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An Interesting Hint About The Next SUPERMAN Film?? Presuming There Is One...

lift things..in ANGER! by just pillow talk	Apr 24th, 2008 08:32:04 AM
Let the battle begin!
Get rid of the son.... by BanAllFIRSTPosters	Apr 24th, 2008 08:32:39 AM
please.
THIRD! by Chadley BeBay	Apr 24th, 2008 08:34:34 AM
Wow, my dream of being first is slowly coming true! Superman not too cool, btw
Superman gets pissed and starts wrecking havoc by GibsonUSA	Apr 24th, 2008 08:36:15 AM
That'd be awesome.
such a non story by Rupee88	Apr 24th, 2008 08:37:55 AM
must be a slow news week
He ends up in the hospital again? by Spacesheik	Apr 24th, 2008 08:40:17 AM
Also lots of stalking former girlfriends and getting beaten up by homophobic thugs is also featured. The new 165 minute movie will include a 3 minute action sequence involving Superman lifting a rock.
My kids by secretcylon	Apr 24th, 2008 08:40:19 AM
really like Superman Returns. I've tried to watch it with them on many occasions, but I've never drifted away from a movie so many times and so consistently. I've seen the beginning and end of that movie many times but I don't think I've ever seen "the middle." It's a very strange, muddled, boring movie. The Kevin Spacey scenes are terrible.
Smallville--THE MOVIE by batjac	Apr 24th, 2008 08:40:29 AM
Cannot possibly see how a movie with the Smallville cast could not be better than Superman Returns. Everything about it was bad--from the bad suit, bad- no terrible- Brandon Routh, hack director- hey Singer, how's that Tom Cruise movie coming?, the worst Lois Lane in the history of Superman, the way off base son of Superman, no real villain to fight, the overdone religious symbolism, and last and least--Kevin Spacey whose portrayal of Luthor made Gene Hackman look like Lawrence Olivier. Here's an idea DC--Live action JLA new Frontier sequel.
Paradise Lost: The Movie by PotSmokinAlien	Apr 24th, 2008 08:42:22 AM
"Particularly interested in the story arc of Lucifer." That sounds like an idea from a Christopher Guest film.
Hancock Preview by BanAllFIRSTPosters	Apr 24th, 2008 08:42:27 AM
at this link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =Q1hsKYtez4w
why make a sequal to that crummy Superman? by Groothewarrior	Apr 24th, 2008 08:42:41 AM

Please, please, please... by UltimaRex	Apr 24th, 2008 08:44:40 AM
Let the "angry god" be Darkseid. Plus (said before, said again and will say forever) YOU CANNOT KILL A KID IN A SUPERMAN MOVIE!
Stalker Superman to Angry God Superman by cowboyone	Apr 24th, 2008 08:46:03 AM
Sounds like the Dark Knight story arc. WTF? Thats' too easy ... and completely out of character. I dunno why they can't seem to get this right. There is great material that can be culled into some really fun, spectacular stuff.
DevilCat Hit It. Brad Bird and Bruce Timm by cowboyone	Apr 24th, 2008 08:48:12 AM
That'd be spectacular. Then the studio wouldn't feel so compelled to "darken and modernize" the character.
They've already screwed up this franchise by justgetreal	Apr 24th, 2008 08:48:38 AM
I mean come on. Where did the continuity go? Superman can lift a rock the size of Rhode Island, even if it's filled with kryptonite? Somehow, a piece of kryptonite on a chain around his neck shouldn't be able to incapacitate him to the point of drowning. Fuck. Just bring back Richard Pryor and that stupid fucking computer, why don't you?
YOU CANNOT KILL A KID IN A SUPERMAN MOVIE! by UltimaRex	Apr 24th, 2008 08:48:59 AM
Worth saying again. You all know some idiot will say it. "Duh... Kill the kid. Duh...."
Puny Supes. Hulk SMASH! by Dr Gregory House	Apr 24th, 2008 08:49:22 AM

Angry God who "lifts" everything including our spirits. by Jugdish	Apr 24th, 2008 08:49:44 AM
Lame Lame Lame
justgetreal... by UltimaRex	Apr 24th, 2008 08:50:47 AM
One word: Bedrock.
YOU CANNOT KILL A KID IN A SUPERMAN MOVIE! by UltimaRex	Apr 24th, 2008 08:52:41 AM
Just a few more times. Promise.
Maybe he meant Angry Dad cause his kid killed a man by Jugdish	Apr 24th, 2008 08:52:56 AM
That's the ticket
The Angry God Concept Ain't Bad by uppercanuck	Apr 24th, 2008 08:53:30 AM
I could see it work, assuming his anger is derived from something like harm coming to Jason or Lois & Richard putting lead siding over their house.
Get rid of Singer! by Laserhead	Apr 24th, 2008 08:57:06 AM
And Super-baby! And Gay-Stalker-Liar-Superman. And Lois-I-start-sleeping with-another-guy-and-tell-him- it's-his-kid-as-soon-as-you-di sappear-for-a -day Lane.
Reboot it just like with the Hulk... by lynxpro	Apr 24th, 2008 08:57:22 AM
Take the best elements of Smallville, ditch the bad, and bring it to the big screen. Ditch Singer and everyone else that was involved in the previous outing.
I loved Superman Returns by Stuntman Joe	Apr 24th, 2008 08:57:25 AM
I have no idea why everyone hates this movie. I have been a huge Superman fan since seeing the first one when I was 5 years old and I think that this one hit all the right notes. Yes it is slow but so is a good meal. I hope Brian Singer gets to make another Superman movie and if he does, I'll be first in line.
"something like harm coming to Jason" by UltimaRex	Apr 24th, 2008 09:00:17 AM
Thumbing the nerve, thumbing the- Who am I kidding? That's acceptable.
and by batjac	Apr 24th, 2008 09:01:03 AM
likely the only person in line. At least you'll get a good seat.
You can stop with the "gay Superman" thing too... by UltimaRex	Apr 24th, 2008 09:03:38 AM
Watch SR again and tell me Superman is gay. I dare you.
Sorry Mr. Singer, I'm looking forward to this about as much... by redtom	Apr 24th, 2008 09:04:38 AM
...as I am looking forward to my triple root canal next week i.e. not a whole lot...
batjac by Stuntman Joe	Apr 24th, 2008 09:04:39 AM
Oh man... I hope so.
since when does Legendary get a say in story direction? by waggy	Apr 24th, 2008 09:05:32 AM
I was under the impression that all they did was put up the money, and Warners made all the creative decisions.
YOU CANNOT HAVE HOT ANAL ACTION IN A SUPERMAN MOVIE! by rev_skarekroe	Apr 24th, 2008 09:07:14 AM
But you can dream. Oh, how you can dream!
Maybe they're bringing back . . . by Nice Marmot	Apr 24th, 2008 09:08:23 AM
. . . the evil Superman from SupermanIII w/ the slightly darker red cape. Bowling alley owners beware . . .
Jeeze, Superman Returns wasn't that bad by Sithdan	Apr 24th, 2008 09:09:28 AM
Everyone makes Superman Returns out to be like Godzilla '98 or Batman & Robin. It wasn't that unwatchable. I was glad just to see Superman back on the big screen. The only thing I really found wrong about it was its lack of action. It needed to be testosteroned up a little bit. Other than that, it was a solid Superman film.
Batjac... by UltimaRex	Apr 24th, 2008 09:09:53 AM
SR, Opening day, London IMAX and the place was packed! I'll bet MOS will be packed too. Quit speaking for the human race.
We Need Emo Superman... by KosherWookie	Apr 24th, 2008 09:09:59 AM
Half the flick will be him trying to figure out how to cut himself. Soundtrack to include Johnny Cash's cover of 'I Hurt Myself Today.'
Bring Back Nuclear Man! by I_Snake_Plissken	Apr 24th, 2008 09:12:17 AM
Can you imagine how much better Superman’s “Great Wall of China” vision would be if it were updated based on today’s special effects? He could rebuild the wall in half the time it took in Superman IV.
Actually that sounds like a good idea by CherryValance	Apr 24th, 2008 09:13:55 AM
If I was Superman (or God for that matter) I'd be pissed at how much people suck. As long as the kid gets crucified, I'm all for it.
rev_skarekroe... by UltimaRex	Apr 24th, 2008 09:14:14 AM
You sir, made me chuckle over a subject which usually makes me spit blood. I salute you!
Superman goes EMO?!?!!!!!! by BRUTICUS	Apr 24th, 2008 09:14:15 AM
I wonder if he will post youtube videos to the world
WTF? Yes, "Angry God" is SO in character for Superman... by SpyGuy	Apr 24th, 2008 09:14:22 AM
George Reeves needs to come back from the dead and start smacking the crap out of some studio execs. Superman is a hero. H-E-R-O...Someone you look up to that inspires you, not an "Angry God." (Sighs)
YOU CANNOT KILL A KID IN A SUPERMAN MOVIE! by UltimaRex	Apr 24th, 2008 09:15:24 AM
That was quick.
Maybe "angry God"... by Sledge Hammer	Apr 24th, 2008 09:16:04 AM
...equals Darkseid. Now that'd be cool. Damn hard to pull off convincingly in a two hour film though...
Enough Already!!! by Jazner	Apr 24th, 2008 09:17:38 AM
Okay, I get that Superman has ALWAYS been a metaphor for the story of Jesus Christ, and I'm cool with that. However, can we keep things in perspective here and make another SUPERMAN movie, not a theology piece? I don't want 'an angry god,' I want an angry as hell BRAINIAC, preferably in the form of Jason Isaacs, that's willing an able to kick the living hell out of the Man of Steel. THAT is what this franchise needs.
Why doesn't he just fight SOMETHING!!!!!!!!!! by SuperSooner	Apr 24th, 2008 09:17:53 AM
I want to see Superman FIGHT!!!! F all this psychobably storyline BS. Fuckity fight something already!
Superkid by krish-0	Apr 24th, 2008 09:19:25 AM
I actually liked the idea of Superman and Lois having a kid. One of the few things about the movie I did like. I didn't hate SR, but I did find it very boring. I've tried a few times to watch it again, because I think I should like it, but I just lose interest every time.
You know what the next Superman sequel needs? by DerLanghaarige	Apr 24th, 2008 09:24:33 AM
The nozzle!
Ya... by Drwyrm2002	Apr 24th, 2008 09:27:24 AM
I read this like 5 days ago.
YOU CANNOT KILL A KID IN A SUPERMAN MOVIE! by UltimaRex	Apr 24th, 2008 09:27:39 AM
Say guys I'm going to have to go do other things. Can someone hold down the fort? All you have to do is copy and paste YOU CANNOT KILL A KID IN A SUPERMAN MOVIE! any time someone even hints at killing Jason. C'mon! It's fun!
So they still don't understand the character by INWOsuxRED	Apr 24th, 2008 09:28:07 AM
Maybe they should just wait and see if the Justice League people know how to portray Superman and then run with that version if they manage to get it right.
Maybe the "angry god" isn't Superman. by rbatty024	Apr 24th, 2008 09:29:59 AM
Maybe it's the villain, like Darkseid. I would love to see some of the New Gods brought to life on film. It would also be pretty cool to get Superman off Earth for a while and in space for most of the film. That's an aspect that hasn't been dealt with as fully as it could be.
I see someone mentioned Darkseid before me. by rbatty024	Apr 24th, 2008 09:30:48 AM
Anyone else looking forward to a Darkseid appearance?
Superman Returns II:Revenge of the Alamony by INWOsuxRED	Apr 24th, 2008 09:32:10 AM
Superman gets angry that he has to support his child and a woman he had sex with once, while he doesn't get custody, thus the transformation from stalker/deadbeat dad to full blown ANGRY GOD! Just what everyone wanted.
Superman Returns = disaster movie by kwisatzhaderach	Apr 24th, 2008 09:32:34 AM
and not in the 'Towering Inferno' sense.
Pull a "The Incredible Hulk" and reboot this thing ... by Luscious.868	Apr 24th, 2008 09:34:35 AM
If Marvel can do it then DC can. Singer ruined the X Men franchise by leaving and the Superman franchise by agreeing to to make the movie. Sign a director that has proven they can handle action movies but have also demonstrated they can make a decent small budget drama as well (eliminating McG, Micheal Bay and others), get new leads for all of the major roles and have Superman take on a villain that we have yet to see on the Big Screen who can go toe to toe with him (Darksied, Doomsday, Braniac .. but don't use the name Brainiac). It's a fucking no brainier. If done right it's a 3 or 4 movie billion dollar cash cow.
DevilCat FTMFW! by Atomica	Apr 24th, 2008 09:40:02 AM

DevilCat FTMFW! by Atomica	Apr 24th, 2008 09:40:02 AM

Sounds as dull as SR by Movietool	Apr 24th, 2008 09:43:18 AM
Let me join the chorus: Reboot! Reboot! Reboot!
Killing kids in a superman movie... by mojorising74	Apr 24th, 2008 09:43:44 AM
Wasn't there a scene in Superman II where the lesbian superhero has the big guy throw his siren and kill the kid on the horse? I know it wasn't in the theatrical version, but I feel like that was the version I saw on TV. "He was just a boy!" Delicious lipstick smile. "He'll never be a man."
cowboyone's Dark Knight story by JML9999	Apr 24th, 2008 09:44:25 AM
I recall Newer Animated Batman Lois Killed in timeline Superman goes Capeless and Black and 20+ years later Superman rules Earth with police Droids.
DevilCat is right on the money, by Atomica	Apr 24th, 2008 09:47:16 AM
These two guys truly understand the Superhero genre, and how to present it without making it Goth, Antihero, MoDerNiZeD or Losing the Spirit of the character. You can make a character fresh and relevant and still stick to their core character nuances and plot devices. We don't need an angry Superman. We don't need a dark Superman. We just need Superman. And the fact is, Smallville is consistently more watchable than Superman Returns (or Superman 3 and 4, Lois and Clark and the Superboy TV Series for that matter)ever was and that's with taking alot of liberties with the mythos, making things more connected in his past than was originally written in the comics. Tom Welling is ten times the Kal El than Routh is. Not saying they should use the Smallville cast, simply stating that if the person portraying the Big Blue Boy Scout on the Silver Screen can't match Welling at the very least, then theydon't need to be cast as in the lead role.
Darth Busey by Darth Busey	Apr 24th, 2008 09:48:30 AM
Keep Routh and Worthington, and throw out everything else. And for the love of God, enough with the origin.
Film Morrison's All Star Superman by Spartacus Hughs	Apr 24th, 2008 09:48:57 AM
Keep Routh. Loose Bostwick.
Darkseid by Judge Briggs	Apr 24th, 2008 09:51:09 AM
Bring in Paul Dini and Bruce Timm. I mean, they have worked for you, WB, for years... call them on the phone and have them come up with a Darkseid movie split into two! Gawd, would be amazing.
Speaking of Lois and Clark by Herb West	Apr 24th, 2008 09:51:26 AM
Too bad Dean Cain went on to a career of one bad B movie after another.
Superman Returns > Spiderman 3 by GibsonUSA	Apr 24th, 2008 09:56:38 AM
If you had the two DVDs next to each other, I'd pick up Supes. Stop getting all over-dramatic about how bad it was. Like someone said, it wasn't Batman & Robin like some of you try to make it out to be. And rebooting is nonsense. Reboot a $200 million generating movie that it itself was a restart? Give me a break.
A good old fashioned reboot is needed here by nerosday	Apr 24th, 2008 09:57:48 AM
I think Supes would be best served by starting over really. Returns was okay as a movie in general, but the direction Singer took it in terms of the kid and terrible miscasting of Lois are reprehensable to me. I liked Routh as Superman really, but he was more a new incarnation of Reeve than anything else. I want the Superman and esspecially Lex Luthor I grew up reading about. I hated the con-man/super genius schtick, give me the shadowy head of Lex corp any day. I want Lex to be a true menace again. I never felt that from Hackman or Spacey. Give us a new Supes Gerard Butler, or some other actor who can be physically imposing, they don't have to be six five, just have them fill out the suit, you know. I want Lois to be tough, not stupid. I like the Marsden character and think it be interesting to see Clark have a good natured guy to compete with for Lois' affections, but the kid absolutely must MUST go. Lex should be a foil and background character, but with him being the villian in nearly every movie to date lets establish him in the new role and leave him like a shark lurking in the background. The villian should be someone that poses a true threat to the whole world. Someone worthy of Superman. My vote is and always has remained Darkseid. that would truely be awesome, but he too must be a real actor, not CG I'm utterly sick of CG villans.
Take a hint from Marvel... by solitaire	Apr 24th, 2008 09:59:33 AM
As my father would always say, the first step in fixing a mistake is admitting you made one. Superman Returns wasn't the worst movie ever, but it wasn't great, either. The suit was bad (why mess with simplicity and perfection? Donner knew that) the story was bad (a character that loves his adopted world so deeply and cherishes life would NEVER take off for years, even to see if a remnant of his homeworld remains. Galactic rescue is what Green lanterns are for. Superman is selfless, not selfish)Don't get me started on the kid (should have guessed that the kid was half kryptonian when apparently every barber in Metropolis broke their scissors on supe juniors shag doo) Point is this, Marvel looked at Ang Lee's Hulk and saw that a new direction was needed, so they bit the bullet and went back. For better or worse, they are doing the same with the Punisher. DC needs to do the same thing here, as they did with Batman. I agree on two previous points: Get Brad Bird and Bruce Timm to head it up, and do it as a continuation of Smallville. At this point, the feeling seems to be that the show (and I am a huge fan)is running out of room, and the cast is getting antsy. Rosenbaum and kreuek are only semi regulars from here on out, but I think they would be more than happy to step into the roles every few years for a film series. Put clark on the bus in the last episode, reboot the franchise as simply METROPOLIS with the first film. Give Welling his shot, not only has the guy proved himself capable, but he was given the blessing of Christopher Reeve. At the time of his passing, I think there were few people who knew as much about Superman or cared more deeply about his meaning to people than Reeve, and him giving his nod, to me, is all the affirmation I need. You can add your justice league origins here, as the show has allready prepped them. The only hitch is Lois knowing Clark before the city and his lack of glasses, but Bird and Timm could sort that out easily enough. Just my 2 cents...-solitaire
Darkseid casting. by UltimaRex	Apr 24th, 2008 10:02:26 AM
Actor: Tommy 'Tiny' Lister. Voice: Helmut Bakaitis.
GibsonUSA by INWOsuxRED	Apr 24th, 2008 10:04:45 AM
That is like saying "this moldy sandwich is delicious compared to that pile of shit".
Hey I have an idea! by fat bears	Apr 24th, 2008 10:04:55 AM
Has anyone suggested killing his kid yet?
I'm also thinking the angry god thing is the villian by Reel American Hero	Apr 24th, 2008 10:06:19 AM
And not Superman itself. I don't think they'd be able to sell much merchandise off a power mad Superman. But someone like Mongul, or Darkseid, now there'd be something. Chances are though it'll be about Lex again, making a Bizarro clone...or creating the movie version of Doomsday or something.
But really... by fat bears	Apr 24th, 2008 10:07:34 AM
If there is a reboot I'm casting my vote for John Hamm from Mad Men as the next Superman. I want to see the mild-mannered Clark Kent from the Fleischer cartoons. And for my second vote I vote that the Alex Ross story about Superman failing to feed the world for a day be included somehow, thematicaly or otherwise.
Dream casting time fellas: Who would you like to see try on the by nerosday	Apr 24th, 2008 10:08:23 AM
And for that matter who would you like as Lex, or anyother villian or supporting member of the cast, like Lois and Jimmy? I thinking about it myself.
Eh? by fat bears	Apr 24th, 2008 10:10:06 AM
Clark Kent just got some bad news: http://tinyurl.com/6fwonc ...eh? Eh???
YOU CANNOT KILL A KID IN A SUPERMAN MOVIE! by UltimaRex	Apr 24th, 2008 10:11:11 AM
Yeah I know fat bears was joking but...
I don't want a movie version of the Death of Superman. by nerosday	Apr 24th, 2008 10:11:58 AM
Enough already the damn story is played out in spades. Please God don't let them do that again. Even the comics version of the actual story was stupid, only the after effects showing all the other superheros reactions and life without him worked to me. Of course you wouldn't be able to do that until after at least a JLA movie came out.
This '"angry God" and "wrath of khan" bullshit is making ME angr by Live.	Apr 24th, 2008 10:13:54 AM
Why the fuck are are these people in charge of Superman, when they obviously don't know anything about him? All of this "angry""wrathful" bullshit sounds like Jon Peters madness has infected them all. DAMN YOU WB FOR PUTTING SUPERMAN INTO THE HANDS OF FRANK MILLER-WANNABE IDIOTS!
As long as he's actually fighting a goddamn super villian, then by Craiggers	Apr 24th, 2008 10:14:25 AM
The Superman movies have always been kind of lame cause he never quite meets his match. That's why I think so many people like Superman 2, cause at least in that one he's fighting other Kryptonians. With the technology available, we could he an EPIC battle to end all battles with Superman going up against Darkseid, Braniac, hell even Parasite would be cool. I like Lex Luthor, but he's a master manipulator - not really much of a head-to-head guy. If he's going to be involved, it needs to be behind the scenes - unless he's using his battle suit.
Superman Returns > Pirates 3 > Spidey 3 by Motoko Kusanagi	Apr 24th, 2008 10:16:02 AM
pwned
Kingdom come Supes would be very cool...... by KnightEternal	Apr 24th, 2008 10:16:22 AM
but I very much doubt they will ever do it :(
Priorities by kesoze4	Apr 24th, 2008 10:18:38 AM
They're thinking about making a movie about the CREATION OF HELL and Lucifer's exile from heaven and all you idiots can focus on is the sequel to what ended up being a just-okay movie?
kesoze4 That really does sound like that could be awesome by nerosday	Apr 24th, 2008 10:20:56 AM

Dumb idea by mikegator	Apr 24th, 2008 10:21:08 AM
Superman is a boy scout, not an angry god. This will fail miserably is they do this. I won't see it.
DerLanghaarige by Kurutteru Yatsu	Apr 24th, 2008 10:21:27 AM
Please wait while the disembodied head of Marlon Brando calibrates... . ..the nozzle.
Maybe the angry god isn't supes by krushjudgement	Apr 24th, 2008 10:22:21 AM
Or maybe he's not angry at humanity. I loved Superman Returns!
KID DIES. Superman cries & mopes, beats villain. Cries more by Live.	Apr 24th, 2008 10:22:31 AM
The breaks off Lois' marriage so he can get pity fuck. THE END.
Reboot. Timm to direct, Dini and by Dingbatty	Apr 24th, 2008 10:24:06 AM
McDuffie on script duties. Make it so.
Hellboy > Constantine > Superman Returns by Live.	Apr 24th, 2008 10:27:42 AM
BURN IN HELL WB!
Devilcat is right on the money by Snookeroo	Apr 24th, 2008 10:28:02 AM
Look, it's just not that hard. Throw out the wreck that was Superman Returns and start over (and I DON'T mean another origin story..is there ANYONE on the planet that doesn't already know Superman's origin?)There's 70 years of good material -- look at some of the Denny O'Neill stories. Get Dini. Get Timm. Get Bird. Don't re-imagine Superman. Don't re-invent him. Don't make him a god (Thor territory). Don't make him angry (Hulk territory). Don't load him with angst (Spider-man). Don't make him a boy...make him a full-grown man. SuperMAN, get it? Don't put him in a friggin' rubber suit. Don't make him gay. Don't make him a stalker. Don't use Luthor as the villain. Ever. Again. Don't make it camp. Take a look at the movies that work -- what do they have in common? They're true to the source material. Do that. It's just not that hard.
As long as Singer ain't attached.... by Thot	Apr 24th, 2008 10:28:34 AM
....then I'm in! "Angry god"? We don't need another dark, morose Superman film dammit! I think most of us want the Big Blue Boy Scout in a shiny, more colorful, exciting, action-packed, Lois-loves-Supes, universe! I guess I'm too much the romantic.
Is this a fan art? by ludmir88	Apr 24th, 2008 10:31:41 AM
http://tinyurl.com/6maaq6
While I agree that Supes HAS to fucking fight a real villian by shitstorm23	Apr 24th, 2008 10:32:45 AM
I just wish most people could see Luthor for how fucking cool he could be as this corporate mastermind. Instead of some bumbling, real estate-scamming, jerk-off, grandma-fucking doofus. This does need a reboot, it might not have been as bad as Spidey3, but it was bad. Bad costume, bad Lois casting, that fucking kid, the lonely watcher horse shit. Supes is upbeat, Batman is the one with all the angst.
this one looks cool without the titles by ludmir88	Apr 24th, 2008 10:33:30 AM
http://tinyurl.com/6xqupp
Superman or Captain Marvel? by fat bears	Apr 24th, 2008 10:36:40 AM
There's a lot of people in here wishing for bright and sparkly, child-like wonder adventures for Superman... are you guys sure you're not wishing for Captain Marvel? The best Superman stories I've read have always been about Power, and how an adult can use it to the betterment of the world. I mean, yay for madcap fun and child-like wonder but that's kind of a different guy (who I love BTW, yay Big Red Cheese!)
What's next?....A Fucking Space Cloud? by riddleman1674	Apr 24th, 2008 10:41:12 AM
Jesus Christ! (No pun intended there) Common you fucking nipple loving, painted flame giving, franchise RAPING corporate goons! Wake the fuck up! I think everyone has waiting thirty fucking years to see a villian other than Lex Luthor, General Zod, and the ultra gay Super Sun Fucking Fabio! hint you idiots, while youre sitting up their scheming your next plan to stick it to the fanbase....BRANIAC, PRANSKTER, METALLO, BIZZARRO, DOOMSDAY, TOYMAN, DARKSIED...HELL even MXYZPTLK was rumored at one point....mmmm...nah lets use GOD as the main villian. There you go and while we're at it, piss off the most of the free religious world. I mean if people could whine and cry about movies like Dogma, imagine the field day they would have on this one?! No wait, you know what go ahead, do it. Let the boycott begin and fuck the franchise for a revival in another 10 years! sigh....I feel like I just gave birth haha. You Hollywood douchebags will never learn. Nuff' said.....
CGI Darkseid with Michael Ironside doing the voice by SpyGuy	Apr 24th, 2008 10:41:43 AM
My God, it would be glorious...
shitstorm nails it by Lost Jarv	Apr 24th, 2008 10:43:26 AM
SR was fucking horrible. It was comfortably the worst movie I saw in a summer of shitty fucking movies. Just pretend it didn't happen, gently delete the masters, exile Singer and scriptwriters and start again.
But, but, but Harry said Superman Returns was a masterpiece!!! by McFly in the Ointment	Apr 24th, 2008 10:44:33 AM
How can the francise be so messed up when Bryan Singer did such an incredible job on the first movie??? No biases here folks... Harry said: "And finally today I saw a SUPERMAN film that is no fantasy – no careless product of wild imagination. No, my friends… this is the film I was hoping and dreaming for. A movie to reintroduce SUPERMAN to the world. Many would take this to mean that I was "predisposed" to love SUPERMAN RETURNS - actually - for me, that's not exactly true. I could have shown up today and found a basket of lies and false hopes. I could have not seen the film I saw. A film filled with love and beauty. To not brush the original films of my childhood away like artifacts of a misguided time. Instead – what Singer, Dougherty and Harris have done – well… they too liked the first and second films. And they dared to honor them, but not be beholden. To acknowledge, while reinventing. And – not so much improving, but learning from the mistakes of an era."
No to fully GCI villain by Live.	Apr 24th, 2008 10:48:00 AM
It lessens the sense of danger. The Hulk film worries me on this account.
For all of you who missed me... by McFly in the Ointment	Apr 24th, 2008 10:50:06 AM
I've been on other sites that have actual movie "news." This story broke on April 22: http://www.rottentomatoes.com/ m/superman_returns/news/172349 6/comments/ Another nice job there, Ain't It Old News!!!
Let's have Bryan Singer direct a Lex Luthor as an Angry Widow Ba by McFly in the Ointment	Apr 24th, 2008 10:52:44 AM
Harry would say it's the movie he's dreamt about for 40 years!
Lex Luthor-SUPERMAN III. by Herb West	Apr 24th, 2008 10:55:34 AM
Please Explain
supe returns was HORRIBLE. laughable. very laughable. by THE_ONE_MAN_GANG	Apr 24th, 2008 10:55:47 AM
Singer is wrong for all movies that require action, because he is a pussy. Snyder would be a great choice for superman...someone who can finally bring some originality to a supe film.
I have a dream by nerosday	Apr 24th, 2008 11:00:07 AM
A dream of seeing a backlit Darkseid walking down the long spiralling tube of light that is a boom tube, and walking out onto a city street facing Superman, and a little smirk cracks across the slab of stone that is his face, as those solid red eyes gleam ever so slightly. If I ever see that on film I swear I will have a terminal geekgasim and die right there.
Not so much wondering where you were by Lost Jarv	Apr 24th, 2008 11:00:16 AM
as hoping to fuck you didn't come back. We get it, you don't like Harry, you hate the site etc. Now be a good little troll and piss off back under your bridge.
Snyder would be a great choice for superman by Herb West	Apr 24th, 2008 11:00:24 AM
Yeah, Snyder is doing pretty good so far.
It was pretentious by toadkillerdog	Apr 24th, 2008 11:04:41 AM
It was not a horrible movie. It was not badly made. It was simply badly envisioned, scripted, cast, directed, and costumed. The moment the first still hit, it was 'Oh no'. I do not care what Singer's sexual proclivities are, he should never have tried to create a gay Superman costume. Which is exactly what he did. Secondly: It has a boring, non engaging plot, and a rip off of as well. I remember a post from someone that cracked me up it said 'Singer called Donner just to hear him breathe'. Thirdly: The whole point of a Superhero action adventure movie, is to bring the action! There is nothing wroung with creating nuance in superhero characters, and Singer has proven he can do so, just as he has proven he can direct action, but for the life of me, why after 20 some years, he and Warners, chose to make a big budget snooze-a-thon, I will never know. If Supes returns - again, give him a super powered villain to fight, and skip the Jesus imagery. When most of the viewing public goes to a superhero mvie, we expect to see superheroics, not an examination of existentialism.
If Snyder nails Watchmen he could do Supes anyday by nerosday	Apr 24th, 2008 11:04:50 AM

An angry god can kill anything he wants! by SpiceMonkey27	Apr 24th, 2008 11:05:56 AM
Stalker sopes finds out the kid is not his and kills him & kate bosworth, then he drinks liquid Kryptonite and dies, the end
An angry god can kill anything he wants! by SpiceMonkey27	Apr 24th, 2008 11:06:04 AM
Stalker supes finds out the kid is not his and kills him & kate bosworth, then he drinks liquid Kryptonite and dies, the end
Lost Jarv!!! by McFly in the Ointment	Apr 24th, 2008 11:09:48 AM
I promised I wouldn't tell anyone on the site that you're actually Harry, but you've left me no option... So angry. So very, very angry. Why are you such an angry Lost Jarv?
TKD? by Lost Jarv	Apr 24th, 2008 11:11:06 AM
It wasn't a bad movie, it was just badly acted, written, cast, envisioned, costumed, directed, boring, pretentious and missed the point. What the hell is a bad movie then?
idiot. by Lost Jarv	Apr 24th, 2008 11:11:48 AM
Yes, I'm Harry. Well done, have a twinkie.
And I don't hate the site, Lost Jarvy... by McFly in the Ointment	Apr 24th, 2008 11:12:07 AM
I just think that given all the exciting things happening in the film industry right now (with Iron Man, Indy, Dark Knight, HellBoy, SpeedRacer, etc. coming out this summer), the site could report actual "Cool News" instead of old Superman news about a movie that should not be made!
So You Guys Call it "The Man Of Steel" & by ThePilgrim	Apr 24th, 2008 11:12:41 AM
You ignore the Returns flick and Brandon Routh. Doooooo Itttt!!! Cast a 40 something with brawn and grey hair who looks more like GR.
Marvel by McFly in the Ointment	Apr 24th, 2008 11:14:06 AM

Marvel by McFly in the Ointment	Apr 24th, 2008 11:14:08 AM

i'm in no hurry to see another superman by BMacSmith	Apr 24th, 2008 11:14:44 AM

Marvel's actually getting it right... by McFly in the Ointment	Apr 24th, 2008 11:16:14 AM
... with secondary characters like Iron Man and DC/Warner can't even do a proper Superman movie! Who's running the show over there, Lost Jarv??? Lost Jarv, who's the Teen Titans script coming along?
Yeah.... by Herb West	Apr 24th, 2008 11:24:28 AM
Without Nolan and the Batman franchise, D.C. would probably be Bankrupt/Out of business by now.
Superjeebus by pokadoo	Apr 24th, 2008 11:24:51 AM

Herb West is right!!! by McFly in the Ointment	Apr 24th, 2008 11:27:25 AM
DC should hold on tight to the Nolan Bros. They're the only people alive who can actually create a strong DC property... unless Harry's to be believed and Bryan Singer really did do a great job on Spuerman Returns. Such a good job, in fact, that they are rushing to do an "angry god" sequel. Nice job, Lost Jarv, you Twinkie lover.
Superman failed by ThePilgrim	Apr 24th, 2008 11:30:12 AM
The terrorist planned too many attacks at the same time. Supes managed to stop a few planes, and a bomber in a subway, but he couldn't prevent it all. Supes lands in front of suicide bomber, the bomber clicks the ignition button. He blows up in front of superman, at this exact instance supes uses he super breath to blow away the exploding man. As I said supes had too many planes to stop from falling from the sky too many bombers too prevent, finally a silica based dirty bomb is launched from the Chrysler building out one of the windows. It blows up, the silica infects the air around New York. Killing millions. Like two swords striking at different areas at the same time against a single blade. Supes lost. The world blames him in turn, he refused to save them anymore. Many years pass the world is involved in the biggest global war in it's history. One of America allies have just turned on them and joined the other side. Then Comes the Darkseid..
YOU CANNOT KILL A KID IN A SUPERMAN MOVIE! by UltimaRex	Apr 24th, 2008 11:30:35 AM
Just a name: Adam Grant. Look him up if you have to.
Maybe Darksied is the angry god? by krushjudgement	Apr 24th, 2008 11:30:44 AM

Hollywood doesn't 'get' Superman. by ZeroCorpse	Apr 24th, 2008 11:35:11 AM
They want Superman movies to either be love stories, or introspectives about the nature of power and responsibility. None save Superman II got the comic book theme of good versus evil right, and Superman II was still a mess. Really, stop trying to make Superman movies. You keep casting young 20-something guys who don't look old enough or authoritarian enough (or big enough) to be Superman. You keep harping on the 1940s stories featuring the Daily Planet, the Lois love affair, and the real estate plot by the evil mastermind. Just stop. If you're not going to make a SuperMAN movie that focuses on the Man of Steel fighting against superhuman threats, then DON'T FUCKING BOTHER. I am NOT watching another lame 40's-style romantic comedy mixed with a lot of scenes of Superman lifting stuff.
I think.... by Herb West	Apr 24th, 2008 11:37:56 AM
we can get off the whole angry god deal now. It was just a comment that the guy made when he was talking to a bunch of students. I think people are making way too much out of it.
I also totally agree with ZeroCorpse by McFly in the Ointment	Apr 24th, 2008 11:38:26 AM
To have a man from another planet with superpowers come to earth and only face individuals from earth in a standoff to make it more "realistic" is actually just lame as hell... and it's been done over five Superman movies!!! JUST DON'T BOTHER, all you Lost Jarvs.
HULK SMASH! SUPERMAN LIFT! by random dude	Apr 24th, 2008 11:41:03 AM

McFly in the Ointment by Herb West	Apr 24th, 2008 11:43:34 AM
Yes, Even Elektra had some super villains in it. Elektra, for fuck's sake!
random dude is right by McFly in the Ointment	Apr 24th, 2008 11:43:57 AM
We need a lot more creative thought on the direction of the next Superman movie and a lot fewer Twinkie-eating Lost Jarvs screwing up the creative process. Shame on you Lost Jarv!
Superman the deadbeat dad. by Underoos Hero	Apr 24th, 2008 11:45:00 AM
From what I've been reading on a few webzines, This last Supe movie has kinda hurt Brian Singers career and rightly so. Returns was a wash out of a movie and a loss of great opportunity. It was more of a movie for Brian Singer. Like most directors a "see what I can do"? movie. Yes Brian we saw what you did and it sucked very badly. Now go work at Starbucks or something.
SUPERKID = BIZARRO by cncoyle	Apr 24th, 2008 11:45:04 AM
Luthor cloned Superman (again) and put the embryo in Lois (don't ask how). Superman fights Bizarro Boy and cries when delivering the final blow. 1/2 Emo Poetry + 1/2 Hamlet (inversed) = SUCCESS
My guess is... by Kid Z	Apr 24th, 2008 11:45:06 AM
...If court rulings keep going the Siegel's way, DC's going to get out of the Superman business (it's not their top money-maker anyway) which will mean his disappearance as a pop culture icon. He'll end up being like the Shadow or an endless array of forgotten Golden Age comics characers. Too bad, but I always preferred Batman anyway. Besides, it's nice to see that Karma can still be in effect after 70 years. Good for the Siegels, I hope they see at least some money out of this since DC (or National, as it was then known) screwed Siegel and Shuster over so royally back in the day.
Herb West said it best! by McFly in the Ointment	Apr 24th, 2008 11:45:34 AM
Frankly, I think Electra was even better than Superman Returns, but don't tell Harry and Lost Jarv that. They'll get all hissy with you. Harry dreamt of Superman Returns since childhood.
Superman Idea by Chilli815	Apr 24th, 2008 11:46:46 AM
What happens when a 'God' starts to question the point of humanity? That's the crux of my idea, taken into a direction where Superman becomes the villain and Lex becomes the hero. The basic gist is that Superman starts to realise how bad humanity sucks, and as a result just starts taking it down as a construct bit by bit. He stands in front of trains moving at full speed, he picks people off the street and just throws them as far as he can, he sets an orphanage on fire... the guy is basically a vengeful deity. So its up to Lex to save the world, which he does by making everyone think he's aligned with Superman, and then tricking the last son of Krypton into drinking a chocolate milkshake containing liquid kryptonite. For some reason, the thought of Lex being a hero for killing a mass murdering Superman amuses me.
Not Fast Enough.... by ThePilgrim	Apr 24th, 2008 11:47:51 AM
I'm tell you have a shit crazy world based mass terroristic attack. Have Supes flying all over the place trying too save everyone- only to fail, because lets face it you can't save them all no matter how strong or fast you are. A dirty bomb goes off in 100 miles above NY city- making it un inhabitable. Supes is blamed for America's woes. Bring the country too war against China, Korea and Iran. Stop focusing on a love story. Supes go too his fortress of solitude and ignores the worlds bullshit as it fights itself. Then Darksied shows up.
McFly in the Ointment... by UltimaRex	Apr 24th, 2008 11:47:53 AM
You're just hot for Lost Jarv's bod aren't you? You can admit it...
As for Singer... by McFly in the Ointment	Apr 24th, 2008 11:48:14 AM
If you think ditching the X-Men franchise for Superman Returns damaged his career, wait til you get a load of what Valkyrie does to it. Starbucks won't even hire him ... although maybe he could get a job posting "news" on this site or picking up twinkies for Lost Jarv.
Lost Jarv by toadkillerdog	Apr 24th, 2008 11:49:15 AM
LOL well, yeah, when you put my words like that, I guess it does seem like a bad movie! But honestly, I did not think Supes was bad in the sense that I walked out of it thinking I had wasted two hours, and ten bucks. I compare it to a truly bad movie like Spidey 3 - which was a total waste of time. Supes was boring, but boring is not necessarily bad, it is just not good. If that makes any sense? I am in no way defending Supes, I could not stand it, but I have levels of what I consider 'bad movies'.
UltimaRex... why? by McFly in the Ointment	Apr 24th, 2008 11:49:44 AM
Why would you point out the obvious. Lost Jarv's been working out with Twinkies, waiting for our time together.
toadkillerdog... besides having the best name on this site... by McFly in the Ointment	Apr 24th, 2008 11:50:41 AM
... you're an idiot.
Superman Returns by Chilli815	Apr 24th, 2008 11:52:02 AM
Was bad? Go see Ghost Rider, then tell me that SR is a bad flick. At least SR didn't have Nicholas Cage eating sweets from the inside of a wine glass.
Brad Bird + Paul Dini + Bruce Timm + Dwayne McDuffie by blindambition238	Apr 24th, 2008 11:52:08 AM
= a movie none of us deserves.
Can't they at least... by Kid Z	Apr 24th, 2008 11:53:36 AM
...get Bwyan Thinger'th dainty li'l paws off this franchise? I mean, they managed to get rid of Joel Schumacher, it seems like the should show Thinger the proverbial curb as well.
Chilli815... by UltimaRex	Apr 24th, 2008 11:54:39 AM
So at the end SINO is on the floor and Lex is standing over him shouting "Drainage! DRRRIAAANNNAGE!!! Kal-El, you boy!".
Chilli815 by McFly in the Ointment	Apr 24th, 2008 11:55:17 AM
You realize you're comparing Bryan Singer's Superman to Ghost Rider. You are correct that Ghost Rider was worse, but comparing the two speaks volumes. And Harry and Lost Jarv - the two Twinkie lovers - loved Superman Returns. So very, very sad.
Why supes can't blow away the dirty bomb silica by ThePilgrim	Apr 24th, 2008 11:56:49 AM
it mixed with a sticky substance so it sticks to whatever it settles on and it's laced with kyptonite.
Ultimarex by Chilli815	Apr 24th, 2008 11:57:48 AM
No, at the end Lex has taken the unconscious Superman and placed him in a lead room, and pierced his nose/ears/eyebrow and lip with a kryptonite ring, so that he'll always be poisoned in some way.
There already is an angry god in Superman... by OBSD	Apr 24th, 2008 11:57:52 AM
His name is Darkseid. I know! You could have Superman fight him! No, nevermind. That would make sense and it would be something people would actually watch.Just keep Lex Luthor around with yet another retarted real estate scam, but this time, Superman has to fight a whole PLANET of Kryptonite. Yeah, that's so much better than making a good movie. Or, why don't we just extrapolate the ridulous ideas that Singer has given us. Supes is already a deadbeat dad, so lets make him a meth addict as well! But....but! The meth is mixed with Kryptonite! Yeah! That'll be great! Because watching a 2 and 1/2 hour movie about superhero with "issues" is so much better than watching him actually have to fight an enemy with equal or greater power than him!
McFly in the Ointment by Chilli815	Apr 24th, 2008 11:59:00 AM
My rationale was merely to point out that, however bad people may think (and I disagree with it being bad, personally) SR is, GR is a far worse example of a comic-book film. And this from a guy who thinks the chap behind GR did a great job with DD.
McFly in the Ointment... by UltimaRex	Apr 24th, 2008 12:00:08 PM
Fair enough. I'll just draw a veil over the whole thing and leave you two to it...
Superman: Richard Pryor Returns by Underoos Hero	Apr 24th, 2008 12:03:09 PM
Since Singer went back to the 78 Superman and nabbed some Marlon Brando footage for Returns. Why not go back to Superman 3 and grab some Richard Pryor footage and cgi his ass into a new Supes flick. He could be this "wacky" villain that goes into this big machine and come out as a superhuman, kills Supes bastard child and then has a climactic battle over Niagra Falls. Awesome.
Chilli815 by McFly in the Ointment	Apr 24th, 2008 12:04:36 PM
I don't disagree! At least DareDevil had some bloody action and a watchable bad guy (and a better looking babe!). To see a poor remake of Superman and Lex Luther fighting was so incredibly lame only Lost Jarv could have come up with that idea. And for Superman to lift AN ISLAND OF KRYPTONITE didn't even allow viewers the ability to suspend their disbelief!!! I'm glad Harry liked it though. No biases.
MONGUL by cncoyle	Apr 24th, 2008 12:05:20 PM
Mongul is an obvious choice, because you've got a pissed-off warmongering alien who doesn't need much backstory. Warworld shows up, Superman is all "Nuh-uh, I wuv Earf" and ultimate fighting begins. Heck, make it all Matrix-y if they gotta... Jackie Chan as Gangbuster and Jet Li as Shadowdragon!
McFly in the Ointment by random dude	Apr 24th, 2008 12:05:41 PM
That's a funny nickname alright.
At least DareDevil had some bloody action... by Herb West	Apr 24th, 2008 12:07:15 PM
That's true. The Director's cut was a far better movie, too bad most people never saw it.
YOU CANNOT KILL A KID IN A SUPERMAN MOVIE! by UltimaRex	Apr 24th, 2008 12:07:35 PM
NOT
Since none of you all is being serious by ThePilgrim	Apr 24th, 2008 12:08:43 PM
Darksied infects superman with a lust toxin (something along the lines of spanish fly and viagra- it makes supes horny as hell) Superman flies all over the planet raping and killing all the pretty women too death.
UltimaRex by Underoos Hero	Apr 24th, 2008 12:08:52 PM
Rambo Did It.
Thanks random dude by McFly in the Ointment	Apr 24th, 2008 12:09:08 PM
I like your nickname too. Now why not go step in front of a bus, you Twinkie-eating Lost Jarv!
YOU CANNOT KILL A KID IN A SUPERMAN MOVIE! by UltimaRex	Apr 24th, 2008 12:09:48 PM
EVEN
McFly in the Ointment by Chilli815	Apr 24th, 2008 12:10:11 PM
I liked SR, on the record. But I also like Congo, so...
YOU CANNOT KILL A KID IN A SUPERMAN MOVIE! by UltimaRex	Apr 24th, 2008 12:10:35 PM
WITH
"angry god" = Superman: King of the World by cncoyle	Apr 24th, 2008 12:10:50 PM
I bet that's the direction they're going. Tons of Superman Robots (watch out, Donna Troy!) and Dominus w/ his floating hands! (floating hands! Ruuuuuun!!!!)
YOU CANNOT KILL A KID IN A SUPERMAN MOVIE! by UltimaRex	Apr 24th, 2008 12:11:15 PM
RICHARD
UltimaRex by Chilli815	Apr 24th, 2008 12:11:22 PM
Can't kill the kid? Not even if he's evil and stabs Superman in the crotch with a jagged piece of Kryptonite? Cause that's the point of no return. Just cause Superman doesn't get laid often, doesn't mean he wants to be literally cock-socked.
YOU CANNOT KILL A KID IN A SUPERMAN MOVIE! by UltimaRex	Apr 24th, 2008 12:12:07 PM
PRYOR!
No Superman reboot - just make no mention of the kid by Yeti	Apr 24th, 2008 12:15:01 PM
And for gods sake introduce a villian we haven't seen on the big screen yet, Doomsday, Darksied or Solomon Grundy (born on a Monday)
Actually... by Herb West	Apr 24th, 2008 12:16:50 PM
The Superman 2 Director's cut was a better movie, too.
by ThePilgrim	Apr 24th, 2008 12:17:06 PM
superman starts ripping women off the streets. He drops them down on top of the roof of a wal-mart building. he blows off all their clothing. He makes his demands. Rub your tittes, eat her out, from a line, eat each other out. Supes goes nuts he super fucks them all they bleed uncontrollably and scream in pain. Supes cums all over them, it burns through their skin like acid. Supes flys away. The women on the roof become a boiling pool of goo.
Rambo is Rambo... by UltimaRex	Apr 24th, 2008 12:17:20 PM
He ain't Superman
Superman is a corny character to begin with by BozeMaster69	Apr 24th, 2008 12:18:07 PM
Superman is a dinosaur from the age of "good clean and wholesome". The reason why Superman Returns failed miserably is because the film-makers tried to modernize him...give him an edge. Superman having a child with Lois Lane seems like a now aborted attempt to capitalize on a possible spin-off featuring Superboy. Bryan Singer has gone on record as stating that he was a huge fan of the first two Superman movies (personally I'm a huge fan of the first one). The fact that he tried to give him an "edge" as opposed to just picking up where the second one left off was a failure. Another issue that I have with Superman Returns is that they blew their load early on in the film with the spectacular space shuttle sequence. The "money shot" of Superman flying above the clouds to absorb power from the sun seemed a little too "Bird-manish" for me. The only thing missing from that scene was an eagle sidekick!
Lost Jarv, why are DC/Warner Bros... by McFly in the Ointment	Apr 24th, 2008 12:18:22 PM
so afraid to introduce other Superman villians besides Lex Luthor. It makes you wonder whether they feel these characters are too weak for wider audiences.
ThePilgrim by UltimaRex	Apr 24th, 2008 12:18:59 PM
GF left you?
DWAYNE JOHNSON by Shermdawg	Apr 24th, 2008 12:20:52 PM

Nah, I still see your Mom UltimaRex! by ThePilgrim	Apr 24th, 2008 12:21:00 PM
I make her wash out your dick smell. It's all good!
Shermdawg ol' buddy, ol' pal... by UltimaRex	Apr 24th, 2008 12:23:35 PM
How's that dead horse?
Afraid to introduce other Superman villians by Herb West	Apr 24th, 2008 12:23:40 PM
That's a good point. What they have been doing is basically the same as if every single Batman movie had the Joker as the villain. If that happened fans would freak, but no one seems to notice or care when it's Luthor in every movie.
Blame Kyptonite For everything by ThePilgrim	Apr 24th, 2008 12:23:54 PM
It's why Singer likes cock, Kevin Spacey, and gay guys playing the main villain, oh yeah. It's also why he fears yellow and blue..
ThePilgrim, you're a real gentleman! by McFly in the Ointment	Apr 24th, 2008 12:25:02 PM
That's some nice language there. Real classy thoughts. You need to turn off your computer, leave your basement, and get some fresh air. Go grab a coffee and a muffin. Try not to let those "mean thoughts" get the better of you.
How does rebooting make ANY business sense? ???? by GibsonUSA	Apr 24th, 2008 12:25:49 PM
Superman has a legion of followers of the 80's movies. After about two decades, this character finally returned, and introduced to a whole new generation. Merchandising up the butt. A $200 million box office take. Brandon Routh's face is now seen as the character and the new universe is established. A 77% on rottontomatoes. The masses accept it. Now give me a good business reason to reboot this? Because YOU don't like the casting? Because YOU don't like the kid? because YOU somehow claim that it could have made 100x more money? Psssh....whatever. Superman Returns was fine. It was a solid movie. And the next one should continue and build off from there.
Fuck Superman, how bout those other projects? by dr sauch	Apr 24th, 2008 12:27:19 PM
Akira? WTWTA? Paradise fucking Lost? I'm on board with whatever Legendary wants to do.
You haven't stopped her bitching ThePilgrim... by UltimaRex	Apr 24th, 2008 12:27:44 PM
Not man enough I see...
The great epic Superman movie will get made by Dasher	Apr 24th, 2008 12:27:55 PM
It's going to happen, whether Singer does it or somebody else. Superman will duke it out with a villain like Doomsday or Darkseid and the CGI havoc will fly. Superman Returns wasn't that great, but I think Singer learned his lessons about what NOT to do in a Superman movie. I'd be willing to give him another shot - as long as he writes the kid out of the series.
Lex Luthor-lite.- SUPERMAN III by Herb West	Apr 24th, 2008 12:28:54 PM
That's about it.
Paradise fucking Lost by Herb West	Apr 24th, 2008 12:30:53 PM
Yeah, I can't believe no one is talking about that.
Ultimarex & Mcfly Win!!! by ThePilgrim	Apr 24th, 2008 12:31:51 PM
Gayality!!!
I want what GibsonUSA is having by McFly in the Ointment	Apr 24th, 2008 12:32:52 PM
Talk about rose colored glasses. You must be smoking some Twinkies with Lost Jarv to think Superman Returns wasn't a big pile. Even Harry would have to admit he botched his call ion this one. I don't know what favors Bryan Singer promised Harry for that stinker of a review!!!
Tired of hearing about Singer- WB needs to kick by ThePilgrim	Apr 24th, 2008 12:32:55 PM
his ass off the lot. Hated the X-men too!
GibsonUSA by Herb West	Apr 24th, 2008 12:33:22 PM
Re: "And the next one should continue and build off from there." I think that's the point. Just where the fuck can you go from there?
Superman: Son of Krypton Father of Son by Underoos Hero	Apr 24th, 2008 12:33:30 PM
Present day and Superman is tired of everyone not giving a shit so he appears on American Idol for a "message to the people" of sorts with his teenage son played by Shia Lebouf. The viewership ratings for AI are the highest ever and even Simon puts in a few good words for Supe and his bastard son. Superman and his son put on some glasses and regular clothes and head to the strip club to celebrate when all of a sudden Lois calls Supe on his cell phone and says she is going after him for past due childsupport. Now Superman has to battle her attorneys and a State Supreme Court judge who doesn't like him or American Idol. THen just before they walk in to Tattle Tales in Atlanta (they got tired of New York and figured theyd be less noticed in Atl), teen Supe (Shia) gets killed by a cgi Richard Pryor...etc.
ThePilgrim... by UltimaRex	Apr 24th, 2008 12:34:07 PM
Says the man with the clit.
ThePilgram, way to top off the day... by McFly in the Ointment	Apr 24th, 2008 12:34:24 PM
It's great to add a little homophobic spice to the conversation. You must be a real stud with the ladies.
YOU CANNOT KILL A- by UltimaRex	Apr 24th, 2008 12:37:40 PM
Wait, its Shia Lebouf? That's all right then...
UltimaRex by Underoos Hero	Apr 24th, 2008 12:38:36 PM
Just for you...
Ho-mo-jo-bo-mo-fo's by ThePilgrim	Apr 24th, 2008 12:38:59 PM
yeah PC just isn't my thing. PC is for pussies afraid too keep things real. Fags work in pairs for more than sex and marriage rights I see. Damn Fly and Ulti stop gaying up on me!
YOU CANNOT KILL A KID IN A SUPERMAN MOVIE! by UltimaRex	Apr 24th, 2008 12:39:14 PM
Joking aside, back to business.
ThePilgrim by Underoos Hero	Apr 24th, 2008 12:40:16 PM
Don't knock a fag till you try one. Just sayin'.
ThePilgrim, you're a spicy one! by McFly in the Ointment	Apr 24th, 2008 12:40:20 PM
You can join our threesome anytime, big boy. And, bring Lost Jarv the Twinkie with you...
ThePilgrim, stop "gaying up" on ME by UltimaRex	Apr 24th, 2008 12:43:56 PM
The "He-man woman hater" thing was old in the 80's.
Pofta Guild of America by ThePilgrim	Apr 24th, 2008 12:44:05 PM
Oh you sillys are something else.
Speaking of HE-MAN by Underoos Hero	Apr 24th, 2008 12:45:38 PM
The four horseman are releasing a whole hew line of He-Man figures this year. Woo Hoo!!
If you can't kill a kid in a superman movie... by OBSD	Apr 24th, 2008 12:46:00 PM
Can you retcon him away? Just have it be that Mr. Mxytlk was fucking with Superman in the Superman Returns and sent him into a world of medocrity. Then, once Supes defeats Mxy, we can move on and finally be rid of that kid, cuz he never really existed. Works for me.
SUPERMAN RETURNS RULES! by FleshMachine	Apr 24th, 2008 12:46:06 PM
take that haters. not 100% perfect, but a perfect blend of old and new.
YOU CANNOT KILL A KID IN A SUPERMAN MOVIE! by UltimaRex	Apr 24th, 2008 12:47:20 PM
Right, gonna keep focus on the message now.
Hey... by Herb West	Apr 24th, 2008 12:47:36 PM
since we are way off topic, have you guys seen the Salute to the Talkbacker thing yet? It's something every talkbacker should see at least once. http://tinyurl.com/5u3wz8
Who the fuck says "wrecking havoc"? by Kurzinski Valentine	Apr 24th, 2008 12:48:12 PM
it's "WREAKING HAVOC" you fucking stupid-ass shitbrained asstards.
I dunno about rebooting... by fat bears	Apr 24th, 2008 12:48:19 PM
If you were to get a new director, a new cast, new set and costume designs... then maybe you could keep the basic story thread. Him having a kid doesn't have to be that bad a thing, especially if that kid winds up being used as a stand-in for Jimmy Olsen or Robin, i.e. a potential target that Supes' enemies can take advantage of. And that can be saved at the last minute, because, after all, you can't kill a kid in a superman movie. At least, that's what I hear. Me, what I'd do, is kill the kid AND Lois's shmuck husband and give him the role of Hank Henshaw/Cyborg Superman in a very adjusted telling of The Death of Superman. Oh, and I'd like to see the Eradicator and more of Krypton and Brainiac while I'm wishing....
give the kid gold nails, a leotard, & a perm. by ThePilgrim	Apr 24th, 2008 12:48:22 PM
Cover him in baby oil, and bring back Gene Hackman and a missle..
Jokes aside by Underoos Hero	Apr 24th, 2008 12:48:43 PM
The public would be confused as hell, but who cares about them? How bout Superman in his black costume (no cape) being all angry and stuff then fighting doomsday on some cool planet?
Underoos Hero by Herb West	Apr 24th, 2008 12:51:23 PM
The public wouldn't be any more confused than with Hulk, Punisher or Batman Begins.
Here's a thought: Have Superman act like Superman by krack	Apr 24th, 2008 12:51:50 PM
I know, it's apparently a completely unique and novel approach to the character to have him behave as he has for sixty years, but let's give it a shot. I'm willing to believe that Superman is not a complete asshole and that he doesn't skulk around Metropolis like an emo child molester or deadbeat dad.
You are so right! by OBSD	Apr 24th, 2008 12:51:59 PM
It's got the lame real estate scam by Lex Luthor of the old with some new shoegazing by Supes and a new cumbersome "deadbeat dad" twist! It's perfect!
OBSD... by UltimaRex	Apr 24th, 2008 12:53:13 PM
Good luck making Mxy fly with the gen' aud'.
"You know you should make a Superman film? Brad Bird." by hank henshaw	Apr 24th, 2008 12:53:42 PM
I agree with DevilCat. Based on The Iron Giant I presume Brad Bird is a fan of Superman. Too bad it'll never happen.
Come On... by Herb West	Apr 24th, 2008 12:53:46 PM
Real estate scams were really cool in 1948.
AC DC BACK N BLACK by ThePilgrim	Apr 24th, 2008 12:54:29 PM
Supers flys in his blaket and nothing else. The black suit shit is gay. The whole going black is gay. The only thing in black thats cool is AC DC and Metalica. Fuck this black suit trend. Whats next a black hellboy, a white blackula, a black whiteface Robert Downey Jr.
I'm wary of the Akira remake by theredtoad	Apr 24th, 2008 12:56:05 PM
Leo as Kaneda? Hrmm... i dunno.. kinda iffy..
Herb West by Underoos Hero	Apr 24th, 2008 12:56:20 PM
True
Just out of curiosity.... by Cletus Van Damme	Apr 24th, 2008 12:57:06 PM
...can you kill a kid in a Superman movie?
Who's Handling the Conan trilogy? by Underoos Hero	Apr 24th, 2008 12:57:23 PM
This is what I'm looking forward to the most. Mostly.
fat bears... by UltimaRex	Apr 24th, 2008 12:57:32 PM
I never said you cannot kill Richard...
Cletus Van Damme by Underoos Hero	Apr 24th, 2008 12:59:11 PM
Goddamned right you can! Like I said before. Have a CGI Richard Pryor throw his little ass into Niagra Falls. You don't have to actually show it though. Just cut the camera at the last minute and suggest it.
McMaggot in the shit by toadkillerdog	Apr 24th, 2008 12:59:35 PM
I thank you for liking my screen name.
What If.... by Herb West	Apr 24th, 2008 01:02:15 PM
We CGI Richard Pryor having a crack pipe blow up in his face and then have Supes fly in and put it out with his freeze breath. That's something I would pay to see.
SUPERMAN 4: QUEST FOR PEACE > SUPERMAN RETURNS by billybobhoyle	Apr 24th, 2008 01:02:18 PM
Come on, come on, give me Darkseid. Enough of the Luthor crap.
Kill Richard! by fat bears	Apr 24th, 2008 01:03:33 PM
Kill him and then have his intelligencec preserved in Brainiac's kryptonian computers until he gets a fancy-pants cyborg body and comes back to Metropolis with amnesia thinking he's Supes, until he gets his memory comes back and goes ape-shit on Supes for taking his kid, his wife and his life....
UltimaRex.. by OBSD	Apr 24th, 2008 01:06:05 PM
Oh, you could make it work. Here's how you make the character work. You don't have to make him a midget or give him a stupid costume. That would look dumb. First, get Gilbert Gottfried to play him. He's perfect. Secondly, put him in a purple suit with a bowler hat (both of those things are from the aimated series, but stay with me) Third, think about it. Who is Mxy? He's a being of godlike power who loves to fuck with people and is completely bored out of his skull. Along comes Superman who is the most exciting thing he's seen in a while, and he becomes obsessed. If you think of him in terms of a nerdy annoying fanboy stalker with a fragile ego who also has near-unlimited power, there is potential there. And I think the general audience can relate to the idea of the creepy weirdo who just won't leave you alone.
What If by Underoos Hero	Apr 24th, 2008 01:08:19 PM
Supes and his Teenage Super Son (played by Shia of course) is flying around one day and with his super vision Teen Supe sees CGI Richard in an alley smokin' some crack, flies down, smack the crack pipe out of his hand and gives him the "Just Say No" Mrs. Reagan speech. Then an all cracked out CGI Pryor tells them both to fuck off. Then Supe looks around to see if anyone is looking and with his Kryptonian powers inflicks CGI Pryor with MS.
Why rebooting wouldn't hurt business: by blindambition238	Apr 24th, 2008 01:08:21 PM
I think SR was a decent movie too, but just not the grand return we were waiting for. I'd say Superman is Superman whether they reboot him or not. Like other icons such Batman or James Bond, its going to make money no matter what.
I wonder if we'll get to see where the money went this time? by BiggusDickus	Apr 24th, 2008 01:09:14 PM

Did they already do An Angry god Superman? by mistergreen	Apr 24th, 2008 01:11:54 PM
Remember when he turned evil when exposed to Kryptonite? Was that Sups 3 or 4? It had Richard Prior in it.
Did they already do An Angry god Superman? by Herb West	Apr 24th, 2008 01:13:32 PM
Yes. Now they've remade it. It's called Hancock.
Underoos Hero by Herb West	Apr 24th, 2008 01:15:05 PM
"Then Supes looks around to see if anyone is looking and with his Kryptonian powers inflicts CGI Pryor with MS." That was bad. Even for you.
Herb West by Underoos Hero	Apr 24th, 2008 01:16:37 PM
HA! Sorry.
"Then Supes looks around to see if anyone is looking and with hi by blindambition238	Apr 24th, 2008 01:16:58 PM
Is that before or after he uses his heat vision to light him on fire?
YOU CANNOT KILL A KID IN A SUPERMAN MOVIE! by UltimaRex	Apr 24th, 2008 01:25:29 PM
Last time today I promise.
When threads die... by Herb West	Apr 24th, 2008 01:27:02 PM
they really die, don't they? Wow.
How About This... by Underoos Hero	Apr 24th, 2008 01:31:33 PM
Jimmy Olsen is hanging out one night in his favorite gay club David's when low and behold he spots Clark Kent tearing up the dance floor with this hot shirtless Latin dude. Olsen cannot beleive what he see. Not only does he not beleieve that Clark may be gay but just can't get over how he's cuttin' a rug. Clark seems to to be "floating" on air as he jukes up and down the catwalk. Jimmy is filled with anxiety (Clark or no one knows yet that he is gay) and happiness at the same time because he has always had a man crush on Clark. They do work close together everyday. Jimmy sits and watchs as this shitless Latin dude gets all of Clarks attention and he becomes insanely jealous. Jimmy makes his move and decides enough is enough!. It's his time to come out and shine. So he puts his drink down, heads toward a vogueing Supe and cuts in between Clark and the sweaty shirtless, long dark haired Latin dude. "Can I have this vogue"? Asks Jimmy with his little hair parted and whisping to the side. Shocked, Clark looks down and pauses. "I thought you'd never ask." he says. They violently grab each other as they start to Rumba across the dance floor. The night leads to hot super sex and they find themselves the next day feeling uncomfortable at work. Lois is mad because she can't figure out why Clark is blowing her off and does'nt want to hear about Kid Supes first baseball game that he missed. Long story short. Supes and Jimmy move to California, get married, adopt Little SUpe and Superman fights a cracked out CGI Richard Pryor while Jimmy takes pictures for the newspaper.
You can Kill a Kid in Superman, but by ThePilgrim	Apr 24th, 2008 01:33:26 PM
it has to be named Brian Singer, and you have too have sex with it first. Kryptonite helps with the sex part.
The only way thats gonna happen is if Singer by ThePilgrim	Apr 24th, 2008 01:35:53 PM
Stops being gay. Naming his child Brian Singer is a given cause he's an ego maniac. He compares himself to Hitchcock and Richard Donner.
Call it: Superman: Men of Steel by Underoos Hero	Apr 24th, 2008 01:36:21 PM

Underoos Hero by Herb West	Apr 24th, 2008 01:40:04 PM
Hilarious. "Shocked, Clark looks down and pauses. "I thought you'd never ask." he says. They violently grab each other as they start to Rumba across the dance floor." Classic. It made me have a laughing fit for a litle while.
There won't be a Superman sequel by hallmitchell	Apr 24th, 2008 01:40:16 PM
They can't even get Justice League up. Superman returns sucked. I said to my friends it will be another twenty years before you see another superman project. It's odds on that Bryan Singers next movie with Tom Cruise will flop. So I don't see Warner Bros will be too gung ho over this.
WB should pay close attention here by filmfanatic1	Apr 24th, 2008 01:40:54 PM
Within all this sarcasm here are some good ideas here for Singer and WB; they should go back to the old Superman animated stories, like Darkseid invading the Earth and brainwashing Supes, and reimagine them live.
I mean... by Herb West	Apr 24th, 2008 01:41:11 PM
little while.
Superman isn't selfless by Bass Ackwards	Apr 24th, 2008 01:41:18 PM
He spends half his day parading around as Clark Kent, how many people around the world are dying while he's making googly eyes at Lois? That's a story line I've always wanted to see addressed, at some point in his career Superman has to realize the futility of Clark Kent and just go full time superhero, of all the superheros, Superman is the least in need of an alter ego. Just be the man of steel dude.
Clark Kent by Herb West	Apr 24th, 2008 01:43:05 PM
gotta eat too!
I am a HUGE Superman fan...and SR DID suck. by Brians Life	Apr 24th, 2008 01:43:37 PM
I mean it's better than Spidey 3, but BARELY. It still amazes me that NO ONE told those teenagers that Singer keeps around that wrote the script that it SUUUUUUUUCKED. A Superman movie is NOT an impossibility....Singer just flat out missed the point. He had a story to tell, but it wasn't a Superman story. And those defending it...STOP IT! It was not a good movie.
Stop saying Singer. We don't want that fuck tard back, by ThePilgrim	Apr 24th, 2008 01:44:07 PM
Return's isn't a remake. It plays in Donners sandbox, and it sucked. Time to remake it all over again. You don't have too replay the origins of Luther's part. Just get us back too the daily planet and give supes a real threat. And kick Singer and Routh out.
Herb West by Underoos Hero	Apr 24th, 2008 01:45:16 PM
hhahaaha. Jimmy didn't even touch the floor that night and cut his ankle a little bit on the ceiling fan.
Is Superman Clark Kent or Vice Versa!?! Thoughts. by Brians Life	Apr 24th, 2008 01:46:09 PM
I mean...Singer clearly went with the notion that Kent is merely a visage. I'm not a fan of that take, as I really like what John Byrne did in the 80's w/ Supes. To go further you could say that Singer's Superman had really NO characterization...I felt that BOTH were simply a mask he puts on.
Brians Life by Herb West	Apr 24th, 2008 01:46:41 PM
Yeah, I really can't believe that any studio even greenlit a movie with a script like that.
Bass ackwards by ThePilgrim	Apr 24th, 2008 01:46:50 PM
Totally fucking agree with you bro. Supes also seems to satop every threat, and thats reaks of the bullshit. Thats why i said a mass terroristic attack in the opening. Where supes can't stop every attack and death. So us the supes can't cure cancer either. Give it too his boy. If we have to see a sequel to returns. I don't want singer back or routh. I want a whole new film, but I doubt we will get it.
Underoos Hero by Herb West	Apr 24th, 2008 01:47:58 PM
At least we know you're not homophobic.
And No more Lex Luthor by hallmitchell	Apr 24th, 2008 01:48:31 PM
He sucks. Sick of him. Give Brad Bird a call. I hate Superman Returns. It should of done for Superman what Batman Begins did for Batman. I remember seeing the preview and thought the preview sucked. I thought there was no way the movie would be that bad and it was. I don't get people who defend this film. It's like defending Transformers.
Herb...it's the case of "can do no wrong" by Brians Life	Apr 24th, 2008 01:50:07 PM
...Studios are blinded at times by cases of back to back successes. Singer was HOT..he was literally being fought over by major studios. But COME ON...that screenplay was point by point BAD MEDICINE!!! All yes men...
hallmitchell by Herb West	Apr 24th, 2008 01:50:27 PM
It's like defending Transformers. Exactly the same.
That sounds ridiculous by Doctor Phibes	Apr 24th, 2008 01:52:28 PM
I am so tired of the Christian analogies people keep making with Superman. SUPERMAN IS NOT JESUS. What's next? Batman delivers the Ten Commandments?
Brians Life by Herb West	Apr 24th, 2008 01:52:39 PM
Yeah, you're right come to think of it. I remember something about the Studios giving Singer full creative control.
I'M looking at things through rose colored glasses? by GibsonUSA	Apr 24th, 2008 01:53:01 PM
1. $200 million domestic box office. 2. $190 million worldwide. 3. 77% fresh score on Rottentomatoes. 4. A restart on a franchise after two decades and the beginning of a new merchandising machine. And you want a REBOOT?? WTF?? Tell me how you made your millions cause I doubt it was through business sense. You have people on here saying overdramatic crap like Superman IV was better and treating SR like a B&R franchise crusher, and you're callin me rose colored glasses....uh huh.
Hey Jarv by spud mcspud	Apr 24th, 2008 01:53:10 PM
You just pissing off all the homos today, aren't you? Never mind, I got your back. Takes the heat off the ol' Spud :D To those who DON

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