail and care that went into making this look like a classic Indy adventure. May 22 can't get here fast enough.
Good Lord!
by Lost Jarv
May 1st, 2008
03:37:40 AM
Diggers has mellowed and a new pointy-domed cretin has appeared to replace him.

Re Sapito- You need to rewatch it diggers (just as you need to rewatch Alien and Aliens), you obviously haven't seen it in a long time- and you are miles off with this one. Remember how far off you were last time, this time you are even further away.

and a note of warning- everyone ignore BraneRobot, he is the latest incarnation of the oft-banned but never lamented monster AnimalStructure/ Thunderballs. Just don't read his posts


by AllieJamison
May 1st, 2008
06:13:16 AM
Hey finky, we'll think of you, opening day. You'll be spiritually present in a way. This trailer is fantastic. Ford appears to nail that voice over. That's undeniably Henry Jones Jr. talking...and that somewhat goofy jump on the soldiers in the other vehicle... great stuff. 21 days to go.
PG-13
by kwisatzhaderach
May 1st, 2008
07:45:34 AM
Cool.
finky089
by strosmer
May 1st, 2008
09:09:45 AM
It's all cool. I only wanted to argue that CGI on a computer playback may not equate to what you see on the big screen. I gotta pick on the nit-pickers, ya know?
i saw it in front of Iron Man too
by DarthBakpao
May 1st, 2008
09:32:52 AM
There are an inordinate amount of 'callbacks' in the trailers..
by specialbeats
May 1st, 2008
09:34:27 AM
..because they're trying to sell the film, and morons (the American audience) enjoy being reminded of things they've seen before. Especially when those things are 20 years old. So, to all of you geniuses who are hung up on the number of references in the latest trailer, you're either just a hater and your opinion doesn't matter anyway, or you're tremendously slow. Either way, minimize your embarrassment now and shut it already.
Pg13
by Lost Jarv
May 1st, 2008
09:34:51 AM
completely pointless. It's exactly the same as the old PG. All it means is that cretinous chav scum will bring their 9 year old sugar charged spawn in and ruin my day.
Where did the phrase callback originate from anyway
by Orcus
May 1st, 2008
09:43:42 AM
This is the first thread Orcus has seen it in and it's been mentioned a zillion times already. Must have missed the newsletter on that one
Please, people...
by DocPazuzu
May 1st, 2008
10:51:25 AM
...stop using the phrase "callback". It's a poor fit for the phenomenon it's supposed to describe and wildly annoying.

Please stop.

Thank you.

I'd never heard the term "callback" before this thread
by crazyhorse2099
May 1st, 2008
11:22:18 AM

Yet I used it like 5 times yesterday. The REAL definition of a callback it when an actor literally gets "called back" after an audtion to read for a part again.

I am more than willing to replace "callback" in my vernacular with a less assinine word. But until someone comes up with a better term , what do we have? "In-joke reference to a scene from a previous film in the series" doesn't actually roll off the tongue too well...

Thanks, AllieJ
by finky089
May 1st, 2008
11:22:39 AM
I'll be with you all in spirit...except late in the night when I'm communing one-on-one with my new bride.

Was that TMI?

What's the proper term, Pazuzu ?
by NoDiggity
May 1st, 2008
11:42:27 AM
Don't know? Then shut up. It works for the purposes of this conversation.
How about ref?
by Orcus
May 1st, 2008
11:45:51 AM
As in refers back to
Doc
by toadkillerdog
May 1st, 2008
11:56:53 AM
The absolute proper term would be Allude. You could use Allusion as well. Referential works. Or Cite, or even Cite-back.
Since we like slang here - call it a Ref
by toadkillerdog
May 1st, 2008
12:01:01 PM
As in referential.
throwback > callback
by STLost
May 1st, 2008
12:02:45 PM
eh?
Oh, the "You're embarrassing us" line ...
by NoDiggity
May 1st, 2008
12:06:31 PM
... I actually think that's NOT a callback, or a "reference that reminds us of a line from a previous film, causing a frisson of recognition". The contexts are too dissimilar. But it still could be an unconscious reference on the writers part. "Something about Indy telling this guy he's embarrassing him seems right". Doesn't have to be on purpose or anything, and if it makes sense in a different context, and isn't just forcing a line in there, then it's fine.
"throwback" or "ref"
by crazyhorse2099
May 1st, 2008
12:06:58 PM
I concur. Both infinitely better than the completely silly sounding "callback".
Orcus like ref
by Orcus
May 1st, 2008
12:07:29 PM
Callback makes it sound like there's a complicated procedure behind it :)
I LIKE "callback".
by NoDiggity
May 1st, 2008
12:08:09 PM
Because it's purpose it to call to mind moments from previous films.
I love that DocPazuzu hates pointyheadedness ...
by NoDiggity
May 1st, 2008
12:09:59 PM
.... and then try to tell people to stop using words "improperly".
callback sucks
by STLost
May 1st, 2008
12:13:41 PM
yeah, but you aren't "calling" to mind. You are "recalling". So it should be "recallback", which sounds even dumber than "callback".
"They're making a'Ref' ", sounds better, than making a callback
by toadkillerdog
May 1st, 2008
12:16:26 PM
Ref has more flexibility, and callback already has a legit meaning in the industry for actors. No need for confusion.
Potato -Tomato, lets call the whole thing off
by Orcus
May 1st, 2008
12:17:09 PM
Potatoe, Tomatoe - lets coll the hole ting off
by toadkillerdog
May 1st, 2008
12:23:30 PM
Or somesuch ting
There's no "confusion" with "callback".
by NoDiggity
May 1st, 2008
12:37:16 PM
The context makes it perfectly clear that we aren't talking about actors being "called back" for roles in movies. Plenty of words have double meanings. Doc Pazuzu is an anal, bullying jerk, who has nothing to contribute except "Stop this, stop that, you are wrong, you suck."
"callback" doesn't work
by finky089
May 1st, 2008
12:42:10 PM
because the term is already known and widely used for casting purposes, i.e when you get a "callback" for an audition.

That is a "callback". Diggity, what you refer to as a "callback" is simply a reference to a previous film. Make up a new work that makes sense if yo umust, but don't pervert the use of one that already exists for a different purpose.

These "callbacks" you cite are just references....and frankly, some of them aren't even that.

besides, diggity
by finky089
May 1st, 2008
12:43:44 PM
if you were to say to someone who hasn't followed this TB "hey, there were alot of callbacks in that new Indiana Jones movie" I would bet alot of cash that 9.5 out of 10 people would assume you were talking about the CASTING of the film, not things in the actual film that refer back to other Indy movies.
the 0.5 person would just simply be confused altogether
by finky089
May 1st, 2008
12:44:23 PM
Finky, who was confused?
by NoDiggity
May 1st, 2008
12:49:46 PM
Not one person was confused. Until DocPazuzu, and his anal little "rule" about using language. If you want to insist on using the phrase "It's a call back to .." instead of "It's a callback", go right ahead. But there is not "rule" about it. A "callback" for actors is just some word that people made up to substitute for the idea of getting called to come back to read for a part that you'd already read for. It wasn't a word before that. Since we aren't talking about actors being called back for parts they've alread read, there is no way to be confused. People understand words based on the context in which they are used, and anyone who claims that they are "confused" by the word "callback" in a conversation about references to previous movies, that person is a MORON for not being able to figure out that context. Is DocPazuzu a moron? I leave that for you to decide? Do you agree with DocPazuzu ? I leave it to you whether you want to be seen as stupid as DocPazuzu. Or as anal. Or as a big jackass who likes to destroy conversations with his nastiness instead of contributing to them.
I don't see how "This line is a callback to that line" ...
by NoDiggity
May 1st, 2008
12:52:49 PM
... can be confused with actors being called back. No one is going to be confused about that, because lines of dialogue, or scenes in a movie, are NOT actors. There can't be any confusion unless you are stupid enough to think that "line" and "scene" are the names of actors.
Instead of "callback" how about
by strosmer
May 1st, 2008
12:58:10 PM
the term "prevmovieref"? Ah, yes. I'm a genius. Some examples of usage: This line prevmovierefs Raiders of the Lost Ark. This line prevmovierefs Last Crusade. I think it works and sounds great! Did I mention I'm completely mad? Muwahahahahaha!
NoDiggity, you're making this complex to make yourself "right"
by finky089
May 1st, 2008
12:58:44 PM
of course people in the TB aren't going to be confused: we're following the conversation.

my whole point is that making up a new use for the word "callback" is unnecessary. It's a reference to something in an earlier film. If you want to call it a "callback", that's your business. I'm not tellign you to stop. I'm just telling you it's not necessary. I would, however, disagree with you on some of the thigns you see in this new Indy movie that you feel are specific "retreads" or "callbacks" to the the other Indy movies. Some are to be expected (for better or worse) because they already established a precedent for doing that as early as ToD ("no gun for the swordsman" bit.) But some of the ones you have mentioned I just don't see. Let's agree to disagree and leave it at that. I'm not even going to try and change opinions that you're certainly entitled to have.

"Callback" sounds like "shout out".
by NoDiggity
May 1st, 2008
01:04:55 PM
Only you are "shouting out" to previous film moments, or dialogue. "Calling Back" to those moments, or lines. Works for me, and I'm going to keep using it, just to annoy Pazuzu.
Making it up: "Cheadlicious"
by finky089
May 1st, 2008
01:10:34 PM
now, that's a good word we made up here on AICN. And while there will be many people who won't know what it means without any context behind it, it certainly won't confuse anyone due to an already existing meaning. ;)
NoDiggity
by Mr. Nice Gaius
May 1st, 2008
01:12:24 PM
I was actually thinking of giving you some props for the very salient points you made over at CHUD regarding their decision to cancel their version of Talkback.

But I changed my mind.

Oh come on, Nice Gaius.
by NoDiggity
May 1st, 2008
01:14:38 PM
I'll just take that as you having given me props. Thanks.
I guess...
by DocPazuzu
May 1st, 2008
01:15:42 PM
...we all now know where the word came from...
The correct term (for this usage) is: THROWBACK
by Mr. Nice Gaius
May 1st, 2008
01:18:52 PM
As in, NoDiggity (no doubt) believes that Indiana Jones's use of a bullwhip in INDY4 is a throwback to all three previous films.
"you having given me props."
by Mr. Nice Gaius
May 1st, 2008
01:21:14 PM
Nope. I changed my mind.
Cheadlicious
by Abominable Snowcone
May 1st, 2008
01:36:24 PM
Ah, yes...I remember when we used to sing about whether a particular film or actor/ess was Cheadly good.

http://tinyurl.com/32dba9

Mr. Nice. Gaius
by Orcus
May 1st, 2008
02:12:35 PM
Chud link?
The word was first used by Mosquito.
by NoDiggity
May 1st, 2008
02:23:34 PM
The word was first used by Mosquito
by NoDiggity
May 1st, 2008
02:25:13 PM
who actually used it in quotes. "callback". Meaning that it's a new use of the word to him as well. But new words and new uses of words happen all the time. That's why they update dictionaries over time to reflect changes in usage.
Too late, Nice Gaius.
by NoDiggity
May 1st, 2008
02:26:56 PM
You have already confessed to thinking about it. IN YOUR MIND you had already given me props. You can't take that back. And again, thanks.
Orcus
by Mr. Nice Gaius
May 1st, 2008
02:31:01 PM
Good hunting.

http://tinyurl.com/4vhenn

I don't like "Throwback" because it seems less specific.
by NoDiggity
May 1st, 2008
02:31:18 PM
When people talk about something being a "Throwback" they generally mean that it has reverted to a similar style, not specifically intending to remind us of specific moments, or specific dialogue. You generally talk about films being "throwbacks" to the style of films of previous eras.
NoDiggity
by Mr. Nice Gaius
May 1st, 2008
02:35:41 PM
After your bizarrely obsessive display here today, I'm not sure how you were able to be somewhat lucid on the other website. So, I think you'll find my response a throwback to my previous one: NOPE. I CHANGED MY MIND.

Please don't thank me for something that wasn't expressed outright.

OK...how is "callback" more specific?
by Mr. Nice Gaius
May 1st, 2008
02:37:26 PM
Explain. Please.
NoDiggity
by crazyhorse2099
May 1st, 2008
02:46:14 PM

Nice Gaius is totally allowed to take back his "prop giving". It doesn't matter what he thought or when he thought it. He ultimatly decided that you deserved no props. So you get none.

wow, was that the real NoDiggity on CHUD?
by just pillow talk
May 1st, 2008
02:46:32 PM
Wonder how CHUD would feel about discussing "callbacks" on their talkbacks...
If Nice Gaius had wished to NOT give me props ..
by NoDiggity
May 1st, 2008
02:55:26 PM
... he shouldn't have mentioned considering giving me props. And considering it IS giving props, albeit not openly. And he ruined that by openly admitting to considering it. So I'll take that admission, and thank him for it. Thank You Nice Gaius!
Thanks Mr. Nice Gaius
by Orcus
May 1st, 2008
02:55:44 PM
Good read
Well, when you "call back" an actor, during auditions ..
by NoDiggity
May 1st, 2008
02:59:35 PM
... you are calling back a SPECIFIC actor, not asking for peope who are SIMILAR to that actor. So "call back" or "callback" refers to reminding us of specific dialogue or elements of a previous film. This is an example where I would argue that "Throwback" is confusing, since it's general usage is associated with a general STYLE not specific dialogue or elements.
Kate, we have to get baaaaaack!!!
by Motoko Kusanagi
May 1st, 2008
03:01:26 PM
Oh wait, wrong flick!
NoDiggity
by Mr. Nice Gaius
May 1st, 2008
03:04:45 PM
I can't decide if you're more in the habit of making shit up or pulling shit out of your ass. You are a dubious master of nonsensical arguments.
crazyhorse2099 & Orcus
by Mr. Nice Gaius
May 1st, 2008
03:07:45 PM
Thanks and you're welcome!
NoDiggity
by crazyhorse2099
May 1st, 2008
03:18:15 PM

Your logic is absurd. What are you in fourth grade? CONSIDERING something and DOING something are two ENTIRELY different things. Surely you can grasp this, no?

Here's an example for you: I am CONSIDERING killing my boss this afternoon. That doesn't mean I am going to DO it. And it certainly doesn't mean that I DID it. In fact, until I actually DO kill my boss, NOTHING has actually transpired. Because I didn't DO anything. I just THOUGHT about it. Class dismissed.

Come on, Diggity. Now you're making shit up about...
by finky089
May 1st, 2008
03:21:41 PM
...the existing use of the word "callback"?

stop before you dig yourself deeper in.

gotham_night - Have you found a job yet?
by Mr. Nice Gaius
May 1st, 2008
03:22:22 PM
Or, are you clocking in for your next 18 hour troll-shift at AICN?
Call back, throwback, please gentlemen
by strosmer
May 1st, 2008
03:28:07 PM
Prevmovieref is the term to use! Now let's stop all this pointless bickering and be friends. Why, there's a whole slew of great geekfilms in store for us in the coming months. Let's come together and shower the theaters in our man-goo all summer long. If people ask what happened, we'll tell them, "It was ghost. He slimed me."
Oh, pardon me
by strosmer
May 1st, 2008
03:29:47 PM
I meant to say - "It was a ghost." Hope I didn't confuse anyone.
gotham_night, you better get back under your bridge
by crazyhorse2099
May 1st, 2008
03:38:30 PM
I think I hear some billy goats coming.
Prevmovieref!!
by crazyhorse2099
May 1st, 2008
03:39:36 PM
I love it!
gotham_night
by Mr. Nice Gaius
May 1st, 2008
03:47:00 PM
You stupid, stupid person. You don't even know what you're trying to talk about, do you?
Ah yes
by strosmer
May 1st, 2008
03:52:35 PM
The revolution has begun! Who else will join me? Let me provide a good example of the usage of this fine fine term.

Did you notice that line Indy said in the new IJATKOTCS trailer was a prevmovieref to Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom?

Why yes, I did notice that line Indy said in the new IJATKOTCS trailer was a prevmovieref to Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom.

Hmm, perhaps instead of saying Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom, we should say, IJATTOD.

No, I don't like that idea too much. It's silly. It might be a handy abbreviation to use in an AICN talkback though.

What's AICN stand for?

I don't really know, but those prevmoiverefs in the new IJATKOTCS trailer just have me gooin' in my pants.

Oh, I wouldn't say they're that good.

END OF EXAMPLE OF USAGE OF TERM PREVMOVIEREF.

Holy shit, the things I do when I'm bored at work. Catch y'all later. About to go see early showing of Iron Man. Can't wait to see the new IJATKOTCS trailer! Haven't actually watched it yet. Discipline, gentlemen, is the key to happiness.

Crazy Horse, get a life.
by NoDiggity
May 1st, 2008
03:53:42 PM
I'm goofing around with Nice Gaius. Stop taking it all so seriously
Oh, and Crazy Horse, try TELLING your boss that.
by NoDiggity
May 1st, 2008
03:56:35 PM
Try telling him that you are CONSIDERING killing him, and see if he doesn't feel a little offended, even if you don't actually do it.
Funniest talkback in ages.
by DocPazuzu
May 1st, 2008
04:21:50 PM
NoDiggity truly is crazier than a shithouse rat.

What a heroic display of mental masturbation!

Pazuzu ..
by NoDiggity
May 1st, 2008
04:27:31 PM
... when are you EVER going to contribute anything positive? Even a positive comment about the new Indy trailer? Nothing? Zero? Zilch? Nada?

You are such a negative tool.
NoDiggity, calm down, brah. We're all just havin' fun here
by crazyhorse2099
May 1st, 2008
04:34:33 PM
At your expense.
I'm going to officially adopt "Prevmovieref".
by NoDiggity
May 1st, 2008
04:35:03 PM
Because it's way more annoying than "callback".
Actually, NoDiggity...
by DocPazuzu
May 1st, 2008
04:35:48 PM
...I posted a very positive reaction in the last Indy TB.

You're still a fruitcake.

This talkback is a "callback"...
by DocPazuzu
May 1st, 2008
04:44:19 PM
...to every other talkback where NoDiggity got keelhauled. Does that make this talkback a... haulback?
"CALLBAKKKKCCCK"
by Mr. Nice Gaius
May 1st, 2008
04:51:34 PM
Dear God...
love is in the air
by finky089
May 1st, 2008
04:51:55 PM
that was not a "callback" to anything Indy-related was it?
"love is in the air"
by DocPazuzu
May 1st, 2008
05:17:25 PM
Actually, that is a callback to the quiet, father and son bonding moment Indy and Henry Jones Sr. share aboard the zeppelin.
Xiphos
by DocPazuzu
May 1st, 2008
05:25:31 PM
Yes, which is a callback to the recent Iron Man talkback where ringwearer9 went into a frothing rage over how stupid comic fans are for not accepting their precious texts being altered in the movies.
MrGeyser-Ask him if it has Monkeys-
by TomBodet
May 1st, 2008
05:30:58 PM
-and Race-Cars. That'll def. be the real proof you are looking for-
spoilers
by El Borak
May 2nd, 2008
12:43:01 AM
spoilers ........

there are giant ants.
Wow, as if we...
by DocPazuzu
May 2nd, 2008
03:24:16 AM
...needed more proof of how nutty NoDiggity is, look at his comments regarding Gremlins and Gremlins 2 in the Gremlins talkback...

What a fucking asshat.

Oh. My. Fucking. God.
by Lost Jarv
May 2nd, 2008
05:42:19 AM
What on earth happened here. Diggers you have hit new depths of pointy-headedness.

The correct term is surely "reference". As in KOTCS references ROLA by having Indy rescue his hat.

Why the fuck do people feel the need to make up new terms or misapply actual words (FOR THE RECORD ANYONE THAT USES "ACTION" AS A VERB SHALL HAVE THEIR GENITALS CUT OFF AND FED TO A GRABOID. SAME GOES FOR THE WORD "PROACTIVE")? reference will do fine.

I bet you work in middle-management
by Lost Jarv
May 2nd, 2008
05:44:26 AM
Don't you diggers?

Why don't you proactively showcase your analytical skills and action me a 300 word report vis a vis Newt=Jones?

Hey Jarv
by DocPazuzu
May 2nd, 2008
05:54:17 AM
I heard you finally absorbed the genius that is Deathstalker!
Yes and it was everything I hoped it would be
by Lost Jarv
May 2nd, 2008
06:04:46 AM
I nearly threw up laughing.

Although, I struggle to think of my favourite bit, but the pigman fight has to be a contender.

Either that or when he tries to shag the guard disguised as the princess (worst transformation ever filmed). I still maintain that it is the fact that it is all so fucking po-faced that makes it magnificent.

I can't believe that Gremlins comment
by Lost Jarv
May 2nd, 2008
06:06:37 AM
That's part of my reasoning as to why Diggers is in middle managemet.

Probably for a governmnet organisation like the DLV.

My fave bit...
by DocPazuzu
May 2nd, 2008
06:50:18 AM
...is the "manly" death-wrestle between Deathstalker and his foe, shot in soft focus.

As for his female sidekick, that's none other than the late Lana Clarkson who that bastard Phil Spector shot in the face.

A million pencils of torment await his black heart in Hell.

The po-faceness...
by DocPazuzu
May 2nd, 2008
06:55:14 AM
...of Deathstalker is indeed what makes it so great. There is not a trace of self-irony or tongue-in-check present. The jokey feel of Deathstalker 2 is why I hate it so much. Only Monique Gabrielle's amazing (and nude) body saves that one from oblivion.
check = cheek
by DocPazuzu
May 2nd, 2008
06:55:41 AM
Fucking hell...
I like the gaping plot holes
by Lost Jarv
May 2nd, 2008
07:26:12 AM
when he says to the king at the beginning that he isn't going to save the princess and then spends the rest of the movie, erm, saving the princess.

Or the tattoo that keeps moving on the villain's head. And the fact that he keeps his all powerful magic amulet pinned to a wall. Or that Deathstalker has a sword that makes him invulnerable when he is holding it. So he keeps putting it down for no apparent reason.

There's a great drinking game to be constructed out of it.

Where's NoDiggity?
by DocPazuzu
May 2nd, 2008
08:33:42 AM
Must be back on his meds.
I think he's given up
by Lost Jarv
May 2nd, 2008
08:43:15 AM
we're all complete phiistines that will clearly never understand that Gremlins is mean spirited, Indy has a milliner in his entourage and a cat is the same as a 9 year old girl.
maybe his other "self" is at CHUD right now...
by just pillow talk
May 2nd, 2008
08:44:34 AM
http://www.darkhorizons.com/trai lers.php
by wackybantha
May 2nd, 2008
03:32:28 PM
http://www.darkhorizons.com/tr ailers.php
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by Orcus
May 5th, 2008
08:46:27 AM
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