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An Interesting Hint About The Next SUPERMAN Film?? Presuming There Is One...

lift things..in ANGER! by just pillow talk	Apr 24th, 2008 08:32:04 AM
Let the battle begin!
Get rid of the son.... by BanAllFIRSTPosters	Apr 24th, 2008 08:32:39 AM
please.
THIRD! by Chadley BeBay	Apr 24th, 2008 08:34:34 AM
Wow, my dream of being first is slowly coming true! Superman not too cool, btw
Superman gets pissed and starts wrecking havoc by GibsonUSA	Apr 24th, 2008 08:36:15 AM
That'd be awesome.
such a non story by Rupee88	Apr 24th, 2008 08:37:55 AM
must be a slow news week
He ends up in the hospital again? by Spacesheik	Apr 24th, 2008 08:40:17 AM
Also lots of stalking former girlfriends and getting beaten up by homophobic thugs is also featured. The new 165 minute movie will include a 3 minute action sequence involving Superman lifting a rock.
My kids by secretcylon	Apr 24th, 2008 08:40:19 AM
really like Superman Returns. I've tried to watch it with them on many occasions, but I've never drifted away from a movie so many times and so consistently. I've seen the beginning and end of that movie many times but I don't think I've ever seen "the middle." It's a very strange, muddled, boring movie. The Kevin Spacey scenes are terrible.
Smallville--THE MOVIE by batjac	Apr 24th, 2008 08:40:29 AM
Cannot possibly see how a movie with the Smallville cast could not be better than Superman Returns. Everything about it was bad--from the bad suit, bad- no terrible- Brandon Routh, hack director- hey Singer, how's that Tom Cruise movie coming?, the worst Lois Lane in the history of Superman, the way off base son of Superman, no real villain to fight, the overdone religious symbolism, and last and least--Kevin Spacey whose portrayal of Luthor made Gene Hackman look like Lawrence Olivier. Here's an idea DC--Live action JLA new Frontier sequel.
Paradise Lost: The Movie by PotSmokinAlien	Apr 24th, 2008 08:42:22 AM
"Particularly interested in the story arc of Lucifer." That sounds like an idea from a Christopher Guest film.
Hancock Preview by BanAllFIRSTPosters	Apr 24th, 2008 08:42:27 AM
at this link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =Q1hsKYtez4w
why make a sequal to that crummy Superman? by Groothewarrior	Apr 24th, 2008 08:42:41 AM

Please, please, please... by UltimaRex	Apr 24th, 2008 08:44:40 AM
Let the "angry god" be Darkseid. Plus (said before, said again and will say forever) YOU CANNOT KILL A KID IN A SUPERMAN MOVIE!
Stalker Superman to Angry God Superman by cowboyone	Apr 24th, 2008 08:46:03 AM
Sounds like the Dark Knight story arc. WTF? Thats' too easy ... and completely out of character. I dunno why they can't seem to get this right. There is great material that can be culled into some really fun, spectacular stuff.
DevilCat Hit It. Brad Bird and Bruce Timm by cowboyone	Apr 24th, 2008 08:48:12 AM
That'd be spectacular. Then the studio wouldn't feel so compelled to "darken and modernize" the character.
They've already screwed up this franchise by justgetreal	Apr 24th, 2008 08:48:38 AM
I mean come on. Where did the continuity go? Superman can lift a rock the size of Rhode Island, even if it's filled with kryptonite? Somehow, a piece of kryptonite on a chain around his neck shouldn't be able to incapacitate him to the point of drowning. Fuck. Just bring back Richard Pryor and that stupid fucking computer, why don't you?
YOU CANNOT KILL A KID IN A SUPERMAN MOVIE! by UltimaRex	Apr 24th, 2008 08:48:59 AM
Worth saying again. You all know some idiot will say it. "Duh... Kill the kid. Duh...."
Puny Supes. Hulk SMASH! by Dr Gregory House	Apr 24th, 2008 08:49:22 AM

justgetreal... by UltimaRex	Apr 24th, 2008 08:50:47 AM
One word: Bedrock.
YOU CANNOT KILL A KID IN A SUPERMAN MOVIE! by UltimaRex	Apr 24th, 2008 08:52:41 AM
Just a few more times. Promise.
The Angry God Concept Ain't Bad by uppercanuck	Apr 24th, 2008 08:53:30 AM
I could see it work, assuming his anger is derived from something like harm coming to Jason or Lois & Richard putting lead siding over their house.
Get rid of Singer! by Laserhead	Apr 24th, 2008 08:57:06 AM
And Super-baby! And Gay-Stalker-Liar-Superman. And Lois-I-start-sleeping with-another-guy-and-tell-him- it's-his-kid-as-soon-as-you-di sappear-for-a -day Lane.
Reboot it just like with the Hulk... by lynxpro	Apr 24th, 2008 08:57:22 AM
Take the best elements of Smallville, ditch the bad, and bring it to the big screen. Ditch Singer and everyone else that was involved in the previous outing.
I loved Superman Returns by Stuntman Joe	Apr 24th, 2008 08:57:25 AM
I have no idea why everyone hates this movie. I have been a huge Superman fan since seeing the first one when I was 5 years old and I think that this one hit all the right notes. Yes it is slow but so is a good meal. I hope Brian Singer gets to make another Superman movie and if he does, I'll be first in line.
"something like harm coming to Jason" by UltimaRex	Apr 24th, 2008 09:00:17 AM
Thumbing the nerve, thumbing the- Who am I kidding? That's acceptable.
and by batjac	Apr 24th, 2008 09:01:03 AM
likely the only person in line. At least you'll get a good seat.
You can stop with the "gay Superman" thing too... by UltimaRex	Apr 24th, 2008 09:03:38 AM
Watch SR again and tell me Superman is gay. I dare you.
Sorry Mr. Singer, I'm looking forward to this about as much... by redtom	Apr 24th, 2008 09:04:38 AM
...as I am looking forward to my triple root canal next week i.e. not a whole lot...
batjac by Stuntman Joe	Apr 24th, 2008 09:04:39 AM
Oh man... I hope so.
since when does Legendary get a say in story direction? by waggy	Apr 24th, 2008 09:05:32 AM
I was under the impression that all they did was put up the money, and Warners made all the creative decisions.
YOU CANNOT HAVE HOT ANAL ACTION IN A SUPERMAN MOVIE! by rev_skarekroe	Apr 24th, 2008 09:07:14 AM
But you can dream. Oh, how you can dream!
Maybe they're bringing back . . . by Nice Marmot	Apr 24th, 2008 09:08:23 AM
. . . the evil Superman from SupermanIII w/ the slightly darker red cape. Bowling alley owners beware . . .
Jeeze, Superman Returns wasn't that bad by Sithdan	Apr 24th, 2008 09:09:28 AM
Everyone makes Superman Returns out to be like Godzilla '98 or Batman & Robin. It wasn't that unwatchable. I was glad just to see Superman back on the big screen. The only thing I really found wrong about it was its lack of action. It needed to be testosteroned up a little bit. Other than that, it was a solid Superman film.
Batjac... by UltimaRex	Apr 24th, 2008 09:09:53 AM
SR, Opening day, London IMAX and the place was packed! I'll bet MOS will be packed too. Quit speaking for the human race.
We Need Emo Superman... by KosherWookie	Apr 24th, 2008 09:09:59 AM
Half the flick will be him trying to figure out how to cut himself. Soundtrack to include Johnny Cash's cover of 'I Hurt Myself Today.'
Bring Back Nuclear Man! by I_Snake_Plissken	Apr 24th, 2008 09:12:17 AM
Can you imagine how much better Superman’s “Great Wall of China” vision would be if it were updated based on today’s special effects? He could rebuild the wall in half the time it took in Superman IV.
Actually that sounds like a good idea by CherryValance	Apr 24th, 2008 09:13:55 AM
If I was Superman (or God for that matter) I'd be pissed at how much people suck. As long as the kid gets crucified, I'm all for it.
rev_skarekroe... by UltimaRex	Apr 24th, 2008 09:14:14 AM
You sir, made me chuckle over a subject which usually makes me spit blood. I salute you!
Superman goes EMO?!?!!!!!! by BRUTICUS	Apr 24th, 2008 09:14:15 AM
I wonder if he will post youtube videos to the world
WTF? Yes, "Angry God" is SO in character for Superman... by SpyGuy	Apr 24th, 2008 09:14:22 AM
George Reeves needs to come back from the dead and start smacking the crap out of some studio execs. Superman is a hero. H-E-R-O...Someone you look up to that inspires you, not an "Angry God." (Sighs)
YOU CANNOT KILL A KID IN A SUPERMAN MOVIE! by UltimaRex	Apr 24th, 2008 09:15:24 AM
That was quick.
Maybe "angry God"... by Sledge Hammer	Apr 24th, 2008 09:16:04 AM
...equals Darkseid. Now that'd be cool. Damn hard to pull off convincingly in a two hour film though...
Enough Already!!! by Jazner	Apr 24th, 2008 09:17:38 AM
Okay, I get that Superman has ALWAYS been a metaphor for the story of Jesus Christ, and I'm cool with that. However, can we keep things in perspective here and make another SUPERMAN movie, not a theology piece? I don't want 'an angry god,' I want an angry as hell BRAINIAC, preferably in the form of Jason Isaacs, that's willing an able to kick the living hell out of the Man of Steel. THAT is what this franchise needs.
Why doesn't he just fight SOMETHING!!!!!!!!!! by SuperSooner	Apr 24th, 2008 09:17:53 AM
I want to see Superman FIGHT!!!! F all this psychobably storyline BS. Fuckity fight something already!
Superkid by krish-0	Apr 24th, 2008 09:19:25 AM
I actually liked the idea of Superman and Lois having a kid. One of the few things about the movie I did like. I didn't hate SR, but I did find it very boring. I've tried a few times to watch it again, because I think I should like it, but I just lose interest every time.
Ya... by Drwyrm2002	Apr 24th, 2008 09:27:24 AM
I read this like 5 days ago.
YOU CANNOT KILL A KID IN A SUPERMAN MOVIE! by UltimaRex	Apr 24th, 2008 09:27:39 AM
Say guys I'm going to have to go do other things. Can someone hold down the fort? All you have to do is copy and paste YOU CANNOT KILL A KID IN A SUPERMAN MOVIE! any time someone even hints at killing Jason. C'mon! It's fun!
So they still don't understand the character by INWOsuxRED	Apr 24th, 2008 09:28:07 AM
Maybe they should just wait and see if the Justice League people know how to portray Superman and then run with that version if they manage to get it right.
Maybe the "angry god" isn't Superman. by rbatty024	Apr 24th, 2008 09:29:59 AM
Maybe it's the villain, like Darkseid. I would love to see some of the New Gods brought to life on film. It would also be pretty cool to get Superman off Earth for a while and in space for most of the film. That's an aspect that hasn't been dealt with as fully as it could be.
I see someone mentioned Darkseid before me. by rbatty024	Apr 24th, 2008 09:30:48 AM
Anyone else looking forward to a Darkseid appearance?
Superman Returns II:Revenge of the Alamony by INWOsuxRED	Apr 24th, 2008 09:32:10 AM
Superman gets angry that he has to support his child and a woman he had sex with once, while he doesn't get custody, thus the transformation from stalker/deadbeat dad to full blown ANGRY GOD! Just what everyone wanted.
Superman Returns = disaster movie by kwisatzhaderach	Apr 24th, 2008 09:32:34 AM
and not in the 'Towering Inferno' sense.
Pull a "The Incredible Hulk" and reboot this thing ... by Luscious.868	Apr 24th, 2008 09:34:35 AM
If Marvel can do it then DC can. Singer ruined the X Men franchise by leaving and the Superman franchise by agreeing to to make the movie. Sign a director that has proven they can handle action movies but have also demonstrated they can make a decent small budget drama as well (eliminating McG, Micheal Bay and others), get new leads for all of the major roles and have Superman take on a villain that we have yet to see on the Big Screen who can go toe to toe with him (Darksied, Doomsday, Braniac .. but don't use the name Brainiac). It's a fucking no brainier. If done right it's a 3 or 4 movie billion dollar cash cow.
DevilCat FTMFW! by Atomica	Apr 24th, 2008 09:40:02 AM

DevilCat FTMFW! by Atomica	Apr 24th, 2008 09:40:02 AM

Sounds as dull as SR by Movietool	Apr 24th, 2008 09:43:18 AM
Let me join the chorus: Reboot! Reboot! Reboot!
Killing kids in a superman movie... by mojorising74	Apr 24th, 2008 09:43:44 AM
Wasn't there a scene in Superman II where the lesbian superhero has the big guy throw his siren and kill the kid on the horse? I know it wasn't in the theatrical version, but I feel like that was the version I saw on TV. "He was just a boy!" Delicious lipstick smile. "He'll never be a man."
cowboyone's Dark Knight story by JML9999	Apr 24th, 2008 09:44:25 AM
I recall Newer Animated Batman Lois Killed in timeline Superman goes Capeless and Black and 20+ years later Superman rules Earth with police Droids.
DevilCat is right on the money, by Atomica	Apr 24th, 2008 09:47:16 AM
These two guys truly understand the Superhero genre, and how to present it without making it Goth, Antihero, MoDerNiZeD or Losing the Spirit of the character. You can make a character fresh and relevant and still stick to their core character nuances and plot devices. We don't need an angry Superman. We don't need a dark Superman. We just need Superman. And the fact is, Smallville is consistently more watchable than Superman Returns (or Superman 3 and 4, Lois and Clark and the Superboy TV Series for that matter)ever was and that's with taking alot of liberties with the mythos, making things more connected in his past than was originally written in the comics. Tom Welling is ten times the Kal El than Routh is. Not saying they should use the Smallville cast, simply stating that if the person portraying the Big Blue Boy Scout on the Silver Screen can't match Welling at the very least, then theydon't need to be cast as in the lead role.
Darth Busey by Darth Busey	Apr 24th, 2008 09:48:30 AM
Keep Routh and Worthington, and throw out everything else. And for the love of God, enough with the origin.
Film Morrison's All Star Superman by Spartacus Hughs	Apr 24th, 2008 09:48:57 AM
Keep Routh. Loose Bostwick.
Darkseid by Judge Briggs	Apr 24th, 2008 09:51:09 AM
Bring in Paul Dini and Bruce Timm. I mean, they have worked for you, WB, for years... call them on the phone and have them come up with a Darkseid movie split into two! Gawd, would be amazing.
Speaking of Lois and Clark by Herb West	Apr 24th, 2008 09:51:26 AM
Too bad Dean Cain went on to a career of one bad B movie after another.
Superman Returns > Spiderman 3 by GibsonUSA	Apr 24th, 2008 09:56:38 AM
If you had the two DVDs next to each other, I'd pick up Supes. Stop getting all over-dramatic about how bad it was. Like someone said, it wasn't Batman & Robin like some of you try to make it out to be. And rebooting is nonsense. Reboot a $200 million generating movie that it itself was a restart? Give me a break.
A good old fashioned reboot is needed here by nerosday	Apr 24th, 2008 09:57:48 AM
I think Supes would be best served by starting over really. Returns was okay as a movie in general, but the direction Singer took it in terms of the kid and terrible miscasting of Lois are reprehensable to me. I liked Routh as Superman really, but he was more a new incarnation of Reeve than anything else. I want the Superman and esspecially Lex Luthor I grew up reading about. I hated the con-man/super genius schtick, give me the shadowy head of Lex corp any day. I want Lex to be a true menace again. I never felt that from Hackman or Spacey. Give us a new Supes Gerard Butler, or some other actor who can be physically imposing, they don't have to be six five, just have them fill out the suit, you know. I want Lois to be tough, not stupid. I like the Marsden character and think it be interesting to see Clark have a good natured guy to compete with for Lois' affections, but the kid absolutely must MUST go. Lex should be a foil and background character, but with him being the villian in nearly every movie to date lets establish him in the new role and leave him like a shark lurking in the background. The villian should be someone that poses a true threat to the whole world. Someone worthy of Superman. My vote is and always has remained Darkseid. that would truely be awesome, but he too must be a real actor, not CG I'm utterly sick of CG villans.
Take a hint from Marvel... by solitaire	Apr 24th, 2008 09:59:33 AM
As my father would always say, the first step in fixing a mistake is admitting you made one. Superman Returns wasn't the worst movie ever, but it wasn't great, either. The suit was bad (why mess with simplicity and perfection? Donner knew that) the story was bad (a character that loves his adopted world so deeply and cherishes life would NEVER take off for years, even to see if a remnant of his homeworld remains. Galactic rescue is what Green lanterns are for. Superman is selfless, not selfish)Don't get me started on the kid (should have guessed that the kid was half kryptonian when apparently every barber in Metropolis broke their scissors on supe juniors shag doo) Point is this, Marvel looked at Ang Lee's Hulk and saw that a new direction was needed, so they bit the bullet and went back. For better or worse, they are doing the same with the Punisher. DC needs to do the same thing here, as they did with Batman. I agree on two previous points: Get Brad Bird and Bruce Timm to head it up, and do it as a continuation of Smallville. At this point, the feeling seems to be that the show (and I am a huge fan)is running out of room, and the cast is getting antsy. Rosenbaum and kreuek are only semi regulars from here on out, but I think they would be more than happy to step into the roles every few years for a film series. Put clark on the bus in the last episode, reboot the franchise as simply METROPOLIS with the first film. Give Welling his shot, not only has the guy proved himself capable, but he was given the blessing of Christopher Reeve. At the time of his passing, I think there were few people who knew as much about Superman or cared more deeply about his meaning to people than Reeve, and him giving his nod, to me, is all the affirmation I need. You can add your justice league origins here, as the show has allready prepped them. The only hitch is Lois knowing Clark before the city and his lack of glasses, but Bird and Timm could sort that out easily enough. Just my 2 cents...-solitaire
Darkseid casting. by UltimaRex	Apr 24th, 2008 10:02:26 AM
Actor: Tommy 'Tiny' Lister. Voice: Helmut Bakaitis.
GibsonUSA by INWOsuxRED	Apr 24th, 2008 10:04:45 AM
That is like saying "this moldy sandwich is delicious compared to that pile of shit".
Hey I have an idea! by fat bears	Apr 24th, 2008 10:04:55 AM
Has anyone suggested killing his kid yet?
I'm also thinking the angry god thing is the villian by Reel American Hero	Apr 24th, 2008 10:06:19 AM
And not Superman itself. I don't think they'd be able to sell much merchandise off a power mad Superman. But someone like Mongul, or Darkseid, now there'd be something. Chances are though it'll be about Lex again, making a Bizarro clone...or creating the movie version of Doomsday or something.
But really... by fat bears	Apr 24th, 2008 10:07:34 AM
If there is a reboot I'm casting my vote for John Hamm from Mad Men as the next Superman. I want to see the mild-mannered Clark Kent from the Fleischer cartoons. And for my second vote I vote that the Alex Ross story about Superman failing to feed the world for a day be included somehow, thematicaly or otherwise.
Dream casting time fellas: Who would you like to see try on the by nerosday	Apr 24th, 2008 10:08:23 AM
And for that matter who would you like as Lex, or anyother villian or supporting member of the cast, like Lois and Jimmy? I thinking about it myself.
Eh? by fat bears	Apr 24th, 2008 10:10:06 AM
Clark Kent just got some bad news: http://tinyurl.com/6fwonc ...eh? Eh???
YOU CANNOT KILL A KID IN A SUPERMAN MOVIE! by UltimaRex	Apr 24th, 2008 10:11:11 AM
Yeah I know fat bears was joking but...
I don't want a movie version of the Death of Superman. by nerosday	Apr 24th, 2008 10:11:58 AM
Enough already the damn story is played out in spades. Please God don't let them do that again. Even the comics version of the actual story was stupid, only the after effects showing all the other superheros reactions and life without him worked to me. Of course you wouldn't be able to do that until after at least a JLA movie came out.
This '"angry God" and "wrath of khan" bullshit is making ME angr by Live.	Apr 24th, 2008 10:13:54 AM
Why the fuck are are these people in charge of Superman, when they obviously don't know anything about him? All of this "angry""wrathful" bullshit sounds like Jon Peters madness has infected them all. DAMN YOU WB FOR PUTTING SUPERMAN INTO THE HANDS OF FRANK MILLER-WANNABE IDIOTS!
As long as he's actually fighting a goddamn super villian, then by Craiggers	Apr 24th, 2008 10:14:25 AM
The Superman movies have always been kind of lame cause he never quite meets his match. That's why I think so many people like Superman 2, cause at least in that one he's fighting other Kryptonians. With the technology available, we could he an EPIC battle to end all battles with Superman going up against Darkseid, Braniac, hell even Parasite would be cool. I like Lex Luthor, but he's a master manipulator - not really much of a head-to-head guy. If he's going to be involved, it needs to be behind the scenes - unless he's using his battle suit.
Superman Returns > Pirates 3 > Spidey 3 by Motoko Kusanagi	Apr 24th, 2008 10:16:02 AM
pwned
Kingdom come Supes would be very cool...... by KnightEternal	Apr 24th, 2008 10:16:22 AM
but I very much doubt they will ever do it :(
Priorities by kesoze4	Apr 24th, 2008 10:18:38 AM
They're thinking about making a movie about the CREATION OF HELL and Lucifer's exile from heaven and all you idiots can focus on is the sequel to what ended up being a just-okay movie?
kesoze4 That really does sound like that could be awesome by nerosday	Apr 24th, 2008 10:20:56 AM

Dumb idea by mikegator	Apr 24th, 2008 10:21:08 AM
Superman is a boy scout, not an angry god. This will fail miserably is they do this. I won't see it.
DerLanghaarige by Kurutteru Yatsu	Apr 24th, 2008 10:21:27 AM
Please wait while the disembodied head of Marlon Brando calibrates... . ..the nozzle.
Maybe the angry god isn't supes by krushjudgement	Apr 24th, 2008 10:22:21 AM
Or maybe he's not angry at humanity. I loved Superman Returns!
KID DIES. Superman cries & mopes, beats villain. Cries more by Live.	Apr 24th, 2008 10:22:31 AM
The breaks off Lois' marriage so he can get pity fuck. THE END.
Reboot. Timm to direct, Dini and by Dingbatty	Apr 24th, 2008 10:24:06 AM
McDuffie on script duties. Make it so.
Hellboy > Constantine > Superman Returns by Live.	Apr 24th, 2008 10:27:42 AM
BURN IN HELL WB!
Devilcat is right on the money by Snookeroo	Apr 24th, 2008 10:28:02 AM
Look, it's just not that hard. Throw out the wreck that was Superman Returns and start over (and I DON'T mean another origin story..is there ANYONE on the planet that doesn't already know Superman's origin?)There's 70 years of good material -- look at some of the Denny O'Neill stories. Get Dini. Get Timm. Get Bird. Don't re-imagine Superman. Don't re-invent him. Don't make him a god (Thor territory). Don't make him angry (Hulk territory). Don't load him with angst (Spider-man). Don't make him a boy...make him a full-grown man. SuperMAN, get it? Don't put him in a friggin' rubber suit. Don't make him gay. Don't make him a stalker. Don't use Luthor as the villain. Ever. Again. Don't make it camp. Take a look at the movies that work -- what do they have in common? They're true to the source material. Do that. It's just not that hard.
As long as Singer ain't attached.... by Thot	Apr 24th, 2008 10:28:34 AM
....then I'm in! "Angry god"? We don't need another dark, morose Superman film dammit! I think most of us want the Big Blue Boy Scout in a shiny, more colorful, exciting, action-packed, Lois-loves-Supes, universe! I guess I'm too much the romantic.
Is this a fan art? by ludmir88	Apr 24th, 2008 10:31:41 AM
http://tinyurl.com/6maaq6
While I agree that Supes HAS to fucking fight a real villian by shitstorm23	Apr 24th, 2008 10:32:45 AM
I just wish most people could see Luthor for how fucking cool he could be as this corporate mastermind. Instead of some bumbling, real estate-scamming, jerk-off, grandma-fucking doofus. This does need a reboot, it might not have been as bad as Spidey3, but it was bad. Bad costume, bad Lois casting, that fucking kid, the lonely watcher horse shit. Supes is upbeat, Batman is the one with all the angst.
this one looks cool without the titles by ludmir88	Apr 24th, 2008 10:33:30 AM
http://tinyurl.com/6xqupp
Superman or Captain Marvel? by fat bears	Apr 24th, 2008 10:36:40 AM
There's a lot of people in here wishing for bright and sparkly, child-like wonder adventures for Superman... are you guys sure you're not wishing for Captain Marvel? The best Superman stories I've read have always been about Power, and how an adult can use it to the betterment of the world. I mean, yay for madcap fun and child-like wonder but that's kind of a different guy (who I love BTW, yay Big Red Cheese!)
What's next?....A Fucking Space Cloud? by riddleman1674	Apr 24th, 2008 10:41:12 AM
Jesus Christ! (No pun intended there) Common you fucking nipple loving, painted flame giving, franchise RAPING corporate goons! Wake the fuck up! I think everyone has waiting thirty fucking years to see a villian other than Lex Luthor, General Zod, and the ultra gay Super Sun Fucking Fabio! hint you idiots, while youre sitting up their scheming your next plan to stick it to the fanbase....BRANIAC, PRANSKTER, METALLO, BIZZARRO, DOOMSDAY, TOYMAN, DARKSIED...HELL even MXYZPTLK was rumored at one point....mmmm...nah lets use GOD as the main villian. There you go and while we're at it, piss off the most of the free religious world. I mean if people could whine and cry about movies like Dogma, imagine the field day they would have on this one?! No wait, you know what go ahead, do it. Let the boycott begin and fuck the franchise for a revival in another 10 years! sigh....I feel like I just gave birth haha. You Hollywood douchebags will never learn. Nuff' said.....
CGI Darkseid with Michael Ironside doing the voice by SpyGuy	Apr 24th, 2008 10:41:43 AM
My God, it would be glorious...
shitstorm nails it by Lost Jarv	Apr 24th, 2008 10:43:26 AM
SR was fucking horrible. It was comfortably the worst movie I saw in a summer of shitty fucking movies. Just pretend it didn't happen, gently delete the masters, exile Singer and scriptwriters and start again.
But, but, but Harry said Superman Returns was a masterpiece!!! by McFly in the Ointment	Apr 24th, 2008 10:44:33 AM
How can the francise be so messed up when Bryan Singer did such an incredible job on the first movie??? No biases here folks... Harry said: "And finally today I saw a SUPERMAN film that is no fantasy – no careless product of wild imagination. No, my friends… this is the film I was hoping and dreaming for. A movie to reintroduce SUPERMAN to the world. Many would take this to mean that I was "predisposed" to love SUPERMAN RETURNS - actually - for me, that's not exactly true. I could have shown up today and found a basket of lies and false hopes. I could have not seen the film I saw. A film filled with love and beauty. To not brush the original films of my childhood away like artifacts of a misguided time. Instead – what Singer, Dougherty and Harris have done – well… they too liked the first and second films. And they dared to honor them, but not be beholden. To acknowledge, while reinventing. And – not so much improving, but learning from the mistakes of an era."
No to fully GCI villain by Live.	Apr 24th, 2008 10:48:00 AM
It lessens the sense of danger. The Hulk film worries me on this account.
For all of you who missed me... by McFly in the Ointment	Apr 24th, 2008 10:50:06 AM
I've been on other sites that have actual movie "news." This story broke on April 22: http://www.rottentomatoes.com/ m/superman_returns/news/172349 6/comments/ Another nice job there, Ain't It Old News!!!
Let's have Bryan Singer direct a Lex Luthor as an Angry Widow Ba by McFly in the Ointment	Apr 24th, 2008 10:52:44 AM
Harry would say it's the movie he's dreamt about for 40 years!
Lex Luthor-SUPERMAN III. by Herb West	Apr 24th, 2008 10:55:34 AM
Please Explain
supe returns was HORRIBLE. laughable. very laughable. by THE_ONE_MAN_GANG	Apr 24th, 2008 10:55:47 AM
Singer is wrong for all movies that require action, because he is a pussy. Snyder would be a great choice for superman...someone who can finally bring some originality to a supe film.
I have a dream by nerosday	Apr 24th, 2008 11:00:07 AM
A dream of seeing a backlit Darkseid walking down the long spiralling tube of light that is a boom tube, and walking out onto a city street facing Superman, and a little smirk cracks across the slab of stone that is his face, as those solid red eyes gleam ever so slightly. If I ever see that on film I swear I will have a terminal geekgasim and die right there.
Not so much wondering where you were by Lost Jarv	Apr 24th, 2008 11:00:16 AM
as hoping to fuck you didn't come back. We get it, you don't like Harry, you hate the site etc. Now be a good little troll and piss off back under your bridge.
Snyder would be a great choice for superman by Herb West	Apr 24th, 2008 11:00:24 AM
Yeah, Snyder is doing pretty good so far.
It was pretentious by toadkillerdog	Apr 24th, 2008 11:04:41 AM
It was not a horrible movie. It was not badly made. It was simply badly envisioned, scripted, cast, directed, and costumed. The moment the first still hit, it was 'Oh no'. I do not care what Singer's sexual proclivities are, he should never have tried to create a gay Superman costume. Which is exactly what he did. Secondly: It has a boring, non engaging plot, and a rip off of as well. I remember a post from someone that cracked me up it said 'Singer called Donner just to hear him breathe'. Thirdly: The whole point of a Superhero action adventure movie, is to bring the action! There is nothing wroung with creating nuance in superhero characters, and Singer has proven he can do so, just as he has proven he can direct action, but for the life of me, why after 20 some years, he and Warners, chose to make a big budget snooze-a-thon, I will never know. If Supes returns - again, give him a super powered villain to fight, and skip the Jesus imagery. When most of the viewing public goes to a superhero mvie, we expect to see superheroics, not an examination of existentialism.
If Snyder nails Watchmen he could do Supes anyday by nerosday	Apr 24th, 2008 11:04:50 AM

An angry god can kill anything he wants! by SpiceMonkey27	Apr 24th, 2008 11:05:56 AM
Stalker sopes finds out the kid is not his and kills him & kate bosworth, then he drinks liquid Kryptonite and dies, the end
An angry god can kill anything he wants! by SpiceMonkey27	Apr 24th, 2008 11:06:04 AM
Stalker supes finds out the kid is not his and kills him & kate bosworth, then he drinks liquid Kryptonite and dies, the end
Lost Jarv!!! by McFly in the Ointment	Apr 24th, 2008 11:09:48 AM
I promised I wouldn't tell anyone on the site that you're actually Harry, but you've left me no option... So angry. So very, very angry. Why are you such an angry Lost Jarv?
TKD? by Lost Jarv	Apr 24th, 2008 11:11:06 AM
It wasn't a bad movie, it was just badly acted, written, cast, envisioned, costumed, directed, boring, pretentious and missed the point. What the hell is a bad movie then?
idiot. by Lost Jarv	Apr 24th, 2008 11:11:48 AM
Yes, I'm Harry. Well done, have a twinkie.
And I don't hate the site, Lost Jarvy... by McFly in the Ointment	Apr 24th, 2008 11:12:07 AM
I just think that given all the exciting things happening in the film industry right now (with Iron Man, Indy, Dark Knight, HellBoy, SpeedRacer, etc. coming out this summer), the site could report actual "Cool News" instead of old Superman news about a movie that should not be made!
Marvel by McFly in the Ointment	Apr 24th, 2008 11:14:06 AM

Marvel by McFly in the Ointment	Apr 24th, 2008 11:14:08 AM

i'm in no hurry to see another superman by BMacSmith	Apr 24th, 2008 11:14:44 AM

Marvel's actually getting it right... by McFly in the Ointment	Apr 24th, 2008 11:16:14 AM
... with secondary characters like Iron Man and DC/Warner can't even do a proper Superman movie! Who's running the show over there, Lost Jarv??? Lost Jarv, who's the Teen Titans script coming along?
Yeah.... by Herb West	Apr 24th, 2008 11:24:28 AM
Without Nolan and the Batman franchise, D.C. would probably be Bankrupt/Out of business by now.
Superjeebus by pokadoo	Apr 24th, 2008 11:24:51 AM

Herb West is right!!! by McFly in the Ointment	Apr 24th, 2008 11:27:25 AM
DC should hold on tight to the Nolan Bros. They're the only people alive who can actually create a strong DC property... unless Harry's to be believed and Bryan Singer really did do a great job on Spuerman Returns. Such a good job, in fact, that they are rushing to do an "angry god" sequel. Nice job, Lost Jarv, you Twinkie lover.
YOU CANNOT KILL A KID IN A SUPERMAN MOVIE! by UltimaRex	Apr 24th, 2008 11:30:35 AM
Just a name: Adam Grant. Look him up if you have to.
Maybe Darksied is the angry god? by krushjudgement	Apr 24th, 2008 11:30:44 AM

Hollywood doesn't 'get' Superman. by ZeroCorpse	Apr 24th, 2008 11:35:11 AM
They want Superman movies to either be love stories, or introspectives about the nature of power and responsibility. None save Superman II got the comic book theme of good versus evil right, and Superman II was still a mess. Really, stop trying to make Superman movies. You keep casting young 20-something guys who don't look old enough or authoritarian enough (or big enough) to be Superman. You keep harping on the 1940s stories featuring the Daily Planet, the Lois love affair, and the real estate plot by the evil mastermind. Just stop. If you're not going to make a SuperMAN movie that focuses on the Man of Steel fighting against superhuman threats, then DON'T FUCKING BOTHER. I am NOT watching another lame 40's-style romantic comedy mixed with a lot of scenes of Superman lifting stuff.
I think.... by Herb West	Apr 24th, 2008 11:37:56 AM
we can get off the whole angry god deal now. It was just a comment that the guy made when he was talking to a bunch of students. I think people are making way too much out of it.
I also totally agree with ZeroCorpse by McFly in the Ointment	Apr 24th, 2008 11:38:26 AM
To have a man from another planet with superpowers come to earth and only face individuals from earth in a standoff to make it more "realistic" is actually just lame as hell... and it's been done over five Superman movies!!! JUST DON'T BOTHER, all you Lost Jarvs.
HULK SMASH! SUPERMAN LIFT! by random dude	Apr 24th, 2008 11:41:03 AM

McFly in the Ointment by Herb West	Apr 24th, 2008 11:43:34 AM
Yes, Even Elektra had some super villains in it. Elektra, for fuck's sake!
random dude is right by McFly in the Ointment	Apr 24th, 2008 11:43:57 AM
We need a lot more creative thought on the direction of the next Superman movie and a lot fewer Twinkie-eating Lost Jarvs screwing up the creative process. Shame on you Lost Jarv!
Superman the deadbeat dad. by Underoos Hero	Apr 24th, 2008 11:45:00 AM
From what I've been reading on a few webzines, This last Supe movie has kinda hurt Brian Singers career and rightly so. Returns was a wash out of a movie and a loss of great opportunity. It was more of a movie for Brian Singer. Like most directors a "see what I can do"? movie. Yes Brian we saw what you did and it sucked very badly. Now go work at Starbucks or something.
SUPERKID = BIZARRO by cncoyle	Apr 24th, 2008 11:45:04 AM
Luthor cloned Superman (again) and put the embryo in Lois (don't ask how). Superman fights Bizarro Boy and cries when delivering the final blow. 1/2 Emo Poetry + 1/2 Hamlet (inversed) = SUCCESS
My guess is... by Kid Z	Apr 24th, 2008 11:45:06 AM
...If court rulings keep going the Siegel's way, DC's going to get out of the Superman business (it's not their top money-maker anyway) which will mean his disappearance as a pop culture icon. He'll end up being like the Shadow or an endless array of forgotten Golden Age comics characers. Too bad, but I always preferred Batman anyway. Besides, it's nice to see that Karma can still be in effect after 70 years. Good for the Siegels, I hope they see at least some money out of this since DC (or National, as it was then known) screwed Siegel and Shuster over so royally back in the day.
Herb West said it best! by McFly in the Ointment	Apr 24th, 2008 11:45:34 AM
Frankly, I think Electra was even better than Superman Returns, but don't tell Harry and Lost Jarv that. They'll get all hissy with you. Harry dreamt of Superman Returns since childhood.
Superman Idea by Chilli815	Apr 24th, 2008 11:46:46 AM
What happens when a 'God' starts to question the point of humanity? That's the crux of my idea, taken into a direction where Superman becomes the villain and Lex becomes the hero. The basic gist is that Superman starts to realise how bad humanity sucks, and as a result just starts taking it down as a construct bit by bit. He stands in front of trains moving at full speed, he picks people off the street and just throws them as far as he can, he sets an orphanage on fire... the guy is basically a vengeful deity. So its up to Lex to save the world, which he does by making everyone think he's aligned with Superman, and then tricking the last son of Krypton into drinking a chocolate milkshake containing liquid kryptonite. For some reason, the thought of Lex being a hero for killing a mass murdering Superman amuses me.
McFly in the Ointment... by UltimaRex	Apr 24th, 2008 11:47:53 AM
You're just hot for Lost Jarv's bod aren't you? You can admit it...
As for Singer... by McFly in the Ointment	Apr 24th, 2008 11:48:14 AM
If you think ditching the X-Men franchise for Superman Returns damaged his career, wait til you get a load of what Valkyrie does to it. Starbucks won't even hire him ... although maybe he could get a job posting "news" on this site or picking up twinkies for Lost Jarv.
Lost Jarv by toadkillerdog	Apr 24th, 2008 11:49:15 AM
LOL well, yeah, when you put my words like that, I guess it does seem like a bad movie! But honestly, I did not think Supes was bad in the sense that I walked out of it thinking I had wasted two hours, and ten bucks. I compare it to a truly bad movie like Spidey 3 - which was a total waste of time. Supes was boring, but boring is not necessarily bad, it is just not good. If that makes any sense? I am in no way defending Supes, I could not stand it, but I have levels of what I consider 'bad movies'.
UltimaRex... why? by McFly in the Ointment	Apr 24th, 2008 11:49:44 AM
Why would you point out the obvious. Lost Jarv's been working out with Twinkies, waiting for our time together.
toadkillerdog... besides having the best name on this site... by McFly in the Ointment	Apr 24th, 2008 11:50:41 AM
... you're an idiot.
Superman Returns by Chilli815	Apr 24th, 2008 11:52:02 AM
Was bad? Go see Ghost Rider, then tell me that SR is a bad flick. At least SR didn't have Nicholas Cage eating sweets from the inside of a wine glass.
Brad Bird + Paul Dini + Bruce Timm + Dwayne McDuffie by blindambition238	Apr 24th, 2008 11:52:08 AM
= a movie none of us deserves.
Can't they at least... by Kid Z	Apr 24th, 2008 11:53:36 AM
...get Bwyan Thinger'th dainty li'l paws off this franchise? I mean, they managed to get rid of Joel Schumacher, it seems like the should show Thinger the proverbial curb as well.
Chilli815... by UltimaRex	Apr 24th, 2008 11:54:39 AM
So at the end SINO is on the floor and Lex is standing over him shouting "Drainage! DRRRIAAANNNAGE!!! Kal-El, you boy!".
Chilli815 by McFly in the Ointment	Apr 24th, 2008 11:55:17 AM
You realize you're comparing Bryan Singer's Superman to Ghost Rider. You are correct that Ghost Rider was worse, but comparing the two speaks volumes. And Harry and Lost Jarv - the two Twinkie lovers - loved Superman Returns. So very, very sad.
Ultimarex by Chilli815	Apr 24th, 2008 11:57:48 AM
No, at the end Lex has taken the unconscious Superman and placed him in a lead room, and pierced his nose/ears/eyebrow and lip with a kryptonite ring, so that he'll always be poisoned in some way.
There already is an angry god in Superman... by OBSD	Apr 24th, 2008 11:57:52 AM
His name is Darkseid. I know! You could have Superman fight him! No, nevermind. That would make sense and it would be something people would actually watch.Just keep Lex Luthor around with yet another retarted real estate scam, but this time, Superman has to fight a whole PLANET of Kryptonite. Yeah, that's so much better than making a good movie. Or, why don't we just extrapolate the ridulous ideas that Singer has given us. Supes is already a deadbeat dad, so lets make him a meth addict as well! But....but! The meth is mixed with Kryptonite! Yeah! That'll be great! Because watching a 2 and 1/2 hour movie about superhero with "issues" is so much better than watching him actually have to fight an enemy with equal or greater power than him!
McFly in the Ointment by Chilli815	Apr 24th, 2008 11:59:00 AM
My rationale was merely to point out that, however bad people may think (and I disagree with it being bad, personally) SR is, GR is a far worse example of a comic-book film. And this from a guy who thinks the chap behind GR did a great job with DD.
McFly in the Ointment... by UltimaRex	Apr 24th, 2008 12:00:08 PM
Fair enough. I'll just draw a veil over the whole thing and leave you two to it...
Superman: Richard Pryor Returns by Underoos Hero	Apr 24th, 2008 12:03:09 PM
Since Singer went back to the 78 Superman and nabbed some Marlon Brando footage for Returns. Why not go back to Superman 3 and grab some Richard Pryor footage and cgi his ass into a new Supes flick. He could be this "wacky" villain that goes into this big machine and come out as a superhuman, kills Supes bastard child and then has a climactic battle over Niagra Falls. Awesome.
Chilli815 by McFly in the Ointment	Apr 24th, 2008 12:04:36 PM
I don't disagree! At least DareDevil had some bloody action and a watchable bad guy (and a better looking babe!). To see a poor remake of Superman and Lex Luther fighting was so incredibly lame only Lost Jarv could have come up with that idea. And for Superman to lift AN ISLAND OF KRYPTONITE didn't even allow viewers the ability to suspend their disbelief!!! I'm glad Harry liked it though. No biases.
MONGUL by cncoyle	Apr 24th, 2008 12:05:20 PM
Mongul is an obvious choice, because you've got a pissed-off warmongering alien who doesn't need much backstory. Warworld shows up, Superman is all "Nuh-uh, I wuv Earf" and ultimate fighting begins. Heck, make it all Matrix-y if they gotta... Jackie Chan as Gangbuster and Jet Li as Shadowdragon!
McFly in the Ointment by random dude	Apr 24th, 2008 12:05:41 PM
That's a funny nickname alright.
At least DareDevil had some bloody action... by Herb West	Apr 24th, 2008 12:07:15 PM
That's true. The Director's cut was a far better movie, too bad most people never saw it.
YOU CANNOT KILL A KID IN A SUPERMAN MOVIE! by UltimaRex	Apr 24th, 2008 12:07:35 PM
NOT
UltimaRex by Underoos Hero	Apr 24th, 2008 12:08:52 PM
Rambo Did It.
Thanks random dude by McFly in the Ointment	Apr 24th, 2008 12:09:08 PM
I like your nickname too. Now why not go step in front of a bus, you Twinkie-eating Lost Jarv!
YOU CANNOT KILL A KID IN A SUPERMAN MOVIE! by UltimaRex	Apr 24th, 2008 12:09:48 PM
EVEN
McFly in the Ointment by Chilli815	Apr 24th, 2008 12:10:11 PM
I liked SR, on the record. But I also like Congo, so...
YOU CANNOT KILL A KID IN A SUPERMAN MOVIE! by UltimaRex	Apr 24th, 2008 12:10:35 PM
WITH
"angry god" = Superman: King of the World by cncoyle	Apr 24th, 2008 12:10:50 PM
I bet that's the direction they're going. Tons of Superman Robots (watch out, Donna Troy!) and Dominus w/ his floating hands! (floating hands! Ruuuuuun!!!!)
YOU CANNOT KILL A KID IN A SUPERMAN MOVIE! by UltimaRex	Apr 24th, 2008 12:11:15 PM
RICHARD
UltimaRex by Chilli815	Apr 24th, 2008 12:11:22 PM
Can't kill the kid? Not even if he's evil and stabs Superman in the crotch with a jagged piece of Kryptonite? Cause that's the point of no return. Just cause Superman doesn't get laid often, doesn't mean he wants to be literally cock-socked.
YOU CANNOT KILL A KID IN A SUPERMAN MOVIE! by UltimaRex	Apr 24th, 2008 12:12:07 PM
PRYOR!
No Superman reboot - just make no mention of the kid by Yeti	Apr 24th, 2008 12:15:01 PM
And for gods sake introduce a villian we haven't seen on the big screen yet, Doomsday, Darksied or Solomon Grundy (born on a Monday)
Actually... by Herb West	Apr 24th, 2008 12:16:50 PM
The Superman 2 Director's cut was a better movie, too.
Rambo is Rambo... by UltimaRex	Apr 24th, 2008 12:17:20 PM
He ain't Superman
Superman is a corny character to begin with by BozeMaster69	Apr 24th, 2008 12:18:07 PM
Superman is a dinosaur from the age of "good clean and wholesome". The reason why Superman Returns failed miserably is because the film-makers tried to modernize him...give him an edge. Superman having a child with Lois Lane seems like a now aborted attempt to capitalize on a possible spin-off featuring Superboy. Bryan Singer has gone on record as stating that he was a huge fan of the first two Superman movies (personally I'm a huge fan of the first one). The fact that he tried to give him an "edge" as opposed to just picking up where the second one left off was a failure. Another issue that I have with Superman Returns is that they blew their load early on in the film with the spectacular space shuttle sequence. The "money shot" of Superman flying above the clouds to absorb power from the sun seemed a little too "Bird-manish" for me. The only thing missing from that scene was an eagle sidekick!
Lost Jarv, why are DC/Warner Bros... by McFly in the Ointment	Apr 24th, 2008 12:18:22 PM
so afraid to introduce other Superman villians besides Lex Luthor. It makes you wonder whether they feel these characters are too weak for wider audiences.
ThePilgrim by UltimaRex	Apr 24th, 2008 12:18:59 PM
GF left you?
DWAYNE JOHNSON by Shermdawg	Apr 24th, 2008 12:20:52 PM

Shermdawg ol' buddy, ol' pal... by UltimaRex	Apr 24th, 2008 12:23:35 PM
How's that dead horse?
Afraid to introduce other Superman villians by Herb West	Apr 24th, 2008 12:23:40 PM
That's a good point. What they have been doing is basically the same as if every single Batman movie had the Joker as the villain. If that happened fans would freak, but no one seems to notice or care when it's Luthor in every movie.
ThePilgrim, you're a real gentleman! by McFly in the Ointment	Apr 24th, 2008 12:25:02 PM
That's some nice language there. Real classy thoughts. You need to turn off your computer, leave your basement, and get some fresh air. Go grab a coffee and a muffin. Try not to let those "mean thoughts" get the better of you.
How does rebooting make ANY business sense? ???? by GibsonUSA	Apr 24th, 2008 12:25:49 PM
Superman has a legion of followers of the 80's movies. After about two decades, this character finally returned, and introduced to a whole new generation. Merchandising up the butt. A $200 million box office take. Brandon Routh's face is now seen as the character and the new universe is established. A 77% on rottontomatoes. The masses accept it. Now give me a good business reason to reboot this? Because YOU don't like the casting? Because YOU don't like the kid? because YOU somehow claim that it could have made 100x more money? Psssh....whatever. Superman Returns was fine. It was a solid movie. And the next one should continue and build off from there.
Fuck Superman, how bout those other projects? by dr sauch	Apr 24th, 2008 12:27:19 PM
Akira? WTWTA? Paradise fucking Lost? I'm on board with whatever Legendary wants to do.
You haven't stopped her bitching ThePilgrim... by UltimaRex	Apr 24th, 2008 12:27:44 PM
Not man enough I see...
The great epic Superman movie will get made by Dasher	Apr 24th, 2008 12:27:55 PM
It's going to happen, whether Singer does it or somebody else. Superman will duke it out with a villain like Doomsday or Darkseid and the CGI havoc will fly. Superman Returns wasn't that great, but I think Singer learned his lessons about what NOT to do in a Superman movie. I'd be willing to give him another shot - as long as he writes the kid out of the series.
Lex Luthor-lite.- SUPERMAN III by Herb West	Apr 24th, 2008 12:28:54 PM
That's about it.
Paradise fucking Lost by Herb West	Apr 24th, 2008 12:30:53 PM
Yeah, I can't believe no one is talking about that.
I want what GibsonUSA is having by McFly in the Ointment	Apr 24th, 2008 12:32:52 PM
Talk about rose colored glasses. You must be smoking some Twinkies with Lost Jarv to think Superman Returns wasn't a big pile. Even Harry would have to admit he botched his call ion this one. I don't know what favors Bryan Singer promised Harry for that stinker of a review!!!
GibsonUSA by Herb West	Apr 24th, 2008 12:33:22 PM
Re: "And the next one should continue and build off from there." I think that's the point. Just where the fuck can you go from there?
Superman: Son of Krypton Father of Son by Underoos Hero	Apr 24th, 2008 12:33:30 PM
Present day and Superman is tired of everyone not giving a shit so he appears on American Idol for a "message to the people" of sorts with his teenage son played by Shia Lebouf. The viewership ratings for AI are the highest ever and even Simon puts in a few good words for Supe and his bastard son. Superman and his son put on some glasses and regular clothes and head to the strip club to celebrate when all of a sudden Lois calls Supe on his cell phone and says she is going after him for past due childsupport. Now Superman has to battle her attorneys and a State Supreme Court judge who doesn't like him or American Idol. THen just before they walk in to Tattle Tales in Atlanta (they got tired of New York and figured theyd be less noticed in Atl), teen Supe (Shia) gets killed by a cgi Richard Pryor...etc.
ThePilgrim... by UltimaRex	Apr 24th, 2008 12:34:07 PM
Says the man with the clit.
ThePilgram, way to top off the day... by McFly in the Ointment	Apr 24th, 2008 12:34:24 PM
It's great to add a little homophobic spice to the conversation. You must be a real stud with the ladies.
YOU CANNOT KILL A- by UltimaRex	Apr 24th, 2008 12:37:40 PM
Wait, its Shia Lebouf? That's all right then...
UltimaRex by Underoos Hero	Apr 24th, 2008 12:38:36 PM
Just for you...
YOU CANNOT KILL A KID IN A SUPERMAN MOVIE! by UltimaRex	Apr 24th, 2008 12:39:14 PM
Joking aside, back to business.
ThePilgrim by Underoos Hero	Apr 24th, 2008 12:40:16 PM
Don't knock a fag till you try one. Just sayin'.
ThePilgrim, you're a spicy one! by McFly in the Ointment	Apr 24th, 2008 12:40:20 PM
You can join our threesome anytime, big boy. And, bring Lost Jarv the Twinkie with you...
ThePilgrim, stop "gaying up" on ME by UltimaRex	Apr 24th, 2008 12:43:56 PM
The "He-man woman hater" thing was old in the 80's.
Speaking of HE-MAN by Underoos Hero	Apr 24th, 2008 12:45:38 PM
The four horseman are releasing a whole hew line of He-Man figures this year. Woo Hoo!!
If you can't kill a kid in a superman movie... by OBSD	Apr 24th, 2008 12:46:00 PM
Can you retcon him away? Just have it be that Mr. Mxytlk was fucking with Superman in the Superman Returns and sent him into a world of medocrity. Then, once Supes defeats Mxy, we can move on and finally be rid of that kid, cuz he never really existed. Works for me.
SUPERMAN RETURNS RULES! by FleshMachine	Apr 24th, 2008 12:46:06 PM
take that haters. not 100% perfect, but a perfect blend of old and new.
YOU CANNOT KILL A KID IN A SUPERMAN MOVIE! by UltimaRex	Apr 24th, 2008 12:47:20 PM
Right, gonna keep focus on the message now.
Hey... by Herb West	Apr 24th, 2008 12:47:36 PM
since we are way off topic, have you guys seen the Salute to the Talkbacker thing yet? It's something every talkbacker should see at least once. http://tinyurl.com/5u3wz8
I dunno about rebooting... by fat bears	Apr 24th, 2008 12:48:19 PM
If you were to get a new director, a new cast, new set and costume designs... then maybe you could keep the basic story thread. Him having a kid doesn't have to be that bad a thing, especially if that kid winds up being used as a stand-in for Jimmy Olsen or Robin, i.e. a potential target that Supes' enemies can take advantage of. And that can be saved at the last minute, because, after all, you can't kill a kid in a superman movie. At least, that's what I hear. Me, what I'd do, is kill the kid AND Lois's shmuck husband and give him the role of Hank Henshaw/Cyborg Superman in a very adjusted telling of The Death of Superman. Oh, and I'd like to see the Eradicator and more of Krypton and Brainiac while I'm wishing....
Jokes aside by Underoos Hero	Apr 24th, 2008 12:48:43 PM
The public would be confused as hell, but who cares about them? How bout Superman in his black costume (no cape) being all angry and stuff then fighting doomsday on some cool planet?
Underoos Hero by Herb West	Apr 24th, 2008 12:51:23 PM
The public wouldn't be any more confused than with Hulk, Punisher or Batman Begins.
You are so right! by OBSD	Apr 24th, 2008 12:51:59 PM
It's got the lame real estate scam by Lex Luthor of the old with some new shoegazing by Supes and a new cumbersome "deadbeat dad" twist! It's perfect!
OBSD... by UltimaRex	Apr 24th, 2008 12:53:13 PM
Good luck making Mxy fly with the gen' aud'.
"You know you should make a Superman film? Brad Bird." by hank henshaw	Apr 24th, 2008 12:53:42 PM
I agree with DevilCat. Based on The Iron Giant I presume Brad Bird is a fan of Superman. Too bad it'll never happen.
Come On... by Herb West	Apr 24th, 2008 12:53:46 PM
Real estate scams were really cool in 1948.
I'm wary of the Akira remake by theredtoad	Apr 24th, 2008 12:56:05 PM
Leo as Kaneda? Hrmm... i dunno.. kinda iffy..
Herb West by Underoos Hero	Apr 24th, 2008 12:56:20 PM
True
Just out of curiosity.... by Cletus Van Damme	Apr 24th, 2008 12:57:06 PM
...can you kill a kid in a Superman movie?
Who's Handling the Conan trilogy? by Underoos Hero	Apr 24th, 2008 12:57:23 PM
This is what I'm looking forward to the most. Mostly.
fat bears... by UltimaRex	Apr 24th, 2008 12:57:32 PM
I never said you cannot kill Richard...
Cletus Van Damme by Underoos Hero	Apr 24th, 2008 12:59:11 PM
Goddamned right you can! Like I said before. Have a CGI Richard Pryor throw his little ass into Niagra Falls. You don't have to actually show it though. Just cut the camera at the last minute and suggest it.
McMaggot in the shit by toadkillerdog	Apr 24th, 2008 12:59:35 PM
I thank you for liking my screen name.
What If.... by Herb West	Apr 24th, 2008 01:02:15 PM
We CGI Richard Pryor having a crack pipe blow up in his face and then have Supes fly in and put it out with his freeze breath. That's something I would pay to see.
SUPERMAN 4: QUEST FOR PEACE > SUPERMAN RETURNS by billybobhoyle	Apr 24th, 2008 01:02:18 PM
Come on, come on, give me Darkseid. Enough of the Luthor crap.
Kill Richard! by fat bears	Apr 24th, 2008 01:03:33 PM
Kill him and then have his intelligencec preserved in Brainiac's kryptonian computers until he gets a fancy-pants cyborg body and comes back to Metropolis with amnesia thinking he's Supes, until he gets his memory comes back and goes ape-shit on Supes for taking his kid, his wife and his life....
UltimaRex.. by OBSD	Apr 24th, 2008 01:06:05 PM
Oh, you could make it work. Here's how you make the character work. You don't have to make him a midget or give him a stupid costume. That would look dumb. First, get Gilbert Gottfried to play him. He's perfect. Secondly, put him in a purple suit with a bowler hat (both of those things are from the aimated series, but stay with me) Third, think about it. Who is Mxy? He's a being of godlike power who loves to fuck with people and is completely bored out of his skull. Along comes Superman who is the most exciting thing he's seen in a while, and he becomes obsessed. If you think of him in terms of a nerdy annoying fanboy stalker with a fragile ego who also has near-unlimited power, there is potential there. And I think the general audience can relate to the idea of the creepy weirdo who just won't leave you alone.
What If by Underoos Hero	Apr 24th, 2008 01:08:19 PM
Supes and his Teenage Super Son (played by Shia of course) is flying around one day and with his super vision Teen Supe sees CGI Richard in an alley smokin' some crack, flies down, smack the crack pipe out of his hand and gives him the "Just Say No" Mrs. Reagan speech. Then an all cracked out CGI Pryor tells them both to fuck off. Then Supe looks around to see if anyone is looking and with his Kryptonian powers inflicks CGI Pryor with MS.
Why rebooting wouldn't hurt business: by blindambition238	Apr 24th, 2008 01:08:21 PM
I think SR was a decent movie too, but just not the grand return we were waiting for. I'd say Superman is Superman whether they reboot him or not. Like other icons such Batman or James Bond, its going to make money no matter what.
I wonder if we'll get to see where the money went this time? by BiggusDickus	Apr 24th, 2008 01:09:14 PM

Did they already do An Angry god Superman? by mistergreen	Apr 24th, 2008 01:11:54 PM
Remember when he turned evil when exposed to Kryptonite? Was that Sups 3 or 4? It had Richard Prior in it.
Did they already do An Angry god Superman? by Herb West	Apr 24th, 2008 01:13:32 PM
Yes. Now they've remade it. It's called Hancock.
Underoos Hero by Herb West	Apr 24th, 2008 01:15:05 PM
"Then Supes looks around to see if anyone is looking and with his Kryptonian powers inflicts CGI Pryor with MS." That was bad. Even for you.
Herb West by Underoos Hero	Apr 24th, 2008 01:16:37 PM
HA! Sorry.
"Then Supes looks around to see if anyone is looking and with hi by blindambition238	Apr 24th, 2008 01:16:58 PM
Is that before or after he uses his heat vision to light him on fire?
YOU CANNOT KILL A KID IN A SUPERMAN MOVIE! by UltimaRex	Apr 24th, 2008 01:25:29 PM
Last time today I promise.
When threads die... by Herb West	Apr 24th, 2008 01:27:02 PM
they really die, don't they? Wow.
How About This... by Underoos Hero	Apr 24th, 2008 01:31:33 PM
Jimmy Olsen is hanging out one night in his favorite gay club David's when low and behold he spots Clark Kent tearing up the dance floor with this hot shirtless Latin dude. Olsen cannot beleive what he see. Not only does he not beleieve that Clark may be gay but just can't get over how he's cuttin' a rug. Clark seems to to be "floating" on air as he jukes up and down the catwalk. Jimmy is filled with anxiety (Clark or no one knows yet that he is gay) and happiness at the same time because he has always had a man crush on Clark. They do work close together everyday. Jimmy sits and watchs as this shitless Latin dude gets all of Clarks attention and he becomes insanely jealous. Jimmy makes his move and decides enough is enough!. It's his time to come out and shine. So he puts his drink down, heads toward a vogueing Supe and cuts in between Clark and the sweaty shirtless, long dark haired Latin dude. "Can I have this vogue"? Asks Jimmy with his little hair parted and whisping to the side. Shocked, Clark looks down and pauses. "I thought you'd never ask." he says. They violently grab each other as they start to Rumba across the dance floor. The night leads to hot super sex and they find themselves the next day feeling uncomfortable at work. Lois is mad because she can't figure out why Clark is blowing her off and does'nt want to hear about Kid Supes first baseball game that he missed. Long story short. Supes and Jimmy move to California, get married, adopt Little SUpe and Superman fights a cracked out CGI Richard Pryor while Jimmy takes pictures for the newspaper.
Call it: Superman: Men of Steel by Underoos Hero	Apr 24th, 2008 01:36:21 PM

Underoos Hero by Herb West	Apr 24th, 2008 01:40:04 PM
Hilarious. "Shocked, Clark looks down and pauses. "I thought you'd never ask." he says. They violently grab each other as they start to Rumba across the dance floor." Classic. It made me have a laughing fit for a litle while.
There won't be a Superman sequel by hallmitchell	Apr 24th, 2008 01:40:16 PM
They can't even get Justice League up. Superman returns sucked. I said to my friends it will be another twenty years before you see another superman project. It's odds on that Bryan Singers next movie with Tom Cruise will flop. So I don't see Warner Bros will be too gung ho over this.
WB should pay close attention here by filmfanatic1	Apr 24th, 2008 01:40:54 PM
Within all this sarcasm here are some good ideas here for Singer and WB; they should go back to the old Superman animated stories, like Darkseid invading the Earth and brainwashing Supes, and reimagine them live.
I mean... by Herb West	Apr 24th, 2008 01:41:11 PM
little while.
Superman isn't selfless by Bass Ackwards	Apr 24th, 2008 01:41:18 PM
He spends half his day parading around as Clark Kent, how many people around the world are dying while he's making googly eyes at Lois? That's a story line I've always wanted to see addressed, at some point in his career Superman has to realize the futility of Clark Kent and just go full time superhero, of all the superheros, Superman is the least in need of an alter ego. Just be the man of steel dude.
Clark Kent by Herb West	Apr 24th, 2008 01:43:05 PM
gotta eat too!
I am a HUGE Superman fan...and SR DID suck. by Brians Life	Apr 24th, 2008 01:43:37 PM
I mean it's better than Spidey 3, but BARELY. It still amazes me that NO ONE told those teenagers that Singer keeps around that wrote the script that it SUUUUUUUUCKED. A Superman movie is NOT an impossibility....Singer just flat out missed the point. He had a story to tell, but it wasn't a Superman story. And those defending it...STOP IT! It was not a good movie.
Herb West by Underoos Hero	Apr 24th, 2008 01:45:16 PM
hhahaaha. Jimmy didn't even touch the floor that night and cut his ankle a little bit on the ceiling fan.
Is Superman Clark Kent or Vice Versa!?! Thoughts. by Brians Life	Apr 24th, 2008 01:46:09 PM
I mean...Singer clearly went with the notion that Kent is merely a visage. I'm not a fan of that take, as I really like what John Byrne did in the 80's w/ Supes. To go further you could say that Singer's Superman had really NO characterization...I felt that BOTH were simply a mask he puts on.
Brians Life by Herb West	Apr 24th, 2008 01:46:41 PM
Yeah, I really can't believe that any studio even greenlit a movie with a script like that.
Underoos Hero by Herb West	Apr 24th, 2008 01:47:58 PM
At least we know you're not homophobic.
And No more Lex Luthor by hallmitchell	Apr 24th, 2008 01:48:31 PM
He sucks. Sick of him. Give Brad Bird a call. I hate Superman Returns. It should of done for Superman what Batman Begins did for Batman. I remember seeing the preview and thought the preview sucked. I thought there was no way the movie would be that bad and it was. I don't get people who defend this film. It's like defending Transformers.
Herb...it's the case of "can do no wrong" by Brians Life	Apr 24th, 2008 01:50:07 PM
...Studios are blinded at times by cases of back to back successes. Singer was HOT..he was literally being fought over by major studios. But COME ON...that screenplay was point by point BAD MEDICINE!!! All yes men...
hallmitchell by Herb West	Apr 24th, 2008 01:50:27 PM
It's like defending Transformers. Exactly the same.
That sounds ridiculous by Doctor Phibes	Apr 24th, 2008 01:52:28 PM
I am so tired of the Christian analogies people keep making with Superman. SUPERMAN IS NOT JESUS. What's next? Batman delivers the Ten Commandments?
Brians Life by Herb West	Apr 24th, 2008 01:52:39 PM
Yeah, you're right come to think of it. I remember something about the Studios giving Singer full creative control.
I'M looking at things through rose colored glasses? by GibsonUSA	Apr 24th, 2008 01:53:01 PM
1. $200 million domestic box office. 2. $190 million worldwide. 3. 77% fresh score on Rottentomatoes. 4. A restart on a franchise after two decades and the beginning of a new merchandising machine. And you want a REBOOT?? WTF?? Tell me how you made your millions cause I doubt it was through business sense. You have people on here saying overdramatic crap like Superman IV was better and treating SR like a B&R franchise crusher, and you're callin me rose colored glasses....uh huh.
Hey Jarv by spud mcspud	Apr 24th, 2008 01:53:10 PM
You just pissing off all the homos today, aren't you? Never mind, I got your back. Takes the heat off the ol' Spud :D To those who DON'T hate SUPERMAN RETURNS: STOP TRYING TO DEFEND THE INDEFUCKINGFENSIBLE!!! We're talking about a movie that has (a) a stalker Superman, (b) an orange on a toothpick for Lois Lane (that's a huge noggin'! That heid's so big it's got it's own weather system!), (c) Kevin fucking Spacey as Lex Luthor (AMERICAN BEAUTY was a loooooooooooooong time ago), (d) James fucking Marsden playing the exact same wet dude he plays in ENCHANted, and (e) An Act III climax that involves the wuss Marsden piloting a Cessna (containing an unconscious Supes) out of the way of a really big fucking wave. Yep, that's a big part of the climax. One sequence involving saving a plane or Space Shuttle does not excuse the fuckjuggling nature of such an incomprehensibly shit plot. SR was shite - very, very expensive shite. And it's not like you didn't see this coming with the insomnia-blasting inertia of X-MEN 1 and 2. By God, those movies were fucking boring, not to mention MAJORLY miscast. "The waaaaaaaaaaaaar has begaaaaaarn", indeed. Singer: do the decent thing and just don't do anything ever again in Hollywood. Ever.
Superman 2: Men of Steel by Underoos Hero	Apr 24th, 2008 01:53:28 PM
Recap: Superman comes completely out of the closet and becomes a spokesman for gay rights and adds a little green color to his costume to fully represent the colors of the rainbow. He is asked to run for president but Jimmy just wants his man to start settling down a little more and use his powers for other goods. Jimmy would also like for his man Supes to loose the big red boots and go with the Doc Martins sponsorship.
Singer's STUPID "sci-fi stuff" comment... by Brians Life	Apr 24th, 2008 01:54:45 PM
This pisses me off. When pressed about the sequel last year Singer (recognizing people's complaints about SR) said "there will be plenty of scary sci-fi stuff in the next one." AS THOUGH THAT'S ALL WE WANTED!?!?! I think this shows that Singer just doesn't really GET Superman... I'm not saying you HAVE to be a fan to make the movie...but you have to understand who the character is. He just didnt.
herb / hallmitchell by spud mcspud	Apr 24th, 2008 01:56:55 PM
Not strictly true comparing defending SUPERMAN RETURNS (TO STALK LOIS LANE) to TRANSFORM MEGAN'S BRA OFF. Mainly because (a) Though it didn't make sense, the climax of TRANSFORMERS was some awe-inspiring mayhem, not James fucking Marsden vs The Perfect Storm. At least the action in it was fucking SPECTACULAR!!! There's something overwhelmingly shit about being destroyed by Kevin Spacey and a glowing rock, compared to several hundred-feet tall robots causing TOTAL FUCKING DESTRUCTION! Second: Kate Bostworth or Megan Fox? Don't be so fucking stupid. TRANSFORMERS 1, SUPES 0. Spud wins!
JLA: PAIN OF THE GODS by spud mcspud	Apr 24th, 2008 01:59:08 PM
Just read that graphic novel then film it. Word for word, panel for panel. It'd be the best JLA movie you could hope for, AND it gives Superman something decent to get into.
Doctor Phibes...religious analogies are... by Brians Life	Apr 24th, 2008 01:59:10 PM
very common with Superman and I don't really see the point in them much either...the Christ comparison is even weirder...I can SEE a MOSES comparison though and that's been touted alot. Especially since Siegel and Shuster were Jews.
spud mcspud by Herb West	Apr 24th, 2008 02:02:39 PM
I have to agree. I think as far as movies go TRANSFORMERS was better than SUPERMAN RETURNS as a whole (not that I would ever consider it a good movie). But the word you are looking for is Bayhem, not mayem.
The only good thing about Transformers... by Brians Life	Apr 24th, 2008 02:07:11 PM
...was that it didn't cost as much as Superman and Spider-Man 3...and somehow the SFX were a million times better. There are several scenes in SR w/ a fully CGed Supes and it was looking Shreky
And yes... by Herb West	Apr 24th, 2008 02:07:57 PM
the climax of both TRANSFORMERS and SUPERMAN RETURNS sucked, just for totally different reasons.
GibsonUSA - Not so super returns by toadkillerdog	Apr 24th, 2008 02:08:58 PM
If your numbers are accurate - and I do not doubt they are, that is a piss poor performance. Consider: SR cost upwards of 200m to make. Now, factor in the enormous PR campaign - say 20m. Factor in the bite of the ticket price that the theater chains cut off the top, 50% - lets say 100M, and suddenly you are looking at a worldwide gross profit of 70M. My guess is the film made some money - barely, but did not meet expectations for the amount that was put into it.
Bring back... by Kid Z	Apr 24th, 2008 02:09:14 PM
...Rebuild-the-Great Wall of China-vision!
Sometimes I like Routh by Brians Life	Apr 24th, 2008 02:09:16 PM
Still on the fence w/ him as Supes. He was the thing I thought I'd dislike most about the movie and ended up WAY down the list. Plus I've seen him driving around L.A. on Melrose in a BEAT UP like 96 Tercel...so maybe he's got some character.
$200 million is a "benchmark" to some people?? by Deadbeat Dads Are Super Man	Apr 24th, 2008 02:09:43 PM
How is it that the genius above wants to question OTHER PEOPLE'S "business sense" when talking about a film that didn't even make a profit in it's theatrical run? Does Einstein up there not realize that movies are made to MAKE money?
um, Superman is totally a Christ analogy by oisin5199	Apr 24th, 2008 02:10:48 PM
or from a more a cross-cultural perspective, a manifested sun god analogy. He came from 'beyond the stars' (the heavens, the gods) raised by a human family, has 'miraculous' powers, is seen as a 'savior.' But Superman is also an immigrant story, the story of a foreigner fully assimilating into American society. Or wish-fulfillment for nerds who fantasized about being Superman underneath their Clark Kent glasses. Superman is archetypal, a complex layer of narratives. I'll echo GibsonUSA (and as I've always said here), Singer's Superman played with these archetypes and narratives in intelligent and interesting ways, just not the ways fanboys wanted. I can't wait to see what he does next. And if you think the husband and son characters were stupid then you missed the point of the entire film.
Gibson... by Brians Life	Apr 24th, 2008 02:11:27 PM
making money does not a good movie make...and also, it BARELY was green-lit for a sequel. Also, Rotten Tomatoes is a so/so source since critics are so fuckin fickle and 1/4 of American is retarded.
$200 million by Herb West	Apr 24th, 2008 02:13:01 PM
Actually I remember SR had a budget of $250 million.
oisin5199 by Underoos Hero	Apr 24th, 2008 02:14:46 PM
I really beleive that when Superman was originaly conceived, it was not all that deep. I think they were just trying to create a cool character with this cool back story and as the character evolved, they started to see all of these connections you mention.
Yep, that pretty much sums up SR... by Kid Z	Apr 24th, 2008 02:15:32 PM
...the friggin' STAR of the pic ends up driving around LA in a beat-up 96 Tercel!
Oisin...do you think that's derived or intended though? by Brians Life	Apr 24th, 2008 02:15:40 PM
I mean specifically the Christ aspect, as I'm sure there was some religious analogy intended by Siegel and Shuster.... Also, I think that simply writing off complaints about the movie as "fanboys not getting what they want" is a bad generalization. Please tell me what you found intelligent and interesting about the movie!?
Love the Singer Fanboys... by Deadbeat Dads Are Super Man	Apr 24th, 2008 02:16:32 PM
They are on a "whole 'notha level" than the rest of us. See, they "got" what Singer crapped out, oblivious to the STINK. I guess the ability to blindly ignore things somehow equates to intelligence?
Deadbeat Dads Are Super Man by Herb West	Apr 24th, 2008 02:19:14 PM
Yeah, it's kind of like the epidemic of Lucas/Star Wars Fanboys.
check this out by GavinVanDraven	Apr 24th, 2008 02:19:54 PM
http://www.cra cked.com/art icle_16176_8-pointless-laws-al l-comic-book-movies-follow.htm l you know it had to be said sooner or later. these movies are all to formula
Superman Returns... by poeticwarriorII	Apr 24th, 2008 02:21:21 PM
was a bucket of steaming pig vomit topped with whipped breast milk and served at room temperature. Surely the powers that be won't let this idiot anywhere near another Superman movie? After hearing this latest bit of bullshit they clearly don't get what the fuck they're trying to do anyway so maybe they'll go all wrath of khan that makes god angry or some stupid shit like that. Whatever, this is fucked before it even starts. And someone bury that stupid fucking kid in a coffin made of kryptonite and done with the fucked up idea.
See what happens when there is no new movie news here. by Underoos Hero	Apr 24th, 2008 02:22:26 PM
We keep posting on a stale talkback just to get our fix. And I am cracked the fuck out right now.
Herb West by Deadbeat Dads Are Super Man	Apr 24th, 2008 02:24:09 PM
Do you think both groups come together in an annual "Fanboy Convention For Ignorant Teenagers Who Like To Call Other People Fanboys"? I hear they hold it in a dank, musky basement they re-named the "Death Star Of Solitude And Child Support Evasion"....
Rejected Superman Returns Titles by Brians Life	Apr 24th, 2008 02:24:41 PM
These were posted a while back, don't know who was the genius.... The Adventures of Sea-Pilot and His Lying Shitty Family Superman vs. Lex Luthor, the villian when left to his own devices...fails. Fuck, I can't remember the rest.
"worst Lois Lane in the history of Superman" by PurityOfEssence	Apr 24th, 2008 02:29:52 PM
Sorry I've seen Smallville - Durance easily out preforms in that capacity.
To steal from Hancock... by Deadbeat Dads Are Super Man	Apr 24th, 2008 02:32:18 PM
A good title for Superman Returns? "Tonight, He Comes. Then, He Goes".
Wait wait WAIT by Chilli815	Apr 24th, 2008 02:39:49 PM
X-Men 2 is being dissed? WHAT THE HELL? Sorry, no, X-Men II is a perfect comic-book film. SR was a great flick for me, but it was nowhere near X-Men II.
Deadbeat Dads Are Super Man by Herb West	Apr 24th, 2008 02:39:50 PM
Yeah, something like that.
Herb West by Chilli815	Apr 24th, 2008 02:40:08 PM
WRONG
Chilli815 by Herb West	Apr 24th, 2008 02:42:14 PM
What are you talking about?
YOU CANNOT KILL SUPERMAN IN A SPIDERMAN MOVIE! by random dude	Apr 24th, 2008 02:45:17 PM

Chilli815 by Herb West	Apr 24th, 2008 02:45:51 PM
What am I wrong about?
Herb by Chilli815	Apr 24th, 2008 02:50:17 PM
Remember that scene where Lex Luthor yells WRONG to Lois? Notice how in the end, his plan does fail? My post was like that, a tongue in cheek arguement against all logic.
Anyway... by Herb West	Apr 24th, 2008 02:50:20 PM
That Cracked article was funny and true. http://tinyurl.com/4asxu8 One of the better ones I've seen over there.
YOU CANNOT KILL SUPERMAN IN THE WICKER MAN by Chilli815	Apr 24th, 2008 02:50:59 PM
Although many lesbians have tried.
Herb West by Deadbeat Dads Are Super Man	Apr 24th, 2008 02:51:01 PM
I believe that is his misguided attempt to say you were incorrect, but in an insulting manner. See, he used a line from Superman Returns, and he LOVED Superman Returns. Take THAT! You feel the burn yet? Mild irritation? An itch? Anything?
Chilli815 by Herb West	Apr 24th, 2008 02:52:24 PM
I don't remember. That must have been one of the many times I nodded off during that movie.
YOU CANNOT KILL A KID IN A SUPERMAN MOVIE! by Deadbeat Dads Are Super Man	Apr 24th, 2008 02:56:53 PM
BUT YOU CAN LIE TO HIM ABOUT HIS PARENTAGE AND MAKE HIM A SUPER BASTARD!
Fuck that noise by kungfuhustler84	Apr 24th, 2008 03:01:24 PM
I am way more excited for Where the Wild Things are and (HOLY SHIT!!) a Paradise Lost movie? And of course, you would be most interested in the Lucifer storyline dipshit, he's the protagonist of the story. I have no idea how they will do it, it will probably not hold up to the freakin tremendous standards set by Milton's original (one of the greatest pieces of literature ever) but I am looking forward to one person's translation of the text. To tell you the truth, I was hoping someday I could give it a shot. It's a story I have been fascinated with since I read it about five summers ago. Guess if I ever get the chance, I will just have to go above and beyond to show them how to REALLY bring Milton's words to life. ;)
SUPER BASTARD by Herb West	Apr 24th, 2008 03:01:59 PM
Death to the Super Bastard!
Superman is only interesting as a mythic figure by darthvedder81	Apr 24th, 2008 03:05:09 PM
I love Superman but I can see why people consider him to be the most "boring" of the superheros--he's invincible. That's what was so great about what both Donner and Singer did: they focused on the human conflict of Kal-El and the mythic, spiritual dimension of the character. That's the aspect of Superman that I like and it's also what makes him different then any other superhero. Hollywood has been churning out big-budget superhero movies like crazy that throw nothing but action and effects on the screen. Then when somebody tries to do something different people balk. I don't get that.
From IMDB: Paradise Lost by Herb West	Apr 24th, 2008 03:06:26 PM
"Lucifer's failed rebellion in heaven brings about Adam and Eve's fall from grace." Could be cool if done right.
Superman Returns was "different"? by Deadbeat Dads Are Super Man	Apr 24th, 2008 03:09:00 PM
Really?
that cracked article is.... by GavinVanDraven	Apr 24th, 2008 03:10:26 PM
pretty damn accurate. i would like to see a superhero movie where NONE of that same shit gets used. does the hero have to turn bad in part 3? fight a bad version of himself? lose his powers? show an origin story? have his hideout invaded? reveal his identity to someone? i mean come on now.... every superhero movie is guilty of this shit...
kungfuhustler84 by Herb West	Apr 24th, 2008 03:10:31 PM
Where can I read it? Can you find it online and do you have a link for it?
I've got it! by Herb West	Apr 24th, 2008 03:12:12 PM
Superman Returns 2: Burn, Bastard Burn.
I want Clash of the Titans...NOW!!!! by ganymede3010	Apr 24th, 2008 03:12:50 PM
That movie done with todays effects will be instant fucking classic. You heard it here first!
Kill the kid, seriously by liljuniorbrown	Apr 24th, 2008 03:14:46 PM
I think if they brought in Brainiac or Darkside , have them hunting down the last son of Krypton only to kill off the kid in the process, we would really see an "angry God" . I'm all for Supes being pissed to the point of wanting to murder which ever super villan took his sons life. Until a Superman movie is made that includes a real deal Universe ending threat we aren't going to see anything cool. Thats just the opinion of one die hard Superman fan.
No, I'VE got it! by Deadbeat Dads Are Super Man	Apr 24th, 2008 03:17:14 PM
Superman Returns From Evading The Office of Child Support Enforcement.
Go Golden Age by Skraggo	Apr 24th, 2008 03:19:15 PM
I'd like to see a Golden Age Superman movie done in the style of "Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow." Get a thirty-something year old MAN with a Charles Atlas physique and a chiseled jawline for the role and have him fight giant robots or something. Nobody wants to see a brooding "angry god" version of this character.
The Superman Returns Quagmire by Major Hockshtetter	Apr 24th, 2008 03:20:28 PM
Wow. I don't think a film has ever polarized the geek community more than this film called Superman Returns. Personally, I enjoyed it, but I was never a big reader of the comic and was raised on the Donner films. The overriding tone of sadness stemmed, I believe, from the idea that America is so far gone into its own cynicism that there's no more room for "truth, justice, and the American way." It's a thesis I agree with, hence why I was easy prey for this film. In fact, I was genuinely touched by it. While the action was lacking a bit, the action setpieces, I thought, were appropriately spectacular. Look, in this age of comic hero/anime/sci-fi oversaturation, I can totally understand why the bulk of this community detested SR. However, I do feel this film was made for what a wise old jedi once called "a more civilized age." End of useless sermon. Resume Singer-based gay bashing, oh nimrods of Talkback.
Honestly by Deadbeat Dads Are Super Man	Apr 24th, 2008 03:22:36 PM
It was LONG past-due for deadbeat dad's the world over to FINALLY have a hero to look up to. Giving a lame ass speech and a "I'm always around" instead of monetary compensation? Now THAT'S a role-model!
Skraggo by Herb West	Apr 24th, 2008 03:23:43 PM
I've been thinking the same thing. A superman movie set in the 50's or 60's might actually work. It may do for comic book movies what Fido did for the Zombie movie.
"Resume Singer-based gay bashing, oh nimrods of Talkback." by Deadbeat Dads Are Super Man	Apr 24th, 2008 03:26:18 PM
I see this Singer Fanboy has taken it a step BEYOND just "ignoring" the crap. He's actually started MAKING THINGS UP. Hey, can I do that too? There are plenty of shitty films that I WANTED to like, maybe I can imagine things that weren't there to "justify" loving it to myself? I think I'll start with The Mist.....
gotham_night by Herb West	Apr 24th, 2008 03:28:39 PM
He did at the end and did nothing but stalk them! Asinine. Really, those writers had to have been high when they came up with the whole thing about the kid.
God, you still think Superman Returns wasn't a piece of shit? by Deadbeat Dads Are Super Man	Apr 24th, 2008 03:28:54 PM
Not only then was he a deadbeat dad, but a fucking moron too. Watch the movie again, people lacking brain cells.
Deadbeat Dads by Major Hockshtetter	Apr 24th, 2008 03:35:55 PM
Sorry that your pops took the high road on ya' (which certainly must account for your hypersensativity on this topic) but that's no reason to drop a duece all over a simple comic book movie and its supporters. And, um, I'm not really a Singer Fanboy, per se, but I am partial to the works of Isao Takahata...
The worst thing about the kid..... by Herb West	Apr 24th, 2008 03:36:06 PM
is that there is absolutely no where to go from there! The only way they could carry on with this storyline is if they kill the kid off! I dare anyone to come up with any other way to move on with the kid in a sequel without it becoming even more ridiculous.
Making sure? by Deadbeat Dads Are Super Man	Apr 24th, 2008 03:38:49 PM
Wow. Hey, next time a friend, or in gotham-night's case YOU, catch a stalking case, just tell the judge you were "Making sure _____ was fine". His next words undoubtedly will be: "I find the defendant Not Guilty". Right?
gotham_night by Herb West	Apr 24th, 2008 03:39:52 PM
Why would he be making sure Lois was fine if he hated her?
Major Hocksh by Deadbeat Dads Are Super Man	Apr 24th, 2008 03:42:35 PM
Ah yes, a Singer Fanboy in his "element". Pointing out the ludicrousy of attacking a film that he himself was just defending, while ignoring the ludicrousy of said defense. Well, allow me to retort in a way you can relate to: I know you are, but what am I?
Problem with Lex Luthor? by spud mcspud	Apr 24th, 2008 03:42:37 PM
It's inherent in the set-up. No matter how you look at it, a Supes-Luthor plot will inevitably end up with a scene where an invinicble, invulnerable, superstrong, laser-visioned flying alien superhero is on his knees in front of a bald, egomaniacal human with a lump of glowing rock in his hands. And that just ain't a riveting climax to ANY movie, let alone a Superman one. Dump Luthor, move on. There's a cheap gay joke somewhere in there, but it's late and I'm tired...
Making sure? by Herb West	Apr 24th, 2008 03:42:38 PM
"Making sure _____ was fine". His next words undoubtedly will be: "I find the defendant Not Guilty". Right? AhhhHaHaHa
Deadbeat Dads by Major Hockshtetter	Apr 24th, 2008 03:46:12 PM
er....huh?
Hold on...PARADISE LOST?!?! by deathbird	Apr 24th, 2008 03:47:13 PM
Fuck Superman. When was THIS announced? And when are they going to resurrect David Lean to helm this thing?
SUPERMANOS: THE HANDS OF FATE by turketron	Apr 24th, 2008 03:48:10 PM
yesss!!!
Major Ho by Deadbeat Dads Are Super Man	Apr 24th, 2008 03:48:36 PM
Don't hurt yourself, ok?
Superman has a few beers and flings a piano at his baby mama by turketron	Apr 24th, 2008 03:49:10 PM
he's the superman bitch
Nice comeback.... by Deadbeat Dads Are Super Man	Apr 24th, 2008 03:52:18 PM
gotham_night. Upset that there was no late-night stalking, or perverted x-ray vision peeping in X3? How about deadbeating? Heavy lifting?
Around 6 hours to go... by UltimaRex	Apr 24th, 2008 03:54:05 PM
I did promise.
i believe by mrbong	Apr 24th, 2008 03:56:06 PM
i would rather eat my own unshaved arse that sit through Superman Returns ever again. and now they want to make another one? dear me, leave these poor people alone, they have suffered enough.
So gotham_night IS an idiot! by Deadbeat Dads Are Super Man	Apr 24th, 2008 03:56:37 PM
So, in YOUR world, stalking is only stalking when it's Assault? Let's take wagers on how many Restraining Orders this guy currently has open. I say two....
WTF? by Deadbeat Dads Are Super Man	Apr 24th, 2008 04:02:19 PM
Am I being "Punk'd"? 'cuz there's NO WAY gotham_night is a real human being. Where are you Ashton??
Superman Returns 2: The Tables Have Turned by Deadbeat Dads Are Super Man	Apr 24th, 2008 04:07:08 PM
In the sequel, have Bosworth's teenage boy looking Lois & family set-up shop right outside the Fortress of Solitude. Binoculars all around. Superman keeps getting that feeling of being watched, but just can never catch her doing it. This makes him ANGRY, and he starts LIFTING THINGS WORLDWIDE! Remote control? LIFTED. See-Saw? LIFTED-LIFTED. Brandon Routh's career? Alas, not even a Superman can lift THAT up....
SPOILER by Achilles420	Apr 24th, 2008 04:08:09 PM
Superman a Cylon
EMO SUPERMAN! by alice 13	Apr 24th, 2008 04:10:54 PM
yay! i bet he combs his hair over his face.
I HEARD IT!.... by Herb West	Apr 24th, 2008 04:10:55 PM
gotham_night admitted that Superman is a creepy stalker! AND THE TRUTH SHALL SET YOU FREE! But please, don't stop. This is better than Jerry Springer!
What the hell are they thinking? by -888	Apr 24th, 2008 04:12:27 PM
An angry Superman is almost as stupid as a campy Batman. For Christ's sake, treat the characters with some respect. A Brad Bird Superman would be phenomenal. While they're at it, they should get Grant Morrison to write the goddamn thing -- his recent All-Star Superman captured everything that's great about that character. I think he'd write the perfect Superman movie. The original Richard Donner movie wasn't perfect -- bad, bad, bad plotting in the second half, etc etc -- but Donner's representation of the character was perfect and dead-on. But we still don't have a grand slam Superman movie. It would be nice. They should put some time and care and thought into it and do it right. They finally did Batman correctly, so maybe asking for a great Superman movie as well is asking too much, I dunno. What the hell, what the hell...
Airplane scene was pretty good by -888	Apr 24th, 2008 04:16:05 PM
The only decent scene in Superman Returns was the bit with the airplane. And then, after he saved the airplane, how he walked on and said, "Is everybody all right?" That was an appropriately Superman thing to say. The rest of the movie was bullshit.
sure it sounds promising by novembre13	Apr 24th, 2008 04:17:43 PM
but do you really think that "they" are going to make a superman movie that has some sort of depth to it? the masses want to see him fly and save people from stuff and fight bad guys. and that's all we'll ever get. want depth? read the comics.
I know what would make him "angry" in a sequel! by Deadbeat Dads Are Super Man	Apr 24th, 2008 04:24:08 PM
Condoms and Wage Garnishment.
Superman Airplane Scene by Herb West	Apr 24th, 2008 04:28:38 PM
http://tinyurl.com/4f2yqw Don't waste time with watching this turd again. This is the only decent part.
A Superman movie doesn't need to be particularly deep by -888	Apr 24th, 2008 04:28:48 PM
I mean, I pretty much want him to fly around and fight bad guys and save people from stuff. That's sorta what you want from a Superman movie (same way that in a Batman movie you want him to brood, train, punch people and jump off buildings). It doesn't have to be freakin' Beckett, it just has to be the character, and the character isn't all that angry in my mind. Again, Grant Morrison's All-Star Superman stories exhibit a pretty strong grip on what makes the character work. But that version of the character is not "deep" in any way that'd make it unfilmable or non-commercial. Far from it.
ghey by Puddleglum	Apr 24th, 2008 04:32:26 PM

Hey Herb... by Deadbeat Dads Are Super Man	Apr 24th, 2008 04:34:07 PM
Watch it again, and tell me this isn't the funniest part: After saving the shuttle FIRST, the shuttle that was in no danger and carrying THREE people, he stops to watch it fly off into space, then casually turns around with a look on his face that says "Oh yeah, I forgot about the 747 hurtling to Earth with 100 people on it. My bad!".
Singer was banging hookers and doing drugs on X2 set? by blindambition238	Apr 24th, 2008 04:37:17 PM
http://tinyurl.com/5gxmdo Its says Ratner in the headline but the author adds an update at the bottom of the article saying that if Uwe isn't lying, its likely he was talking about Singer and X2.
Forgot to add that Uwe Boll claims Singer was doing hookers' by blindambition238	Apr 24th, 2008 04:39:54 PM

you do know Singer is Out of Closet Gay by Phategod2	Apr 24th, 2008 04:42:06 PM
Just saying
this could work......... by sonnyhooper	Apr 24th, 2008 04:44:27 PM
......and it could work for the reason many people hate SR: the kid. forgive me if this has be suggested allready but the talkback is too long and i don't have time to read it. this is all about fatherhood. i don't know how many of you are fathers out there, but those who are imagine someone hurting your kid, imagine all the things you would do to spare your child an ounce of pain. now imagine you are superman. that is the heart of the matter. as a father, if i were superman, and looked around the world i would be an "angry god". i would see the type of world my child is going to inherent and i would be pissed. i would go to the middle east and declare; "enough. you little people will learn to get along or i will show you a fucking holy war". that kind of thing is what makes an "angry god" superman very intresting to me.
Don't they prefer.. by Deadbeat Dads Are Super Man	Apr 24th, 2008 04:44:40 PM
the term "male escorts" over "hookers"? gotham_night, jump right in.
Deadbeat Dads Are Super Man by Herb West	Apr 24th, 2008 04:47:08 PM
Yeah, that was pretty funny. "Sorry, I got distracted while I was checking out the female pilot of the shuttle with my X-ray vision. That's what creepy stalkers like me do, you know."
Wait, did somebody actually IMDB Paradise Lost by Bass Ackwards	Apr 24th, 2008 04:48:25 PM
...to get the plot line?
That's the perfect formula... by Deadbeat Dads Are Super Man	Apr 24th, 2008 04:48:35 PM
For an even WORSE Superman film! Pat yourself on the back, sonny boy!
Yea.... I know he was gay, theres another article under by blindambition238	Apr 24th, 2008 04:48:38 PM
that one that kind of elaborates the type of hooker he was seeing. And I hope to god its not true cause if it is he is really fucked up.
A better way to "deal" with the Kid by Phategod2	Apr 24th, 2008 04:48:44 PM
I came up with this last year simple and effective, Turn him into Kalibeck have Darkseid kidnap child and have him turned.
SUPERMASN RETURNS SUCKED! by Olee Starstone	Apr 24th, 2008 04:50:09 PM
Thats all i got.
Of course its Uwe Boll by blindambition238	Apr 24th, 2008 04:50:29 PM
So hes probably just bs-ing again. Then again he called Michael Bay a fucking retard on video this month, so he actually won some respect for me. I think his score is at minus 1,99999 respect points.
Herb... by Deadbeat Dads Are Super Man	Apr 24th, 2008 04:51:34 PM
He was admiring her "birthin' hips".
Wow.... by Herb West	Apr 24th, 2008 04:53:17 PM
I had no idea Singer was a rump ranger!
"birthin' hips". by Herb West	Apr 24th, 2008 04:54:56 PM
Yeah, we need a second super brat for the sequel!
Child support just called me... by Underoos Hero	Apr 24th, 2008 04:55:16 PM
They found out that Supes is staying at my house while he's going through a rough time with his boyfriend Jimmy O. I'm not gay but I gotta help a friend out.
Get this.... by Underoos Hero	Apr 24th, 2008 04:58:48 PM
I just told child support to call Brian Singer and explained to them how it was his child and he was the bastards dad. ahaha. I had em' going.
Can't we all just agree to disagree? by JTStyler	Apr 24th, 2008 05:01:18 PM
I liked Superman Returns but I accept that many people actively hate it. I will never understand why people feel the need to personally insult people who enjoyed the film or Bryan Singer. At the end of the day, SR is just another film and Singer just another director, NOT the Antichrist. Oh and can we all be adults and leave the juvenile gay-bashing out of it. I feel that the general perception in the public regarding SR is somewhere in between the two poles ie. it's OK, I'd watch it on telly but I wouldn't buy it, rather than the Batman and Robin-style debacle some of you think it is. That being said with JL falling through (thank God), I think for better or worse we will see an SR sequel in 2010.
You would think... by Underoos Hero	Apr 24th, 2008 05:02:11 PM
You would think that with my bud Supes powers he could just go down to the child welfare office and pull em all out and show em who's boss. Then again, he couldn't even pull out of Lois.
i liked it too but by Phategod2	Apr 24th, 2008 05:03:45 PM
With all the Hate I have prescribed towards Micheal Bay and 75% of the senior staff of Transformers I can take The hate towards Singer and SR
3 out of the 5 Superman movies featured a Super-villain... by Ribbons	Apr 24th, 2008 05:04:39 PM
...and at least 2 out of those 3 were lousy. Although I wasn't over the moon for it, I don't think I'll ever understand the hatred that 'Superman Returns' engenders in fans, especially when there's a whole mediocre series' worth of counterpoints to some of the recurring opinions of what a Superman film "needs."
Go wait in line for a sequel. by Deadbeat Dads Are Super Man	Apr 24th, 2008 05:05:33 PM
I'm SURE you won't be disappointed. Hey, I bet there will be plenty of girls you can peep o..I mean, "make sure are ok", around the theater of your choice!
I still think.. by Underoos Hero	Apr 24th, 2008 05:06:01 PM
That a CGI Richard Pryor villain in the second Superman would be just fucking awesome.
JTStyler by Underoos Hero	Apr 24th, 2008 05:07:04 PM
Who's gay bashing?
gotham_night by Underoos Hero	Apr 24th, 2008 05:09:40 PM
Duh...What the hell were you expecting there?
fourhundredandfirst! by ironic_name	Apr 24th, 2008 05:10:01 PM
brad bird sucks cock for money.
I don't care who Superman fights... by Pops Freshemeyer	Apr 24th, 2008 05:11:45 PM
...just as long as they come up with somebody as completely badass as animated Luthor/Brainiac. And Clancy brown needs to play Lex. Seriously.
fuck, 8 people posted in the time it took the page to load. by ironic_name	Apr 24th, 2008 05:13:25 PM

Yeah.. by Herb West	Apr 24th, 2008 05:14:29 PM
Kevin Spacey may of been the worst Luthor in the history of film, and that's hard to do. Clancy brown needs to work more.
Lex and the kid need to die.. by Underoos Hero	Apr 24th, 2008 05:17:22 PM
Well as I stated before. Have the kid be a teenager now played by Shia Lebouf. Teen Supe is flying in to help his old pops when suddenly, with a crack pipe hanging out of his mouth....CGI Richard Pryor mumbles "Die Fuckers" and kills Lex and Teen Supe (shia) with a rain of Kryptonite bullets spewing from a cannon mounted on his wheelchair.
I just read what I wrote... by Underoos Hero	Apr 24th, 2008 05:20:30 PM
Omg..ahaha I was gigglin' so hard I think I just shit myself a little bit. Just a littel bit.
Underoos by Deadbeat Dads Are Super Man	Apr 24th, 2008 05:21:29 PM
Maybe he can say "two dead motherfuckers..at the SAME TIME?!"
Underoos Hero by Herb West	Apr 24th, 2008 05:23:00 PM
It's even better if you can actually get a mental image of that in your head.
And then... by Herb West	Apr 24th, 2008 05:23:56 PM
the crack pipe explodes in his face!
Herb, Deadbeats, and Underoos by Niaiserie	Apr 24th, 2008 05:30:23 PM
You guys are all the same poster right? I shudder to think that there's three separate people out there as stupid as your posts make you seem.
shie labarf by ironic_name	Apr 24th, 2008 05:32:58 PM

Yeah you're right. by Herb West	Apr 24th, 2008 05:33:19 PM
We're all the same person. Dumb Fuck.
shia labarf.. shot down in a belting of k-bullets by ironic_name	Apr 24th, 2008 05:33:39 PM
yeah!
paradise lost by novembre13	Apr 24th, 2008 05:33:51 PM
now there's a movie where green screen technology would actually work. but it'll never get made. it's too dense and the christians wouldn't like a sympathetic lucifer and all the religious-watchdog-fuckers would cry blasphemy and anyway it would end up being terrible anyway.
Too bad about Sam Raimi... by Doctor Cosmic	Apr 24th, 2008 05:35:14 PM
After all, it's clear from his take on Spider-Man that he really wanted to do Superman. It's too late now, of course. If the WB had ANY sense, they'd go ask Geoff Johns, who has made Superman comics readable again, to write a screenplay for a soft-reboot a la the new Hulk. Re-cast the whole shebang, and get Donner to direct (but NOT another Donnerverse film) or Brad Bird. But screw Singer and his leftist gay agenda. Doc
Deadbeat Dads, just coz your father walked out doesn't mean.. by ironic_name	Apr 24th, 2008 05:36:43 PM
superman is.
"religious-watchdog-fuckers... by Herb West	Apr 24th, 2008 05:36:59 PM
..would cry blasphemy and anyway it would end up being terrible anyway." OK, that's what happened with the Passion of the Christ and it made over a billion dollars in theaters alone. And yes, that's billion with a "B"
a Deadbeat Dad by ironic_name	Apr 24th, 2008 05:37:13 PM
superman isn't, I mean.
And Niaiserie... by Herb West	Apr 24th, 2008 05:45:17 PM
There's something unique about this talkback today. For one, it may be the funniest one I've ever seen. For two, this is one of those talkbacks that reaches over 400 posts that hasn't had anyone outright insult anybody else, and that's rare here. We've just been messing around and joking about Superman through the day. In fact, I'm pretty sure that you are the first person to insult somebody in this talkback. And that makes you a special kind of cunt.
herb west by novembre13	Apr 24th, 2008 05:51:48 PM
yes, it did make oodles of cash, but people are morbidly curious about that 'jesus' fella and anything that reinforces their guilt over what "he went through for us" is okay by them. but 'paradise lost' is different...these aren't just literary characters to them (i'm being general and not including your beliefs in this) they are god and the devil...the creator of all life and the father of lies. it has to do with heaven and hell and people that fervently believe in those things won't watch a movie based on them. "passion of the christ" was merely a modern day "10 commandments". "paradise lost" could be an epic fantasy like "l.o.t.r." or "star wars".
COOL HOBBIT NEWS!!! by stuntman mikey	Apr 24th, 2008 05:52:22 PM
Havent seen this posted here yet! Guillermo del Toro to direct 'Hobbit' Filmmaker signs on to film and its sequel By DAVE MCNARY In a major step forward on "The Hobbit," Guillermo del Toro has signed on to direct the New Line-MGM tentpole and its sequel. The widely expected announcement came Thursday afternoon jointly from exec producers Peter Jackson and Fran Walsh, New Line president Toby Emmerich and Mary Parent, the newly named chief of MGM's Worldwide Motion Picture Group. Del Toro's moving to New Zealand for the next four years to work with Jackson and his Wingnut and WETA production teams. He'll direct the two films back to back, with the sequel which will deal with the 60-year period between "The Hobbit" and "The Fellowship of the Ring," the first of the "Lord of the Rings" trilogy. New Line is overseeing development and will manage production. Both pics are being co-produced and co-financed by New Line Cinema and MGM, with Warner Bros. distributing domestically and MGM handling international. Del Toro most recently helmed "Pan's Labyrinth," released through New Line's Picturehouse. The fantasy set a record as the highest grossing Spanish language film in U.S. box office history.
novembre13 by Herb West	Apr 24th, 2008 05:55:16 PM
Fair enough.
Deadbeats and Underoos by Herb West	Apr 24th, 2008 06:03:20 PM
If you don't speak up soon, someone may think we really are the same person. gotham_night- Quick, bait 'im like only you can!
Glad I'm not the only one by Anakin Whoopass	Apr 24th, 2008 06:03:48 PM
who remembers the kid getting killed in Superman II, whichever cut of the movie it was. Jesus there's so much footage for Superman I and II they could probably make two or three more versions on DVD if Lester and Donner would be willing to share directing credit and Zombie Brando is still available.
Someone said "Get rid of the son..." by Aethyrr	Apr 24th, 2008 06:04:18 PM
Yes, please. Pretty please.
Anakin Whoopass by Herb West	Apr 24th, 2008 06:06:11 PM
What is this about a kid getting killed in Superman 2? Got any proof?
Wow, what happened? by Herb West	Apr 24th, 2008 06:13:17 PM
Is there an alternate title spam marathon going on or something?
They should have done a better job setting up the new films. by Pops Freshemeyer	Apr 24th, 2008 06:15:48 PM
Film 1: Superman is Superman, blah blah blah. Mongol comes along and threatens Earth. Superman ends up fighting him off, and the next film is set up by introducing Eradicator. Film 2: Everything is happy, until Superman discovers Eradicator is trying to turn Earth into Krypton (which would be like what we saw in SR). Superman wants to know why Eradicator is being retarded...turns out Brainiac has altered the Eradicator. Superman fights him off... Film 3: The battle between Superman and Eradicator/Brainiac draws the attention of Darkseid. Superman fights Darkseid under Pride FC rules and Darkseid head stomps and soccer kicks Superman to death. Okay, I guess the third film would've needed more work, but whatever.
DerLanghaarige is wrong I tell you wrong what the next movie nee by dihay	Apr 24th, 2008 06:26:16 PM
MORE COWBELL dammit!
Too bad Lex is overused by drewlicious	Apr 24th, 2008 06:26:51 PM
He is actually a pretty good villain when used correctly. Half of what makes him work is that nothing sticks to him and Superman's the only one who is completely aware of what a scumbag he is. They could still use that, the authorities didn't catch him trying to flood the world so he could still ride the reformed criminal angle. I wouldn't mind seeing Brainiac or Mongol thrown into the mix, or even Doomsday except the only way to deal with him is just make him a presence until the climax. Just no more emo-Supes and feed Lois a biscuit or something.
Singer would never ... by Herb West	Apr 24th, 2008 06:27:00 PM
have the balls to kill that kid off.
ThePilgrim by Herb West	Apr 24th, 2008 06:31:28 PM
Do you think that's true or is it just bullshit gossip?
The kid will be revealed to be by dihay	Apr 24th, 2008 06:31:39 PM
the son of Luthor. This came about after a drunken, slutty Lois had a chance encounter with a disguised Lex back in the day.
singer's problems by novembre13	Apr 24th, 2008 06:32:14 PM
maybe tom cruise tried to get the gay out of bryan singer with the magic of scientology, which is why he wanted to work with him , but it didn't work so that's why 'valkyrie' isn't going anywhere.
It actually may be true about Singer.. by Herb West	Apr 24th, 2008 06:36:53 PM
I've heard before that he kept just randomly locking himself in his trailer and missing full shoot days. I hadn't heard the pedophile angle, though.
Hey, Imagine That! A SUPERMAN Movie That DOESN'T Suck! by LaserPants	Apr 24th, 2008 06:37:38 PM
Since they've all sucked. Hard. Although Superman 2 had some fine moments surrounded by moments of epic failure and awfulness. It would be nice to see a director with balls make a good Superman movie. And it would be nice to see the Donner cannon jettisoned into the sun never to be seen or heard from again. (Although the theme music is good. That can stay.)
Pedophilia and Singer by Thunderbolt Ross	Apr 24th, 2008 06:38:01 PM
I highly, highly doubt that rumor ... Sounds like someone has a grudge
Wow.. by Herb West	Apr 24th, 2008 06:43:55 PM
a disturbing new way to look at Apt Pupil. Wow.
Supes Returns like HULK by Silverglade	Apr 24th, 2008 06:53:44 PM
Some might make a comparison that Superman Returns is like (Lee's) HULK. Not necessarily godawful, but certainly not a bullseye - even though yes there are many dedicated fans for both that champion them. (I liked HULK) But overall, just sayin', a comic-adaptation misstep in the most polite terms.
When did this turn into a Nambla discussion? by Pops Freshemeyer	Apr 24th, 2008 06:54:28 PM
Oh wait, I forgot, it's completely on topic, because Marlon Brando was in Superman. Nevermind.
Magic by Dazzler69	Apr 24th, 2008 06:59:36 PM
Supes needs a magic foe. He can be harmed by a magic guy. Doomsday would be a good villain with Brainic as the main villain. I don't read D/C crap too much but surely there is some storylines there that can be explored.
Brainiac Has Been Known To Turn Into A GIANT ROBOT by LaserPants	Apr 24th, 2008 07:07:36 PM
He would make a fine villain for Supes to fight in the first good Superman movie. Since all the rest of the Superman movies have sucked. SUCKED.
Superskinnyman Returns Again by Ricky Retardo	Apr 24th, 2008 07:19:49 PM
Another thrill packed episode in the amazing adventures of Superskinnyman! Starring Brandon Routh as The Man of In Need Of A Meal.
Superman vs. Shogun Warriors! by Pops Freshemeyer	Apr 24th, 2008 07:22:35 PM
Top that!
SUPES VS HULK VS GIANT ROBOTS VS CHIM CHIM!!! by LaserPants	Apr 24th, 2008 07:29:08 PM
The winner? CHIM CHIM!!!
Recast, Redux, FIX THIS MESS! by LaserPants	Apr 24th, 2008 07:35:50 PM
Fuck the Reeves fetish, fuck Supermetrosexualannorexicman, fuck Singer's raging coke problem (and alleged pedophilia). Get a good director on this, get Paul Dini, Geoff Johns, and/or any of the writers from the Justice League animation to write it, and recast Superman. I'm not sure who would be best suited, but he should, at the very least, be masculine. No more Superbottom please.
I WAS AT HAMILTON!!!!!! by dsadove	Apr 24th, 2008 07:36:26 PM
Hi- I'm a student at Hamilton College. I was at the talk and I can assure you that this was taken out of context. All Mr. Tull was saying was that Superman should be able to fight unique and worthy adversaries. He wants the new movie to have more fighting and more action, but he certainly made no suggestion that Superman would be an "angry god."
SPRITLE and CHIM CHIM vs CANDY by LaserPants	Apr 24th, 2008 07:37:25 PM
The winner? Sadly... candy. They just can't say no to candy! CANDY!!!
Viva El Gringo Singer... by ColloquiallyBorn	Apr 24th, 2008 07:37:45 PM
The only way Superman Returns 2 can actually make me go back in the theatre to watch it, is to get WB to fire Singer as soon as possible. He gives illegal downloading some good ammo to not go and watch movies on the big screens. I mean why pay 10 to 12$ for a movie that ruins a main character that has been beloved for so many years? Give me someone who learned about the character thru his assistant and some online research, I want to pay for a movie that was done by someone who knows the character, the essence of what it meant. Singer failed miserably on all accounts, and WB Execs seem to think they'll actually make a profit with this one? I mean did they not get they're lesson on the first movie.. They barely broke even for a movie that should have been the highest grossing film of the last decade... Will boycott this until it makes it in the "old movies" section of the video stores...
You can't top Superman vs. Shogun Warriors! by Pops Freshemeyer	Apr 24th, 2008 07:39:48 PM
It's unpossible. Really, it is.
.. ok ok .. I get this site now.. Superman VS. by ColloquiallyBorn	Apr 24th, 2008 07:44:15 PM

.. ok ok .. I get this site now.. Superman VS. by ColloquiallyBorn	Apr 24th, 2008 07:53:44 PM
PILLSBURY DOUGH BOY!! Now that would rock! Supes enters factory "Where's my croissant?" PDB "It's floating in that bulimic ex-girlfrien-worse-mother of the year you sissy! She threw it up after lunch! Battle ensues, Luthor tries to again steal land that is worth nothing even if still has the millions he ilegally stole the family who decided not to sue him. Then we see Jimmy "good goly" whooshing around Clark and A good man trying to raise a son which is not his while the dead beat mom runs around stories instead of picking up her son that she had from the night she spent with Superman yet should'nt remember since he erased her memory at the end of the 2nd movie.. Oh.. and Perry doesn't get a heart attack 'cause he's so mellow about everything.. He retires and collects butterflies.. There you go.. I'll call it a "homage" to Superman Returns instead of just saying "I stole all the ideas from the previous movie 'cause I can't write anything good..."...
Now that's just silly. by Pops Freshemeyer	Apr 24th, 2008 07:59:11 PM
Superman vs. Stay Puft Marshmallow Man would be much, much cooler.
I like when people film in Australia by The Brains	Apr 24th, 2008 08:03:53 PM
It's a great boost for the economy in many sectors. You know who else who had a monkey? Aladdin.
I want Braniac - NOW by doodler	Apr 24th, 2008 08:15:37 PM
And do it right.
Sorry Pops Freshemeyer but... by ColloquiallyBorn	Apr 24th, 2008 08:17:08 PM
... The Stay Puff Marshmallow Man could not happen. We all know he doesn't exist. But the Pillsbury Dough Boy on the other hand...
Is McFly gone? by kungfuhustler84	Apr 24th, 2008 08:19:10 PM
can the casual nerds that actually like this site come out to play again? sheesh, that guy was a crazy tool. He had like every other post going half the time I was scrolling, most of them just beating the same already dead jokes to death over and over. And why is this still about Superman? Dis people not see they are planning to make a Paradise Lost movie? Does anybody know what that is? It's about God's most beloved angel Lucifer rebelling against him and waging a holy wat with hundreds of angels clashing and fighting for the fate of the heavens. It's a story about ambition, betrayel, and failure. It's fascinating how the stories of Lucifer and Adam and Eve parallel. There is potential there for one of the greatest films ever made. IF they get it right. So does any of that sound more exciting than a new Superman movie to anybody? I mean, JEEZ PEOPLE!!
sequel to Dark Knight Strikes Again by doodler	Apr 24th, 2008 08:19:11 PM
Remember the Frank Miller novel The Dark Knight Strikes again - the sequel to Dark Knight Returns - that was essentially "Justice League Returns" with everyone's favorite heroes kicking ass... It ends with Superman agreeing with his daughter (via Wonder Woman) that the heroes (specifically Superman and his daughter) should rule the Earth, instead of just letting it ride and helping out. What would the world be like if Supes & JLA ran the show? Fuck elections - Supes & Bats staring down Kim Jong Il....
good grief thats a lotta talkbacks. by droidonthemoon	Apr 24th, 2008 08:21:17 PM
see, i'm hoping someone will make more jokes in legendary films about a superman/batman film like they did in I AM LEGEND (which isnt all that legendary) anyway, i'm thinking brainiac - the crystals from the fortress are still out there and say they and the krytonite and all the knowledge of the 28 known galaxies form into some sort of brainiac character. he'd be strong enough and it'd be a cool show. the cyclops could find out about lois' kid and even figure out that ck is supes and raise the kid "normal" like and have a love triangle like pearl harbor and then we could all run out of the theater throwing up and losing complete faith in supes forever. except that brainiac would be cool. as long as james marsters doesnt play him.
Kneel before Zod by picardsucks	Apr 24th, 2008 08:21:49 PM
ZOD!!!!!!!
Herb West by kungfuhustler84	Apr 24th, 2008 08:22:47 PM
there are online versions of it but you would be better off buying a paperback version of the text with lots of helpful foot notes. It's one of the more dense works in literature, with allusions to hundreds of other mythical tales and biblical stories, sort of like Dante's Inferno. It may be a difficult read at first, but with patience you will find one of the most exhilarating, thought provoking looks at power and envy ever written.
Is McFly gone? by Herb West	Apr 24th, 2008 08:24:29 PM
He's been gone a long time I think. Too bad, he was funny. And Paradise Lost, noone seems to want to talk about that one.
Paradise Lost with Matthew Fox! by droidonthemoon	Apr 24th, 2008 08:25:36 PM
a book too little read nowadays, i'm afraid. but kewl it would be, yes indeedy. ah Milton...
Wait... by Herb West	Apr 24th, 2008 08:26:50 PM
I thought Paradise Lost was really old.
Clash of The Titans by AllPowerfulWizardOfOz	Apr 24th, 2008 08:31:46 PM
This movie does not need a fucking remake. Really. The original is a classic and should be remastered in HD and get a proper blu-ray release.
Superman power inflation by Dreamfasting	Apr 24th, 2008 08:53:53 PM
The problem I find with Superman is that the story gets less compelling as the power level of the conflict increases. He gets knocked down by kyptonite, he gets knocked off his moral pedestal, then he commits some unthinkably powerful feat (appearing to strain, but his limit is always exactly matched with the obstacle). To me, Superman is always most compelling in the middle of the story: when he lives the ultimate introvert dream of being secretly unwaveringly pure and utterly invincible.
Are we still going? by Underoos Hero	Apr 24th, 2008 08:58:51 PM

Are we still going? by Underoos Hero	Apr 24th, 2008 08:58:52 PM

How'd that double post happen? by Underoos Hero	Apr 24th, 2008 08:59:24 PM

McFly was annoying by kungfuhustler84	Apr 24th, 2008 09:00:11 PM
I'm happy I was gone for his twenty or so twinkie jokes. Ugh. Yeah, Paradise Lost was written I think in the early 1800s, if not earlier, so it's pretty old. And I know nobody else really cares about it, but it caught my eye and I just wanted to check for any other literature enthusiasts. and as far as remakes go, Akira was perfectly fine in animated form, and Clash of the Titans was wonderful. We already have classics that don't need to be remade. Let's get some fresh stories in here already, ones that have never been put to film.
I wanna see Superman by kungfuhustler84	Apr 24th, 2008 09:02:48 PM
tripping on acid and freaking out whle the rest of the Justice League try to bring his freaky ass down. Show half of the movie from Superman's super sense trippin perspective, with Batman turning into a big scary bat, and wonder Woman getting more and more voluptuous until she appears to be all fat. Let's see one time where Superman is actually irresponsible.
Paradise Lost by droidonthemoon	Apr 24th, 2008 09:03:12 PM

I wanna see Superman.. by Underoos Hero	Apr 24th, 2008 09:03:45 PM
In a good movie.
WB better enjoy it... by Philvis	Apr 24th, 2008 09:08:15 PM
I can't wait for the Siegels to take back the Superman property from WB. Maybe then, they will let a more worthy studio make a Superman movie. If Singer makes another one, we may as well just kill of Superman.
HOOVER DAM BOYS! by droidonthemoon	Apr 24th, 2008 09:09:31 PM
These things post themselves automatically! Paradise Lost is really old. 1667 by John Milton - yeah, its basically about justifying the ways of God to men. which he says in the book and is even quoted on wikipedia (cause i couldnt remember the year... i wasnt exactly around for it, ya know?) but its one of the better books written. being old doesnt make a book useless. usually better - they've stood the test of time. anywho, yeah, the Superman II and Superman Returns were movies about him being irresponsible (and as DevilCat said up top, Singer trying to work out his own family problems on film - maybe he thinks everyone has those same probs, who knows) Lets see KINGDOM COME made into a movie. Thats your graphic novel Paradise Lost Epic right there. Except it wasn't Paradise Lost.
Leave CLASH well enough ALONE by quantize	Apr 24th, 2008 09:36:04 PM
the orig is just fine...we do NOT need a retelling THANKYOU
If anyone wants to see the new Dark Knight poster... by McFly in the Ointment	Apr 24th, 2008 09:39:53 PM
Go to SuperHeroHype.com. Or, wait til it shows up on this site in two days. McFly
Anyone doubting Singer's "young boy" bent... by Deadbeat Dads Are Super Man	Apr 24th, 2008 09:41:30 PM
Need to look into the Apt Pupil lawsuit. Filming nude underage boys in the shower? Really Bryan? Naughty-naughty. Oh, and anyone doubting Superman was a deadbeat dad in Superman Returns needs to put down the cheese and lay off the World of Warcraft. Your sense of reality is warped.
kungfuhustler84 by Deadbeat Dads Are Super Man	Apr 24th, 2008 09:43:42 PM
One time? Take a gander at Superman Returns, if you dare, and talk me to me again about "irresponsible".
Bryan Singer went too far! by Deadbeat Dads Are Super Man	Apr 24th, 2008 09:50:28 PM
Superman Returns is wrong, and bad. There should be a new, stronger word for Superman Returns like badwrong or badong. YES, Superman Returns is badong. From this moment, I will stand for the opposite of Superman Returns, gnodab.
Thank You by sonofbronson	Apr 24th, 2008 10:01:12 PM
My thanks good sir for making a Kung Pow reference.
Kung Pow HAS to be... by Deadbeat Dads Are Super Man	Apr 24th, 2008 10:07:41 PM
One of the most UNDER-RATED comedies of all time. The sheer absurdity and awesomeness was just too much for some people, I guess. The ending was a little weak, true. But everything before that? HI-LARIOUS.
Paradise Lost is one of the great epic poems by Bass Ackwards	Apr 24th, 2008 10:53:04 PM
It was Milton's "response" to great Greek epic poems, and for my money its one of the most readable and captivating.
BUT by Bass Ackwards	Apr 24th, 2008 11:00:00 PM
It'd be very curious as a movie, its kinda "talky." It sounds like theres a bit of an expectation of a big heaven vs hell battle, but that never happens. Paradise Lost happens after Satans fall, the battle is already fought, no big or loud action set pieces or anything.
This news does NOT matter by Rocklover79	Apr 24th, 2008 11:06:07 PM
No matter what they do, no matter what villain they bring in, no matter how much action they pump in, no matter what great actress they get to replace Bosworth's no-talent, no-ass self, these new Superman movies will all be crippled by the overbearing melodrama of the first film. You can have Doomsday running down the street for all I care, Supes is still a deadbeat daddy. Have Darkseid show up at the Daily Planet to raise hell. Who cares? Supes is still a damn stalker obsessed with his ex. And let's not forget that Lex is still on that island somewhere since Supes didn't even bother to, you know, go back and apprehend the guy who almost took out Metropolis, held Lois and bastard kid hostage, and shanked Supes. Call me crazy, but if a bald motherfucker shanked me, I'd remember to haul his ass to the clink. So much muddled, irritating crap cannot be erased, no matter how good the next movie may try to be.
Come on Lobo.... or Darkseid.... by br1947	Apr 24th, 2008 11:12:34 PM
Please? If it's Lex Luthor stealing his powers or creating and evil clone in a bid to grab land... meh.
as bad as the Kevin Smith script for Superman Lives by schlockthemonkey	Apr 24th, 2008 11:12:55 PM
it would have made a better movie than Superman Returns
Damn it, Knowles. Paradise Lost deserves a talkback! by deathbird	Apr 24th, 2008 11:25:32 PM
This movie has been swimming in my head since I was 14. It's my Lord of the Rings. If any bigshot's reading this, get Ralph Fiennes's agent on the phone, stat!
Zod gets revenge by killing Grandson of Jorell, makes supes mad. by KongMonkey	Apr 24th, 2008 11:26:55 PM
The two level half of the Fortress of Solitude in their climatic duel, Supes then proceeds to kill Zod as brutally as he can. Enter Braniac, Bizarro, Darkseid, whatever.
kingdom come by droidonthemoon	Apr 24th, 2008 11:34:44 PM
yeah, i think a movie about paradise lost wouldn't read so well (ahem). you can't put on film what that book draws to the imagination - nor should you. i'm right there with you about readable. recommended for any of you out there who's psp is broken. kipling and keats, dante, these guys aren't read like they should be. if you want cool movie material (since no one is even bothering to make anything "original") its there for the taking. remember Oh Brother Where Art Thou? Odyssey. loved it. so, like a hero adaptation of PL would be cool maybe. honestly though, i think they need to wait and redo a whole new supes in about 10 years like they did bats after burton had made his and joel ruined it.
"Your sense of reality is warped" by oisin5199	Apr 24th, 2008 11:35:41 PM
this coming from a guy who creates a talkback name just to point to a stupid and tired argument about Superman Returns. Okay, since you're hung up on the 'deadbeat dad' issue please explain exactly how Superman is a deadbeat dad? Did he not pay child support? Someone already pointed out that he didn't know he had a son. Do you have any idea what you're really saying? So should Superman have taken the kid away from the only father he's ever known and loved just to satisfy some selfish need? That would have been despicable and out of character for Superman. What actually happened is in character. What would you have had him do? The point is that Superman cannot have a normal life, a family - that's what makes it tragic. I swear as soon as Superman is mentioned, there's this bizarre knee jerk response happens where talkbackers uncontrollably blurt out 'deadbeat dad' or 'stalker' without even thinking. I know, I know, it will hurt your brains too much to do that. Try to fight through the pain.
Harry's mom taught him not to talkback by droidonthemoon	Apr 24th, 2008 11:40:24 PM

Somewhat OT but maybe somebody here has heard something... by FastEddie8139	Apr 25th, 2008 12:09:41 AM
Has there been any talk about doing a new Daredevil film, ideally a reboot? Such a great character; it just needs a non-hack director and a lead who can actually act the part.
Could 'angry GOD' possibly mean.... by samsquanch	Apr 25th, 2008 12:17:28 AM
angry ZOD...?
General Zod's Studio 54 disco jack-boot outfit... by BurnHollywood	Apr 25th, 2008 12:19:18 AM
Now THAT'S "Dark God", baby.
Daredevil Reboot by schlockthemonkey	Apr 25th, 2008 12:20:20 AM
I say give it to Greengrass and Matt Damon... shakycam would suit Daredevil well
Superman returns plot holes galore by Rufferto	Apr 25th, 2008 12:31:58 AM
Did the people who wrote that even know what is going on with that kid? How does Lois not know it's Superman's kid. Or does she? Did she tell her boyfriend that the kid is his? Uggh so stupid. The kid was a terrible idea. Another wasted opportunity. And if it was really a sequel of SM 2 then that doesn't make sense either. Went you can't explain it IGNORE IT. In that sense this movie's script did play out like a comic book. A real bad one.
Also they cast everyone too young by Rufferto	Apr 25th, 2008 12:42:38 AM
For a story that takes place 5 years later or whatever and yet the Lois actress must of been in her mid twenties and she was the worse Lois ever. Terri Hatcher kicks the shit out of her. She had no personality no quirks. She wasn't tough or Lois like besides being career minded enough to bang the bosses nephew (son?) that is. and I still think Spacey was a good choice and he's a great actor. I really think he was told to act like Hackman. Like someone else said you can't salvage this very well for a sequel because of the plot holes and character flaws SR posed.
And o yeah While I'm ragging on SR by Rufferto	Apr 25th, 2008 12:51:04 AM
The costume sucked too. Making the icon so small only drew attention to how skinny the actor is. Of regardless it doesn't help that his face lacks that square chin or any other mature feature. Routh might of been too young to even play Superboy.
Synger and Pedphilia? by Rufferto	Apr 25th, 2008 12:59:33 AM
Hahahaa. Well that brings a scary new perspective in the scene where Lois' kid kisses Superman for no particular reason.
Hackman Luthor by Rufferto	Apr 25th, 2008 01:08:55 AM
Just sucks in the original movies and it totally sucked in SR to write Spacey's Luthor like that and in effect put him to waste. Luthor in the original movies was not known by Metropolis citizens and didn't hide behind a facade of being benevolent philanthropist. So he had no reason to be jealous of Superman because he was a criminal in hiding from what I can remember. Hackman's Lex was a joke. A comedy relief and his sidekicks were there to make him look smart because they were even dumber. Really lame. And SR's Lex although a bit more menacing still kept all that totally ignoring much better takes on the character. And that's about all I want to say on the matter.
Timeline for Returns lovers by INWOsuxRED	Apr 25th, 2008 01:52:46 AM
1. Superman 1 2. Superman 2...the movie that ends with Superman saying he'll never leave again. 3. Superman Returns..the movie where Superman leaves for no real reason at all. Then comes back and stalks a lady and lifts some stuff. 4. Superman 3...actually this movie never happens, but still it wouldn't make sense for Superman Returns not to have happened. One movie never happening is fine though, just not two. 5. Superman IV...oh wait, no I meant it is perfectly reasonable for two entire movies to have never happened, but not three. Three would really be pushing it and totally unfair.
Superman Returns was a bad movie... by MonkeyManReturns	Apr 25th, 2008 02:26:52 AM
..in every way. Nothing worked. Singer took something that could have been great, and turned it to something shallow and wet and a great advert for not reaching one's potential. I can't believe that no-one in that Xanadu called Hollywood can write a decent Superman script. Really - it boggles me. And I don't boggle easy. I have some tips for scriptwriters to consider: 1. No kids. No sons. No daughters. No pet monkeys. Ok. Maybe one monkey. 2. Cast a real woman to play Lois. And if you do, remember, she is a crazy leach of a journalist who is constantly after the story and therefore - doesnt have time to paint her toe nails black!!!! Yeeeeuuuuuck!!!! 3. Infact after the debacle that was Returns - kill Lois and maybe Supes can go round the world and erase the entire thing from our memory! 4. Make Luthor - a real KICKARSE villian and not some pussy cartoon joke with no balls. 5. Have. Some. Fucking. Respect. For the source. I thank you.
Superman Returns > Chimp-The Movie by Motoko Kusanagi	Apr 25th, 2008 02:39:00 AM
aka Speedracer.
What a twat by Lost Jarv	Apr 25th, 2008 02:46:34 AM
not only are you a cretinous sub troll moron, but you can't read and can't think up anything original. I fucking hate SR, and think it is on a par with that other cinematic turd Spiderman 3. So calling for me every time is just sad. But not quite as sad as your cutting and pasting of the same review, which you must have done 4 or 5 hundred times, or sneering about Aintitoldnews etc. What's the matter? did Harry not post your review?
I hope he kills Richard and Lois out of frustation by DarthBakpao	Apr 25th, 2008 02:53:02 AM
After losing the custody to Jason, Superman get angry and snaps Richard's neck. He proceeds to bitchslap Lois, decapitating her head. Now that's a sequel i'd like to see
DickJones by DarthBakpao	Apr 25th, 2008 04:08:07 AM
I personally want a reboot because the introduction of Jason brought a narrative dead-end to the continuity. I don't want to see Superman and son story, and to simply write Jason off would be a cheap solution
Who's a twat? by kungfuhustler84	Apr 25th, 2008 04:21:06 AM
there bouts to be some dram up in this piece? Fun! I'll get Mcfly. I wanna watch...
Mcfly by Lost Jarv	Apr 25th, 2008 04:44:34 AM
sorry I thought that was obvious
fucking what? by applescruff	Apr 25th, 2008 04:46:38 AM
ok, i'm feeling the idea of a really awesome fight in a new superman movie. but it has to be at least half as good as the final battle in superman 2. and it can't involve bald kevin spacey dangling around a green icicle while fucking Kumar kicks the shit out of supes and films it for youtube.
that was funny: by Lost Jarv	Apr 25th, 2008 05:23:26 AM
"bald kevin spacey dangling around a green icicle while fucking Kumar kicks the shit out of supes and films it for youtube." nigh on perfect description of it. If he'd added "badly lit" in there somewhere
I Like Your Idea Queefer Bukkake! by LaserPants	Apr 25th, 2008 05:32:02 AM
Takashii Miike to direct! I'm so there!
But What About Monkeys, Tom, What About CHIM CHIM?! by LaserPants	Apr 25th, 2008 05:54:29 AM
CHIM CHIM GOTTA EAT!!! HE GOTTA EAT... CAAANNDYYYYYYY!!!!
Y'know who I feel sorry for...? by 69DUDE	Apr 25th, 2008 06:19:01 AM
Brandon Routh. Plucked from obscurity, only to have Singer (partly) screw it up for him. Out of the whole mess of Superman Returns, he was the only one who was dead on target. Damn.
I know I should care by toxicbuddha	Apr 25th, 2008 06:21:48 AM
Based on my being a huge movie and comic geek, but on the whole they have made more bad Super films than good, and at this point I just don't give a damn anymore. Like having that one relative that keeps going off rehab: eventually you just give up. We have all documented in huge detail all the many ways that the last movie sucked (the most unforgivable of which being they turned Supes into a trailer trash Baby Daddy). Considering how easy it is to come up with a GOOD Superman script (hell, just ask any Talkbalker), it's kind of amazing that they keep coming up with such asstastic ones. More Lex, anyone?
Oh great, so Superman will be pissy again? by Rickey Henderson	Apr 25th, 2008 07:30:47 AM
That's just fan-fucking-tastic. More brooding! And hey, while they're at it, why not just make another movie where all he does is lift shit then ends up in the hospital. That would be great too.
Some projects WB should solely finance - Superman is one by genro	Apr 25th, 2008 08:28:37 AM
Otherwise, you get a bunch of check writers who have zero background in arts/media/entertainment wanting to call the shots through "suggestions". If WB cannot self-finance Superman, why do they even exist?
Why not film "Death of Superman"? by Sithdan	Apr 25th, 2008 08:35:56 AM

Why not film "Death of Superman"? by Sithdan	Apr 25th, 2008 08:37:47 AM
It would have to be a CGI Doomsday, but why not make Superman Returns part 2 as the death of Superman and end it as Supes dies in Lois' arms. Then, conclude the trilogy with the "Reign of the Supermen" story arc from the comics.
Superman by Quantum Leap	Apr 25th, 2008 08:39:26 AM
I thought Superman Returns was OK, but it was definitely a step down from the earlier movies. I'm still curious as to how the next one will turn out, but let's hope this one will be better.
Death of Superman by Quantum Leap	Apr 25th, 2008 08:41:06 AM
I'd see it. I wonder if they would put Doomsday in it?
Has anyone seen my dad around? by Bastard Son of Superman	Apr 25th, 2008 08:46:28 AM

Fuck all of you by KristianUK	Apr 25th, 2008 08:49:05 AM
Well most of you. Its like all the Superman haters wait around so they can get their really really witty Superman lifts things, like shirts jokes out! Its pathetic. Go and talk about shit you like. As for the Smallville rules crowd - fuuuuuuuuuck off! Smallville is retarded. End of.
KristianUK by Bastard Son of Superman	Apr 25th, 2008 08:50:38 AM
Have you seen my dad anywhere?
LOL by Lost Jarv	Apr 25th, 2008 08:52:34 AM
bastard son of superman. Funny
:) by Bastard Son of Superman	Apr 25th, 2008 08:54:43 AM

What's really wrong with Superman Returns by xyvortex	Apr 25th, 2008 08:55:25 AM
It relies too much on the past... I like the idea of a reboot. I realize that Supes is the hero of an older generation but they need to find a hook with the kids of today. REBOOT
SUPERMAN RETURNS truly blew... by BadWaldo s Revenge	Apr 25th, 2008 09:00:15 AM
It has the gaping plot hole of the universe...that Lois Lane carried Supe's child unknowingly and is revealed as a surprised at the end. A BASTARD CHILD. Because Lois Lane is such a ditzy that she might not know which child is whose, she's a SLUT. Thanks a lot, Superman Returns screenwriters and director Bryan Singer, for FUCKING UP Superman legacy by turning him into a pansy who fathered a child out of wedlock. Superman Returns deserves to be a box office disappointment for being a SUPERLAME movie. Back to reading old Supe comic books with Neal Adams' magic pencil.
Re: pansy who fathered a child out of wedlock by GibsonUSA	Apr 25th, 2008 09:04:45 AM
Supes banged Lois in the earlier, pre-Singer movies. You think he was using a supercondom? A kid popping out was a possibility.
BadWaldo s Revenge by Bastard Son of Superman	Apr 25th, 2008 09:06:10 AM
FUCK YOU!! That's my mom you're talking about you fuck!!
GibsonUSA by Bastard Son of Superman	Apr 25th, 2008 09:06:46 AM
You too...Watch it!!
Bastard Son by Underoos Hero	Apr 25th, 2008 09:08:54 AM
hahaaha
BSOS by Underoos Hero	Apr 25th, 2008 09:10:31 AM
You should blame Singer for all of you woes. Oh and if you happen to talk to Singer, tell him I want my goddamn money back for that shit storm.
Sounds like a good idea by Araqnidm	Apr 25th, 2008 09:14:58 AM
As much as I like the intellectual, benevolent Superman on paper, it really doesn't make for a good summer blockbuster. Here's hoping they take this and bring in Bizzaro or Brainiac rather than just moving back to Zod and the banished insurrectionists. It's irritating that in 5 Superman movies we've only seen Luthor (or a sniveling, lesser version of Luthor), Zod (a second string Superman villain at best), and Richard Pryor.
The Singer Fanboy's.. by Deadbeat Dads Are Super Man	Apr 25th, 2008 09:22:35 AM
LOVE to spout off that Superman WASN'T a deadbeat because he DIDN'T TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR HIS SON. Make sense to any of YOU? Of course not, the majority of us don't have Super Ignore Lame Bullshit powers like they do....
Anyone seen my dad? by Bastard Son of Superman	Apr 25th, 2008 09:26:13 AM

If you see him - by Deadbeat Dads Are Super Man	Apr 25th, 2008 09:33:18 AM
Tell him he's a TRUE hero to deadbeat dads EVERYWHERE!
Rather watch Ang lee's Hulk 3X than SR again. by Stalkeye	Apr 25th, 2008 10:04:40 AM
That's just my opinion.
I'd rather watch SPiderman 3 than SR by Lost Jarv	Apr 25th, 2008 10:32:32 AM
I'd absolutely rather watch X3 than both of them. That's how shit they are,
The closest we've seen to a SUPER battle was... by baimun	Apr 25th, 2008 10:35:37 AM
How bad is it that the closest we've seen to what an all-out Superman battle SHOULD be is... ... from the final installment of the Matrix with Neo fighting Agent Smith. Shockwaves shattering buildings... buckling pavement... sonic booms in the air... moon craters upon impact. THAT is what Comic Fans want to see.
The commercial for Superhero Movie by INWOsuxRED	Apr 25th, 2008 11:03:54 AM
had more super stuff than SR. So did the commercial for Made of Honor.
Agreed baimun by Stalkeye	Apr 25th, 2008 11:23:58 AM
As much as i was disapointed in Matrix revolutions, that fight between Neo and Smith was far better than anything I have seen in SR.Fuck, the sequel as a whole, outweighs Stalker man.Maybe the wachowskis should helm the next Supes movie, atleast they are true comic geeks unlike that bone smuggling Singer.
The last GOOD Superman film? by Deadbeat Dads Are Super Man	Apr 25th, 2008 11:28:35 AM
The Iron Giant (1999)
Orcus by toadkillerdog	Apr 25th, 2008 11:35:29 AM
I like to call him: McMaggot in the shit
I was just thinking... by Deadbeat Dads Are Super Man	Apr 25th, 2008 11:43:27 AM
Isn't it obvious why Superman decided to lay his Super Bastard off on Lois' sucker? Did you see when the little shit had a trash can on his head, and was walking into walls? What the fuck was THAT? I know I'd be embarassed to claim a little idiot like that as sharing MY DNA as well. His first thought had to be: "Child Support evasion, here I come!".
Damn, I hate to be drawn in, but it is a boring day by toadkillerdog	Apr 25th, 2008 11:55:52 AM
Superman, could not possibly be the father of the child. Aside from the fact that it is unlikely that Human and Kryptonians could interbreed, lets for sake of argument say they could. Superman, is just that, Super. In all aspects. Even down to his sperm, which means that when he came, surely, Lois would go boom! His sperm would fly out of his body at supersonic speeds, and would then fly out of Lois as well! Could be super sperm even now flotaing around the planet. In fairness, I must say, I am not the first person who posited this theory about super sperm - but I can not remember the name of the dude who did.
Wait a minute! by Deadbeat Dads Are Super Man	Apr 25th, 2008 12:03:03 PM
So if he ISN'T the father, does that then mean he is just a creepy pedohpile instead?? Bryan, you sly dog you! Gives a whole new meaning to the sappy-crappy speech at the end, doesn't it? "You will be different. Sometimes, you will feel like an outcast, but you will never be alone." Not while NAMBLA is around, eh Bryan?
Or pedohpile^ by Deadbeat Dads Are Super Man	Apr 25th, 2008 12:03:33 PM

Or pedophile^ by Deadbeat Dads Are Super Man	Apr 25th, 2008 12:03:46 PM

My best guess for the origin of the boys power by toadkillerdog	Apr 25th, 2008 12:11:32 PM
Because of the close contact between Kal El and Lois over the years, the kryptonian radiation that Superman emits - which in normal contact would not affect most humans, but due to the extraordinary closeness with Lois, mutated her. This allowed her to absorb and pass along to her son, a portion of the Sol enhancing strength that kryptonians possses. The true father of the kid, is indeed our buddy James. And yes, that makes Supes a stalker.
Hole in your theory #1: by Deadbeat Dads Are Super Man	Apr 25th, 2008 12:14:43 PM
Shouldn't Ma & Pa Kent have had the SAME "mutation"?
Ma and Pa Kent by toadkillerdog	Apr 25th, 2008 12:25:10 PM
I considered that, and I came to the conclusion that one of two things occurred. 1) Their close proximity to the vessel that brought Kal El to earth allowed them to build up an immunity of sorts to the radiation he emitted - because it only increased gradually as he got older - which may account for why he chose to leave home and not return as often. 2) They were effected, but seeing as how they could never produce children on their own, the mutation never had a chance to be passed on.
Ma and Pa Kent by Deadbeat Dads Are Super Man	Apr 25th, 2008 12:34:00 PM
Shouldn't Ma Kent have been MADE "fertile" by the "mutation"? And why exactly would the "mutation" ONLY affect offspring, and not those who spent DECADES close to Kal-El? Please, you are giving Bryan Singer FAR too much credit.
Superman fucked Lois by Larry Sellers	Apr 25th, 2008 12:41:26 PM
and Lois had his child. Guys, it's hopeless. I don't like that ridiculous plotline but Jason's here to stay until Singer finds a good way to get rid of him. It was everything but explicitly stated in SR. To make him someone else's kid would ruin one of the more significant (in the context of that story) parts of the movie. Lex knows about Jason. He'll probably kill him, giving us the "angry God". There must be a legitimate reason for Superman being pissed and possibly reckless, if that is indeed where they plan to go next. I don't think not getting enough thank yous is sufficient.
Ma and Pa Kent kissing in the tree - and swapping teeth by toadkillerdog	Apr 25th, 2008 12:42:11 PM
No credit to the Sing man at all. As far as Ma becoming fertile, the radiation does not turn back the biological clock, it alters the DNA at Mitochondrial level - which in mammals, means it is only passed on from the maternal side.
This is just idle musing on my part - by toadkillerdog	Apr 25th, 2008 12:45:47 PM
I'm not trying to give Singer a way out. I seriously doubt he would take it anyway - and I truly hope he is not involved in anyway with the plot of the next movie.
SR did not work because by mrbong	Apr 25th, 2008 12:50:55 PM
1. it claimed to be a sequel, yet "discarded" sequels it did not like and conjured up some sort of plot about Supes heading off to find Krypton (don't remember that in I - IV?). 2. Kevin Spacey is a fantastic actor, but Gene Hackman was the definitive on-screen Luthor. Spacey could not compete, he knew it, he didn't even try. 3. The Kid - not irritating, but if Supes was in THAT kind of relationship with Lois, there is no way he would have buggered off to look at a dead rock, it would have been against all for which he stands. 4. inconsistency with kryptonite - sometimes a little bit can render him powerless, sometimes a chunk of it inserted in him does not stand in the way of him flying off in to space (or wherever) whilst holding, ladies and gentlemen, an entire continental plate. 5. Brandon thingie - helplessly trapped in to playing a "homage" to Chris Reeve. the kid never stood a chance, he looks uncomfortable throughout. if this was the best they could do, then it says that Superman is an exhausted subject for the current batch of film makers out there. at least the ones that can get their hands on $$$$ to make them. where is that chap who posted "as a future film maker it is my duty to...." a while back?
I don't want to sound too harsh by Samuel Fulmer	Apr 25th, 2008 01:09:08 PM
but other than the effects, Superman Returns was awful. I would actually put it on par with being Batman and Robin awful. Sure there were no latex suits, but Superman Returns made up for that with a poor, poor story, and actors that had zero chemistry with each other.
deadbeat dumbass by oisin5199	Apr 25th, 2008 01:16:01 PM
"DIDN'T TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR HIS SON" - shouting it doesn't make it true. Please explain exactly how Superman does not take responsibility for his son. Did you even watch the film? Do you have any idea what it means to be a parent? Do you know what it's like to raise a child that is not biologically yours? It is you who has no sense of reality. Supes absolutely did the best thing for the child's well-being - that is leaving him with the very excellent father who has raised him. He very rightly determines that Lois and her son is with an excellent husband and father and he decides not to interfere in their lives, even though this decision hurts him. It's not like he said, screw you kid, you're not my responsibility. I just don't see why so many people have a problem with this storyline. It emphasizes Supes' continual desire to be 'one of us' (i.e. settle down with a wife and family) while maintaining how impossible that is given his role as savior of humanity. This is not new. It's not like Singer pulled this out of his ass - it's a classic Superman theme, but Singer took a different approach to get there, by (gasp!) actually progressing the story and the characters. I guess people really want the same old boring and tired 'will they or won't they' dance between Supes and Lois, instead of actually seeing her get over him and moving on. People don't want to see the status quo of their precious little geek universe shaken up any.
How is Supes a deadbeat dad? by GibsonUSA	Apr 25th, 2008 01:17:27 PM
1. Even though the movies sometimes gave him "convenient" powers, mind reading was never one of them. If Lois stays quiet, Supes knows nothing. 2. Born out of wedlock...okay, I don't support it, but its American reality. What, 70% of some inner city kids? The fact that the dad was not aware of the kid's existence and just came back from space constitutes extraordinary dont you think? And the second he found out, he went immediately to see his kid. Sitting by your son bedside is not exactly stalking, especially when mom knows and doesnt object. Did you guys not have families or something?
There are parts of SR worth watching... by fat bears	Apr 25th, 2008 01:25:45 PM
But if you were to cut together those parts, and those parts only, you'd get a short like the old Fleischer cartoons. The title sequence with his trip back to Earth was pretty awesome, his reintroduction into Metropolitan life was decent, and his saving the day and Ms. Lane from the plane crash was great. So, really, all you have to do is cut out anything and everything to do with Lex Luthor and the kid whose superpowers are only triggered by proximity to Kryptonite. Once that's done you've got a great little short that can go on the shelf with Jap-oteurs and Superman vs. a Dinosaur.
Do any of you Singer Fanboys by Deadbeat Dads Are Super Man	Apr 25th, 2008 01:29:03 PM
Know what a deadbeat dad is? You are actually embarassing yourself even MORE than usual. Superman KNEW the kid was his, and offered ZERO financial or emotional support for his bastard. Instead, he chooses to let some other schmuck shoulder the burden. You dink's say "That was what was best for the little shit", but the RESPONSIBILITY is STILL SUPERMAN'S. I love that these same dink's think a shitty speech and bedroom sneaking is more important than Child Support. He acknowledges the kid is his, but then takes off knowing he doesn't have to do ANYTHING for him. Learn what a deadbeat dad is, losers. Your mom married one.
Deadbeat Dad is Right by fat bears	Apr 25th, 2008 01:32:46 PM
The right thing for Supes to do might've been to keep the kid ignorant, but that doesn't absolve him of the responsibility for the kid. Or for talking to the two people who are shouldering the financial and emotional burden of raising his kid. Whether Jason gets to know who his real dad is or not is something ALL THREE of the concerened parents should have talking about. Otherwise he's being a dead beat and running out on his responsibility.
An Angry God?! by Cadillac Jones	Apr 25th, 2008 01:34:36 PM
I thought he was hinting at a possible Star Trek V crossover! What?! That's the scene and track listing on the cd!
If Lois stays quiet, he "knows nothing"? by Deadbeat Dads Are Super Man	Apr 25th, 2008 01:36:29 PM
I guess his x-ray vision is ONLY for peeping on Lois then? I mean, that's the ONLY thing he used it on in that entire abortion. Here comes the Fanboy insistence of "How would he even THINK the kid was his??". But here's an even better question: Why would the asshole be inquisitive enough to DITCH Planet Earth to cruise the remains of Krypton on a whim, but NOT inquisitive enough to wonder about Lois having a kid the SAME AGE as the time he has been gone? All the while knowing he boned her paper-flat ass? Double-talk and straw-man arguments to follow....
Re: Do any of you Singer Fanboys by GibsonUSA	Apr 25th, 2008 01:39:38 PM
Uh...the movie ended with Superman just being aware of his kid. After the whole Lex thing, when he visits the kid's room, that was pretty much after he first discovered the truth. Then he talked to Lois and said "I'll always be around" and flew off. Then the movie ended. Where does it indicate Supes ran off and will not shoulder any responsibility? You're writing your own post-movie timeline conclusions to bash the movie.
fat bears by Deadbeat Dads Are Super Man	Apr 25th, 2008 01:41:03 PM
Why do you think his badly-rendered CGI double had that shit eating grin on it's face during that final flight? He ditched that 5 year old money pit "faster than a speeding bullet"!
What? You want him writing a check while fighting Lex? by GibsonUSA	Apr 25th, 2008 01:44:37 PM
"Hold on Lexy, I have to write this check to Lois for the kid I found out I had an hour ago, just so these geeks know I am shouldering Financial Responsibility!!" Psssh whatever.
Where does it indicate by Deadbeat Dads Are Super Man	Apr 25th, 2008 01:45:22 PM
That he WILL? So you Singer Fanboys can make assumptions about ol' deadbeat Superman "positively", but we can't see things "realistically"? Did he hand Lois a check along with his "I'm always around" LIE or something? Must have missed that when I was vomitting....
Straw-man argument? Check! by Deadbeat Dads Are Super Man	Apr 25th, 2008 01:46:57 PM
Good job, GibsonUSA! I knew you Singer Fanboy idiots wouldn't let me down.
Your flawed argument. by GibsonUSA	Apr 25th, 2008 01:48:38 PM
"He acknowledges the kid is his, but then takes off knowing he doesn't have to do ANYTHING for him." That is your epic fail. You have zero evidence of this. The movie ends before you can.
Your flawed intelligence by Deadbeat Dads Are Super Man	Apr 25th, 2008 01:50:35 PM
Is what causes you to fail at life. Zero evidence? The FACT that he did NOTHING to show he is taking responsibility for his bastard is ALL the proof I need. What proof do YOU have to the contrary, genius?
Flawed argument #2. by GibsonUSA	Apr 25th, 2008 01:50:45 PM
"I knew you Singer Fanboy idiots wouldn't let me down." Do you have evidence of this either? Truth is I dont really know much about Singer and thought X1 was just okay. You seem to be just creating your own truths are rolling with them.
The indication of him running off... by fat bears	Apr 25th, 2008 01:51:10 PM
That came when all he had to say was "I'm always around" and flying off instead of saying anything honest about who he really is and what he may or may not know, etc. etc. The best way to take care of this is, of course, to kill a kid in a Superman movie.
Does the movie need to tell you everything? by GibsonUSA	Apr 25th, 2008 01:53:44 PM
"The FACT that he did NOTHING to show he is taking responsibility for his bastard is ALL the proof I need. What proof do YOU have to the contrary, genius?" Does there need to be a scene during the credits where Supes is sitting down writing a check and taking the kid to the ballpark? Supes ends the movie by showing tremendous affection for the son he JUST realized he has, tells the mom he'll "always be around", then flies off in traditional Superman style. Whats your problem with it? Guilty til proven innocent? Superman isnt supporting until you see a scene of him post-movie doing so?
I predicted a straw-man argument from you. by Deadbeat Dads Are Super Man	Apr 25th, 2008 01:55:26 PM
And you delivered. So you changed my intuition into truth, Fanboy.
Does common sense "elude" you? by Deadbeat Dads Are Super Man	Apr 25th, 2008 01:58:34 PM
He left the kid in another man's house. In a bed paid for by another man. To wake-up and eat food and wear clothes paid for by another man. The fact that you continue to "defend" this point, without acknowledging the OBVIOUS is REALLY sad.
You know....they could just kill the kid... by Darth Macchio	Apr 25th, 2008 02:00:57 PM
I detest farts. But treasure my own. Try keeping them in those vaccuum mason jars....vintage. Deliciouso-rama-soso!!!
To be fair GibsonUSA... by fat bears	Apr 25th, 2008 02:02:03 PM
Singer's Superman does a fair number of things no one ever expected him to do: he abandons Earth suddenly and for five years, he uses his super-senses to spy on Lois (regardless of his intention he was def. focusing this attention on her private affairs without her invitation, thus spying on her), fathering a child at all (to say nothing of lifting a subcontinent's worth of Kryptonite, bedrock or not). And like I said, the last conversation we the audience are privy to is him telling Lois "I'll always be around", and immediately taking off without saying anuthing about the boy. Add to that the fact that he's already said he'd be around... and then he took off for five years. I'd be more inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt if the preceding two hours hadn't been spent tossing out so many things I thought I knew about Superman. Singer's Superman is teh stoopid.
Deadbeat Dad: I've the same problem with ROTJ by deathbird	Apr 25th, 2008 02:03:33 PM
I don’t give a flying fig about the redemption of Darth Vader. Why should I? He’s a mass-murderer and torturer; let him rot in Hell. Shit, if I were Luke, I’d of bathed in the bastard’s blood.
Teh stoopid indeed. by Deadbeat Dads Are Super Man	Apr 25th, 2008 02:05:05 PM
Why would he wear a raspberry-flavored Fruit Roll-Up on his back anyway? In case he got hungry mid-flight? Case of the munchies when he's letting regular humans beat hell out of him?
Hey, Darth Vader is a deadbeat dad too! by Deadbeat Dads Are Super Man	Apr 25th, 2008 02:10:17 PM
Notice his squeal of delight when he found out he skipped-out on a daughter TOO?? "Twin sssisster. I avoided child support with your twin sssisster. OCSE's failure is now complete!" Where's the Lucas Fanboy that's going to "defend" Vader's deadbeatedness??
oisin5199 & others by mrbong	Apr 25th, 2008 02:35:41 PM
if i recall, he does not clock that the kid is his until the end, yeah? that kind of negates your argument. yes, i do know what it is to be a parent - it is wonderful to say the least, and i would not piss off to leave him behind for the sake of a dead planet. then again, this is just a comic book movie we are discussing, so let's try to remain calm :)
mrbong by Deadbeat Dads Are Super Man	Apr 25th, 2008 02:48:42 PM
Take a look at how many guys are labelled "deadbeat dads" by the State they reside in, who NEVER knew they had a kid in the first place. Did that stop the State from wage garnishment? Pulling their driver's license? Possible criminal charges? Nope. So once again, the Superman in Superman Returns CAN be classified a deadbeat dad!
Deadbeat Dads Are Super Man by mrbong	Apr 25th, 2008 03:10:46 PM
not being in the States, i have no idea but am happy to take your word for it. i think all this conversation line does is underline the fact that SR was so incredibly bad that one can have a debate or two or twenty two around the many, many underlying reasons as to why it is so shit.
Oh, Vader was worse than deadbeat by deathbird	Apr 25th, 2008 03:13:26 PM
Strangling your (pregnant) wife, torturing your daughter, and severing your son's hand transcends the deadbeat parameters. That twisted fuck needed to die. Painfully.
What do you think would happen if Superman lit one of his own fa by strosmer	Apr 25th, 2008 03:29:45 PM
Anyone care to debate? Hmm, anyone?
fuck, "farts" got cut off, ruined whole joke by strosmer	Apr 25th, 2008 03:30:35 PM

mrbong by Deadbeat Dads Are Super Man	Apr 25th, 2008 03:39:56 PM
According to some people on here, the ONLY problem they are willing to admit to with Superman Returns was the "lack of action". That's it and that's all. See, you and I can walk by a big, stinky pile of dogshit and say: "Damn, someone needs to pick up that fucking dogshit. Ten people already stepped in that mess. It reeks too!". And along comes someone, let's call him "Gibson", who will say: "That is NOT dogshit. That is vital, nourishing fertilizer. You are just not smart enough to appreciate the fact it is helping the grass underneath grow long and strong. The aromatic emanation is also attracting insects to help strengthen the eco-system. If that fertilizer came with a can of Febreeze, you'd have NOTHING to complain about!". Pretty ri-god-damn-diculous, don't you think?
I'm sensing a "pattern" with Supes and Darth... by Deadbeat Dads Are Super Man	Apr 25th, 2008 03:42:14 PM
With Great Power Comes Great Ability To Duck Child Support.
Hahahaaa by Rufferto	Apr 25th, 2008 04:03:20 PM
This is some funny stuff right here. Especially the Vader and Twin Sister stuff. Don't forget he also killed kids deathbird. HA.
What Vader should have done while choking Portme is... by Deadbeat Dads Are Super Man	Apr 25th, 2008 04:08:36 PM
Used the Force to steal his kids piggy-bank! Not only does he avoid financial responsibility, he comes out AHEAD!
I think I have an idea to duck the kid prob by Rufferto	Apr 25th, 2008 04:09:19 PM
Maybe someone artificially impregnated Lois. Maybe the kid was an experiment done by Lex or Cadmus or someone unbeknown to Lois or Superman. Maybe he's Bizzaro and will grow real fast into him and AND then he can DIE! Remember most Bizzaro origin are that he is a clone or genetic experiment and the kid is really weird. Also did Kryptonite not have any effect on him? Just like it doesn't effect old Bizzaro. I think I may have invented a way out. Still a lot of other probs though.
Right as rain, Rufferto by deathbird	Apr 25th, 2008 04:24:13 PM
And who knows how many kiddie-winkies Vader killed in that twenty year interim? Oodles, I'd venture. And what exactly did he do to Leia in that cell? The worst, I'd bet. So am I expected to get all choked up when that sadistic asshole gets his angel wings? No dice, Lucas. That bunk might play well with the Catholics, but not me.
Deadbeat Dads Are Super Man by mrbong	Apr 25th, 2008 04:26:56 PM
there is truth in your words.
mrbong by Deadbeat Dads Are Super Man	Apr 25th, 2008 04:38:34 PM
Indeed sir!
It gets worse, Deadbeat Dad by deathbird	Apr 25th, 2008 04:40:03 PM
Like most spouses, Vader probably had access to his wife's bank account. Now where do you think he got the cash for that that "substantial reward" handed to Boba Fett? Naboo National Bank, that's where. So essentially, he robbed his dead wife with the aim of hunting down and corrupting his children. Christ, Vader's an asshole.
If we don't tell the kid, he'll never know? by INWOsuxRED	Apr 25th, 2008 04:42:53 PM
The idea that it is best for him to just think Scott Summers is his dad is a bit retarded considering he is already throwing pianos around in the movie. When he starts flying and shooting fire out of his eyes, isn't he going to start wondering which side of the family that came from, assuming he doesn't at some point accidentally kill his fake dad? If Superman figures what is best for a kid that only he could possibly relate to is to leave him with a fake dad and hope he doesn't ever gain the ability to add 1 + 1, then he is even worse than a normal deadbeat dad. At least a human bastard might not figure out the truth eventually. Superman didn't put that kid in a better situation, he just created a time-bomb.
deathbird by Deadbeat Dads Are Super Man	Apr 25th, 2008 04:44:45 PM
Ah, but you forgot something else he found access to at the NNB. Two words: College. Fund. You don't think "Uncle Owen" kept Luke from going to the Academy just for the fuck of it, do you??
Well... by Deadbeat Dads Are Super Man	Apr 25th, 2008 04:50:13 PM
Maybe the kid's ONLY super-powers is the ability to toss piano's around? If they keep him from growing up to be a concert pianist or piano mover, maybe the charade will work? What do you mean no??
Just read through this entire talkback. by boyblue	Apr 25th, 2008 04:50:45 PM
And it's nice to see so many fucking idiots still frequant AICN. I mean dont get me wrong I love the site, there are many real film fans who post here and every one deserves a voice, but this dead beat dad and Supermans is gay shit is seriously doing my fucking head in! Superman Returns was a good film, 110 times better than Smallville, and I will still see this as a film that needs a sequal, I have faith in Singer. And whats with everyone getting a bug up there asses because he is doing a Tom Cruise film? Valkyrie sounds cool and has a cracking cast and crew and I will be there on opening day like I was for Superman Returns, Not because im a Singer Fanboy but because I enjoy Intelligent well made Cinema.
Just read thru this moron's entire post... by Deadbeat Dads Are Super Man	Apr 25th, 2008 04:55:32 PM
Nice to see the asshole both DENY then AFFIRM his Singer Fanboyism. The gimp read thru all of our posts, but I GUARANTEE in his pea-brain NONE OF IT set in. Speaking of Valkyrie, let's wager on how much that film LOSES at the Box Office. A bloated budget in excess of $100 million and I say it makes $45 million domestic. Any takers?
You em Bizzaro's Daddy? by Rufferto	Apr 25th, 2008 05:28:07 PM
Dammit. I would pay 7 bucks to hear that in the theater !
But Superman is pretty gay...on Smallville. by Pops Freshemeyer	Apr 25th, 2008 06:16:09 PM
Caught like one entire episode and it was pretty lame. Made me long for the days of 90210. How much kryptonite was scattered around Smallville? Hell, they could go all Kryoptonite Express in smallville and have the train filled before it gathers the rocks up in the rest of the US.
Wasn't this the plot for Supes Return? by Violator90	Apr 25th, 2008 07:42:08 PM
Did they say that in Supes Return, Supes is gone and then returns to a world that has learned to leave without him and that Supes goes thru some "spiritual" or "personal" journey-or some thing to that affect. And all we got was a fucking lame rehash of the og SUPERMAN movie! Fuck Singer, get a new director. Some one pointed out Takashi Miike, that would be really interesting. Get some one that KNOWS the source material and will actually RESPECT IT! Get actors that fit the charactors!!! Don't get a cast that will be on the next CW show. Spacey is the man, no doubt. . . BUT! as Luthor I think he was wasted like a $2 whore in Hollywood. SR was a disgreace for a Supes movie and made me want to vomit. Hell, have Uwe Boll direct the next movie, at least with him we KNOW what we're gonna get.
PARADISE LOST?!? by elvenblade	Apr 25th, 2008 08:01:29 PM
Seriously. It would probably be disappointing, but man. Regarding Superman, if Singer's making another one, it had better have fucking DOOMSDAY in it.
Here's the worst part, Deadbeat Dad by deathbird	Apr 25th, 2008 09:33:56 PM
Ain't it like a deadbeat dad to wait until he's on his fucking deathbed till he reaches out to his tormented son? And notice that Vader NEVER apologies for his transgressions. Shit, his last words are: "Tell your sister...you were right." Awfully presumptious for a war criminal, no? Shouldn't it be, "Tell your sister I'm sorry for torturing her." Or "Tell your sister I'm sorry for killing her mother." Or "Tell your sister I'm sorry for entombing her boyfriend." Or "Tell your sister I'm sorry for holding her down while Peter Cushing wasted her homeplanet." Or maybe, "Tell your sister to forget about her loser father and move on with her life. I understand if she routinely spits on my grave." Christ, even at death, Vader's a self-absorbed sod, worrying about his reputation. I can't believe Lucas redeemed that asshole!
"Superman Returns" was gay... by BurnHollywood	Apr 25th, 2008 10:50:56 PM
Good.
No. This is the homophobic-idiotic- by Le Vicious Fishus	Apr 26th, 2008 12:17:41 AM
-fanboy-antifanboy-deadbeatdad -SupermanReturns-whineylittles hits-rant thread. Welcome.
toadkillerdog by ChrisVenom	Apr 26th, 2008 04:15:21 AM
I think it was Kevin Smith who had said that about Supermans sperm. He said something like Lois could never handle his load , it would break her back. I dont remember when he said that, but I think it was when he was being considered t make a new Superman movie in the 90's. Its as if Brian Singer was mocking Kevin Smith with SR.
this proves deadbeat dumbass is a dumbass by oisin5199	Apr 26th, 2008 10:48:54 AM
He several times used the term 'straw man argument,' but he doesn't even know what that means. Here's the definition: A straw man argument is an informal fallacy based on misrepresentation of an opponent's position.[1] To "set up a straw man" or "set up a straw man argument" is to describe a position that superficially resembles an opponent's actual view but is easier to refute, then attribute that position to the opponent (for example, deliberately overstating the opponent's position). This in no way applies to Gibson's argument (btw, thanks Gibson, for being a rare voice of sanity). Deadbeat Dumbass instead used the term simply as a synonym for 'weak argument.' Which is completely incorrect. Dumbass. I'm tired of arguing with dumbasses about this subject every single time there's a Superman talkback. So many of you have missed the entire point of this film over and over again, and keep focusing on petty shit that merely reflects your own psychotic issues. Unlike some people, I have better things to do with my time than hitting my head against a wall of stupidity. Superman Returns was a fantastic addition to the Superman mythos and I can't wait for the next one. Suck it.
YOU CAN KILL A KID IN SUPERMAN ULTIMAREX by Satanist	Apr 26th, 2008 10:59:52 AM
Im sorry but what is all the fuss about kill a kid in Superman movies Ultimarex?! I mean it will make the whole thing appear more realistic...plus it will be interesting.
YOU CANNOT KILL A KID IN A SUPERMAN MOVIE!... by UltimaRex	Apr 26th, 2008 12:22:38 PM
...The secret origin. In 1993, the Superman villain Toyman killed a boy called Adam Grant. The letters page exploded with criticism. Many long time fans said they would never read Superman again. If Jason dies WB won't have to worry about box office it'll be a boycott. No money. And unlike the supposed "stains" on the character you lot are bleating about now this one would be very real, cannot be fixed and people will remember and stay away. Remember Adam Grant.
YOU CANNOT KILL A KID IN A SUPERMAN MOVIE! by UltimaRex	Apr 26th, 2008 12:26:22 PM
Oh yeah, sorry for the delay. My life got in the way.
Re: Kevin Smith and Superman's sperm... by Pops Freshemeyer	Apr 26th, 2008 02:51:33 PM
Sure Kevin said it, but he wasn't the first to think of it. Pretty sure the super comic geek had read Man of Steel, Woman of Kleenex. Larry Niven wrote it back in the early 70's. http://tinyurl.com/2x4as
oisin the shithead makes me TWO for TWO! by Deadbeat Dads Are Super Man	Apr 26th, 2008 02:58:32 PM
Here's what I said, and he made himself the PRIME example: According to some people on here, the ONLY problem they are willing to admit to with Superman Returns was the "lack of action". That's it and that's all. See, you and I can walk by a big, stinky pile of dogshit and say: "Damn, someone needs to pick up that fucking dogshit. Ten people already stepped in that mess. It reeks too!". And along comes someone, let's call him "Gibson", who will say: "That is NOT dogshit. That is vital, nourishing fertilizer. You are just not smart enough to appreciate the fact it is helping the grass underneath grow long and strong. The aromatic emanation is also attracting insects to help strengthen the eco-system. If that fertilizer came with a can of Febreeze, you'd have NOTHING to complain about!". Pretty ri-god-damn-diculous, don't you think?
Oh, and don't he sound like a whiney BITCH? by Deadbeat Dads Are Super Man	Apr 26th, 2008 03:00:59 PM
"I'm tired of arguing with dumbasses about this subject every single time there's a Superman talkback." You are all really bad people and I hate you! You are mean and you don't let me have my way! I'm TELLING!!
YOU CANNOT KILL A KID IN A SUPERMAN MOVIE! by UltimaRex	Apr 26th, 2008 03:04:37 PM
What?
YOU CAN KILL A KID IN A SUPERMAN MOVIE! by Satanist	Apr 27th, 2008 06:01:16 AM
Look Ultimareeks - sometimes people have to take risks. And when I talk about killing a kid in a superman movie, I am not referring to Jason as true, it will be a big mistake. Oh and the long time fans said that they will never read Superman again so Superman will not lose hardly any more customers.
YOU CAN KILL A KID IN A SUPERMAN MOVIE! by Satanist	Apr 27th, 2008 06:01:40 AM
Oh yeah, sorry for the delay. My life got in the way.
As for the "deadbeat dad" thing... by UltimaRex	Apr 27th, 2008 06:30:32 AM
"You will see my life through your eyes, as your life will be seen through mine." Got it yet? It only took you 2 YEARS! Plus, has everyone forgotten what Superman DOES? Here's a problem, Superman files in, solves it and then files off. That's what he does. THAT'S ALL HE DOES. Sure, he could ask the UN for a paycheck but then he'd need a bank account. That's right morons. SINCE WHEN DOES SUPERMAN USE CASH? FUCK IT!!! INT. UN building lobby. --Day. Superman walks in. Secretary drops coffee. SUPERMAN: Hi. SECRETARY: I love you. SUPERMAN: ...um... I have an account number for HR... SECRETARY: Ok.. (takes paper) Who's Lois Lane? SUPERMAN: A friend... Superman goes to leave. SECRETARY: I want your babies! SUPERMAN: No, you don't.
Satanist.. by UltimaRex	Apr 27th, 2008 06:59:34 AM
Killing Adam Grant was a serious misstep for the comics and those long time fans are cut from the same moral cloth as the general audience. Plus I was a day late in posting. What's your excuse?
Sorry to join the talkback late by TruPhan	Apr 27th, 2008 10:41:25 AM
I'm just trying to catch up. Deadbeat Dads Are Super Man, why are you side-stepping around your feelings about Singer's Superman? I wish you would just come out and say how you feel about it.
Superman death and return of???? by mummydaddy	Apr 27th, 2008 01:26:25 PM
Whoever said that Routh's turn as CK/Supes was poor need a smack around the head as he is clearly the best since Christopher Reeves whom to be honest I thought was irreplaceable. Replacing him would be a bad idea if not just for continuation (Something I always appreciate), but with a decent script I am sure he would shine much more, however sack the script writer (if its the same one from Superman Returns), get rid of the kid (not safe to have him after the seigel/DC case as well as being a rubbish or underused idea). Louis Lane was also unconvincing unlike Margot Kidder's version. Finally, we DO need a decent rival for our almost invulnerable hero much like II's trio from Krypton (unarguably the series best edition). The Death and Return of Superman would be a great 2 movie storyline, (And would hopefully be better than the short animated version).
Don't worry about coming in late by Rufferto	Apr 27th, 2008 01:31:25 PM
to the party. This site hasn't had any new news for like 3 days now so it's still around. ;) I think it's been confirmed that the writers of Transformers are going to write the sequel. Come that time I imagine Superman Returns will look a hella lot better in comparison.
How can the suckiest part of Transformers improve SR? by Live.	Apr 27th, 2008 03:06:15 PM
The Transformers' script was turd-tastic. It was the direction that made it work. Unless Michael Bay is coming on, the SR sequel is guaranteed to be more awful that SR, and I didn't believe that was humanly possible.
Don't let anything Smallville related near this film by Juemad	Apr 27th, 2008 03:20:52 PM
That show is a joke. Everyone is the DC Universe somehow ends up in Smallville. Not to mention Lois and Perry seeing Clark without his glasses. Can't have their hunk wear glasses! "But how is he supposed to have a disguise when he finally leaves Smallville and becomes Superman? Won't people recognize Superman is that kid from Smallville?" "Never mind that." Just have Bizarro in the movie and Superman will have a threat upon which he can unlease his full strength.
And just ignore the kid ever happened in SR by Juemad	Apr 27th, 2008 03:23:15 PM
Just right him out of the story, like Chuck on Happy Days!
mojorising74 by Juemad	Apr 27th, 2008 03:34:08 PM
You are so right. Zod and his gang did kill that kid on horseback with the cop car's siren. I forgot all about that. You can kill a kid in a Superman movie. They already have.
So no money = no responsibility? by Deadbeat Dads Are Super Man	Apr 27th, 2008 05:00:25 PM
UltimaRex, I foresee an deadbeat dad in YOU some day. If you can find a girl that will sleep with you, that is....
Oh, and NOTHING has been "confirmed"... by Deadbeat Dads Are Super Man	Apr 27th, 2008 05:02:57 PM
For a sequel. In fact, this very site de-bunked that rumor. Nothing has been greenlit, and don't be surprised if it NEVER does. And Brandon Routh SUCKED as Superman. His non-existent movie career since that turd came out has proven it.
Hey deathbird... by Deadbeat Dads Are Super Man	Apr 27th, 2008 05:09:00 PM
I didn't catch your last comment about our OTHER super-powered deadbeat dad. In Empire, when Vader chopped off Luke's hand, he must have been GIGGLING inside. Not only did he NOT have to pay child support, but he just caused his medical expenses to rise! He really wanted Luke to join him for other reasons though: "Together, we can end this destructive conflict by saturating the universe with illegitimate children as father and son!"
Uuh I never said I was sure by Rufferto	Apr 27th, 2008 06:29:33 PM
just that I've heard the news on another site. This is the first SR news I've seen on this site in ages.
Zod Zod Zod by picardsucks	Apr 27th, 2008 07:45:00 PM
Terance Stamp Zod on fucking rampage with modern CGI swinging not flagpoles (like in Supes 2) at one another but fucking buildings!!! Supes realizes his new costume is lame and chucks it for his old duds or better yet Alex Ross Kingdom Come duds. People die in the carnage Lois, Jimmy, ect. Supes goes apeshit and rips Zod's limbs from his body all captured on tv. The world sees their hero acting like a savage god and though he saves the world everyone is scarred shitless of the Man of Steel. Major cities lay ruined smoking crators. Millions dead. Movie ends with the major powers deciding Supes is too dangerous and order their nukes launched at his fortress where he sits trembling on the verge of a nervous breakdown because of the loss and destruction. Even Jor-El won't speak to him as he screams out for his father. Fade to sequal as you see nukes zooming to the fortress and a fadeaway to deep space where you see Darkseid's massive fleet and Darksaid orders the invasion to commence. Directed by Peter Jackson !!!!
Vigilante by FCR	Apr 27th, 2008 09:18:42 PM
Why doesn't someone take on the Vigilante/Adrian Chase character? Could provide a foil for the Harvey Dent storyline and add another profitable layer to the Batman series . . .
And where is that Boba Fett TV series? by FCR	Apr 27th, 2008 09:22:15 PM
Do I have to think of everything?
Deadbeat Dads Are Super Man... by UltimaRex	Apr 27th, 2008 11:16:20 PM
"You will see my life through your eyes, as your life will be seen through mine." Does that sound like a "deadbeat dad"? AT ALL? Right. Next.
DDADM by Lost Jarv	Apr 28th, 2008 04:49:46 AM
are you the re-animated ID of Kal El Vis?
Parse that sentence by Live.	Apr 28th, 2008 07:47:31 AM
UltimaRex you keep using that line like a holy grail, but you don't even know what it means. "Jason will see Superman's life through Jason's eyes. Jason's life will be seen through Superman's eyes." You will see your mailman's life through your eyes and your mailman will see your life through his eyes. How else would you be seeing your mailman's life? Everybody sees everybody else's life that way. The only to not view someone else's life that way, would be through things like diaries. In that case, you would see your mailman's life through your mailman's eyes. That would offer a different perspective. But as the quote is laid out, it's awfully meaningless. Grass is green. Sky is blue. People see each other using their own eyes and outside perspectives. To give that line any resonance, it would have to convey the inverse idea of that statement. I sincerely hope you are paraphrasing it and got the pronouns mixed up. Otherwise it's yet another reminder of how weak the script was. It was bad enough to stick Supes with a bastard kid, there was no reason to stuff his mouth with moronic lines as well.
Live... by UltimaRex	Apr 28th, 2008 01:35:41 PM
You've not watched Superman the movie?
UltimaRex by Deadbeat Dads Are Super Man	Apr 28th, 2008 04:09:30 PM
You sir, are an idiot. Superman is a deadbeat dad, facts are facts. Deal with it, and go back to repeating yourself like a retarded mongoloid.
Oh, and just so UltimaRex feels even MORE like an idiot.. by Deadbeat Dads Are Super Man	Apr 28th, 2008 04:13:15 PM
Clark Kent draws a paycheck from the Daily Planet, does he not? I do believe you CAN pay your child support with a money order? SO, once again I have PROVEN Superman to be a deadbeat dad. NEXT.
DDASM... by UltimaRex	Apr 29th, 2008 02:01:29 AM
Why shouldn't I repeat myself? You do just fine. And about Clark Kent, We are going to have to wait until the next movie before Lois finds out and Clark starts helping. I believe you were demanding child support NOW?
And just so I know you understand... by UltimaRex	Apr 29th, 2008 02:23:20 AM
Clark can't get involved until Lois knows. That will be kept for The Man Of Steel. That being said, Superman doesn't use cash and can't use the system but can pay "child support"... using diamonds. One little bag passed to Lois can sort the whole thing out...
Oh, yeah... by UltimaRex	Apr 29th, 2008 02:25:44 AM
YOU CANNOT KILL A KID IN A SUPERMAN MOVIE! YOU CANNOT KILL A KID IN A SUPERMAN MOVIE! YOU CANNOT KILL A KID IN A SUPERMAN MOVIE!...
YOU CANNOT KILL A KID IN A SUPERMAN MOVIE! by UltimaRex	Apr 30th, 2008 01:52:39 AM
The last word.
YES YOU CAN by Lost Jarv	Apr 30th, 2008 05:24:23 AM
deal with it.
NO YOU CAN'T by UltimaRex	Apr 30th, 2008 09:42:40 AM
Deal with that.
I vote for a piece of rubble falling on the kid by just pillow talk	May 1st, 2008 08:02:39 AM

YOU CANNOT KILL A KID IN A SUPERMAN MOVIE! by UltimaRex	May 7th, 2008 03:46:18 AM
Making him shit himself is pretty close to the line.

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