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Glorious First
by Sledgeh101
Apr 16th, 2008
07:03:21 AM
Heh - some of the entries are really inspired. I liked the ones for Wolverine and Black Cat. Very good stuff!
Daredevil without his radar sense....
by blindambition238
Apr 16th, 2008
07:03:24 AM
Should be a good one. Reminds me of those toyfare mego theater.
As for Ian Churchill...
by blindambition238
Apr 16th, 2008
07:04:17 AM
ewww
Not too much of interest this week
by SpiderHarshaw
Apr 16th, 2008
07:18:23 AM
Suburban Glamour was beautiful, but the story didn't do much for me
Protest
by peppersgc
Apr 16th, 2008
07:23:11 AM
I want to protest something! I'll figure out what later. http://www.netdisaster.com/go. php?mode=manif&sound=on&url=ht tp://www.aintitcool.com/
Protest
by peppersgc
Apr 16th, 2008
07:24:30 AM
I want to protest something! I'll figure out what later. http://tinyurl.com/5hblqg
Winick
by Laserhead
Apr 16th, 2008
07:29:27 AM
Do you guys remember how creepy he was on the Real World? He was manipulative, ultra-PC, and always trying to worm his way in with one of the girls by being ridiculously sensitive; the kind of guy that pretends to just be a girl's friend until she gets drunk, and then he tries to make out with her. That asian chick he ended up with always seemed a little appalled by him.
So who's deciding these write-ups for the fight
by Laserhead
Apr 16th, 2008
07:45:46 AM
are 'the best'? A rave dance-off for the big kung-fu fight, and Moon Knight flashing a 1-800 number to beat Jason Todd? These are more like lame jokes than actual, well-written fights.
Wolverine versus Conan
by O_Goncho
Apr 16th, 2008
08:10:36 AM
I lol'd. Shame about how dissatisfied the Serenity reviews seem to be, although the cover art is quite undeniably shit.
I bought an issue of Wizard
by rev_skarekroe
Apr 16th, 2008
08:20:29 AM
I do it once every year or so. This time, I was hooked by the Tim Roth and Robert Downey Jr. interviews. Those were good, though I can't imagine what the actors must be thinking sitting through such phenomenally nerdy QA sessions. The rest of the mag was just as dumb as I remember it being, except for the excerpt from Mark Evanair's biography of Jack Kirby. That looks like something I'll want to read in its entirety.
Black Widow vs. Huntress
by Stefan McTierney
Apr 16th, 2008
08:25:51 AM
The winner of that fight would be the spectators.
why not Deathstroke vs
by spidercoz
Apr 16th, 2008
08:53:59 AM
Deadpool? Slade Wilson vs Wade Wilson? Both mercs with stupid costumes and masks, brothers separated at birth why not. Would be epic I tells ya. There can be only one!
Uhm, the rules with Daredevil
by BizarroJerry
Apr 16th, 2008
08:54:27 AM
I don't know what that means. No radar sense. Isn't his radar sense just super-attuned hearing? So, what he can only hear like a normal person? Shouldn't Snake-Eyes have an easy time of it?
O_Gonch_Serenity
by optimous_douche
Apr 16th, 2008
08:56:04 AM
O Gonch if you love the Serenity universe get this book.

If you know nothing about Serenity, this is sooooooo not the entry point.

I didn't hate it, just didn't love it as much as the first issue.

GA/BC #7
by van_line
Apr 16th, 2008
09:06:00 AM
so if you were a victim of torture, that was so bad that you lost your superpowers for years would you really use torture in your bag of tricks??
SERENITY: Better Days
by ShiftyEyedDog2
Apr 16th, 2008
09:26:16 AM
This is the very first time I've ever read an AICN comics article, and it's simply because Serenity was in the headline. I can't agree more on that horrid cover art - it makes me lose all interest in checking out the comic series at all.

I do have one problem with the review: he disparages Back to the Future II. I LOVE BTTF2!! If you have to bash one of them, part 3 is the one you should aim at.
BizarroJerry
by Stefan McTierney
Apr 16th, 2008
09:29:22 AM
There was a Frank Miller story arc where Daredevil loses his radar. With all his super senses intact, he could still mostly function (and I think he manages to take out the Hand's minion types), but he has to find his way to Stick to figure out what's gone wrong. At least in Miller's stuff, the radar sense is entirely martial arts, Daredevil's super senses presumably just amplify it.
van_line
by rock-me Amodeo
Apr 16th, 2008
09:40:40 AM
Wow. Brilliant point. That did not occur to me, particularly a humiliating interrogation.

Or one could argue that when she put it behind her, she put it behind her. Still, excellent point.
Conan vs Wolvernine
by Redmantle
Apr 16th, 2008
09:40:57 AM
I submitted one for this tournament, but it wasn't chosen. I gotta say though, the one chosen was cleverer than mine. (My submission was more traditional fisticuffs.) Kudos! Pretty funny stuff.
thanks for the Dragon Head reviews
by fried samurai
Apr 16th, 2008
09:51:23 AM
It was the review in this column of the first volume that made me pick up this series.While there are a ton of places that review manga its always great to get a superheroes guy's perspective.If your looking for another really good series might I suggest Berserk or Eden.Both are well written :)
kamandi: countdown special # 1
by steverodgers
Apr 16th, 2008
10:09:12 AM
I do not know what is happening with countdown, but I do know I love kamandi. So I bought this comic. The comic shop I go to bags and boards all their comics, which although slightly irritating doesn’t really bother me as I usually know what I want before I head in. now i am on a limited comics budget these days because diapers aint free. kamandi cost five dollars – five dollars I had convinced myself was money well spent. i get home, work through the other books and finally get to kamanidi. i have a bowl of cool-ranch doritos and a tall pbr and am ready to enter geek heaven. the first story is a kirby reprint, which i have now in a couple of forms, but whatever that makes sense, to add that – you know – for the kids. i flip to the middle of the book… more kirby. i flip to the cover – i don’t see kirby’s name anywhere or anyone’s name really… now i get a real bad feeling that i’ve been hoodwinked – i flip to the end of the book –more awesome kirbyness - 63 pages or so of reprints that I already have. Is this a case of buyer beware or has dc cheated me? i’m really pissed. there is nothing on the cover that would indicate a pile of reprints. I am tempted to hunt down the DC execs at comic-con this weekend and yell “I want my 5 dollars back!!” has anyone ever done that? demanded cash back at a convention? anyway… boring fucking story but i am just wicked irritated.
RE: Steverodgers
by Prof_Ender
Apr 16th, 2008
10:42:49 AM
You, I'm afraid, fell into the same trap I did. A few months ago, DC released NEW GODS: COUNTDOWN SPECIAL. And what was that? A five-dollar reprint of 3 Kirby-drawn NEW GODS stories...just like this KAMANDI book.
That sucks about being hoodwinked
by krushjudgement
Apr 16th, 2008
10:52:29 AM
But for guys like me who don't have those issues already, it was a lot of fun. Kirby rules!
steverodgers - this is WAY off topic...
by rock-me Amodeo
Apr 16th, 2008
10:54:30 AM
...but it could save you $500 to a $1000 dollars, so I will endure the possible derision of others for the chance to put some money in your pocket.

Next baby, suggest to your wife that she have a "diapers-and-wipes" shower. Everyone brings diapers and wipes instead of other baby crap. You can even go so far as to say, "A-E, bring 1's. F-H, bring 2's" and such.

No lie, for our second kid, we didn't buy diapers until about the seventh month, and when I added up the retail value, we had over $900 worth of diapers given to us, for free.

I mean, how many onesies does a baby need? Plus, you can spend some of the money on comics that don't SUCK! Like massive reprint books, for example.
rock-me Amodeo
by steverodgers
Apr 16th, 2008
11:01:20 AM
thank you. that is a damn good idea. consider it done. 900 dollars buys a lot of comics.
Prof_Ender
by steverodgers
Apr 16th, 2008
11:03:55 AM
i will make sure to give dan dido an extra throttle for you when i am thrashing him at the javits center this weekend.
krushjudgement
by steverodgers
Apr 16th, 2008
11:05:44 AM
kamandi is full-on kirby goodness. collect them all!
Way to go, Nec!
by buffywrestling
Apr 16th, 2008
11:22:54 AM
Entirely clever. Well done, sir!
Touche Shifty
by optimous_douche
Apr 16th, 2008
11:29:11 AM
I agree, but to make my story work and stick with the Jan Brady analogy I had to go after BTTFII.
i lurve this column
by Calico Pete
Apr 16th, 2008
12:17:25 PM
still one of the best written on aicn, and the tournament entries (and even contestant descriptions) are fitting in nicely with the excellent reviews. rock on amodeo, et al!
Judd Winick is the new Devin Grayson
by SpyGuy
Apr 16th, 2008
12:33:54 PM
Neither one is capable of telling a decent story involving the Titans.
Optimus Douche
by O_Goncho
Apr 16th, 2008
12:38:24 PM
Thanks for the warning but I'm as avid (read: obsessive) a Browncoat as they come, so there's no questioning me getting these comics, I'll just be doing so with cautious skepticism now that my expectations aren't stratospheric.
Marvel U Punisher or Max Punisher?
by messi
Apr 16th, 2008
01:05:01 PM
because Max Punisher would rip apart Deathstroke somehow and make it so fucking brutal.
Only reason Mary Marvel went bad again was because
by messi
Apr 16th, 2008
01:07:23 PM
Grant Morrison decided to use her in Final Crisis. shame really, Countdown has been pretty awful.
That new Groo mini
by Rufferto
Apr 16th, 2008
01:34:04 PM
sucked ass. I know it's been a while but I feel it's was the blandest Groo story I've ever read to my memory, and I've read them all. It was also the most blatantly preachiest.There have been a ton of political Groo stories (or are they editorials?) about TV, war, the media, conservatives but most of the time it was done in a funny, clever way. There has even been a issue written before 911 about a monarch who blames a disaster caused by Groo on another kingdom to make people forget his unpopularity and rally around him. That's good satire. Stuff like that Cow burping nonsense wasn't funny and seemed beneath them to do so. I don't mind thinking when I read Groo but seriously, if your going to use Groo to continue to preach it just should be your best. This wasn't even close.
Also Countdown
by Rufferto
Apr 16th, 2008
01:44:29 PM
was is and most likely to the end will be shit. It was the stupidest thing I've ever had the displeasure of reading through. It burns me that I wasted money buying the first 15 or so issues thinking it would be as interesting as the previous Crisis stories or hopefully get good at some point. I can't stand Jason Todd. He sucked enough to have the fans kill him off way back when and he sucks even more now. There is no point in his continued existence. He has a different personality every time he shows up and DC doesn't know what to do with him. He was a quick buck after Hush now he's a ridiculous joke. So many stupid plot holes in this garbage. Why doe everyone even know so much about who Jason is anyway? I mean even Jimmy knew he was Robin once. Anyone who doesn't know who Batman is with all this public info must be pretty dim.
The last thing I remember in Countdown
by Rufferto
Apr 16th, 2008
01:53:25 PM
that I can recall is Jason Todd putting his arms around Harley and Holly. What the fuck is that about? I know they are determined to not make him relevant or consistent but you would at least think he'd have some qualms about making nice with Joker's girlfriend. I don't think she would like it either. All this amazon crap was obviously a waste of time for her anyway since the first thing she did when she thought she was home was visit the Joker at Arkham. !!?
22 pages
by PurityOfEssence
Apr 16th, 2008
03:10:52 PM
The way comics are printed dictates the page count. I know it sounds weird, but they have set increments and they don't change them. At least that was what they were saying when I was visiting Darkhorse about a year ago.
Woah woah woah, Rock-Me...
by Thalya
Apr 16th, 2008
03:25:17 PM
Piper's *head spazz* in GA/BC now?

..gah..need to get those spazzes under control; they're getting ridiculous.

BTW, around which issue do you think Countdown may've turned into torture porn? I call #19.
Howard vs. Groo?
by superhero
Apr 16th, 2008
03:30:24 PM
Fuck! Who would win that one? Shit! I love them both! Could they just NOT fight? Like be friends? Please?
Shenjano
by superhero
Apr 16th, 2008
04:18:34 PM
Dragon Head Movie sucks. Especially compared to the Manga. The Manga is fucking awesome.
thanks, buff!
by necgray
Apr 16th, 2008
07:02:49 PM
It was fun to write! The first draft was actually 600 words, but that was obviously 300 too many. It was mostly macho posturing and building up to the punchline that their "fight" was a spelling bee. Not that a normal fight would've been uninteresting. In fact, I would like to have seen how Redmantle's turned out. I do LIKE fighting, I'm just tired of Wolvie's rep for being a bad ass. He only won because Hank tutored him. So in a way, it was more a victory for Beast...
RE: Dialogue in Countdown...
by Err
Apr 16th, 2008
07:36:56 PM
52 got a lot of dialogue right when they poked fun at the corny dialogue. Lex Luthor even commented that he needed to hire people to come up with cool things for Infinity Inc to say. Countdown has been unimpressive to me because they use corny dialogue and treat it as real.
AMBUSH BUG VS. JOKER - MAKE THIS HAPPEN @$$HOLES!
by Err
Apr 16th, 2008
07:37:36 PM
NOW
OBLIGATORY - WOLVERINE IS THE WORST MARVEL CHARACHTER EVER!
by Err
Apr 16th, 2008
07:38:12 PM
Err - you're hurting my ears.
by rock-me Amodeo
Apr 16th, 2008
08:00:45 PM
On 22 Pages
by optimous_douche
Apr 16th, 2008
08:07:35 PM
First, thanks Purity. Instead of calling me a fucktard you gave a knowledgeable answer. Salute.

I need to remember that just because everything I say is laced with sarcasm, my dripping Jersey cynicism doesn't always come through on the keyboard.

I was really trying to use the 22 page thing as a wake up call to publishers.

I can appreciate that standardizing all books on a particular format will save them production costs.

I just think it's a sad societal state when we start looking for the ROI in an art form.

Is there a limit or a standard to the number of pages in a book?

Deathstroke Vs The Punisher?
by SlowBurn
Apr 16th, 2008
08:34:55 PM
Correct me if I am wrong but wouldn't a better comparison be Deathstroke Vs the Taskmaster. I mean they are both mercenaries. The bother have the photographic reflexes thing. Hell they even have similar costumes if you take away Taskmasters cloak and shield. It's just a thought. Cause for my money that's a fight I would want to see. And Taskmaster would put Deathstroke on his ass. That depth perception thing leaves him at a big disadvantage. just my 2 cents.
Back to the Future II rules, are you fucking crazy?
by TallBoy66
Apr 16th, 2008
09:56:12 PM
The real abortion of the BTTF franchise is #3. Part 2 is awesome - alternate universes, future hoverboards, and working with BTTF 1 is great and inventive. Argh, lame.
@$$holes Vs. The Apatow Group
by Buzz Maverik
Apr 16th, 2008
11:14:09 PM
Pink eyed, the @$$holes emerge from their respective rooms in the @$$hole clubhouse. It's early, only about 3 p.m. Bug rolls Sleazy off the top of the bar and begins mixing cocktails.

"They did it again. Ever since everybody saw KNOCKED UP and started pillow farting. Remember the good old days, when everyone just watched HEATHERS and went cow tipping."

"You realize this means war."

"What about Rogen?"

EEEEESSSSSH! I rip apart a styrofoan cup, setting the @$$holes teeth on edge. I take no pity on their hangovers. "You know me,"I say. "I'll find Rogen for ten thousand. And I'll catch him and shave him for twenty."

Judd
by -=Shin=-
Apr 17th, 2008
12:58:51 AM
I really don't understand how he gets work either. The quickest way to torpedo my hopes for a comic is to tell me Judd Winnick is writing it. I've never liked his version of Dick Grayson. He seems bent on making Batman a huge cock - even after the mandate of Infinite Crisis and 52 was to make Batman a bit more even keeled. He basically killed off Connor Hawke for god knows what reason. Also, he had the gall to poach on Jeph Loeb's Hush storyline and say that *was* Jason Todd and not Clayface. Never mind the Judd rule that everyone must have the HIV virus. And I'm fine with addressing social issues in comics - it's a great format for that, but the HIV issue with him is starting to read like a writing crutch to instill drama instead of addressing an actual point. ...And he did strike me as 'that creepy guy' on Real World.
Time to go back to school Mohamed
by optimous_douche
Apr 17th, 2008
05:58:38 AM
And butt-fucking isn't a compound according to the AP style guide, what's your point?

Research before you open your mouth son: http://alexfiles.com/cannot.sh tml

Don't be so stupid to call out someone who makes their living from writing.

Both II and II were abominations. The only good one was I.

Move on!

BTTF
by optimous_douche
Apr 17th, 2008
11:34:11 AM
Each movie had their own merits. One, was an amazing sory and concept. And at the time the special effects weren't too shabby (when it hits 88 miles per hour, you're going to see some serious shit).

II & III were technological marvels, but the heart was gone.

I don't know if it was the five year break between movies or the loss of Crispin Glover, bit something was missing.

In teh first movie you cared about the McFly family it was their story and you ended up becoming emotionally invested in what happened to each charachter.

II & III might as well have been dubbed "Biff Through Time." The whole story became seeing Biff in funny make-up.

Also, the whole addition of the Marty Chicken complex was forced. They needed a plot vehicle and they shoe horned it in.

Look, on some level I appreciate all three films.

I would probably say this is my favorite trilogy of all time and I do sit down once a year to rewatch them in their entirety.

Like my review of Serenity, I didn't hate the second installment of BTTF, but from a story and charachter perspective it was the weakest of all 3 IMHO.

Part III had lots of heart
by Laserhead
Apr 17th, 2008
12:44:07 PM
Really. But I would prefer to talk about how creepy and stalkerish Winnick was on the Real World. "I'm the most sensitive, PC man in the world! I'd cut off my penis if I thought it would help raise AIDs awareness! Pedro is my BEST friend!" Fuck you, Winnick. Puck was wrong, but so were you.
Winnick
by optimous_douche
Apr 17th, 2008
12:50:41 PM
I have to say I didn't hate his stint on Green Arrow.

Was it as good as Smith's run, hell no, but it was far from awful.

As a fan of Titans from back in the day though, for shame sir, for shame.

Smith's run on GREEN ARROW was garbage.
by SleazyG.
Apr 17th, 2008
01:27:43 PM
Pure garbage, top to bottom, beginning to end. Heaven is real, and it's a bunch of hills and trees and sunlight, and that's where Ollie lives? HORSESHIT. The horribly inappropriate treatment of Stanley and his Monster? HORSESHIT. Introducing AIDSy the Sidekick, because if an underaged HIV-infected hooker wants to really make a difference she should do it with sharp, pointy weapons that she could accidentally prick herself with and then bleed all over enemies or teammates? Not to mention the potential for infection any time she's punched or otherwise wounded? HORSESHIT. The whole run was full of lousy, inappropriate concepts that were poorly executed. Like most of Smith's mainstream work, really--the only one I remember kindly is DAREDEVIL, but that SPIDEY/BLACK CAT thing was just effed.
Smith
by optimous_douche
Apr 17th, 2008
01:46:08 PM
I didn't have any pre-knowledge of Green Arrow prior to that run, so perhaps I am looking at things through Green tinted glasses.

AIDSy is funny though. Hehe.

Agreed on Spidey/Black Cat. I wonder if it would have been better though if each issue didn't come out bi-annually.

Nah, it wasn't the schedule, it was the content.
by SleazyG.
Apr 17th, 2008
02:03:39 PM
Smith kept bringing tastelessly inappropriate subject matter in to his mainstream stories. He did it with Black Cat, and he did it with GA. And in the case of GA, it's not just about prior knowledge of Ollie. It's an affront to the entire DCU. He introduced laughably stupid pseudo-religious concepts with heaven, took a previously light-hearted all ages pair of characters and soiled them irretrievably, and he came up with a remarkably stupid concept for a sidekick. Only the last of those three is directly GA-related; the first two were major gaffes in the DCU.

The only reason he got away with it is they wanted Kevin Smith's name on a DC book. They tried to get him to write GA for years, and he said the only way he'd do it was if he could bring Ollie back to life; they shoulda just told him to eff off. Several other GA projects were pitched, both with Ollie and with Connor Hawke, and they were all set aside for literally half a decade just to get Kev to do what he wanted--and do it horribly.

Sleazy
by Laserhead
Apr 17th, 2008
02:51:35 PM
I gotta say I agree with all your points about Smith's run, and I'm glad to hear somebody else saying it. His 'inappropriate subject matter' usually in some way revolves around his own, pretty puerile, sexual and religious issues: rape is everywhere, women are inherently more knowledgable and mature than any man, any problems with a woman's behavior are really problems with a man's perception of her behavior, etc. Actually, his comic book writing kind of brought home to me what a bad writer he is, of movies too. I mean, some truly funny one-liners don't make up for shallow characters that don't behave like human beings.
Millar/Gangs
by steverodgers
Apr 17th, 2008
04:33:00 PM
I was actually thinking about that the other day as well, and it got me thinking if I have ever actually seen a gang? I think I ONLY see them on TV/movies/comics. I’m sure they exist, but I have lived in some shitty parts of Oakland and almost gentrified Brooklyn -but I can’t think of a time where I was like, “oh I have to watch out for that gang.” I’ve for sure seen plenty of small groups of thuggish looking folks who I definitely would go out of my way to avoid, but I can’t say if those groups were gangs or just a bunch of thuggy dudes hanging out and having a smoke
Gangs and Stuff
by SlowBurn
Apr 17th, 2008
06:09:12 PM
I've seen some thuggy guys that could have been in gangs. Hell I have been chased by a few of them. While I did notice the ethnicities of the character Millar used to portray it never really occurred me that the were a "gang." Though they could have been. I certainly don't know Millar intentions. But it will be interesting to see where he takes it. I mean we don't know for sure if the guys from the 2nd issue were even the bad guys. It looks like they are because it was, what 3 guys beating on the 1 guy. So by default it seems like they would be bad. But they never started beating on the "hero" until he jumped in. If it was me I would show in the next issue that may that guy that was getting beatup wasn't all that great to begin with. And maybe there was a good reason he was getting stomped. Preferably a reason that would come back to bite our hero in the butt in a big way. But that's just me. Like any good here he has to learn how to be responsible for his actions some way. Besides correct me if I am wrong but didn't issue #1 open up with him being tied up and beaten by the Russian mob. I guess my point is we probably haven't seen enough of this story to make a judgment one way or the other about Millar views. Well at least in this story anyway...
I will agree
by optimous_douche
Apr 17th, 2008
07:38:54 PM
That nothing else can compare to his Daredevil run, I guess why I liked Green Lantern is for all of the reasons you guys hate it.

Sometimes I like to switch off from reality and be presented with a banal, filthy story.

It's that same part of my brain the responds to ASBAR.

Do I know it's wrong, yeah. Do I like it anyway...well...yeah.

I Didn't Like Smith On Daredevil
by Buzz Maverik
Apr 18th, 2008
12:29:15 AM
For me, that's where Nu Marvel and decompression started, and it wasn't even good decompression like Bendis and Ellis can often (but not always) pull off (maybe if he called himself Smithis). The first issue of the Guardian Devil storyline was the first comic I can ever remember where nothing happened.

Actually, the only comic work of Smith's that I ever liked was his JAY & SILENT BOB series, which was better than both DOGMA and J&SBSB. I'm sure his CLERKS comics were good, too, but I can't say since I didn't read 'em.

Smith is someone whose work I always have high hopes for, but I've been disappointed in since CHASING AMY, which was actually kinda muddled itself. MALL RATS was a real MOVIE, unpretentious fun which makes it smarter than any of what I call his theme movies. Oddly, though, I'm looking forward to ZACH & MIRI and RED STATE.

Or Perhaps We Do Need to Define Gang
by optimous_douche
Apr 18th, 2008
11:04:24 AM
While I will never say that a stereotype is in fact reality, there is a reason that sterotypes develop.

Gangs traditionally come from the same neighborhoods.

Having grown up a stones throw from NY and now living outside of Philly, I will say that neighborhoods are ABSOLUTELY diversified by ethnicity.

It would then make sense that most of the gang members share a similar ethnic background.

Political Correctness Has Obliterated Reality
by optimous_douche
Apr 18th, 2008
11:52:57 AM
Shen brings up a great point about “whitey” guilt.

In an unending effort to be more politically correct as a society we turn a blind eye to reality.

PC is the reason that you can no longer fire an idiot from their job, instead you have to jump through twenty different HR hoops to simply terminate an ineffective employee (at least in corporate environments).

Should we ever cater to stereotypes? No. But on the same token, the reason that most gang members are perceived as ethnic is because that’s the God honest reality.

Should we say that all blacks or Puerto Ricans are gang members? No, because that is racial, narrow minded and untrue. It would be the same as saying all German’s are Nazis. They’re not, but the Nazi party sure as shit had a lot of German’s goose stepping across Europe.

Don’t be a racist, but in your effort to be a friend to all races, intelligence levels or whatever, don’t turn a blind eye to the actual world we live in.

Shenjanno
by steverodgers
Apr 18th, 2008
12:07:58 PM
i think only one poster accused millar of being racist... i can't remember who it was though. Also 3 hours to comic-con!
I'm blaming you, Steverodgers
by steverodgers
Apr 18th, 2008
12:41:56 PM
touche! hour and a half to comic-con!
On the other hand...
by loodabagel
Apr 18th, 2008
03:20:50 PM
I do like the way Ian Chuchill draws Ravager.
Kudos, gang (no pun intended)...
by loodabagel
Apr 18th, 2008
03:33:31 PM
Kudos, gang (no pun intended)...
by loodabagel
Apr 18th, 2008
03:36:42 PM
On having such a well thought and sophisticated discussion about Kick-Ass. I'm glad to see the comics talkback is maintaining it's seal of quality. I showed up a little late this week, but I gotta know-Are there any col comic shops-event in Portland (Oregon) the week after next? Does anyone also know any good Portland area cool-undergroud punk bands/rappers, etc? Thanks for anything.
...
by blackthought
Apr 18th, 2008
11:06:04 PM
honestly...
Millar Is Not A Racist. He's Clueless.
by Buzz Maverik
Apr 18th, 2008
11:41:21 PM
He does watch too many movies and you wanna bet that he has huge hip hop section in his CD collection. Some writers from the UK have a better grasp of American culture (yes,we do have one, such as it is) than Millar who mistakes American POP culture for the real thing.

What's the difference? Damned if I know, but there is one. It's like the Supreme Court definition of pornography. "I know it when I see it."

There's a certain emotional truth, a certain resonance that Millar's work lacks. For a writer who is alternately great and terrible in his use of shock value, Millar's writing lacks a certain realism. Not necessarily a bad thing. He often does great work and I consider myself a fan of his. But, cuhmon, his Ultimates and SHIELD honcho talked more like a pack of comic geeks than anything else and it seemed unintentional to me.

It gets down to Millar's work reading like he thinks he understands America but he doesn't. Oddly, Alan Moore, of all the UK writers, seems the most natural with American characters. To me, anyway. And guys like Morrison and Ennis do brilliant jobs of circumventing the whole issue.

The best thing about it is that it's really a minor flaw of Millar's and often doesn't become an issue.

Personally, the gang thing can go either way in a comic for me. Or a movie. I mean, THE WARRIORS is one of my favorite movies and the filmmakers purposely integrated the gangs even though they knew it was rare, to avoid problems. Oddly, the one all-white gang was The Rogues, who were left to the "tender mercies" of the Grammercy Riffs, the one all black gang, at the end. Our heroes, the Warriors, were integrated. They'd been plagued by both the Riffs and the Rogues throughout the movie. The GR problem was settled with a cool line from Swan, but the movie's biggest flaw was that we all wanted to see Swan, Cochise and the boys get some payback on Luther and his buds.

That's some insightful stuff Buzz...
by loodabagel
Apr 20th, 2008
11:02:06 PM
Too bad the talkback is dead. In other news, I am again reading Teen Titans. How long will it last this time? Only time will tell.
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