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by Twenty2
Apr 24th, 2008
09:57:35 AM
Willy.
by Henry Jones Sr
Apr 24th, 2008
10:00:15 AM
Has anything Akiva Goldsman worked on not been both commercially
by kesoze4
Apr 24th, 2008
10:01:15 AM
They REALLY need to find a new "big movie go-to guy". Like the new actress, though, she's great.
...viable and really disappointing?
by kesoze4
Apr 24th, 2008
10:02:16 AM
Didn't realize subjects were so short. My bad.
ok i enjoyed the book ....
by JeanLuc Dickhard
Apr 24th, 2008
10:02:29 AM
i had a broken ankle so i read it on the sofa ..... it was ok
After reading both Digital Fortress
by Big Jim
Apr 24th, 2008
10:02:47 AM
and Decpetion Point I have come to the conclusion that Dan Brown is the John Grisham of the Tom Clancy novel.
Naomi Watts?
by DHJeffries
Apr 24th, 2008
10:03:29 AM
I thought that Naomi Watts had secured this role long ago. If she's not going to be in this film, I no longer have any reason to see it, which comes as a great relief.
"Deception" is the proper way to spell it
by Big Jim
Apr 24th, 2008
10:03:55 AM
Was she the one
by Darthkrusty
Apr 24th, 2008
10:05:03 AM
that got shot in the chest with that weird gun on the houseboat in "Munich?"
my favorite dan brown book...
by cyrent
Apr 24th, 2008
10:06:00 AM
hopefully they don't water down the destroying-the-Church plotline...
Is this the one where the Pope is Jack the Ripper?
by tonagan
Apr 24th, 2008
10:10:59 AM
27 days until
by AllieJamison
Apr 24th, 2008
10:13:24 AM
...we'll see the film that's hopefully superior to Da fucking Vinci Code.

by Monkey Butler
Apr 24th, 2008
10:13:55 AM
Only really fucking stupid people enjoy Dan Brown novels. You may have read them, you may have found them mildly diverting, but to enjoy them you need to have just about zero taste in literature.
Hoping....
by mikegator
Apr 24th, 2008
10:19:46 AM
The twist ending was very well done in this novel, and I'm hoping they can nail it perfectly in the movie since it is so complex.
Why?
by krushjudgement
Apr 24th, 2008
10:20:19 AM
Why are Hanks and Howard involved with this pulp crap? I thought they were better than that.
Her hair sorta looks like
by batzilla
Apr 24th, 2008
10:21:18 AM
Eddie Van Halens did back in '78/'79
Yeah, I thought it was Watts too
by Bobo_Vision
Apr 24th, 2008
10:30:41 AM
Which surprised me because I thought she was above this type of tripe. I guess she is.
The first movie was horrendous
by The Chosen
Apr 24th, 2008
10:33:37 AM
Hope they get this one NOT to be boring
This will make a better movie
by Unlabled
Apr 24th, 2008
10:36:06 AM
The ending (assuming they don't change it) will be exceptional. I remember when I first read this book that it would make a kick ass movie.
Will Hanks look extraordinarily bored . . . .
by Nice Marmot
Apr 24th, 2008
10:37:55 AM
. . . and sleepwalk through this one too? I'm amazed that the plot actually involves him teaming up w/ a woman to solve the mystery behind his murder. My wife was already having a hard time getting me to read this damn book . . .
SOME ONE TEACH GOLDSMAN HOW TO WRITE
by JaPra
Apr 24th, 2008
10:50:39 AM
I'm a fan of The Davinci Code book as a purely literate form of making films. Though not great literature, the book was captivating. The film on the other hand was a ridiculous and lazy attempt at filmmaking.

I lay more blame on the writing more then the filmmaking itself. It was absolutely painful to sit through these expository scenes while everything was spelled out so easily for the audience. Akiva Goldsman is lauded for his writing abilities, but they were completely lacking for The Davinci Code.

Ron Howard is a mediocre filmmaker, always playing it safe, never making any film that isn't a feel good crowd pleaser. He tackles his subject matter in such a "gosh golly" way that it eviscerates the blood from the meat.

I will see this film, but with the lowest of expectations.
Hated this book
by Jack Burton
Apr 24th, 2008
10:55:15 AM
Is stopped reading around pg 150 and I rarely give up on books. I flipped forward to see if I was right about the twist, found I was, and then gave the book to someone else. Really poorly written and the dialogue all sounded so fake. My tolerance for junk is high but Angels & Demons was just too much. I did like Deception Point. I thought it would make a great plot for a season of 24.
Akiva Goldsman is a HACK
by Lenny8
Apr 24th, 2008
10:55:49 AM
Always has been. The only reason he's lauded as a writer in Hollywood is because his spell checker is better than most other writers. Meanwhile, isn't that the chick who totally screwed up the second season of DEXTER? Wow, she sucked in that.
Nope, NM -- she's not the Dexter chick
by Lenny8
Apr 24th, 2008
10:56:45 AM
Thank goodness. That actress should be barred from working anywhere, ever again.
Eddie Van Halen f'ing rocks
by Atticus Finch
Apr 24th, 2008
10:58:37 AM
He totally revolutionized the guitar with his tap-and-roll technique.
Akiva Goldsman is the Uwe Boll of script writing.
by ZeroCorpse
Apr 24th, 2008
11:15:04 AM
Goddamn, why do they keep giving that hack any jobs? This is a person who is constantly drawn on to write screenplay adaptions from books, and who NEVER SEEMS TO READ THE FUCKING BOOKS before writing the screenplay. I've NEVER seen a screenplay writer so consistent in his failure to UTTERLY MISS THE POINT of the books he's adapting.

On the other hand, this is a Dan Brown book, and Dan Brown is a hack, too. The only people that dig Dan Brown books are people who start their reviews of his books with "I don't normally like reading, but..."

i thought this book
by redfishbluefish
Apr 24th, 2008
11:15:47 AM
was kinda crappy, but i did always think Benicio Del Toro would be great as the charismatic big baddie.
Correction-- "his failure to utterly miss the point"
by ZeroCorpse
Apr 24th, 2008
11:18:18 AM
I meant "his ability to UTTERLY MISS THE POINT" -- That'll teach me to write before having caffeine.
Alli
by just pillow talk
Apr 24th, 2008
11:21:16 AM
Dr. Jones shall not disappoint. I hope!
Better than the sequel
by Sithdan
Apr 24th, 2008
11:24:22 AM
Angels and Demons was far more enjoyable for than The Da Vinci Code. It has much more action and is more filmable as a movie than Da Vinci was. All that symbololgy and cryptology
Yes
by Darth WickedChicken
Apr 24th, 2008
11:24:33 AM
Because The Da Vinci Code was such a roller coaster ride of YAWN!
The pigf**kers will eat this up...
by Kid Z
Apr 24th, 2008
11:25:52 AM
...because it's so pro-christer. It's also preposterous bullshit for anyone with over an 8th grade knowledge of basic scientific principles, but the trailer trash demographic will never figure that out.
SAME FUCKING PLOT. Seriously. It is.
by AdrianVeidt
Apr 24th, 2008
11:40:18 AM
And the chick wants to be Anne Hathaway.
Let the coutdown to the Vatican & various catholic's groups crys
by Yeti
Apr 24th, 2008
12:10:16 PM
And by various I mean the Catholic Anti-Defamation League or as they're also known "Hypocrites-R-Us"
Right, because Hanks has that fit, swimmer body
by Prague23
Apr 24th, 2008
12:14:07 PM
Ahem(iscast)
Will probably be rubbish
by DirkD13"
Apr 24th, 2008
12:30:10 PM
Because of Richie Cunnigham the "fire" death will be shite (when it's really quite fuckiest uppiest), and this film will be 12A, or PG13 if you're in the USA.

Really wanted Monica Bellucci in this role, then again, I think she should star in every film.

As for Jaime Murray (the hot chick who can't act from Dexter S2) she should be in films, you know, the ones that need a box of tissues to enjoy properly.

First...from the bottom
by donwillymo
Apr 24th, 2008
12:37:57 PM
yeah, wat!?
Goooooooooo DEMONS!!!!!
by donwillymo
Apr 24th, 2008
12:38:21 PM
DaVinci Code was crap
by kwisatzhaderach
Apr 24th, 2008
12:42:25 PM
Ron Howard is a mediocre director.
I had a sidekick once.
by mrfan
Apr 24th, 2008
01:02:33 PM
Kicked his sorry ass to the curb. Made one of the Busted Tees ladies as my new one. Haven't regretted it since.
Meh.
by Motoko Kusanagi
Apr 24th, 2008
01:06:44 PM
Couldn't they find a girl more boinkable?
I just wanna know something...
by Datascream
Apr 24th, 2008
01:24:24 PM
If this is what happenes before Da Vinci Code, then why wasn't this movie done FIRST!? Why should I watch a movie then have to watch ANOTHER movie to get the back story of the character to see how it leads up to the story we all REALLY wanna see anyways? It's like I'm taking crazy pills!!
Don't blame Goldsman
by Sithdan
Apr 24th, 2008
01:27:14 PM
He was following Joel Schumacher's orders on Batman & Robin. Schumacher wanted camp and Goldsman gave him camp.
Did someone just say Bat-nipples?
by jimmy rabbitte
Apr 24th, 2008
01:30:27 PM
In a world where "Eragon" is a success...
by Stalin vs Predator
Apr 24th, 2008
01:48:05 PM
...is it really surprising that so is Dan Brown? Instead of touching his trash, take a look e.g. at "Gabriel Knight III" for a really skilled and involving take on the story of one corrupt priest "reimagined" as a conspiracy adventure.
Tamar Teifeld from Paramount is hotter!
by Dick Bahls
Apr 24th, 2008
01:59:01 PM
Enjoyed this book better than Da Vinci Code
by versatol
Apr 24th, 2008
02:10:44 PM
However, that part at the end with the whole jumping out of the plane was a little crazy
Deception Point would make a better movie.
by SUPERJIM
Apr 24th, 2008
02:12:37 PM
They will only fuck the shit out of Angels and Demons like the did Da Vinci Code. What was the shite on the bus where they use that guy's phone? would have taken about the same amount of time to not change the story and get him in the library. Do you think they will adapt deception point to have Robert Langdon in it? When reading that i pictured the main character as him from the Invasion TV show, Russell was it? Anyway.
Thanks Piltdown Joey
by Darthkrusty
Apr 24th, 2008
02:21:17 PM
Only saw Munich once in theatre. Enjoyed Marie J-C's nudity even though it was a tense & violent scene. Also agree Monica Bellucci would be good in this & should be a Bond girl.
EPIC FAIL.
by Kid Idioteque
Apr 24th, 2008
02:24:50 PM
No one asked for this movie. NO ONE. It could very well kill the careers of everyone involved. Wait... didn't the Da Vinci Code already do that?
Da Vinci Code was sooo fucking boring
by Cruel_Kingdom
Apr 24th, 2008
02:25:52 PM
Goldsman is a gifted writer
by Sithdan
Apr 24th, 2008
02:26:03 PM
His "A Beautiful Mind" and "Cinderella Man" scripts were great. And Dan Brown's novels, although not factually accurate, are definite page-turners. Both of these scribes are talented, love them or hate them. Most of the comments posted by this board's large contingent of 13-year-old minds and bodies are asinine.
Hilarious
by Big_Daddy_Nero
Apr 24th, 2008
03:19:36 PM
A bunch of microcephalic losers calling Dan Brown a hack.. true enough, the movie version of TDVC was a huge let-down. Same people making this one, same potential for crappiness. But as for you twits who sit in this hole and snidely dismiss Dan Brown, you just need to do one thing: open up your checkbook. Look at it. Now pretend you are looking at Dan Brown's checkbook. Then cry. Does making a bajillion dollars make Dan Brown the greatest author ever? Of course not. However, neither does a bunch of pathetic weenies sitting in an anonymous forum calling him a hack MAKE him a hack either.
When reading Deception Point
by Big Jim
Apr 24th, 2008
03:27:19 PM
for the lead guy I pictured George Clooney, and for his scientist buddy I imagined Bob Balaban.
Wouldn't this work better as...
by KillerTomato
Apr 24th, 2008
03:31:49 PM
A season of 24? If I recall correctly, the original concept of 24 was NOT to have Kiefer save the world season after season, but to have different stories whose only common theme was that they took place over the course of 24 hours. Since this book was structured in much the same way, it seems like it'd be a natural fit.
We need another Ron Howard comedy.
by Lance Rocke
Apr 24th, 2008
03:35:19 PM
Heeth juth tho theeeeeeeriuth theeeth dayth
Da Vinci Was WAS Very boring...
by BigTuna
Apr 24th, 2008
03:47:14 PM
Howard was clearly the wrong director. There was just no thrills or suspense in any scene. It just draged on and on.
any word on brown's next book?
by lucid dreamstate
Apr 24th, 2008
03:50:07 PM
i understand what it's supposed to be about, i am just curious if anyone has heard a release date. dan brown is a good writer. he is one of the best writers that i have ever read. not everyone can get into the subject matter and that is understandable. he can set up a thriller as good as anyone that i have read.
These should be B movies
by Larry of Arabia
Apr 24th, 2008
03:57:40 PM
"Angels and Demons" especially. These aren't serious books. Templar conspiracy theorists latched on to one and made it a hit. This just isn't A-List material. They are patently ridiculous and totally over the top but largely entertaining. The films should be full of Hey-I-Know-That-Guys having a ball and playing to type, with maybe one minor A lister slumming and enjoying themselves.
Lucid
by Sithdan
Apr 24th, 2008
03:57:47 PM
I've read "The Solomon Key" is supposed to be released in 2008 (according to Wikipedia), but there's no specific date. I would imagine by Christmas time to cash in on those holiday dollars.
KillerTomato, I seem to remember the producers
by Big Jim
Apr 24th, 2008
03:59:42 PM
of 24 tried to get the rights to one of Dan Brown's novels (Angels & Demons would make sense but I think it was Da Vinci Code). Brown rejected the idea in favour of holding out for a feature film adaptation.
Where's the new INDY4 Trailer?
by Orionsangels
Apr 24th, 2008
04:00:53 PM
We're almost in May. I mean the movies almost here. We've only had a teaser trailer. I want that final trailer.
sithdan
by lucid dreamstate
Apr 24th, 2008
04:04:32 PM
thanks. for some reason the official dan brown website has not updated in quite a while. i like the name the solomon key and i wish he could have released it before the national treasure films ran with his ideas. oh well.
That ANGEL is bringing out my DEMON
by Puddleglum
Apr 24th, 2008
04:11:25 PM
me likey Ayelet
the book
by novembre13
Apr 24th, 2008
04:12:48 PM
this was as bad as "davinci code"... same general story, same character types, same bland, expository dialogue from out of nowhere. and the movie will be a piece of garbage too. and stop whining for more trailers and just wait for the goddam movie to come out. jesus god, people, have some fucking patience! stop devouring movies like they're fucking hot pockets!!
Whaada loada bullerks!!!!
by 69DUDE
Apr 24th, 2008
04:19:51 PM
Fack all this!! I watched that Da Vinshee crapfest and I nearly turned inside out wiv boredom!! It was just people talking their nuts orf in different places for nearly 3 hours. And wot de 'ell was all that abaat with dat bird? She was jesus' daughter? huh-what?? a) she'd be about a jabillion years old and b) why couldn't she work a miracle and turn that movie into something other than a rancid vagina spillage. Or maybe make Ron Howard talented? Cunningham!!!!! Yeah, shoulda stuck being Henry Winkler's 'winkler' if ya know what I mean!! Twot. Got ginger hair too, which means he's half-satan. Either way, we don't need more of this nor do we need more of Tom Hanks' mullet. Who's he think he is? Eddie Van Halen with that haircut? I dont think so. And that bird up there whose supposed to be in this new one..she'd better get her arse out that's all I'm sayin. Make it worth downloading.
gotham_night
by novembre13
Apr 24th, 2008
04:27:30 PM
actually, this story came first...it has to do with the illuminati... the best thing about the book are the cryptograms inside; words that are written in an artsy way so's they read the same right side up or upside down...
Its about Science vs. Religion
by Bobo_Vision
Apr 24th, 2008
04:31:15 PM
It follows pretty much the same formula as The Davinci Code, only with a different theme. It was entertaining overall, but like someone earlier pointed out, it wasn't high literature. Its like pulp. So the thing is, when they take a pulp novel, and dumb it down in movie form like the film version of "Davinci Code", it becomes so thin and diluted that there's practically no substance there, because there's little to begin with in terms of the novel.
Big Jim, yeah, I know...
by KillerTomato
Apr 24th, 2008
04:42:41 PM
I read that somewhere, too. I was just asking from a simple story-structure standpoint. Smart of Brown to hold out for the movie $$$. And Lucid, I'm afraid I have to disagree. "Readable" doesn't equate to "good." Dan Brown has a great sense for pacing (making his books the very definition of "page-turners"), but the quality of the writing is, in my opinion, pretty poor. Not, say, "Left Behind" poor, but still bad.
killer tomato
by lucid dreamstate
Apr 24th, 2008
05:00:42 PM
in my opinion, brown is a great writer. better than just "readable". i know that 95 percent of the people that post on these talkbacks are just here to rip the subject of each post. i don't care if i am the only person on here that likes brown's work. in fact, the stuff i like is usually trashed on here. i could give a shit. personally , i have no problem with the first film and i will gladly check out this one too. i never even wrote the word "readable" in my original posts. why do i take the bait? okay everyone, trash every single talkback thread. is anything cool on this website? i like the movies that are discussed at aicn( for the most part).
Let's have Lee Child's KILLING FLOOR already
by finky089
Apr 24th, 2008
05:07:39 PM
this Dan Brown stuff is okay, but it's for lightweights
i haven't read lee child
by lucid dreamstate
Apr 24th, 2008
05:08:37 PM
is he good?
HOBBIT UPDATE RE: DEL TORO & 2 PIX
by stuntman mikey
Apr 24th, 2008
05:50:29 PM
Havent seen this posted yet!! Guillermo del Toro to direct 'Hobbit' Filmmaker signs on to film and its sequel By DAVE MCNARYMore Articles: Deluxe returns to New York roots MPAA, RIAA going steady with ISPs Indie, studio films at Newport Beach fest Newport Beach offers luxury retreats Family series spotlights young talent O.C. proud to be 'Hollywood South' Special Report: Jimmy Kimmel Live: 1,000th Episode In a major step forward on "The Hobbit," Guillermo del Toro has signed on to direct the New Line-MGM tentpole and its sequel. The widely expected announcement came Thursday afternoon jointly from exec producers Peter Jackson and Fran Walsh, New Line president Toby Emmerich and Mary Parent, the newly named chief of MGM's Worldwide Motion Picture Group. Del Toro's moving to New Zealand for the next four years to work with Jackson and his Wingnut and WETA production teams. He'll direct the two films back to back, with the sequel which will deal with the 60-year period between "The Hobbit" and "The Fellowship of the Ring," the first of the "Lord of the Rings" trilogy. New Line is overseeing development and will manage production. Both pics are being co-produced and co-financed by New Line Cinema and MGM, with Warner Bros. distributing domestically and MGM handling international. Del Toro most recently helmed "Pan's Labyrinth," released through New Line's Picturehouse. The fantasy set a record as the highest grossing Spanish language film in U.S. box office history.
REPOST RE: HOBBIT
by stuntman mikey
Apr 24th, 2008
05:51:25 PM
Guillermo del Toro to direct 'Hobbit' Filmmaker signs on to film and its sequel By DAVE MCNARY In a major step forward on "The Hobbit," Guillermo del Toro has signed on to direct the New Line-MGM tentpole and its sequel. The widely expected announcement came Thursday afternoon jointly from exec producers Peter Jackson and Fran Walsh, New Line president Toby Emmerich and Mary Parent, the newly named chief of MGM's Worldwide Motion Picture Group. Del Toro's moving to New Zealand for the next four years to work with Jackson and his Wingnut and WETA production teams. He'll direct the two films back to back, with the sequel which will deal with the 60-year period between "The Hobbit" and "The Fellowship of the Ring," the first of the "Lord of the Rings" trilogy. New Line is overseeing development and will manage production. Both pics are being co-produced and co-financed by New Line Cinema and MGM, with Warner Bros. distributing domestically and MGM handling international. Del Toro most recently helmed "Pan's Labyrinth," released through New Line's Picturehouse. The fantasy set a record as the highest grossing Spanish language film in U.S. box office history.
WES SNIPES SENTENCED TO THREE YEARS FOR TAX EVASION
by toxicbuddha
Apr 24th, 2008
05:58:04 PM
check it on cnn.com
By the Way
by stroker08
Apr 24th, 2008
05:59:23 PM
Del Toro has been confirmed for both Hobbit movies http://www.stuff.co.nz/4496833 a10.html
They said they're making an example of Snipes...
by Bobo_Vision
Apr 24th, 2008
06:01:38 PM
...to deter tax crimes amongst the general public. Sucks for him. I don't know the details, but the only celebrities I know of being jailed for tax evasion are Snipes (a black guy), and the winner of the first Survivor (a gay guy).
Slow
by stroker08
Apr 24th, 2008
06:02:54 PM
Is it me or are these guys slow to post breaking news these days?
So what's that mean for Saturn?
by waggy
Apr 24th, 2008
06:17:27 PM
I thought that movie sounded awesome (the one about the kid walking to the grocery store and back during the apocalypse), but I'll take Del Toro Hobbit movies too. Oh and Dan Brown sucks.
What's the plot of this?
by Geekgasm
Apr 24th, 2008
06:36:54 PM
Mohammed the prophet of Islam is a cocksucking homosexual? Cuz I would sooooo pay $8.50 to see that.
And don't worry about Snipes
by Geekgasm
Apr 24th, 2008
06:38:01 PM
all he has to do is sit tight til January and Obama will give him a full pardon. POWER TO THE PEOPLE! KILL WHITIE! BLACK POWER! BLACK POWER! BLACK POWER!
Wesley Snipes goes to jail!
by Trazadone
Apr 24th, 2008
06:46:30 PM
OCALA, Florida (CNN) -- Actor Wesley Snipes was sentenced to three years in prison and fined up to $5 million Thursday for failing to file federal tax returns. Wesley Snipes, sentenced to three years in prison, starred in "Blade," "Major League" and "Murder at 1600." 1 of 2 It was the maximim sentence possible under federal sentencing guidelines. Prosecutors last week urged U.S. District Judge William Hodges in Ocala, Florida, to sentence Snipes to the maximum penalty to demonstrate to taxpayers that refusal to pay income taxes carries severe penalties. "The law is very clear: People must pay their taxes," Internal Revenue Service Commissioner Douglas Shulman said. "There is no secret formula that eliminates a person's tax obligations." Snipes was convicted on three misdemeanor counts of failure to file federal income tax returns. Snipes, who has starred in movies such as "Blade," "Major League" and "Murder at 1600," had been charged with felony conspiracy counts for participating in a scheme that rejects the legal foundation of the tax system. However, a jury accepted his argument that he was innocently duped by errant tax advisers and acquitted him on the most serious charges. "The fact that Snipes was acquitted on two felony charges and convicted 'only' on three misdemeanor counts has been portrayed in the mainstream media as a 'victory' for Snipes," the government document says. "The troubling implication of such coverage for the millions of average citizens who are aware of this case is that the rich and famous Wesley Snipes has 'gotten away with it.' In the end, the criminal conduct of Snipes must not be seen in such a light." Don't Miss Actor, TV judges write court Feds seek the max (pdf) Defense asks for probation (pdf) Assistant Attorney General Nathan Hochman, head of the Justice Department's Tax Division, has promised to beef up the government's efforts to pursue those engaged in a variety of schemes making legal assertions that income taxes are either voluntary or unconstitutional. "For nearly a decade, Snipes has engaged in a campaign of criminal tax conduct combining brazen defiance with insidious concealment," the prosecutors say. "By these means, Snipes has escaped paying more than $15 million in income tax to the IRS and has pursued an intended fraudulent harm to the United States Treasury of more than $41 million." The document says Snipes shipped millions of dollars to accounts in Switzerland, Antigua and the Isle of Man to avoid taxes. "Given defendant's income, earning capacity, and financial resources, both disclosed and undisclosed, the United States submits that a fine of at least $5 million is warranted," the sentencing recommendation says. The 35-page argument for the stiffest possible penalty ends with a dramatic flair. "In the defendant Wesley Snipes, the court is presented with a wealthy, famous and inveterate tax scofflaw. If ever a tax offender was deserving of being held accountable to the maximum extent for his criminal wrongdoing, Snipes is that defendant," it says. The IRS is also seeking repayment of all taxes and interest through civil court proceedings.
that chick is homely
by Trazadone
Apr 24th, 2008
06:47:01 PM
someone had to say it
When will Hollywood make tax-evasion movies?
by Pops Freshemeyer
Apr 24th, 2008
06:51:16 PM
I know I'd love to see a movie that shows the plight of overpaid, untalented celebrities who are villified by the government because they didn't pay their income tax. Maybe we can even get a cameo by Willie Nelson...
Hey Moh
by Bobo_Vision
Apr 24th, 2008
07:06:44 PM
Thats a nice google list of "celebrities" you've got there, but I haven't heard of any of them. I seriously doubt you heard of most of them either before you googled them. As for Cage and Nelson, if they do 3 years in prison for tax evasion, I'll issue you a formal apology. Until then, yeah, I'm saying they're making an example of a famous black man.
to be completely honest ...
by Geekgasm
Apr 24th, 2008
07:08:56 PM
... I probably wouldn't pay $8.50 to see a movie about Mohammed the prophet of Islam being a cocksucking homosexual. I'd wait til Falcon released the gay porn version of the same movie, and then I'd rent that for $3.50 - assuming the guy playing Mohammed was hot.
Bobo_Vision
by Geekgasm
Apr 24th, 2008
07:13:56 PM
a convicted famous black man - unless of course you think his conviction was a Jew conspiracy. but be fair - did you read the wingnut shit Snipes testified to? He's making a zillion times more money than you and me put together and he's relying on some crackpot advice to keep from paying his "fair share" of the loot. Boo fucking hoo. Let him cool his greedy arrogant heels in the clink for a few months.
One more thing...
by Bobo_Vision
Apr 24th, 2008
07:14:45 PM
...I'm not making up the fact that they're making an example of Snipes. This is what the Prosecutors are reported to have asked the court to do.

by Geekgasm
Apr 24th, 2008
07:14:55 PM
crazy Jews, Christians, Buddhists, Athiests blow up far fewer people on average though.
Geekgasm
by Bobo_Vision
Apr 24th, 2008
07:21:53 PM
I don't share the whole "eat the rich" mentality. Though I may be liberal, I think if you've worked hard and made a fortune, more power to you. Money management is a huge problem for celebrities. Many of them go bankrupt because of taking bad advice from self-interested parasites posing as advisors and friends, but sometimes the result is worse.

Plus, there are a lot of corporate white collar criminals who are doing far more eggregious things than Snipes ever did, yet they walk the streets free because they are part of the system and pay off the right people.

Hey Moh
by Bobo_Vision
Apr 24th, 2008
07:38:56 PM
An accountant for 15 years? That would mean you're at least in your mid-thirties. I would never have guessed. Are you this charming in person, or is this your behind-the-computer persona? With all your infantile name-calling, I wouldn't have thought you were older than 17, and thats giving you credit. But no one would lie about being an accountant. You got a wife and kids? Are you a daddy? Thats freakin' scary if you are.
FAIL!
by Maniaq
Apr 24th, 2008
07:41:48 PM
Dan Brown's books make for good PULP fiction and maybe (just maybe) they could translate well to film in the right director's hands.

No doubt the producers thought those hands belonged to Howard because he managed to make mathematics semi interesting in Beautiful Mind - except that was Russell Crowe doing that, not Howard. If you have any doubts about Crowe's acting ability, watch The Insider.

The problem with Howard giving Brown's books the Beautiful Mind treatment is - with Hanks on board instead of a decent actor (Brown himself made no secret he wanted Harrison Ford) - the 90% preachy fucking "history" lesson that Brown uses as filler in his books ends up translating to film like dogshit translates to High Art. If you look hard enough you can probably find some meaning there, but most people just see a pile of shit...

So yeah this story has almost exactly the same plot as DVC, except with a little less conversation and a little more action - but if the same people are going to be doing it then we are just going to see the same pile of shit on the Big Screen.

And yes the saddest part (at least for the rest of us) is that this film will likely make a great big pile of money out of that pile of shit, too...

"Jews, Christians, Buddhists (to a lesser extent), and Athiests
by Geekgasm
Apr 24th, 2008
07:44:49 PM
Absolutely true. But being self-centered, I'm really only concerned about the present day dangers that can kill me or make my life miserable. I'm sure the Aztecs and the Phoenecians and the Sumerians were also responsible for horrible things in the name of their religions too, but their not on my tits now, so please forgive my unwillingness to take the long contextual view of the theological and political Rubick's Cube that is Islam. And I know I can ask your forgiveness without you cutting my head off with a rusty pair of left-handed pinking shears.
That's a shame...
by NubtheSquirrel
Apr 24th, 2008
07:48:32 PM
I had hoped they would cast Monica Bellucci as the female lead. If they get Naveen Andrews as the Hassasin I'll be pleased. Somehow I doubt that will happen. Howard has been letting us down as of late. It truly is a shame...
"Hanks ... instead of a decent actor "
by Geekgasm
Apr 24th, 2008
07:50:51 PM
oh come on now, Hanks is a "decent actor" - he was just wrong for that part
if you haven't tried it ...
by Geekgasm
Apr 24th, 2008
07:59:02 PM
... don't knock butt-fucking. But if you've tried it and don't like it, that's a different story.
Only on AICN....
by Bobo_Vision
Apr 24th, 2008
08:03:54 PM
...can you by lectured about making generalizations about race and homosexuality by someone using the screenname "Mohammed was a butt-fucking pedophile". I can that racism and homophobia are near and dear to his heart.

I know the reason you didn't answer my question, Moh, about having a wife and kids is because you don't. Its a vicious cycle, eh Moh. You're angry and frustrated because you can't meet a woman, and you can't meet a woman because you're so angry and frustrated. Hopefully this talkback helps you a little, but in your advancing years, you should really try to meet a woman.

If anyone wants to see the new Dark Knight poster...
by McFly in the Ointment
Apr 24th, 2008
09:39:07 PM
Go to SuperHeroHype.com. Or, wait til it shows up on this site in two days. McFly
Sithdan: Akiva had two good scripts.
by ZeroCorpse
Apr 24th, 2008
11:27:09 PM
Sure, he gave us "A Beautiful Mind" and "A Time to Kill" and even "Cinderella Man", but then he spent the rest of his career giving us:

Batman & Robin

Starsky & Hutch

I Am Legend (and it's shitty miss-the-point endings)

Da Vinci Code

I, Robot

Lost in Space

Batman Forever

Deep Blue Sea

Constantine

. . .

Now, maybe he's just NOT cut out for adapting novels into screenplays. And maybe "A Beautiful Mind" and a few others were the EXCEPTIONS, not the rule. If you look at the man's record, his work is about 80% awful.

One good story doesn't excuse a dozen awful ones. I'm sorry. He's terrible. But at least in the case of Dan Brown books, Akiva's at about the right level.

How anybody can screw up a great short novella like "I Am Legend" is beyond me. It's all right there! The graphic novel managed to give a perfect storyboard for the movie, and yet Goldsman manages to not only mangle the setting, protagonist, and antagonists of the book, but he also MISSED THE ENTIRE POINT OF THE STORY.

I don't even think I need to remind you how absolutely mind-numbingly PAINFUL his "Batman & Robin" script was, do I? Akiva is responsible for EVERY SINGLE BAD LINE OF DIALOGUE in that shitstorm of a movie.

He's a hack who had a couple LUCKY moments where he actually wrote a halfway decent story, and a good director turned it into a good movie.

ALRIGHT!
by Series7
Apr 24th, 2008
11:32:42 PM
A sequel to the worst movie ever made! Thank god for idiots!
Sequel not prequel
by G8kpr
Apr 25th, 2008
12:01:30 AM
From my understanding, even though Angels and Demons came first before Da Vinci Code, it is being filmed as a Sequel. That fact has me worried. I agree Ron Howard and Tom Hanks were poor choices for this movie. Lets hope they learned from their mistakes. Having said all that, I did mildly enjoy the Da Vinci code, nowhere near an amazing film (as it could have been) but it wasn't completely horrendous as some say. I give it a "so-so".
what a load of ignorant bigoted horseshit
by Lost Jarv
Apr 25th, 2008
04:57:54 AM
"Internationally, however, most Muslims will stab you to death for a truthful documentary and riot over fucking unproven rumor".

Let me guess, you live in a one horse town where the town has died somewhere in middle America, don't own a passport and have a waistline currently approaching equator?

Or am I generalising based on a stereotype.

Dickhead. It's no wonder you get banned.

really? they're doing it as a SEQUEL?
by Maniaq
Apr 25th, 2008
06:41:53 AM
I guess they just can't keep pretending Hanks ain't an old fart...

hey when you OWN the property, you can do whatever the fuck you like with it, right? Look at what Mel Gibson did with Payback...

Seriously, the first one was the first time I felt Tom Hanks
by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks
Apr 25th, 2008
08:48:40 AM
had dropped the ball and gone for the money. I was used to it with Opie.
Can't wait for this
by BBSloth
Apr 27th, 2008
09:44:23 PM
This will be awesome, as long as they use the Ambigrams and and the whole Illuminati vs Catholic Church plot. Angels & Demons is far better than DaVinci Code....they should have made this film first.
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