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616 or the guy with the guns?
by textual
Apr 17th, 2008
11:06:23 PM
This talkback is going to degenerate into a mess...
by Kai_Mah'gra
Apr 17th, 2008
11:06:28 PM
....really really fast. A black superhero on a Black Entertainment channel. Yeah, I don't see controversy and the obligatory racist douche(s) ; I don't see that happening on AICN.Right.
How long until "BET raped my superheroes!"?
by Pops Freshemeyer
Apr 17th, 2008
11:09:15 PM
"Black Panther was created by white guys and black people can't write him right!"
"...aminated series" Typo or Racism? You discuss...
by FuckMichaelBay
Apr 17th, 2008
11:15:48 PM
Dammit, I was hoping for Black Vulcan.
by themikejonas
Apr 17th, 2008
11:17:11 PM
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In my PANTS.
by Rufferto
Apr 17th, 2008
11:20:24 PM
Doesn
by Rufferto
Apr 17th, 2008
11:24:34 PM
3 decades
by Trik_Ster
Apr 17th, 2008
11:24:51 PM
of being a 17th tier char and suddenly this char is everywhere
Speaking as a black person, all I have to say is...
by Pixeldriver
Apr 17th, 2008
11:24:59 PM
Oy!
Reggie Hudlin did a good job on BP--and Brother Voodoo and Luke
by kabong
Apr 17th, 2008
11:26:08 PM
Black Panther: Bad Mutha The third story arc which features the Panther teaming up with Luke Cage, Blade, Shang Chi, Brother Voodoo and Photon as they save a post-Katrina New Orleans from a vampire invasion.
oops. BP isn't a blatant stereotype
by Rufferto
Apr 17th, 2008
11:28:46 PM
enough to be on BET. Do Power man instead and make Iron Fist his moronic sidekick who tries to be "down" but fails cause he's white.
On second thought that's too good
by Rufferto
Apr 17th, 2008
11:30:29 PM
for TV. That needs to be a movie. Someone get Hollywood on the phone!
Rufferto
by Trik_Ster
Apr 17th, 2008
11:30:39 PM
crack me up
You know...
by jsm1978
Apr 17th, 2008
11:34:31 PM
I think I actually like Rufferto's idea...

by Slappy san
Apr 17th, 2008
11:39:57 PM
I really wish they'd adapt Priest's Marvel Knights run. But of course they won't. *sighs*
Ahh, The Black Panther
by Trik_Ster
Apr 17th, 2008
11:41:11 PM
the cheap ass knock off Daredevil.

Ahh, Daredevil the cheap ass knock off Spiderman


go!


by bibble 3000
Apr 17th, 2008
11:42:04 PM
i know i'd pay to see it
are they going to have...
by jimmy rabbitte
Apr 17th, 2008
11:44:18 PM
...the aardvark on it, too?
Just as long as they don't copy the recent arcs
by oisin5199
Apr 17th, 2008
11:51:49 PM
the current series started out so well and just devolved into nonsensical crap.
Christopher Priest and Mark Texeira
by CeejayNightwing
Apr 18th, 2008
12:36:25 AM
had a great revamp of the Black Panther under the Marvel Knights title. If they don't adapt that version then they might as well not bother doing it at all.
Can we not introduce Black Panther as Storm's husband?
by waggy
Apr 18th, 2008
12:59:27 AM
That would be great, thanks.

And Crash ads on AICN? Never thought i'd see that day.
black panthers were murdering terrorists thirty years ago?
by Groothewarrior
Apr 18th, 2008
01:38:25 AM

by Groothewarrior
Apr 18th, 2008
01:38:39 AM
i guess in thirty years Taliban Beheader will be cable animated
by Groothewarrior
Apr 18th, 2008
01:40:29 AM
cant be any worse than Mantis that show sucked
by Groothewarrior
Apr 18th, 2008
01:42:33 AM
yeah Static X theres everyones favorite..black hero toon
by Groothewarrior
Apr 18th, 2008
01:44:52 AM
If the Boondocks say BET is garbage...
by blindambition238
Apr 18th, 2008
01:46:38 AM
thats good enough for me. Big booty butts! Also just want to point out that Black Panther the comic character existed before Black Panther the revolutionary group (barely).
South Park has the guts to call black guy "Token"
by Groothewarrior
Apr 18th, 2008
01:46:43 AM
Trik_Ster
by Chilli815
Apr 18th, 2008
01:47:59 AM
DD did start off as a Spidey rip-off, but go pick up Born Again. The characters have only surface details in common at this point.
murdering terrorists huh?
by samsquanch
Apr 18th, 2008
01:48:11 AM
Go drink your kool aid, fucking idiot.
"Black Panther" finger fucks black citizen in series.
by Mike_D
Apr 18th, 2008
02:02:03 AM
mark my words.
BET airing cartoons? Lol
by gotham_night
Apr 18th, 2008
02:10:17 AM
24 hours of Boondocks?
One word : Patronising.
by wowsah156
Apr 18th, 2008
03:04:42 AM
Why should Balck Panther be the sole preserve of BET? I think this is a mistake on the part of Marvel. Black Panther is a universal character that appeals to all people ,and to have it on a station that is so tunnel visioned is just daft. They need to licence it to Cartoon Network after BET has broadcast it. I agree that the Priest storylines should be used to keep BP relevant and modern.
Re Patronising
by Platypus5
Apr 18th, 2008
03:47:48 AM
Well I for one look forward to seeing the Black Panther team up with a different rapper each week. Seriously though, why sidline BP as a character for black people. Bad move Marvel.
black panther kill whitey
by Mr_X
Apr 18th, 2008
04:20:15 AM
he married storm? wtf? no interracial loving in the marvel universe? stan lee you racist motherfucker! actually in all seriousness black panther is a second rate daredevil and i cant understand like others why he has become popular all of a sudden. then again. i cant think of many of the "a" type of superhero who's not white either
Will this be complete with out-of-place hip hop subtext?
by Playkins
Apr 18th, 2008
04:55:28 AM
Come on! If it's a show for black people, it just HAS to have a hip hop edge, right? Because that's the ONLY way black people can express themselves, right? Through rap? Am I right?

And yes, hopefully that comes across as the blatant sarcasm it is.

BP on BET?
by Stalkeye
Apr 18th, 2008
04:57:27 AM
I guess after those controversial episode(s)from Boondocks forced the network to clean up it's act.

wowsah156 I concur, BP should be held as a universial character without regard to race.I mean after all the Blade Movies and Spawn Animated series and comics gained universal appeal.Just as Spiderman and he like are admired by all races.

BET is still a strugling network and oe cn't help to think how the animation would look like..then again after seeing how the upcoming Brave and the Bold looks like ass, it won't make a difference.

Speaking of differences, BP is ar from being some DD clone, for one he's not blind.Two he's an accomplish scientist and ruler of an advanced African nation.Three he's stronger than Captain America.

And your point being...

Black Panther was created by Jack Kirby who during the turbulant sixties felt that Blacks should be represented or acknowleged in Comicdom.

DC followed suit with "Black Lightning"?!? Never cared for Luke Cage back then as he was just a parody of the Blaxploitation era and a bit of stereotype.

If anyone should helm the BP series, yes It should be Hudlin,Dywane McDuffle or Matt Wayne.

Stalkeye: agreed
by Playkins
Apr 18th, 2008
05:01:51 AM
Well put, Stalkeye. This character needs to refrain from being a cheap stereotype.
Rufferto
by Stalkeye
Apr 18th, 2008
05:08:13 AM
The Black Panther Movie was in development hell for over a decade. Originally Wesley (Snipes) wanted the rights for the character, somehow he ended up doing Blade instead.

a Movie would have been cool but who would be right for the part if not Snipes? Maybe Micheal Jai White but NOT 50 Cent.Aw hell naw!!

As for the animated series,It only maks sense that Keith David reprise his voiceover role as T'challa like he did in the Fanatstic Four cartoon (Circa 1995)

Keith is the Sam Jackson of voiceovers:Spawn,Halo,Mass Effect,Justice League,Navy ads, you name it.Chiles is da muthafukin man!!

Black Power is about black empowerment
by Alcevious
Apr 18th, 2008
05:27:13 AM
If they do this right it could make BET worth watching -- although even that might not save it.
Hells yeah!
by rbatty024
Apr 18th, 2008
06:32:32 AM
Huey P. Newton, Bobby Seale, and Eldridge Cleaver taking on the U.S. government. This is going to be one kick ass cartoon.
It should be on there
by DeusExMachina
Apr 18th, 2008
06:34:22 AM
Seeing how the network is trying to change it's image somewhat and have more "black entertainment", other than just music videos, then I think it's a good idea.
Is Barry Obama in this?
by Ashok0
Apr 18th, 2008
07:01:50 AM
:-/
Reason to watch BET now
by Dazzler69
Apr 18th, 2008
07:20:00 AM
Black Panther was great a few years ago in comics. Ross a white sidekick working for the gov babysat him and accidently made a deal with the devil for a new pair of pants he ruined in front of him. "I can't believe I sold my soul for a pair of pants!" Great storytelling there. No way BET will capture that. I always thought Wes Snipes was going to play him in big movie. Might still happen someday. Hopefully BET gets Boondocks animi to do the show, that looks great, but it's crappy writing for that show too.
THe most obvious live action Panther would be...
by blindambition238
Apr 18th, 2008
07:31:55 AM
Chiwetel Ejiofor. Dude can play compassionate and intelligent (Dirty Pretty Things) as well as physically intimidating and badass (Serenity and maybe Redbelt).
Blind, was that the same guy who starred in.
by Stalkeye
Apr 18th, 2008
07:34:55 AM
American Gangster and Talk to me (starring Don Chedale)? You might be on to something.
How long is it gonna take for Hannity...
by Kid Z
Apr 18th, 2008
07:50:19 AM
...to confuse T'Challa with Huey Newton and have that little twat Stephanopoulis swiftboat Obama with questions about why he owned comic books about a radical terrorist when he was 8 years old. Of course that hideous old lez Hilldog will jump right in with her usual "...and spearchuckers!" comments, too.
"You're Quite hostile, aren't you?"
by Aquatarkusman
Apr 18th, 2008
08:23:00 AM
"I got a right to be hostile! My people been persecuted, man! They stole all our vibranium!"
Reggie Hudlin
by TheBloop
Apr 18th, 2008
08:42:39 AM
Who recently wrote the "Black Panther" comics, taught for summer at a film school I went to back in 1992. Guy was kinda of a racist. What a surprise, huh?
Stalkeye
by blindambition238
Apr 18th, 2008
08:49:33 AM
Yep he was in those flicks. I haven't seen them but I'd have to imagine he was good in those as well. Hell, the guy was even good hamming it up in that Marky Marky movie Four Brothers.
TheBloop
by blindambition238
Apr 18th, 2008
08:55:53 AM
Apparently he's the President of BET now... I guess the dots are starting to connect. Also, I really haven't cared for his recent run, so lets hope he's not going to have a hand in the series. For me, the ideal team for writing Black Panther, movie or series, would be Christopher Priest who relaunched it a few years ago and Dwayne McDuffy who obviously knows good comic storywork (DCAU).
meh they should have funded the new spawn
by palewook
Apr 18th, 2008
09:02:12 AM
animated series mcfarlane tried to get off the gound 2 years back.
Boondocks Weggie Rudlin
by EvilWizardGlick
Apr 18th, 2008
09:04:04 AM
""My Harvard education tells us that our goal is to take all the s***ty reality shows that MTV did five years ago and make them black… Next month we're going to have our first award show honoring video hoes, or as I like to call it, a hoe-wards show.""
Double edged sword here
by terry1978
Apr 18th, 2008
09:05:14 AM
Am I glad he's getting a series? Yes. Am I glad it's on BET? Not so much. I don't want this shuffled inbetween a lot of other garbage, at least make sure it's in prime-time or something so people can find it.
Watch the Boondocks BANNED BET episodes
by EvilWizardGlick
Apr 18th, 2008
09:10:46 AM
Download and watch the Boondocks BET episodes. The last two or three were banned.
Funny no one mentions what they REALLY need...
by rotgut1
Apr 18th, 2008
09:16:25 AM
LUKE CAGE, POWER MAN! Oh yeah.
Chilli815
by Trik_Ster
Apr 18th, 2008
09:50:50 AM
do you think my Local Lending Library will have that piece of Mighty Marvel Madness?
BOONDOCKS - what the hell happened???
by Russman
Apr 18th, 2008
09:56:21 AM
did all the new episodes air? There was no promotion for it at all this past year. What's going on?
Only if it leads to team-ups . . .
by SkidMarkedUndies
Apr 18th, 2008
10:04:49 AM
with other Avengers will this show be worth watching. Pass.
I bought a coupla those Marvel Essentials...
by Kid Z
Apr 18th, 2008
10:24:35 AM
...Fantastic Four editions. One of them had the introduction of the Black Panther. The FF go to Wakanda... awesome Kirby art! Of course I'm sure we won't even see a glimmer of that in the new animated version. Eh... whattaya gonna do?
blindambition238
by TheBloop
Apr 18th, 2008
10:44:37 AM
Hey could be an ok guy. We worked together for six weeks. But honestly, he didn't come off as that talented or bright. I give him credit for living his dream of being a filmmaker. He showed us his just finished student film "house party". That was before it got made with a bigger budget. And sorry, I just didn't see anything that clever or artistic in his work, beyond the fact he was a young driven black guy who wanted to make movies. Not like he came from the 'hood either.
Sweet Christmas!!!
by TheGhostWhoLurks
Apr 18th, 2008
11:11:51 AM
Yeah, introducing T'Challa as "the guy who married Storm" IS kind of a cheap shot. But having the character on BET would be the BEST thing that's happened to that network in... I don't know HOW long!

Just, please... make him single and base the character on Jim Owsley (Christopher Priest)'s run on the title.

Oh, and yes... the Boondocks IS the funniest and most clever cartoon on TV today. Thank you. :)

black panther's more like dr. doom than anything
by Jed
Apr 18th, 2008
11:34:14 AM
the whole "my own country" thing. BET has no standards of quality whatever, so I'm not holding my breath; still, in spite of myself I've rather enjoyed Reggie Hudlin's BP. I even like the marriage. I think Storm's a skrull.
BOONDOCKS ROCKS!!!!
by WickedMonster
Apr 18th, 2008
12:14:02 PM
12:00 am is my primetime, starting with Robot Chicken and ending at 1:30 am with the last Harvey Birdman episode of the day. Most of the time, I don't make it till 1:30.

They should make a movie out of Catcha Freeman. Now that would be bad-ass...

FUCK BET
by Harry Weinstein
Apr 18th, 2008
12:15:40 PM
Black EEEEEEEVVIIIILLLLL Television.
On "The Boondocks"
by Harry Weinstein
Apr 18th, 2008
12:25:48 PM
Since this site didn't cover it worth a shit (not cool, AICN, not cool), the reason season two of BOONDOCKS was so under-the-radar, with episodes all out of order, was because they rip BET a new one in unbelievably libelous style. Sony (producers of BOONDOCKS) and Cartoon Network were scared to pick that particular fight on US soil, so those episodes never ran and Season 2 BOONDOCKS continuity was more-or-less ruined as the episodes were clearly meant to be watched in a particular order. The "banned" episodes eventually aired... in Canada, on Teletoon. Seek them out and watch BET catch a warm one right between the eyes.
Re: "Token" on South Park.
by ZeroCorpse
Apr 18th, 2008
01:35:20 PM
Yes, his name is Token, but what's even better is that his last name was originally "Black", and they changed that later.

That being said, the best thing about Token is that he's the richest kid in town. He speaks better English than the white kids, his parents are doctors, and he's probably got the most self-respect of any South Park character. He doesn't take Cartman's crap, for example.

Boondocks, however, is awesome. It's the only anime-style show I'll watch.

Black Panther??? About time!!
by Spank
Apr 18th, 2008
01:36:59 PM
Black Panther was the first major comic character of color in mainstream comics, LONG before the exploitation craze(s) of the 70's and well deserves, not only his own animated series, but it's proper place in comic's history. Let's hope the producers have enough sense to peel back all the layers of crap that has been heaped upon the character by all the so-called "writers" and take this character back to his original intent, that of being an African prince in charge of a small, yet VERY powerful and wealthy 3rd world country, who not only thirsts for adventure, but also has the welfare of his "subjects" at heart. This has possibilities of being an incredibly strong and influencial role model- as well as a great adventure series that EVERYONE can enjoy- let's hope the producers don't screw it up! I look forward to seeing it! Better that than most of the stereotyped, mostly poorly done minority characters that have followed him. Side notes; 1)Jack Kirby created a large number of ethnic characters, VERY few of which were stereotypical, and some of which were outright odd (as were a number of his creations). 2) Out of all the minority characters created by the "big 2" (Marvel and DC)there really isn't another character with as much going for him as Black Panther- and frankly it's a true shame that these comic publishers haven't stepped up with more and better.
"Black's Evil Television"
by blindambition238
Apr 18th, 2008
02:01:08 PM
Yea I can see why BET pulled those episodes. You can easily find it on youtube though if you punch in "Boondocks" "BET" and "Banned" and its pretty damn funny.
TheBloop
by blindambition238
Apr 18th, 2008
02:06:24 PM
When I said I didn't really care for him I meant his Black Panther run which while not terrible by any means, just kinda bores me; especially the whole married to Storm thing though that was most definitely not his idea and probably will be retconned soon. Though his imdb profile doesnt impress me too much. But yes I'm looking forward to hearing and seeing what the project will look like.
On another note: Ex Machina anyone?
by blindambition238
Apr 18th, 2008
02:09:16 PM
I was just thinking that a Black Panther series could be the closes thing to having a version of BKV's EX Machina on tv. I mean you have a hero who also has to rule an entire country. It would be a shame if they don't go into the mechanics of being a politician of sorts.
BET sucks but it's getting better
by versatol
Apr 18th, 2008
02:16:09 PM
I always hated that they couldn't air anything except bad videos. But I think the new one that McGruder ripped them with the Boondocks, they are making an effort to improve... and the Black Panther is just one of those ways.
Jay Z as Black Panther!
by Pops Freshemeyer
Apr 18th, 2008
02:55:08 PM
They can change him from king of Wakanda, to the top record producer in Wakanda or something. That would be sweet.
What about Ant Man??
by nathan0774
Apr 18th, 2008
04:00:52 PM
He can shrink himself down to the size of an ant while maintaining his full human strength. "Hey Hulk... getta load of this guy! Got the strength of a human!"
OMG...
by mr ahole ramirez
Apr 18th, 2008
04:27:43 PM
...AICN is talkin bout BET...it feels like the world is bout to explode...

...I just cant wait when a animated BP shows on Hell Date or Spring Bling...thats somethin I would like to see on BET (either that or McGruder bashin the channel 24/7)...

PS: GO VH1!

Keith David should voice.
by mr_sinister7381
Apr 18th, 2008
05:08:40 PM
...
BET?
by ungabunga
Apr 18th, 2008
05:52:19 PM
Not to go too deep here or anything but isn't the fact that a BET exists racist? I'm not saying that for the reason you think, & ya I think everyone should be able to have their own channel. My point though is that I think the more that we seperate ourselves the longer racism is gonna exist. Just a thought Go BP, I just hope it's not gonna be the same sloppy amatuer hour crap animation (or character design)used for the Marvel movies (UA 1&2, IM, DS). P.S. Can't we just start calling the guy "Panther" from now on? He's a black man, he wears a black outfit, panthers are black, we get it by now.
RE: ungabunga
by mr ahole ramirez
Apr 18th, 2008
05:58:01 PM
....I agree totally wit what youre sayin...BET is racist against all races(unless accompanied by Timbaland)...I hate that channel and wanna start my own hunger strike alas Huey Freeman...but no one would care...
Calling BET racist is like complaining about national women's da
by samsquanch
Apr 18th, 2008
06:27:25 PM
And thinking it's sexist. Why isn't there a National MAN's day?? Forgetting, of course, that Every fucking day is national man's day, which makes it necessary for there to be a women's day in the first place.

Only the dominant culture has the luxury to be completely unaware that they ARE the dominant culture. wake UP.

BS
by j2talk
Apr 18th, 2008
06:51:03 PM
just calling it BET is RASCIST....do think you could get away with WET? or how about Ebony magazine, think i could publish Ivory without people called a racist...not to mention people telling me that IF i don't vote for Obama then i MUST be a racist because there "couldn't possibly" be any other reason NOT to vote for him......GET REAL the are RACIST of all colors don't try to deny it.....until people stop identifing themselves as ______American and start saying I am an AMERICAN we'll still have racism
And thus...
by samsquanch
Apr 18th, 2008
07:02:13 PM
my point is proven.
J2talk must be 5 years old.
by Dreadlock Holmes
Apr 18th, 2008
07:18:17 PM
You have much to learn.
BTW, Black Panther ISN'T a Daredevil knockoff
by Dreadlock Holmes
Apr 18th, 2008
07:30:43 PM
Proves some of you ignoramuses haven't read his comic. He is the KING of a technologically advanced African nation. And a former Avenger. Daredevil does what again?? He also holds the distinction of being the first black superhero.
race
by j2talk
Apr 18th, 2008
07:38:47 PM
Race is only an issue to people who make it an issue..... I am an American not ____american those who feel the need to identify themselves by race are they themselves racist...
wise words
by samsquanch
Apr 18th, 2008
07:40:22 PM
out of the mouths of babes and sucklings...
let me take a wild, crazy stab in the dark guess here, j2
by samsquanch
Apr 18th, 2008
07:42:22 PM
You're white, right?
J2talk is probably typing from his room in fantasy land
by Dreadlock Holmes
Apr 18th, 2008
07:54:24 PM
Pay him no mind. So who else is excited about this??
"Race is only an issue to people who make it an issue"..
by AnakinsDiapers
Apr 18th, 2008
08:05:26 PM
I'll remember i'm making race an issue when the cop asks me why i'm in a predominantly white neighborhood at night (cause of course i must be up to no good), or that woman grabs her purse and switchs it to the shoulder opposite me. Sometimes..hell, most of the time the issue of race is forced upon people who don't have a problem with race themselves. The addage "it takes two to tango" is not true where reacism is involved....That being said, Black Panther on BET bodes ill indeed.
Now Black Panther on Adult Swim...
by AnakinsDiapers
Apr 18th, 2008
08:08:31 PM
...would make my taint tingle.
i am a human being
by j2talk
Apr 18th, 2008
08:17:48 PM
Well race will be an issue to everyone unless
by blindambition238
Apr 18th, 2008
08:23:10 PM
... every single person in the world stops considering it. You might be open minded enough to not see race in those terms but you're still affected by it, whether you know it or not, by everyone else in the world who use it as a characteristic to define who you are.
Also...
by blindambition238
Apr 18th, 2008
08:24:00 PM
How did the Gijoe thread die all of a sudden? Isnt it still early evening in the States?
You're right, j2, it doesn't matter if you're white.
by samsquanch
Apr 18th, 2008
08:30:21 PM
If you weren't white, however, it would matter, a great deal. It's sweet but still ignorant to say that race doesn't matter.

by j2talk
Apr 18th, 2008
08:30:25 PM
blindambition you have a point, but in places like this forum it DOESNT need to be...here you can actually be judged "by the content of your character" and not the color of your skin or gender
J2talk
by blindambition238
Apr 18th, 2008
08:37:45 PM
I think most of the people here who were discussing "race" were speaking about it in terms of the real world. Obviously here it doesn't and usually isn't an issue since unless someone announces it, we don't have a clue about anyones race. Though I usually just assume everyone here looks like Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons.
And when i say it isn't an issue 'here'
by blindambition238
Apr 18th, 2008
08:40:09 PM
I mean in the way we interact with and appraise each other on the forums. Race can obviously be an issue in a topical sense.

by j2talk
Apr 18th, 2008
08:54:49 PM
but the point is if it isn't an issue here why should it be anywhere else.....apply for school they ask raceand gender...go to work they want to know the same things why? and more importantly why do people answer as anything but human or American? stop asking, stop answering and it BEGINS the process of ending racism by continuing to sperate our selves by race ethnicity WE perpetuate the problem
but j2
by samsquanch
Apr 18th, 2008
09:06:01 PM
Your idea completely denies that anyone might feel a sense of pride in their ethnicity, or that it might be a component of their identity, that it might be a way of defining their history, their culture, and their community. Heritage is more than race, but for many, many people, especially people who find themselves in the minority, race plays a big role in how they understand themselves and their place in the world. There's nothing wrong with that. America is a melting pot, where anyone can go and become an American, but simply becoming an American does not annihilate where you come from, or what language you speak, or what religion you practice. In the same way you can't deny race because some people think it's an inconvenience. The fact is, j2, that there will never be a time when we will just call it the 'human' race, because that human race will still have a color. Other people have sought the kind of racial harmony and peace that you seek, but they chose different ways of going about it. I know you're a much nicer person that they were, but your opinions are set in the same ignorance, and set off the same alarm bells.
BET is a lie!!!
by Pixeldriver
Apr 18th, 2008
09:16:40 PM
It's not Black, it's owned by Viacom. It's not Entertainment as five minutes of watching can attest to. Okay, so it's Television. One out of three ain't too bad!
Classic character.
by TomBodet
Apr 18th, 2008
09:19:22 PM
The comics from the 70's I enjoyed too. I hope this is a good one.
I believe there was the odd giant robot
by samsquanch
Apr 18th, 2008
09:22:16 PM
or two in the comics as well, Tom. So...
Shouldn't it be called NET
by dogphart3000
Apr 18th, 2008
10:32:25 PM
You know
dogphart3000
by Stevie Grant
Apr 18th, 2008
10:53:37 PM
Oh no you didn't!!! (Aaron McGruder's MLK episode said all that needs to be said about BET)
"New Entertainment Television?"
by samsquanch
Apr 18th, 2008
10:57:39 PM
Next Entertainment Television?

Nightly Entertainment Television?

Nasty Entertainment Television?

Necessary Entertainment Television?

Nefarious Entertainment Television?

Nice Entertainment Television?

Nocturnal Entertainment Television?

Notorious Entertainment Television?

Now Entertainment Television?

Nuclear Entertainment Television?

OH! I get it! You're an asshole!

Are you a victim? To what extent is your shitty life someone el
by brobdingnag
Apr 19th, 2008
12:09:46 AM
There is a very structured victim hierarchy to be followed. It is organized by classes first, then by types, in order of value from most valuable (i.e. biggest victim) to least as follows: 1)Race: a)Middle Eastern b)Hispanic c)Black d)Native American e)Asian f)Caucasian 2)Sexual Orientation a)Pedophile b)Homosexual c)Bisexual d)Heterosexual 2)Financial Status a)Homeless Poor b)Poor c)Middle Class d)Liberal Wealthy e)Wealthy 3)Religion a)Atheism b)Islam c)Wiccan/Pagan/Modern Cults d)agnosticism e)Judaism f)Catholicism g)Evangelical Christianity 4)Nationality a)Any country at war with the US b)Any country who opposes the US c)Any country that is not the US or an ally of the US d)Blue States e)The US as a whole 5)Gender a)Trans-Gendered b)Female c)Male This is a living hierarchy as the value of your particular victim statuses can shift depending on the whims of the media and the indignation industry. You have to strike while the iron is hot and before some new trendy group of victims horns in on your action.
"Always BET on Black (Panther)!"
by Jack Colby
Apr 19th, 2008
03:10:34 AM
samsquanch
by sweeneydave
Apr 19th, 2008
03:36:21 AM
"Only the dominant culture has the luxury to be completely unaware that they ARE the dominant culture." I've never heard someone sum up our faults so perfectly. I've been trying to crack the problem of our racial walls for years. So often I've felt that racism (or at the very least prejudice) is a much smaller issue these days, and things like "Black History Month" just remind us all that the walls are still there. I now realize that I've been thinking that way because I'm in the freaking dominant culture. It's not about about trying to make up for what my grandfather's grandfather did. But rather shutting up the dominant cultures' mouth for one minute so someone else can get a word in. Pardon my rant, but it's not everyday that I get enlightenment from a talkback. Thanks samsquanch.
blindambition238
by Grammaton Cleric Binks
Apr 19th, 2008
07:54:59 AM
You forgot about him in Love Actually (small part), and Children of Men. The guy's a great actor.
I'd Rather See Luke Cage and Iron Fist Animated
by LaserPants
Apr 19th, 2008
08:31:02 AM
Get the guys who did Afro Samurai on it, stat! Black Panther could be cool, tho. I just like the street dudes better than the smarty pants science guy hero. Black Panther is essentially an African Reed Richards.
but samsquanch
by j2talk
Apr 19th, 2008
08:32:15 AM
you post puts forth a valid point, and i am all for having pride in ones backround,religion,ethnicity- the issue begins when you put that first-ie a AFRICAN American not an AMERICAN of African decent...when you look at the history of this county most groups who came here merged with the population, bringing element of there culture into the fold, not trying to keep themselves seperate.....IE we dont have people calling themself Whelsh Americans ...via that language and culture, that brings out feelings of us versus them on both sides and that is not good for anybody

by j2talk
Apr 19th, 2008
08:33:36 AM
simply put make your Culture part of you and not your whole being....
I Like How You Said "Liberal Wealthy" and Then "Wealthy"
by LaserPants
Apr 19th, 2008
08:36:07 AM
Its all the fault of the liberals! And their media! Oh, but wait, aren't all the major multinational media conglomerates owned and run by Ultra Wealthy Conservatives?! Well then! That sorta torpedoes that whole meme, doesn't it?

To whit: THERE IS NO LIBERAL MEDIA. Certainly there is no liberal media conspiracy to make you all homosexual socialists (*gasp!*). The media being only as "liberal" as the conservative billionaires who own and run it. And pwned. Good night!
Well I'll be watching
by BrandLoyalist
Apr 19th, 2008
08:40:58 AM
Captain America, Black Panther, and other two-fisted types never did much for me, but then again I didn't give a damn about Batman until the 90s cartoons came along. And, hey: crossovers, villains from the Marvel Universe... there you go, can't be bad.
Wanna bet Phil Lamarr voices this?
by ZeroCorpse
Apr 19th, 2008
09:04:34 AM
I mean, he plays EVERY black character in animation these days...
Is there any doubt
by Pariah74
Apr 19th, 2008
11:05:15 AM
That this will be the gun toting "urban" version of the character? Lame. BET is an awful channel.
He'll probably fight
by Pariah74
Apr 19th, 2008
11:07:06 AM
The White Tiger
Actually
by brobdingnag
Apr 19th, 2008
11:09:19 AM
Actually
by brobdingnag
Apr 19th, 2008
11:26:10 AM
I never said anything about a liberal media. I mentioned the media. There are liberally biased outlets and conservatively biased outlets. Now, the liberally biased outlets outnumber the conservative by about 5 to 1. This is due to the fact that according to polls of journalists and others in that industry, roughly 85% define themselves as progressive or liberal. We are talking about the decision makers here, not the owners. Most major news outlets are owned by corporations not single individuals. Even if you could prove that the individuals on the boards of these corporations are evil neocons, it is laughable to state that they have anything to do with the content of the daily news. It is producers and editors (pulled from that 85%) that make the content decisions for most news outlets. I am perfectly happy to cop to the conservative bias of outlets like Drudge, Limbaugh and Fox news (of course Drudge and Limbaugh doesn't try to pass himself off as unbiased), I sense however that you would be unwilling to cop the liberal biases of CNN, MSNBC, CBS, ABC, The New York Times, PBS, or Public Radio. In any event, why get mad at me for simply pointing out the victim structure? I am an agnostic with "conservative" objectivist leanings, and I vote independent not republican OR Democratic. In fact I will be voting for Obama this go round and I voted for Bush last time. I have many gay and lesbian friends, I support abortion rights and drug legalization. I also support a strong military, as well as gun and property rights and having a totally free unregulated free market. The bottom line on this discussion about race is that anyone who is a minority and under 30 years old simply has no understanding of what true racism is and are simply seeking to make victims of themselves because it is easier than taking responsibility for your own actions and life.
Coming Soon... The Malcom X-Men
by bswise
Apr 19th, 2008
11:28:35 AM
'nuff said.
Dominant culture?
by severianx1
Apr 19th, 2008
12:29:32 PM
You dipsticks talking about "dominant culture" are cracking me up. I think you must mean dominant race. What exactly is the cultural difference between two people born in the same region of America, whose only difference is one has black skin and the other white?
Stalkeye
by severianx1
Apr 19th, 2008
12:45:37 PM
How do you figure Black Panther is stronger than Captain America? Captain America took a formula which gave him maximum human strengh, whereas Black Panther is just a normal guy who works out a lot, kind of like Daredevil or Batman. Right?
dominant culture
by sweeneydave
Apr 19th, 2008
12:59:51 PM
Dominant culture is the wrong term. I was referring to whatever is basically dominant - be it race, sex, religion, and whatnot. It's just so weird that women have to fight so hard to have equality when there's just as much of them as there are of guys. But for some reason it's true. This shows that it's not just a minority vs majority issue but (for lack of a better term) a dominant culture issue.
yo rocsi its WILD OUT WEDNEDAY!!!
by deliciouscowbell
Apr 19th, 2008
01:28:07 PM
yo its really stupid dumb retarded today on 106th and park aint that right rocsi! we got chris brown at number one for the 158th day in a row lets get it POPPIN!!!!!
isnt it ironic
by deliciouscowbell
Apr 19th, 2008
01:28:53 PM
that theres a huge picture of crash right below the bet article.
THE BANNED BOONDOCKS EP.
by deliciouscowbell
Apr 19th, 2008
01:31:58 PM
are too fuckin funny.
J2 talk
by Pixeldriver
Apr 19th, 2008
02:21:11 PM
Italian-Americans, Irish-Americans, German-Americans... want me to go on?
severianx1
by Pixeldriver
Apr 19th, 2008
02:28:14 PM
Black Panther went through some sort of ritual with herbs and stuff (whatever) that gave him super-soldier like powers. Holistic Super Soldier? He's also using Wakandan technology that no one's seen fit to give to Cap. and yeah you're dead on. We all share the American culture. I'm a Chicago South Sider with more in common with a kid from Nebraska than I do with a kid from Africa.
But American culture isn't the only culture
by samsquanch
Apr 19th, 2008
03:00:17 PM
that defines you. The fact that you make a point of defining yourself as a 'Chicago South Sider' points to a distinction- two, actually, even within the city you feel compelled to distinguish which end of town you come from.

Sweenydave is correct, 'dominant culture' as a phrase has all kinds of problems with it, not the least of which is the amorphous semantic meaning of 'culture', and the sort of aggressive implication of 'dominant'.

I'm just saying there's nothing wrong with acknowledging the differences.

"Always bet on black!"
by theredtoad
Apr 19th, 2008
03:26:18 PM
-Sir Wesley Snipes
Cultcha
by mulberry
Apr 19th, 2008
03:27:55 PM
If we're going to talk about cultural issues surrounding this cartoon, probably the most interesting thing to look for will be how noticeably African he is portrayed, as opposed to Afro-American (or even Americanised African). My Afro-Caribbean friends in London often comment about how complex (euphemism if ever I heard it) their cultural relationship to continental Africans in London is. Not sure if BET is interested in that sort of thing, or if they just are interested having a generic black superhero. Discuss.
Shows how some of you know of Black Panther
by Stalkeye
Apr 19th, 2008
03:29:40 PM
A Daredevil ripoff? He works out a lot like Daredevil and Batman? OMMFG!However Laserpants is correct, T'challa is an African Reed Richards and that is a compliment in itself.

Anyway I prefered the BP from that 90's anmated FF episode way over the Panther in Ultimate avengers 2, who looked more like a "Catman".

To answer your question:
by samsquanch
Apr 19th, 2008
03:51:35 PM
"What exactly is the cultural difference between two people born in the same region of America, whose only difference is one has black skin and the other white?"

This is a deep question, one that has had America at odds with itself since 1776. http://tinyurl.com/5scr5j

Martin Luther King Jr. said that there shouldn't be any other way to judge a man (or, we can amend, women either) except by the content of his character. We can all agree on that, I'm sure. Of course, this was a radical idea at the time, since Slavery, America had been living with Segregation, it was the law of the land, and King's ideas were seen as straight up sedition by the establishment. Since the Cilvil Rights Movement, there has been a lot of debate over just how much a step forward it was for race relations, with some people theorizing that: ..."liberalism had as its first and all-consuming goal the expiation of American guilt rather than the careful development of true equality between the races." http://tinyurl.com/5k6uhz

In our day, we're still trying to figure out why racism is still here, since the Civil Rights Movement happened before most of us were born, and we're all taught that it worked (right??) why is there still such thing as racism? http://tinyurl.com/6x6xpr Some people, like j2talk, feel obliged to blind themselves, stick their fingers in their ears and declare themselves 'colorblind', completely ignoring that racial distinctions could potentially be a positive aspect of American culture, something that makes America stronger, instead of weaker, while others reject the implicit accusation of being labeled the 'dominant culture', and reject whatever point, no matter how rational and neutral, throwing the baby out with the bathwater for their righteous indignation.

Race is a component of culture. So is history, community, religion, language, music, art, dialect, etc. All of these things add up to culture. Culture is organic, it grows, adapts, changes. The Black American experience is arguably a different 'culture' than it was even 30 years ago. Is it better? Some would argue yes, others no. Is America more racist or less since Slavery? Definitely. Since Segregation? Sure. Since the seventies? That's arguable. Certainly, it's become a component of American Culture that it's not such an odd thing to see a successful African American anywhere on the landscape, but racism is more complicated, subtle and insidious than a Klan member chasing a negro with a rope in one hand and a torch in the other. After he had been released from prison in 1990, Nelson Mandela said he would rather live in South Africa under apartheid than in America, since at least in South Africa you can see the racism on everyone's face, but in America it's hidden under masks. Mandela has since said that he loves the idea of America, calls Americans 'a proud people', but you have to admit, there's a point there.

On a philosophical level: Is there a difference between black and white Americans?

Sure. People are complicated. Any society is more than the sum of its laws, the written history, and the smiling face we show the rest of the world. There is still racism here.

On a legal level: There is hardly any institutional racism left in America, if you don't count that about 10.4% of the entire African-American male population in the United States aged 25 to 29 was incarcerated, by far the largest racial or ethnic group—by comparison, 2.4% of Hispanic men and 1.2% of white men in that same age group were incarcerated. According to a report by the Justice Policy Institute in 2002, the number of black men in prison has grown to five times the rate it was twenty years ago. Today, more African-American men are in jail than in college. In 2000 there were 791,600 black men in prison and 603,032 enrolled in college. In 1980, there were 143,000 black men in prison and 463,700 enrolled in college.If you don't think this is an aspect of cultural racism, I'd like to know what other explanation you might have. At the very least, it points to a cultural difference.

On a personal level: In the realm of academic cultural theory the issue of race in America is considered to be a national passtime, Americans are obsessed with discussing it, arguing it, and generally just trying to wrap their heads around it. This long-winded post of mine has been a drop in the ocean compared with what goes on every day all over the country, so, to wrap up, asking the question "what is the difference" is actually one of the most loaded questions you can ask in contemporary American society. Does that answer your question?

brobdingnag
by samsquanch
Apr 19th, 2008
03:59:34 PM
I read your last post with interest, I identify with you on most points, except for your last statement. I think you would find "A Dream Deferred" by Shelby Steele a very interesting read. I posted a link to it in my last post, he's the one who wrote: "liberalism had as its first and all-consuming goal the expiation of American guilt rather than the careful development of true equality between the races."

http://tinyurl.com/5k6uhz

check it out.

The problem
by Pariah74
Apr 19th, 2008
04:02:38 PM
America has become hyphenated.
Nobody wants to be assimilated into American culture anymore, even tho a good mixing of cultures is what brought us great things like Christmas trees, trick or treating, stocking stuffers, picnics, and bonfires.
America doesn't need more languages, hyphens, or isolated peoples...what we need is a sharing of cultures.
Amen, Pariah74,
by samsquanch
Apr 19th, 2008
04:13:50 PM
As long as we stay true to why America exists in the first place. "give us your poor, your downtrodden, your huddled masses..."

America is big and complicated enough to be more than one thing at the same time.

Thanks Pixeldriver
by severianx1
Apr 19th, 2008
04:52:49 PM
I did not know that, I thought he got his abilities the old fashioned way like Batman and Daredevil. "Holistic Super Soldier", eh? I like that. Perhaps an interesting storyline for Marvel to persue. Cap's super-soldier formula starts messing him up because it's chemical based, but Black Panther is fine because he used herbs. Mainstream vs. alternative medicine.
How can anybody compare T'Challa to Reed Richards?
by Pops Freshemeyer
Apr 19th, 2008
04:55:12 PM
One is the king of an African nation, while the other is the most boring superhero ever written. Seriously, back in grade school I would've actually done my homework before reading an issue of Fantastic Four.
Well pops when it comes to comparing the two..
by Stalkeye
Apr 19th, 2008
05:01:15 PM
I'm speaking in terms of scientifc rivalry. T'challa is as much as a prodigy as Richards,Stark and Dr.Doom. Yet when it comes to agility he's up there with Cap,Spidey and the like. nd yes Reed can be a dullard.

One of the best ways to experience BP would be playing Ultimate Alliance. One of the best Marvel videogames..ever!

Got it.
by Pops Freshemeyer
Apr 19th, 2008
05:09:43 PM
So I take it that's why Storm married him, because she's all into smart inventor types?
samsquanch
by Stevie Grant
Apr 19th, 2008
07:20:26 PM
you should get into topics more often, it makes for good reading.
In related news
by punto
Apr 19th, 2008
07:48:03 PM
The "White Pride Channel" is showing Captain America! White Pride!!!
Cheers, Stevie.
by samsquanch
Apr 19th, 2008
07:48:37 PM
Even though I think I may have murdered this talkback to make my point.
Punto
by samsquanch
Apr 19th, 2008
07:49:46 PM
White pride channel... do you mean the news?
So will Nightcrawler be on Blue Entertainment Television?
by ZeroCorpse
Apr 19th, 2008
07:56:40 PM
With guest appearances by The Beast, Mystique, and the token white guy, Iceman.
He's rarely called "Black Panther" in the comics.
by ZeroCorpse
Apr 19th, 2008
07:58:47 PM
Most of the time, they just call him T'Challa.
When Obama becomes President...
by ZeroCorpse
Apr 19th, 2008
08:16:50 PM
Will people finally stop assuming the majority of Americans are racist, and recognize that the truly racist people are now in the minority?

There's a difference between self-segregation and racism. One is an extension of cultural differences, and the other is an expression of fear and hatred due to skin color and xenophobia.

I live in a multiracial community. I'm one of the few white people here. Most of my neighbors are middle eastern, Russian, Indian, far-east Asian, or Black. Each group maintains their own little groups, and enforces this self-segregation by speaking their own dialect, dressing their own way, and talking about things of interest to their culture and heritage... But none of us hates the other. Sure, I get mad when the Arabic girls play their AWFUL fucking "lalalala" music in the parking lot, but I don't hate them or want to hurt them for their heritage or music or skin color. The Black people here don't seem to hate me. I've dated people of all backgrounds and colors. I'd say that in my community, there's not much racism to be found.

The only time I hear cries of racism these days is when someone says something stupid and they don't understand why it's offensive to someone else. I'm part Native American, and I'm offended by Chief Wahoo and the Redskins, but I don't see anything in public that is as ugly and racist as that.

Sure, Don Imus can say "nappy headed hos" and get sacked for it. But a whole stadium full of people can do a motherfucking "tomahawk chop" while a "red nigger" character dances around the field, and THAT isn't racism?

YES, things are much better than they were in the 1970s. Back then, I would have been afraid to take the risk and cross racial lines to date someone. These days it's no big deal, except with the old people. Back in the 70s, it was OUTRAGEOUS to see mixed race couples on TV. It was almost scandalous when the Jeffersons had an interracial couple as neighbors, and it was a source of comedy. These days, Tom & Helen wouldn't seem out of place or like a joke at all.

Oh, yeah, there are wacko racist groups on all sides. But you know what? They're the extremists and the fringe. They don't represent the majority by any means...

Just look at Obama's poll numbers. He got more votes than the southern white man when he was in the south! That he is the frontrunner in a Presidential primary is a HUGE indicator that MOST people are no longer racist-- Not in the way we once defined it, anyway.

Recognizing cultural differences is NOT THE SAME as racism. Black women have wide nostrils, big lips and big butts, and I LOVE THEM FOR IT! It's not any more racist to point out their physical tendencies than it is for them to point out that white boys have no ass, or Japanese women sound like squealing children during sex. THESE THINGS ARE GENERALLY TRUE.

RACISM is when you HATE people for their differences. Most white people don't hate Black people for their cultural and physical differences; They're just a little confused by them. When you don't live in a particular culture, a foreign one can be hard to grasp.

But failure to grasp it is not hatred. It's not racism. I've seen racism-- Back in the 70s and early 80s-- and it's ugly, horrible, and nothing like what people experience today when they're playing the racism card.

Will Jesse "The Body" Ventura
by jimbojones123
Apr 19th, 2008
08:49:40 PM
Play White Tiger?
Zerocorpse
by Stevie Grant
Apr 19th, 2008
09:17:36 PM
it's much simpler than that: white people hate the ghetto, pure and simple. You act ghetto, non-ghetto American will have two and a half strikes against you, otherwise, you have a blank slate.
Correction
by Stevie Grant
Apr 19th, 2008
09:18:05 PM
"non-ghetto Americans"
That's not exactly true unless...
by Pariah74
Apr 19th, 2008
09:37:06 PM
you are using "white" figuratively. There are plenty of white people from the ghetto.
Like I said, my Irish ancestors used to be the ones filling up the "ghettos."
Or at least the poor neighborhoods since nobody in America lives in a true ghetto.
Should read...
by Pariah74
Apr 19th, 2008
09:37:47 PM
True if you are using white figuratively. Sorry.
Pariah74
by Stevie Grant
Apr 19th, 2008
09:46:36 PM
You're right. I was using "white" figuratively in the sense that previous posts have used it to mean "the man," or the "mainstream." I should have been clearer about that. But, still, in almost all my experiences, the vast majority of anti-black sentiment I've come across isn't actually anti-black, but only anti-ghetto. Regardless of race (not counting white, suburban teenagers), it seems all non-ghetto Americans are disgusted with the ghetto.
also,
by Stevie Grant
Apr 19th, 2008
09:53:48 PM
I was using "ghetto" in the American sense. Not the actual non-Western ghetto sense (ie, brimstone and fire level of hellishness).
i hope
by lordnigzor
Apr 19th, 2008
10:53:11 PM
i hope they use a different style of animation then they used for the avengers,iron man and doc strange movies.cuz b.p. looked fucking wack in the avengers second flick.
samsquanch -- At the end of the day...
by Pixeldriver
Apr 20th, 2008
01:19:22 AM
I am an American. Anyone who has stepped five feet out of the country in any direction has all of those distinctions wiped away and we all become one. Anyone who can't deal with that is living in a fantasy.
I've always hated when people say...
by versatol
Apr 20th, 2008
02:35:18 AM
BET is racist because there is no WET (White Entertainment TV). Wake the eff up! Every other channel is WET! BET (though a shitty channel) was created in RESPONSE to black exclusion from television. Have one black guy in every 2 out of every 5 sitcoms and dramas doesn't make mean television is diverse. Hell, you never see Asians or Middle Eastern people at all on TV though they make up a HUGE chunk of our population. A race-based channel is not racist-- it's making up for racism. Now let's all just hold hands, sing songs, and eat pudding under the American flag.
LMFAO: Zerocorpse
by Stalkeye
Apr 20th, 2008
04:34:19 AM
IS that true that japanese women sound like squelling children while having sex? WTF is up with that, other than form what i have heard than many of the Japanese men have a thing for young girls.(i.e. pre-teens)Ouch!

Never understood those panty vending machines over at the land of the rising sun.That aside good post.

versatol
by Pariah74
Apr 20th, 2008
02:27:37 PM
BET is racist because it reinforces stereotypes...mainly the stereotypes of its viewers. The cheap con religious programming doesn't make up for the misogynistic gangsta rap rump shaking that goes on the rest of the day.
In a lot oe people's opinion it only exacerbates it.

BET should be named NET.

I have no doubt that Black Panther will be a gun toting, bling wearing thug. It wouldn't even shock me to see it called Black Pantha. All of the villains will be white corporate suit and tie types that are just keeping the pimpin' gangstaz down.
Just another Steppen Fetchit on a modern day Minstrel Show. They get Flava Flav to do his voice.
Oh dear. Another AICN sponsered Pity Party
by Yeti
Apr 20th, 2008
05:43:05 PM
And me without my hat.
pariah
by Larry Sellers
Apr 20th, 2008
07:54:10 PM
It was a comic book, dummy. I seriously doubt they'll change BP (whose costume resembles the eponymous cat)into a "gun toting, bling wearing thug". Actually that description does remind me of that Cage character...anywho, I'm sure your silly rant had more racist stereotyping than what you believe BET broadcasts in a day.
Uh Larry...
by Pariah74
Apr 20th, 2008
08:35:08 PM
psst. They already have given Black Panther dual pistols.
And if you think I stereotyped anyone, you are a dolt. BET displays those stereotypes all day long in their music videos. Why do you think they have been criticized by Spike Lee, Chuck D, George Curry and others?
Go on and try to call me racist. You'll lose that one, moron, because its really clear that you have no idea what has happened to Black Panther, and you have probably never watched more than an hour of BET.
You don't know squat.
It's not out of the realm of possibility that BET would take WHAT HAS ALREADY BEEN DONE to Black Panther and take one small step farther.
Dumbass.
If I wanted to call you a racist
by Larry Sellers
Apr 21st, 2008
08:01:05 AM
I would have. You're clearly not. If anything I'd say you might be black but who knows/cares. There are a lot of characters with dual pistols. Many are hardly bling wearing thugs. I could really care less who BET's been criticized by. If there isn't one stereotype, there will be another. Where are you getting this information about what BET's done to BP? He was still pretty classy when he was in civil war. Unless there's something out besides that Variety article (which has very little information aside from there being a BP series in production,), you're basing your argument on assumptions. Sure it's not a complete impossibility for BET to change a character to identify with its audience. Is it not also possible that there may be some who are already familiar with BP might be offended?
Like I said
by Pariah74
Apr 21st, 2008
08:04:29 AM
You don't know squat if you have never seen Black Panther wielding dual pistols. BET didn't do it.
So admit you're running off at the mouth for no reason other than pride and sit back down. You don't know anything about Black Panther and you don't know anything about BET. Go comment on a Michael Bay thread.
Wow I know NOTHING about Black Panther
by Larry Sellers
Apr 21st, 2008
05:15:28 PM
Except that he doesn't use two guns. The POINT of my earlier post was that there are plenty of characters that use two guns. You're only offended because he's black and wielding a firearm? So, everyone BUT black comic book/movie/whatever characters can have two guns, otherwise it's perpetuating a negative stereotype? That'd be what's called reverse stereotyping. Believe me, I take no pride in arguing with someone over the internet, but I'm trying to draw a clear position from what you're saying. You just seem pissed off that a black network is going to add BP to its programming when you have no information as to how they'd change the character, if at all. So you're basically getting all worked up about something that doesn't even exist. By the way, I only comment on Stephen Sommers threads. Thanks.
You have completely missed the point,
by Pariah74
Apr 22nd, 2008
12:33:04 AM
I said that it is possible...nay likely that BET will go with the version of Black Panther that you are ignorant of.
I believe they will also take him to the next level of thuggishness.
I believe that next level isn't a far step...that is from the low levels I have seen Black Panther's character taken.
I believe all of this and it is my opinion. In no way was it angry or uneducated.
Just because you have never seen Black panther with gold on his costume or wielding two pistols doesn't mean he hasn't.

Done with you.
Here
by Pariah74
Apr 22nd, 2008
12:52:09 AM
http://tinyurl.com/4xkeyp This is what I believe will be on BET.
YEESH! Now I'm done with you.







dumbass
You want to take my Kingdom? OH HELL NO!
by chien_sale
Apr 23rd, 2008
07:16:39 AM
I think BET should put some getto cash together and make a tv series about the Black Panther movement instead. That would be Sweet Christmas!
Panther notes
by Dazzler69
Apr 23rd, 2008
07:11:26 PM
He has a "in case Galactus attacks" file.

He could make an "Iron man" type of suit for himself but does not.

He joined the Avengers to spy on them.

He has wives in training.

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